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| [03:39] <firecrotch> Okay, I have an install that's pretty much the default with Apache, PHP, mySQL... slight problem though... How do I get apache to handle perl scripts properly? | |
| [03:40] <firecrotch> Instead of the script executing, it wants me to download it | |
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| [04:28] <GNu_Joe> Where do the ubuntu-server devlopers hang out? | |
| [04:29] <lionel> here and on ubuntu-devel | |
| [04:31] <GNu_Joe> not here, no one ever talks about ubuntu-server | |
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| [04:34] <hyrax_> heh. I just tried out ubuntu-server. To me it is a good base install for setting up a desktop where the defaults are not so "ubuntusized" | |
| [04:35] <hyrax_> As a server install though, I saw X and alsa stuff being included in the base install. But man did not get installed. | |
| [04:36] <hyrax_> Not sure why I'd want X and alsa on the type of servers I run. I guess I could trim back the base install some after the fact. | |
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| [04:45] <hyrax_> that being said, my install of ubuntu-server was the first unbuntu flavor install that did not annoy me in any way. | |
| [04:46] <hyrax_> and seems to be a solid basis for a GNU/Linux insall | |
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| [05:18] <ivoks> X isn't a part of ubuntu-server | |
| [05:19] <ivoks> oh, he left :/ | |
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| [05:39] <dballester> hi to all | |
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| [05:41] <dballester> where can i get info about canonical movements to put ubuntu in the enterprise world? Any roadmap or similar ? Thanks and regards | |
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| [06:06] <dballester> I'm trying to install ubuntu-server arch amd64/em64T into one Dell Poweredge 860 ( http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_860?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd ) by now is the second time that install cd ( 2 different burns ) claims that libiw28 packages is corrupt | |
| [06:06] <dballester> md5sum for the iso image is correct | |
| [06:06] <dballester> any tip ? | |
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| [08:07] <yomm> Is it possible to completely boot off a server ,and run the OS 100% native on the client ? So in other words a diskless ubuntu-box ...Can anyone point me in the right direction ? | |
| [08:09] <GNu_Joe> yomm, edubuntu has that function ( via the LTSP.org ) | |
| [08:09] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : I have a small spare box , and i Like to store several OS Images on | |
| [08:10] <yomm> the server , so I can select which one to boot .. Is that possible with Edubuntu/LTSP ? | |
| [08:10] <GNu_Joe> humm not sure | |
| [08:10] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : I was under the impression that ltsp was still also not 100% native on the client | |
| [08:10] <ivoks> boot client from server? | |
| [08:11] <ivoks> wihtout a disk? | |
| [08:11] <yomm> ivoks ; yes , but 100% native | |
| [08:11] <yomm> if that is possible :) | |
| [08:11] <GNu_Joe> ya LTSP runs on the server the client is just a terminal | |
| [08:11] <ivoks> 100% native? | |
| [08:12] <ivoks> it's normal linux | |
| [08:12] <GNu_Joe> He wants a BIS | |
| [08:12] <GNu_Joe> Boot Install Server | |
| [08:12] <yomm> ivoks : native in the sense that all aps & processes run on the client not the server | |
| [08:12] <ivoks> yomm: of course | |
| [08:12] <ivoks> yomm: you need dhcp server, tftpd-hpa and ethernet card | |
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| [08:12] <ivoks> i have cluster set up like that | |
| [08:13] <ivoks> all clients (60 of them) boot from network | |
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| [08:13] <yomm> ivoks: so tftpd-pha is the package to look at ? | |
| [08:13] <ivoks> they have no disk, but all apps run on client | |
| [08:13] <yomm> ivoks , yes thats what I wwant | |
| [08:13] <ivoks> yomm: yes, it's trivial FTP which serves kernel to clients | |
| [08:14] <ivoks> once client grabs kernel, mounts / over NFS | |
| [08:14] <yomm> ivoks : does it support all OS ? | |
| [08:14] <ivoks> and that's all... | |
| [08:14] <ivoks> yomm: all OS? | |
| [08:15] <yomm> ivoks :would I be able to serve any OS that would run on the client itself ? | |
| [08:15] <GNu_Joe> yomm, http://www.schnozzle.org/~coldwell/diskless/ | |
| [08:15] <ivoks> yomm: if by any you mean redhat, ubuntu, debian, suse, then yes | |
| [08:15] <ivoks> if you want windows, you should talk to guys from redmond | |
| [08:16] <yomm> ivoks : and if by any I mean windows , OpenStep ,& Darwin ? | |
| [08:16] <ivoks> (i highly doubt that's dooable) | |
| [08:17] <yomm> lol , the concept seems simple , just serve a disk to a client .. but apparently not | |
| [08:17] <ivoks> it's not that simple | |
| [08:18] <yomm> :/ | |
| [08:18] <ivoks> your client has to get an IP, start portmap and nfs client | |
| [08:18] <ivoks> mount network share as / | |
| [08:18] <ivoks> pivot root from ram to mounted system | |
| [08:18] <ivoks> and then continue to boot | |
| [08:18] <yomm> ivoks : I see ! | |
| [08:19] <ivoks> that's called PXE boot | |
| [08:19] <ivoks> great way to install ubuntu on lots of computers :) | |
| [08:19] <yomm> ivoks : I heard of that | |
| [08:19] <ivoks> or to manage cluster and not worry about updates on clients | |
| [08:20] <yomm> ivoks , is tftpd also a pxe variant ? | |
| [08:20] <ivoks> yes | |
| [08:20] <yomm> Gnu_Joe : thanks for the link | |
| [08:20] <GNu_Joe> np | |
| [08:22] <yomm> ivoks : you too , thanks a lot for the information , I'll go fire up my vmware server & start experimenting with tftpd ,I'll probably bug you guys a lil' more later on :) | |
| [08:22] <ivoks> np; i'll give you my bank account :) | |
| [08:22] <yomm> lol | |
| [08:22] <yomm> i'll give you my money | |
| [08:23] <yomm> <------ as if he has any ! | |
| [08:23] <yomm> ;) | |
| [08:31] <yomm> ivoks : would this procedure approach what you described : http://reilly.homeip.net/folding/linux.html | |
| [08:34] <ivoks> there is more than one way to do it | |
| [08:35] <ivoks> you should use ubuntu kernel | |
| [08:35] <ivoks> http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install | |
| [08:35] <ivoks> this is about installint ubuntu over network | |
| [08:36] <yomm> ok thx | |
| [08:38] <yomm> lol I'm having soo much fun with Linux :) | |
| [08:41] <ivoks> heh | |
| [08:41] <ivoks> it's not point and click | |
| [08:41] <ivoks> but you can learn a lot | |
| [08:52] <yomm> the clicky path is not necessarily the better :) | |
| [08:52] <ivoks> i agree | |
| [08:52] <yomm> though we all like some eye-candy once in a while :) | |
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| [11:45] <AMSmith42> When I apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I get a 403 Forbidden. Where should I start? | |
| [11:46] <xenalise> a 403? O_o | |
| [11:46] <AMSmith42> Yes. | |
| [11:46] <AMSmith42> Just a sec. I'll get one of the messages... | |
| [11:46] <mralphab1t> have you been bad? | |
| [11:46] <AMSmith42> All the time, yes. | |
| [11:46] <mralphab1t> heh | |
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| [11:48] <AMSmith42> "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main [etc] 403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] " | |
| [11:49] <AMSmith42> The "etc" is the package. It has it for all of them. | |
| [11:49] <xenalise> Hmm | |
| [11:50] <AMSmith42> Indeed. | |
| [11:51] <mralphabet> have you changed anything in /etc/apt/sources.list? | |
| [11:51] <AMSmith42> I just installed ubuntu-server and this was the first thing I tried to do. I also got an error during install regarding not being able to fetch some packages. | |
| [11:51] <AMSmith42> And that I should "investigate this soon" or some-such. | |
| [11:52] <AMSmith42> I have not edited sources.list | |
| [11:52] <mralphabet> did you do a sudo apt-get update? or sudo apt-get upgrade | |
| [11:52] <mralphabet> or is this from aptitude | |
| [11:52] <AMSmith42> This is an apt-get and update does the same thing. | |
| [11:53] <AMSmith42> I don't have any trouble from Kubuntu desktop doing the same sort of thing. | |
| [11:54] <AMSmith42> I can opent the console and sudo apt-get all day long. | |
| [11:54] <mralphabet> and I don't have any trouble from an ubuntu server doing the same thing . . . I just did it no more then 5 mins ago | |
| [11:54] <mralphabet> that's an odd one | |
| [11:54] <AMSmith42> Huh. | |
| [11:54] <AMSmith42> Oh, well. | |
| [11:54] <AMSmith42> For another day, I suppose. | |
| [11:54] <AMSmith42> Thanks for your help. | |
| [11:55] <AMSmith42> Have a good day. | |
| [11:55] <mralphabet> sorry we couldn't be more help | |
| [11:58] <xenalise> Oh one thing.... is your sources.list okay? | |
| [11:58] <xenalise> Maybe (I doubt it, but better safe then sorry) something could be wrong there? | |