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[12:26] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: you here? |
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[12:26] <Hobbsee> what's elkbuntu's email address? |
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[12:28] <atoponce> melissa AT meldraweb DOT com, per NickServ |
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[12:28] <mc44> elkbuntu@ubuntu would work too Im sure :) |
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[12:28] <Hobbsee> oh, found it |
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[12:28] <Hobbsee> quite possibly, yeah |
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[12:36] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: please check your email - particularly, the email from dionne |
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[12:36] <Hobbsee> (my forward to you) |
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[12:36] <Hobbsee> seeing as we want to get that booked ASAP |
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[04:18] <elkbuntu> oh bugger.. missed her |
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[06:36] <Mez> Can I ban him for that ? |
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[06:37] <tonyyarusso> I'm thinking - probably |
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[06:38] <Mez> for threating to btflood :D |
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[06:38] <tonyyarusso> done |
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[06:38] <Amaranth> *sigh* |
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[06:38] <Amaranth> some people... |
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[06:40] <Fujitsu> Who's this? |
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[06:40] <Mez> WinXpPro> Biggie Mistake |
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[06:40] <Mez> <WinXpPro> Your channel will now Halt as i bring 2000+ bots to it |
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[06:40] <Mez> <WinXpPro> ad then u will know what a Flood is! |
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[06:40] <Mez> nalioth, ping |
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[06:41] <Mez> or SportChick seeing as you're not /away |
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[06:41] <SportChick> hi Mez |
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[06:41] <Mez> SportChick, what's freenode policy on the above (threatening a botbet attack) |
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[06:42] <SportChick> hrm |
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[06:42] <SportChick> Mez: where is that from? |
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[06:42] <tonyyarusso> SportChick: #ubuntu |
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[06:42] <Mez> that was in PM (he also threated the same thing in #ubuntu before tonyyarusso kicked him |
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[06:42] <SportChick> so far I see nothing |
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[06:43] <Mez> me either, but cheers |
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[06:45] <Madpilot> 2000 bot / actual IQ of threatening party = zero bots, I suspect |
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[06:46] <Mez> Madpilot, sorry, error, division by zero |
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[06:46] <Madpilot> exactly |
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[06:47] <Mez> Damned trolls |
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[07:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wow, sounds like fun. o.O |
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[07:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Anyone feel like trading for a quiet channel? |
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[07:34] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, eduard said: ubotu - ho far is till the mars? |
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[11:01] <nalioth> the massive life-changing bot swarm never materialized? |
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[11:02] <Hobbsee> hrm? |
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[11:09] <nalioth> someone was threatening to bring 2000+ bots in to #ubuntu earlier |
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[11:09] <Hobbsee> oh fun |
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[01:31] <tsmithe> Seveas, ping |
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[01:32] <tsmithe> Seveas, will Ubugtu ever be coming back to #ubuntuforums ? |
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[01:34] <nalioth> oh no, Ubugtu has flown the coop |
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[02:13] <gnomefreak> nalioth: a guy i know from #motu sent email for 20+ channel (one of the staffers told him to do that) is that the right process? |
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[02:15] <nalioth> gnomefreak: i don't understand |
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[02:28] <Hobbsee> nalioth: to get rid of hte 20 channel limit |
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[02:28] <nalioth> Hobbsee: gnomefreak wrote ambiguously (does he want 20 #ubuntu channels?) |
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[02:29] <gnomefreak> its early for me today sorry :( |
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[02:29] <Hobbsee> nalioth: i realise that, yeah. he wants his 20 channel limit remove |
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[02:29] <Hobbsee> d |
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[02:30] <nalioth> Hobbsee: i got that now, but gnomefreaks original sentence puzzled me |
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[02:30] <Hobbsee> ahh |
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[02:31] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: I usually have that effect |
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[02:31] <Tm_T> just by my appearance (: |
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[02:31] <gnomefreak> :) |
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[02:33] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: isnt beryl in universe? didnt know main devels needed to push it |
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[02:34] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: they need to push stuff thru binary NEW |
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[02:34] <Hobbsee> it is. |
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[02:34] <gnomefreak> ah ok |
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[02:36] <Seveas> beryl-in-main |
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[02:36] <Seveas> and the world collapses |
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[02:37] <effie_jayx> Seveas, is it fixed now? |
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[02:37] <Hobbsee> Seveas: world is laready collapsing - beryl and compiz are merging. |
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[02:37] <Seveas> effie_jayx, what? |
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[02:37] <Seveas> Hobbsee, I KNOW! |
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[02:37] <Hobbsee> :P |
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[02:37] <Seveas> that scared the bejeezus out of me |
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[02:37] <effie_jayx> Seveas, beryl... the package seem to be broken |
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[02:38] <Seveas> nocoment |
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[02:38] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: we know. |
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[02:38] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: someone uploaded the wrong version or something. enough said. |
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[02:39] <effie_jayx> thanks guys ... I just wanted to know if it worked now :D |
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[02:39] <Hobbsee> new packages are waiting in binary NEW |
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[02:40] <gnomefreak> merging is bad imho |
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[02:40] <Seveas> Hobbsee, prod $random_archive_admin ;) |
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[02:40] <Hobbsee> Seveas: done. |
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[02:40] <Hobbsee> :) |
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[02:40] <Seveas> Hobbsee, prod $random_archive_admin again |
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[02:40] <Seveas> :p |
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[02:40] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Isn't it more than beryl-plugins hasn't been NEWed at all yet? |
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[02:41] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: it's got sources in the archive.. |
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[02:41] <Fujitsu> Binary NEWed, then. |
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[02:41] <Fujitsu> Not an incorrect version. |
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[02:41] <Hobbsee> oh, yeah |
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[02:41] <Hobbsee> aquamarine was the wrong version |
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[02:41] <Hobbsee> didnt build. |
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[02:41] <Fujitsu> Ah. |
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[03:14] <nalioth> we're having a bot problem, if y'all havent noticed |
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[03:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Are there 2000 of them? |
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[03:16] <nalioth> if you're not being bothered, that's good |
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[03:19] <elkbuntu> ooh, the turks again |
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[03:19] <LjL> yeah the turks |
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[03:19] <LjL> i've been bothered by two of them in PM |
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[03:19] <LjL> but they weren't in #ubuntu (or had just left, didn't check, i banned anyway) |
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[03:20] <elkbuntu> i'm yet to get one |
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[03:20] <ompaul> LjL, let us know when you do pm |
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[03:20] <LjL> ompaul: hm? you mean when i *get* pm? |
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[03:21] <LjL> anyway i got only those two right on join, then nothing more |
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[03:21] <LjL> or you mean when i ban based on PM? |
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[03:21] <ompaul> stop, I will explain :) |
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[03:22] <nalioth> LjL: we want to know then the buggers /msg you |
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[03:22] <ompaul> when you get a pm, please announce the name |
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[03:22] <LjL> okays |
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[03:22] <ompaul> if you want to do it with a !sta f f here and then say bots name |
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[03:22] <LjL> 85.108.121.198 and 61.94.175.168 were the ones i got, but i suppose they'd be long done |
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[03:22] <ompaul> it would be useful |
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[03:22] <ompaul> they will be done |
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[03:23] <ompaul> already but - the eariler we get them the better |
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[03:23] <LjL> i'll join some clones |
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[03:23] <nalioth> LjL: not necessary |
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[03:24] <LjL> nalioth: it's not necessary, it just catches more of them |
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[03:24] <effie_jayx> hehe |
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[03:25] <effie_jayx> ;) |
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[05:06] <LjL> GodTodd: please fix your quit message |
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[05:06] <LjL> it's kind of... inappropriate |
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[05:08] <GodTodd> sorry |
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[05:08] <GodTodd> fixed |
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[05:09] <LjL> unbanned |
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[05:09] <LjL> make sure it stays fixed :) |
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[05:25] <ubotu> Announcement from my owner (Seveas): ubotu will be offline for maintenance |
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[05:30] <kbrooks> hello |
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[05:30] <kbrooks> Anyone here? ping. |
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[05:31] <kbrooks> anyone there? okay... |
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[05:31] <kbrooks> i think that ubuntu_noob is spamming something in #ubuntu |
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[05:32] <kbrooks> erm, never mind |
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[05:32] <kbrooks> sorry all |
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[05:32] <kbrooks> bye |
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[05:45] <elkbuntu> so... iirc... we have ubot3 because ubotu is struggling with load... now ubugtu's load is going to join it? hoo boy |
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[05:47] <apokryphos> there will be two bots; they'll be duplicated |
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[05:47] <elkbuntu> aha cool |
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[05:48] <elkbuntu> but saves managing 3 or 4.. i getcha |
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[06:03] <GodTodd> not sour grapes, but merely a question...how is a nick of "HornyHouseWife" family friendly? |
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[06:04] <Tm_T> it's not IMO |
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[06:04] <atoponce> it should be encouraged to be changed |
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[06:05] <Tm_T> GodTodd: and is "godtodd" not any provocative then? |
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[06:05] <Tm_T> ;) |
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[06:06] <GodTodd> i was merely trying to discern where the line was |
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[06:06] <Tm_T> I know, I was joking |
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[06:06] <LjL> it's a difficult line to draw indeed |
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[06:06] <GodTodd> i agree |
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[06:06] <atoponce> i think HornyHouseWife is past that line |
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[06:07] <Tm_T> agreed |
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[06:17] <Seveas> godtodd is nowhere near that line... |
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[06:45] <apokryphos> RIP Ubugtu |
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[06:47] <PriceChild> permanent? :O |
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[06:48] <Seveas> yes |
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[06:48] <Seveas> merged with ubotu |
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[06:48] <mc44> as long as @t is safe :) |
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[06:48] <Seveas> @t |
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[06:48] <ubotu> Immortaliy can be achieved by wearing Mr. T's necklaces, but he is the only creature strong enough to carry this load |
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[06:48] <mc44> woo! |
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[06:48] <Seveas> %t |
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[06:48] <ubotu> Mr. T is Tony Robinson's motivation. |
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[06:49] <Seveas> (both @ and % will work for ubotu) |
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[06:49] <PriceChild> how rare |
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[06:49] <Seveas> not really :) |
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[06:49] <PriceChild> Seveas, Is the load lessened with only one bot? |
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[06:50] <Seveas> yes |
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[06:50] <Seveas> @quit brb - final steps of maintenance |
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[06:50] <PriceChild> wooo :) |
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[06:51] <PriceChild> suppose everything only has to be parsed once this way :) |
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[07:01] <Seveas> apokryphos, which channels is ubot3 in? |
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[07:02] <apokryphos> #easyubuntu, #ubuntu-us, +#ubuntuforums-beginners, ##apple, #ubuntu-au, #ubuntu-il, #ubuntu-midwest, #ubuntu-ohio, #ubuntu-ops, #ubuntu-programming, +#ubuntu-ni, #ubuntu-chicago, #ubuntu-ca, #ubuntu-uk, #ubuntu-gr, #ubuntuforums-hardware |
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[07:03] <apokryphos> have to shoot off for a bit though, see you |
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[07:53] <darx> i was here with yesterday with a request to get my ban on #ubuntu lifted |
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[07:54] <darx> is Seveas here atm? |
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[07:54] <Seveas> no |
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[07:54] <darx> Seveas: hi there |
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[07:54] <darx> I got banned coz i foolishly pasted a bunch of code.. |
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[07:55] <darx> it was like a few months ago and i was a noob and still is |
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[07:55] <darx> so please forgive me and accept my sicere apologies |
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[07:55] <apokryphos> I really doubt you were banned for only pasting |
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[07:55] <darx> apolryphos: yes.. what else could a noob do |
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[07:55] <darx> as far as i know thats all that i think i did |
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[07:56] <apokryphos> !tab |
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[07:56] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. |
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[07:56] <apokryphos> darx: they could do a lot of other things. |
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[07:56] <apokryphos> hm, is the bantracker up again? |
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[07:56] <darx> apokryphos: i don't follow you.. |
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[07:57] <darx> ?:-( |
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[07:59] <darx> i was possibly known as rabidphage then |
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[07:59] <darx> i don't know for sure |
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[07:59] <PriceChild> darx, give us a few moments please |
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[08:00] <apokryphos> 2007-02-15T13:19:20 <Rothbuntu> oh lawd ive been tricked |
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[08:00] <apokryphos> 2007-02-15T13:19:26 <Rothbuntu> VISTA SAVE ME |
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[08:00] <apokryphos> that and a few other things. You were trolling, not pasting. |
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[08:00] <apokryphos> Lying to us is not a very nice way to go about things... |
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[08:00] <darx> apokryphos: are you talking to me? |
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[08:02] <apokryphos> ah, turns out t hat wasn't you; just another charming user at the same time |
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[08:04] <apokryphos> darx: the ban will be lifted for now. |
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[08:04] <apokryphos> it's very possible that the ban on you was a mix up, but we can't be sure. |
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[08:04] <darx> apokryphos: well there you have it.. |
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[08:05] <apokryphos> darx: you can join #ubuntu directly now. Sorry about the hassle. |
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[08:05] <darx> i'm pretty sure i won't get banned unless i'm in a religious channel |
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[08:05] <darx> :) |
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[08:05] <apokryphos> =) |
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[08:06] <darx> thank you guys... best of luck with your endeavours.. |
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[08:07] <PriceChild> Hasn't joined #ubuntu yet... |
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[08:08] <atoponce> keep an eye on his ip. i'm skeptical |
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[08:09] <PriceChild> He's from Wolverhampton.... who isn't :P |
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[08:16] <NotAmaranth> darx is the one from last night, i think |
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[08:17] <NotAmaranth> he really did just paste a bunch of shit into the channel instead of using a pastebin |
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[08:17] <PriceChild> he wasn't in the bantracker that I could see... |
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[08:17] <PriceChild> under hostname, nick or alt nick |
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[08:19] <NotAmaranth> he was yesterday |
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[08:19] <NotAmaranth> maybe he spelled the alt nick wrong but a similar one was given yesterday and it was just a large paste |
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[08:19] <Tm_T> heh |
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[08:19] <NotAmaranth> there was a guy that got autobanned for a CTCP VERSION too |
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[08:19] <apokryphos> well he couldn't have had the same hostname |
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[08:20] <atoponce> NotAmaranth: that happened to me in #ubuntu-loco |
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[08:20] <apokryphos> there was only one hostname ban that would've prevented him from getting in |
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[08:20] <atoponce> s/$/teams/ |
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[08:20] <NotAmaranth> @rainbow carebearstare |
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[08:20] <NotAmaranth> aww |
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[08:22] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: ping |
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[08:30] <PriceChild> emet has been directed to -read-topic |
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[08:30] <PriceChild> he worked out he could rename himself _emet* to bypass it |
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[08:30] <PriceChild> I'm tempted to kick and banforward *emet* to -read-topic so he fixes it properly? |
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[08:30] <PriceChild> or *!*@*unafilliated/emet of course... |
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[08:30] <Tm_T> go for it |
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[08:31] <nalioth> why aren't we banning host masks to #ubuntu-read-topic ? |
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[08:31] <PriceChild> I don't know :) |
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[08:32] <PriceChild> nalioth, seen as you're here too, you're ok with me doing this? |
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[08:33] <PriceChild> Not that I don't trust you Tm_T :) |
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[08:33] <Tm_T> PriceChild: why not? |
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[08:33] <nalioth> PriceChild: it's ban evading, after all |
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[08:33] <Tm_T> PriceChild: you trust those hu-mans instead?! |
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[08:34] <PriceChild> bah i did a remove instead of kick... |
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[08:34] <PriceChild> uu no he found it :) |
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[08:35] <Tm_T> hmm, this emet is in #ubuntu+1 too it seems :) |
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[08:36] <PriceChild> grrr and he's asking the same question :( |
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[08:36] <nalioth> Tm_T: we don't worry so much about #ubuntu+1. it doesnt have almost 1200 people in it |
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[08:37] <Tm_T> nalioth: I know, just noticed, no other means in my saying |
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[08:38] <emet> Hello |
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[08:38] <PriceChild> Hi emet |
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[08:38] <PriceChild> Ready for a test? |
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[08:39] <emet> hack me please |
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[08:39] <emet> yes |
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[08:39] <PriceChild> Please join #emet |
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[08:42] <PriceChild> emet, you may now rejoin #ubuntu :) |
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[08:42] <emet> thank you |
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[08:53] <LjL> nalioth, we aren't banning hostmask (or at least i'm not, but i think i was the one starting the not-by-hostmask thing) because *in theory* those people shouldn't attempt to evade their bans, since we're just telling them about a router problem |
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[08:53] <LjL> so banning by nick is more effective than banning by a [possibly dynamic] IP address |
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[08:53] <LjL> also, some hostnames are way too long for a +b line to work when you add !#ubuntu-read-topic to it |
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[08:54] <LjL> not to mention that it's far easier to do it by nickname on my client :P |
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[08:54] <nalioth> :/ |
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[08:55] <LjL> there's some people who are *still* in read-topic after *weeks* they've been forwarded, which probably mean they care about neither their routers nor #ubuntu |
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[08:55] <LjL> the bans by nickname are quite effective in those cases |
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[09:21] <Arwen> um, it's been about five months since Seveas banned me, anyone here considering lightening up? |
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[09:23] <PriceChild> Try 3 months |
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[09:23] <Arwen> ... |
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[09:23] <PriceChild> And you'll have to wait until Sev.eas has time for you. |
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[09:24] <Arwen> yeah screw that, you know, I was under the impression that Ubuntu meant "humanity to others" |
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[09:24] <Tm_T> oh my... |
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[09:24] <PriceChild> oh no :( |
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[09:25] <nalioth> the pot calling the kettle black |
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[09:25] <mc44> mmm time for some tea |
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[09:34] <Seveas> PriceChild, ever seen Arwen/anon32 in action? |
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[09:35] <PriceChild> Seveas, i saw him on the bantracker :) |
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[09:35] <Seveas> heh ;) |
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[09:35] <Seveas> gotta love the bantracker |
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[09:36] <Seveas> speaking of which, let's test if it works |
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[09:36] <PriceChild> my ban on emet worked earlier :) |
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[09:36] <Tm_T> Seveas: he's been pretty ok in #kubuntu lately though |
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[09:37] <PriceChild> Tm_T, his exit from here says otherwise :P |
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[09:37] <Seveas> PriceChild, I'm not at all surprised he gets frustrated after you refered him to me |
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[09:37] <Seveas> he knows he stands 0.000000001% chance |
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[09:38] <PriceChild> Haha well I don't think anyone else here wants to take this upon themselves :P |
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[09:39] <Tm_T> PriceChild: yes, well, as said, IN #kubuntu |
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[09:40] <PriceChild> Hehe what do I know :) |
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[09:42] <Seveas> no comment :p |
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[09:42] <PriceChild> haha |
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[09:43] <LjL> btw this emet was sent to read-topic before, i'm sure |
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[09:43] <PriceChild> LjL, yes |
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[09:43] <PriceChild> LjL, same fiasco of evading if you look, hob,bsee banned then me.z rebanned :) |
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[09:45] <LjL> [Sun Feb 18 2007] [23:25:31] Mode LjL sets mode: +b emet!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic |
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[09:45] <LjL> tsk |
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[09:48] <emet> I use multiple routers |
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[09:48] <emet> I travel alot :o |
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[09:49] <LjL> it's ok, but why evade bans instead of just connecting to 8001 |
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[09:49] <emet> I'm still banned if I go to 8001 |
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[09:50] <emet> I have to be tested and alot of times no one is here to do it :o |
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[09:51] <LjL> emet: in that case, i suppose i can understand. but make sure you actually do *ask* in here, if you just join you'll mostly be ignored (my IRC client, for example, doesn't even *show* there's been a join in a channel unless i'm in that channel's window) |
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[09:51] <Seveas> LjL, if you just use port 8001 *all the time* you won't be banned |
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[09:51] <emet> xchat? |
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[09:51] <Seveas> err, emet* |
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[09:52] <LjL> Seveas: yeah he said he travels... if it's different computers, i suppose... |
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[09:52] <LjL> emet: no, konversation |
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[09:52] <Seveas> LjL, so? :) |
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[09:52] <Seveas> port 8001 is just as easy as 6667 |
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[09:52] <LjL> Seveas: err, except it's not default, while 6667 generally is, so if you forget :) |
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[09:53] <LjL> i mean, *i* don't type /server irc.freenode.net 6667, i just type /server irc.freenode.net :P |
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[11:30] <Amaranth> !-ops |
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[11:30] <ubotu> ops aliases: op, medic, calltheops, call the ops - added by Seveas on 2006-07-29 12:54:12 |
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[11:30] <Amaranth> !ops |
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[11:30] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth |
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[11:30] <Amaranth> err |
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[11:30] <Seveas> Amaranth, ? |
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[11:30] <PriceChild> hmmm |
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[11:30] <Amaranth> it's broken in #ubuntuforums |
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[11:30] <Seveas> !ops-#ubuntuforums |
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[11:30] <ubotu> Help PriceChild, zenrox, byen, frodon, KiwiNZ, zenwhen, jdong, KingBahamut, nocturn, ubuntugeek, ubuntu_demon, darkmatter_, Brunellus, BuffaloSoldier, panickedthumb, jenda, rav_tux, Vorian, MikeB-, k_mandla or bapoumba! |
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[11:30] <PriceChild> ops-#ubuntuforums also works in pm |
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[11:30] <PriceChild> ohhh |
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[11:30] <PriceChild> qball is ignored! |
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[11:31] <jenda> huh |
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[11:31] <Seveas> @admin ignore list |
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[11:31] <Seveas> @login |
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[11:31] <Seveas> @admin ignore list |
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[11:31] <ubotu> 'ubot3!n=ubot3@unaffiliated/nalioth/bot/ubot3', '*!*@ubuntu/bot/*', and 'qball*!*@*' |
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[11:31] <PriceChild> there we go :) |
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[11:32] <Seveas> he must have annoyed me a bit I guess |
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[11:32] <jenda> Seveas: it's ok. |
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[11:32] <jenda> ;) |
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[11:33] <jenda> I'd leave it that way for a while, till it sinks in. |
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[11:36] <tsmithe> i remember when i was ignored |
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[11:37] <tsmithe> that was very annoying |
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[11:39] <Seveas> %admin ignore add tsmithe*!*@* |
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[11:39] <ubotu> OK |
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[11:39] <tsmithe> oh ghey! |
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[11:39] <mc44> @pity tsmithe |
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[11:39] <mc44> see, its ignoring you so much it wont even pity you |
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[11:40] <tsmithe> haha |
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[11:41] <PriceChild> lol |
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[11:51] <jenda> ROFL :) |
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[12:19] <mc44> theres no bot in #ubuntu :s |
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[12:19] <PriceChild> mc44, sev.eas is doing something... notice the quit message :) |
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[12:20] <mc44> ah |
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[12:20] <mc44> not ubotwo around? |
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[12:20] <mc44> *no |
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[12:20] <Seveas> no need to |
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[12:20] <Seveas> ubotu is on his way back |
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[12:20] <Seveas> if I expect long downtime, I'd say so |
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[12:21] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ |
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[12:21] <Seveas> ubotwo, shaddap :p |
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