| [01:19] <hggdh> jtaylor: to the package | |
| [01:20] * hggdh goes AFK again | |
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| [14:00] <iceroot> for packages from multiverse "sponsors" are responsable for fixes/reviews?? | |
| [14:00] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/851725 | |
| [14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851725 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) "flashplugin-downloader is suggesting msttcorefonts but the package is called ttf-mscorefonts-installer (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | |
| [14:03] <iceroot> and because of that i guess they want a debdiff instead of my normal patch | |
| [14:03] <iceroot> ah there is a patch-pilot on devel | |
| [14:14] <iceroot> what to do when i THINK a bug is an upstream-bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/887442 | |
| [14:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 887442 in evolution (Ubuntu) "evolution is using the wrong color to mark missspelled words. yellow instead of red (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | |
| [14:15] <brendand> iceroot - what reason do you have to think it's *not* an upstream bug? | |
| [14:15] <iceroot> brendand: because maybe ubuntu patched something | |
| [14:16] <hggdh> iceroot: for the evo bug: open upstream, and chat with the evo developers on #evolution on irc.gimp.net | |
| [14:16] <iceroot> hggdh: thank you, i will do so | |
| [14:16] <hggdh> iceroot: you can always check, looking at the bzr branch of the package | |
| [14:17] <brendand> iceroot - 95% chance that unless you can think of a reason why it might be an ubuntu specific problem then it is in fact upstream | |
| [14:17] <iceroot> hggdh: brendand u just was not sure what is the correct way to report such bugs because its affecting ubuntu and maybe vanilla-evolution | |
| [14:18] <iceroot> s/u/i/ | |
| [14:20] <brendand> of course a great way to make sure if to have e.g. debian on a vm and install the vanilla packages there to check. | |
| [14:21] <iceroot> brendand: but maybe debian patched something too :) | |
| [14:21] <hggdh> iceroot: you will usually need to look at the source package. There are (basically) two types of "Ubuntu" bugs: packaging issues, and patching issues | |
| [14:22] <hggdh> for patching, just look at the ./debian/patches directory of the source package | |
| [14:23] <iceroot> hggdh: not always easy for a normal user to see what has been patched, even when looking at the patch-file | |
| [14:23] <iceroot> hggdh: i will create a upstream-bug, link the launchpad-bug against it and will see what is happening then | |
| [14:24] <seb128> it's a duplicate of bug #829351 | |
| [14:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 829351 in evolution (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Misspelled words are highlighted in yellow instead of red (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 19)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829351 | |
| [14:24] <hggdh> iceroot: well, I did not suggest it would be easy ;-). But, then, a so-called "normal user" would not even know of upstreams :-) | |
| [14:25] <hggdh> seb128: thank you, dear sir | |
| [14:34] <iceroot> hggdh: ok its upstream and there is already a patch. http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=d4571114e8b8949922213ac23825075880e59231 so what are the next steps? | |
| [14:36] <brendand> iceroot - link it upstream and the LP bug will get updated as the upstream one progresses | |
| [14:36] <iceroot> brendand: done | |
| [14:38] <iceroot> thanks for the help | |
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| [15:21] <iceroot> what is the correct tag if something is fixed upstream? | |
| [15:43] <hggdh> iceroot: no chances on our bug -- if you linked the LP bug to upstream, Launchpad will automatically update the status of the upstream bug | |
| [15:47] <iceroot> hggdh: ok | |
| [16:03] <RedSingularity> mvo: available? | |
| [16:07] <RedSingularity> mvo: when you get a chance, have a look at bug 878719. Not sure what the culprit is. Even a clean install of the update-manager and its config files didnt help the issue. | |
| [16:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878719 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update manager comes to a contineous "processing" status (with the rotating cursor pointer) when the "Install updates" button is pressed (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878719 | |
| [16:41] <mvo> RedSingularity: ohhh, so the bug in comment #4 is a bug in u-m that happend during the porting. should only affect people who do not have aptdaemon installed | |
| [17:13] <iceroot> what is happening to bugs which are only affecting a EOL-version of ubuntu? are they closed as "invalid"? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxde-common/+bug/309983 | |
| [17:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 309983 in lxde-common (Ubuntu) "icon at LXDE panel not appearing fine (affects: 2) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | |
| [17:13] <bdmurray> no they should be tested in the latest release of Ubuntu if the package is still available | |
| [17:14] <iceroot> bdmurray: firefox-3.0 is no longer available and the bug does not affect higher version of lubuntu and firefox | |
| [17:14] <bdmurray> then won't fix sounds like the correct status | |
| [17:15] <iceroot> bdmurray: ok | |
| [17:15] <iceroot> bdmurray: seems i can not change the state to "wont fix" | |
| [17:15] <bdmurray> if you can not set that status, add a comment saying why it should be won't fix and let me know and I'll set the right status | |
| [17:16] <iceroot> bdmurray: ok | |
| [17:18] <iceroot> bdmurray: done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxde-common/+bug/309983 | |
| [17:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 309983 in lxde-common (Ubuntu) "icon at LXDE panel not appearing fine (affects: 2) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | |
| [17:19] <bdmurray> iceroot: more information about what supported ubuntu version you tested this with would be helpful for people in the future | |
| [17:19] <bdmurray> iceroot: rather than having to try and think about what releases were supported in 2011-11 ... | |
| [17:20] <iceroot> bdmurray: done | |
| [17:21] <bdmurray> iceroot: wow, thanks for testing with all of those releases! I've set the task to Won't Fix. | |
| [17:21] <iceroot> bdmurray: yes, i made some vms in the last month for better support on creating bugs (especially to see what versions are affected from bugs i created) | |
| [17:22] <bdmurray> "bugs I created"? | |
| [17:23] <iceroot> bdmurray: opened :) | |
| [17:23] <bdmurray> got it | |
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| [17:26] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/851725 is the patch from me the correct way of fixing this issue? do i have to put someone on cc on that bug? for universe i know i have to use debdiff and ubuntu-sponsors. what about multiverse? | |
| [17:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851725 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) "flashplugin-downloader is suggesting msttcorefonts but the package is called ttf-mscorefonts-installer (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | |
| [17:27] <bdmurray> iceroot: the bug bot that commented on that bug has put it in the right queue | |
| [17:28] <iceroot> bdmurray: ok i was just wondering because its 2 month old (i know its not an important issue) | |
| [17:29] <iceroot> so i was not sure about "ubuntu-sponsors" "debdiff" and "multiverse" | |
| [17:33] <bdmurray> iceroot: having a patch instead of a debdiff creates slightly more work for a developer to upload the package so if it were a debdiff it'd go to a different queue and may get fixed faster | |
| [17:34] <iceroot> bdmurray: ah i though a debdiff would be more work because a patch can placed in debian/patches and works on every new version and a debdiff is only working against the latest source-package | |
| [17:38] <bdmurray> iceroot: because its a change to the control file it wouldn't go into debian/patches | |
| [17:38] <bdmurray> iceroot: and this does not qualify for an SRU so it would only be fixed in the development release (precise) | |
| [17:39] <iceroot> bdmurray: why should it be a SRU? | |
| [17:40] <iceroot> if i understand SRU correctly its bringing new versions of a package in an existing release (like a major update) | |
| [17:40] <bdmurray> iceroot: I was saying it shouldn't be released in an update for a stable release of Ubuntu | |
| [18:42] <hggdh> iceroot: no, new versions in stable releases is generically known as a backport | |
| [18:43] <hggdh> SRUs are usually much more contained, and maintain the same version | |
| [18:52] <roadmr> hehe so as long as we're talking SRUs, are string changes SRUable? I have an updated string in trunk and would like that change to make it into 11.10, will it be accepted? | |
| [19:04] <hggdh> if it is important enough, yes | |
| [19:04] <hggdh> if it is just a cosmetic fix, no new and important information being conveyed, chances are it will be refused | |
| [19:05] <roadmr> hggdh: we refer to "sound preferences" when it should be "sound settings" | |
| [19:06] <hggdh> roadmr: it might be enough, since we would then be directing the user to an incorrect place | |
| [19:06] <hggdh> worth to bite the bullet, and try | |
| [19:07] <roadmr> hggdh: ok, sounds reasonable, I'll try that then, thanks :) | |
| [19:07] <ersi> It's all in the motivation | |
| [19:08] <roadmr> ersi: it's just to fix confusing strings (two of them) - I guess it'll be up to the SRU reviewer to decide whether it's worthwhile | |
| [19:09] <ersi> It's still all in the motivation :-) | |
| [21:37] <bkerensa> Hi yofel..... apparently Gstreamer's phonon backend is broken | |
| [21:37] <bkerensa> should I report this or do we have a open bug ? | |
| [21:38] <Fusionite> Hai | |
| [21:38] <bkerensa> hi | |
| [21:49] <yofel> bkerensa: I don't know of one offhand - phonon-backend-gstreamer works fine for me | |
| [21:49] <bkerensa> yofel: Well one of the devs from #tomahawk said you were aware that phonon-backend-gstreamer is bugging | |
| [21:49] * bkerensa cant get it to work with Tomahawk but the VLC phonon works fine | |
| [21:50] <yofel> let's move there actually | |
| [21:50] <bkerensa> ok will do | |