Transcripts_Notes/01-Transcripts/patrick_0918.txt

Tom: A zip file was posted and unzipped to econcurrent.com/devine/files
Patrick: OK, basically you need to look over the documents that I just posted up--you need to get copies of those.
This is for your CoLB to basically go in to your SoS office; this would go along the same lines for anybody that has naturalization documents,
that they would have to process them through the appropriate channels, whether it is through the federal level, whatever it was,
you have to see who all signed on to that naturalization document, OK? But this is basically the format that basically will go along with,
like your SS account, the same process but different players: for the CoLB, you have to process the CoLB document, OK?
The chief trustee is going to be the SoS, that is the administration processing officer, and that CoLB is a collateral trust certificate.
Your certificate of title to your vehicle would go the same process; your certificate of title to the house, same process as the CoLB.
The administration processing officer is the SoS. The trustee who is the warrant issuing officer is the AG, as the IG (inspector general)
to issue the warrant for settlement, and then you have the treasurer as the warrant processing treasurer--CoLB trustee.
OK, that is for your CoLB but the same for vehicle, property certificates of title because these certificates are collateral trust certificates;
they have collateral that has been entrusted to the state of corporation, and you have a right to basically terminate these certificates
and liquidate them; you use the SF30, the SF1414, and I will get into more into the SF1414 in a little bit; the SF1416 and the SF1418,
and basically on those documents you would put for full liquidation. I also put up a closure check template, and you would print that out
on your CoLB or just print it out on a separate piece of paper, however you want to do it; but you need to send a certified copy of your CoLB in
with this package into that SoS, now the SoS also holds another title; you will not find a Secretary of Transportation at the state level;
but yet, in title 46, it addresses the secretary of transportation; well the SoS controls all driver's license(s) in the state.
That driver's license is not required to drive on the roads; it is a transmitting or a transportation number--routing number, bank routing number;
that is what that DL number is; it is a bank routing number or transportation number to transfer funds from your sureties;
so that is what the iowa trust transportation number is, the number that I have on there is my DL number, and then the trust cert. acct. number
is my CoLB registration number. Now this will hold true also with the social security account, that you have 2 other transportation
or bank routing numbers, possibly; one for international commerce, and that is the passport number; you don't need a passport for international travel;
you can have your bible records; many people used the bible out there as their documentation long before this commercial banking system
ever got set up; so the passport, this commercial passport; that bank--that number, nine digit number that is on the passport,
that is a bank routing or an international transportation fund--transportation number; and you can use that passport overseas,
and basically take it into the american consulate and draw money using the passport and your ss account; for all checks you need a bank routing
number or a transportation number and an account number; it is that simple. The third one is basically if you have got an estate EIN,
now that is an internal revenue, a national internal revenue transportation or bank routing number, and then the account number,
you could use your SS account or your CoLB account. But primarily when you are going to be doing the state items, you should either have
a state DL or a state ID (card). That they would be under the same bank routing or transportation routing number.
The Secretary of Transportation has identified in title 46, where they turned around and made our surety a merchant marine, 
and held all of his assets under the shipping act, the maritime shipping act. Now to stand in admiralty, basically you have your baptismal certificate.
You were initially born into the republic and you were recorded at the county records into the republic.
On your 1-year anniversary, that means 9 months out of the hopper and 3 months out of the hopper; when that 1 full year of age came about,
from date of conception until 1 year later, then you were entitled to your royal inheritance because you are a prince on the land,
as the word america stands for. They transferred--OK? And this had to be done while you were in the republic--OK?
So they did not place you into a commercial citizenship in any way, fact, or form. OK? You the living are in the republic.
You have always been in the republic, but your fictional surety is in the commercial state of. But to draw from the treasury,
per article 4 section 1 of the constitution, you had to be standing in the republic; and you could basically by your guardian's authorization,
your inheritance was therefore transferred out of the treasury, out of the republic treasury, over to an account in your name.
But it was further transferred because only a living person can transfer the funds after they are brought out of the treasury;
the state can borrow money from the treasury, but they cannot transfer the funds over to the corporations after they borrowed it.
They have to use it strictly for state functions. This whole process was out here to benefit the corporations. Not to benefit the state.
Not to benefit the people. All for the corporations' benefit. They were the ones that got the major benefit and usage out of this transfer of funds.
We have been denied it because we did not know how to properly process it. I did not see; I tried this several different ways out here.
I thought that it all had to go through the Treasury; NO. It is at the state level, and that is what when you basically go through
and research all of this: the constitution and everything else; I have listened to too damn many people that have been totally misguided;
reading one or two statutes around 1933 and basically thinking that that was the whole process; no. There is a hell of a lot more to it.
That is why I put the shipping act up there; to show you--basically it talks about the secretary of transportation.
Why would the secretary of transportation need to be involved? Because you are transferring funds. That is why they list him there.
But then when you find out, yeah you have got a department of transportation at the state, there is a director but no secretary of transportation
at the state level, because the secretary of state is the acting secretary of transportation, and he has the ultimate control over those
transportation or bank routing numbers, the DL number or the ID number which should be the same.
You process and you can do a closeout check or you can do a partial check and modify this document that I have out here as a partial withdraw,
if you do that then you would have to fill in the value that you are partially withdrawing using the 1415 form or the 1416 form
against your payment bond. If you had to settle a bill, you could do the payment and have the check made out to like the state hospital system,
and have it drawn from the performance bond using the 1418 form. But you always have to have a contract modification form, the SF30,
to go along with that. So I have got basically the three trustees over this process for the CoLB or any other state-issued certificates.
Now you take a look at the SS card. It is a mini-certificate. It has a border around it, just like any other certificate would have.
Put aside all that garbage about the damn roman symbols and everything else trying to deceive you--it is nothing but a certificate;
a social security certificate; a collateral trust certificate; basically when you turned 18, so much collateral was then transferred
from your CoLB because basically it was able to be transferred, because it is yours; you are the owner; you are the republic owner,
and basically by your signature you authorized the transfer into the payment bond, under the social security collateral trust certificate.
Now, to process the SS claims, OK? You go to your local office; they are the administration processing office.
Then you have the inspector general's office, who is the warrant-issuing office, and that is the SS Inspector General.
From there, the warrant will be issued to your regional SS officer or office, which is the regional treasurer for the SS Administration.
Other than that, the letter format would be along the same lines. You could use either your DL as the bank routing number,
your passport number, or if you have already established an estate EIN number, you can use your estate EIN over that dead mortmain SS account.
For the people that have a DD214, there is normally a local VA administrator here at the county, or at the state--somewhere within the state.
You also have an inspector general; a Veteran's Administration Inspector General, and then you have the Veterans'/SS Regional Office,
which should be pretty much at the same location as the SS Regional Office, because both payments coming from the SS and from the VA
are able to be deposited into a Direct Express debit card. That debit card is not strictly for the Social Security, and almost everybody's
DD214 has been attached to your SS account, but it needs to go through a couple different administration processors and IG
to basically issue the warrant for the DD214 payment. All licenses, they are not--I found this out--they are not collateral,
there is no collateral funds with them. But your certificate of marriage, that is a collateral trust--you transferred so much collateral
from your CoLB contract into that marriage collateral trust certificate, so the marriage license has to be claimed through the SoS
that issued that marriage certificate. I will not be posting any templates up for the SF30 or the 1414;
on the 1414, your surety, I would list his transfer or his bank routing number; his transportation number, his licensing number,
behind his name, and that you are the owner of that surety and of that bank routing number or transportation number.
In this process, you do not need, from what I can see, the SF28 form. That is strictly for the corporations,
because when you read that form, you are not the surety, and basically you are not going to sign a damn document.
Nobody in their right mind would put their signature to that document, as far as I can see.
Everything out here: you need to read over these documents before you say anything more, OK?
You need to settle these and process these into the damn secretary of state, and the Attorney General's office. OK? And using the SF forms.
You either contact the prosecuting attorney, when you submit these in... you have got to get it into the hands...
and that prosecuting is nothing more than a representative for the attorney general of the state.
The courts normally are not going to process this for you, because nowhere in this letter that I have do I address the courts.
The only place that I address the court was that basically in the initial processing, they acknowledge you, and therefore allowed you to be
recorded into the republic in the birthing records at that county. Other than that, these processors out here, these courts,
are just administrative courts--banking courts. You do not need them! You need to basically get your shit together and be able to understand
what that DL is all about; get rid of it! You are in the republic, you do not need a DL, but get a state ID number or ID,
and then you still have the routing number, or the transportation number, so that you can transfer your funds while you still have
your CoLB or your cert. of title to the house to transfer the property taxes from the collateral trust certificate... in the process!
You can take this check, this closure check that I had, and modify that appropriately. I was so damn close on this years ago,
but I did not have the right bank routing or transportation number for the accounts that we were trying to process,
and then I was sending them into the wrong place. We were trying to go to the Secretary of Treasury or Inspector General of the IRS...
Any place but the right place! Now that you look back and you start looking at some of these other documents that I recently posted up there,
you can see how it all ties together. Or at least I can; I am hoping that you people can basically read some of this and understand
what I am saying here. You are going to have to find out your address for your SoS, AG, state treasurer or comptroller, whichever the case may be.
Then you are going to have to find your local SS office. If you have an agent there that you have been dealing with, put them down.
Get the SS IG's address, fax number--I have posted that in the past, because I used him, and when you use him appropriately,
shit happens right now because he immediately issues the warrant, and that is what he did for me almost a year and a half ago.
And then sitting and seeing where the Treasurer is located, where the funds come out of, and that is basically in the SSA out of the Regional Office.
And almost every one of those regional offices is also located right next to a damn Federal Reserve Bank.
Like my regional VA and SS office is located in Kansas City, next to the damn Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank.
You will be able to use your SS account and your estate EIN number to process the SF1047s when you send those in along with an SF30
to claim reimbursement for all of your receipts that you have paid out of your back pocket. You would fill out either the 1415 or the 1416
to go along with the 1414 and the SF30. But that is pretty much it. We had to find the transportation or the bank routing numbers.
And that is what I kept digging at and basically going over Title 46, over and over again--something just was not clicking right.
And then I just said "hey, transportation--you are transporting something; what are you transporting? What are you driving?"
And everything out here, I have been saying this for years: everything out here is about banking.
It is not about you driving down the road or anything like that; it is all about banking. They could (not) give a shit less if you are on the damn road.
Do you need your DL to ride a bicycle, to drive a tractor down the road, to drive a lawn mower down the road? No! But to do banking transactions,
especially when the cop comes up and solicits a banking contract with you, you need to have a routing number.
And you do not need to allow solicitations with a cop because you are not obligated to bank with him.
He can give you a warning but that's it, it is just like an overdraft at the bank; how could you ever be overdrawn at the bank?
You have an insurance policy there to the tune of $250,000.00 You stand your ground against that banker and basically they will back down
and cancel that out, because they will put the charge in against the performance bond of that contract. It is another collateral trust certificate;
that bank account is a banking certificate. OK, I hope you guys understand everything that I have said here, and if you don't,
read the documents that I posted up there; there were several special ones that I put in the package that basically were addressing
the damn bond indentures and the standard form, showing out of the standard form it talked about closure.
In the bond indenture it talked about the certificates. None of these bonds that the state writes or even the SS and the Federal Reserve write
are on the books with the SEC, securities and exchange; they only handle corporate bonds, not governmental corporate bonds,
or governmental municipal bonds, however you want to look at it; when you read the document it says they are not recorded
with the Securities and Exchange Commission, therefore the state trustees are the ones that are overseeing all of these,
or other specialty trustees, like in the SSA or the VA. Those are the big three. The CoLB, the SS account, and the veteran's DD214 account.
The certificate of title to your house has the value of your house sitting there, and you can liquidate that certificate,
and take it off the taxing rolls and put it under the homestead exemption (protected homestead exemption).
But then you are going to have to contract privately for individual services that you want, like if you hook up to the sewer system,
you are going to have to pay so much sewage processing; water supply, garbage pickup, fire protection with the fire department,
police protection, but you do not have to pay for school if you have no kids; even if you did have kids and you wanted to home-school them,
you still would not have to pay the school taxes, and in some cases that is more than what all the rest of the taxes are.
Your vehicle: basically you can make that a private vehicle; you can re-classify it and say this is my farm tractor;
I am going to market with my farm tractor, I do not need a license, but you have got to claim it back from the state first,
before you try any of this stuff. And then when the state has no control over it, you are a freed person.
The state cannot come in and place you in involuntary servitude at their wish. And there is no such thing as voluntary servitude,
because nobody in their right mind would ever volunteer into a state of servitude, and that is why they treat you as an incompetent
in most court actions. One of the other things in any court action: you are insolvent. As long as basically you have that CoLB,
they have taken all of your just payment rights away from you. So you cannot make a lawful payment. You are insolvent.
That is one of the KEY defenses in any court action, as long as you have not caused any harm or damage; you are insolvent.
Your surety is holding all the assets. Who do they take to court? They take the surety to court. All you have to do is authorize the release
of the funds from the surety, in his name. In other words, you have to give him a transportation or a bank routing number, to basically
allow the transfer of the funds from the account; it is that damn simple; these courts are nothing but banking courts.
Give them the bank payment and stop arguing the damn system. Thinking that you have been told by all these other gurus out here
that this is the way it has got to be, "this over here", and basically none of them know anything about banking, especially commercial banking.
OK. Go ahead and open it up, Tom; I will answer a few questions, we will see where it goes.
Caller asks: wants to make sure she heard correctly; you said there is no trust certificate for any licenses?
For a license there is no collateral trust; you never gave any collateral to that driver's license; it is nothing but a transportation number
to allow the bank routing of the funds from the other certificates of collateral. That is why you need to read that letter that I have written up,
I tried to detail it appropriately so that basically even one of the damn attorneys up there at the damn capital building ought to figure out
what the hell I am talking about. Caller asks if this involves the US Department of Transportation? You do not have a license from the USDOT.
You have a local routing number from the state you are in, or the driver's license, or the identification license.
That is your routing number, or you have your passport number, or you have your estate EIN number; you have three to choose from.
The department of transportation at the federal level does not have a bank routing number for you; they never issued you anything.
Caller was just asking because he has a lot of friends that are truckers. Patrick says: they have got to have a state driver's license.
Tom asks if it is still a good idea to do the non-ucc and send it in or do we not need that anymore?
You do a non-ucc and basically you might want to update this appropriately, addressing the DL and the passport in a different capacity,
but you keep that in your private records; you can reference your non-ucc per your registered mail number, that you have that available,
but you do not need to send a copy of that in with it. OK? You don't need to send any of those other forms other than what I have addressed here,
with the SF30, 1414,1416,1418,1415 possibly, and basically if you want to stand in admiralty, you send a copy of your roman admiralty right
of baptism to place you into the waters of commercial commerce in admiralty. But otherwise, you are standing in the republic out here,
just by the fact of your registered birth certificate. And then see if any court action; basically if they do not comply,
you can bring suit against them and if you have your baptismal record, now you can bring suit against them in admiralty,
and basically that means that that has to be an article 3 court to where there is no bar attorneys in the process,
and they are going to lose hands-down. Tom says "and they lose their immunity by that action"; yes, so ain't going to let that go.
It would be just like you signing up as a volunteering servitude; they would show their complete incompetence to try and go in to admiralty.
The judge would laugh them right out of the damn courtroom, (and) probably send them to an insane asylum.
That is why so many of these courts are out here, turning around and basically ordering people to be tested--for sanity,
because basically they are coming in there and acting totally insane. And all these damn patriots out here have been basically--
I don't know whether they are totally out there to try and fill the coffers for the corporations or not but I think there are several of them
that are--totally out there lining their own pockets and also help lineing the corporations' pockets, by getting people to argue
when they need to come in and properly settle. And all you need to do is give them the bank routing number for your surety,
to allow the payment to be made, and that is with the SF30, the 1414,1416,1418 forms.
You stand as the owner. You stand in the republic. You invoke the laws of the republic. Anybody else have any questions?