Transcripts_Notes/01-Transcripts/patrick_0821.txt

Hello friends, I am in Arizona; if you need some help with the process or want to say hi, 
please leave me an SMS or a voicemail and I will give you a call back: (401) 526-4250

Caller has not found documents on the WeThePeople_Shareholders site (Yahoo Group); caller should go to econcurrent.com/devine
If you have Skype, you can use it to call Thomas and share your screen and he will see what you're doing.
Patrick says to go get one of the kids to help you...
What people need to do is start getting some younger people involved; there are a bunch of old people on this site
they are computer illiterate in a lot of ways (but these people think they are not). Get somebody else:
this information is too valuable not to pass on to the future generations; get them involved, show them
this monetary system--how messed up it is and how they can get out of it; we have the answer here right now;
this is the lost 13th tribe, everything in this nation in the republic is based around the number 13
and that is standing for the lost tribe--the lost understanding about republic law banking system;
the babylonian banking system and this trust banking system out of england is all based around the number 9
even back in 1730, the East India Company signed a treaty with 8 indian nations in delaware called the Treaty of Delaware,
it was a fraud; a deceptive fraud; that is why delaware really stands for devil's land or devil "wear".
I mean why is that little hunk of land all by itself? You divide up NJ and DE, I mean what is DE? About the same
as RI up there with CT. Give them the same status as a colony? Come on, people; they set/divided it up to try and get
13 again when they set up the constitution showing people that this was supposed to be the lost tribe;
this was supposed to be the new zion; the 12 tribes of hebrews lost their way when they went into the commercial
banking system and got into captivity with the babylonian bankers. 1776: last 2 digits 76 = 13. You see a bunch of 49s
out here; 4 and 9 adds up to 13. You look at the post office address system; you have the 9 digit zip code, but
you put the IA or the state 2 digit letters in front of it and then you put US behind it, now you have 4 letters, 9 numbers
= 13. That is in the de jure post office system; just with that alone any piece of mail can be delivered to you;
you don't need the street address, you don't need the city; OK? That's an address, it is a 13-digit address
because they can go to the state, they can go to the post office in the state and then the post office box within
that state in the post office, and they know it is in the united states: pretty simple numeric logic.
And then when we operate under the 13 registered mail number or the 13 digit express mail number,
we are really operating in the de jure republic post office system. When we get into the republic, we stand by the number 13.
 You are no longer lost; the number 9 is a dead man's number because when you flip it upside down you turn it into a 6
and the babylonian banking system is 666 dead mans; we know that the corporations are dead men,
we know that all the ss persons are dead men, and all the employee accounts are dead man accounts, 
so really the 9s are upside-down 6s. That is how they have hidden their system away from us:
the babylonian banking system under this English trust law system, the same thing that was back in Daniel's, Moses's,
Jesus's, Abraham's time: the dead man's banking system. 
Caller has a court hearing tomorrow, knows that the non-ucc was filed; how are they still holding proceedings?
I told you to go into court and basically you invoke the laws of the republic. You do that and then shut up;
say no more, say I am not contracting into this fraudulent commercial banking system; you get me a republic judge here;
you cannot proceed any further because I am standing in the republic law system.
They go against you and basically they are in violation of the 14th amendment; I do not consent to servitude;
I am protected by the 13th 14th and 15th amendments; I am standing in the republic under the protection of the law of 13.
Mull that over in your mind and then see what you want to say in the court;
then get the word out to somebody that they are in violation of the republic laws of 13 in this country.
Tell them you are the eagle standing in the shield of the justice system of this country,
that you are under the 13 arrows, 13 stars and 13 olive leafs; you are not the nine shit-tail feathers.
People have already gone into court and basically invoked the laws of the republic, and they have to shut it down
because basically they are in there in a fraudulent/commercial capacity, the devil capacity, the babylonian banking system.
But when you get out then you need to get this processed but you have to understand why you have the powers
and you can say I am invoking the republic laws per article 4 section 4 of the constitution;
I have the right to invoke the republic laws, and also the Biblical laws because the constitution was founded upon the Bible,
and it was really founded upon the Biblical laws of the lost tribe of the Hebrews, because they fell out
and got into the commercial banking system. And these sections that I posted up there from vol 1 5th congress session 2 chapters 49 and 50
they were implemented after they set up the first national foreign bank in this country under Biddle.
It was an English bank, controlled by the Rothschilds--babylonian bank. That is what all of this is about, it's about banking:
just banking or unjust banking; a man is worth his labor or basically he is screwed, and the bankers try and use it
for their benefit. Every one of these commercial banks out here ought to be shut down entirely; they are parasites
on the whole community, but there is only one way that you can shut them down and that is to bring about these GSA forms:
the SF30, you can modify these commercial contracts; you are not supposed to be the surety on any of these commercial contracts,
and that is what basically the GSA SF30 form is all about; it is about  solicitation or modification of the contract,
and the courts and everything are trying to do a solicitation against your contract, whether it's your ss, dl account, whatever.
You have to find account what account they are charging in that court system--and then they are trying to claim a $100k bounty
against that account. Your utility bills: you can modify those contracts. I told you a couple of weeks ago:
It was after I gave my documents to the county attorney and tried to have my payments for traffic tickets restored to me
but I did not have all the forms quite filled out but I went to the County Commissioner's meeting 
and the Waste Management was there trying to renegotiate their contract with the county, I asked are you a contractor, 
are you required to have a perf./pay. bond? He said Yes.
See All these utility companies that are operating in the state they all have to have a commercial contract
which is a contract trust under your account number that has a payment and a performance bond
they payments you make do not go to pay the bill; they go into a dead man's account;
they are using that as collateral to write the performance bonds out there that are paying the bill;
that is why you have to pay taxes: you are paying a tax on a dead man's account.
You have to understand how this system really works, and basically when we found the SF30, 1414, 1416 (payment bond) 
and SF1418 (performance bond): see you can modify those and have payments, say 
"hey I am modifying this contract I want a monthly payment
out of the payment bond returned to me on a monthly basis; same thing with the SS account you have a dead man's account
sitting there with a payment bond attached to it; you have a performance bond sitting there too;
and basically the SS Inspector General knows that I know something about this because a year ago,
I knew that there was fraud in the process and I was close enough that he jumped right on it
and got the payments over to me right away. It would have been in 3 days except they screwed up my direct express
account number so it took about a week longer after we got that straightened out.
But yeah, see and when did the GSA forms start coming about? Or the GSA system when did it go into effect? 1949: 49
another 13 staring you right in the face. It showed you the remedy right there. 
I don't know whether I am blessed or not: I was born in 49. My great-great grandfather became a citizen of this country
in 1849; also, my full name of just patrick devine adds up to 13. I have no problem in using 13 as a hammer.
13 is for when the Hebrews (people) have lost their way. I will reiterate that:
When the people lose their way in the monetary system, they have fallen away from the protections of the law of 13.
And that is what has happened in this country. Why did they just go with 13 colonies,
why did they have to wait until they had 13 signers? Why did they not go with 14? Others wanted to join in: Florida.
But no, they had to do it with 13, to make a point in the process. Their actions were not done by (accident);
it was planned out; see everyone goes around with that 1776, oh that is when Weishaupt founded the Illuminati
so they bad-mouth 1776, taking away the power of the Declaration of Independence: because what was that document about?
Franklin went to England and they questioned him about using the Continental Dollars in America.
They did not have inflation or unemployment or anything like that using the Continental dollars because it was a just dollar,
a lawful dollar, it has no usury associated with it; so the people when they paid a dollar, they paid a dollar.
They were not getting screwed over by the banks of paying for something and then basically having the banks
take so much of it away from them and then you did not have the funds to make the payment the next time,
because the banks have sucked so much away from it, and basically the East India Country was controlling the monetary system
in this country, and that was really what the Declaration of Independence was about: it was to break away from
the East India Company banking system that was ruling over all of the colonies and controlled out of England
by the king and the bankers in Londontown there, the Rothschilds, that was what the Declaration of Independence was all about:
declaring freedom from the unjust banking system. There is so much hidden stuff out here about:
"well the SoT is working for the IMF, he is working over here; he still has the title of the lawful office of this country,
we just have to invoke him to be into the republic of the country, he has to take off the other hat;
the same thing with the article 3 judges: you have to invoke the laws of the republic to get them to take their hats off,
their fraudulent commercial banking hats, and put on the de jure banking hat.
NO female judge can be in a republic court; "invoke" is the most powerful word in the English language 
because you are calling upon something higher, a law that was previous; your founding fathers, your ancients. 
You are bringing them back to life; you are not operating in the dead world anymore.
I have told you before that basically the number of man is 12, but when you add the spirit of understanding and knowledge
into the process, you now have 13; you are fully awake, and that is really what is going on,
when you were supposed to come of age; at 21 you were supposed to be standing in the power of 13.
But one other thing: you have to invoke the republic laws before you can revoke the unjust usury banking laws.
You have to show your authority in the process: why do you have the authority to do a revoking?
Because I have called upon the higher law and then basically the higher law now revokes this fraudulent or lower law.
But you people need to practice on this; you need to understand this: just because you turn around and do
some of these documents that I put up here to get out of the system; if you don't understand and know how to protect
yourself when you come out of the system, you are going to be far worse off than if you were to stay where you were right now.
This is all basically out here. Women now have to understand that basically they were not to be out front here.
The babylonian banking system, the phaeridic banking system, like the queen of Shiva, and in Egypt, queen of England...
and you want Hillary in the white house; yeah, put a woman in there; right... No, that AIN�T right!
Women do not have the right to vote; it was supposed to be a family vote anyway, a family unit, an estate vote;
a man's estate vote in the elections, and a woman was always supposed to be under the protection of a man,
because a woman is always a debtor, no matter what; she is a debtor to the man's estate, whether it be her father,
her dead father, her husband, or her dead husband; get over it. You want to be protected? Then operate with the real laws
of protection, and if your man will not get off his ass and do this, then basically revert back to your father
and get the hell away from that guy. You stand by the Book of Ruth, and there is numerous other places in the Bible
that call this out too. The Bible I have told you before is all about just and unjust banking, that is all that it is;
it is not about this stinking religion, and see this commercial foreign banking system basically got you into a false
belief of something out here, and that is a new religion, that is in violation of the first amendment.
Yeah and the commercial bankers have also violated a whole bunch of stuff in article 1, too.
Delaware: back to it, devil's land or deli-land. Basically where are the vast majority of the commercial corporations
incorporated out of? Delaware: devil's land. Basically all tied back to that 1730 treaty of Delaware, the devil's treaty.
The East India Company... I went in and tried to find information about the lost 13th tribe, and all you get
is these damn religious leaders saying "it is over here", "the Jewish cosmonauts over here claim they are the lost tribe",
they have no idea about banking, period, all these preachers; they don't want to talk about that!
And yet that is what everything is founded upon! And then the ministers always have their hand in your back pocket anyway;
they are no better off than most all of the teachers, quack doctors, the lawyers... all these guys are trying to get into
your back pocket; they don't want to go out and till the land, they want to be like abel sitting on their ass
and watching the cattle graze and then pushing them off the market when the futures go up,
when cain basically tilled the land and everything to bring the fruits up out of the soil, he did manual labor
to get his reward but he was not rewarded by that because all the credit was going to that fraudulent abel.
The tree of knowledge that adam and eve ate off of, was not the tree of knowledge, it was the tree of usury:
the knowledge of usury, and they used cain to their benefit. That is why they lost favor with god and were cast out.
It is all right there, I mean basically I don't know how more it can be pointed out to people,
and they totally miss the big picture, just like all of these 13s out here, they keep cropping up in key areas:
the expatriation act, chapter 249: 4 and 9 = 13. 5th congress session 2 chapter 49; what comes after 49? 50!
What is 50? Jubilee! Read what it says about Chapter 50. It is a jubilee for the debtor! 
And they put it right in there, I mean they passed it right the same day, why could they not have put it all into 49?
That's a good question because they were both passed on the same day--because they wanted to use 50 also, showing the jubilee.
How do you get to the number 49? You get seven 7s. A contract's lifetime was only supposed to be for seven years.
Seven 7s was the max that a contract was supposed to be utilized: 49. That is why it was called out in the Bible.
A full ten 7s, of 70 years, was brought out by Daniel about the captivity of the Hebrews when they went into Babylon
but then before the 70 years was up, the Medes-Persians took over and Daniel went to the Medes-Persians and said
"hey, the 70 years indenture contract of servitude has been fulfilled", and the Medes-Persians allowed the Hebrews to go back home
if they wanted to; the gates were swung open. These things are all in the Bible if people would look at them for what they really are
instead of listening to all of these babylonian fraudulent ministers out here that don't know a stinking thing about the Bible.
Oh who begot who? Who fucked who yesterday? Who has this child down here? Who has this one over here? Lineage:
they go off on this damn tangent and basically then they spread out more hate; that is the only thing that these guys can operate,
is they are a hate-mongering group, all these ministers: "ours is right, they are wrong". They are all wrong!
Because they do not understand that it is all about banking: just labor and unjust exchangement.
Now I posted up several documents up there: the SF30, I did a modification on it and basically put in there how this is supposed
to be processed. You do a package when you send in your BC, your SS account, Driver's license: you need to send in more than just 1.
You have to send in your key ones that are keeping you held down. For a man, if he had military service, he should have his DD214,
he should have his SS account, he should have his COLB account, mortgage, vehicle titles, anything that will cause you any harm:
get them all out there in the package. Show them that you know that these other things are contracts that are holding you down too.
Your checking accounts, your savings accounts, your passport, your voter ID card; look at them, check and see about the 9-digit
numbers on them. Any post office that you had out here over your lifetime under the 9-digit system in the postal system;
basically the post office was using that as an account. How many credits were assigned to that post office when you took that 9-digit
number? We don't know. The bank account basically they started off putting at least $250,000 of credit into the payment bond.
And then all of your deposits went in there too: into the payment bond, but all of your checks that were written out of that bank
account came out of the performance bonds; after 10 years you have essentially abandoned that bank account if you closed it down.
Everybody thought that Jesse James was one of the king bank robbers in the country; No! The Bush cartel family is the biggest
bank robbers in this country, along with JP Morgan and a few others out here in the process.
But when Lincoln and Silverado S&L went under, basically all the payment bonds were absorbed by the bankers, by the Bushes!
Why the FBI has not come down on them? I do not know, but they are nothing but a rogue outfit of bank robbers.
Most all of the presidents we have had have been swindlers or bank robbers out here over the last 50-60 years, ever since
they killed Kennedy, all we have gotten is bank robbers since that time, or shills working for the bank robbers.
Reagan was just a patsy. Look at the background of all these guys; they all had banking or lawyer, a BAR license in their background.
I posted up the cover letter of what I am sending in to the secretary of the treasury.
We are going to Lew, he has dual nationality and is supposed to be a citizen of Israel from what we are told.
He has dual job titles; he is working for the IMF, he is also working for the Republic banking system in this country,
if you INVOKE the republic. All these contracts we have: we are the guarantor over those contracts,
and that means that we are guaranteeing the funds in the republic. But they are using them in their commercial banking system.
Only we the people can give the full faith and credit to the country because the gov't employees, subservient gov't employees
that are supposed to be working for us because we are the owners out here, not the other way around;
the government does not own shit. The government does not have the right to enforce a fraudulent law upon a person that is standing
in the republic. Jesus pointed that out numerous times in his parables about the good servants and the bad servants.
It was all about banking when he was talking about the servants. Even the payment of the labor in the grapevine scenario,
to where he went to the market and hired people to work in the vineyard, the people hired out for a certain amount,
now they want to come back and re-negotiate at the end of the day because somebody else was getting a little more than they were
for less labor? You were just a piss-poor negotiator when you started. He was trying to show people how the money system
can screw you over, and how in some cases you have to live with the consequences when you go into a contract.
But he also showed you the way and the path to come out and get out of the fraudulent contracts.
That is all that he did, and like I said the word Christ came about in the Roman timeframe, 
not in the Greeks, Medes-Persians, or Babylonian; why? Because the laws were cast in stone in Moses' time.
The laws were then cast in gold in the babylonian timeframe, then in the Medes-Persians it was cast in silver,
then in the Greek period it was cast in copper or bronze; in the Roman time it was cast in iron;
that is what Christ really stands for: cast in iron. And see that is what Jesus was doing: he was standing in the republic laws.
In the babylonian period, the republic laws were the laws cast in gold. In Moses' time, the laws that were cast for the republic
were in stone. In our time, the laws for our timeframe here in America is the laws cast by the Amendments and by the Constitutional
republic banking charter, and all the associated statutes at large that stand for the republic laws,
not for the corporations but for the republic laws, protections against the contractors, against the commercial world 
or the corporate world. Reference them. You reference the codes of law and you will basically go down with them.
You invoke the laws of the republic: The constitutional republic banking charters, not the commercial banking charters
that they have out here under the united states corporation company of which all the states of are tied back to:
the united states corporation company. OK. Any questions? But read those documents over; you need to understand those
before you go out and do any of this stuff, please. Because they will definitely be talking to you.
I am sure that they know me pretty well and they have been monitoring everything that I have been saying,
so they know what I know now in the process, but if you do not understand and have the right understanding of it,
basically then you could be getting yourself into trouble, and like I said before: you need to get this out to your children,
younger people also, get them to help, say "hey, you want to know how to set off your mortgage? I can help you;
sit down here and work with me a little; I am not good at the computer but I have been listening to this guy and this guy
has the right track on what is going on here". Your mortgage is already paid for after 3 years, you just have to get it
processed out; you already gave them the credits to buy the house to begin with; now just return the credits back to the treasury,
allow the treasury to siphon off the tariff taxes for the fraudulent usage of this foreign banking system,
and then ??? all of the lawful credits back to you. It is a 3-part deal; everything operates in threes,
but our protection is under 13; the power of 13. That is why these bankers and everything, they hate the 13th floor.
These documents are posted up on econcurrent.com/devine/files/
What type of trouble do you think we can get into if we are not careful once we come out?
You will contract right back into them, that is the problem. If you don't understand how the banking system fully functions,
they will be able to trick you back into contracting with them.
Do you think the treasurer will try to trick us back in or will they stay in honor?
No, I think that local county attorney will try to trick you back into the system too.
The cops, basically they are all operating under DUNS numbers, they are out there ??? for these commercial people
by having a sticker on your car, saying "hey I bought this from Joe Blow's ford dealership down the road here",
that is a commercial advertisement, that means your vehicle is operating in the commercial world,
it is a red flag for the cop to look at that, it has this commercial sticker on the side of its car saying that it is.
Not "Chevrolet", that is not the advertisement; the advertisement is where you bought the vehicle from.
Chevrolet is just a model of the car. But if you want to take it off, take it off.
I am talking about the little sticker that all of these car dealerships put on your vehicle:
you go and buy a car and basically you get the warranty on the car; you do not want any warranty, you revoke it.
You take a 30-day lemon deal that if the thing breaks down within 30 days, you have the right to return it;
after that, I own the vehicle and I will pay all of the expenses for that vehicle.
See, that is the trickery: Ford motor company basically keeps you under a contract under a warranty,
hell look at all these damn insurance policies that you get in the mail. It is all fraud.
Patrick, are you saying that we can get a vehicle and not accept anything that they try to offer us?
When you get out of the system and start operating under the just banking system, now you will have more funds
than you know what to do with. You have the right to borrow from the Treasury on your own terms.
You have the right to make a profit. You get paid in cash, you don't take checks, say "no I want cash".
See, that is what I mean; You have to know how to protect yourself when you come out of the system.
You don't get into their commercial paper system. That is the problem that most people have, OK?
They are afraid to let go of something. Well if you have the funds to turn around and buy another vehicle sitting in your back pocket
and your vehicle breaks down... shit, you just go and buy another one; sell that one for scrap metal, whatever.
Find some other commercial sucker that will buy it off of you. You guys really ain't quite ready to operate out here
in the real banking system, because you have been inundated with all of this commercial stuff out here;
you don't understand, you have to get rid of all--ALL items when you come out; you cannot have one foot in and one foot out.
Can you give us a bibliography to read? I don't think there is any stuff out there unless you read 
what Daniel and Jesus and Moses said about the banking system. None of these other guys out here have any of this shit down right.
See, that is the thing; nobody out here has talked about the republic laws or the law of 13, to see how all these numbers
are hidden right in plain sight. Why did these things take place at that point in time?
They were working on the Declaration of Independence several years before 1776, why did it have to be done in the middle of the year
in 1776? Why are there so many 49s out here? Why are there three 13s in the great seal?
Not to mention the feathers on the wings of the eagles and where the 9 tail-feathers are at the bottom of the eagle.
It is sitting right there looking at you, and all you have to do is start looking at these things: why 13? Why?
Ask the question why; that is what we were told to do is to read the bible as a little child, and a child asks the question why?
Why was it done this way? If you don't ask the question why, you will never get the answer.
And I kept asking the question in my mind and in my soul to try and find what the answer really was.
And I started to see the process of the puzzle sitting right there in front of us of all the different statutes that I was looking at,
the key ones, and saying "hey when somebody out there is badmouthing some person in some regards, and basically they are being
badmouthed too damn much, then basically something is wrong here, because if they are being badmouthed that much,
why are they not in jail"?
On the transfer by deed, I put both myself and my wife on here...
Basically you place her under your estate control, yes. I used my estate EIN for her.
No, you basically claim that you are the republic state owner and that per your marriage, she is now indebted to you in the process.
You can add more to this, OK? I don't have a wife right now...??? about her being my control when I put my document in.
Just look at it as an estate and operate it as such, a republic estate that she is basically part of your estate,
like all of your children would be part of your estate, and that you are the protector/guardian over them.
Use those words: "I am her protector". OK?
Caller asks if patrick would mind going over the documents that were posted to the group site yesterday?
I posted a copy of my SF30 UCC contract trust fugitive SF30 rewritten to use that phrase in the write-up block,
I did my letter of credit transfer by deed to the SoT, I did a transfer deed endorsement template,
I did a transfer of treasury credits by deed example rev. 2, I did a "I invoke the republic laws of 13",
I did "there is no debtor prisons in America" document which has both chapter 49 and 50 in it highlighted.
I posted a new badge that I made up to where it says united states republic executive owner, bounty hunter, private attorney general,
and then with the seal of the nation and underneath that "republic laws of 13" and then my birthing date, date that I was born.
now you could have basically used the berth date, which should be roughly 90 days, 3 months after the date you were born,
because that is your 1-year anniversary and that is basically when you were supposed to be able (as a prince) to put a claim
against your inheritance. I also put a document up there for the DUNS number.
Caller asks if Patrick had any resolution with the ford motor corporation with the truck.
No, I never heard anything back from that when I sent that in, but see I have to get this other thing straightened out first.
See I was trying to go through the ucc contract trust department in that process, and until we get with the republic,
straightened out with the SoT, they will not process anything we want going the other way.
Caller only has the BC and the SS card, can caller just start with those or make reference to the others?
If you have the numbers for the others, make reference to them in your document.
Another caller asks to go over exactly what needs to be done with the mortgages.
You can either go right straight to the bank or you can basically turn around and send them in to the Secretary of Treasury; 
do the SF30s for all these documents, your CoLB, SS account; you do the SF30, you are modifying the contact,
you basically put in your SF1414 showing that you are basically the owner over that surety person that is on those contracts,
you do the perf. and pay. bond also, and on those in the value you can just write in "full liquidation",
you hand-write it in there in blue. But if you are going to turn around and like with the utility company:
until you totally get out of the system, you can basically say "hey, I have this contract with the utility company,
it is not shut down yet", basically you can modify the contract and say that your payment is to be taken out of the perf. bond
that they are holding, and then on the perf. bond the 1418 you put down the monthly payment that should be taken out
of that performance bond to pay the monthly payment bill; pretty simple. And then you send that back in attention to the CFO
of that utility company; send it back to them by certified mail, under green card, or better yet send it back
by registered mail or express mail. You pay $22 for express mail to have a $300 utility bill set off for the next year, every month.
That is a pretty good deal! And if you get express mail, make sure you mark on there that a signature is required.
You as the customer have to mark that box, and it is right below where you put your address on the top on that label.
Read the damn documents. That is the key problem in this country: nobody reads the instructions.
They want everybody else to tell them how to do the things, and they do not want to read and comprehend, and unless you can do that,
you will never have the full understanding about how to protect yourself out in the system.
Nobody ever read their contracts with the banks when they set the damn things up; nobody ever read the insurance contracts
because there was so much garbage there, people should have just turned around and thrown it back at them, saying "this is bullshit".
That is why when you go in like to get a vehicle, you revoke all the warranties; you don't even take the dealership--(do not?)
have the dealership put a tag on your vehicle for 30 days to operate the vehicle without a license.
You buy it in your private bank account under your individual banker's EIN, that he is a non-taxable employee of your private bank.
You should have an estate EIN over all of your accounts. Like I said before, everything operates in threes.
They have to operate by threes too, but in the republic system we are operating under four; it is right in the constitution:
article 1, the legislature, article 2, the executive branch, article 3 the judicial branch, article 4
the we the people power and authority that we have over the government; only we can authorize the credits to be transferred
over to the government--for their beneficial usage. Congress cannot; they can basically borrow credits,
but they cannot transfer credits; only we the people can transfer credits after we borrow them;
and that is what has gotten us into trouble, we borrowed credits by our signature but then we transferred our credits
over to a fictional person into the commercial world. Only we can transfer credits. 
But we also have the right to bring those credits home, under the expatriation act, 249. Any other questions?
The group site is called "WeThePeople_Shareholders", and it is a yahoo group; so you have to sign up with yahoo.com,
then you go into there and search for groups (search for "we the people shareholders"), then you find the group there,
and you have to sign up to become a member of the group. The other place is econcurrent.com/devine
There is no membership with that. And then you look at the folder, the higher number in the folder (contains) the latest documents.
The phone calls are all there, they are sorted by date and you can listen to them; there are a couple of extras there
that cover other topics, specialty topics, but there are examples in all of those documents.
This is not an overnight turn-key when you get into this as a new member; you have a little catching up to do;
it may take you a month of study in the process, unless you work with somebody else, sit down at a round-table, a study hall table,
and go over this with other people. That is what I am saying: you need to branch out a little more instead of trying
to do something else writing procedures; I had to do my own research for writing test procedures and everything;
maintenance procedures, but I knew where to look for some documents that had already previously been written at other power plants.
(Patrick worked in nuclear power as a test engineer).
Caller says he just got a call yesterday from a friend who said she was picked up by the FBI and extradited back to NM
for a warrant that was existing; what kind of research can I do on that to hopefully alleviate the situation, and get her out?
No, you have to get yourself out first, OK? You cannot be trying to help somebody else if you have not helped yourself first. OK?
You can give them the information to study on their own. Why was she picked up by the FBI? An outstanding warrant. For what?
Having to do with contempt of court. All she has to do is invoke the laws of the republic! What was her court charge to begin with?
Caller says "I am not too clear on that", but like patrick said he is working to get himself out. 
Basically all she needs to have is to know... see they are taking her into a commercial court; 
she has to invoke the laws of the republic, "hey, I am not a fictional person, I invoke the laws of the republic"
"what republic law did I break?" How did I get into finding out about chapter 48 in the first volume of the statutes at large
5th congress session 2 chapter 49; how did I find it? I found it by going and doing a word search for "insolvency".
One of the key things in all of these courts is that you are insolvent! Your credits and everything that you borrowed
are not in your hands; you are insolvent. One judge tried to get one guy that was up on traffic tickets to say that he was
insolvent; the judge asked him three times: are you insolvent? All the guy had to say was yes, and the judge would have settled
the matter for him from the contract, because we are basically in this babylonian banking system, we are insolvent.
All of our credits and everything is over in the hands of our fictional person that is being held under the power of the contractor.
And see that was partly what was addressed in chapter 49: it is the debtor that has to return the credits.
And see, it even says that these credits are being held in a trust; they have the word right there, and then they have the word "deed"
in that document, so all we have to do is basically have our fictional person--we are in control of him, he is now the grantor,
he his going to grant those back to us, we are the guarantor, and we turn around and transfer all those contracts over to
the temple priest or the treasury to have them brokered just like in Moses' time. We are going to give over our bulls and goats
to the temple to have them adjudicated. And see that is what the hebrews got away from because they also set up
the jezebel temple system, and everybody started flocking to the jezebel temple instead of going to the de jure temple.
See, Daniel stayed in the de jure temple; Jesus tried to throw out the money-changers and everything out of the de jure temple,
that the jezebels had infiltrated, and that is the same thing we have here today; the jezebel commercial bankers
have infiltrated our courthouses, our republic banking houses, our just temples. 
So you have to invoke the laws of the republic to take back that temple process.
And then you use your SF30s and 1414, 1416, and 1418 forms and basically sign those deeds over to them, say
"here, I am ordering the liquidation of these".
Caller says that she did send off the SF30 and 1414 with cover letter for the electricity bill.
She was due for shutoff on Monday, and called them Friday to see if they had received them; they had.
She said that she needed to speak with the supervisor; the same guy got back on the phone and will not get the supervisor,
and he wanted to inform her that they will pay her past-due bill and will not shut off her electricity.
She had several people wanting to contact her but gave them the same steps that patrick gave. It works, it takes time;
you have to research, study, and stay on these people, and call them back and tell them "I know you received this
because according to the certification you received it on such-and-such day".
She also sent a package to the credit card company; they got the package and said "legal department is handling it,
it takes 5-7 business days", she said "I will out of courtesy extend you until Friday, you call me back Monday or (else) I will".
She said "If you don't, the IRS, the CID, or the Secret Service will be contacting your corporation."
As soon as you get these GSA forms, the SF30s and get them filled out; the instructions are pretty self-explanatory,
when you understand what I have been talking about--about the contracts out here--there is information about construction contracts,
and see, these are set up pretty much the same way as a construction contract for a contractor to build a house,
and that is all that they are they are just a modified construction contract, and you are the owner;
you have to come in in the owner's capacity to direct that contractor what he has to do,
see nobody has been telling them what they have to do, where is the payment to come from; the payment is to come from the surety
bonds that are sitting there which is the performance bonds.
Caller also went to court and gave them a payment bond, she told the judge that they had received information,
judge said he had not received it, but she sent to the clerk of the court, the solicitor and the judge; 
they claimed they did not see it but it is on file there they just chose not to look it up.
Since she did not enter a plea or sign anything, they sent her a letter stating that she had to go to another court 
for not having a license. She asked the judge if his court was higher than the supreme court,
there were 6 different supreme court cases where they ruled that there is no requirement for a license, but judge would not address it.
He wanted to step out and leave saying "I will be right back", she said "no you will stay here until this is done".
So she turned around and walked from the judge, and said "we are done here, I am not signing anything",
he said "if you don't come back to court on this day, they will put out a bench warrant for your arrest",
the deputy said "ma'am the judge is talking to you", I turned around and told the judge "you are done, finished; you understand?"
I told the deputy to step aside; he looked at me and stepped aside; everyone was bewildered.
The judge told her "who do you think you are that you can come in here and just ask that this can be dismissed and not pay"
I am somebody that has the guts to stand up to you, it took me 55 years to get enough guts to stand up to you. The judge was mad.
The caller will make sure to invoke the republic laws and study more next time.
When you go into court, you invoke the laws of the republic but you also ask them "Do you have a BAR license?"
See, under the republic laws, that judge and prosecutor cannot have a BAR license, they are in violation of article 1 section 10.
See that is what I mean: people need to understand what is in the constitution; you don't reference supreme court cases
or anything like that; you have to stand by the republic, you have to stand by the power of the 13s.
See, they were going to charge me when I went into a bankruptcy court with threatening a female judge,
but when I referenced the eagle over the shield of the justice department, that I was the eagle, basically right then and there
everything took a turnabout; they had no jurisdiction any longer. See, I did not know that at the time, that was over 3 years ago,
but now I know the power of the 13s and the power of being in the republic system, because almost 99% of all these court cases,
you have not violated any republic laws; it is all commercial laws. And basically these are all under a commercial contract
and basically the performance bond is supposed to be paying for all of these charges; your driver's license, you gave a signature
an autograph, and then the credits that you released from the treasury for that drivers' license were put into a payment bond
that was the collateral for the performance bond. See that is the kicker, the credits are still sitting there,
they have not used the credits, but we transferred the credits to the payment bond like you are a land owner leasing your property out,
you are transferring that property over to a tenant to rent that property from you, but he is going to raise a crop,
which is the performance bond on the property, he has to pay you so much rent back and then anything else that possibly might come up.
If he has cattle or something like that he has to be the one to fix the fence, not you.
See, this little kickers in this damn process, when you understand how simple contracts work,
and that is why I have tried to use the example of a housing contract that you are the owner of that and if the contractor
does not fulfill his obligations then you have the right to terminate that contractor, and in most cases on this SF30,
the contractor is not going to sign that SF30, so do not even expect him to sign it, because if he was to sign that SF30
he would essentially be admitting to (committing) insurrection against the country. So they are not going to sign it,
so mark that box "contractor not required to sign".
Caller says that she will take the forms back in; should she walk them in or mail them?
If need be, but I would send it and get a copy over to that prosecuting attorney; he is the broker in that court.
The prosecuting attorney called her that afternoon and said "if you just get your license I will make all these charges go away".
Patrick: All you needed to do was say "you show me the republic law that says I need to have a license".
See, I am terminating that contract; you guys have not paid the bills for the contract anyway, so I am revoking...
I am INVOKING the laws of the republic and I am revoking this driver's license, this contract here, and I want full liquidation
for that driver's license contract, see that is what you have to do is pick up the contract now, get all the funds adjudicated
back; release the credits back to the treasury. Yes, (the credits) that you borrowed; you have to return the credits
that you borrowed from the treasury; you have to allow the IRS to come in and basically take out the custom tariff taxes
out of the performance bonds that are sitting there. And then they have to basically broker that account out
and give you the just meat from that bull contract. See, that is what I am saying: you guys have to know a little more,
you just don't try and rush into these things because in some cases you will get yourself in bigger hot water in the process,
and I have tried to explain this simply like in modern-day parables to you guys to give you some additional protections,
that is why you have to sit down and work with other people and talk this over so that you get it in your mind's eye the right way.
Caller asks how to form another group outside of what we are doing on the calls?
You find a relative or son/daughter and sit down with them and try to go over this with them, say
"hey, we were taught wrong, we need to get the right understanding about the banking system here,
you are getting screwed (son/daughter), you are out here working for slave wages, how about getting over here
into the just system, and I can show you how to pay off your house, it is sitting right there; you have a mortgage..."
See, bring your family first if you can; if not, bring in a fellow neighbor or whatever, somebody that you think might be interested,
if they have run into problems, like bankruptcy, foreclosure, the tax man is after them, say "hey, here is the answer,
let's sit down and work on this together". Caller says that everyone is scared, she knows family members who say she will go to jail.
If you get one thing done like your utility bill paid, you have something to show them, then you can expand it outward
because they are all the same; all these contracts are the same scenario; see, you start simple and then basically you build upon it.
Caller says she has not liquidated her SS account and all the other stuff, but she wants to start off small,
then eventually she will build herself up enough to where she will go the sheriff's office and...
we don't need to go to the sheriff's office, we go right to the SoT. Where did we borrow the credits from? The treasury.
We did not borrow from the state treasury; the state treasury has no credits to give; they cannot transfer credits.
So there is only one place that we can borrow the credits from and that is from the national republic treasury
and then we can transfer them to all of these state organizations. That is partly what the secret service is involved with.
You don't argue with the taxman, you say "here, set this thing off, here is my GSA SF forms; take the taxes,
I am authorizing you to take the taxes from the debtor"; the debtor is the one that owes these items, not you,
and that is what is called out in chapter 49, it is also addressed in these SF forms.
Caller says that she is waiting for them to get back with her; she wrote to the DoT IRS in DC and asked about the FOIA
that she had requested, so they sent her back a letter and told her that she had to establish her identity
by submitting signature and address or something with a copy of her signature on it; they referred her to
the IRS centralized processing unit in the state of Georgia, they are allowed 20 days to comply with the information she requested.
They have until Thursday to present this information to her.
Patrick: that is why I have put up a copy of my badge and my law that says you have to give them identification.
There is no law that says you have to have a state driver's license; there is no republic law that says you have to have
a state-issued identification. Your Bible: you operate under the laws of 13, under the Biblical laws and under the republic laws
of this country; you have the power, you are the owner, get that through your mind.
It says we the people in front of all these banking charters, and all these constitutions are nothing but banking charters. OK?
Caller says they requested signature, address, and one other identifier (such as a copy of the DL).
Patrick says: you make it up, you create it, you are the creator. They want to keep you in the commercial system (using DL as ID),
you want to operate in the republic; it's that simple. Caller says she had no state DL, she sent copy of an old ID nearly-expired.
You make up your own identification, that is why I put those templates up there to show you how to do that.
You put your picture on there; you put your information on there and then basically you sign it and date it,
you put your right and left index fingers on there, those are your boundary markers. OK? You are a hunk of land ABOVE the ground:
here is my boundary marker(s), here is who I am; who do you say I am now? I am not the commercial debtor.
Caller asks when they do compile her FOIA information and return it to her, then she can send them a package?
You don't need to wait for that information back; you can start doing these SF30s, 1414,1416,1418 and start terminating these contracts,
but you are probably going to have to do most of them through the treasury department, you have to go through the temple.
Caller asks if she goes to the DoT in Wash. D.C. or the one here in Georgia? 
Patrick: If you have state items, you can take them right to the AG's office for your state items if you want to do that,
or you lump them all together and send them out to the de jure treasury in washington dc.
Caller says she will go straight to the internal revenue service in washington dc.
Patrick says to go down to the store and buy a $20 cell phone and a $25 card (net10 is the cheapest one),
put that number out and you can always throw that away; you have only lost 20-40 dollars [this scribe uses Google Voice (free)]
The contact number for Archbishop Brown was given out, he requested a call from the caller with the success story.
Patrick asks why to hide from these guys with unlisted/restricted numbers? You can have multiple phones.
I can throw this one away, get mad at it, throw it against the wall--I'm done with that one.
Everybody was barking up the wrong tree while the real target was four trees away laughing at us.
Caller asks about sponsoring an immigrant to come to this country; there are some forms they look like contracts.
Do we need to discharge those also as part of the non-ucc and SF30s? Yes if you are their sponsor/guardian,
I would do a non-ucc in the process and then turn around and liquidate those contracts.
So what would the effect be? Let's say I got divorced from one of these immigrants? What would happen if I were to liquidate?
Well, they may get deported. Caller says he has done something incorrect on the form, should he re-file?
Yes, I would file because basically they borrowed credits from your account for the contract,
so basically you send that in, that notification, you transfer that over as deeds, especially if they have a 9-digit number,
and most all of these under the babylonian banking system are operating under a 9-digit customer/employee's account number,
and then they also have the individual EIN 9-digit number under the social security number. 
Yeah, they bring everybody under the individual's number so that they establish that 9-digit number,
then everything else from that goes out as an employee or a customer account number, and the contractor has his 9-digit DUNS number
in the process, so now they have their three 9s basically operating in the dead world to turn them into three 6s
in the babylonian banking system. Caller asks if he can run marriage contract along with the sponsorship documents for liquidation.
Yes, that would be one of the documents you turn in along with your SS account and CoLB; you liquidate that.
Because there were credits and the other person's credits were sponsored by you if they were an immigrant into this country,
so you sponsored the credits that were transferred for her if you got this under a state marriage license,
and then you also transferred YOUR credits. Caller asks if he should send a copy of this form to the judge?
Yes, and that is the same thing for all these people in jail for non-payment of child support; 
the marriage contract was to pay the bill. Caller says he has a judgment against an attorney, how to retrieve it?
That is a solicitation, if you look at the SF30 it says solicitation/modification of the contract;
all court cases are solicitations, just like a traffic ticket: that cop is soliciting you to contract with him,
so it is a solicitation and it is addressed right in that SF30.
Almost all of this stuff is new, so nobody really has the experience to guide another through the process.
You have to know that all court cases: they are soliciting you to contract with them, and if you stand in the republic,
you cannot contract with them because they cannot contract with the living.
Caller asks if he should send a copy to Department of Homeland Security and also Customs and Enforcement,
his reasoning is that he just liquidated the contract and these people are illegal aliens.
Patrick says: You just let the customs agents in the treasury department take care of that.
The treasury department is over the customs department out here; the customs agents are basically a function of the treasury.
Patrick has not received his truck yet; he is trying to get the rest of this out now that he sees we only have to transfer this out.
I have already bought one car outright with no license/insurance and never paid any sales tax.
So when I get out of the system I can go and get another one the same way, but I will have the MSO
and basically I will turn that into them and get reimbursed for that from that ford motor company contractor performance bond.
See, we are the owners of this country; ford motor company is just a contractor, so we own that contract as soon as we get it,
that certificate of title: we now own that contract, and all we have to do is put in the SF30, 1414...
Caller asks if they will pay you back in credits or in money? We turn it back to the treasury, let them do it;
they are the public servants. In Moses' time, the people took their contracts to the priest outside the temple,
the priest took them into the temple; the people did not go into the temple; we turn it over to the temple priest
and let them take it in, and the chief temple priest is the secretary of the treasury in the republic banking system.
He will basically restore from the contract the credits that are owed back to the treasury,
cancelling out that much national debt and then they will take and cut away all of the bad stuff, which is the custom/tariff taxes
under the tariff tax (act) of October 13th, 1913, and then give us all the residue back from that contract.
Another caller has a question: there is a fine line between coming out of the system and filing all of these forms,
the other side of it is needing income or monies, can we still do this if we are collecting unemployment,
if we have a specific type of license, can we still operate and do those things?
Well, basically they are not going to shut these things down overnight. Don't worry about it, they have three days,
that is the law in the bible: 3 days, death and resurrection; as soon as you kill your debtors, they have three days
to resurrect you back into the living world to bring your debtor back home to you after they have received these.
See, nobody knows this out here because nobody has done this properly, and if they have done it properly they are not speaking.
Caller says she did submit the forms weeks ago, and was going to resubmit with the new information,
the problem is she has already threw some other processes and sent the original BC to the state.
Patrick says: you never send an original, you send a certified copy of the banking instrument.
Caller says she has to get a new birth certificate and do the process again.
Another caller asks if Patrick has a copy of a cover letter online? Yes, it is up there, it was posted today.
Caller asks about how to get it to be upper/lower case. You don't; that is a debtor, and you are terminating him,
per your transfer deed; he is the guy that is on the transfer deed, he is the grantor, he is granting those items back to you
as the guarantor in the republic system, now you are going to transfer those as a guarantor and turn your fictional debtors
over to the treasury, just the way it calls out in chapter 49. Read the document, it is right there.
Caller asks if there is any special number that you need for the estate, like a 98-? No, not for the estate EIN.
You just get the estate EIN over your SS person, you have declared him dead and covered him under an estate EIN,
but you need to terminate that SS contract, then under your estate EIN you will be able to later on process your entitlements
from the Federal Reserve Bank out here. That estate EIN right now is sitting in a state of limbo. Just keep him in reserve. OK?
Because when we turn around and do this, there is not going to be three 9s, it will just be a 9 by itself.
And see, the babylonian banking system cannot operate with just one 9.
Another caller asks if it is possible to contact Patrick directly with questions or even have 1-on-1 consultation?
Patrick says if you listen to the calls and read the documents that are posted, you should have more than enough information.
It is best if you get into the "We the People" group and post your questions to the group or get onto the skype group and ask them.
You guys start working together; I have tried to give you all the guidance that I can.
Caller says that people were very helpful and asking to be more specific with his inquiry.
Take the time and read the instructions; you will be surprised. If you graduated from high school, you are not a dummy.
You are not like these babylonian bankers and these BAR attorneys, they are the dummies.
They do not know; one bankruptcy judge was foreclosing on a bunch of houses, then all of a sudden they were going to foreclose
on his house, and he did not know how to get out of the system; that is how dumb these guys are, yeah they get a big salary 
and everything, (but) they don't even know where the money is coming from, and they are out here screwing their neighbors over,
and then they go to church sitting in the front pew like Jesus talked about, about the high-and-mighty coming in,
and the guy that really got redemption was the guy that came in and sat in the very last pew and thought about what he was doing
and basically asked for forgiveness, he was the one that was forgiven, the other guy was not.
Yeah, these guys are not that smart; take a look at the past presidents we had, how many dummies have we had in the white house?
I mean even a monkey could have handled their job! Let's call it a night.