Ndị ọzọ n'oge bu ndi ilo nke Plato buwo Ngwooruvi (Materialist), Nkpurivi (Atomist) Democritus, onye ahaọma-ni Plato ledaworo ukwuu nke ọ ga-anakọta dị ka ọtụtụ n'ime ọrụ nwere ji kpọọ ha ọkụ, na Diogenes nke Sinope, ma ọ bụ Diogenes na Cynic, onye Plato na-akpọ ""otu Socrates puwo ara"", na onye, kọrọwo-ni, mgbe Plato gwara Diogenes na ọ gaghi eji aka ya asa onwe ya akwọnriba (salad) ma ọ bụrụ na ọ mụtara e nyewo Daịọnisiọs nsọpụrụ , zaghachiri na, ọ bụrụ na Plato mụtara na-asa ya onwe ya akwọnriba, ọ ""ga-enweghị-abụ ohu nke Daịọnisiọs.