| [19:12] <kurisu> hi guys is it possible to use compiz with 11.10 & gnome 3 | |
| [19:12] <kurisu> .... partly blind and need the colour filters that compiz provides | |
| [19:18] <joanie> kurisu: In theory you can use it in "fallback mode." But not gnome-shell. | |
| [19:21] <kurisu> hmmm | |
| [19:21] <kurisu> so I have to use unity if I want to use 11.10 and compiz | |
| [19:22] <joanie> or fallback mode in gnome 3 | |
| [19:23] <joanie> slowly but surely they are re-adding the missing functionality (at least with respect to color filters, etc.) into gnome-shell. I'm photophobic so I need the reverse contrast and feel your pain. | |
| [19:24] <kurisu> apt-get install gnome-session-fallback??? | |
| [19:24] <kurisu> already did that but cannot get compiz working | |
| [19:24] <joanie> kurisu: no :) | |
| [19:24] <kurisu> oh | |
| [19:24] <joanie> it's a system setting | |
| [19:24] * joanie looks | |
| [19:24] <kurisu> oh right | |
| [19:25] <kurisu> thanks | |
| [19:25] <joanie> it's under System Info | |
| [19:25] <joanie> so gnome-control-center (or that 'name' menu in the right) | |
| [19:26] <kurisu> I basically used reverse contrast filters for everything | |
| [19:26] <joanie> system settings if you use the menu route | |
| [19:26] <kurisu> ok in there | |
| [19:26] <joanie> then under system info it's under graphics | |
| [19:26] <joanie> log out, log back in, and compiz should work | |
| [19:26] <joanie> (be launchable) | |
| [19:27] <kurisu> just states "Experience: Fallback" | |
| [19:27] <kurisu> no options | |
| [19:27] <AlanBell> kurisu: so what is wrong with unity? is it that compiz doesn't affect it? | |
| [19:27] <kurisu> I hate unity | |
| [19:27] <kurisu> ... basically | |
| [19:27] <kurisu> I want gnome... with compiz | |
| [19:27] <AlanBell> which bit do you hate? | |
| [19:27] <kurisu> ... (need compiz to be able to see _ | |
| [19:28] <kurisu> everything | |
| [19:28] <kurisu> its just not a very good desktop in my opinion | |
| [19:29] <joanie> kurisu: yes, experience is fallback | |
| [19:29] <joanie> and then log out | |
| [19:29] <joanie> log back in | |
| [19:29] <joanie> then launch compiz, ccsm, etc. | |
| [19:30] <joanie> if you are not familiar with compiz-launching, I think it's compiz --replace but I cannot test on this system at the moment | |
| [19:30] <kurisu> ok i'll try thanks | |
| [19:32] <kurisu> hmm that didn't go so well | |
| [19:33] <kurisu> just got loads of errors... looked like compiz had 'taken over' but none of the kb shortcuts worked and everything was unuseable | |
| [19:35] <AlanBell> you might need to configure some more of the compiz plugins | |
| [19:35] <kurisu> hmmm I just loaded my old compiz config | |
| [19:35] <kurisu> just checked the errors: (unity-window-decorator:5315): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", | |
| [19:36] <kurisu> does that mean unity is still being used? | |
| [19:36] <AlanBell> I think it means that the plugins are horribly messed up if you are not using unity | |
| [19:36] <kurisu> oh | |
| [19:37] <AlanBell> unity is a compiz plugin, and a load of others are turned off as conflicts | |
| [19:37] <AlanBell> you might need to turn off the unity plugin | |
| [19:38] <kurisu> It's already off | |
| [19:38] <joanie> kurisu: look for the gnome keyboard/compatibility plugin in ccsm | |
| [19:38] <joanie> that gives you your shortcuts I believe | |
| [19:40] <kurisu> the kb command plugin?? | |
| [19:41] <kurisu> seem to have nothing set | |
| [19:42] <joanie> kurisu: I'm being summmoned for dinner. But on a machine at home I got this all working.... I can try to look later if you cannot sort it out. | |
| === joanie is now known as joanie_afk | |
| [19:46] <kurisu> ok thanks | |
| [21:41] <TheMuso> It would have been nice to know why he doesn't like Unity. | |
| [21:41] <TheMuso> Other than he doesn't think it a very good desktop. | |
| [21:44] <AlanBell> it would | |
| [21:45] <AlanBell> most people who don't like unity just don't like it, without specifics | |
| [21:46] * AlanBell doesn't like the alt-tab, application switcher so I use a different window switcher | |
| [21:46] <AlanBell> the global menu I am not a fan of, but it is OK | |
| [21:46] <AlanBell> window buttons on the left are fine, really don't care | |
| [21:47] * TheMuso nods. | |
| [21:47] <AlanBell> the launcher is fine on the left, but I set it to never hide, popping in and out was annoying | |
| [21:48] <AlanBell> the applications lens is fundamentally badly designed, it is rubbish at showing me the applications I have and puts more effort into showing me applications from the software centre that I don't have, so I built a new lens that groups them by category like the menu used to | |
| [21:48] <TheMuso> To each their own. | |
| [21:48] <TheMuso> Cool. | |
| [21:49] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/appmenulens.png | |
| [21:53] <TheMuso> Nice. | |
| === joanie_afk is now known as joanie | |