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[00:38] <ari_stress> morning all :D
[15:50] <daya> hi channel,
[15:51] <daya> can i find mo for ldm , in ltsp
[19:02] <Mauricio__> Hi... I have trouble with some thin clients that have a new card that requires the e1000 driver from intel... I have already tested the driver and my question is how to compile that driver into the ltsp chroot... the problem that I have rigth now is that when I try to compile the driver, kernel version on the chroot is different from the server (server has 2.6.22-14-server and ltsp chroot has 2.6.22-14-386), so the make utility complaint that the k
[19:02] <Mauricio__> ernel source is not installed (requests 2.6.22-14-server!)
[21:31] <xander> hello peoples , i am new to linux , trying to set up a laptop for my friends daughter who is 12 years old , and they don't want her to be able to view pages like myspace ... i have edubuntu installed and runnin , but having some troubles... am hoping to find someone willing to help me out and walk me through a few basic things on linux :) if anyone can help , please pm me or email ccnhub@gmail.com , thank you very much
[21:35] <johnny> i don't think you'll get personal emails for PM
[21:35] <johnny> just mention your troubles
[21:35] <johnny> or search for them
[21:35] <stgraber> xander: so you have problem blocking access to myspace ?
[21:39] <xander> yes
[21:39] <xander> wlel
[21:40] <xander> well
[21:40] <xander> im trying to install dan'sguardian
[21:40] <xander> but ive only been using linux for a couple hours lol
[21:41] <xander> ive been looking around on help pages and forums , but im so new that even the directions don't always make sense hah
[21:41] <xander> basically i just want something simple for a noob like me to use that will allow me to either block or grant access to webpages and applications
[21:43] <xander> for example , they would like to have her be able to use google talk , but not AIM
[21:43] <johnny> tha'ts impossible
[21:43] <xander> oh
[21:43] <johnny> you can use aim within gmail
[21:43] <johnny> in the web page
[21:44] <xander> oh
[21:44] <johnny> nothing you can block via software on the computer.. windows or linux
[21:44] <johnny> unless you block gmail.com too
[21:44] <xander> hmm ok
[21:44] <xander> well thats good to know ...
[21:44] <johnny> i don't think they have "parental controls"
[21:44] <johnny> in gmail
[21:44] <xander> now , how about restricting access to web pages ?
[21:45] <xander> was i correct in trying dansguardian ?
[21:45] <johnny> i don't know.. i've never wanted to restrict access to web pages :)
[21:45] <johnny> but.. you realize that she'll be able to figure out how to turn it off
[21:45] <johnny> if she comes and looks for help :)
[21:45] <xander> yes
[21:45] <xander> im not worried about that right now
[21:46] <xander> i just need to set it so that when she [or her friends] type in an address , it doesn't come up
[21:46] <johnny> yes you are
[21:46] <johnny> but you're going to have to read more about it on the web i'm guessing
[21:46] <johnny> as far as setting it up
[21:47] <xander> ive also read some examples of parents setting up only the things they want the kids to use , but that seems like alot of work
[21:50] <xander> ok heres one
[21:50] <xander> when i try to search for files , i get an error
[21:51] <stgraber> dansguardian should do what you want, another way is to set those websites to point to 127.0.0.1 (localhost)
[21:51] <stgraber> which will return an error and then not display the page
[21:51] <xander> oh cool
[21:51] <xander> thats sounds simple enough
[21:52] <xander> but where i set that ?
[21:52] <stgraber> just : sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[21:52] <stgraber> then add lines like : 127.0.0.1 www.myspace.com
[21:52] <xander> oh ok
[21:52] <xander> let me try
[21:52] <stgraber> save, close firefox, reopen firefox and try the website
[21:52] <stgraber> just be careful to not remove any lines that were previously there
[21:53] <xander> thereis nothing in there
[21:53] <xander> its blank
[21:53] <johnny> yeah
[21:53] <johnny> it's fine
[21:53] <stgraber> are you sure you opened the right file ?
[21:53] <stgraber> johnny: no it's not, /etc/hosts contains 127.0.0.1 127.0.1.1 and some ipv6 stuff by default
[21:53] <johnny> then it must be the wrong file?
[21:54] <xander> well ... im not sure about anything atm as i have only used this os for a matter of hours lol
[21:54] <stgraber> ok, so let's do that step by step :)
[21:54] <xander> and when i try to save , it says could not save , file not found , if that helps
[21:54] <stgraber> go to Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[21:54] <xander> thanks ,,, sorry
[21:55] <xander> usually im the one typing step by step
[21:55] <xander> hah
[21:55] <stgraber> once in the terminal enter : sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[21:55] <xander> weird to be on this end , thanks in advance
[21:55] <stgraber> it should ask for your password
[21:55] <xander> ok did that
[21:56] <stgraber> and you have an empty text editor ? weird ?
[21:56] <xander> opens a blank document
[21:56] <xander> and if i try to save , it says cannot find the file
[21:56] <stgraber> what does "ls -lh /etc/hosts" returns ?
[21:57] <xander> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 246 2008-01-03 22:49 /etc/hosts
[21:58] <stgraber> ok, so it's 246bytes large ... certainly not empty
[21:58] <stgraber> try : sudo nano /etc/hosts
[21:58] <xander> k
[21:58] <stgraber> maybe you will have more luck opening it in a command line editor :)
[21:58] <xander> ok thats opened a file
[21:58] <xander> 10 lines
[21:59] <stgraber> you should have two lines at the top: one starting with 127.0.0.1 another with 127.0.1.1 right ?
[21:59] <xander> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[21:59] <xander> 192.168.1.9 edubuntu
[22:00] <stgraber> ok, so add for example: 127.0.0.1 www.myspace.com after the edubuntu line
[22:00] <xander> ahh ok
[22:01] <xander> now just have to figure out how to save lol
[22:01] <xander> man
[22:01] <stgraber> ctrl+w
[22:02] <xander> that does search
[22:02] <stgraber> oups :)
[22:02] <stgraber> try ctrl+x :)
[22:02] <xander> heh ok
[22:02] * stgraber is using too much command line tools :)
[22:02] <stgraber> (and is more of a vi addict)
[22:02] <xander> i think that did it let me test
[22:02] <johnny> you should try to get it working with gksudo gedit from the cli
[22:02] <johnny> gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[22:03] <johnny> so you can use a gui text editor
[22:03] <xander> ahh ok
[22:03] <xander> cause that didn't work
[22:04] <stgraber> try the "gksudo gedit /etc/hosts" thing, but I don't see why it would work and the sudo one wouldn't
[22:05] <johnny> or just gksudio gedit and then navigate and open /etc/hosts
[22:05] <xander> well it opens the file
[22:05] <xander> and i can edit it
[22:05] <xander> but its not blocking the page
[22:05] <johnny> firefox caches too much
[22:05] <johnny> clear your cache
[22:06] <xander> oh ok
[22:06] <johnny> you might even have to clear your dns cache
[22:06] <johnny> i don't recall how to do it, but a reboot would fix it :)
[22:06] <xander> ahh ok i restart it then brb
[22:09] <xander> nice!!!
[22:10] <xander> that works !!
[22:10] <xander> wow thats easy
[22:10] <xander> haha
[22:10] <xander> thanks so much
[22:10] <stgraber> np
[22:11] <stgraber> btw, that blocks any kind of access to that URL, not only http
[22:11] <stgraber> so if you can find the name of the various IM server you want to block, you can block them the same way
[22:12] <xander> wow thats handy hah
[22:12] <xander> ok one more for today if you don't mind
[22:13] <xander> when i am in my file browser ,and i go to go>search for files, and put something in i get the following message
[22:14] <xander> the folder contents could not be displayed. the name org.freedesktop.Tracker was not provided by any .service files
[22:15] <stgraber> try installing the "tracker" and "tracker-search-tool" packages, that should fix that
[22:15] <stgraber> tracker is a file indexing engine
[22:15] <xander> ok and i can do that in the synaptic package manager ?
[22:16] <stgraber> yes
[22:16] <xander> nice ok brb :)
[22:16] <stgraber> just search "tracker" in it and you should find the two packages
[22:19] <xander> alright
[22:20] <xander> thats got it , dam this is very helpful , thank you for your time
[22:20] <xander> im sure you will be seeing lots of me in the next few weeks :)
[22:21] <johnny> just make sure to read some docs before asking all the questions tho :)
[22:22] <xander> oh i did
[22:22] <xander> hah i spent hours on the forums , but they don't always address the exact problem ,and this is much more efficient
[22:22] <xander> hah
[22:25] <johnny> also just regular linux resources
[22:25] <johnny> not just ubuntu forums
[22:25] <johnny> and the wiki too
[22:26] <xander> yeah used that as well thanks
[22:27] <xander> searching
[22:27] <xander> around for answers can be fun , but i don't get many days off
[22:27] <xander> so better to go to the source if i can , thanks