| [00:34] <Artimus> Did those new KDE4 packages "fix" KDE4 in Hardy? I lost my hardy virtual machine, so I'll be reinstalling tomorrow. I'm curious if I'll have KDE4 to look forward to. | |
| [00:43] <bardyr> !info linux-image-generic | |
| [00:43] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.24.2.2 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB | |
| [00:44] <bardyr> !info nvidia-glx-new | |
| [00:44] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.24.2-2.8 (hardy), package size 4897 kB, installed size 14844 kB | |
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| [03:04] <derekS> hi. has anyone else come across a problem with compiz crashing? The compiz.real package uses 100% of the cpu for a short time then the wm dies. i am using nvidia-glx-new (if that makes a difference) and everything is vanilla from the hardy repos. | |
| [03:05] <crdlb> derekS: try disabling the animation plugin | |
| [03:05] <derekS> crdlb: hmm, can you help me out with how? | |
| [03:06] <crdlb> do you have ccsm installed? | |
| [03:06] <derekS> crdlb: let me check, i typically don't play with compiz stuff because i don't care about effects | |
| [03:06] <crdlb> !ccsm | |
| [03:06] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion | |
| [03:06] <derekS> simple-ccsm is not installed | |
| [03:07] <crdlb> the package name is 'compizconfig-settings-manager' | |
| [03:08] <derekS> nope, i have a bunch of libconizconfig packages installed (2 of them) but none by that name | |
| [03:08] <crdlb> so install it ... :) | |
| [03:08] <derekS> haha | |
| [03:08] <derekS> ok | |
| [03:08] <derekS> but if its not installed, why would it be crashing? | |
| [03:09] <crdlb> because the animation plugin (which is enabled by default) seems to cause lockups and such | |
| [03:10] <crdlb> only on nvidia afaik | |
| [03:10] <derekS> crdlb: now its making sense, and this just allows me to turn it off :) | |
| [03:10] <crdlb> yeah | |
| [03:10] <crimsun> crdlb: no, it's a known issue and is fixed in hardy. | |
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| [03:11] <derekS> crimsun: i am using hardy.... and just did a full upgrade to make sure i am using latest | |
| [03:11] <derekS> only thing that was kept back was epiphany, iirc | |
| [03:12] <crimsun> derekS: does it match bug 175744? | |
| [03:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 175744 in compiz "Hardy freezes when using compiz" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175744 | |
| [03:13] <derekS> crimsun: checking | |
| [03:13] <crdlb> that doesn't mean there's no another problem with animation :) | |
| [03:13] <crdlb> not* | |
| [03:14] <crimsun> crdlb: certainly not, which is why I'm interested in narrow it down | |
| [03:15] <crimsun> narrowing* | |
| [03:15] <derekS> crimsun: prob not the same bug, my system doesn't lock up... compiz usually just crashes | |
| [03:15] <crdlb> derekS: is there something you're usually doing that causes it? | |
| [03:17] <derekS> crdlb: no, its as soon as i log into gnome, the system becomes slow for like 90 seconds, then poof there goes my wm (and compiz.real dies) | |
| [03:19] <crdlb> hrm | |
| [03:20] <derekS> just disabled animations | |
| [03:20] <derekS> lets see if that helped | |
| [03:20] <crdlb> if that doesn't help, try: compiz.real --replace decoration move resize | |
| [03:20] <derekS> crdlb: it worked :) | |
| [03:20] <derekS> i think | |
| [03:22] <crimsun> make sure you file a bug :-) | |
| [03:22] <crdlb> derekS: disabling animation worked? | |
| [03:22] <derekS> crdlb: yeah | |
| [03:23] <derekS> crimsun: going to do that now | |
| [03:27] <derekS> crimsun: seems its bug 102883 | |
| [03:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 102883 in compiz "[apport] compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV after restarting Gnome" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102883 | |
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| [10:59] <Toma-> has rtl8180 been dropped from hardy? | |
| [10:59] <Toma-> (the module) | |
| [11:45] <Toma-> Would the build log give suggestions as to why certain modules are skipped in the kernel build? | |
| [11:48] <Hobbsee> Toma-: probably | |
| [11:49] <Toma-> thx | |
| [11:50] <Toma-> grr cant find a build log :( | |
| [11:51] <Toma-> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/linux-source-2.6.24/2.6.24-2.4 | |
| [11:51] * Hobbsee suspects some of them have been told not to build | |
| [11:52] <Toma-> ..but im using the built package :/ | |
| [11:56] <e_r_c_e> hello | |
| [11:56] <e_r_c_e> i'm so stupid :) | |
| [11:56] <e_r_c_e> i need to format floppy in 8.04 | |
| [11:56] <e_r_c_e> how to? | |
| [11:57] <Toma-> mkfs.whatever | |
| [11:57] <Toma-> same as every other release of ubuntu | |
| [11:57] <e_r_c_e> mkfs floppy0 | |
| [11:57] <e_r_c_e> or mkfs.floppy0 | |
| [11:58] <Toma-> hmmm should you be running hardy? | |
| [11:59] <e_r_c_e> yes | |
| [11:59] <e_r_c_e> hardy is my comp | |
| [12:00] <Toma-> should you be formatting floppies then? :) | |
| [12:00] <e_r_c_e> moment please | |
| [12:00] <Toma-> 'man mkfs' | |
| [12:00] <Toma-> Hobbsee➜ where can I find a build log for at least 1 of the hardy kernel? | |
| [12:01] <e_r_c_e> MKFS-Build a Linux file system | |
| [12:01] <e_r_c_e> what IF i want FAT 32 | |
| [12:01] <e_r_c_e> ? | |
| [12:01] <nanonyme> should you be using hardy if you don't know how to use format utilities in linux? :) | |
| [12:01] <Toma-> scroll down to see also | |
| [12:01] <Hobbsee> nanonyme: i don't know that either | |
| [12:02] <Hobbsee> but this guy is seeming fairly clueless | |
| [12:02] <e_r_c_e> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50487/ | |
| [12:02] <Hobbsee> Toma-: it's under linux now | |
| [12:02] * nanonyme starts "when is it going to fail" timer about now | |
| [12:03] <Hobbsee> Toma-: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+builds?build_text=linux&build_state=all | |
| [12:03] <Toma-> thanks a bunch! | |
| [12:05] * nanonyme eyerolls at the failed ppc restricted modules build log | |
| [12:05] <nanonyme> "/bin/sh: /usr/bin/gcc-4.1: not found | |
| [12:05] <nanonyme> " o.O | |
| [12:05] <Toma-> lawl | |
| [12:07] <nanonyme> someone should tell ross to fix his build environment... | |
| [12:07] <Hobbsee> has gcc even built then? | |
| [12:07] * nanonyme shrugs | |
| [12:08] <Toma-> well this has been a huge cup of fail for me. | |
| [12:08] <Hobbsee> curse it. | |
| [12:08] <nanonyme> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/2.6.24.2-2.8/+build/478334 build environment should already have been fully built to even attempt that | |
| [12:08] <Hobbsee> nanonyme: that would suggest that gcc died. | |
| [12:09] <Hobbsee> yup | |
| [12:10] <Toma-> rtl8180.ko has been silently taken out :( | |
| [12:10] <Toma-> i suspect the CIA >_> | |
| [12:11] <nanonyme> Hobbsee, hmm, i guess. to me it just looked as if it's trying to use gcc 4.1 when it didn't exist on the computer | |
| [12:11] <Hobbsee> er, gcc-4.1 is not part of build-essentials anymore, i expect | |
| [12:12] <nanonyme> what is, 4.2? | |
| [12:12] <Hobbsee> yes | |
| [12:12] <nanonyme> right | |
| [12:12] <nanonyme> so just a slight version-mismatch probably then | |
| [12:13] <Hobbsee> means the kernel team screwed up, it appaers | |
| [12:13] <nanonyme> they've probably been notified already, right? | |
| [12:14] <Hobbsee> oh, those l-r-m are old anyway | |
| [12:15] <nanonyme> so yes | |
| [12:15] <Hobbsee> erm, at least, should be. | |
| [12:15] <Toma-> So... is there anyway to find out where this module has gone? and when? | |
| [12:53] <DOLLY> wann kommt die ubuntu 8.04 beta raus? | |
| [12:53] <hit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule | |
| [12:54] <DOLLY> danke | |
| [17:00] <Arjun> hey every one | |
| [17:01] <Arjun> MMMM | |
| [17:01] <Arjun> ok well Ive just installed ubuntu for the first time and it has picked up my ethernet card | |
| [17:02] <Arjun> it however doesnt wanna ping my router and can not b pinged from other pcs | |
| [17:02] <Arjun> I can ping myself though | |
| [17:02] <Arjun> anyhelp please kinda new to the whole linux thung | |
| [17:03] <Arjun> really dont wanna go back to the evilness of satans os | |
| [17:03] <Arjun> anyone thewre | |
| [17:03] <Arjun> there ?? | |
| [17:05] <Arjun> oops wrong channel | |
| [17:05] <Arjun> bye | |
| [17:05] <Arjun> #ubuntu | |
| [17:05] <Arjun> argh | |
| [17:35] <i00_000i> how to stop daemons from starting up automatically during booting | |
| [17:37] <pvandewyngaerde> edit/remove the startup scripts ? | |
| [17:39] <i00_000i> but wher r they...in fedora one can control the services from /sbin/services but like that in ubuntu | |
| [17:39] <sn0> i00_000i try system > administration > services | |
| [17:40] <i00_000i> sn0: entire list is not ther ...i installed the server edition ...plz tell me how to stop hal daemon | |
| [17:40] <i00_000i> sn0: one can start and stop hal daemon from /sbin/services in fedora but itz not available in ubuntu | |
| [17:42] <sn0> i00_000i ok well working from the server you can manually start / stop the services from init.d | |
| [17:42] <i00_000i> sn0: but hal daemon in not in /etc/init.d | |
| [17:43] <i00_000i> sn0: i looked for httpd also itz also not ther | |
| [17:43] <sn0> i00_000i im not sure this is a ubuntu development version question, but fedora works differenty to ubuntu, so if it was httpd in fedora, this is called apache or apache2 in ubuntu | |
| [17:43] <sn0> for eg sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart | |
| [17:43] <Pici> i00_000i: Are you using Hardy/8.04? | |
| [17:44] <sn0> hal should be likewise, /etc/init.d/hal but im just checking on my vm image | |
| [17:45] <i00_000i> Pici: not 7.o4 | |
| [17:45] <Pici> i00_000i: This channel is only for 8.04/Hardy support. | |
| [17:46] <sn0> i00_000i you can ask in #ubuntu , or we can talk about it in there :) | |
| [17:46] <i00_000i> sn0: i have been using fedora for a long time jst tried ubuntu as fedora is not recognising my laptops keyboard.. | |
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| [18:25] <bardyr> !info nvidia-glx-new | |
| [18:25] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.24.2-2.8 (hardy), package size 4897 kB, installed size 14844 kB | |
| [18:26] <bardyr> anyone got and idea when the new nvidia driver is in or when the kernel is updated | |
| [18:26] <bardyr> its a bit behind the ubuntu kernel git tree | |
| [18:27] <aslaen> hello, I am running the latest ubuntu hardy x86_64 alpha.. I installed elisa using apt-get install elisa, and it installed fine. When I try to launch it it never opens a UI. Here is the output from terminal.. http://nopaste.com/p/aM7UkgiP2 | |
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| [20:07] <gouchi> Hi there | |
| [20:07] <gouchi> is it plan to add support for OpenChrome card in Hardy | |
| [20:08] <gouchi> I mean include the X.org driver directly in the CD | |
| [20:08] <gouchi> didn't find any spec | |
| [20:13] <Spec> gouchi: 'sup | |
| [20:14] <gouchi> Spec : ? | |
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| [20:15] <Spec> <gouchi> didn't find any spec | |
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| [20:21] <aslaen> has anyone here successfully run elisa using the amd64 debs in hardy universe repo? | |
| [20:21] <Spec> gouchi: what's OpenChrome? | |
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| [21:00] <jtholmes> can anyone tell me how i find out who in the Ubuntu org is responsible for gdm | |
| [21:00] <awen_> jtholmes: look at the bug contacts for the package on launchpad ? | |
| [21:06] <jtholmes> awen_, thanks will do | |
| [22:09] <tcpdumpgod> Okay, im going to hang out in here. | |
| [22:09] <tcpdumpgod> Too many noobs in #ubuntu | |
| [22:32] <Oli``> How stable is Hardy? | |
| [22:34] <bardyr> Oli``, as stable as you can except from a ubuntu alpha2 | |
| [22:35] <Oli``> I can't remember when I jumped onto Gutsy but I think it was about the same sort of time... I'm just getting bored of the monotony of a stable system ^_^ | |
| [22:35] <bardyr> heh | |
| [22:36] <bardyr> im been on hardy but it was just too unstable for me | |
| [22:36] <bardyr> waiting for the new nvida driver to be upped and im on it again | |
| [22:37] <awen_> Oli``: Kubuntu seems incredible stable for a alpha (at least with kde 3.5.*) | |