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### Human: No, you're all right.### Assistant: The fact that I can't see in, so if I was to see a shadow, it wouldn't-- it wouldn't like scare me a bit, so that's why I unplug the nightlight, and-- |
### Human: Because that would decrease you feeling scared because it's too dark to see anything.### Assistant: Yeah. I think that someone's there, but if I can't see the shadow, it doesn't make me-- because I don't think someone-- because when I saw the shadow, I think someone's there and that makes me awake again. |
### Human: So by keeping it dark, you don't see a shadow that used to worry you, "What if someone's there?"### Assistant: And that's what the problem was, and then I put the nightlight on and it seems like-- was a rock for ages, and then sort of started moving into light and I could start seeing things, even with the light on. Yeah, start seeing shadows. |
### Human: Because the light was there to help with seeing the shadow initially, wasn't it? Yep.### Assistant: Yeah, so I didn't see any shadows and I had the thing and the fact could someone be there. But now it's sort of like, "Yeah, I can see the shadows, I'm seeing things," so it was a bit hard, so I unplugged it. |
### Human: When did you unplug it?### Assistant: Before I left for Thailand. A few weeks before that. |
### Human: Yep. And you're finding-- because you say it's easy to get to sleep, so you don't see a blur or anything or hear anything else?### Assistant: Not at the moment because I'm so tired and I still am physically drained from being sick. |
### Human: And are you hearing any sounds at the moment? Say in the last week?### Assistant: I still am, but sort of not-- so tired it's sort of not-- it's like, "Yeah, I can hear it." So like that. I still have problems because I have to go the toilet. |
### Human: Yeah. How do you go, needing to the go to the toilet in the middle of the night?### Assistant: I sort of hold on and then go to sleep, but I do wake up because I have an infection in my ankle coming back from Vanuatu. |
### Human: How'd that happen?### Assistant: I ended up falling through a hole in concrete and got a little scrape and it was fine until the Sunday morning when I came back and it's going through. I've had antibiotics. It doesn't hurt to walk on it anymore, so I've been drinking a lot of water because it's been taking a lot out of me, and that's adding-- |
### Human: So that would add on into--### Assistant: And I needed to really go and I'm like, "I can't hold it or I'm going to piss myself in bed," so I had to get up and I went into the thing and I put it on lock and it was sort of looking back, and-- |
### Human: Was this in Vanuatu or home?### Assistant: No, it was just as home. And yeah, so I got-- went to bend and then-- so I went to the toilet and then I opened the door with the light on and then quickly turned it off and then ran. And again, leaving the door open. This was like 7:00 o'clock in the morning, still pretty dark, and-- actually, it was probably about 6:00 in the morning or something like that. Even earlier then that because I know this is the time I had to wake up to go to hospital to get X-rays and bloods done and that sor |
### Human: That makes sense you'd go to work to get that done.### Assistant: Yeah. So I don't know when-- |
### Human: That would have been?### Assistant: Yeah, it was probably around 5:00 o'clock because it was still really dark and I heard a creaking noise, so I still didn't go to sleep. Was my point really. So I've got to wake up anyway, so I stayed awake and I started hearing the creaking of the toilet door because I didn't close it properly. |
### Human: And where do you think that comes from that you have that-- you freak out with, "Is someone in the house?"### Assistant: I have no idea. |
### Human: Because you spoke a while ago saying that hearing sounds-- because you used to hear Mum and Dad arguing maybe.### Assistant: Yeah, sort of frightened me, that sort of stuff. Yeah, it could be. I don't know. I really don't know what the thing is. |
### Human: And you've never been broken in to or someone you know that's been broken into the house before?### Assistant: People that you know have been broken into, I think, while they were sleeping or something, either in a room or someone else. |
### Human: How old were you then?### Assistant: This was not long ago, to be honest. Before that, I had no idea. |
### Human: And that was happening before?### Assistant: I didn't know anyone who had been broken into. |
### Human: Just wondering if it maybe happened and that's where that piece come from, and it might not be.### Assistant: I reckon it's from the video games I play. |
### Human: What do you think?### Assistant: I know that video games don't do it. |
### Human: That's Mum's hypothesis.### Assistant: I sort of know video games do and they're not real. The fact of someone being there, or-- yeah. I don't know where it comes from. |
### Human: What do you worry about with someone being there?### Assistant: Just someone being there watching and being in the house when-- and that sort of thing. It's a bit weird. |
### Human: And why do you think someone would be in the house?### Assistant: No idea. Just something that exactly doesn't feel right. |
### Human: Like you go, "What if?" Do you feel someone would be in the house? Is there a greater chance they would or wouldn't be?### Assistant: So like the fact that they could be, but they're sort of not. |
### Human: Yep. You know that there's a greater chance there wouldn't be someone, but you really can focus on the what if someone is here.### Assistant: Yeah. It hasn't happened, but it's just sort of a thing that could be. |
### Human: And then you lay the plan to put in a lot of place to keep safe with the nightlight, turning it on, having the door closed, yep?### Assistant: Yeah, make sure windows shut, that sort of thing. Curtains closed. There's no one at the window, if there was. Keeping doors around me shut so there's no way getting in around me. Yeah, that sort of thing. |
### Human: And how would you like your sleep to look? How would you like things to look like?### Assistant: Just sit down to bed and go straight away. |
### Human: Strange question, yeah.### Assistant: Yeah, so just for me to hop in bed and go to sleep straight away. That's something. |
### Human: Yep. And that's been happening the last week. Is that what'd you say?### Assistant: It's been happening the last few days. |
### Human: Last few days, yep.### Assistant: Yeah, because I've been so tired. |
### Human: But then, when you're not as tired, which you said if you don't play as much sport, then it's not?### Assistant: Yeah. If I'm not physically tired, it's a lot harder to fall asleep because I'm still awake-ish. |
### Human: And have you thought-- we have it down here, if you hear a sound, you say to yourself, "It's nothing." Has that helped, or have you tried that, or not really?### Assistant: Part of me, I sort of try to get up and see what it is, but certainly it's kind of the door, that sort of thing. |
### Human: Does that help?### Assistant: And trying to do that sort of does, but it's whether or not I can get myself to do it and get out of bed to do it because normally I freeze in bed and I sort of go, "It's nothing. Go away." And I've been trying to get up to make sure that I know that, "Yes, there's no one there, there's nothing happening," that sort of thing, so. |
### Human: So you're kind of double checking.### Assistant: Yeah. |
### Human: Is that helpful doing that?### Assistant: Hasn't happened-- I sort of can't get the courage to get out of bed to look at it. I have a few times, just gone to the door, peeked through, opened it a bit and looked through, and then ran straight back into bed, but nothing-- it hasn't really helped at all. |
### Human: Does that make you feel more stressed?### Assistant: Sort of the fact that yeah, sort of know that they're not there around me, but it's whether I can even work up the courage to even go to the door and even walk out to even check, yeah. |
### Human: And do you feel that would be helpful if you were doing that every night? Would that make sleep harder, do you think?### Assistant: Oh, that can make sleep a bit easier because I know that no one's there. Sort of trick myself into that, "There's no one there, so there's really no need to bother," that sort of thing. |
### Human: Tricking yourself?### Assistant: Yeah, I guess. |
### Human: What's another word we can use?### Assistant: I don't know. |
### Human: I don't think you're tricking yourself.### Assistant: I'm really not, I'm just making sure that no one's there. |
### Human: Yeah. So you're kind of challenging the way you're thinking?### Assistant: Yeah. |
### Human: Yeah. Doesn't sound like you're trying to trick you brain, it sounds like you're trying to tell your brain it's okay. Is that something you think you could try, or is there something else we can think of?### Assistant: No, I'd just give it a shot. |
### Human: Yeah?### Assistant: Yeah. Like I said, I've tried to do it a few times, but it's been with the courage to get out of bed. |
### Human: So what would stop you from getting out of bed?### Assistant: The noises or the fact that someone could be, so there's no need to get out of bed, just stay in bed. |
### Human: So you're safer if you're in bed?### Assistant: Yeah. |
### Human: Yep. So does that really mean you would get up and check then?### Assistant: Yes. Sort of like the fact that there's no need to get out of bed because you hear a noise, you're all right, but if you stay in bed, it might go away or nothing will happen, that sort of thing. |
### Human: So would you rather stay in bed or get up? And what I'm doing here is problem solving with you to go--### Assistant: Getting up would help for me to go, "Yeah, there's no one there, so there's no need to worry," and that sort of thing. |
### Human: Yep. So is that something you think you could try for maybe a few days and see if that changes?### Assistant: Yeah. |
### Human: Yeah? How many days do you think you could try it, say from today and the next time I see you?### Assistant: I guess try as much as I can. |
### Human: Yep. How often is that?### Assistant: I don't know. |
### Human: If you make the goal more specific, it's more achievable. And really stick.### Assistant: I don't know, two to three times. |
### Human: Two to three times, yep. Any particular day do you think could be more realistic?### Assistant: Try at least every day maybe. |
### Human: Yep. You said two, three--### Assistant: Two or three days. |
### Human: Yep. So you're going to try two to three times. At a particular day you will try? Or is more likely one day than another? It's lot to think about, isn't it?### Assistant: Yeah. I don't know, actually. |
### Human: Or is it we try you being in bed and being able to calm yourself, that's next steps, or? Totally your choice. How about if you're more comfortable going to sleep, and then when, if you wake up, you feel more comfortable going back to sleep.### Assistant: I don't know. I don't know specific day. I have no idea. |
### Human: Is it days that you play-- are you playing footie at the moment? So you've got your ankle--### Assistant: I didn't play last Sunday, but I will be all right Wednesday. |
### Human: For tomorrow? Yep.### Assistant: And hopefully Sunday. |
### Human: Yep. So the infection's all good?### Assistant: Yeah. |
### Human: That's good to hear.### Assistant: A bit painful around the sore, it's cold and I can run in football boots, that sort of thing. |
### Human: Yeah. And do you have a plaster or something over?### Assistant: No, it's just a Band-Aid over it. |
### Human: Yep. So what could help with sleep? Doing something that's not too hard, but you can challenge yourself a little bit to see if that could change sleep?### Assistant: Just going out to check that. That's the only thing I could think of. |
### Human: But you also say that--### Assistant: If I hear a sound. |
### Human: You're also saying that could be really hard to do, to build up the courage to double check. It's not easy to do a plan.### Assistant: No, it's not. |
### Human: I can see you're deep in thought going, "What will work?" Because you've said you've been trying and you do it most nights to say, "It's nothing," but that doesn't really calm you, does it?### Assistant: Yeah. It doesn't. |
### Human: Anything else you could either say to yourself or do, do you think?### Assistant: Just turn my back to the door and try to fall asleep again. |
### Human: Have you tried that before?### Assistant: No. I always try to think of things. |
### Human: Yeah. Let's write all the things you've thought of down. So there was turn back to door, get up and check, courage to do, maybe-- any other ideas?### Assistant: Not really. |
### Human: You can try, I'm wondering. If we write these 1 to 10 of how difficult it is to do, how hard is it to say to yourself, "It's nothing." From 1 to 10?### Assistant: Not really hard. |
### Human: Pardon? Not hard. So how would you write it with 10 being really easy, 1 being really, really hard.### Assistant: 10. |
### Human: 10, yep. That's 10 out of 10.### Assistant: Just basically just saying, "It's nothing. Don't worry about. Just go back to sleep." |
### Human: "Don't worry about it. Go back to sleep." And turning your back to the door, getting up and check, what's easier to do?### Assistant: Turning my back to the door. |
### Human: Out of 10, how hard is it? Or how easy is it to do?### Assistant: 10. |
### Human: 10, yep. 10 out of 10. So that's the easiest, and then that. And if you turn your back to the door and you're still feeling stressed, what could you do?### Assistant: I guess go out and check. |
### Human: Yep. How hard is that out of 10.### Assistant: About 4 or 5. |
### Human: 4 or 5, yeah. 4 or 5 out of 10. Could that be an idea, you start with saying it to yourself, turning your back, and then seeing how you go with getting up?### Assistant: Yep. |
### Human: And we can wait to see how hard it was to do? Does that really stick?### Assistant: Yeah. |
### Human: Anything else you'd want to add or change, or you go, "No, that's not going to work."### Assistant: Nothing. |
### Human: So we can do like a bit of an experiment to see which of these work, and if something helps more than another, we can add a few things. We've kind of created the easiest thing to do and then the hardest because you say you do that already and it's really easy to do, but you can still get caught up with, "Is someone in the house?"### Assistant: Yep. It's nothing that I'd change. |
### Human: Is that helpful, doing that?### Assistant: Yeah. |
### Human: Writing it down. Do you want me to re-write it so you've got a copy, or you think you've got it?### Assistant: I think I'll be all right. |
### Human: Yep. So what are the three things you'll do?### Assistant: Say to myself, "It's nothing. Don't worry. Just go back to sleep," try to get back to sleep. If not, turn my back, and if still not, see if I can get up to check. |
### Human: Yeah. And we can check in and see how often you did the three and what was helpful, what wasn't, and replan it next time. How's that sound?### Assistant: Good. |
### Human: Good? Have you been using this before? Do we need to redo this, or is it about the same, or is there anything?### Assistant: I don't think we will redo it until the half and half comes in. |
### Human: Yep. It's staying the same for now.### Assistant: Yeah. |
### Human: And footie's still the same days?### Assistant: Yep. |
### Human: Yep. I was wondering if it had changed.### Assistant: It's coming up to the end of football though, but. |
### Human: And do you play another sport in summer?### Assistant: No. |
### Human: Why did I think you played cricket in summer?### Assistant: I don't know. |
### Human: I just decided that you do.### Assistant: No, I don't play cricket at all. I just play football. |
### Human: I don't think you've ever told me that you, but some reason, I thought you played cricket. I don't know why. Maybe it's just my association, football's in winter and cricket's in summer. It doesn't mean that you'd be playing it.### Assistant: No, I only do football. There's not really a different sport that I do. |
### Human: Did you do some hockey at school. In your last term maybe?### Assistant: No. I did that in the summer. |
### Human: But not really a thing you do?### Assistant: No, that's only for school. Something just for school. |
### Human: Yep, that's what you were saying. Maybe I've got hockey and cricket confused and they're very different sports. And how have putting in the homework-- because you were saying that was tricky and I know you've been on holidays for a while.### Assistant: Yeah. I really haven't had any homework for the past few days. |
### Human: You wouldn't have, you've been on holidays, yeah.### Assistant: But when I get back to school, I got to start getting back into the swing of things, yeah. |
### Human: And where we had it, does that look like it'd be the same, or is it more-- you're just going to wait and see?### Assistant: I don't know what it looks like. This looks like what I do, yeah. |
### Human: Well, we can have a relook at that next time. Does that sound good? And do a bit of the plan with sleep?### Assistant: Mm-hmm. |
### Human: Anything else you wanted to chat about today?### Assistant: Not really. |
### Human: I think we've covered it pretty well. And have you got a session with Mum coming up with this? Mum spoke with you about that? Whilst you stare at me blankly.### Assistant: No, I don't-- no idea about that. |
### Human: Okay. So Mum had booked in a family session for you and me with her in a few weeks.### Assistant: I hope not. |
### Human: Mum hasn't spoken to you about that yet?### Assistant: No. |