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Breaks in the call recording are identified with '?????'.
Places where it is hard to hear are identified with '???'.

Tom says: We will probably be going to the sheriff to have him accompany us; we will have to have some supplemental letters.
Is there anywhere to see the SF forms filled out? Yes, they are on econcurrent.com/devine and on the yahoo group too, a recent ZIP file Jul 31st.
We should be going to the yahoo group because the files are in reverse date order there. On econcurrent.com/devine it is alphabetical order.
Tom describes how to search for files stored locally on your windows machine...
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Instead of finance office, we will be going to the sheriff and the county prosecutors/commissioners.
Thomas Ford says under their requirement 26 usc 6013 g4a: request for establishment of foreign status of id numbers pursuant to code 
26 cfr 301.6109 section 1(g)1(i): ssn is number belonging to us citizen or resident alien,
person may establish different status by providing proof of foreign status to IRS.
IRS will assign this status to the individual's SSN.
The SF30 modification is your free-will act and deed to get that change from the classification of being a us citizen (of four classes).
We may want to be looking at not only cancelling/terminating but also the reclassification under 26 cfr 301.6109 section 1(g)1(i).
Patrick has a rebuttal to that: Why are you referencing commercial codes? Actions required when alien wants a status change.
Patrick says: Everybody has been arguing for years here about trust, we have to have a trust. But has anyone sat down and analyzed
where trust really came from? It originated out of England. The "babylonian system"; instead of using the word "bail", 
"babylonian bail system" or "phaeridic system" under Egypt (Phaeridic banking system),
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we are operating under the english trust system--same process--placing your assets in a bailment in the process.
The old babylonian system all over again, just using a different word called trust--contract trust.
We have the protections by the statute to come out. All the codes of law (IRS codes, etc.) that applies to the commercial fictions.
So why would we want to use (those)? If we want to stand in the Republic (and that is where we need to stand);
read section 4 in article 4, it says that the United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republic form of government.
Well previously I had stated that we the people are the united states. We have to guarantee that into the state.
In other words, one of the first things we need to do is invoke the national republic constitution out here, article 4 section 4
in that we will guarantee that this state is to be a republic state. Now, those officers have to be in the republic,
otherwise they are operating in violation. They are supposed to be also guaranteeing as they are a people of the republic.
They are to be guaranteeing that we have a republic form of government; in other words if they do not stand in there in the republic side,
then they are in a state of insurrection, and at that point you can charge them per the 14th amendment section 3.
Also for their intent to defraud, because they are claiming that they are in a valid government office, but they are not in a republic
government office. In other words, that is an offense to pretend, and that person can be charged at that point in time with insurrection,
and insurrection is an act of treason. BAR members cannot be in there. Any debtor cannot be in there. OK? That was one of the key things
about being a representative at the age of 25; you had to be debt-free to represent another person; you can't be in debt to somebody else
and give proper and just representation to another person because you will always be controlled by the one who controls you as being a debtor.
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This is simple; you guys just have to start waking up to it. Caller says: Another thing is the expatriation act: July 27th 1868.
If they deny us that, they are subject to pains and penalties under deprivation of rights and also 15 usc 1 and 2.
Right. Non-disclosure and intent to defraud makes any contract voidable; this is also addressed in the foreign state expatriation act of 1868.
We were looking at that slightly wrong in the process; it is our fictional person that must be brought out of the system.
We do that by having our non-ucc in the republic. A ucc cannot be filed in the republic because it is a commercial document.
A non-ucc can be filed in the republic but cannot be filed in the commercial world. See the difference between the use of ucc and non-ucc?
One is telling you that you are in the republic, the other is telling you that you are in the commercial world.
All the codes are in the commercial world.
Article 4 of the constitution is very big, starting with article 1 section 1: the gov. cannot give any money out, the banks cannot either.
They do not have any, and they definitely will not loan their money out if they did have any. Bankers are prevented from doing that.
So, who is the one that is funding everything in this country? We the people, because we are the ones that have full faith and credit
in the monetary system. It is our assets, our labor, our inheritance that we have credits that we put into circulation.
Caller says that democracy takes away the inheritance and that is why they wanted the democracy, to have the assets held in abeyance.
Democracy is just a type of governmental control that is in the babylonian system. That is what the declaration of independence was about,
to free ourselves; the colonists were under the control of the east india co. that was the babylonian banking system that was in place here.
King of England, he was basically just a stooge. ????? American broke away from the East India Co. by the declaration of independence.
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we wanted our right of our own monetary system as a free and just bartering system in the process. That is why we set up gold & silver standard
of so-many grams equals one dollar, then we got other nations to basically accept that value.
They had to standardize because they had many different coins floating around in the system all the way from the Spanish coins...
It is all out there especially in a lot of the statutes at large when you go through them you will see that.
But right now we need to come in showing our ownership using our non-ucc, that we are the owner.
We have to come in and modify these contracts, we will be doing a cancellation of the contract for liquidation.
We have the consent of the surety with the form 1414. 1416 addresses the contract trust payment bond.
See this babylonian bailment system under this contract trust is called the payment bond, and that is where all our original credits go
that were supposed to be paying for the item out here, but under non-disclosure of these contracts, we don't know how many credits
were really transferred; that is the fraud. And then they turned around and also used that; and we put labor value into the payment bond also.
It was not really going to pay for anything, it was used as collateral storage to support the contract trust performance bonds,
which were really the things that were making the payments. Their attempt is to try and get you to abandon the contracts,
then they can claim the payment bonds and also close down the performance bonds. 1418: perf. bond, 1416: pay. bond. SF30: contract modification.
These are GSA forms; the GSA was set up under Harry Truman in 1949. The FDIC was set up the same year that the country went into bankruptcy in 1933.
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In this babylonian banking system, you had to have insurance out here also. Banking and insurance go hand in hand.
Caller says: evidence that US is a massive insurance company, and one can bring a tort claim with SF95. Patrick says: do it afterwards in tort
if they don't bring this about, but you are going to come in as a bounty hunter surrendering your fugitives, because 
basically your fugitives have stolen your living identity and given it over to a fiction, to a piece of paper.
Then, with our credits, they are imposing restraints upon our rights of free trade in this country.
These commercial state criminal fugitives were created under this ucc contract trust scenario (babylonian banking system).
We have to come in and we surrender them because our fictional persons, our shadow, our republic shadow servant individual identity fugitives:
they have no body, so the instrument you have: the certificate of title to the vehicle, the certificate of marriage with your name on it,
that you gave credits to the state so that they could basically bond and give an assurance policy (that is what they were supposed to be doing),
but they have not done that because they renege on any payment; all these judges are just insurance adjusters but more crooked.
If an insurance adjuster can talk you out of something, then he will get a bigger payback when he gets back to the office; same thing with courts.
These guys are just shysters, pirates. See, we gave the credits per article 4, section 1, and that was authorized by law (the other part of section 1).
The law that authorized it was HR 192. These government people knew exactly what they had to put in, but they never told you the rest of the story
because they never gave you full disclosure of the contracts you were signing. Nobody in the republic needs a driver's license
nobody in the republic (if they own their vehicle outright) has to have their vehicle tagged by the state;
up until the early 60s all you needed was the pink slip on an automobile as proof that you owe that thing: "show me your pink slip, your bill of sale".
All of this other stuff: show me your DL, show me your cert. of title, show me your insurance.
What? Are these states all from Missouri or something (show me state)?
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Last Wednesday I went to the Federal Courthouse; they ran my ID through and I told them I wanted to see US Marshals.
One of the other guys that I had met with before also saw me and they said "get out of here", I said "I just want this stuff straightened out,
where is the finance center?" well it is at the federal building. I went to almost every office, did not need an escort; SS was not there.
I talked with the US trustee, had a good discussion with him; I said "I'm sorry if you get too many faxes from me". He said "no, I find them
sort of informational". I went up and I talked to the federal protection agency out of homeland security, one of the officers came out and had a good
discussion with him. I talked to small business admin., they did not have too much to say; I talked to the IRS. One girl supervisor came in:
some of this is patriot stuff, I said no none of this is patriot stuff; you better look at these documents, I gave her some documents about 13th-15th,
article 4 of the constitution and several others. I went for a few hours and went back home. On the way back realized I should stop at the AG's office.
When I was on my way into Des Moines, I had a cop following me for 2 and a half blocks; he had to see that my license plate was not Iowa license plate,
he saw not for hire, non-ucc, and foreign ambassador "in for and of christ the law", another sticker, and something else that was missing:
I had a sticker on there that said "no solicitation". That is the only thing that a cop does when they pull you over; soliciting you into a contract.
And see you can modify that; you can take those traffic tickets on an SF30 and modify that solicitation.
You turn around and you take that SF30 and the performance bond, the 1418 form, and you order them to set the payment off from those documents,
from that Driver's License on your traffic ticket. If you had an appearance bond you would turn around and do a draw using 1416 for the appearance value.
How would that work for someone with a CDL? Same thing; you have a driver's license; it is an insurance policy, a ucc contract trust;
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it has a payment and a performance bond associated with it. You gave credits when you got that CDL. It works with any license, they are all the same.
What did the government give you? Well, they gave you these forms but you did not know that because they never disclosed them to you.
But you really don't need it if you close the license down bc/ you really don't need a license unless you are working in the commercial world.
But if you are working in the private driving a semi, you don't need a license; that is private property.
If you have your stuff together, yes you will not get into any trouble for this.
Driving is not the same thing as traveling in your private conveyance. Farmers have semi trucks; they take grain to market.
Why would they need a license? They could load the grain on a wagon, hook that up to the tractor, and drive the same distance as the semi.
The semi has to have a license, the tractor and the wagon do not; so what is the difference? No difference when it really comes down to it,
you just have to understand what is going on and the fraud that these guys are perpetrating.
I said this before: when a man signs up for service, it was a 7-year contract: 18-25. Why 25? Because it is in the constitution
that at the age of 25, you were to be a representative; and I said that you cannot be a representative if you are a debtor.
You cannot represent somebody else if somebody else is controlling you. So, the contract for military service: in the military you are a debtor there.
They will ask you on your 25th birthday if you enjoy being in the service; they will not ask you "do you want to quit tomorrow?" because you can.
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I have told people this for 4 or 5 years now. Michael New: he refused to wear the UN blue; it was a trumped-up court martial
in the process, for media attention, but he got an honorable discharge; they could not charge him with anything it was all hush-hush and keep-quiet,
but as soon as his time was up he was honorably discharged. Patrick was in the military and had 1.5 years left and would have to extend for 1-3 years.
He was 28 years old at the time and said "screw this, I quit"; Patrick was out of there in 3 days, he had 2 honorable discharges for 8 years of service.
They could not hold me to those contracts because it is all voluntary; when initially in the country you have an obligation of 2 years of service
if called upon, but that does not mean you have to go to military combat duty, you can do your 2 years of service as a clerk or cleaner or etc.
if you are a conscientious objector. But, you do your 2 years of service and you have your title to the military bounty with the DD214.
That is what nobody understood: DD214 is a ucc contract trust; you have to terminate it. The DoD is using it as collateral for all of their weapons.
The DD214 is a very valuable document and it has been accruing interest. One of the last things that Kennedy did is transfer the military bounty
out of title 38 to title 46, it was one of the things that upset him bc/ he was always for the service man; he risked his life for his people.
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The interest on DD214 has been accruing. Caller asks about his reserve duty and working at the VA; Patrick says only the active duty is of relevance.
Since you are at home every night for reserve duty, it does not count. The entitlement really comes from the two years, that was what was required.
That is just one of the contracts; your birth certificate is a big one; it has been operating for your whole life.
Your SS account has been operating ever since you turned 18 (in most cases). There again, the contract was only supposed to be for 7 years (per the law).
The CoLB was only supposed to be for 3 seven-year contracts, until you turned the age of 21. This is all documented in the Bible.
When we turn in our fugitives, we will turn them into the Sheriff. He is the county chief law enforcement officer.
????? You have a document, which is a monument, for memorial, as a manifestation of recognition of our republic fugitive person.
And then it is per an account number. Now, our fugitive person: there is no physical body.
So, like in "Wanted: Dead or Alive", you have a document, you get several people to sign it to say this guy is dead.
Then the bounty hunter could take that document into the sheriff's office with the reward poster and say "here, here is my monument/memorial
as the manifestation of recognition of that fugitive person being dead". I went through this about 6 years ago with the IRS out of Atlanta, GA.
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Talked to one female who gave me to her supervisor; he gave me to her director; I said "Hey, this all-caps person that you keep sending here
that is a deadman, that is a tombstone name, I ranted and raved about that for 15 minutes, he said 'I see what you want, I will take care of it';
he had cincinatti send me an estate EIN for the social security account, I just did not know how to handle it back then."
He was telling me "yeah, that is a memorial document, that is a monument." National Treasure 2: Where did they go to find the lost city of gold?
The four presidents' monuments at mount rushmore. Caller had an honorable medical discharge. Patrick asks if caller has a selective service #?
You have to find out what your selective service number is; it is a ucc contract trust. They put so many credits in there,
to pay your transportation, clothes, food, etc; they did not pay it, you paid it out of your selective service ucc contract trust.
They just turned around and kept putting different numbers against that so they could use that in different processes.
Caller asks if I can get the DD214 replaced at the VA? You can get a replacement of medical/military records in St. Louis.
Tom had information about going to get your selective service number on the group. We have gone over this over the last several years
numerous times trying to tell people how to get this stuff. You go to the National Archives in St. Louis, you can do it online.
Another caller asks: When we go into the sheriff; do you think they will have any idea on this or do we need to educate and move up chain of command?
No, you are going to the sheriff, you are going to surrender these items; one of the things I put in there:
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"at this point I am invoking article 4 section 4 of the national constitution to guarantee the republic form of gov as the iowa republic,
and all violators will be charged with insurrection" then I drop down and I say 
"(republic) directions to the iowa republic state keokuk county sheriff". 
"by your signature on this letter you are giving your acceptance to my republic non-ucc ownership along with my republic status
as a republic bounty per the 1872 supreme court ruling and a republic state court officer, a Private Attorney General standing over the surrendering
of my iowa republic servient individual ??? signature monument manifestation document packages
as a valid coroner's death documents because the republic identity theft fugitives have no physical bodies to be found".
He cannot rebut any of that. And then he is directed to forward this up to the Keokuk county attorney. Because he is a Iowa republic state justice agent.
He is a justice agent for the Attorney General, the chief Law Enforcement Officer of the republic of iowa.
He takes these documents over to the county attorney and my direction to the county attorney is that he will take these documents
and have them immediately within 24 hours by a bonded carrier, deliver to the iowa state principal Law Enforcement Officer, 
the iowa republic state justice attorney general JAG officer. That is what Justice Attorney General stands for is JAG. That is all in the republic.
The one going to the attorney general states that he will process these documents, order the seizure of all in-state and out-of-state bailment assets
in the process. If he needs to, he will basically contact the US Marshals and have them go across the state lines and get the property
to bring back to my republic. One of the key things out here: who was Jesus? What was he known as? The Nazarene. That was the republic he was from,
the Republic of Nazareth. Bethlehem was in that republic; Jerusalem was not the republic, that was that capital.
Davy Crockett was known as "The Kentuckian" because that was the republic he was from; even though he went down and died at the Alamo.
He did not change over and become a Texan, he was still known as the Kentuckian. But you can order your assets brought back into the republic place
where you are presently living. 
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Almost all of these documents: SS account, Selective Service, Birth Certificate registration, Driver's License...
they all tell you what state those were issued from because they all had to come from the republic first.
They could not transfer the credits if they were standing in the commercial world, therefore you had to be standing in the republic
for the transfer of the credits to be made, then the credits were transfered over to this document and that fugitive went over into the commercial state.
That is the game. We have to basically come in and surrender our fugitives and order them to be brought back into the republic.
But per article 4 section 4 of the constitution, it states: "the united states shall guarantee to every state in this union
a republican form of government and shall protect each of them against invasion". The first seven words in the constitution tell you 
who the united states is. It is not the government, it is not the land. It is the people. That means per section 4, it should read:
"the people shall guarantee to every state in this union a republic form of gov and shall protect each of them against invasion".
That is why I put that statement in my document that is going out (when I get it finally finished here), stating:
"at this point I invoke article 4 section 4 to guarantee (I am doing this) the republic form of gov as the iowa republic
and all violators will be charged with insurrection". The gov is not doing this, I am doing this because I AM the united states,
because I am one of the people; the same thing holds with all of your state constitutions; you are the Iowan/Kentuckian/Californian/Texan, etc.
Caller asks: Is it the state where you were born? Or where you live? Where you were born; that is where you derive most of your minerals.
Your mother was not really your mother, she was a hatchery, gathering up minerals here and there and baking them as a loaf of bread.
Same with your father: he was a farmer. What did he do? He planted a seed.
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The father in your body that brought life to you is your spirit. It is the seed--the spirit that was in the seed, OK?
I will post this document once it is done.
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It did not say "Congress shall guarantee" or "the executive shall guarantee", it says "the united states";
The united states like I said, in the preamble, is we the people,
and it may only be one people out here that invokes this item like what I did in my document; I can invoke the republic
and they have to basically concede the republic to me. If not, they are outright stating that they are in a state of insurrection
and that they are in a state of treason. Caller asks if this is so just by their operating?
It is so just by their denying me my stance as being in the republic. I invoke my right of being in the republic, and if they deny it
then they are the ones that are in treason and insurrection, per the 14th amendment section 3.
Also, if this is denied... when I am coming in as a Private Attorney General, an officer of the court, they are now standing in contempt of court
because a private attorney general is a court officer. Article 3 addresses somewhere in there about court officers and contempt of court.
That is what all the judges and everything else try to imply, but if you stand in the republic, these guys cannot charge you with contempt.
See all of these judges in all of their courts, ask them: are you a republic judge or are you a fraud?
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Especially if you have a female judge in there, you know fully well that she is a total fraud, just like Hillary Clinton: total fraud.
How can you have somebody represent you if they are in bondage? And all women are in bondage because they are bound to an estate of a man.
Even though you might be single, divorced and out on your own, you are still under bondage back to your father's estate.
Understand the real law out here and not this babylonian fraudulent law out here that everybody thinks is the real law; it is not.
Caller asks: "are all statutes unconstitutional?" all statutes are basically there for the commerce of the country; 
all codes of law are for the commercial corporations of the country. 
The amendments are the only laws that basically can legally incarcerate a living person.
And that is only the first 15 american amendments or commandments, and the original ten commandments,
so there are only 25 laws that a republic citizen is obligated to; that is it! You don't need to know the codes of law or reference them;
those are not for you. They are for your fictions; that is why we can use 15 USC 1 & 2 because it is a bounty on the commercial person, our fugitive.
And basically he is in violation of BOTH section 1 and 2 as an individual. So how much is his bounty? 2 million.
The courts out here, when they bring a fugitive into their court system, they can only claim a 10%, but you as a republic bounty hunter
can claim the full 1 million per charge, and you can charge them under section 1 and section 2 BOTH.
So you just doubled up the bounty. Now the republic states can issue a republic debit card to you for those bounties.
It would be a draw against the perf. or the pay. bond of those contracts. Title 15 USC section 1 and 2.
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Section 1 is restraint of trade, section 2 is monopolization of trade; and then if the state does not comply, then you as a private AG can file charges
against them for $100 Million, and you would have to go in with the republic attorney general in the process. (They will not let that happen.)
What about federal charges? Same thing: you set them off with the SF30, 1414,1416,1418; you surrender the fugitive.
What instrument are they charging at the federal level? SS account? Yes. Yeah, surrender it! Surrender the birth certificate, say 
"here, I am going to surrender all of my national fugitives; I want to turn in all my state fugitives too; let's just go the whole ball of wax here".
Turn them over to that attorney that is in that court, say "here, I want these all adjudicated".
Now when you come in and you surrender these documents, these monuments, and you will come in as a private attorney general in the settlement
then you will be in probate of those accounts, of those contracts. People were wanting to use probate? Well here it is.
But you had to understand that these contracts when you surrender them are a memorial document, showing (the fugitive), as a death certificate,
as a coroner's death report also, because there is no physical body for these fugitives to be found.
Yeah, let's have a habeas corpus here; let's bring the body in; they cannot. And all these people that are in prison are in there under ?????
for these commercial charges. You have to surrender the REAL fugitive. 
Caller asks if we should go with others to see the sheriff? I don't know, are you scared of him?
Caller went into the IRS office about 3 years ago and he aggravated the regional guy so much; he had an appointment
they went into an office with a guy with a gun, it was like sitting with the mafia, they bullied and shut down caller (with guns pulled back),
caller says "I see how this is going to go, we are not following the law today", they said "you are right", and he left (they made him leave).
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If you stand in the republic, they cannot do anything to you.
See, all the stuff that they do: they try and get you to contract with them, the only way they can operate is by contract.
They are soliciting a contract from you; even the court is out there trying to solicit you to come into the court,
to give them recognition that they are a valid court--especially all these female magistrate judges and everything else--
they are in for a rude awakening, just like in Ireland right now they are starting to arrest the bankers.
It is not that far away that they are going to start arresting--if people start waking up out here--they will start arresting
a lot of these government people in office claiming they are a republic officer when they are not.
You cannot have a bar card and be (a republic officer) because a BAR card makes you a debtor so you cannot be
a representative of the government, even in a judge's position. How can you be a judge and be a debtor at the same time?
You can't, because somebody would always be behind you telling you which way to rule.
Caller says this whole thing is diabolical and goes back to the money-changers and ties in to the Bible and other things discussed by Patrick,
caller says thank you to Patrick, says to keep going because we are listening; caller is a Moor and indigenous.
Patrick says when the Hebrews went East, the Moors went to the West and the Ethiopians to the South.
Exodus of 3 in Egypt; everything comes in threes, and the great capstone of the pyramid that was the assets that belonged to the people.
The Hebrews went to the east but pissed moses off and he turned it into white powder and put it into the ark.
The ethiopians took it to Africa in the south, I think some of that went over to Indonesia (based on some of the reports that Patrick has).
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The Moors went on over and came into the caribbean and America.
We were put into the mixing bowl to become little loaves of bread, sometimes white wheat, sometimes brown wheat. What you eat is what you are!
We have the right to veto any and all laws out here that infringe on the republic.
And right now I veto the 16th thru the 27th amendments because they all infringe upon the first 15.
And you cannot have an amendment infringe upon a previous amendment; you can change a previous amendment if it goes through the proper channels.
But you cannot have another amendment change a previous amendment.
Caller asks about the first 15: did they include the people of color? Yes. There was no separation; there were black and indian slaveowners.
There was more servitude out of the Irish and other European peoples in this country than some of the black people,
and oftentimes they had worse conditions than the black people did. On a plantation, you will not harm your worker;
yes, there were some bad people out there but for the vast majority, you are not going to damage (your slave);
just like in the bible: killing 0-5 year old children? Nobody in their right mind would ever consider that
because then 20 years later you just have a boy in your workforce; it is illogical and does not make any sense.
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The people jump right on that over and over again, because some stinking minister told them that is what they had to believe,
and some nitwit wrote that down in the Bible, "well this is the way I see it", well he did not see it too well.
They were teaching false items in Jesus's time too: lawyers, teachers, doctors, lying for own gain and to control the people;
"by their works you can tell them" it says in the bible. Slow down and smell the roses and be aware of the thorns and the bees.
You have to use common sense in this stuff and that is what the vast majority have lacked in this country for all these years.
Don't rush into something; take your time, take a couple of deep breaths and then look at it again; you might see it in a slightly different
perspective and then see the answer staring you right in the face. Everything that I have been doing out here for years has all been in honor.
I have tried to stay in honor; I get mad at people but still am honorable in what I do.
I learned that from a very nice lady (who passed 3-4 years ago) Victoria Joy; that was her key thing: stay in honor.
Yeah there have been quite a few people that I have talked to over the years that are no longer here: Dr. Phil, Victoria Joy, people in various states
that have been giving me some inputs into some of this stuff, looking at it from a different perspective, they did not see the whole picture
or the way totally out of the thing but they knew a couple of small items.
But the whole thing is: you don't go after these guys, I will tell you right now; if you have any charges on any of these judges or anything,
stop it, terminate it, apologize for doing it; you take care of your fugitive and only worry about him right now.
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When you settle him, that surety, you will come out of the system, and you will have more assets than you know what to do with.
I strongly recommend that you have a private bank under your individual banker's EIN, or you set up a private estate and then
if you have a private estate or a private bank, you can turn around and set up a private charitable foundation
and have your private bank or your private estate be the overseer over those foundations.
Make it a charitable and educational foundation--private. Caller asks about "private bank"? You are not under state control;
the state cannot control a private bank; they cannot control an individual banker either; they can only regulate private bankers; read the definitions.
So we will open up a non-interest-bearing account under the individual banker's EIN? No, you will get a debit card from the republic treasury
either at the state level or the national level, it is going to be dealing with credits. How to do that?
What I am telling you here is to surrender these guys into the sheriff; you do a package on each fugitive: DL, CoLB, SSN, SSS, Voter's, Marriage...
all of these different things; your vehicle registration, that's a fugitive that went over and joined the commercial state.
You bring them back to the republic in the private. Daniel in the Book of Daniel: he stood his ground; he stayed in the republic.
They gave him all of his inheritance back. He closed down the contracts. Moses closed down the contracts. What did the Hebrews do,
or anybody that was listening to him (Ethiopians and Moors and everything else)? What did they do? They put a red cross on their door.
That cancelled the contract. Jesus: in roman law in Jesus's time; how did you cancel a contract? You crucified the contract;
you put a red cross on the contract. That is what we are doing here: we are cancelling these contracts using the SF30 modification form,
per UCC 2a section 505; you have the right to cancel any ucc contracts; you are the owner of these contracts
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but you are not the fugitive on the contracts. Do you need permission from the contractor to do this? No. Read ucc 2a-505.
But we pass this right up the line starting with our local chief law enforcement officer; giving our coroner's death documents in
to surrender our fugitives into him, then he has to process those up the line to the (republic) state attorney general.
And when you invoke your right of article 4 section 4, that you are going to guarantee the republic government, then they have to comply.
Caller asks: what if they don't comply? They WILL comply... You have to think positive; you have to believe that the truth will stand.
The problem is that most people never had the full truth, have been operating with half-truths.
Caller says: what he has been seeing through these processes is that when we knock on the door and tell them they must comply,
all they do is look like "I am not going to answer", and then we move on and knock on the next door (wrong door). But we went to 100 doors.
No, there was only really one door; we got off-target and tried to go to the federal; the federal is for interfacing with the states.
You have not been to the sheriff's office; you have not surrendered the fugitive.
Patrick has been saying that eventually we will have to go to probate court, but it won't be probate court the way you think of a probate court.
It will be you coming in as a PAG and the AG and you will be sitting down with the accountings and probating these contract trusts.
It will be with the US Marshals, Selective Service, and IRS; those will be the accountants that you will be dealing with.
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Caller asks: if we are coming in as the republic PAG, we have to come from our post of office, not regular mailing address. ?????
Patrick agrees, it all ties together; you have to have an address and proof that you are standing in the republic (on the land).
So right now we need to start the process to where we are standing on the land from our post of office when we fill out any of these forms.
Patrick says you really don't even need that when it comes down to it; you always were in the republic. You have never left the republic.
It is your fugitive that has left the republic. Caller agrees but is stating this so that we can have some correct dialogue.
Patrick says: That republic address (13 digits) is an add-on; you always as the living flesh and blood are in the republic.
Caller says: yes but for people to identify and make the clarification of the standing, you have to come from your post of office.
Yeah, and you make up your own ID card like the one I posted. I am standing and I am the eagle in the great seal; the eagle is in the republic.
When I mentioned that in Bankruptcy court when they thought I was threatening the judge, they stopped dead in their tracks.
When I mentioned that I was the eagle, I was basically telling that court that I was in the republic and they don't have any jurisdiction over me.
Caller says: same when I use my post of office, they stop dead in their tracks.
Patrick says: but to say "here is my post of office", it does not carry as much weight as using the word "republic".
Caller: Well, you add that "republic" to the address. 
Patrick: But when you address yourself, you are a republic bounty hunter, a republic non-ucc owner; you have your documents in the republic.
You don't say "my iowa post office" (documents), right? 
The fiction is falsely using your address claiming that he is in the republic but he is not. The address belongs to the land, the land is the republic.
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Another caller suggests not to use the word address when referring to living ones because it is a legal word (legaglese).
Patrick says an owner has to have a lawful address too. You stand as "I am an Iowa republic citizen (Iowan)", I am not a commercial STATE OF
or UNITED STATES commercial person; they have tried to get everybody to falsely use the name; you use Republic out here and they cannot override that.
Caller asks on a piece of mail how to identify that you are in the republic?
Are they going to send you to jail for a piece of mail?
Another caller says that if it passes through the legal postal system you want to differentiate it, like with zip in brackets/quotes.
No, you do not understand what the ZIP code is and that is a lie; the ZIP was only there to help the mailman get the mail through the system a bit faster.
Another caller says that the ZIP is now a district and territory according to their rules.
You put "Iowa Republic"; that is your address. You could also do it by doing the 13-digit number: IA-[9 digit ZIP]-US, now it is a 13-digit number.
13 digits is in the republic. 
Caller just wants the discussion of the key points so that we do not contradict selves by writing the wrong address.
They may say that you are standing in the republic but not using a republic address.
Patrick says "my address will use Iowa Republic", so I will stand in the republic. I have tried to address it. Use common sense.
Patrick said "Iowa Republic", that is your address.
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Patrick advises not to argue over this subject of "republic address", it is similar to other common misunderstandings...
Patrick says do not argue over the name, all capitals or lowercase or etc. or the "state" was changed in 1864 to set up the thing.
No, they did not; you can go to later documents and see that the state did not get changed until 1871, that is when the UNITED STATES
was copyrighted by the bankers out of england and that is when they started bringing in this false scenario,
but the state of iowa was not created until later on, so iowa state was not the one they were talking about in 1864,
and people argue this thing; there are shills out here that are putting out lies and getting people confused; it is too simple,
that is the problem; people want to make it more complicated; you have to read this stuff as a little child.
A little child (a five year old) could figure this stuff out a lot faster than a lot of you people could.
Caller says he was informed about federal building: looked for finance office, and the GSA popped up; the GSA office is in the federal building.
Patrick says the finance office is the secret service.
The secret service is basically over the enterprise financial management system (EFMS). What would be the finance office? The EFMS!
That is why when we submit these in, the secret service, they have every account listed in that EFMS.
And why are there secret service officers in each state capital? Not to protect the president.
The secret service was set up by Buchanan and Lincoln to basically regulate the monetary system in this country, SECRETLY.
To have controls over what they knew was getting ready to come down the pike, and they tried to pass laws to protect the people,
but the people could not see that the laws are there to protect us because they could not understand the laws (just like the constitution)
and everybody runs around thinking they know exactly what that constitution says, but from what I have tried to lay out here,
nobody really understood the whole scenario of what article 4 really does. 
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The expatriation act just added TO section 2 of article 4. The 14th amendment added to, gave additional clarification to section 2 of article 4.
The first 10 amendments, they all added TO the clarification in the first 7 words of the constitution, stating that we the people are the united states,
but it broke it out a little more in detail. The founding fathers basically had to implement those 10 amendments to help people understand better.
I think it was James Madison that he (Jefferson) had to get convinced of that.
Caller just was looking at Article 4 section 2 clause 1 (articles of confederation), and wanted to read clause 1 to the group:
"The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of the different States in this Union, 
the free inhabitants of each of these States, paupers, vagabonds, and fugitives from justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities 
of free citizens in the several States; and the people of each State shall free ingress and regress to and from any other State, 
and shall enjoy therein all the privileges of trade and commerce, subject to the same duties, impositions, and restrictions as the inhabitants thereof 
respectively, provided that such restrictions shall not extend so far as to prevent the removal of property imported into any State, 
to any other State, of which the owner is an inhabitant; provided also that no imposition, duties or restriction shall be laid by any State, 
on the property of the United States, or either of them."
Yeah, you have to read and understand; when it says "United States", it is referring to the people; the people have to give consent in the process.
All this stuff about eminent domain: the gov cannot come in and take that away from a united states person because it states about the united states:
you have to be able to give just compensation in the setoff. And that was covered in section 3, other property belonging to the united states.
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No, we stand in the republic and then we force the sheriff into his republic office capacity as the chief county law enforcement officer in the republic.
Then it goes from there to the county attorney. See, in the constitutions there is nothing requiring in the state constitutions
that a county attorney have a BAR license, but yet right when running for election of county attorney, they say "you have to have a BAR license".
Just like with the driver's license, but it is false; that is only in the commercial world; in the republic position you do not need a BAR license.
See, most people are not running in the republic positions; you have to force them into those positions, they have to vacate that other one
or else they are openly admitting that they are a fraud. Caller asks how would a person be considered a private attorney general?
Every male is classified as a private attorney general. So a female cannot be one? They should not be one, but if they are the sole heir,
like the daughters that lost their husbands in war and their fathers were dead, then it reverted to them to be the executor/executrix of the estate.
Now if they come in in that capacity, operating under the estate of a man, then they can basically be a private attorney general in that capacity.
See you have to look at the different scenarios and it is documented in the bible, and if you can reference those sections in the bible,
you have got them dead in the water; the constitution was really founded upon the just system in the bible, not the unjust.
Caller says her father is still alive and she does not think he can comprehend Patrick's process; how to go about exiting the system?
You just go in and surrender your items right now, coming in and addressing that you are under the protection of your father's estate.
You only need to reference the father's estate if you are going to be harmed; that is what several ladies down in texas did.
All that they did is say "I stand by the book of ruth" and shut up. The judge said they cannot do anything because they have no jurisdiction 
over a woman if she is standing under an estate, we have to go after the estate.
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When you surrender these fugitives into the court, it is not you that is on those court cases; it is sent out to your address,
you just have to find the document that has that name on it and now you take them into court; say "here i have the death cert.;
here is the coroner's report right here, he is dead; now, let's probate this account", and then you have your sf30, 1414,1416....
to where you are the owner (your non-ucc), that you are the owner of that contract and you can fire the contractor
and claim all of the bond assets that are left; just like you are building a house: you go out and you get a loan, money in your left hand;
now you go out and sign a contract with a contractor using your right hand; the money is still in your left hand.
You transfer so much over to the contractor so that he can start the construction of that project.
Well the first thing that he needs to do since it will be over $100k in the contract, he has to set up a payment and a performance bond.
That is the law that this commercial contractor has to comply with. But you are still in the republic. You are not in the commercial world.
So basically the contract that you signed is in the commercial world, but you are in the real world.
And then you find out that the contractor is paying somebody, double-dipping into the performance bond out here, stealing 2x4s or whatever,
you say "hey, this contractor is a thief"; you fire him and you terminate the contract, and you get everything that is left under those bonds.
You paid a deposit so you get your deposit and everything else back; it is that simple.
Caller says the fundamental documents are powerful, says to do a search for "the founder's constitution".
Patrick says there is some extra stuff in that, that is not the real constitution, that is extra writings and everything that were put in there.
It is a lot simpler than that. Section 2: "the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities
of citizens in the several states". That means that you have the right to travel in any state out here.
And basically you were supposed to be able to travel per the declaration of independence, that really was for North America.
And basically you did not need a passport or anything like that up until the 50s or something like that, to go across the border into Mexico or Canada.
This was all put in by the commercial world, by the secretary of state, so that the SoS could make money also.
Every passport is a passbook savings account; when you signed that passport you set up another UCC contract trust.
Why do you think Hillary Clinton wanted to be SoS? The one thing they have not looked at is how much money she ripped off from each passport ($100k each).
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This has been done numerous times over; look at some of the Secretaries of State we have had; they are ripping these things off right and left.
The perf. bond keeps building up at 5% per year, and it is being monetized at least 10 bonds per that value that they are using in the collateral
out of the payment bonds (as the collateral), and then they have a bond out here for $11M or whatever at 5% per 10 bonds, that is 50% return per year.
They are sucking money and where is this interest coming from? It is coming from the people buying the bonds! The foreign govs and everything else.
It is all a bank robbery! Caller asks about court date; she sent a letter, SF30,1414,1416,1418, put case number on them and told them
that they can take out anything that they need using those and to dismiss the case against the fictitious person.
Patrick: How about coming in under the 14th amendment section 4? Second sentence in section 4. Non-disclosure also; any contract or solicitation
is null and void if it does not give full disclosure of what is being solicited or contracted.
You come in standing in the republic and you make it well known and you surrender that document, "we are going to have this probated,
I am coming in as a private attorney general in this process, and judge & prosecutor you better be standing in the republic too"
"because if you are not in the republic then you are in violation of section 3 of the 14th amendment, standing in insurrection
and also perpetrating a fraud upon this court because you are not a republic constitutional officer."
Yeah, practice this. Be able to come in and just lay this stuff on them; when you stand and get a little mad and say "I am in the republic,
and you cannot charge me with contempt while I am in the republic because I can purge myself of any contempt you put out here".
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Criminal charges, per the constitution a criminal charge into a court action has to be brought by a grand jury.
When have you ever had a grand jury indict you for a criminal traffic ticket? They want to get the title of criminal charge on the docket
so if you do not claim to be the bounty hunter, they can claim that and get a 10% reward under 15 usc 1 & 2.
They did not do 15 usc 1 & 2 for our benefit by changing it from $100k up to $1m. It was not for our benefit; the people were not supposed to know.
It was for their benefit so that they could get another higher 10%; instead of getting $10k per court case, they can now siphon off $100k.
See? I am using common sense here. That is how you think in common logic. How can the thing work?
And then sort of like in the movie "Payday", the guy had to tear the computer apart and then re-construct it, and he tried to make it better.
But he first had to find out how it was functioning, then he could turn around and make it better.
That is the way they do it with cars: they built it this year but after it has been run several times, they find that it could have been built better.
Caller asks about bounty hunter: is every man a bounty hunter on the private side? Right, when you read the second section of article 4. OK?
"A person charged in any state... who shall flee from justice and be found in another state shall on demand of the executive authority of
the state from which he fled" You are in the republic state and you have executive authority per the supreme court ruling of 1872
as an executive bounty hunter; you are an executive based upon we the people of the united states. You are the executor over that constitution,
you are one of the people; so on demand of the executive authority of the state from which he fled; your fictional person fled the republic
and went over to this commercial fictional state, this babylonian state.
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And he is committing treason and other crimes; identity theft is one of the other crimes, treason and felony in restricting your right of free trade
of having the just credits given over to buy that house when you signed the contract; you gave the credits right then and there,
the bank had no money; you paid for that house right on that spot when you signed that document, you just did not know it.
But you had the authority under HR 192 to transfer the credits from the treasury to buy that house because that was part of your inheritance.
One caller tried to understand HJR 192 (HR 192), asks what is the focus of this law? Patrick says it goes back to article 1 section 4:
"full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts" when you signed the mortgage (or whatever) that is a public act;
"the congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts... shall be proved and the effect thereof"
so when they took gold and silver away from us, they left us only one recourse and that was credits from the treasury.
So we were able to come in and basically by our autograph transfer the credits from the treasury and the bankers can take that document
and draw the credits needed to settle that bill right there on the spot. Caller asks what to do at closing to indicate our expectations?
You say "hey, I am going to do this"; they will try to deny that you can do this; best time to do this is Friday afternoon when buying a car
because the county treasurer and recorder's office will normally be closed by the time you get up there, you say:
"I will take this up to the treasurer if required by law", it is not required in the republic; you refuse all commercial items like warranties, ads, etc.
The first thing you do is rip off the advertisement off of that vehicle. The cops will look for that; you are dead in the water with that ad,
so you are for hire even though you are not getting paid they are claiming you are for hire.
One caller has a friend with a new car business; he wants to go to him to acquire the new vehicle.
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Patrick says just get out of the system first then go down there with your credits to pay for the thing and say "I want the MSO, and
I will go up to the treasurer if required by law to pay any sales tax and to register this vehicle", and this is coming from the republic side.
See, I bought my vehicle under my private bank's name and my individual banker's EIN. So everything was in the private.
That is the way it says on my title: "Patrick Devine Private Bank E&T" is the owner of this vehicle; not me.
Caller asks if others have done the vehicle process besides Patrick. Patrick does not think so.
Caller asks if we need to apply for the Individual Banker EIN? Not needed right away; get the fugitives out of the way; 
you should have Estate and FGT EIN, you should (also) get that individual banker's EIN (later); he is working for your private bank.
You can put down just your initials and then say "private bank E&T (estate and trust)". I would go with E&T, and not put the word "trust" in there.
Try and avoid that word "trust" because that really is the babylonian system out here right now.
When you get your assets out, go and watch some movies about legacy, foundation, etc. One recent movie "the ultimate legacy" or something.
Then you start seeing these things about the foundation; if you keep it in the private then there is no taxes on this; this is a republic foundation.
But it is going to be controlled by my republic patrick devine private bank. And then we have our FGT EIN to where the private bank can turn around
and use that to draw from the de jure treasury if needed and also with the estate EIN to draw from the federal reserve bank for all of the entitlements
that we have that are being held in the federal reserve bank, like the 90% return on all the oil or gold that is drilled/mined in this country.
See there is a 90% holding that has to go to the FRB because that belongs to we the people; what is below ground has to support what is above ground
and that is one of the oldest universal laws there is.
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Caller says once we really understand this we really need to set up some foundations and legacies since it will be beyond our wildest dreams.
Yeah, start doing good; you will have more stuff than you know what to do with so start putting it out there in a charitable and educational capacity.
Get rid of it! The FGT EIN goes to the national treasury to transfer the credits out in the republic; you don't have to go through the bankers anymore.
You have direct access. Then if you get a church of rome EIN, you can go against the bank of rome for the world assets.
It is all there; our forefathers left it for us; it is all your inheritance, why not claim it and put it to use and stop fighting these wars?
The bankers are using it right now; the Rothschilds, Bill/Hillary, Bushes, all these guys that are out here harming everybody,
telling everybody that you can't smoke pot, have guns, do this or that, and if you do we will throw you in jail.
They are running drugs, bringing opium and everything else into this country; shut it down! Give people something worth living for and then basically
they will not turn to the drugs and extramarital sex and everything else that is going on.
If your wife is not hounding you constantly about something and you come home and say "i don't want to go home because all I will get is a nagging wife".
Well, if you knock some of that stuff off and start enjoying life, you might be able to enjoy each other, now if she still sets that up, throw her out!
There are more women out there than there are men; that is a known fact.
One caller had a friend who has a question: friend is undocumented but has a business, needed an ITIN, bought house with cash money but he has to pay
$5k in taxes each year on his house; for his business he does not know how to cancel the ITIN to transfer it to his 98 EIN or so that he can get paid
through his business. 
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Patrick says you have to turn around and sell that business over to a private enterprise. With private enterprise there is no #.
When you do this you cannot be operating in the commercial world. Caller asks if he can do a bill of credit on the annual taxes?
He needs to take that in and modify the contract, (sf1414,sf30) that the surety is to pay this out of the perf. bond
and then send that back to the contractor and tell them they have 3 days to sign that.
Another caller had a friend who was getting credits from the treasury and was doing everything correct, not withdrawing as cash.
What the SSA did was a publication because they could not find him; they renegotiated the contract back therefore slamming his new agreement,
when he tried to amend his agreement with the SSA they said we are not in our power because that is our employee.
So when they came down and said we renegotiated the contract I said no you hit the wrong party, I took my trust indenture to federal court
I said that the indenture on the table was a proper instrument because there was a choice of law on the indenture, I got them for breach of contract
then they tried to come back as counterclaimants that he is the united states employee but it was stated colorably, that we had first jurisdiction
when he was 13 he did not turn it in within 13 days, so they tried to get us for piracy because we took it from the united states.
The magistrate knew better but he was trying to help them, so I tried to do a case audit because every order is money/credits.
So my question is: how do we negotiate it in such a way outside of a foreign trust where we would have a choice of law; 
if we were to just do the constructive trust to make that claim, how else could we have held our contract if we did not have that trust?
You don't want a trust. Right, but in this scenario it gave relief but what about outside that trust?
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It never worked for you because you did not use the 1414, SF30 and a non-ucc filing in the republic side showing that you are the owner of that contract,
and even the SSA in their pamphlets, it says "you are the owner of this account", but you are not the fiction/fugitive/surety on the account;
you are the owner, so you have to come in as the owner; the name on the account is a shadow person and he is a dead man with no physical body.
So that SS card is your monument, your coroner's document, so you come in and you have the right to terminate any contract at any time whatsoever,
you terminate it and you claim all the credits that are under bondage in the process out there, but you submit your non-ucc,
you submit your ss card endorsed, that you are endorsing this for full closure and settlement, then put the SF30, SF1414 as owner over the surety
then put the sf 1416 for pay. bond full liquidation and (1418) for perf. full liquidation, and you notify them you will be coming in as the PAG
in any adjudication of the probating action of this contract.
Caller asks if we need an EIN to be a PAG? No. In the republic really we do not need any EINs.
We use the 98 EIN as a transfer agent in the republic, and the same thing with our Estate EIN; that is a republic estate transfer.
See it does not say trust; the only reason why the FGT is there is bc/ when we draw the assets out of the nat'l treasury it has to be converted
into the babylonian monetary monopoly money. That is the only thing that would make any sense (as to) why they would have FGT in there,
because it is really being converted into the babylonian money system; you are drawing so many credits out of there and they are being converted over
so if you went in for $17k, it was really $1k (silver dollars) that you were drawing out of the treasury.