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Holidays for freshrpms.net :-)
Hi all,
I'll be leaving this evening until next Monday, with no access to
whatsoever to a single computer until then, woohoo, real holidays! :-)
So don't be worried if there's a new release of <insert your favorite
freshrpms package here> and that it's not updated quickly despite your many
requests to the list ;-)
Before going, I did repackage the latest hackedbox and lbreakout2 that both
came out today.
Have fun! (I will!! ;-))
Matthias
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Re: Holidays for freshrpms.net :-)
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 12:39, Matthias Saou wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'll be leaving this evening until next Monday, with no access to
> whatsoever to a single computer until then, woohoo, real holidays! :-)
I don't think I could take it. The network was down for an hour here and
I was climbing the walls. :)
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Re: Holidays for freshrpms.net :-)
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:39:07 +0200
Matthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:
> Before going, I did repackage the latest hackedbox and lbreakout2 that
> both came out today.
>
> Have fun! (I will!! ;-))
fun here too, recompiled gnome 2.02rc2 today ;-)
Have a nice and good time!
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Re: Holidays for freshrpms.net :-)
Once upon a time, Chris wrote :
> On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 12:39, Matthias Saou wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'll be leaving this evening until next Monday, with no access to
> > whatsoever to a single computer until then, woohoo, real holidays! :-)
>
> I don't think I could take it. The network was down for an hour here and
> I was climbing the walls. :)
I can't stand it either when it's at work or home and I'd planned on doing
something that required network access... but I really feel like I need a
break now, away from work pressure that almost drove me nuts all summer!
Ah, the joys of responsibilities... :-/
Six days without computers ahead, but six days driving my 600 Bandit
roadster bike! I won't be miserable nor get bored, don't worry for me ;-)
I also have the first Lord of the Rings book to finish (half way through
now) and the two others to read... lots of "sane" and non-wired occupations
ahead!
Oh, did I mention beer drinking with friends? :-))))
Matthias (really happy to be on holidayyyy for the first time this year!)
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REQ: Beast/BSE
http://beast.gtk.org
There's a realy nasty shortage on sequencers :(
(Actually I'd like this running on my main box, which is Irix but that
I'll probably try to tackle myself :)
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New testing packages
Hi,
Just the kind of announce I make once in a while :
- I've rebuilt a new "alsaplayer" package based on Angle's one.
- I've rebuilt a hopefully final version "-fr8" of the "alsa-driver" and
"alsa-kernel" packages which fix all known SMP build issues.
Both can be found here :
http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/testing/alsa/
I've also repackaged gkrellm 2.0.2 with at last a separate package for the
server that can be installed standalone and doesn't even require glib2.
http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/testing/gkrellm/
Last but not least, my latest proftpd 1.2.6 package incorporates some nifty
new features : You can use any of "--with ldap", "--with mysql" and "--with
postgres" when rebuilding the source rpm with rpmbuild to enable desired
extra authentication methods and all package requirements are set
accordingly, and the release tag is changed too.
http://valhalla.freshrpms.net/ (the usual place ;-))
I think I'll use this "--with <whatever>" switch more and more where
possible. Some other of my package already use it like the xmame for its
output targets, sqlrelay for its modules and my latest sylpheed claws spec
to enable Pilot support.
As usual, feedback and comments are welcome! :-)
Matthias
PS: Yup, I'm back from my holidays ;-)
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Re: New testing packages
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 17:50, Matthias Saou wrote:
> I think I'll use this "--with <whatever>" switch more and more where
> possible.
Nifty, I've been thinking about that too. Any good ideas how to
document those targets? %description?
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Re: --with ...
Greetings ...
> PS: Yup, I'm back from my holidays ;-)
I hope you did not miss us at all ... ;-0
> I think I'll use this "--with <whatever>" switch more and more where
> possible.
Mmm, great stuff ... Now to get the RedHat Samba packager to do the same
thing ...
I have used there spec file and fun a few problems in it, and one of them
was just hashing out things for other use ...
Now to get to grips with the Kernel ... still have not found and easy way to
rebuild the Kernel without having to wait and hour for it to generate the
headers for all arch ... arrrrhhhh ...
Mailed
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Once upon a time, C.Lee wrote :
> > I think I'll use this "--with <whatever>" switch more and more where
> > possible.
> Mmm, great stuff ... Now to get the RedHat Samba packager to do the
> same thing ...
I'm sure that if you file a bugzilla entry with a relevant patch against
the spec file, chances of getting the change done are on your side ;-)
> I have used there spec file and fun a few problems in it, and one
> of them was just hashing out things for other use ...
>
> Now to get to grips with the Kernel ... still have not found and
> easy way to rebuild the Kernel without having to wait and hour for
> it to generate the headers for all arch ... arrrrhhhh ...
The problem is that "--with <foo> --without <bar>" is clearly not meant to
change deeply the way a package is built. Its use would be more like
enabling/disabling gpg, ldap, whateversql support in packages as it's not
possible to use something like "--with-<foo>=<bar>" which could be used for
a much wider scope.
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Re: New testing packages
Matthias Saou (matthias@rpmforge.net) wrote*:
>- I've rebuilt a new "alsaplayer" package based on Angle's one.
Cool, one less package to maintain :)
One interesting thing about alsaplayer is that RedHat's XMMS package in RH8 will
probably not play mp3 files. But alsaplayer does play mp3s "out of the box".
Also, they are developing rapidly in their CVS and looks like their next version
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sylpheed-claws
Have you thought of bumping up sylpheed-claws? I see sylpheed got a
bump... show some claws love? (;
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Angles Puglisi (angles@aminvestments.com) wrote*:
>Also, they are developing rapidly in their CVS and looks like their next version
>of alsaplaer will be pretty cool, but I have no idea when it will be ready.
ahh, oops they just released. -/
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Re: sylpheed-claws
Once upon a time, Jesse wrote :
> Have you thought of bumping up sylpheed-claws? I see sylpheed got a
> bump... show some claws love? (;
Well, in sylheed's "claws" branch you need to wait a bit for the developers
to backport all the updates from the main branch before getting a release
with the same version number.
Right now, the latest "claws" release is still 0.8.2claws :
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25528
But as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon as it's
updated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-)
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Re: Should mplayer be build with Win32 codecs?
Hi,
has anyone an answer for me? The mplayer documentation still suggests to use
them for x86 architectures.
Thanks. :)
Regards, Axel.
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 11:39:03PM +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> Are there perhaps licensing issues, which forbid such a practice? Or any other
> reasons?
>
> The reason I ask is that I have seen performance and also some feature
> differences (fullscreen w/o keeping aspect ratio, visual artifacts on NVIDIA)
> comparing with or without the Win32 codecs. The mplayer authors seem to
> recommend using them for x86 architectures.
>
> Beware, I am no mplayer/codecs/whatever expert, I may be totally lost ...
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Re: Should mplayer be build with Win32 codecs?
Once upon a time, Axel wrote :
> has anyone an answer for me? The mplayer documentation still suggests to
> use them for x86 architectures.
Well, I think my avifile build still needs the win32 codecs to be able to
run (manually copied into /usr/lib/win32/), but personally, I've been very
happy with mplayer's default (which is ffmpeg's ffdivx decoder) for nearly
all the DivX files I used. The only ones that still require (from my own
experience) the use of the win32 codecs are the ones encoded with a strange
DivX 3 sound format... and I've really not seen any quality or speed
improvements when using them.
Matthias
> On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 11:39:03PM +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > Are there perhaps licensing issues, which forbid such a practice? Or
> > any other reasons?
> >
> > The reason I ask is that I have seen performance and also some feature
> > differences (fullscreen w/o keeping aspect ratio, visual artifacts on
> > NVIDIA) comparing with or without the Win32 codecs. The mplayer authors
> > seem to recommend using them for x86 architectures.
> >
> > Beware, I am no mplayer/codecs/whatever expert, I may be totally lost
> > ...
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Re: New testing packages
BTW: I just a found a quite nice looking apt repositry for all kinds of
audio apps at
http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
Peter
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 23:28, Angles Puglisi wrote:
> Matthias Saou (matthias@rpmforge.net) wrote*:
> >- I've rebuilt a new "alsaplayer" package based on Angle's one.
>
> Cool, one less package to maintain :)
>
> One interesting thing about alsaplayer is that RedHat's XMMS package in RH8 will
> probably not play mp3 files. But alsaplayer does play mp3s "out of the box".
>
> Also, they are developing rapidly in their CVS and looks like their next version
> of alsaplaer will be pretty cool, but I have no idea when it will be ready.
>
> --
> That's "angle" as in geometry.
>
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Re: sylpheed-claws
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:40:55 +0200
Matthias Saou <matthias@rpmforge.net> wrote:
# But as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon
# as it's updated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-)
It got updated (;
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Re: bad focus/click behaviours
I need to experiment with ripping out all my "sophisticated" cut/paste
code. This is mostly historical accident from dealing with very early
versions of Tk, and the emacs "cutbuffer", and other wierd junk.
You can, too, by hacking upon seditBind.tcl appropriately.
>>>Hal DeVore said:
>
>
> >>>>> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, "Tony" == Tony Nugent wrote:
>
> Tony> I can't even mark text in an exmh message window and then
> Tony> paste it into a terminal window, the cut buffer seems to
> Tony> be completely empty (and its previous contents are no
> Tony> longer there either).
>
> Brent confessed recently that he had tried to subvert the X
> model(s) of copy and paste. Not in those words... but that
> was how I read it. ;)
>
> I have a lot of trouble copying and pasting from or to exmh
> across a VNC link (from things in the vncviewer to things not in
> it and vice versa). As long as I stick to apps being "normally"
> displayed on my X server I don't have much of a problem.
>
> My recollection from my X programming days is that the X model,
> like everything in X, is more complex than the human brain can
> handle. It also is very different from the MS-Windows model.
> And I get the feeling that Tk tries to "unify" those two models
> and fails. Not sure what the exmh-specific contribution to the
> confusion is, frankly.
>
> --Hal
>
>
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Re: bad focus/click behaviours
It's all here in these 10 lines, otherwise known as the
"I'll try my damnest to paste something" procedure:
# Return the current selection (from any window) or cut buffer 0.
proc Text_Selection {} {
if [catch {selection get} sel] {
if [catch {selection get -selection CLIPBOARD} sel] {
if [catch {cutbuffer get 0} sel] {
return ""
}
}
}
return $sel
}
This is in textSelection.tcl, and is what exmh uses to find text to paste.
It is that last "cutbuffer get" that is wacky, because exmh sticks its
own deletions into that little know stash, and is probably the only
application on the planet that still looks there. We should probably
just disable that - try this variant:
proc Text_Selection {} {
if [catch {selection get} sel] {
if [catch {selection get -selection CLIPBOARD} sel] {
return ""
}
}
return $sel
}
Everything funnels through here, so you just need to hack this one spot.
>>>Rick Baartman said:
> I've never understood the mouse buffer operation with exmh either. Here's th
e
> behaviour I have. I have exmh and XEmacs windows up, and a terminal window.
(I
> also have gnome1.4 running and enlightenment as wm.) I select text in the ex
mh
> window and while it is highlighted, I can paste into anything else. If I sel
ect
> it and then click so the highlighting is off, then what I paste is not the
> recently-selected text in exmh, but an old selection. If I select in XEmacs
and
> leave it highlighted, I can paste it into exmh sedit window; but if it is no
> longer highlighted, what I paste is an old selection. I can live with this
> behaviour except for one additional thing. If nothing is highlighted, then w
hat
> I paste into exmh is different from what I paste into other windows. To be m
ore
> specific, here's what gets pasted if nothing is highlighted:
>
> Application What gets pasted
>
> XEmacs whatever was last selected unless it was last selected in
exmh
> xterm same as XEmacs
> AbiWord nothing
> Nedit nothing
> sedit Whatever was last highlighted in sedit and overwritten
>
> The last needs some amplification. If I highlight something in sedit, then
> obviously that's what gets pasted. If the highlighting is off, then what get
s
> pasted is NOT what was last highlighted in sedit, but what was last highligh
ted
> and typed over (I have "Type Kills SEL" on.).
>
> It seems that exmh and sedit are the oddballs here. Very often when I try to
> paste something in sedit I end up muttering WTF??
>
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>>>Hal DeVore said:
> "Brent said in his book"
> This Paste function can be convenient, but it turns out that
> users still need to keep track of the difference between the
> two selections. If a user only understands the CLIPBOARD,
> then the user of PRIMARY is only surprising. I learned that
> it is best to have a separate paste user action for the two
> selections. The convention is that <ButtonRelease-2> sets
> the insert point and inserts the PRIMARY selection. ... The
> <<Paste>> event (e.g., the Paste key) simply inserts the
> CLIPBOARD selection at the current insert point. ...
Yeah, I learned by hearing exmh users scream in agony. Sorry about
all that. We should be able to clean this up. If you grep for
"bind" in seditBind you quickly find the Text_Selection proc
I described in the previous email.
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>>>"Kevin Oberman" said:
> It did for me, but I am not willing to say it is not a tcl/tk issue as
> other apps seemed to work OK for cut and paste and Tk does its
> clipboard stuff a bit differently than most toolkits. So I'm not
> about to place blame. Just reporting my experience.
One more salvo on X and cut/paste. X specifies at least two *mechanisms*
for cut/paste, but as usual mandates no *policy*. Windows and Macintosh
have a slightly different mechanism and one uniform policy. I'm quite
sure that Tk implements all PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD selections accurately.
The PRIMARY selection is the one that is tied to the visible selection
on your X display. The CLIPBOARD selection is the one with the explicit
Copy step, and is the same as what you have on Windows and Macintosh.
However, exmh throws in support for the cutbuffer mechanism, which is
another archaic mechanism supported at one point (perhaps still today)
by versions of emacs. Exmh has a policy that tries to unify all these
mechanisms under one umbrella, and by all reports it is not that great.
I would encourage folks to play with those 10 lines of code in
Text_Selection and report what works well for them. We may come up
with 8 lines that work for everyone, or perhaps introduce yet another
setting that lets folks choose between a few useful models. Of course,
that's an admission of policy failure, but I'm willing to do that.
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Re: bad focus/click behaviours
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:21:49 -0700
From: Brent Welch <welch@panasas.com>
Message-ID: <200209230521.BAA11218@blackcomb.panasas.com>
| I would encourage folks to play with those 10 lines of code in
| Text_Selection and report what works well for them. We may come up
| with 8 lines that work for everyone, or perhaps introduce yet another
| setting that lets folks choose between a few useful models. Of course,
| that's an admission of policy failure, but I'm willing to do that.
I actually think you're looking in the wrong place. I, at least,
have almost no problems with the choice of what gets pasted, or
selected, that stuff (for me, if perhaps not users of some gnome variant,
which appraently has been fixed anyway) all seems to work just fine.
The problem is that a button 1 click clears the selection (PRIMARY)
where it shouldn't - the previous selection should only be cleared
when there's something else to replace it (even if the highlighting
of what is selected is removed). Try this in any other ramdom
application (from xterm to netscape) and see how it works. There
normally is *no* (mouse based) way to actually clear the primary
selection (that is, set it to be a null string).
Then, because of the "if I get asked for the selection value, I will
find something" behaviour, if you click (intending to set the insert
point, the way most other GUI's operate), and then paste, because the
PRIMARY is clear, but exmh still owns the selection, because nothing
else has taken it, it does and finds some other ramdom stuff, from
either the clipboard or cut buffer, which tends to be something that was
deleted back in the ancient past, and pastes that.
That behaviour, to me anyway, is the real issue.
Once that gets fixed, we can switch back to operating the normal
"select stuff, click at new insert point, paste" mode of operation
that almost everyone expects to work (whether the "select stuff"
is somewhere in one of the exmh windows, or elsewhere).
kre
ps: this message is from my experience as a exmh user only, I've never
really understood enough about X and selections to go gazing at that
part of the code and see how it all really operates.
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Re: traceback in new exmh
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>
> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:58:16 -0400
>
> I just updated to the latest CVS - I had been running a build from June.
> Hitting the Flist button gives the following traceback:
>
> syntax error in expression "int(17+1+(222-)*(19-17-2)/(224-))"
> while executing
> "expr int($minLine+1+($msgid-$minMsg)*($maxLine-$minLine-2)/($maxMsg-$minMs
> g))"
> (procedure "Ftoc_FindMsg" line 57)
> invoked from within
> "Ftoc_FindMsg $i"
> (procedure "Ftoc_ShowSequences" line 16)
> invoked from within
> "Ftoc_ShowSequences $F"
> (procedure "ScanFolder" line 81)
> invoked from within
> "ScanFolder inbox 0"
> invoked from within
> "time [list ScanFolder $F $adjustDisplay"
> (procedure "Scan_Folder" line 2)
> invoked from within
> "Scan_Folder $exmh(folder) $ftoc(showNew)"
> (procedure "Inc_PresortFinish" line 7)
> invoked from within
> "Inc_PresortFinish"
> invoked from within
> ".fops.flist invoke"
> ("uplevel" body line 1)
> invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
> (procedure "tkButtonUp" line 7)
> invoked from within
> "tkButtonUp .fops.flist
> "
> (command bound to event)
>
>
> It seems to only happen in a folder with no unseen messages.
>
> Chris, is this related to your recent changes?
Curious. I changed the arguments to Ftoc_ShowSequences to drop the folder
argument and instead have an optional msgids argument. Somehow your version
of ScanFolder is still trying to pass $F. You seem to have the latest
ftoc.tcl (1.36), but not the latest scan.tcl (1.27).
I don't know how that happened, but try getting your source tree completely
up to date.
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Re: traceback in new exmh
Oops - turns out i wasn't careful installing it, so the exmh(library)
variable was pointing at my old installation. I'm surprised it worked
as well as it did.
In any case, I removed the old library directory, and edited exmh,
exmh-bg, exmh-strip, etc to point at the right one. Now I'm getting
another traceback on startup:
can't read "mhPriv(pubseq,family,cur)": no such variable
while executing
"MhSeq $folder $seq add $mhPriv(pubseq,$folder,$seq) [MhSeqExpand
$folder $msgids"
(procedure "MhReadSeqs" line 73)
invoked from within
"MhReadSeqs $folder seqs"
(procedure "Mh_Sequences" line 2)
invoked from within
"Mh_Sequences $folder"
(procedure "Flist_UnseenUpdate" line 4)
invoked from within
"Flist_UnseenUpdate $folder"
(procedure "FolderChange" line 51)
invoked from within
"FolderChange family {Msg_Show cur}"
invoked from within
"time [list FolderChange $folder $msgShowProc"
(procedure "Folder_Change" line 3)
invoked from within
"Folder_Change $exmh(folder)"
(procedure "Exmh" line 101)
invoked from within
"Exmh"
("after" script)
+family is the folder I was in when I quit exmh.
I'm on a remote display right now, and its really slow. I'll have to
play with it more tonight when I get home to see if there are any
other problems.
Scott
> > From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>
> > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:58:16 -0400
> >
> > I just updated to the latest CVS - I had been running a build from June.
> > Hitting the Flist button gives the following traceback:
> >
> > syntax error in expression "int(17+1+(222-)*(19-17-2)/(224-))"
> > while executing
> > "expr int($minLine+1+($msgid-$minMsg)*($maxLine-$minLine-2)/($maxMsg-$minMs
> > g))"
> > (procedure "Ftoc_FindMsg" line 57)
> > invoked from within
> > "Ftoc_FindMsg $i"
> > (procedure "Ftoc_ShowSequences" line 16)
> > invoked from within
> > "Ftoc_ShowSequences $F"
> > (procedure "ScanFolder" line 81)
> > invoked from within
> > "ScanFolder inbox 0"
> > invoked from within
> > "time [list ScanFolder $F $adjustDisplay"
> > (procedure "Scan_Folder" line 2)
> > invoked from within
> > "Scan_Folder $exmh(folder) $ftoc(showNew)"
> > (procedure "Inc_PresortFinish" line 7)
> > invoked from within
> > "Inc_PresortFinish"
> > invoked from within
> > ".fops.flist invoke"
> > ("uplevel" body line 1)
> > invoked from within
> > "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
> > (procedure "tkButtonUp" line 7)
> > invoked from within
> > "tkButtonUp .fops.flist
> > "
> > (command bound to event)
> >
> >
> > It seems to only happen in a folder with no unseen messages.
> >
> > Chris, is this related to your recent changes?
>
> Curious. I changed the arguments to Ftoc_ShowSequences to drop the folder
> argument and instead have an optional msgids argument. Somehow your version
> of ScanFolder is still trying to pass $F. You seem to have the latest
> ftoc.tcl (1.36), but not the latest scan.tcl (1.27).
>
> I don't know how that happened, but try getting your source tree completely
> up to date.
>
> Chris
>
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> From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-bcc@DeepEddy.Com>
> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:41:22 -0500
>
> > From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>
> > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:58:16 -0400
> >
> > I just updated to the latest CVS - I had been running a build from June.
>
> > Hitting the Flist button gives the following traceback:
> >
> > syntax error in expression "int(17+1+(222-)*(19-17-2)/(224-))"
> > while executing
> > "expr int($minLine+1+($msgid-$minMsg)*($maxLine-$minLine-2)/($maxMsg-$minMs
> > g))"
> > (procedure "Ftoc_FindMsg" line 57)
> > invoked from within
> > "Ftoc_FindMsg $i"
> > (procedure "Ftoc_ShowSequences" line 16)
> > invoked from within
> > "Ftoc_ShowSequences $F"
> > (procedure "ScanFolder" line 81)
> > invoked from within
> > "ScanFolder inbox 0"
> > invoked from within
> > "time [list ScanFolder $F $adjustDisplay"
> > (procedure "Scan_Folder" line 2)
> > invoked from within
> > "Scan_Folder $exmh(folder) $ftoc(showNew)"
> > (procedure "Inc_PresortFinish" line 7)
> > invoked from within
> > "Inc_PresortFinish"
> > invoked from within
> > ".fops.flist invoke"
> > ("uplevel" body line 1)
> > invoked from within
> > "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
> > (procedure "tkButtonUp" line 7)
> > invoked from within
> > "tkButtonUp .fops.flist
> > "
> > (command bound to event)
> >
> >
> > It seems to only happen in a folder with no unseen messages.
> >
> > Chris, is this related to your recent changes?
>
> Curious. I changed the arguments to Ftoc_ShowSequences to drop the folder
> argument and instead have an optional msgids argument. Somehow your version
> of ScanFolder is still trying to pass $F. You seem to have the latest
> ftoc.tcl (1.36), but not the latest scan.tcl (1.27).
>
> I don't know how that happened, but try getting your source tree completely
> up to date.
Actually, I take that back. You're not running the latest ftoc.tcl either.
It probably is my bug, but it's in code that's been changed since you last
updated from CVS (Saturday), so please update and let's see if the problem is
still there.
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Re: traceback in new exmh
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> From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>
> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:54:19 -0400
>
> Oops - turns out i wasn't careful installing it, so the exmh(library)
> variable was pointing at my old installation. I'm surprised it worked
> as well as it did.
>
> In any case, I removed the old library directory, and edited exmh,
> exmh-bg, exmh-strip, etc to point at the right one. Now I'm getting
> another traceback on startup:
>
> can't read "mhPriv(pubseq,family,cur)": no such variable
> while executing
> "MhSeq $folder $seq add $mhPriv(pubseq,$folder,$seq) [MhSeqExpand
> $folder $msgids"
> (procedure "MhReadSeqs" line 73)
> invoked from within
> "MhReadSeqs $folder seqs"
> (procedure "Mh_Sequences" line 2)
> invoked from within
> "Mh_Sequences $folder"
> (procedure "Flist_UnseenUpdate" line 4)
> invoked from within
> "Flist_UnseenUpdate $folder"
> (procedure "FolderChange" line 51)
> invoked from within
> "FolderChange family {Msg_Show cur}"
> invoked from within
> "time [list FolderChange $folder $msgShowProc"
> (procedure "Folder_Change" line 3)
> invoked from within
> "Folder_Change $exmh(folder)"
> (procedure "Exmh" line 101)
> invoked from within
> "Exmh"
> ("after" script)
>
>
> +family is the folder I was in when I quit exmh.
That shouldn't have been able to happen, but I've just made the code slightly
more bullet proof.
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> From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>
> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:49:47 -0400
>
> Chris,
>
> I'm home now, and this copy of exmh is pretty bad - I'm running from
> CVS on Sunday night - the only change since then was the one you made
> this morning for "bulletproofing in MhReadSeqs".
>
> I run exmh, and I can visably see it count up the number of unseen
> messages as it looks through the folders - I have about 3000 unseen
> messages in maybe 10 or 12 folders. It takes a few seconds for all
> of the folders in the fcache to turn blue.
This is true...it's now looking at more than just unseen, so it takes a little
while (in the background) to build the sequences window. There is probably
some tuning possible in this area.
> In +inbox, I have 4 unread messages. They aren't blue, they are
> white background with a normal colored font.
I changed the default display of unseen messages from a foreground of blue to
a background of white to make it possible to see what other sequences unseen
messages may be in. I *did* ask Brent before I did it. If you like the old
behavior, the old lines are still in app-defaults-color, but commented out.
> If I click on a message, I get the following traceback:
>
> invalid command name "Mh_MarkSeen"
> while executing
> "Mh_MarkSeen $exmh(folder) $msgid"
> (procedure "Hook_MsgShow_update_unseen" line 5)
> invoked from within
> "$cmd $mhProfile(path)/$exmh(folder)/$msgid mimeHdr"
> (procedure "MsgShow" line 23)
> invoked from within
> "MsgShow $msgid"
> (procedure "MsgChange" line 18)
> invoked from within
> "MsgChange 66 show"
> invoked from within
> "time [list MsgChange $msgid $show"
> (procedure "Msg_Change" line 3)
> invoked from within
> "Msg_Change $msgNum $show"
> (procedure "Msg_Pick" line 8)
> invoked from within
> "Msg_Pick $lineno show"
> (procedure "FtocRangeEnd" line 12)
> invoked from within
> "FtocRangeEnd [lindex [split [.ftoc.t index current] .] 0] 0"
> (command bound to event)
This is because of your Hook_MsgShow_update_unseen which is calling a function
which no longer exists.
I suspect you need
Seq_Del $exmh(folder) unseen $msgid
now instead of
Mh_MarkSeen $exmh(folder) $msgid
> It appears that the message does get marked as seen though, as it
> loses the white background, and nmh reports the same.
>
> If I click the flist button, it zero's the unseen count, and then
> there is again a visible delay as it counts up all the unseen
> messages - maybe 3-4 seconds.
>
> I really think my installation is OK now, but if this behavior is just
> really strange I'll blow everything away and reinstall. I'm happy to
> spend some time helping to track this down, I don't really need exmh.
> I'm comfortable enough using nmh.
>
> Scott
>
>
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> From: Scott Lipcon <slipcon@mercea.net>
> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:35:05 -0400
>
> The speed is a problem for sure - It takes a long time to do the
> rescanning of sequences (I associate it with hitting the 'flist'
> button, or when my background flist goes off). I'm running on a
> pretty fast system (Athlon 1700+, 512Mb RAM, 10k RPM ultra SCSI disk)
> and hitting flist used to take no more than a second. The big
> difference might just be perception, because the the old code just
> updated all the folders (count + color) all at once, instead of making
> it look like there is 0 unseen, then counting its way back up.
>
> I doubt I'll have much time in the immediate future to hack at this,
> but if I do - can you suggest areas that might be the best to
> optimize? If not, do you think we can put in some preferences to
> disable some of the more intensive features? I'd rather disable all
> the sequence support (except unseen, of course) and have reasonable
> speed. I suspect people on slow machines would find the current
> state unusable.
If I knew where the problem was, I'd fix it myself.
Finding it is probably more work than the actual fix.
> >
> > This is because of your Hook_MsgShow_update_unseen which is calling a fun
> ctio
> > n
> > which no longer exists.
> >
> > I suspect you need
> > Seq_Del $exmh(folder) unseen $msgid
> > now instead of
> > Mh_MarkSeen $exmh(folder) $msgid
> >
>
> Thanks. I'm not sure I'll need it with the new sequence code, but I
> might. Does your new code commit sequences immediately? The old code
> didn't, so I put that in to help keep my mh and exmh windows in sync.
Yes it does.
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Re: Minor feature request
> How easy would it be to code a menu item that marks as read all messages
> before the current message? I often have problems reading heavy-traffic
> mailing lists in exmh because I want to read only a subset of a lists
> messages, but I lose track of where I was in the particular folder.
>
> This could also be coded more generally in the new sequences code as a way to
> remove all messages before current from a particular sequence.
Easy.
First, you'll have to excuse me as I'm still using 2.3.1 (*), so, this
may not play well with recent changes. (I did look at 2.5.1, too).
And, I just did this off the top of my head (I wanted to see if it
(**) still worked), so this is somewhat untested.
Adding a menu entry is trivial; add this to your ~/.exmh/exmh-defaults:
*Fops.more.m.uentrylist: ketchup
*Fops.more.m.l_ketchup: Catch-up all b4 cur
*Fops.more.m.c_ketchup: My_Mark2CurSeen
Then you just need to provide the source for My_Mark2CurSeen and
arrange for Exmh to include it (put it in your ~/.tk/exmh directory
in your user.tcl; or in pick.patch if you enable the "source hook"
under Prefs->Hacking Support)
It's going to look something like this:
proc My_Mark2CurSeen {} {
global exmh pick msg
Exmh_Status "Clearing unseen up to cur..." red
Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msg(id)
set pick(ids) [...get message ids for "pick 1-cur"...]
busy PickMarkSeen
Exmh_Status ok blue
}
(that's based upon the guts of Pick_MarkSeen)
You need to fill in the code for the [...get...] section; I ran out of
time!
John
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Re: Exmh && speed
cwg-dated-1033065967.2dc492@DeepEddy.Com said:
> From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-exmh@DeepEddy.Com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:07:01 -0500 >
> Here's a fix that I think will make a real difference.
>
> Ftoc_ShowSequences needs to be able to be called with an optional
> list of msgids
> to update and if it's called that way it only removes or adds tags
> for those
> messages. Then in places like MsgChange, we only update the
> messages which have
> changed.
>
> Also, a separate Ftoc_ShowSequence function which only updates the
> display of
> one sequence should be written which also takes an optional list of
> msgids.
>
> In a place like MsgChange, it would only need to update the cur
> sequence.
>
> If nobody else gets to it, I'll do this when I get back.
> I just checked this in. Let me know if it helps.
> Chris
Congratulations Chris, you just made the hall of fame!! Speed is much better now. I haven't done any tests, but I'd say that latency dropped 2-3 times and we're back in good shape again.
Well done!
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Bug report: msg n+1 marked read
It seems that something changed during the last 3-4 weeks.
1) In a folder, msgs 1-n is read, n=current, n upwards is unread.
2) change to another folder
3) change back to the original folder and you'll see msg n+1 being
highlighted as current for a split second, that it changes back to
n=current.
Kind of annoying since it marks msg n+1 as read.
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Re: Bug report: msg n+1 marked read
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> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:22:26 +0200
>
>
> It seems that something changed during the last 3-4 weeks.
>
> 1) In a folder, msgs 1-n is read, n=current, n upwards is unread.
> 2) change to another folder
> 3) change back to the original folder and you'll see msg n+1 being
> highlighted as current for a split second, that it changes back to
> n=current.
>
> Kind of annoying since it marks msg n+1 as read.
I haven't seen what you describe, but I just saw something close to what you
describe. I think the message that's being incorrectly highlighted as current
is related to the current message in the other folder rather than being n+1.
I'll have to investigate a bit more to identify and fix the bug, but there is
something going on here.
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exmh and pgp: support for external passphrase cache (+patch)
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i'm a very happy user of exmh, but i'm paranoid also :-)
therefore i'm not too happy with exmh caching my pgp passphrases.
usually i use a relatively secure tool called 'quintuple agent'
<URL:http://www.vibe.at/tools/secret-agent/> to store my passphrases,
and i've just added the few lines of code to exmh which allow for such
external caches.
the patch is attached, it is against version 2.5-1 (debian), and the
files modified are extrasInit.tcl and pgpExec.tcl.
i've added three new preferences in the 'general pgp' section, which
allow everybody to use his/her favourite external tool to get the
passphrase (everything which spits out the phrase on stdout is ok).
i'd be happy if somebody with cvs access thinks that this stuff
is worth to be added and does so; apart from that i'm happy for
suggestions, comments or critique (mind you, i'm not exactly a special
friend of tcl so my code may leave things to be desired...)
regards
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+++ ./extrasInit.tcl Fri Sep 27 14:22:13 2002
@@ -642,6 +642,18 @@
{pgp(passtimeout) pgpPassTimeout 60 {Minutes to cache PGP passphrase}
"Exmh will clear its memory of PGP passphrases after
this time period, in minutes, has elapsed." }
+{pgp(extpass) pgpExtPass OFF {Use external passphrase cache}
+"If this is enabled, then exmh will use an external program to retrieve
+your passphrase when needed. pgpKeepPass and pgpPassTimeout will
+be ignored."}
+{pgp(getextcmd) pgpGetExtCmd {/usr/bin/q-client get %s} {Method to query external passphrase cache}
+"This external program is used to retrieve the passphrase for your key,
+if pgpExtPass is active. The passphrase is expected on stdout.
+The key id is substituted with %s (using format)." }
+{pgp(delextcmd) pgpDelExtCmd {/usr/bin/q-client delete %s} {Method to invalidate external passphrase cache}
+"This external program is used to delete the passphrase for your key
+from the external cache, if pgpExtPass is active.
+The key id is substituted with %s (using format)." }
}
# Make sure we don't inherit a bad pgp(version) from a previous setup
--- /usr/lib/exmh/pgpExec.tcl Sat Mar 2 17:26:39 2002
+++ ./pgpExec.tcl Fri Sep 27 14:19:40 2002
@@ -647,6 +647,33 @@
proc Pgp_GetPass { v key } {
global pgp
+ if {[info exists pgp(extpass)] && [set pgp(extpass)] \
+ && [info exists pgp(getextcmd)]} {
+ Exmh_Debug "Pgp_GetPass $v $key external"
+ set keyid [lindex $key 0]
+ set cmd [format $pgp(getextcmd) $keyid]
+ while (1) {
+ Exmh_Debug "running cmd $cmd"
+ if [ catch {exec sh -c "$cmd"} result ] {
+ Exmh_Debug "error running cmd: $result"
+ Exmh_Status "Error executing external cmd" warn
+ return {}
+ } else {
+ if {[Pgp_Exec_CheckPassword $v $result $key]} {
+ return $result
+ } else {
+ Exmh_Debug "bad passphrase"
+ if {[info exists pgp(delextcmd)]} {
+ Exmh_Debug "trying to invalidate bad passphrase"
+ if [catch {exec sh -c "[format $pgp(delextcmd) $keyid]"}] {
+ Exmh_Debug "invalidation failed"
+ return {}
+ }
+ }
+ }
+ }
+ }
+ } else {
Exmh_Debug "Pgp_GetPass $v $key"
if {[lsearch -glob [set pgp($v,privatekeys)] "[lindex $key 0]*"] < 0} {
@@ -695,6 +722,7 @@
}
return $password
}
+ }
}
}
--Multipart_Fri_Sep_27_14:42:27_2002-1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
--
+ Alexander Zangerl + az@snafu.priv.at + DSA 42BD645D + (RSA 5B586291)
Kind of like my 404K fund, "wealth not found." -- shrox
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Re: Help! I've lost my exmh-unseen window!
>
> I'll have to try it with another window manager and see if I can
>get exmh to put it back inside of sane boundaries. I don't have this
>problem with any other windows, though. Just the exmhunseen window.
>
How about enabling the "Show unseen message count in folder cache"
option? It displays the number of unseen messages next to each folder name
(if greater than 0), so you don't really need the unseen window unless
you're using more sequences than just "unseen".
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Re: Help! I've lost my exmh-unseen window!
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, "Paul" == Paul Menage wrote:
Paul> so you don't really need the unseen window unless you're
Paul> using more sequences than just "unseen".
I use a virtual window manager and keep the main exmh window and
the detached folder list on one virtual desktop but the unseen
window is set to show on all desktops.
Got no help for the problems, but just pointing out why some of
us find the unseen window invaluable.
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Re: Help! I've lost my exmh-unseen window!
In article <E17tS0T-0001zD-00@rds059> you write:
>>>> Patrick Salsbury writes:
>
> Patrick> One of the features I really like about exmh is the
> Patrick> ability to see which folders have unseen messages in
> Patrick> them, but recently, it seems to have vanished into the
> Patrick> bowels of my window manager in a place I can't get
> Patrick> to. It claims to be running, but doesn't appear
> Patrick> anywhere onscreen. (I'm using Enlightenment with a 2x2
> Patrick> virtual desktop. I've tried dropping it to only 1
> Patrick> screen. No help.)
> Patrick>
>
>This may not help/work but I've discovered recently that
>Alt-middle-mouse pops up a list of all of my windows. If I leave
>my mouse on the background, it lists Alt-middle-mouse as "Display
>Task List Menu".
>
>HTH,
>
>- Bill
When I do that, it just moves my mouse to the very edge of a window
(probably trying to center it on the off-screen window in question.)
I'll have to try it with another window manager and see if I can
get exmh to put it back inside of sane boundaries. I don't have this
problem with any other windows, though. Just the exmhunseen window.
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Re: Help! I've lost my exmh-unseen window!
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In article <E17v8Mw-0004eS-00@pmenage-dt.ensim.com> you write:
>>
>> I'll have to try it with another window manager and see if I can
>>get exmh to put it back inside of sane boundaries. I don't have this
>>problem with any other windows, though. Just the exmhunseen window.
>>
>
>How about enabling the "Show unseen message count in folder cache"
>option? It displays the number of unseen messages next to each folder name
>(if greater than 0), so you don't really need the unseen window unless
>you're using more sequences than just "unseen".
>
>Paul
>
As Hal noted, I like to have the unseen window visible in all
virtual desktops, even if the main window is minimized. However, I looked
through ALL the preferences menus, and didn't see anything resembling "Show
unseen message count in folder cache". Where is that? And in what version?
(I'm running v2.4 - 06/23/2000 - Creaky, I know.)
I went into twm with no virtual desktops, and it came up just fine.
Going back to Enlightenment I saw the same behavior as before. Then I knew
it MUST be something in the window manager, so I went digging. in my
~/.englightenment/...e_session-XXXXXX.snapshots.0 file I found all the
settings that E. uses for remembering border styles, positions, shaded
state, etc.
I have a 1600x1200 screen, and it kept putting my window at
1655x150 (AND had it shaded to boot, so it was tiny as well as offscreen!)
Searching for 'unseen' in that file found this section:
NEW: exmh.Exmh
NAME: exmh
CLASS: Exmh
NEW: unseen.UnseenWin
NAME: unseen
CLASS: UnseenWin
DESKTOP: 0
RES: 1600 1200
WH: 114 173
XY: 1655 150 0 0
LAYER: 4
STICKY: 1
SKIPTASK: 0
SKIPWINLIST: 0
SKIPFOCUS: 0
SHADE: 2
BORDER: PAGER_LEFT_BLUE
I changed:
XY: 1655 150 0 0 to
XY: 1455 150 0 0 so it would reappear in my viewable space,
restarted Enlightenment (CTRL-ALT-End) and then restarted exmh. Bingo!
There was my window!
I quickly told Englightenment to forget everything about that
window except is border style, and now have a sveldt little entry like so:
NEW: exmh.Exmh
NAME: exmh
CLASS: Exmh
NEW: unseen.UnseenWin
NAME: unseen
CLASS: UnseenWin
BORDER: PAGER_LEFT_BLUE
Completely an Enlightenment problem, not exmh. (Though I wonder how
it got mixed up in the first place? I certainly can't move a window off
screen like that. Unless it was part way over then snapped offscreen when
shading.)
Hmm. Weird.
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, folks. Hopefully this will be
useful to someone scouting the archives in the future... :-)
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Working My_Mark2CurSeen
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After a bit of peeking through the exmh tcl and playing with tcl a bit, I got
the "catchup unseen messages before cur" procedure working. Here's the code
for everybody and the list archives in case anyone wants it in the future.
Thanks to John R. LoVerso for putting me on the right track.
proc My_Mark2CurSeen {} {
global exmh pick msg
set results {}
Exmh_Status "Clearing unseen up to cur..." red
Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msg(id)
set unseen [Mh_Unseen $exmh(folder)]
foreach elem $unseen {
if { $elem < $msg(id) } {
lappend results $elem
}
}
set pick(ids) $results
busy PickMarkSeen
Exmh_Status ok blue
}
If you want to use this, stick it in your .tk/exmh directory, run auto_mkindex
on it and add the following lines to your .exmh/exmh-defaults:
*Fops.more.m.uentrylist: ketchup
*Fops.more.m.l_ketchup: Catch-up all before current
*Fops.more.m.c_ketchup: My_Mark2CurSeen
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Re: Working My_Mark2CurSeen
>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, "Ted" == Ted Cabeen wrote:
Ted> Here's the code for everybody and the list archives in
Ted> case anyone wants it in the future.
Very cool! I vote for this being added to CVS, any objections?
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In message <3703.1033415613@dimebox.bmc.com>, Hal DeVore writes:
>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, "Ted" == Ted Cabeen wrote:
>
> Ted> Here's the code for everybody and the list archives in
> Ted> case anyone wants it in the future.
>
>Very cool! I vote for this being added to CVS, any objections?
Not from me, although you probably want to change the name of the procedure.
:)
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:53:33 -0500
From: Hal DeVore <haldevore@acm.org>
Message-ID: <3703.1033415613@dimebox.bmc.com>
| I vote for this being added to CVS, any objections?
No, but using PickMarkSeen (and pick(ids)) as an alternative to
just doing
Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $results
seems unnecessary to me (that's all that PickMarkSeen does after all).
(That can be done via "busy")
Of course, the same is true of the badly named Pick_MarkSeen which has
nothing at all to do with "pick" except that it (ab)uses the pick(ids) var
in the same way. (Its name would be hard to change unfortunately, as it
is known in app-defaults files for the "Catch Up Unseen" menu item, but
its implementation could certainly be fixed).
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Unseen window versus Sequences Window
I apologize for not catching up to the current code in so long.
Now that I have I'm trying to resolve "breakage" and differences.
The unseen window seems to have been replaced with the sequences
window. While I appreciate the flexibility of the sequences
window, the unseen window filled an important-to-me need: It
was tiny and could be set to show on all desktops of a virtual
window manager without taking a lot of space. Since my normal
mode of operation involves two copies of exmh displaying on a
1024x768 vnc session, screen space is at a premium.
As things stand now, I have a sequences window that shows a lot
more information than I need to have handy and takes up a lot
more room than I can "spare".
I can see that I could like the new sequences window a lot for
certain operations. But I'd like a nice uncluttered, tiny
window that _only_ shows me info on my unread mail.
One possibility that occurs to me would be a button or mouse
click that "shrinks" the Sequences window to show only the
sequences in the "always show" list. And of course a way to
expand it back.
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Bindings problem with current CVS code
I've had this binding in my ~/.exmh/exmhbindings for years:
set {bindings(key,Flist_FindUnseen 1 ; Inc_PresortFinish)} <Key-f>
After updating to the current code in CVS I get "bad key f" when
I hit the "f" key. I can open the Bindings... Commands window
and define the binding. It then works until I restart exmh.
I suspect a parsing problem/change. I'll try to look into this
tomorrow unless someone knows where the problem might be.
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> From: Hal DeVore <haldevore@acm.org>
> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 23:22:14 -0500
>
> I've had this binding in my ~/.exmh/exmhbindings for years:
>
> set {bindings(key,Flist_FindUnseen 1 ; Inc_PresortFinish)} <Key-f>
>
> After updating to the current code in CVS I get "bad key f" when
> I hit the "f" key. I can open the Bindings... Commands window
> and define the binding. It then works until I restart exmh.
>
> I suspect a parsing problem/change. I'll try to look into this
> tomorrow unless someone knows where the problem might be.
Flist_FindUnseen has changed to Flist_FindSeqs. It takes the same arguments,
but I changed the name because it looks for all the sequences, not just the
unseen sequence.
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Re: Unseen window versus Sequences Window
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> From: Hal DeVore <haldevore@acm.org>
> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 23:21:21 -0500
>
> One possibility that occurs to me would be a button or mouse
> click that "shrinks" the Sequences window to show only the
> sequences in the "always show" list. And of course a way to
> expand it back.
That's a pretty good idea. I'm not sure I'll get to it any time soon. (I
already have a known bug reported on 9/25 that I haven't been able to get to.)
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A couple of nits...
I have a couple of small issues, and I'm not sure if their exmh issues
or my setup issues.
First, when I try and run exmh with wish from tk8.4.0 it seems to take
forever to start, but with wish from tk8.a.4 it starts in a snap.
Using the latest CVS, when I open exmh and the folder I'm in has unseen
messages and I hit next, exmh changes to the next folder with unseen messages
rather than to the first unseen in the current folder.
Finally, when I reach the end of the messages in a folder and go on to
the next unseen, exmh always goes back to inbox (which has no unseen
messages) rather than the next folder with unseen messages. (When I
goto next from inbox it does go where I would think it should go).
Just wanted to let you know what I'm seeing and find out if I'm expecting
some different than I should be.
Thanks for all the effort
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>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, "Chris" == Chris Garrigues wrote:
Chris> I'm not sure I'll get to it any time soon.
Well, you have a pretty good idea of when I might get to it (the
phrase hell freezes over comes to mind)... so whenever you can
will certainly be fine.
Thanks for considering it. In the meantime I've set the
"minimum entry lines" to 1. It certainly isn't going to make me
go back to the old version.
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Re: A couple of nits...
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On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 09:54:04 EDT, "J. W. Ballantine" <jwb@homer.att.com> said:
> First, when I try and run exmh with wish from tk8.4.0 it seems to take
> forever to start, but with wish from tk8.a.4 it starts in a snap.
This sounds like something piggy in the 'flist' code - I'm seeing flist
in general taking 5-10 seconds. Interesting that a different wish comes up
fast, there might be a borkedness in 8.4.
> Using the latest CVS, when I open exmh and the folder I'm in has unseen
> messages and I hit next, exmh changes to the next folder with unseen messages
> rather than to the first unseen in the current folder.
Hmm.. weirdness..
> Finally, when I reach the end of the messages in a folder and go on to
> the next unseen, exmh always goes back to inbox (which has no unseen
> messages) rather than the next folder with unseen messages. (When I
> goto next from inbox it does go where I would think it should go).
I've been seeing this as well - *usually* with inbox, but it's gotten
stuck on some other folders as well (I have procmail do rcvstore into folders
for me).
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>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, "Chris" == Chris Garrigues wrote:
Chris> Flist_FindUnseen has changed to Flist_FindSeqs.
I guess I was sleepier than I thought. I managed to cut and
paste the _right_ stuff from the app-defaults file into the
Bindings definition dialog without ever noticing that it was
different from what was in my exmhbindings file.
--Hal
P.S., can I get a pointer to a freeware Tcl/Tk debugger?
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Re: Another sequences window nit
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:39:13 -0500
From: Hal DeVore <haldevore@acm.org>
Message-ID: <9288.1033576753@dimebox.bmc.com>
| Restarting exmh was necessary.
Probably not. Next time try clicking on the folder name in the
sequences window for the sequence. That is, request that sequence
be the one displayed in the FTOC. If the sequence doesn't exist,
it will be cleaned up then.
Perhaps it would be nicer if flist would do it as well, but this
is effective enough.
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[I wrote this last night but it appears I never sent it... still
haven't had time to dig in to it...]
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, "Robert" == Robert Elz wrote:
Robert> No, but using PickMarkSeen (and pick(ids)) as an
Robert> alternative to just doing
Robert> Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $results
Ah. Neither Ted nor I were particularly up to date. I pulled
down the lates from CVS and am now running with it. I miss the
blue ftoc lines but I'll sort that out soon, iirc Chris said
it's a simple resource change.
Ted's code to "ketchup" made use of some of the procs that went
away in the sequence generalization. I've fixed it up... almost
and it looks like this now:
proc Cabeen_Mark2CurSeen {} {
global exmh mhProfile msg
set results {}
Exmh_Status "Clearing unseen up to cur..." red
Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msg(id)
set unseen [Mh_Sequence $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) ]
foreach elem $unseen {
if { $elem <= $msg(id) } {
lappend results $elem
}
}
busy Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $results
Exmh_Status ok blue
}
The "almost" is because it's not updating the highlighting on
the ftoc. I'm too tired to go figure out how to fix that just
now and have to move on to other stuff. If someone wants to
forward me a clue feel free.
Now that I've got all of Chris' sequence stuff I discovered that
my sequences are ... cluttered.
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Ringing bell on other computer
Hi,
succeeded in ringing a bell anytime I get a mail
to my inbox (Not Mailing lists, spams etc.) by
using procmail to execute a "play clink.wav" on
the "right" mails.
Now my demands are growing ;-)
I use my laptop remotely very often and now I would
like the bell to sound on that when I am there.
I triedto use the KDE remote sound server and it works in
the tests, but when procmail runs it it doesn't, presumably
as it doesn't have the authorization to communicate with
the laptop, beeing another user?
Any hints.
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>
>
> >>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, "Dag" == Dag Nygren wrote:
>
> Dag> but when procmail runs it it doesn't, presumably as it
> Dag> doesn't have the authorization to communicate with the
> Dag> laptop, beeing another user?
>
> I don't know anything about the KDE sound server but I'd guess
> your problem is the "environment" in which procmail runs. You
> don't say what procmail is running from. In my case, for
> example, procmail is run from fetchmail which is run by a cron
> job.
Sorry about that,
procmail is run by the qmail delivery agent to presort all mail
I get.
But anyway, I found an error message in procmail.log, which solved
the problem.
The following line in my delivery script seems to work fine now:
DISPLAY=<laptop>:0.0 artsplay <soundfile>
Thanks
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Re: Insert signature
On Wed Aug 21 2002 at 15:46, Ulises Ponce wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Is there a command to insert the signature using a combination of keys and not
> to have sent the mail to insert it then?
I simply put it (them) into my (nmh) component files (components,
replcomps, forwcomps and so on). That way you get them when you are
editing your message. Also, by using comps files for specific
folders you can alter your .sig per folder (and other tricks). See
the docs for (n)mh for all the details.
There might (must?) also be a way to get sedit to do it, but I've
been using gvim as my exmh message editor for a long time now. I
load it with a command that loads some email-specific settings, eg,
to "syntax" colour-highlight the headers and quoted parts of an
email)... it would be possible to map some (vim) keys that would add
a sig (or even give a selection of sigs to choose from).
And there are all sorts of ways to have randomly-chosen sigs...
somewhere at rtfm.mit.edu... ok, here we go:
rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/news.answers/signature_finger_faq.
(Warning... it's old, May 1995).
> Regards,
> Ulises
Hope this helps.
Cheers
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Re: New Sequences Window
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> From: "J. W. Ballantine" <jwb@homer.att.com>
> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:51:31 -0400
>
> I CVS'ed the unseen/Sequences changes and installed them, and have only one
> real issue.
>
> I use the unseen window rather than the exmh icon, and with the new code
> I can't seem to be able to. How many unseen when when I have the main window open
> is not really necessary.
hmmm, I stole the code from unseenwin, but I never tested it since I don't use
that functionality. Consider it on my list of things to check.
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:40:39 -0500
From: Chris Garrigues <cwg-dated-1030376441.95dd45@DeepEddy.Com>
Message-ID: <1029944441.398.TMDA@deepeddy.vircio.com>
| The background color in this window is the same as the background
| color in the ftoc.
That's what I'd like to vary - particularly as the ftoc background isn't
constant - messages in the unseen sequence have a different background
than others.
In the ftoc that's fine, but in the sequences window, it isn't needed.
unseen already has a different foreground there (no problem with that),
it doesn't need a different background as well.
I'll play about a bit with this, and with making it vertical instead of
horizontal, and see what turns up.
| The only sequences that are defined there are sequences which are defined
| in app-defaults-color or ~/exmh/exmh-defaults-color.
OK.
| I've been thinking about how to dynamically generate highlighting for
| other sequences, but haven't got that figured out yet.
In this case, highlighting wasn't what I was most concerned about.
A method to get messages in & out of sequences comes first, how it
displays is a secondary consideration. But as a suggestion, have an
"all unknown" sequence highlight, any message in a sequence which has
no defined highlighting (where defined includes defined to not be treated
specially) gets highlighted the same way (maybe something as boring as
a dark brown text colour - almost indistinguishable from the normal black)
| > > Any chance of making the current message a little brighter background?
|
| I don't see any reason why not. Experiment and let me know what works for you.
Done some of that. First, the most significant change came from changing
relief from raised to sunken. I don't know why, but it just looks better
(for me anyway). But even with that, cur and unseen are still just a
bit too similar. I ended up using
*sequence_cur: -background {PaleGoldenrod} -relief sunken -borderwidth 2
The unnecessary braces are just because some of the colours I was using
had spaces in their names. PaleGoldenrod translates as #eee8aa which
is probably safer for generic use.
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> > > > Just cvs up'ed and nowadays Catch-up Unseen is __extremely__ slow on
> > > > large (>100 msgs) unseen sequences. Anybody else having this problem?
> > >
> > > I'll take the blame.
> > >
> > > The reason, I suspect, is that we're needlessly reading the .sequences file
> > > multiple times because of other sequences. I need to make the code much
> > > smarter about handling that file, but first I have a few other fish to fry in
> > > my rather large patch that's on it's way.
> > >
> >
> > No panic,
> >
> > I'm all for cleaning things up before getting it optimized.
>
> Okay, this fix is now checked in.
>
I'm afraid it didn't help. It still seems to be slower than ~1 month
ago. Maybe slightly faster than yeasterday. I'm (still) seeing an
"unseen countdown" in the log.
18:51:25 Writing /home/ander/Mail/lists/l-k/.mh_sequences
18:51:25 lists/l-k has 57 msgs in unseen
18:51:25 lists/l-k has 56 msgs in unseen
18:51:25 lists/l-k has 55 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 54 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 53 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 52 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 51 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 50 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 49 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 48 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 47 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 46 msgs in unseen
18:51:26 lists/l-k has 45 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 44 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 43 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 42 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 41 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 40 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 39 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 38 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 37 msgs in unseen
18:51:27 lists/l-k has 36 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 35 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 34 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 33 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 32 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 31 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 30 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 29 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 28 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 27 msgs in unseen
18:51:28 lists/l-k has 26 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 25 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 24 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 23 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 22 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 21 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 20 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 19 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 18 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 17 msgs in unseen
18:51:29 lists/l-k has 16 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 15 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 14 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 13 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 12 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 11 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 10 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 9 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 digits changed
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 8 msgs in unseen
18:51:30 lists/l-k has 7 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 lists/l-k has 6 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 lists/l-k has 5 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 lists/l-k has 4 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 lists/l-k has 3 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 lists/l-k has 2 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 lists/l-k has 1 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 lists/l-k has 0 msgs in unseen
18:51:31 FlistUnseenFolder lists/l-k
18:51:31 ok
18:51:47 Folder_Change lists/exmh {Msg_Show cur}
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> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>
> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:55:03 +0200
>
>
>
>
> > > > > Just cvs up'ed and nowadays Catch-up Unseen is __extremely__ slow o
> n
> > > > > large (>100 msgs) unseen sequences. Anybody else having this proble
> m?
> > > >
> > > > I'll take the blame.
> > > >
> > > > The reason, I suspect, is that we're needlessly reading the .sequence
> s file
> > > > multiple times because of other sequences. I need to make the code m
> uch
> > > > smarter about handling that file, but first I have a few other fish t
> o fry in
> > > > my rather large patch that's on it's way.
> > > >
> > >
> > > No panic,
> > >
> > > I'm all for cleaning things up before getting it optimized.
> >
> > Okay, this fix is now checked in.
> >
> I'm afraid it didn't help. It still seems to be slower than ~1 month
> ago. Maybe slightly faster than yeasterday. I'm (still) seeing an
> "unseen countdown" in the log.
Okay....Catchup unseen is something that I don't use often, but i can
certainly reproduce this. I'll dig into it. It's probably simple.
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Oooops!
Doesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to change folder (which fail)
/Anders
can't read "flist(seqcount,lists/exmh,unseen)": no such element in array
(reading value of variable to increment)
invoked from within
"incr flist(seqcount,$folder,$seq) $delta"
(procedure "Seq_Del" line 16)
invoked from within
"Seq_Del $exmh(folder) $mhProfile(unseen-sequence) $msgid"
(procedure "MsgSeen" line 7)
invoked from within
"MsgSeen $msgid"
(procedure "MsgShow" line 12)
invoked from within
"MsgShow $msgid"
(procedure "MsgChange" line 17)
invoked from within
"MsgChange 73 show"
invoked from within
"time [list MsgChange $msgid $show"
(procedure "Msg_Change" line 3)
invoked from within
"Msg_Change $msg(id) $show"
(procedure "Msg_Show" line 7)
invoked from within
"Msg_Show cur"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval $msgShowProc"
(procedure "FolderChange" line 55)
invoked from within
"FolderChange lists/exmh {Msg_Show cur}"
invoked from within
"time [list FolderChange $folder $msgShowProc"
(procedure "Folder_Change" line 3)
invoked from within
"Folder_Change $exmh(folder)"
(procedure "Exmh" line 101)
invoked from within
"Exmh"
("after" script)
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Re: Insert signature
In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:03:57 CDT
Ulises Ponce said:
>Thanks Tony, but I think doing it using component files will get a .signature
>by default, but I have many diferent signatures and I want to insert one of
>that signatures using a keyboard command. So for a message I will insert a
>signature, but for another message I will insert a different signature.
>
>Is it possible? I am using sedit for my messages.
Ahm, if you don't object to using a mouse for such things, exmh has
the ability to insert different sigs on demand. Create a bunch of
different sig files, all beginning with .signature, and at start up,
exmh will load them all. In the Sedit window, you'll see a Sign...
menu item which will allow you to select between each of the listed
.signature files for *that* e-mail. You can actually use several if
you'd like (though I don't remember what Preferences... option allows
for this).
However, the signature gets added on send, not inserted directly into
the existing Sedit window prior to composition.
I currently have 6 different sig files I can choose between.
Additionally, if a .signature file has the execute bit turned on,
exmh will attempt to execute the file and use the stdout of the
script as your signature.
I hope this helps some.
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Thanks Paul,
That is the way I am doing right now, but I would like to NOT use the mouse
for such things. Any other clue?
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Speaking words of wisdom ...
> In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:03:57 CDT
> Ulises Ponce said:
>
> >Thanks Tony, but I think doing it using component files will get a .signature
> >by default, but I have many diferent signatures and I want to insert one of
> >that signatures using a keyboard command. So for a message I will insert a
> >signature, but for another message I will insert a different signature.
> >
> >Is it possible? I am using sedit for my messages.
>
> Ahm, if you don't object to using a mouse for such things, exmh has
> the ability to insert different sigs on demand. Create a bunch of
> different sig files, all beginning with .signature, and at start up,
> exmh will load them all. In the Sedit window, you'll see a Sign...
> menu item which will allow you to select between each of the listed
> .signature files for *that* e-mail. You can actually use several if
> you'd like (though I don't remember what Preferences... option allows
> for this).
>
> However, the signature gets added on send, not inserted directly into
> the existing Sedit window prior to composition.
>
> I currently have 6 different sig files I can choose between.
>
> Additionally, if a .signature file has the execute bit turned on,
> exmh will attempt to execute the file and use the stdout of the
> script as your signature.
>
> I hope this helps some.
> --
>
> Seeya,
> Paul
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Anolther sequence related traceback
Just got this ... I was just reading mail, but in a very dark
room, where the keyboard is illuminated mostly by the light from
the (laptop) screen. I think I put my fingers on the wrong keys.
(I mostly use the keyboard exclusively while running exmh).
This is from today's cvs (the fixes for the problems I mentioned
yesterday are included) - I eventually managed to contact the cvs
server.
expected integer but got ""
while executing
"incr m"
(procedure "MhSeqExpand" line 12)
invoked from within
"MhSeqExpand $folder $msgids"
(procedure "MhSeq" line 2)
invoked from within
"MhSeq $folder $seq $how $oldmsgids $msgids"
(procedure "Mh_SequenceUpdate" line 54)
invoked from within
"Mh_SequenceUpdate $folder replace $seq $msgids"
(procedure "Seq_Set" line 4)
invoked from within
"Seq_Set $folder cur $msgid"
(procedure "Mh_SetCur" line 7)
invoked from within
"Mh_SetCur $exmh(folder) $msgid"
(procedure "MsgChange" line 5)
invoked from within
"MsgChange - noshow"
invoked from within
"time [list MsgChange $msgid $show"
(procedure "Msg_Change" line 3)
invoked from within
"Msg_Change $select(sel) noshow"
(procedure "SelectTypein" line 14)
invoked from within
"SelectTypein .mid.right.top.msg -"
(command bound to event)
kre
ps: I have the sequences window vertical instead of horizontal, and the
"colours from the ftoc" stuff all deleted, and it is looking just about as
good as the old unseen window used to look. I still have some work to
do to make it a little nicer (listboxes seem to have some strange habits)
and then I need to make it all optional and parameterized, at the minute
I'm just embedding stuff in the code, much quicker for prototyping. Once
its done, I'll send a patch for someone to look over.
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In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:53:55 CDT
Ulises Ponce said:
>Thanks Paul,
>That is the way I am doing right now, but I would like to NOT use the mouse
>for such things. Any other clue?
The best I can think of is to figure out what the command being
issued by exmh is that selects and inserts the sig and bind that to a
key sequence. That shouldn't be *too* difficult, it's just a matter
of figuring out the tcl (something my perl-based brain isn't excited
about :)
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Re: CVS report
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> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>
> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:23:17 +0200
>
>
> Oooops!
>
> Doesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to change folde
> r (which fail)
~sigh~ I'd already found that and checked it in....apparently I did so after
you checked it out and before you sent this mail...I hoped I was fast enough
that you wouldn't see it.
Try again!
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>>>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, "Chris" == Chris Garrigues wrote:
Chris> --==_Exmh_267413022P Content-Type: text/plain;
Chris> charset=us-ascii
+> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm> Date: Thu, 22 Aug
+> 2002 20:23:17 +0200
+> Oooops!
+> Doesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to
+> change folde r (which fail)
Chris> ~sigh~ I'd already found that and checked it in....apparently
Chris> I did so after you checked it out and before you sent this
Chris> mail...I hoped I was fast enough that you wouldn't see it.
Chris> Try again!
Works like a charm. It's like the box was on drugs or something.
However, while testing it a selected my favourite folder (l-k) and
marked ~400 messages unread. THAT took forever, or about as long as
Catch-up Unseen did before. Any suggestions?
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> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>
> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:14:20 +0200
>
>
> >>>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, "Chris" == Chris Garrigues wrote:
>
> Chris> --==_Exmh_267413022P Content-Type: text/plain;
> Chris> charset=us-ascii
>
> +> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm> Date: Thu, 22 Aug
> +> 2002 20:23:17 +0200
>
> +> Oooops!
>
> +> Doesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to
> +> change folde r (which fail)
>
> Chris> ~sigh~ I'd already found that and checked it in....apparently
> Chris> I did so after you checked it out and before you sent this
> Chris> mail...I hoped I was fast enough that you wouldn't see it.
>
> Chris> Try again!
>
>
> Works like a charm. It's like the box was on drugs or something.
>
> However, while testing it a selected my favourite folder (l-k) and
> marked ~400 messages unread. THAT took forever, or about as long as
> Catch-up Unseen did before. Any suggestions?
That's fixed now. I thought I'd caught all the occurrences of that particular
coding stupidity.
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 02:05:19 +0700
From: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.oz.au>
Message-ID: <16323.1030043119@munnari.OZ.AU>
When I said ...
| This is from today's cvs
that will translate as "yesterday's" now of course (before the most
recent set of changes (catchup speedups, and so on)).
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ARRRGHHH Had GPG working, now it doesnt.
HELP.
I had GPG working.
I updated from version gnupg-1.0.6 to gnupg-1.0.7.
This moved gpg from /usr/bin to /usr/local/bin and I changed the path
in the exmh 'executable'.
With that fix, EXMH knows I have GPG, and puts the line
Check the signature with GnuPG
in messages with GnuPG signatures. But punching the line ALWAYS
gives
Signature made Thu Aug 29 00:27:17 2002 MDT using DSA key ID BDDF997A
Can't check signature: public key not found
So, something else is missing.
Can somebody tell me what it is,- Ive tried grepping on everything
that I can think of with no luck at all.
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Re: Ringing bell on other computer
BTW: I remember messing about with such things long ago. One
problem I ran into was making sure that no attempt was made to
play a sound when either:
a) the screen was locked
or
b) no exmh was running.
Just something to think about, Dag.
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Re: Ringing bell on other computer
> > >
> > > Dag> but when procmail runs it it doesn't, presumably as it
> > > Dag> doesn't have the authorization to communicate with the
> > > Dag> laptop, beeing another user?
> > >
> > > I don't know anything about the KDE sound server but I'd guess
> > > your problem is the "environment" in which procmail runs. You
> > > don't say what procmail is running from. In my case, for
> > > example, procmail is run from fetchmail which is run by a cron
> > > job.
> >
> > Sorry about that,
> > procmail is run by the qmail delivery agent to presort all mail
> > I get.
> > But anyway, I found an error message in procmail.log, which solved
> > the problem.
> > The following line in my delivery script seems to work fine now:
> >
> > DISPLAY=<laptop>:0.0 artsplay <soundfile>
>
> BTW, if you use exmhwrapper (found in the misc directory), you can generalize
> this to
>
> DISPLAY=`cat $HOME/.exmh/.display` artsplay <soundfile>
Yes, but that probably means that you have to have exmh
running on the laptop to get the notification?
With exmh getting upset by two instances running at the
same time, this creates the problem that I cannot run to the
closest compter to check out the new mail.
But thanks for the hint, I might use that for some other
hack ;-)
BRGDS
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From
When I receive a message that has a line starting with "From ", it's
broken into two messages. I get my mail from /var/spool/mail. The
program that incorporates mail thinks that the "From " line starts a new
message.
My sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client is supposed to
escape lines begining with "From ". EXMH (2.5) doesn't do this. Should
it? It appears that my MH is MH 6.8. Does NMH fix this?
Jason D. M. Rennie
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Re: From
This is not an exmh problem, but an interaction between sendmail, Solaris and
mh.
Your sysadmin is wrong. It is the responsibility of the receiving mail
server to escape lines beginning with "From " if they choose to turn on that
facility. It is not the responsibility for email clients to cater to the
stupid design of the unix mail spool, and Sun's even more stupid decision to
rely on "Content-length:" instead of dealing with this problem. Since mh is
unaware of "Content-length:", rcvstore gags trying to parse messages from the
spool.
I had this same problem. There are several ways to fix it:
1) Get your mail administrator to add the "E" flag to your sendmail. This
means you will never see a line beginning with "From ". Any such line will
look like ">From ".
2) There is a patch to mh to make it respect "Content-length:". When I was
having this problem, porting this patch to nmh was low on the priority list,
then nmh development stalled for a long time. I doubt it has been done, but
you can check with the nmh list at nmh-workers@mhost.com to find out for sure.
3) You can learn to use procmail, invoking rcvstore directly instead of
letting sendmail put your incoming mail into the spool. This avoids the
whole issue. rcvstore only deals with a single message at a time, and
everything works.
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In message <200210091657.g99GvDmX025433@life.ai.mit.edu>, Jason Rennie said:
>
> When I receive a message that has a line starting with "From ", it's
> broken into two messages. I get my mail from /var/spool/mail. The
> program that incorporates mail thinks that the "From " line starts a new
> message.
>
> My sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client is supposed to
> escape lines begining with "From ". EXMH (2.5) doesn't do this. Should
> it? It appears that my MH is MH 6.8. Does NMH fix this?
>
> Jason D. M. Rennie
> MIT AI Lab
> jrennie@ai.mit.edu
> (617) 253-5339
> http://www.ai.mit.edu/~jrennie/
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>>>>> On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, "Jason" == Jason Rennie wrote:
Jason> My sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client
Jason> is supposed to escape lines begining with "From ".
Your sysadmins are wrong.
Whatever program that is used to store the mail into the
braindead "mailbox" file (/var/spool/mail/whatever) is supposed
to escape a line that begins with From. That program is called
the local Mail Delivery Agent (MDA)
It would be better if you never, ever, stored your mail in a
"mailbox" file.
If your sysadmins are capable of it, get them to set up the
receiving Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) to allow the use of procmail
as the local MDA. Then use procmail to invoke rcvstore and
deliver your mail directly into your MH mail folders.
Most Linux systems come configured this way, if a user has a
$HOME/.procmail file then mail is delivered using procmail.
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Re: From
James> This is not an exmh problem, but an interaction between sendmail,
James> Solaris and mh.
Correct.
James> Your sysadmin is wrong. It is the responsibility of the receiving mail
James> server to escape lines beginning with "From " if they choose to turn
James> on that facility. It is not the responsibility for email clients to
James> cater to the stupid design of the unix mail spool, and Sun's even more
James> stupid decision to rely on "Content-length:" instead of dealing with
James> this problem. Since mh is unaware of "Content-length:", rcvstore gags
James> trying to parse messages from the spool.
Also correct. In fairness, though I cannot defend the Content-Length: header
as I consider it brain damage in the extreme, Sun inherited this from AT&T.
James> Get your mail administrator to add the "E" flag to your sendmail.
James> This means you will never see a line beginning with "From ". Any such
James> line will look like ">From ".
Specifically, you will need to find a line in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf that
starts with "Mlocal" such as:
[4784] grep ^Mlocal /etc/mail/sendmail.cf
Mlocal, P=/usr/lib/mail.local, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qPSXfmnz9E, S=EnvFromSMTP/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
[4785]
and make sure that 'E' appears in the long list of flags following "F=".
If your sys-admin uses m4 to generate sendmail.cf, and any good sys-admin
should, then here is the magic line for the .mc file:
MODIFY_MAILER_FLAGS(`LOCAL', `+E')dnl
James> You can learn to use procmail, invoking rcvstore directly instead of
James> letting sendmail put your incoming mail into the spool. This avoids
James> the whole issue. rcvstore only deals with a single message at a time,
James> and everything works.
Also correct, though procmail per se is not needed, as other filters (such
as slocal, which is part of the [n]mh distribution) do the trick just as well.
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mcmasjc@tatanka.stortek.com said:
> 3) You can learn to use procmail,
Can this be done via .forward? I don't have root on the machine my
mailbox is on, and I'm absolutely certain that a complaint to the sysadmin
about sendmail will get a simple response: shut down the daemon and tell
me to use Outlook. :(
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Re: From
In message <200210091843.OAA01268@hippolyta.crd.ge.com>, Kevin Kenny said:
>
> mcmasjc@tatanka.stortek.com said:
> > 3) You can learn to use procmail,
>
It absolutely can be done from .forward. I am in the same situation as you,
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Re: From
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
It has been signed conforming to RFC3156.
You'll need GPG or PGP to check the signature.
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On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:43:32 EDT, Kevin Kenny writes:
>> 3) You can learn to use procmail,
>Can this be done via .forward?
make your .forward contain only the following line:
"|/usr/bin/procmail"
(incl. the quotes, your procmail binary may be in another path)
cheers,
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In message <200210091925.g99JPGfJ001534@fsck.intern.waldner.priv.at>, Robert
Wa
ldner said:
>
>
> On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:43:32 EDT, Kevin Kenny writes:
> >> 3) You can learn to use procmail,
>
> >Can this be done via .forward?
>
> make your .forward contain only the following line:
> "|/usr/bin/procmail"
> (incl. the quotes, your procmail binary may be in another path)
>
Check the procmail documentation. They actually recommend:
"|IFS=' '&&p=(PATH/TO/PROCMAIL)&&test -f $p&&exec $p -f-||exit
75#(UNIQUE_STRING)"
I don't know what this does, but it is explained in the doc.
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Jason Rennie <jrennie@ai.mit.edu> writes:
> My sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client is supposed to
> escape lines begining with "From ". EXMH (2.5) doesn't do this. Should
> it? It appears that my MH is MH 6.8. Does NMH fix this?
Actually, this issue used to escalate into a religious war. The "From "
envelope is an artifact of the mbox mailbox format, and from that
perspective it should be the mail server that stores its mailboxes in
mbox format that should be responsible for escaping lines beginning with
"From ". On the other hand, this breaks the assumption that the mail
transport only touches the message headers and leaves the message body
alone.
Things like pgp signatures break when the mail server changes the message
body.
Also, strictly speaking, the mbox format envelope (or for us old-timers,
the UUCP envelope) isn't just any line beginning with "From ". It's really
"From", a single space, a valid email address, two spaces, and a valid
date.
For example:
From ptardif@nbnet.nb.ca Sun Jul 14 08:53:57 2002
^ ^^
--
John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix
IM: jabr@jabber.blu.org / abreauj@aim / abreauj@yahoo / 28611923@icq
Email jabr@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9
PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99
Some people say, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
I often respond, "When elephants fight, it's the grass
that gets trampled."
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Re: sylpheed-claws
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:41:20 +0200
Matthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:
# So did my build if the original source is what you were mentioning
# ;-) One drawback : They changed from pspell to aspell apparently,
# and it requires aspell >= 0.50 which isn't even in Rawhide, so spell
# checking is disabled for now until I take a decision about it :-/
OOps, I didn't see the webpage get updated. I saw the new claws, and
checked your site, forgot about it for half a day and then posted
here. You beat me once again!
# If I build recent aspell packages, they may not be upgraded when
# ungrating to the next Red Hat Linux release (the final version of
# the limbos and(null) betas), which is maybe not really desired. I'll
# probably test and see...
Oh yeah, I was following this thread in the sylpheed-claws list. Very
interesting stuff. I might have to stick w/ 0.8.2 until aspell gets
updated in Red Hat.
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Once upon a time, Jesse wrote :
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:40:55 +0200
> Matthias Saou <matthias@rpmforge.net> wrote:
>
> # But as it's the primary mailer I use, you can be sure that as soon
> # as it's updated to 0.8.3, I'll update my build! :-)
>
> It got updated (;
So did my build if the original source is what you were mentioning ;-)
One drawback : They changed from pspell to aspell apparently, and it
requires aspell >= 0.50 which isn't even in Rawhide, so spell checking is
disabled for now until I take a decision about it :-/
If I build recent aspell packages, they may not be upgraded when ungrating
to the next Red Hat Linux release (the final version of the limbos and
(null) betas), which is maybe not really desired. I'll probably test and
see...
Matthias
PS: The spec file was massively updated and the --with / --without options
that can be used to rebuild the source packages are now listed in the
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Once upon a time, Jesse wrote :
> Oh yeah, I was following this thread in the sylpheed-claws list. Very
> interesting stuff. I might have to stick w/ 0.8.2 until aspell gets
> updated in Red Hat.
Then this may be 6 months or more since my guess after 3 beta releases is
that the freeze on package versions for inclusion in the next stable
release (n+1) has already happened, thus you'll have to wait at least for
Red Hat Linux... n+2 :-)
This is why (if it doesn't break anything), I'll maybe release recent
aspell packages. But to be sure I'll need to do some testing ;-)
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Re: Should mplayer be build with Win32 codecs?
Hi,
First you have to get the win32 files !!!
then , you configure using --enable_win32
On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 13:11, Axel Thimm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> has anyone an answer for me? The mplayer documentation still suggests to use
> them for x86 architectures.
>
> Thanks. :)
>
> Regards, Axel.
>
> On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 11:39:03PM +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > Are there perhaps licensing issues, which forbid such a practice? Or any other
> > reasons?
> >
> > The reason I ask is that I have seen performance and also some feature
> > differences (fullscreen w/o keeping aspect ratio, visual artifacts on NVIDIA)
> > comparing with or without the Win32 codecs. The mplayer authors seem to
> > recommend using them for x86 architectures.
> >
> > Beware, I am no mplayer/codecs/whatever expert, I may be totally lost ...
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netatalk-1.5.5-1rh7
Hi folks, I just uploaded RPMS of the new netatalk 1.5.5 released
yesterday, thought folks here might be interested. This release fixes a
nastygram in saving files via Illustrator that I personally have been
waiting for....
http://ftp.falsehope.com/home/tengel/netatalk/
(will be mirrored on rpmfind.net by tomorrow, usually).
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hi
Hello,
I'm new to the list.
I wanted to find out who tried recompiling a working apt rpm for (null) or
psyche. I would like to get good GStreamer packages done by monday when
it's released.
BTW, in the archive I saw some posts regarding the GStreamer repository.
I'm not sure why they were posted on this list ;) In any case, I'm the rpm
maintainer, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I was trying to get an updated apt rpm from http://dave.cridland.net/, but
the http port is closed. Dave, if you're reading this, please let me know
where I can get the updated rpm.
Thanks,
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Once upon a time, Thomas wrote :
> I wanted to find out who tried recompiling a working apt rpm for (null)
> or psyche. I would like to get good GStreamer packages done by monday
> when it's released.
I have a working apt 0.5.4cnc7 package for Red Hat Linux 8.0. It will be
available at the same second the distribution will, and so will a complete
apt repository already including quite a few of my packages updated for Red
Hat Linux 8.0.
I didn't want to say all this before Monday, but as the new release already
leaked from many places, and official statements made about it, it
shouldn't be a big deal :-/
I'll keep you all posted on Monday! They'll even be a big apt-related
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Red Hat 8.0
Hi,
Red Hat 8.0 is released tomorrow (monday). I took some time out to make
RPMs of GStreamer for it.
All of them (core, plugins and player) have been uploaded to the apt
repository in a new "redhat-80-i386" directory.
The repository for dependencies is again called "deps", and the one for
the gstreamer rpms is "redhat", because this time around the base distro
contains all the necessary packages.
A screenshot of Red Hat 8.0 running gst-player is up at
http://thomas.apestaart.org/download/screenshots/redhat-80-gst-player.png
Here are some known issues with the resulting rpms :
a) gstreamer-nautilus isn't built, the package got renamed and I don't
have a -devel package for it yet
b) the c++ plugins have problems which I haven't been able to resolve.
Here are the errors:
INFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin
/usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load: Error loading plugin
/usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so, reason: /usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0:
undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE
Plugin /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load
DEBUG(15299: 0)gst_plugin_load_plugin:161: attempt to load plugin
"/usr/lib/gst/libgstmodplug.so"
INFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin
/usr/lib/gst/libgstmodplug.so failed to load: Error loading plugin
/usr/lib/gst/libgstmodplug.so, reason: /usr/lib/gst/libgstmodplug.so:
undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0
I'm not sure how to fix this; running strings on the libs in /usr/lib
reveals that there are other libs that have these symbols, so there must
be something straightforward that should fix this.
If anyone has a suggestion, please share ;)
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Re: [gst-devel] Red Hat 8.0
Hi,
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote:
>
> > INFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin
> > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load: Error loading plugin
> > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so, reason: /usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0:
> > undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE
> Are you using the same version of GCC to compile the plugin as its C++
> dependencies?
Yes, I am. Everything is built inside a chroot. I think it isn't linking
to a lib somewhere, I'm just not sure what lib it should preloading here.
Anyway to find out which one it is ?
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Re: [gst-devel] Red Hat 8.0
Once upon a time, Thomas wrote :
> > On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote:
> >
> > > INFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin
> > > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load: Error loading plugin
> > > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so, reason: /usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0:
> > >
> > > undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE
>
> > Are you using the same version of GCC to compile the plugin as its C++
> > dependencies?
>
> Yes, I am. Everything is built inside a chroot. I think it isn't
> linking to a lib somewhere, I'm just not sure what lib it should
> preloading here. Anyway to find out which one it is ?
Looks like a problem with the avifile you've rebuilt... I've been unable to
recompile successfully the latest version on 8.0 :-/
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Re: [gst-devel] Red Hat 8.0
> > > > INFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin
> > > > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load: Error loading plugin
> > > > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so, reason: /usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0:
> > > >
> > > > undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE
> >
> > > Are you using the same version of GCC to compile the plugin as its C++
> > > dependencies?
> >
> > Yes, I am. Everything is built inside a chroot. I think it isn't
> > linking to a lib somewhere, I'm just not sure what lib it should
> > preloading here. Anyway to find out which one it is ?
>
> Looks like a problem with the avifile you've rebuilt... I've been unable to
> recompile successfully the latest version on 8.0 :-/
Hm, it is built inside the same chroot. aviplay works (well it would if I
had XV, I get X errors ;)). But it doesn't complain about linker
problems. So I suppose my avifile library on itself is compiled ok.
Sigh, avifile is one of the worst packages out there, in all aspects -
naming of tarballs, not ever releasing an actual package, versioning of
libraries, API stability, ...
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Re: New testing packages
Peter Peltonen (peter.peltonen@iki.fi) wrote*:
>BTW: I just a found a quite nice looking apt repositry for
>all kinds of audio apps at
>
>http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
>
_Very_ comprehensive audio app collection, Thanks.
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Re: All set for Red Hat Linux 8.0
Matthias,
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 09:28:26AM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:
> All freshrpms.net is now set for the imminent release of Red Hat Linux 8.0.
thanks a lot for all your effords! It is just great!
> I'll probably post to the list once I open up ftp.freshrpms.net so you can
> be the first ones to get in and download, although I doubt you'll have
> trouble finding access to at least one fast mirror using my mirror list.
You mean the mirror list for RH8.0, or do there exist mirrors for your apt
repo?
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 06:37:54PM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:
> I'll keep you all posted on Monday! They'll even be a big apt-related
> surprise! ;-))))
Was this the surprise, or will there be even more (where are my heart pills)? ;)
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Re: New testing packages
Indeed - I was thinking of getting back into doing mods - nice to see an
apt-get'able soundtracker there :-)
Anyone know where to get a good selection of samples/loops?
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Re: All set for Red Hat Linux 8.0
I would appreciate it if you could get Gabber packages for Red Hat 8. I
will be making a new release soon, but even in the meantime, 0.8.7
packages would be ok.
I know that in the beta, red hat was using a modified version of
gnome-libs which is incompatible with the latest gnomemm. If this is
still the case in 8, I can send you a patch which makes gnomemm work
again...
Julian
On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 03:28 US/Eastern, Matthias Saou wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> All freshrpms.net is now set for the imminent release of Red Hat Linux
> 8.0.
> The whole release process is a lot less secret as usual since there
> have
> been some leaks, including a mirror purposely wide open :-(
>
> See this article about the release and the leaks :
> http://news.com.com/2100-1001-959434.html?tag=fd_top
>
> As it's no secret anymore, the files will be available today (morning
> for
> you Americans, afternoon for us Europeans), and to go with them, there
> are
> already quite a few freshrpms.net packages ready!
>
> Mirror list for download (they're not open yet) :
> http://freshrpms.net/mirrors/psyche.html
>
> New freshrpms.net package list :
> http://psyche.freshrpms.net/
>
> Of course, apt is also available (now version 0.5.4!) and fully
> tested. If
> you like apt for your desktop machines, I also recommend checking out
> the
> new "synaptic" package as it has now been ported to gtk+ and blends
> perfectly into the distribution!
>
> I'll probably post to the list once I open up ftp.freshrpms.net so you
> can
> be the first ones to get in and download, although I doubt you'll have
> trouble finding access to at least one fast mirror using my mirror
> list.
>
> Have fun with Psyche!
> Matthias
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apt 0.5.7 on RH 7.x
Hi.
Are there any reasons _not_ to use the new apt releases on RH 7.x?
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Re: ALSA Problem with Null kernel
Once upon a time, Hesty wrote :
> I know they're all included in the freshrpms alsa-null
> directory.
Now that Psyche is released, that directory was erased.
> I was worried that with the new mplayer-pre8, these
> packages might break something. Is there any mplayer
> package which includes all the options for -vo and
> -ao? Is that because alsa is not included in RH, hence
> the lack of alsa option for mplayer from freshrpms?
> Or is there some swtiches to enable these options
> during
> rpm build?
For all my recent packages that support --with and --without options, I've
put them in the %description section. See for instance :
http://psyche.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=80
Where you can see :
Available rpmbuild rebuild options :
--with : alsa
--without : aalib lirc libdv arts
The ogle package has also a --with alsa option, and I've had a bug report
about xine that I apparently unintentionally compiled with ALSA directly
:-/
I'd like to aks this on the rpm-zzzlist : Would a new dependency of 250k, the
alsa-lib package, for many packages (mplayer, ogle, xine) be a problem for
the freshrpms.net packages users? As I really feel like blending ALSA in
now, especially since I've just spent some time recompiling alsa-kernel
package for all the Psyche kernels!!!
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Re: apt 0.5.7 on RH 7.x
Once upon a time, Ralf wrote :
> Are there any reasons _not_ to use the new apt releases on RH 7.x?
Hmmm... I don't see any :-)
My main concern is that when rebuilding the recent packages I've made for
Psyche on Valhalla, I'd need to lower the "Release:" tag (to keep an
upgrade working), and that would f*ck up my CVS repository which is on my
Valhalla box (well, I'm exagerating, It'll just make it more difficult for
me) ;-)
Sure, there are easy ways around this, but the easiest for me will be to
wait until I upgrade my main box to Psyche and have Valhalla only on a
secondary rebuild system.
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Re: apt 0.5.7 on RH 7.x
Hi.
Matthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:
> My main concern is that when rebuilding the recent packages I've made
> for Psyche on Valhalla, I'd need to lower the "Release:" tag (to keep an
> upgrade working), and that would f*ck up my CVS repository which is on
> my Valhalla box
Sorry, I don't get it. What's wrong with a release tag of fr1?
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Re: ALSA Problem with Null kernel
Matthias Saou wrote:
>
> I'd like to aks this on the rpm-zzzlist : Would a new dependency of 250k, the
> alsa-lib package, for many packages (mplayer, ogle, xine) be a problem for
> the freshrpms.net packages users? As I really feel like blending ALSA in
> now, especially since I've just spent some time recompiling alsa-kernel
> package for all the Psyche kernels!!!
I don't know a lot about ALSA, but use custom kernels for many of the
machines -- would this mean, in order to get mplayer (eg) to work, I'd
first have to compile a custom kernel option? or kernel module? Since I
wouldn't have your alsa-kernel(??) installed, would that mean alsa-libs
and so on won't install?
(I guess, in short, if it *requires* the shipped kernel to be used, I'd
be against --with-alsa as a default?)
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Re: ALSA Problem with Null kernel
Once upon a time, Hesty wrote :
> > Where you can see :
> > Available rpmbuild rebuild options :
> > --with : alsa
> > --without : aalib lirc libdv arts
>
> Does this mean when rebuilding the package, I'll
> simply
> type:
> > rpmbuild --rebuild <package>.src.rpm --with alsa ?
Yes it does. And if you're missing the dependencies needed for the selected
options, you'll even be informed! (for ALSA, you'll need alsa-lib-devel for
example)
> > I'd like to aks this on the rpm-zzzlist : Would a new
> > dependency of 250k, the
> > alsa-lib package, for many packages (mplayer, ogle,
> > xine) be a problem for
> > the freshrpms.net packages users? As I really feel
> > like blending ALSA in
> > now, especially since I've just spent some time
> > recompiling alsa-kernel
> > package for all the Psyche kernels!!!
> >
>
> I'll have no problem at all with this and you get my
> vote on this one.
>
> One problem with alsa-kernel that I've experienced:
> everytime RH issues a new kernel update, I have to
> rebuild my alsa-kernel to match the new kernel.
Yup... unfortunately the alsa-kernel needs to be rebuilt for each kernel,
and there's no way of avoiding it.
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