| [00:34] <kgoetz> its installed, and has a file (+x) in /etc/cron.daily/00logwatch, but i dont get emails from it. when i run it manually i get mail from the script | |
| [00:34] <kgoetz> s/its intalld/ i have logwatch installed | |
| [00:35] <soren> syslog tells you when cron runs something. Does it mention it? | |
| [00:37] <kgoetz> let me check | |
| [00:40] <kgoetz> holy heck, how has syslog hit 32mb :S | |
| [00:41] <kgoetz> Jan 4 09:17:01 moon CRON[13505]: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info | |
| [00:42] <kgoetz> looks like syslog/cron has been broken since 27th of september | |
| [00:48] <kgoetz> soren: looks like thats the problem :/ i'll try and work out this cron+syslog issue | |
| [03:20] <kgoetz> turns out shadow was misformed. fixed that and cron+other stuff starts working again. | |
| === joerlend_ is now known as XiXaQ | |
| [04:18] <XiXaQ> I want to setup a shared folder on my ubuntu server so that windows clients can connect using only a password. I've been reading and reading, but I don't understand how it's possible. I don't want to duplicate all users usernames and passwords between all windows clients and ubuntu. | |
| [04:18] <XiXaQ> can someone explain this? I've tried setting security = share, but then it isn't password protected at all.. | |
| [04:21] <XiXaQ> I wonder if irc would be as popular if everyone was required to read the irc protocol before they were allowed to run the client.. :) | |
| [04:21] <XiXaQ> it feels like samba is doing something similar to me. | |
| [04:27] <PanzerMKZ> well I setup my samba install | |
| [04:27] <PanzerMKZ> and gave it one user | |
| [04:29] <PanzerMKZ> give it a valid user = username | |
| [04:30] <XiXaQ> I don't want to tie it to usernames. Everybody that knows the password should be able to read and write, just like in windows. Isn't that possible? | |
| [04:31] <PanzerMKZ> I have one username | |
| [04:31] <PanzerMKZ> panzer | |
| [04:31] <PanzerMKZ> so that line is set to valid user = panzer | |
| [04:31] <PanzerMKZ> and there is a password for user panzer | |
| [04:32] <PanzerMKZ> so I go to any of my windows boxen and pop that share and log in using panzer | |
| [04:32] <XiXaQ> ok, so if a friend comes over for tea, brings his laptop and wants to open a file, then he just has to create a new user in his system, log out and back in with that user, then connect to the share? | |
| [04:32] <PanzerMKZ> no | |
| [04:33] <PanzerMKZ> you come over to my pad | |
| [04:33] <PanzerMKZ> for tea | |
| [04:33] <PanzerMKZ> you got a windows box | |
| [04:33] <PanzerMKZ> you log in as you on your box | |
| [04:33] <PanzerMKZ> you go to start>run | |
| [04:34] <PanzerMKZ> type in //companion | |
| [04:34] <PanzerMKZ> companion in this case being my ubuntu file server running samba | |
| [04:34] <PanzerMKZ> up pops in a user/password window | |
| [04:35] <PanzerMKZ> and you put in the user panzer and my super secret password of lace | |
| [04:35] <PanzerMKZ> and bam you have access to all the file shares | |
| [04:35] <XiXaQ> so I'll have to setup one user per share? | |
| [04:36] <PanzerMKZ> is that not what you wanted? | |
| [04:36] <PanzerMKZ> one user | |
| [04:36] <XiXaQ> do you know how people share files in windows xp? | |
| [04:36] <PanzerMKZ> for all your shares? | |
| [04:36] <PanzerMKZ> there is a ten connection limit for xp file shares | |
| [04:38] <XiXaQ> I'd like to have a share with a password, another share with a different password. This means I have to create two different users, then share the resources as those users and give those usernames and passwords to the people who're supposed to access the shares? | |
| [04:38] <PanzerMKZ> but smb users don't have to be system users | |
| [04:38] <XiXaQ> they don't? | |
| [04:38] <PanzerMKZ> no | |
| [04:39] <XiXaQ> oh... | |
| [04:39] <PanzerMKZ> I could have smb user fred that is no where on my system | |
| [04:40] <XiXaQ> then how do I add this user? | |
| [04:40] <PanzerMKZ> first answer is man samba | |
| [04:40] <PanzerMKZ> which is what I am going to do now | |
| [04:40] <XiXaQ> you don't think I've been doing that for weeks? | |
| [04:41] <XiXaQ> everyone has been explaining how to install single-signon setups with directory controllers, and ldap, dhcp and god knows. I only want my damn directory to be available to those who know the password :) | |
| [04:42] <XiXaQ> the samba configuration guide has 47 chapters. | |
| [04:42] <PanzerMKZ> nice | |
| [04:42] <PanzerMKZ> man smbpasswd | |
| [04:42] <XiXaQ> well, actually, that's just the howto :) | |
| [04:42] <PanzerMKZ> it will talk about adding users | |
| [04:42] <XiXaQ> thanks :) | |
| [04:42] <PanzerMKZ> and changing passwords | |
| [04:44] <PanzerMKZ> the -a command adds a user | |
| [04:45] <PanzerMKZ> you need example of my smb.conf file? | |
| [04:45] <XiXaQ> that would be nice. | |
| [04:48] <PanzerMKZ> http://pastebin.com/d6421821c | |
| [04:48] <PanzerMKZ> is for a iso share I have | |
| [04:50] <XiXaQ> that's the kind of share I want to setup. :) | |
| [04:51] <XiXaQ> but panzer is a real user, right? | |
| [04:51] <PanzerMKZ> well on that box yes | |
| [04:51] <XiXaQ> panzer can login using ssh with that password, for instance? | |
| [04:51] <PanzerMKZ> but the passwd for panzer on smb is different then the system | |
| [04:52] <PanzerMKZ> so the answer is no | |
| [04:52] <XiXaQ> how do I do that? | |
| [04:53] <PanzerMKZ> setup the share | |
| [04:53] <PanzerMKZ> and then work your magic with smbpasswd | |
| [04:53] <XiXaQ> oh.. Ok. Normal user doesn't automatically have access to their own shares? You must use smbpasswd first? | |
| [04:53] <PanzerMKZ> to add users and passwords | |
| [04:53] <PanzerMKZ> yea | |
| [04:53] <XiXaQ> aha.. | |
| [04:54] <XiXaQ> does that make sense in anyway? | |
| [04:54] <PanzerMKZ> yea | |
| [04:55] <PanzerMKZ> basicly you are asking if you have a samba server up | |
| [04:55] <XiXaQ> pardon?! | |
| [04:55] <PanzerMKZ> and you add a new user to the system does the system users home dir get shared out automatically | |
| [04:56] <XiXaQ> no. If I make normal user. I then add that users home directory as a share in /etc/samba/smb.conf. That users password will be invalid, because I haven't set a sambapassword for him yet? | |
| [04:56] <PanzerMKZ> yea | |
| [04:58] <XiXaQ> ok.. Is that a requirement, or is it possible to use pam instead? | |
| [04:59] <PanzerMKZ> you can set it up different ways by changing the smb.conf | |
| [04:59] <PanzerMKZ> there should be things you uncomment | |
| [05:01] <XiXaQ> ok, that's fine for my setup. However, if I wanted to let other unix users share their folders at will.. I really don't want to make all admins? | |
| [05:02] <XiXaQ> it seems to me strange that shares should be spesified in the main configuration file? | |
| [05:02] <PanzerMKZ> there is parts for users to add | |
| [05:08] <XiXaQ> By default, \\server\username shares can be connected to by anyone with access to the samba server. Un-comment the following parameter to make sure that only "username" can connect to \\server\username This might need tweaking when using external authentication schemes | |
| [05:08] <XiXaQ> ;valid users = %S | |
| [05:09] <XiXaQ> does this mean that by default, all users can read from and write to other users homes? | |
| [05:17] <XiXaQ> PanzerMKZ, thanks. I think I got it. | |
| [05:17] <XiXaQ> it's the documentation that confused me. help.ubuntu.com's samba documentation seems to explain more about how Active Directory works and what LDAP is than how to setup a share. | |
| [05:18] <XiXaQ> think maybe I'll write a simpler guide when I get this right. | |
| [05:22] <c1|freaky> does anyone know if theres a tool for windows which can knock on port? because i want to secure ssh using knockd | |
| [05:23] <c1|freaky> and is there any good firewall solution for ubuntu server? | |
| [05:23] <c1|freaky> i mean, configuration, standard mechanisms etc.? | |
| [05:30] <c1|freaky> I also need some intrusion detection software ... | |
| [05:38] <ScottK> iptables is built into the kernel. That's your firewall. | |
| [05:39] <c1|freaky> ok | |
| [05:39] <ScottK> Is it just you connecting via SSH? | |
| [05:39] <c1|freaky> no | |
| [05:40] <ScottK> OK. I generally just rate limit SSH connections via iptables, but it doesn't scale well for lots of users. | |
| [05:41] <c1|freaky> i want to secure ssh logins using knockd ... but i dont know if theres any software for windows which can knock on ports | |
| [05:41] <c1|freaky> like knock does | |
| [05:46] * ScottK doesn't use Windows. Sorry. Can't help on that. | |
| [05:56] <c1|freaky> ok thanks | |
| [05:57] <c1|freaky> im waiting for my new server :D | |
| [05:58] <c1|freaky> 6GB DDR2, 2 750GB SATA II HDDs, AMD Athlon 64 X2 DualCore :D | |
| [06:20] <normanm> hi all | |
| [06:22] <normanm> We use ubuntu on some servers here. We need to support php4 because of some old CRM. I saw feisty dropped the php4 support. Any idea if there are some sources where we can get the needed debs ? | |
| [06:26] <ScottK> Run Dapper would be my suggestion. | |
| [06:26] <normanm> ScottK, dapper is really out of date :-/ | |
| [06:26] <ScottK> Yes, but you want to run PHP4. | |
| [06:27] <ScottK> I'm typing this on a Dapper desktop because it basically does what I need. | |
| [06:28] <ScottK> Debian is, I think, also dumping PHP4, so it's a losing battle I think. | |
| [06:28] <normanm> ScottK, Dapper not works on the x4100 servers with the "supported" kernel | |
| [06:28] <normanm> ScottK, well I don't want... I need :-/ | |
| [06:28] <ScottK> Ah. | |
| [06:29] <ScottK> I don't know enough about PHP to have a useful opinion then. | |
| [06:29] <normanm> The company i'm workin for is using a self devolped crm wich only support php4 | |
| [06:29] <normanm> btw.. Is dapper still getting security updates ? | |
| [06:35] <lamont> hrm... do I want to turn on IDN support in bind9, I wonder? | |
| [06:35] <lamont> normanm: only until june of 2011 (for ubuntu-standard portions), or June of 2009 (for desktop stuff) | |
| [06:35] <lamont> :-) | |
| [06:36] <normanm> lamont, hmm thats not bad.. | |
| [06:36] <normanm> So now i need to think about if i want to use dapper drake or i want to use freebsd | |
| [06:36] <normanm> on the webservers | |
| [06:40] <lamont> normanm: or stall until april and put hardy on, which will have server security support until april of 2013 :-) | |
| [06:41] <normanm> lamont, ;-) | |
| [06:41] <lamont> or I suppose you could just dist-upgrade from dapper to hardy once it's out. (That'll be tested/supported) | |
| [06:41] <normanm> lamont, well i don't think hardy will support php4 | |
| [06:42] <lamont> ah, there is that. | |
| [06:42] <normanm> lamont, :-P | |
| [06:42] <lamont> you do know that it stands for "Please Hack Promptly", right? | |
| [06:42] <normanm> I allready upgraded all servers except the webservers to gutsy | |
| [06:43] <normanm> lamont, tell me something new... But what should i do if my boss wants it :-P | |
| [06:43] <lamont> normanm: short term? do it. longer term? resume. | |
| [06:43] <normanm> lamont, yes. | |
| [06:44] <normanm> BTW, do you know if there is something like kernel security level planed for ubuntu ? | |
| [06:44] <lamont> ijiot circumstances require change... :-) | |
| [06:44] <lamont> as in C2 or B1 or such? | |
| [06:44] <lamont> orange-book levels? | |
| [06:44] <lamont> no clue on that one. | |
| [06:44] <lamont> security fixes? already happens | |
| [06:45] <normanm> Something like in freebsd which prevent modules to be loaded. don't allow the the time to be set more then 1 second in the past/future. Don't allow raw access to block devices etc | |
| [06:47] <lamont> ah. one could use selinux to do that, quite possibly could use apparmor (which is there by default in gutsy...) | |
| [06:47] * lamont prefers selinux, wasn't consulted wrt what got turned on in gutsy's kernel | |
| [06:50] <lamont> time to sleep | |
| [08:57] <kraut> moin | |
| [08:57] <_ruben> mornin | |
| === tku is now known as kraut | |
| [15:44] <ScatterBrain> By default the snmp daemon runs as user "snmp". How can I give that user permissions to read the log files in /var/log? | |
| [15:44] <ScatterBrain> I've tried adding it to the "adm"group, but that doesn't seem to work. | |
| [15:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> why do you want them to? | |
| [15:45] <ScatterBrain> I need to run a script that greps the logs via snmp'd "pass" functionality so I can keep stats with Cacti. | |
| [15:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> unsure. night mate | |
| [15:46] <ScatterBrain> at this point, I'm looking to keep track of Postfix and Amavis. | |
| [15:47] <lamont> ScatterBrain: group adm should be sufficient. OTOH, it probably requires restarting the daemon | |
| [15:48] <ScatterBrain> lamont, yeah did that. | |
| [15:48] <ScatterBrain> I'm still getting permission denied trying to read /var/log/mail.log | |
| [15:48] <ScatterBrain> even with 644 permissions. | |
| [15:48] <ScatterBrain> Go figure. | |
| [15:49] <lamont> and what are the perms on /var/log :-) | |
| [15:51] <jetole> hey guys, I need to know how badly I have just fsck'd myself | |
| [15:51] <ScatterBrain> lamont: by default they are 640, with root/adm user/group ownership. | |
| [15:51] <jetole> root didn't look twice before hitting enter and did a rm -f /var/log | |
| [15:51] <ScatterBrain> When I change then 644, the script works. | |
| [15:52] * jetole is currently waiting for the server to reboot | |
| [15:52] <lamont> ScatterBrain: ls -ld /var/log :) | |
| [15:52] <lamont> it's not 640 by default | |
| [15:52] <jetole> hmmm, it looks like most the files recreated themselves upon reboot... I think | |
| [15:53] <lamont> jetole: mkdir /var/log; chmod 755 var/log; chown root:root /var/log | |
| [15:53] <lamont> (or reboot and everything should just do the right thing) | |
| [15:53] <ScatterBrain> lamont: mine was. | |
| [15:53] <lamont> except maybe /var/log/ would wind up 555 instead of 755... | |
| [15:53] <lamont> ScatterBrain: the directory had no execute permissions? | |
| [15:53] <lamont> that would explain why you couldn't open any file under it... | |
| [15:53] <lamont> (since exec is needed to open a file...) | |
| [15:54] <ScatterBrain> oh, the lod directory itself. | |
| [15:54] <lamont> er.. | |
| [15:54] <ScatterBrain> not the file. | |
| [15:54] <ScatterBrain> s/lod/log | |
| [15:54] <lamont> exec permission on a directory is needed to open files in the directory | |
| [15:54] <lamont> ScatterBrain: yes. | |
| [15:54] <jetole> lamont: rm -f /var/log/ | |
| [15:54] <lamont> jetole: that shouldn't do anything, should it? | |
| [15:54] <jetole> doesn't delete the directory or any subdirs | |
| [15:54] <jetole> just all flat files in /var/log | |
| [15:55] <lamont> mkdir x; rm -f x | |
| [15:55] <lamont> rm: cannot remove `x': Is a directory | |
| [15:55] <jetole> right, well I wasn't sure if all logs recreated themselves or not | |
| [15:55] <ScatterBrain> lamont: blue tmp # ls -ld /var/log | |
| [15:55] <ScatterBrain> drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 2048 2008-01-04 10:37 /var/log | |
| [15:55] <lamont> ScatterBrain: which is what it should be,. | |
| [15:55] <jetole> since I know logrotate has options for logs that need to be touched after an old one is moved | |
| [15:55] <ScatterBrain> so If I change the directory so that root/adm owns it will that be OK? | |
| [15:56] <lamont> ScatterBrain: anyone in the world is allowed to open files in that directory, depending on the permissions | |
| [15:56] <lamont> is apparmour bitching about anything? | |
| [15:57] <jetole> I have an apparmor dir in var/log so I am not sure why I would change perms on var/log for a file that has it's own var/log/apparmor | |
| [15:57] <lamont> jetole: if there are any logs that don't rebuild after a restart of the daemon (so that a reboot of the system is sufficient....), then it's a bug in the daemon | |
| [15:57] <jetole> lamont: any known bugs in server common packages that I may need to be aware of? ;) | |
| [15:58] <lamont> apparmor does all kinds of neat funky stuff with permissions totally independent of the filesystem permissions | |
| [15:58] <lamont> jetole: not personally, no | |
| [15:59] <jetole> alright, well thanks for the help | |
| [15:59] <lamont> ScatterBrain: if the file is mode 644 and you can read it but the snmp daemon can't, then it's something outside of FS permissions | |
| [15:59] * lamont finally heads off to get to work for the dasy | |
| [15:59] <ScatterBrain> lamont: like what? | |
| [15:59] <lamont> like apparmor | |
| [15:59] <lamont> or selinux | |
| [15:59] <ScatterBrain> the script works as root and if I set the perm to 644. | |
| [15:59] <ScatterBrain> on a dapper box? | |
| [16:00] <lamont> root skips all kinds of perm checks | |
| [16:00] <lamont> dapper. | |
| [16:00] <lamont> if the daemon can't open it, I | |
| [16:00] <lamont> 'm pretty sure it's FS perms somewhere. | |
| [16:00] <lamont> anyway, gotta run | |
| [16:00] <ScatterBrain> lamont: OK, I'll keep looking. | |
| [16:01] <ScatterBrain> thanks. | |
| === rodneykk is now known as rodpod | |
| === macd_ is now known as macd | |
| [18:19] <sergevn> Does anyone has any experience with denyhosts? | |
| === Gamble6x is now known as gamble|fude | |
| [19:21] <nealmcb> sergevn: what's your question? | |
| === gamble|fude is now known as gamble6x | |
| [22:14] <hangthedj> i just upgraded to hardy, how to i change the shell to say hardy instead of gutsy 7.10 Tribe 3? | |
| [22:22] <delphiuk> can someone help me with a 6.06 upgrade problem? I have an output if you need to see it? | |
| === mindframe- is now known as mindframe | |
| [22:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> delphiuk, what is the problem? | |
| [22:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hangthedj, not sure, try /etc/issue, but be sure you know what your doing before messing with stuff like htat | |
| [22:37] <hangthedj> ok thanks | |
| [22:46] <delphiuk> Kamping_Kaiser: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50774/ | |
| [22:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> delphiuk, hm | |
| [22:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> are you using offical repositories? | |
| [22:54] <delphiuk> Kamping_Kaiser: Oh yes, nothing is "non standard" | |
| [22:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> BTW, try running `export LANG=C` to get rid of those locale/perl errors (makes things easier to read) | |
| [22:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> delphiuk, try `export LANG=C && apt-get -f install` | |
| [22:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> tell me what that outputs | |
| [22:58] <delphiuk> richard@sugar:~$ sudo export LANG=C && apt-get -f install | |
| [22:58] <delphiuk> sudo: export: command not found | |
| [23:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> `export LANG=C && sudo apt-get -f install` | |
| [23:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> export is a shell built in (see help export in the shell if you want to see more) | |
| [23:05] <delphiuk> Kamping_Kaiser: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50778/ | |
| [23:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> try `sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2-utils` (it may remove a bunch of stuff, i'm not sure) | |