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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him.

The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way?

God's desire for companionship and expression.

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression.

The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error?

The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions.

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression. (Q): The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error? (A): The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions.

The ninth problem concerns the proper symbols, or similes, for the Master, the Christ. Should Jesus be described as the soul who first went through the cycle of earthly lives to attain perfection, including perfection in the planetary lives also?

He should be. This is as the man, see?

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression. (Q): The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error? (A): The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions. (Q): The ninth problem concerns the proper symbols, or similes, for the Master, the Christ. Should Jesus be described as the soul who first went through the cycle of earthly lives to attain perfection, including perfection in the planetary lives also? (A): He should be. This is as the man, see?

The second problem concerns that which is variously called evil, darkness, negation, sin. Should it be said that this condition existed as a necessary element of creation, and the soul, given free will, found itself with the power to indulge in it, or lose itself in it? Or should it be said that this is a condition created by the activity of the soul itself? Should it be described, in either case, as a state of consciousness, a gradual lack of awareness of self and self's relation to God?

It is the free will and its losing itself in its relationship to God.

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression. (Q): The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error? (A): The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions. (Q): The ninth problem concerns the proper symbols, or similes, for the Master, the Christ. Should Jesus be described as the soul who first went through the cycle of earthly lives to attain perfection, including perfection in the planetary lives also? (A): He should be. This is as the man, see? (Q): The second problem concerns that which is variously called evil, darkness, negation, sin. Should it be said that this condition existed as a necessary element of creation, and the soul, given free will, found itself with the power to indulge in it, or lose itself in it? Or should it be said that this is a condition created by the activity of the soul itself? Should it be described, in either case, as a state of consciousness, a gradual lack of awareness of self and self's relation to God? (A): It is the free will and its losing itself in its relationship to God.

The seventh problem concerns implications from the sixth problem. Is it necessary to finish the solar system cycle before going to other systems?

Necessary to finish the solar cycle.

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression. (Q): The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error? (A): The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions. (Q): The ninth problem concerns the proper symbols, or similes, for the Master, the Christ. Should Jesus be described as the soul who first went through the cycle of earthly lives to attain perfection, including perfection in the planetary lives also? (A): He should be. This is as the man, see? (Q): The second problem concerns that which is variously called evil, darkness, negation, sin. Should it be said that this condition existed as a necessary element of creation, and the soul, given free will, found itself with the power to indulge in it, or lose itself in it? Or should it be said that this is a condition created by the activity of the soul itself? Should it be described, in either case, as a state of consciousness, a gradual lack of awareness of self and self's relation to God? (A): It is the free will and its losing itself in its relationship to God. (Q): The seventh problem concerns implications from the sixth problem. Is it necessary to finish the solar system cycle before going to other systems? (A): Necessary to finish the solar cycle.

The sixth problem concerns interplanetary and inter-system dwelling, between earthly lives. It was given through this source that the entity Edgar Cayce, after the experience as Uhjltd, went to the system of Arcturus, and then returned to earth. Does this indicate a usual or an unusual step in soul evolution?

As indicated, or as has been indicated in other sources besides this as respecting this very problem - Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe, through which individuals pass and at which period there comes the choice of the individual as to whether it is to return to complete there - that is, in this planetary system, our sun, the earth sun and its planetary system - or to pass on to others. This was an unusual step, and yet a usual one.

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression. (Q): The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error? (A): The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions. (Q): The ninth problem concerns the proper symbols, or similes, for the Master, the Christ. Should Jesus be described as the soul who first went through the cycle of earthly lives to attain perfection, including perfection in the planetary lives also? (A): He should be. This is as the man, see? (Q): The second problem concerns that which is variously called evil, darkness, negation, sin. Should it be said that this condition existed as a necessary element of creation, and the soul, given free will, found itself with the power to indulge in it, or lose itself in it? Or should it be said that this is a condition created by the activity of the soul itself? Should it be described, in either case, as a state of consciousness, a gradual lack of awareness of self and self's relation to God? (A): It is the free will and its losing itself in its relationship to God. (Q): The seventh problem concerns implications from the sixth problem. Is it necessary to finish the solar system cycle before going to other systems? (A): Necessary to finish the solar cycle. (Q): The sixth problem concerns interplanetary and inter-system dwelling, between earthly lives. It was given through this source that the entity Edgar Cayce, after the experience as Uhjltd, went to the system of Arcturus, and then returned to earth. Does this indicate a usual or an unusual step in soul evolution? (A): As indicated, or as has been indicated in other sources besides this as respecting this very problem - Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe, through which individuals pass and at which period there comes the choice of the individual as to whether it is to return to complete there - that is, in this planetary system, our sun, the earth sun and its planetary system - or to pass on to others. This was an unusual step, and yet a usual one.

The tenth problem concerns the factors of soul evolution. Should mind, the builder, be described as the last development because it should not unfold until it has a firm foundation of emotional virtues?

This might be answered Yes and No, both. But if it is presented in that there is kept, willfully, see, that desire to be in the at-onement, then it is necessary for that attainment before it recognizes mind as the way.

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression. (Q): The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error? (A): The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions. (Q): The ninth problem concerns the proper symbols, or similes, for the Master, the Christ. Should Jesus be described as the soul who first went through the cycle of earthly lives to attain perfection, including perfection in the planetary lives also? (A): He should be. This is as the man, see? (Q): The second problem concerns that which is variously called evil, darkness, negation, sin. Should it be said that this condition existed as a necessary element of creation, and the soul, given free will, found itself with the power to indulge in it, or lose itself in it? Or should it be said that this is a condition created by the activity of the soul itself? Should it be described, in either case, as a state of consciousness, a gradual lack of awareness of self and self's relation to God? (A): It is the free will and its losing itself in its relationship to God. (Q): The seventh problem concerns implications from the sixth problem. Is it necessary to finish the solar system cycle before going to other systems? (A): Necessary to finish the solar cycle. (Q): The sixth problem concerns interplanetary and inter-system dwelling, between earthly lives. It was given through this source that the entity Edgar Cayce, after the experience as Uhjltd, went to the system of Arcturus, and then returned to earth. Does this indicate a usual or an unusual step in soul evolution? (A): As indicated, or as has been indicated in other sources besides this as respecting this very problem - Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe, through which individuals pass and at which period there comes the choice of the individual as to whether it is to return to complete there - that is, in this planetary system, our sun, the earth sun and its planetary system - or to pass on to others. This was an unusual step, and yet a usual one. (Q): The tenth problem concerns the factors of soul evolution. Should mind, the builder, be described as the last development because it should not unfold until it has a firm foundation of emotional virtues? (A): This might be answered Yes and No, both. But if it is presented in that there is kept, willfully, see, that desire to be in the at-onement, then it is necessary for that attainment before it recognizes mind as the way.

The third problem has to do with the fall of man. Should this be described as something which was inevitable in the destiny of souls, or something which God did not desire, but which He did not prevent once He had given free will? The problem here is to reconcile the omniscience of God and His knowledge of all things with the free will of the soul and the soul's fall from grace.

He did not prevent, once having given free will. For, He made the individual entities or souls in the beginning. For, the beginnings of sin, of course, were in seeking expression of themselves outside of the plan or the way in which God had expressed same. Thus it was the individual, see? Having given free will, then - though having the foreknowledge, though being omnipotent and omnipresent - it is only when the soul that is a portion of God CHOOSES that God knows the end thereof.

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression. (Q): The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error? (A): The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions. (Q): The ninth problem concerns the proper symbols, or similes, for the Master, the Christ. Should Jesus be described as the soul who first went through the cycle of earthly lives to attain perfection, including perfection in the planetary lives also? (A): He should be. This is as the man, see? (Q): The second problem concerns that which is variously called evil, darkness, negation, sin. Should it be said that this condition existed as a necessary element of creation, and the soul, given free will, found itself with the power to indulge in it, or lose itself in it? Or should it be said that this is a condition created by the activity of the soul itself? Should it be described, in either case, as a state of consciousness, a gradual lack of awareness of self and self's relation to God? (A): It is the free will and its losing itself in its relationship to God. (Q): The seventh problem concerns implications from the sixth problem. Is it necessary to finish the solar system cycle before going to other systems? (A): Necessary to finish the solar cycle. (Q): The sixth problem concerns interplanetary and inter-system dwelling, between earthly lives. It was given through this source that the entity Edgar Cayce, after the experience as Uhjltd, went to the system of Arcturus, and then returned to earth. Does this indicate a usual or an unusual step in soul evolution? (A): As indicated, or as has been indicated in other sources besides this as respecting this very problem - Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe, through which individuals pass and at which period there comes the choice of the individual as to whether it is to return to complete there - that is, in this planetary system, our sun, the earth sun and its planetary system - or to pass on to others. This was an unusual step, and yet a usual one. (Q): The tenth problem concerns the factors of soul evolution. Should mind, the builder, be described as the last development because it should not unfold until it has a firm foundation of emotional virtues? (A): This might be answered Yes and No, both. But if it is presented in that there is kept, willfully, see, that desire to be in the at-onement, then it is necessary for that attainment before it recognizes mind as the way. (Q): The third problem has to do with the fall of man. Should this be described as something which was inevitable in the destiny of souls, or something which God did not desire, but which He did not prevent once He had given free will? The problem here is to reconcile the omniscience of God and His knowledge of all things with the free will of the soul and the soul's fall from grace. (A): He did not prevent, once having given free will. For, He made the individual entities or souls in the beginning. For, the beginnings of sin, of course, were in seeking expression of themselves outside of the plan or the way in which God had expressed same. Thus it was the individual, see? Having given free will, then - though having the foreknowledge, though being omnipotent and omnipresent - it is only when the soul that is a portion of God CHOOSES that God knows the end thereof.

What action of the early church, or council, can be mentioned as that which ruled reincarnation from Christian theology?

Just as indicated - the attempts of individuals to accept or take advantage of, because of this knowledge, see?

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(Q): Are hereditary, environment and will equal factors in aiding or retarding the entity's development? (A): Will is the greater factor, for it may overcome any or all of the others; provided that will is made one with the pattern, see? For, no influence of heredity, environment or what not, surpasses the will; else why would there have been that pattern shown in which the individual soul, no matter how far astray it may have gone, may enter with Him into the holy of holies? (Q): Are there several patterns which a soul might take on, depending on what phase of development it wished to work upon - i.e., could a soul choose to be one of several personalities, any of which would fit its individuality? (A): Correct. (Q): Can oneness be attained - or the finish of evolution reached - on any system, or must it be in a particular one? (A): Depending upon what system the entity has entered, to be sure. It may be completed in any of the many systems. (Q): Do souls become entangled in other systems as they did in this system? (A): In other systems that represent the same as the earth does in this system, yes. (Q): Does the incoming soul take on of necessity some of the parents' karma? (A): Because of its relative relationship to same, yes. Otherwise, no. (Q): Does the soul itself have an earthly pattern which fits back into the one created by the parents? (A): Just as indicated, it is relative - as one related to another; and because of the union of activities they are brought in the pattern. For in such there is the explanation of universal or divine laws, which are ever one and the same; as indicated in the expression that God moved within Himself and then He didn't change, though did bring to Himself that of His own being made crucified even in the flesh. (Q): Is the average fulfillment of the soul's expectation more or less than fifty percent? (A): It's a continuous advancement, so it is more than fifty percent. (Q): Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters? (A): Hold fast to that ideal, and using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that NECESSITY for each to meet the same problems. And DO NOT attempt to shed or to surpass or go around the Cross. THIS is that upon which each and every soul MUST look and know it is to be borne in self WITH Him. We are through for the present. Copy to Thomas Sugrue Ass'n file (Q): Must the solar cycle be finished on earth, or can it be completed on another planet, or does each planet have a cycle of its own which must be finished? (A): If it is begun on the earth it must be finished on the earth. The solar system of which the earth is a part is only a portion of the whole. For, as indicated in the number of planets about the earth, they are of one and the same - and they are relative one to another. It is the cycle of the whole system that is finished, see? (Q): Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began. (A): First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedek, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. (Q): Should the Christ-Consciousness be described as the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God? (A): Correct. That's the idea exactly! (Q): Should this be described as a voluntary mission One Who was already perfected and returned to God, having accomplished His Oneness in other planes and systems? (A): Correct. (Q): The eighth problem concerns the pattern made by parents at conception. Should it be said that this pattern attracts a certain soul because it approximates conditions which that soul wishes to work with? (A): It approximates conditions. It does not set. For, the individual entity or soul, given the opportunity, has its own free will to work in or out of those problems as presented by that very union. Yet the very union, of course, attracts or brings a channel or an opportunity for the expression of an individual entity. (Q): The eleventh problem concerns a parallel with Christianity. Is Gnosticism the closest type of Christianity to that which is given through this source? (A): This is a parallel, and was the commonly accepted one until there began to be set rules in which there were the attempts to take short cuts. And there are none in Christianity! (Q): The fifth problem concerns an explanation of the Life Readings. From a study of these it seems that there is a trend downward, from early incarnations, toward greater earthliness and less mentality. Then there is a swing upward, accompanied by suffering, patience, and understanding. Is this the normal pattern, which results in virtue and oneness with God obtained by free will and mind? (A): This is correct. It is the pattern as it is set in Him. (Q): The first problem concerns the reason for creation. Should this be given as God's desire to experience Himself, God's desire for companionship, God's desire for expression, or in some other way? (A): God's desire for companionship and expression. (Q): The fourth problem concerns man's tenancy on earth. Was it originally intended that souls remain out of earthly forms, and were the races originated as a necessity resulting from error? (A): The earth and its manifestations were only the expression of God and not necessarily as a place of tenancy for the souls of men, until man was created - to meet the needs of existing conditions. (Q): The ninth problem concerns the proper symbols, or similes, for the Master, the Christ. Should Jesus be described as the soul who first went through the cycle of earthly lives to attain perfection, including perfection in the planetary lives also? (A): He should be. This is as the man, see? (Q): The second problem concerns that which is variously called evil, darkness, negation, sin. Should it be said that this condition existed as a necessary element of creation, and the soul, given free will, found itself with the power to indulge in it, or lose itself in it? Or should it be said that this is a condition created by the activity of the soul itself? Should it be described, in either case, as a state of consciousness, a gradual lack of awareness of self and self's relation to God? (A): It is the free will and its losing itself in its relationship to God. (Q): The seventh problem concerns implications from the sixth problem. Is it necessary to finish the solar system cycle before going to other systems? (A): Necessary to finish the solar cycle. (Q): The sixth problem concerns interplanetary and inter-system dwelling, between earthly lives. It was given through this source that the entity Edgar Cayce, after the experience as Uhjltd, went to the system of Arcturus, and then returned to earth. Does this indicate a usual or an unusual step in soul evolution? (A): As indicated, or as has been indicated in other sources besides this as respecting this very problem - Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe, through which individuals pass and at which period there comes the choice of the individual as to whether it is to return to complete there - that is, in this planetary system, our sun, the earth sun and its planetary system - or to pass on to others. This was an unusual step, and yet a usual one. (Q): The tenth problem concerns the factors of soul evolution. Should mind, the builder, be described as the last development because it should not unfold until it has a firm foundation of emotional virtues? (A): This might be answered Yes and No, both. But if it is presented in that there is kept, willfully, see, that desire to be in the at-onement, then it is necessary for that attainment before it recognizes mind as the way. (Q): The third problem has to do with the fall of man. Should this be described as something which was inevitable in the destiny of souls, or something which God did not desire, but which He did not prevent once He had given free will? The problem here is to reconcile the omniscience of God and His knowledge of all things with the free will of the soul and the soul's fall from grace. (A): He did not prevent, once having given free will. For, He made the individual entities or souls in the beginning. For, the beginnings of sin, of course, were in seeking expression of themselves outside of the plan or the way in which God had expressed same. Thus it was the individual, see? Having given free will, then - though having the foreknowledge, though being omnipotent and omnipresent - it is only when the soul that is a portion of God CHOOSES that God knows the end thereof. (Q): What action of the early church, or council, can be mentioned as that which ruled reincarnation from Christian theology? (A): Just as indicated - the attempts of individuals to accept or take advantage of, because of this knowledge, see?

You will have before you the enquiring mind of the entity, Thomas Sugrue, present in this room, and certain of the problems which confront him in composing the manuscript of THERE IS A RIVER. The entity is now ready to describe the philosophical concepts which have been given through this source, and wishes to parallel and align them with known religious tenets, especially those of Christian theology. The entity does not wish to set forth a system of thought, nor imply that all questions of a philosophical nature can be answered through this source - the limitations of the finite mind prevent this. But the entity wishes to answer those questions which will naturally arise in the mind of the reader, and many of the questions which are being asked by all people in the world today. Therefore the entity presents certain problems and questions, which you will answer as befits the entity's understanding and the task of interpretation before him.

Yes, we have the enquiring mind, Thomas Sugrue, and those problems, those questions that arise in the mind of the entity at this period. Ready for questions.

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The first recorded miracle at the wedding in Cana of Galilee when the Master changed water into wine. The entity desires again such details as weather, names of people in wedding, food and drink, games and dances, etc.

A great deal of that leading to the experience, to be sure, is being skipped over. For, that came about soon after the return of the Master from the Jordan, and his dwelling by the sea, his conversation with Peter - after Andrew had told Peter of the happenings at the Jordan; and there was the wedding in Cana of Galilee. The girl was a relative of those close to the Mother of Jesus, who prepared the wedding feast - as was the custom in that period, and is yet among those of the Jewish faith who adhere to the traditions as well as custom of those people chosen as the channel because of their purpose with God. The girl to be wed was a daughter of the cousin of Mary, a daughter of a younger sister of Elizabeth, whose name was also Mary. And she was the one spoken of as `the other Mary,` and not as some have supposed. [See 2946-3 on 6/18/43 verifying this.] The customs required that there be a feast, which was composed of the roasted lamb with the herbs, the breads that had been prepared in the special ways as were the custom and tradition of those who followed close to the faith in Moses' law, Moses' custom, Moses' ordinances. The families of Mary were present, as well as those of the groom. The groom, in the name Roael, was among the sons of Zebedee; being an elder brother of James and John who later became the close friends and the closer followers of Jesus. The Master, returning with those who were hangers-on, naturally sought to speak with His mother. Learning of this happening He, too, with the followers, were bid to remain at the feast. Much wine also was part of the custom. The day was what ye would call June third. There were plenty of flowers and things of the field, yet only a part of those things needed. For, the custom called for more of the meats prepared with certain herbs, and wines. The day had been fine; the evening was fair; the moon was full. This then brought the activities with the imbibing more and more of wine, more hilarity, and the dance - which was in the form of the circles that were a part of the customs, not only of that land then but that are in your own land now and then being revived. With those activities, as indicated, the wine ran low. Remember, the sons of Zebedee were among those of the upper class, as would be termed; not the poorer ones. Thence the reason why Mary served or prepared for her relative the feast. From those happenings that were a portion of her experience upon their return from Egypt - as to how the increase had come in the food when they had been turned aside as they journeyed back towards the Promised Land - Mary felt, knew, was convinced within herself that here again there might be such an experience, with her son returning as a man starting upon his mission. For, what was the pronouncement to the mother when Gabriel spoke to her? What was the happening with Elizabeth when the mother spoke to her? This might be called a first period of test. For, had He not just ten days ago sent Satan away, and received ministry from the angels? This had come to be known as hearsay. Hence the natural questioning of the mother-love for the purposes; this son - strange in many ways had chosen, by the dwelling in the wilderness for the forty days, and then the returning to the lowly people, the fishermen, about this country. It brought on the questioning by the mother. We are through for the present.

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(Q): The first recorded miracle at the wedding in Cana of Galilee when the Master changed water into wine. The entity desires again such details as weather, names of people in wedding, food and drink, games and dances, etc. (A): A great deal of that leading to the experience, to be sure, is being skipped over. For, that came about soon after the return of the Master from the Jordan, and his dwelling by the sea, his conversation with Peter - after Andrew had told Peter of the happenings at the Jordan; and there was the wedding in Cana of Galilee. The girl was a relative of those close to the Mother of Jesus, who prepared the wedding feast - as was the custom in that period, and is yet among those of the Jewish faith who adhere to the traditions as well as custom of those people chosen as the channel because of their purpose with God. The girl to be wed was a daughter of the cousin of Mary, a daughter of a younger sister of Elizabeth, whose name was also Mary. And she was the one spoken of as `the other Mary,` and not as some have supposed. [See 2946-3 on 6/18/43 verifying this.] The customs required that there be a feast, which was composed of the roasted lamb with the herbs, the breads that had been prepared in the special ways as were the custom and tradition of those who followed close to the faith in Moses' law, Moses' custom, Moses' ordinances. The families of Mary were present, as well as those of the groom. The groom, in the name Roael, was among the sons of Zebedee; being an elder brother of James and John who later became the close friends and the closer followers of Jesus. The Master, returning with those who were hangers-on, naturally sought to speak with His mother. Learning of this happening He, too, with the followers, were bid to remain at the feast. Much wine also was part of the custom. The day was what ye would call June third. There were plenty of flowers and things of the field, yet only a part of those things needed. For, the custom called for more of the meats prepared with certain herbs, and wines. The day had been fine; the evening was fair; the moon was full. This then brought the activities with the imbibing more and more of wine, more hilarity, and the dance - which was in the form of the circles that were a part of the customs, not only of that land then but that are in your own land now and then being revived. With those activities, as indicated, the wine ran low. Remember, the sons of Zebedee were among those of the upper class, as would be termed; not the poorer ones. Thence the reason why Mary served or prepared for her relative the feast. From those happenings that were a portion of her experience upon their return from Egypt - as to how the increase had come in the food when they had been turned aside as they journeyed back towards the Promised Land - Mary felt, knew, was convinced within herself that here again there might be such an experience, with her son returning as a man starting upon his mission. For, what was the pronouncement to the mother when Gabriel spoke to her? What was the happening with Elizabeth when the mother spoke to her? This might be called a first period of test. For, had He not just ten days ago sent Satan away, and received ministry from the angels? This had come to be known as hearsay. Hence the natural questioning of the mother-love for the purposes; this son - strange in many ways had chosen, by the dwelling in the wilderness for the forty days, and then the returning to the lowly people, the fishermen, about this country. It brought on the questioning by the mother. We are through for the present.

You will have before you the enquiring mind of the entity Thomas Sugrue, present in this room, who seeks a continuation of information given on the life of the Master and its history in the material world, given in Readings of June 27, 1937 [5749-7 and 5749-8]. Because of the purpose for which this information is to be used, he asks at this time for a description of a literary nature of certain events in the life of the Master which are known to us in outline but not in detail. You will give these as presented - first the birth of the Master at Bethlehem beginning with the arrival of Mary and Joseph at the Inn. You will include such details as weather, time, conversation with Inn Keeper, number of people at the Inn, types they represented, recreations and occupations engaged in during the evening, what was being eaten and drunk, whether the guests knew the Child was being born, actual time of birth, etc.

Yes, we have the information that has been indicated respecting some of the events surrounding the birth of Jesus, the son of Mary, in Bethlehem of Judea. The purposes are well known, for which the journey was made in the period. The activities of Joseph are well known. The variation or difference in their ages is not so oft dealt upon. Neither is there much indicated in sacred or profane history as to the preparation of the mother for that channel through which immaculate conception might take place. And this, the immaculate conception, is a stumblingstone to many worldly-wise. The arrival was in the evening - not as counted from the Roman time, nor that declared to Moses by God when the second passover was to be kept, nor that same time which was in common usage even in that land, but what would NOW represent January sixth. The weather was cool, and there were crowds on the way. For, it was only a sabbath day's journey from Jerusalem. There were great crowds of people on the way from the hills of Judea. The people were active in the occupations of the varied natures in that unusual land. Some were carpenters - as those of the house of Joseph, who had been delayed, even on the journey, by the condition of the Mother. Some in the group were helpers to Joseph - carpenters' helpers. Then there were shepherds, husbandmen, and the varied groups that had their small surroundings as necessitated by the conditions of the fields about Nazareth. In the evening then, or at twilight, Joseph approached the Inn, that was filled with those who had also journeyed there on their way to be polled for the tax as imposed by the Romans upon the people of the land. For, those had been sent out who were to judge the abilities of the varied groups to be taxed. And each individual was required by the Roman law to be polled in the city of his birth. Both Joseph and Mary were members of the sect called the Essenes; and thus they were questioned by those not only in the political but in the religious authority in the cities. Then there was the answer by the inn keeper, `No room in the inn,` especially for such an occasion. Laughter and jeers followed, at the sight of the elderly man with the beautiful girl, his wife, heavy with child. Disappointments were written upon not only the face of Joseph but the inn keeper's daughter, as well as those of certain groups about the inn. For, many saw the possibilities of an unusual story that might be gained if the birth were to take place in the inn. Also there was consternation outside, among those who had heard that Joseph and Mary had arrived and were not given a room. They began to seek some place, some shelter. For, remember, many of those - too - were of that questioned group; who had heard of that girl, that lovely wife of Joseph who had been chosen by the angels on the stair; who had heard of what had taken place in the hills where Elizabeth had gone, when there was the visit from the cousin - and as to those things which had also come to pass in her experience. Such stories were whispered from one to another. Thus many joined in the search for some place. Necessity demanded that some place be sought - quickly. Then it was found, under the hill, in the stable - above which the shepherds were gathering their flocks into the fold. There the Savior, the Child was born; who, through the will and the life manifested, became the Savior of the world - that channel through which those of old had been told that the promise would be fulfilled that was made to EVE; the arising again of another like unto Moses; and as given to David, the promise was not to depart from that channel. But lower and lower man's concept of needs had fallen. Then - when hope seemed gone - the herald angels sang. The star appeared, that made the wonderment to the shepherds, that caused the awe and consternation to all of those about the Inn; some making fun, some smitten with conviction that those unkind things said must needs be readjusted in their relationships to things coming to pass. All were in awe as the brightness of His star appeared and shone, as the music of the spheres brought that joyful choir, `PEACE ON EARTH! GOOD WILL TO MEN OF GOOD FAITH.` ALL felt the vibrations and saw a great light - not only the shepherds above that stable but those in the Inn as well. To be sure, those conditions were later to be dispelled by the doubters, who told the people that they had been overcome with wine or what not. Just as the midnight hour came, there was the birth of the Master. The daughter of the inn keeper was soon upon the scene, as was the mother of the daughter, and the shepherds that answered the cry - and had gone to see what was come to pass. Those were the manners, and the ones present soon afterwards. For, through the period of purification the Mother remained there, not deeming it best to leave, though all forms of assistance were offered; not leaving until there was the circumcision and the presenting in the temple to the magi, to Anna and to Simeon. Such were the surroundings at the period of the birth of Jesus.

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You will have before you the Glad Helpers Prayer Group, members of which are present in this room, who seek a continuation of information given through this channel on the life of the Master and its history in the material world. You will give a description of certain events in the life of the Master, particularly the healings of the Master. You will answer the questions that may be asked.

Yes, we have the group as gathered here, as a group and as individuals; their purposes, their aims. In interpreting the life of the Master, Jesus - as has been indicated, His birth, His advent into the material world brought satisfaction, and yet consternation to the many. This was indicated a few months afterward, when - with the return of the Mother and Joseph to Nazareth - there was the edict that all children up to two years of age were to be destroyed. Indeed did Rachel weep for her sons. Through the experience, though, as has been indicated, there were those precautions. There was that journey into Egypt, which is recorded in the varied manners in Matthew and in Luke. To many there might be questionings as to whether Mary was informed of the necessity for the flight, or merely Joseph - as Matthew records. However, as we find, they were of one mind, and the flight into Egypt - as is recorded - was the fulfilling of the prophecy. For, it had been said, `and my son shall be called from Egypt.` The period of stay in Egypt was something over two and one-half years - until another ruler was in authority or power. Then there was the return. Through that period there were many of the stories that have come down as legends, even of those people in some portions of Egypt and of Arabia, as to the happenings along the way, as to how there were the unusual happenings - indicating not only the divinity of the Child but that purpose later recorded, `And she kept all of these and pondered them in her heart.` After the journey to Jerusalem, there were the periods of education in Syria, India, the completing again of the activities in Egypt; and the passing of the tests there by those who were of the Essene group, as they entered into the service - as did the Master and John before Him. As to the healings, the miracles performed by the Master, - of course, the first recorded begins with that in Capernaum, or in Cana and nigh unto Capernaum, when He had so recently returned from the wilderness - or the visit to John - when the water was turned into wine. Then there was the healing of Simon Peter's wife's mother, of a fever. It was one of the few instances where healings were performed among His own people, among His own kindred. Some might easily ask the question: If He were the healer, why was it necessary that Joseph pass away? Did the Master come to be about HIS work or His Father's work? As individuals, as representatives of the Master, as brothers, as heirs with Him, do we go about our Father's work or our work? There is the variation. Respecting the miracles of healing, there were many instances where individual healings were of the nature as to be instantaneous - as that when He said to him sick of the palsy, `Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.` When the questionings came (as He knew they would), He answered `Which is it easier to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee, or Arise, take up thy bed and go unto thine house?` IMMEDIATELY the man arose, took up his bed and WENT unto his house! Here we find that it was not by the command, but by His own personage. For, the question was not as to whether He healed but as to whether He had the power to forgive sin! The recognition was that sin had caused the physical disturbance. Then, these are part of the experiences of each and every soul in their search for, in their relationships with their fellow man. Ye may ask, does this apply in the present? `In Him ye live, ye move, ye have thy being - If ye love me, saith the Master, ye will keep my commandments. My commandments are not grievous; my commandment is that ye love one another, even as I have loved you. If ye love me, I - and the Father - will come and ABIDE with thee.` 17. Believe ye His words? Just as experienced by those who stood about the grave of him, the brother of those whom the Lord loved - when He spoke, death itself gave up that it had claimed, even though the sister had warned that there had not been the embalming as had been the purposes of many. Instantly the activity brought life. For He IS life. He IS health, He IS beauty, He IS - not was, not will be, but IS! For He having overcome death, hell and the grave, He is justified before God in giving to him who believes, who is in accord; that `If ye ask in my name, believing,` doing, being that ye ask for, that shall be done unto thee. Yet with the breaking of the bonds of death, the breaking of the material bonds - the binding about the head - must needs be done by others. There is ever, then - in thy material associations, in thy seeking for help, love, health, understanding for thy brother - SOMETHING, some effort on their part as well as THINE. But `Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there will I be in the midst of them.` These are the influences that all must realize, if they would understand, if they would comprehend, if they would contemplate, if they would seek - that ye cannot give that which ye do not possess. If ye have that love in the Christ, in the giving ye have the more; even as He demonstrated in the giving of life that ye might have life more abundantly, that there might be a closer walk with Him. And as ye walk, ye talk with Him, He talks with thee. `Be not afraid, it is I.` Has this come to thee? Has it not oft been thy experience and ye, in thy doubt, in thy fear of being in His presence, have turned away? `Inasmuch as ye do it unto the least of thy brethren ye do it unto me.` This is for each of you. This is thy Lord, as He would approach thee, that ye in thy grace, in thy love, thy mercy as thou showest to thy brother, may find that love in Him. We are through.

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By what power or powers were these early pyramids and temples constructed?

By the lifting forces of those gases that are being used gradually in the present civilization, and by the fine work or activities of those versed in that pertaining to the source from which all power comes. For, as long as there remains those pure in body, in mind, in activity, to the law of the One God, there is the continued resource for meeting the needs, or for commanding the elements and their activities in the supply of that necessary in such relations.

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(Q): By what power or powers were these early pyramids and temples constructed? (A): By the lifting forces of those gases that are being used gradually in the present civilization, and by the fine work or activities of those versed in that pertaining to the source from which all power comes. For, as long as there remains those pure in body, in mind, in activity, to the law of the One God, there is the continued resource for meeting the needs, or for commanding the elements and their activities in the supply of that necessary in such relations.

Have the most important temples and pyramids been discovered?

Those of the first civilization have been discovered, and have not all been opened; but their associations, their connections, are being replaced - or attempting to be rebuilt. Many of the second and third civilization may NEVER be discovered, for these would destroy the present civilization in Mexico to uncover same!

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(Q): By what power or powers were these early pyramids and temples constructed? (A): By the lifting forces of those gases that are being used gradually in the present civilization, and by the fine work or activities of those versed in that pertaining to the source from which all power comes. For, as long as there remains those pure in body, in mind, in activity, to the law of the One God, there is the continued resource for meeting the needs, or for commanding the elements and their activities in the supply of that necessary in such relations. (Q): Have the most important temples and pyramids been discovered? (A): Those of the first civilization have been discovered, and have not all been opened; but their associations, their connections, are being replaced - or attempting to be rebuilt. Many of the second and third civilization may NEVER be discovered, for these would destroy the present civilization in Mexico to uncover same!

How did the Lost Tribe reach this country?

In boats.

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(Q): By what power or powers were these early pyramids and temples constructed? (A): By the lifting forces of those gases that are being used gradually in the present civilization, and by the fine work or activities of those versed in that pertaining to the source from which all power comes. For, as long as there remains those pure in body, in mind, in activity, to the law of the One God, there is the continued resource for meeting the needs, or for commanding the elements and their activities in the supply of that necessary in such relations. (Q): Have the most important temples and pyramids been discovered? (A): Those of the first civilization have been discovered, and have not all been opened; but their associations, their connections, are being replaced - or attempting to be rebuilt. Many of the second and third civilization may NEVER be discovered, for these would destroy the present civilization in Mexico to uncover same! (Q): How did the Lost Tribe reach this country? (A): In boats.

In which pyramid or temple are the records mentioned in the readings given through this channel on Atlantis, in April, 1932? [[364] series]

As given, that temple was destroyed at the time there was the last destruction in Atlantis. Yet, as time draws nigh when changes are to come about, there may be the opening of those three places where the records are one, to those that are the initiates in the knowledge of the One God: The temple by Iltar will then rise again. Also there will be the opening of the temple or hall of records in Egypt, and those records that were put into the heart of the Atlantean land may also be found there - that have been kept, for those that are of that group. The RECORDS are ONE. We are through for the present. Copy to Mrs. Ernest W. Zentgraf Ass'n file

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(Q): By what power or powers were these early pyramids and temples constructed? (A): By the lifting forces of those gases that are being used gradually in the present civilization, and by the fine work or activities of those versed in that pertaining to the source from which all power comes. For, as long as there remains those pure in body, in mind, in activity, to the law of the One God, there is the continued resource for meeting the needs, or for commanding the elements and their activities in the supply of that necessary in such relations. (Q): Have the most important temples and pyramids been discovered? (A): Those of the first civilization have been discovered, and have not all been opened; but their associations, their connections, are being replaced - or attempting to be rebuilt. Many of the second and third civilization may NEVER be discovered, for these would destroy the present civilization in Mexico to uncover same! (Q): How did the Lost Tribe reach this country? (A): In boats. (Q): In which pyramid or temple are the records mentioned in the readings given through this channel on Atlantis, in April, 1932? [[364] series] (A): As given, that temple was destroyed at the time there was the last destruction in Atlantis. Yet, as time draws nigh when changes are to come about, there may be the opening of those three places where the records are one, to those that are the initiates in the knowledge of the One God: The temple by Iltar will then rise again. Also there will be the opening of the temple or hall of records in Egypt, and those records that were put into the heart of the Atlantean land may also be found there - that have been kept, for those that are of that group. The RECORDS are ONE. We are through for the present. Copy to Mrs. Ernest W. Zentgraf Ass'n file

You will give an historical treatise on the origin and development of the Mayan civilization, answering questions.

Yes. In giving a record of the civilization in this particular portion of the world, it should be remembered that more than one has been and will be found as research progresses. That which we find would be of particular interest would be that which superseded the Aztec civilization, that was so ruthlessly destroyed or interrupted by Cortez. In that preceding this we had rather a combination of sources, or a high civilization that was influenced by injection of forces from other channels, other sources, as will be seen or may be determined by that which may be given. From time as counted in the present we would turn back to 10,600 years before the Prince of Peace came into the land of promise, and find a civilization being disturbed by corruption from within to such measures that the elements join in bringing devastation to a stiffnecked and adulterous people. With the second and third upheavals in Atlantis, there were individuals who left those lands and came to this particular portion then visible. But, understand, the surface was quite different from that which would be viewed in the present. For, rather than being a tropical area it was more of the temperate, and quite varied in the conditions and positions of the face of the areas themselves. In following such a civilization as a historical presentation, it may be better understood by taking into consideration the activities of an individual or group - or their contribution to such a civilization. This of necessity, then, would not make for a complete historical fact, but rather the activities of an individual and the followers, or those that chose one of their own as leader. Then, with the leavings of the civilization in Atlantis (in Poseidia, more specific), Iltar - with a group of followers that had been of the household of Atlan, the followers of the worship of the ONE with some ten individuals - left this land Poseidia, and came westward, entering what would now be a portion of Yucatan. And there began, with the activities of the peoples there, the development into a civilization that rose much in the same matter as that which had been in the Atlantean land. Others had left the land later. Others had left earlier. There had been the upheavals also from the land of Mu, or Lemuria, and these had their part in the changing, or there was the injection of their tenets in the varied portions of the land - which was much greater in extent until the final upheaval of Atlantis, or the islands that were later upheaved, when much of the contour of the land in Central America and Mexico was changed to that similar in outline to that which may be seen in the present. The first temples that were erected by Iltar and his followers were destroyed at the period of change physically in the contours of the land. That now being found, and a portion already discovered that has laid in waste for many centuries, was then a combination of those peoples from Mu, Oz and Atlantis. Hence, these places partook of the earlier portions of that peoples called the Incal; though the Incals were themselves the successors of those of Oz, or Og, in the Peruvian land, and Mu in the southern portions of that now called California and Mexico and southern New Mexico in the United States. This again found a change when there were the injections from those peoples that came with the division of those peoples in that called the promise land. Hence we may find in these ruins that which partakes of the Egyptian, Lemurian and Oz civilizations, and the later activities partaking even of the Mosaic activities. Hence each would ask, what specific thing is there that we may designate as being a portion of the varied civilizations that formed the earlier civilization of this particular land? The stones that are circular, that were of the magnetized influence upon which the Spirit of the One spoke to those peoples as they gathered in their service, are of the earliest Atlantean activities in religious service, we would be called today. The altars upon which there were the cleansings of the bodies of individuals (not human sacrifice; for this came much later with the injection of the Mosaic, and those activities of that area), these were later the altars upon which individual activities - that would today be termed hate, malice, selfishness, self-indulgence - were cleansed from the body through the ceremony, through the rise of initiates from the sources of light, that came from the stones upon which the angels of light during the periods gave their expression to the peoples. The pyramid, the altars before the doors of the varied temple activities, was an injection from the people of Oz and Mu; and will be found to be separate portions, and that referred to in the Scripture as high places of family altars, family gods, that in many portions of the world became again the injection into the activities of groups in various portions, as gradually there were the turnings of the people to the satisfying and gratifying of self's desires, or as the Baal or Baalilal activities again entered the peoples respecting their associations with those truths of light that came from the gods to the peoples, to mankind, in the earth. With the injection of those of greater power in their activity in the land, during that period as would be called 3,000 years before the Prince of Peace came, those peoples that were of the Lost Tribes, a portion came into the land; infusing their activities upon the peoples from Mu in the southernmost portion of that called America or United States, and then moved on to the activities in Mexico, Yucatan, centralizing that now about the spots where the central of Mexico now stands, or Mexico City. Hence there arose through the age a different civilization, a MIXTURE again. Those in Yucatan, those in the adjoining lands as begun by Iltar, gradually lost in their activities; and came to be that people termed, in other portions of America, the Mound Builders. Ready for questions.

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You will have before you the body and the enquiring mind of Edgar Cayce, present in this room, and the body's desire to give information concerning Numerology to those who have been attending his talks from time to time. You will please outline such a talk.

Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, Edgar Cayce - this we have had before. Now, as concerning an outline for information concerning or regarding numerology - many have approached the subject from various angles, and since there have been regular radio programs concerning same a great deal of speculation has been brought in the minds of many. To approach the subject from the viewpoint as to make same worth while in the lives of individuals is the PURPOSE of this discourse. Then, as there is the necessity then of looking at the matter from more of a statistical or scientific standpoint, then let each apply same according to the dictates of their individual conscience or developments. As may be surmised from the fact that the ancients in all lands have and did place the interest in numbers, these indicate that individuals under different circumstances gave to numbers certain valuations, principally according to the INFLUENCES same were SUPPOSED to have upon the ritual or the form of individual worship in some manner or another. Hence we see that under varying circumstances there were attributed certain powers to certain numbers, according to the form or ritual of that individual group. As to whether these actually exist or not depended much upon the confidence or faith of the subjects in that ritual, that rite, that belief; yet when one looks about them they may see that in a scientific manner there are numbers that break or form combinations in nature itself, or that in man's response to the conditions IN nature there are the recurrent conditions or circumstances in certain numbers. As we find in music, that the scale itself is composed of so many tones, tone values, and that those numbers that are half pitch or half tones are those that in most of the formulas given are the breaking points or divisions in numbers. The same may be seen in color combination, that when certain tones or the valuation of tone in color, that in the combination of certain numbers these begin to alter or change much in the same manner or way as they do in tones in music. The same may also be illustrated in the elements themselves, when there is the division of those elements these same numbers, same conditions, are seen in the elements in their variations themselves. Then, is it any WONDER that the ancients - or even the students of the mystic, or the mental or occult forces of today give credence or valuation to numerology, or numbers? Then, what form, what force, has given the most perfect illustration of HOW numbers - either in individual life or individuals' experiences in life - affect individuals; or the numbers themselves, and as individuals, or 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, OR what not - how do the NUMBERS THEMSELVES value? Possibly the best authority on such is that of the Talismanic, or that obtained from the Talmud - which is a combination of the ancient Persian or Chaldean, Egyptian, Indian, Indo-China, and such. ONE is the beginning, to be sure. Before ONE is nothing. After ONE is nothing, if all be IN ONE - as ONE God, ONE Son, ONE Spirit. This, then, the ESSENCE of ALL force, ALL manners of energies. All activities EMANATE from the ONE. TWO - the COMBINATION, and begins a division of the whole, or the One. While TWO makes for strength, it ALSO makes for weakness. This is ILLUSTRATED in that of your music, of your paintings, of your metals, of WHATEVER element we may consider! THREE - again a combination of One and Two; this making for strength, making for - in division - that ability of Two AGAINST One, or One against Two. In THIS strength is seen, as in the Godhead, and is as a greater strength in the whole of combinations. Again, in FOUR, we find that of a division - and while a beauty in strength, in the divisions also makes for the greater weakness - as may be illustrated as in the combinations seen in metal, or numbers, or music, or color. FIVE - as seen, a change - as may be seen in a comparison of any of the forces outlined. SIX - again makes for the BEAUTY and the symmetrical forces of ALL NUMBERS, making for strength; As does SEVEN signify the SPIRITUAL forces, as are seen in all the ritualistic orders of any nature; as seen in the dividing up of conditions, whether they be of the forces in nature or those that react to the sensual forces of man in any character. EIGHT - again showing that combination in strength, also a combination in weakness; NINE making for the COMPLETENESS in numbers; yet showing not the strength as of Ten, nor yet the weakness as of Eight, yet making for that termination in the FORCES in natural ORDER of things that come as a change imminent in the life. In TEN we have those of the completeness as of numbers, and a strength as is found in FEW; yet these are as a combination in the forces as are manifest. In ELEVEN is again seen those of the BEAUTY of numbers, yet that weakness as was signified by those of the betrayal in the numbers. TWELVE as a FINISHED product, as is given in all forces in nature; as was given in all forces as combined to those of the ritualistic forms, those of the mystic forces, those of the numbers as related to those of a combination; for as of the voices of TWELVE requiring Twenty to even drown same, or to overcome same. The same as may be seen in all of the forces in nature. TWELVE combined forces brought those strengths into the world as of [were] necessary for a replenishing of same. Now, how may we apply same to our daily lives? How - or what is MY number? How do numbers affect me? Numerology, or numbers, may be termed as one of the NON-essentials to those who feel or know that same cannot affect them, unless they allow same to affect them. Just so with any other force as in nature, will there be set within self that which is as to be combative against every other force THAT force may affect little or none at all, dependent upon the activities of that being guarded against or guarded with. So, in approaching or reaching the effect of numbers: The period of the year - dependent, of course, upon that point reasoned from. The numbers, or the name - these give the significance to the numbers of the individual. These may be reached either by adding the numbers of the letters as signify the name, or the numbers as applied TO each individual letter IN the name. These will give the sum total of that which applies to the individual. How do they affect the individual? It will be found that one, then, that is of a given number - from the name given - is under those influences that have been indicated by the influences of numbers in the forces, or among the forces, in nature itself. These may be reached by the various forces or various manners in which individuals have CLASSIFIED same. In applying same, use them for the BENEFITS - and not for the destructive forces! We are through. Copy to Edgar Cayce ` ` File

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You will please outline fully the information which Edgar Cayce, present in this room, should give in lecture form on the subject `How to Develop Your Psychic Powers`, to be given during the Congress of the Ass'n for Research & Enlightenment during the week of June 27th.

As in the approach to such a subject, well that we first define psychic phenomena and that through which same operates in the physical man, that we may know how or why such forces, or phenomena, might be developed in an individual. When one develops their muscle and brawn for the ring, or for any activity of such nature, there are certain rules of living that must, or that have been found to be necessary for such an one to adhere to. When a faculty of the body, as a pianist, or cornetist, or an artist, is to be developed, there are certain courses of development, certain training through which the body-physical, the body-mental, shall pass as TRAINING self for such an undertaking. When one, then, is to develop a faculty, or a force, that is present - as any of these referred to, lying latent in one form or another in EVERY individual; so, then, do the psychic forces, the psychic faculties, lie dormant or active in every individual, and await only that awakening or arousing, or the developing under those environs that makes for the accentuation of same in the individual. As the psychic forces are manifesting, or do manifest through the senses, or those portions of the physical being that are trained for acuteness, as is one that would be trained for art in the applying or the mixing rather of color, as one that gets the color, or the tone from the violin, or the like, these are percepts of faculties of the sensory organism, and are akin to the soul. The psychic, then, is of the soul, and it operates through faculties of perception, whether hearing, seeing, feeling, or any portions of the sensory system; and those portions of the physical organism, as we know, that find their basis in the honored or dishonored portion of the physical organism - as those of the brain, those of the percepts that deal with glands that function with concept, conceptive thought, constructive thought - or destructive thought, dependent upon that it is fed upon. Much in the manner that a trained physical body may be raised to such power as to meet any antagonist, yet allowed to become unstable - through associations or derangements of the physical body, by the abusing of those laws that govern those portions of the system - is easily defeated, and loses that for which it has trained itself. This we see would follow throughout the whole length and breadth of a developing organism. In psychic forces we find the subconscious mental forces as a means, or manner of expression. Subconscious, we know, also partakes both of that which is a physical dormant consciousness and of the spiritual, or that upon which the body has fed through its activity in a material plane, and is a portion then of the soul of the entity. Hence we find this development depends not only upon one of the experiences, though one experience may make for such an alteration that the activities of the soul, of the mental, of the physical, may be altered so as to be going in the opposite direction from that it had been going in the first premise. So, the warnings are that these forces, these activities, are to have their criterion from which a premise may be made, and the judgment that is brought to a material condition may be seen as to HOW it may operate. We are through for the present. Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce ` ` Cayce file Ass'n file

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You will please continue with the information which Edgar Cayce, present in this room, should give in lecture form on the subject `How to Develop Your Psychic Powers`, to be given during the Congress of the Ass'n for Research & Enlightenment during the week of June 27th.

In the warnings, there are seen many may be gotten from that which might be given in the development of ANY faculty or attribute of the physical or mental body; for the developments of the psychic forces are the development of the SPIRITUAL body, which manifests in and through the physical or mental body. Then, as [to] the question [of] how to develop the psychic forces in an individual body: How may one train their children - SHOULD one train their children - in such directions? SHOULD one have their children become acquainted with their Maker, or their selves? Would one have themselves be on speaking terms with the cosmic forces, with those influences that magnify the spiritual life? When one answers such, SOME would term this something of blasphemy, were this considered from much of the old or the period of orthodox thinking, as it has been termed. Rather may it be said that [is the] thinking of those that would have others think as they think, others feel as they feel. God speaks rather to EVERYONE! Whosoever will may learn of Him. As has been said, there should ever be the criterion, the measuring stick by which all such phenomena may be measured. Would many see the visions that were experienced by the men of old who walked close with God, they would be called extremists (as a mild term), devils, and those that walk with unseen forces; yet there should ever be held the will of the FATHER concerning the influences. Study as to how Hannah consecrated the life of her son to the service of Jehovah, how that [he was] under the influence of the law in every respect and tutored by one who was unable to (or did not, at least) tutor his own. What [was] the difference? The consecration of the body yet unborn! When would one begin, then, to teach or train their children? Many months even before there is the conception, that the influence is WHOLLY of the Giver of good and perfect gifts. How develop the psychic forces? So live in body, in mind, that self may be a channel through which the Creative Forces MAY run. How is the current of life or of modern science used in the commercial world? By preparing a channel through which same may run into, or through, that necessary for the use in the material things. So with the body mentally, physically, spiritually, so make the body, the mind, the spiritual influences, a channel - and the NATURAL consequence will be the manifestations. How best, then, to develop those latent forces in one NOW, those who have reached the years of maturity or responsibility in self? Let that mind be in you as was in Him who thought it not robbery to make Himself equal with God, yet took on Himself the burden of all that through His physical suffering, His privation in body, in mind, there might come the blessings to others. Not self, but others. He, or she, that may lose self, then, for others, may DEVELOP those faculties that will give the greater expression of psychic forces in their experience. What shall I read? Wherewithal shall I be clothed? Where shall I dwell? What shall I eat? and the like, become the questions of many. He that taketh thought of such has ALREADY limited the powers that influence through those forces in life. The NATURAL things, as known and given, are the things that make for the better physical body in normal activity. NORMALCY, not extreme in any manner! and there will be shown thee day by day that which will be the necessary for thine OWN development. To some certain amount of exercise, certain amounts of rest, certain amounts of various characters of breathing, of purification, of prayer, of reading - as is found necessary; but of ALL be true to that thou promiseth that source from which all health, all aid, must come! Don't fool yourself; for you CANNOT fool your Maker, and if there is fooling it is yourself - for your brother will soon find you out! We are through for the present. Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce ` ` Cayce file Ass'n file

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Are there any suggestions of a specific nature which would be of help in the studies to be conducted here in Hyslop House this winter?

In the study of every soul that would be a channel to make known more of the mysteries of this journey of the soul, test each for that which will be constructive in thine own consciousness in the fruits of the Spirit; and the work becomes helpful to all. We are through.

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(Q): Are there any suggestions of a specific nature which would be of help in the studies to be conducted here in Hyslop House this winter? (A): In the study of every soul that would be a channel to make known more of the mysteries of this journey of the soul, test each for that which will be constructive in thine own consciousness in the fruits of the Spirit; and the work becomes helpful to all. We are through.

You will present that which will be beneficial to those present in understanding the relations of sources of psychic information that may be helpful to mankind in his present experience, and how there may be determined that which is truth and that which is false.

Yes. In presenting that which may be helpful, it is understood by many that there is the body, the soul, the spirit. Words are often confusing in describing terms in each of these conditions. Yet, if they are determined for the present, these conditions may aid those seeking to determine or know that which may be helpful and the sources of information that may be presented through any or all of such channels. In the beginning, as matter was impregnated with spirit of the creative influence, there came into being Man in his environment that made for the indwelling of the spirit, with a soul that might be made one with that Creative Energy. That matter became impregnated with spirit arose from the very fact that spirit (separated) had erred, and only through the environ of matter (or flesh) might the attributes of the source of good be manifested. For, the spirit of evil has not, did not, become manifested in matter; only has it moved by or upon or through matter. Hence, as the process of time has moved in and through matter, there has come to man - in the finite mind - the consciousness of the indwelling of soul, spirit, body. Hence, there is (through these influences of the acts of the body in the finite sphere moved upon by the soul, the mind, the spirit) the attempt to make those influences upon the minds, the activities of man in his present state. 7. Then, the sources of information that may be presented to the mind of man in the finite state are reached through comprehending the consciousness of that influence from the sources of all influences that may move upon the consciousness as to become aware of an activity in the impulses of that being, whether from those that have been moved toward the preparations for the dwelling with the creative influences from the beginning or from those that have been moved by those influences that separated that spirit in its first premise before moving into matter in its activity upon that which became the influence in MAN'S mind in the finite state. Hence, as we find, the MIND of man then divided for the understanding into the conscious, physical conscious, the subconscious or under-conscious, or unconscious conscious, and the super or the soul conscious of the individual entity. And, as matter is in its first premise moved upon by the spirit, as to whether this is in accord with the law of the first cause determines the character or kind of information or consciousness that may make its activity or stamp upon the consciousness that receives that imprint. And hence the fruits thereof are the tests of whether the sources of supply are of the Creative Forces or the degrading forces in the application of same in the experience of the individual or entity that receives or becomes conscious of same. For, each soul must seek for its OWN development to the consciousness of being in accord with, and one with, that which is creative in its elemental as well as positive forces in its experience. Hence whether in life as manifested in a material plane or whether in the inter-between, that which has been and is the impelling influence for the consciousness of the individual is the determining influence in that reaction which that individual soul (that is a portion of the Whole) is to become, whether it is to be one with or separate from its creative influence in its experience. Hence, when we put these into those terms in which we may as individuals grasp, all souls must come to the knowledge and consciousness of their oneness with their individuality; yes, their consciousness of being one with the influence that makes for growth to that they worship in their inner selves. Hence the source is from that which has been builded in the experience of a soul, as to what plane, as to what sphere of experience it has become conscious of in its journey from the impregnation of spirit in matter to the spirit in oneness with that which gives it life, its activity, its separation, to make it individual in its relation to the Whole. How to determine that which is good and that which is evil? In the application does the seeker find that which answers to that IT has set as ITS ideal, that IT may worship, that IT may become one with in its consciousness, in its sphere. What separated spirit from its first cause, or [what] causes good and evil? Desire! DESIRE! Hence Desire is the opposite of Will. Will and Desire, one with the Creative Forces of Good, brings all its influence in the realm of activity that makes for that which is constructive in the experience of the soul, the mind, the body, one with the spirit of truth. In seeking, then, ye that seek the souls of men that they may present that which is proof, that which is truth, that which is constructive in a material life, from the souls and spirits of those as they journeyed in the spheres of activity: KNOW in whom, in what THOU believest. If the desire of the heart, the soul of self is constructive in thine own consciousness, then that thou receivest in thine OWN consciousness may not come save from that sphere, that soul, that may - too - be constructive in its progress through that journey that is before each soul in its activity in eternity in which each soul finds itself in a physical, a mental consciousness. Do that which is good, for there has been given in the consciousness of all the fruits of the spirit: Fellowship, kindness, gentleness, patience, long-suffering, love; these be the fruits of the spirit. Against such there is no law. Doubt, fear, avarice, greed, selfishness, self-will; these are the fruits of the evil forces. Against such there IS a law. Self-preservation, then, should be in the fruits of the spirit, as ye seek through any channel to know more of the path from life - from good to good - to life; from death unto life, from evil unto good. Seek and ye shall find. Meditate on the fruits of the Spirit in the inner secrets of the consciousness, and the cells in the body become aware of the awakening of the life in their activity through the body. In the mind, the cells of the mind become aware of the life in the spirit. The spirit of life maketh not afraid. Then, know the way; for those that seek may find. Ready for questions.

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Any other information at this time that would be helpful?

This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file

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(Q): Any other information at this time that would be helpful? (A): This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file

Classify writing as to development of psychic faculties.

One is as good as the other, depending upon the individual. This has just been outlined. It depends upon the individual development, as to which answers for that within the individual's needs. Soul development should be the better, and hence the inspirational; for if the inspirational does not raise self or keep a balance with that set as the standard from the outside, and the standard is set altogether from the unseen sources, the material cannot keep pace with same - see? Hence we oft find those that give the most beautiful in the tenets or principles from the automatic influences live lives in the external world that are quite reverse.

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(Q): Any other information at this time that would be helpful? (A): This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file (Q): Classify writing as to development of psychic faculties. (A): One is as good as the other, depending upon the individual. This has just been outlined. It depends upon the individual development, as to which answers for that within the individual's needs. Soul development should be the better, and hence the inspirational; for if the inspirational does not raise self or keep a balance with that set as the standard from the outside, and the standard is set altogether from the unseen sources, the material cannot keep pace with same - see? Hence we oft find those that give the most beautiful in the tenets or principles from the automatic influences live lives in the external world that are quite reverse.

What is meant by that? Please explain.

The ideas and ideals are to present that which has been good in the experience of the members. That which is found good in the experience of a member in his own personal experience, present for what it is worth in the experience of others.

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(Q): Any other information at this time that would be helpful? (A): This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file (Q): Classify writing as to development of psychic faculties. (A): One is as good as the other, depending upon the individual. This has just been outlined. It depends upon the individual development, as to which answers for that within the individual's needs. Soul development should be the better, and hence the inspirational; for if the inspirational does not raise self or keep a balance with that set as the standard from the outside, and the standard is set altogether from the unseen sources, the material cannot keep pace with same - see? Hence we oft find those that give the most beautiful in the tenets or principles from the automatic influences live lives in the external world that are quite reverse. (Q): What is meant by that? Please explain. (A): The ideas and ideals are to present that which has been good in the experience of the members. That which is found good in the experience of a member in his own personal experience, present for what it is worth in the experience of others.

Will you give some suggestions that will help individuals who seek to develop themselves?

Let such individuals seek. THEN that which is for their needs may be given. But as for an individual giving what will help another, this is rather presumptuous. It is almost as bad as an individual seeking to choose a friend to choose your wife, or choose a friend to choose your friend! Or choose a friend as to how that you shall worship your God, choose the friend as to how that you should act in any of your associations or relations with your inner or higher self! You may seek for yourself! Speak for thine self, John. John, speak for thine self!

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(Q): Any other information at this time that would be helpful? (A): This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file (Q): Classify writing as to development of psychic faculties. (A): One is as good as the other, depending upon the individual. This has just been outlined. It depends upon the individual development, as to which answers for that within the individual's needs. Soul development should be the better, and hence the inspirational; for if the inspirational does not raise self or keep a balance with that set as the standard from the outside, and the standard is set altogether from the unseen sources, the material cannot keep pace with same - see? Hence we oft find those that give the most beautiful in the tenets or principles from the automatic influences live lives in the external world that are quite reverse. (Q): What is meant by that? Please explain. (A): The ideas and ideals are to present that which has been good in the experience of the members. That which is found good in the experience of a member in his own personal experience, present for what it is worth in the experience of others. (Q): Will you give some suggestions that will help individuals who seek to develop themselves? (A): Let such individuals seek. THEN that which is for their needs may be given. But as for an individual giving what will help another, this is rather presumptuous. It is almost as bad as an individual seeking to choose a friend to choose your wife, or choose a friend to choose your friend! Or choose a friend as to how that you shall worship your God, choose the friend as to how that you should act in any of your associations or relations with your inner or higher self! You may seek for yourself! Speak for thine self, John. John, speak for thine self!

Would you advise the development of automatic or inspirational writing for those who seem interested in it?

If that's what they seek, that's what they seek!

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(Q): Any other information at this time that would be helpful? (A): This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file (Q): Classify writing as to development of psychic faculties. (A): One is as good as the other, depending upon the individual. This has just been outlined. It depends upon the individual development, as to which answers for that within the individual's needs. Soul development should be the better, and hence the inspirational; for if the inspirational does not raise self or keep a balance with that set as the standard from the outside, and the standard is set altogether from the unseen sources, the material cannot keep pace with same - see? Hence we oft find those that give the most beautiful in the tenets or principles from the automatic influences live lives in the external world that are quite reverse. (Q): What is meant by that? Please explain. (A): The ideas and ideals are to present that which has been good in the experience of the members. That which is found good in the experience of a member in his own personal experience, present for what it is worth in the experience of others. (Q): Will you give some suggestions that will help individuals who seek to develop themselves? (A): Let such individuals seek. THEN that which is for their needs may be given. But as for an individual giving what will help another, this is rather presumptuous. It is almost as bad as an individual seeking to choose a friend to choose your wife, or choose a friend to choose your friend! Or choose a friend as to how that you shall worship your God, choose the friend as to how that you should act in any of your associations or relations with your inner or higher self! You may seek for yourself! Speak for thine self, John. John, speak for thine self! (Q): Would you advise the development of automatic or inspirational writing for those who seem interested in it? (A): If that's what they seek, that's what they seek!

Would you advise the presentation of any material on automatic or inspirational writing at any of the Congress meetings?

Rather as is received, then give.

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(Q): Any other information at this time that would be helpful? (A): This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file (Q): Classify writing as to development of psychic faculties. (A): One is as good as the other, depending upon the individual. This has just been outlined. It depends upon the individual development, as to which answers for that within the individual's needs. Soul development should be the better, and hence the inspirational; for if the inspirational does not raise self or keep a balance with that set as the standard from the outside, and the standard is set altogether from the unseen sources, the material cannot keep pace with same - see? Hence we oft find those that give the most beautiful in the tenets or principles from the automatic influences live lives in the external world that are quite reverse. (Q): What is meant by that? Please explain. (A): The ideas and ideals are to present that which has been good in the experience of the members. That which is found good in the experience of a member in his own personal experience, present for what it is worth in the experience of others. (Q): Will you give some suggestions that will help individuals who seek to develop themselves? (A): Let such individuals seek. THEN that which is for their needs may be given. But as for an individual giving what will help another, this is rather presumptuous. It is almost as bad as an individual seeking to choose a friend to choose your wife, or choose a friend to choose your friend! Or choose a friend as to how that you shall worship your God, choose the friend as to how that you should act in any of your associations or relations with your inner or higher self! You may seek for yourself! Speak for thine self, John. John, speak for thine self! (Q): Would you advise the development of automatic or inspirational writing for those who seem interested in it? (A): If that's what they seek, that's what they seek! (Q): Would you advise the presentation of any material on automatic or inspirational writing at any of the Congress meetings? (A): Rather as is received, then give.

Would you advise the use of any of the material that has been collected here, which I hold in my hand?

Does it comply with that which has been given? Then do it! Does it comply? Is it not from a member? Is it good in his or her experience? Have they found it so? Do they express themselves so? Then present it! Is it a wonderment or not? Then, it should be judged by that standard.

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(Q): Any other information at this time that would be helpful? (A): This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file (Q): Classify writing as to development of psychic faculties. (A): One is as good as the other, depending upon the individual. This has just been outlined. It depends upon the individual development, as to which answers for that within the individual's needs. Soul development should be the better, and hence the inspirational; for if the inspirational does not raise self or keep a balance with that set as the standard from the outside, and the standard is set altogether from the unseen sources, the material cannot keep pace with same - see? Hence we oft find those that give the most beautiful in the tenets or principles from the automatic influences live lives in the external world that are quite reverse. (Q): What is meant by that? Please explain. (A): The ideas and ideals are to present that which has been good in the experience of the members. That which is found good in the experience of a member in his own personal experience, present for what it is worth in the experience of others. (Q): Will you give some suggestions that will help individuals who seek to develop themselves? (A): Let such individuals seek. THEN that which is for their needs may be given. But as for an individual giving what will help another, this is rather presumptuous. It is almost as bad as an individual seeking to choose a friend to choose your wife, or choose a friend to choose your friend! Or choose a friend as to how that you shall worship your God, choose the friend as to how that you should act in any of your associations or relations with your inner or higher self! You may seek for yourself! Speak for thine self, John. John, speak for thine self! (Q): Would you advise the development of automatic or inspirational writing for those who seem interested in it? (A): If that's what they seek, that's what they seek! (Q): Would you advise the presentation of any material on automatic or inspirational writing at any of the Congress meetings? (A): Rather as is received, then give. (Q): Would you advise the use of any of the material that has been collected here, which I hold in my hand? (A): Does it comply with that which has been given? Then do it! Does it comply? Is it not from a member? Is it good in his or her experience? Have they found it so? Do they express themselves so? Then present it! Is it a wonderment or not? Then, it should be judged by that standard.

Would you outline the suggestions that would be of the most help to such individuals?

WE would develop individuals, but that's the individual's development!

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(Q): Any other information at this time that would be helpful? (A): This only that we have outlined here. When this is presented in this way or manner for those that are desirous of having those experiences, then that which may be helpful from this channel may be given for those that seek along the same lines. Then they may draw their own conclusions, see? Keep them separate! We are through for the present. Copy to Work Book Ass'n file (Q): Classify writing as to development of psychic faculties. (A): One is as good as the other, depending upon the individual. This has just been outlined. It depends upon the individual development, as to which answers for that within the individual's needs. Soul development should be the better, and hence the inspirational; for if the inspirational does not raise self or keep a balance with that set as the standard from the outside, and the standard is set altogether from the unseen sources, the material cannot keep pace with same - see? Hence we oft find those that give the most beautiful in the tenets or principles from the automatic influences live lives in the external world that are quite reverse. (Q): What is meant by that? Please explain. (A): The ideas and ideals are to present that which has been good in the experience of the members. That which is found good in the experience of a member in his own personal experience, present for what it is worth in the experience of others. (Q): Will you give some suggestions that will help individuals who seek to develop themselves? (A): Let such individuals seek. THEN that which is for their needs may be given. But as for an individual giving what will help another, this is rather presumptuous. It is almost as bad as an individual seeking to choose a friend to choose your wife, or choose a friend to choose your friend! Or choose a friend as to how that you shall worship your God, choose the friend as to how that you should act in any of your associations or relations with your inner or higher self! You may seek for yourself! Speak for thine self, John. John, speak for thine self! (Q): Would you advise the development of automatic or inspirational writing for those who seem interested in it? (A): If that's what they seek, that's what they seek! (Q): Would you advise the presentation of any material on automatic or inspirational writing at any of the Congress meetings? (A): Rather as is received, then give. (Q): Would you advise the use of any of the material that has been collected here, which I hold in my hand? (A): Does it comply with that which has been given? Then do it! Does it comply? Is it not from a member? Is it good in his or her experience? Have they found it so? Do they express themselves so? Then present it! Is it a wonderment or not? Then, it should be judged by that standard. (Q): Would you outline the suggestions that would be of the most help to such individuals? (A): WE would develop individuals, but that's the individual's development!

You will consider at this time our desire and the need to present to our members a paper on automatic and inspirational writing; i.e., communication or transmission of psychic information by writing, and the material collected which I hold in my hand. [Samples of automatic writing, with their written personal opinions, of [267], [1922], [275]. [See 5752-4 Par. B3, B4.] If the proper attunements may be made now to obtain the best possible material, you will give a treatise on the laws concerned in this type of phenomena, giving specific suggestions for the proper development and use of this character of work and such other data as will make this paper of the greatest value to our members. You will answer the questions.

We have the desire on the part of those that would give information concerning automatic and inspirational writing. In the light of that which has been experienced by those that are putting such desires into manifested form, in forming of treatise or papers concerning same from various forces or channels, as we find, this would be very well. But to combine that as may be given through such a channel as this with that which has been received through those that give not only that received through their sources or their channels, would not only make too voluminous a volume but would be rather unwise. That these may be drawn as comparisons must eventually be the experiences of all, but these - as we find - would be well to be kept in their respective spheres of not only their publications or presentations (or kept separate) but it would be well that at least a period elapse between their presentation. As has been seen and given in many ways and manners, there are as many manners or modes of presenting psychic information almost as there are souls; for each finds in its own approach that which must answer within itself as that WORTHY of being considered by the self. For, does the gong resound to the lick or does it resound to some other? When attuned to another there is a response, but only as the echo. So with any channel through which there is the writing or any inspirational activity that may be applied in any field of that called the arts, whether in the more spiritual or the lower commercial or purely carnal natures. These all find in theirselves, or their other selves, that which will vibrate or re-echo or sound through, or speak through, or write through, or draw through, or ANY of the activities that may approach through any of the forces that may make manifest to man an influence which may direct outside of himself. That there is the greater channel of activity through the senses is evidenced; that is, the activity may be seen, heard, felt, or even may be the reaction upon any of the five senses that are making or do make aware in the experience of an entity or body that of being impelled, influenced or attuned in any of the other senses. As, there may be the surrounding of the body with such odors, such expressions that are beautiful or horrible, that will make for the arising or inducing of those activities that may find their expression either in automatic or inspirational writing, visions, dreams, or any of the channels that are open for man's MIND to become impressed - or impressionablenesses be made upon the activity of the soul, or the MIND of the soul, in its material activity. That from the beginning there have been such influences upon the mind of man is seen not only in that termed Holy Writ but in art, in music, in song, in verse, in prose. It is demonstratable in every walk of life, and has been through all ages. And it is true that in some quarters such influences are called of the psychic forces, yet to some this term itself becomes misapplied (that is, the word psychic) and is not applicable in the experience of many. For, that which is coordinating from a material force to the training of even a mental mind may not be inspirational other than of the physical itself, and is often the case in certain character of writing, painting, of those that become - as it were - the schools where there are hindrances to those that classify or term such as jazz with either sacred or classical music, or any of those in the field of art that may be termed at variance from those inspired by the activities of the individual in its correlations with the activities in any given period when there were the first of those influences that impelled by the zeal of their religious experiences and those that were impelled by the dross or those things that made for the trouble or turmoil in the inspiration of the individual. Compare the artist forces in [sounded like] Rosa' (?) Rosay (?) [GD's note: Rousseau?] showing the beauty in innocence and in that of Satan, yet the face was the same that modeled for both of those. What has acted upon those? The expression of evil influence in material forces themselves! Yet the impelling force that inspired the bringing into activity was one and the same action, you see. As to the activities of what may be termed the channels through which individuals may receive inspirational or automatic writings, the inspirational is the greater of the activities - yet may partake of both the earth-earthly things and the heaven-heavenly things, while the automatic may partake only of that source or force which is impelling, guiding or directing. The inspirational may develop the soul of the individual, while the automatic may rarely reach beyond the force that is guiding or directing. To some this is satisfactory. So is the satisfying of carnal forces satisfying to some. So are those things for the moment alone gratifying to the extreme. But he that would know the better will find that the SOUL of the entity must be in the attitude of seeking, knocking, and in attune with that which he would receive. And thus may the soul - whether from this, that or the other channel of activity through the experiences of the soul in finding expression in any relationships with those things that may make for developments to same - find, in seeking through its relationships with ITS Creator, that which will make for the greater development. Ready for questions.

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You will give at this time a discourse on, `How those seeking to understand psychic information may learn how to determine the reliability of that which comes through various psychic channels.` You will answer the questions that may be asked.

Yes, we have that which has been shown us from old; that in the mouth of two or three witnesses a fact is established. Psychic is of the soul. As to whether psychic information is from those who have attuned themselves to the influences that are even in the material world, or to that force or source which has been sent or given in Creative Forces that are constructive in the experience of others, may only be judged by the application of same in the experience of the individual. For, it has been given, `Search ye the Scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life; and THEY be those that testify of me.` In this we see given that the soul which attunes itself through the manner of approach it, the soul, may make to the Creator of all life, all manifestations of life (which is that we worship as God), finds in the activity of individuals that which brings into the consciousness of others THAT individual's conception of that the individual worships. If this makes for those conditions in the experience that are only the gratifying of the carnal forces, or to the aggrandizement of selfish motives, we then may know that it is not born of truth - but rather that which may be led from the path of light into those things that may seem right unto a man, yet the end thereof is death. Then, how may one determine in one's own experience as to the value or the reliability of information that may be given through any channel that may propose to be, or that may be said to be, of a psychic nature - or with the divine illumination to the self? If it is only psychic and of the earth earthy, then beware! If it bespeaks of that which may bring LIFE in its essence, or the spirit of truth that makes men free from those things that hinder them from knowing more of the truth, of the SPIRIT of truth in the earth, then it may bring that which is constructive into the experience of those that receive same. `Try ye the spirits,` ye have been admonished; and they that testify that He has COME, that bespeak such in their activities, are of TRUTH. Then, they that bring to each soul - not comfort, not as earthly pleasure, but - that which is SPIRITUALLY CONSTRUCTIVE IN THE EXPERIENCE OF A SOUL, ARE WORTHY OF ACCEPTION. Ready for questions. (Pause) It has been questioned as to that given of old, in those instances where that is which ye have eternal life was referred to. What sought Saul? For his own satisfying of his conscience, or for the edification of that which might bring truth? Because the soul of Samuel had entered into that test inter-between did not change one iota the position that Saul bore with constructive influences. While the CHANNEL might be questioned, the source - and that received - was truth! For it came from the source that had already warned Saul. So, in thine own experience, what seekest thou? A short cut to satisfying thine own conscience, or that which may enlighten thee as to what is truth and life? Much depends, my children, upon WHAT ye seek. If ye seek a lie, then the sources must be those from which there may come that which will gratify thine own self. If ye seek to know the truth, then seek only through those channels or from that source that may bring thee to the knowledge, to the understanding, that those promises are thine that have been ever to man: `If ye will be my people, I will be your God.` And, `I will not leave thee alone, I will come to thee - if your SEEK me.` But if ye seek for the gratifying of thine own self alone, or how thou mayest take advantage of thine brother, then know the spirit of truth departs from thee. Through whatever channel ye may seek, be sincere with thine self. If ye would have that which is the manifestation of the Spirit of the Father through any channel, be sincere with thyself; for like begets like. The spirit of truth is nigh unto thee; not who will ascend to bring him down or to bring him over the sea, but seek him in thine own heart; for THY soul is the image of thy Father - and as ye seek in truth, as ye seek in sincerity, as ye seek, so will it be opened unto thee. TODAY - if ye will hear His voice. `Love ye one another,` and thus fulfillthe law as to thy relationships with thy brother and with thy God. We are through.

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You will give at this time a discourse on the Sources of Psychic Information.

Yes, we have had this here before. In giving that which may be helpful or beneficial to those that are gathered here, let there be first given that psychic is from without to the within - or the movement upon that which makes for responses with the individual as to make the individual aware of the fact that there is taking place that which produces a change, if the individual will be moved by same. Hence as life is spirit, spirit is God, the true source of psychic force must come from that which is OF that force that may make aware in the experience the individual, the soul, the fact of His presence abiding ever. In the truer sense, then, as has been given, look not as to who will ascend into heaven to bring him down, nor who shall go over the sea, but, lo, He is in thine own heart, and thy spirit beareth witness with His Spirit that ye are - or not - the children of God. That changes come is ever apparent in the experience of all. That there are then as many sources for the activity of the force that may make manifest the God-influence as there may be ideas or activities in the experience of any soul must be evidenced by the EXPERIENCES of all. What seek ye? WHY seek ye? As ye seek, ye shall find. As ye knock, it shall be opened unto thee; for He is in thine own heart, if ye will but seek to know Him. As to how such manifestations of psychic soul forces may manifest or become conscious to an individual, in the material world ye say it is through that which makes for awareness in thine own PARTICULAR realm of experience, or through thine senses; yea, through many more. For, as all force IS OF Him, as ye seek ye may know. As to how, when and where that experience may be thine depends upon what, where and when ye look within; and He fills in that promise that has ever been among man since his awareness of the influence in the material experience, `If ye will be my people, I will be your God.` Though ye go to the ends of the earth, though ye forsake His ways, if ye will cry unto Him, if ye will ask, He will be at thy side. For, `Though I make my bed in hell, Thou art there. Though I fly unto the utmost parts of heaven, Thou art there.` Thus spoke the psalmist; thus speaks the soul to those that seek to know that which will - through their own souls - make them aware of His presence abiding still. Then, the source is FROM on High, if the seeking is from the soul within. If the seeking is from the carnal forces of the earth influence in thine self, that thou hast hated thy brother and begrudgest that which he hast in his hand - dost thou seek through thine inner self to gain back, dost thou seek for that which may make for the lauding of thine own self, what be the fruits? ye bring sorrow, sickness, yea - even death; for ye have forsaken His ways, ye seek after other gods and they have beckoned His children and they have wandered astray. If ye would know Him let thy life and thy experience be that thy deeds and thy acts are the fruits of the spirit of truth. Against these there is no law. Love, justice, mercy, peace, brotherly love, kindness, these come from the throne of grace, and thine experience of the soul may be from such. But seekest thou that ye may lord thine self above thine brother, above thine neighbor, the answers come only from those sources, those souls that have forsaken His way. Come, my children. Bow thine heads. Call ye on the LORD while He may be found; for in HIS day there shall be peace and glory and harmony and brotherly love. Seek to know Him, and that thou receivest in thine experiences - as ye approach through all those channels that may attune themselves to the throne of grace - will be the knowledge and understanding that, `As ye do it unto the least of these, my little ones, ye do it unto me.` What seekest thou? The Spirit of Truth, or that thou may justify thyself in thine own carnal self? Each may be found. Yea, the way is broad - and many there be that wander therein, but ye that love the light, ye that would find a helping hand, give a helping hand to thy brother; and as ye give, so shall it be measured to thee in that thou seekest in thine inner self. For THERE the Spirit of TRUTH may indeed ONLY - to thee - FIRST be found. For that which makes thee aware is that GOD in His love, in His mercy, has OPENED the way for thee. Flesh and blood may not reveal. Only as ye treat that with thine own acts does the response come. Hence whether ye receive through this, that or the other channel that may open itself for the pouring of the spirit, AS YE SEEK so shall ye find. What are the sources of psychic information? What seekest thou? What art THOU willing to give for thine own soul? Pleasure in the earth for the moment? The satisfying of thine position, that ye may be well-spoken of? As ye seek, as ye sow, as thou hast purposed and desired in thine heart, so shall ye reap, so shall ye receive. They that love His coming will only approach in such a way and manner that though the heavens fall, though the earth may pass away, His word, His promise in them shall NOT pass away. Only in such an attitude, such an understanding, may the Spirit of Truth come in unto thee. Seek ye not lower, if ye would FIND that which will bring rest unto thy soul! We are through.

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Are not transferred memories misappropriated by individuals and considered to be personal experiences?

Personal experiences have their influence upon the inner soul, while disincarnate entities (that may be earth-bound, or that may be heaven-bound) may influence the thought of an entity or a mind. But, who gives the law to have an element to influence, whether from self or from others? That same as from the beginning. The WILL of the soul that it may be one with the first cause. In the material, the mental, and the spiritual experience of many souls, many entities, it has been found that there BE those influences that DO have their effect upon the thought of those that would do this or that. Who gives it? Self! Just as it is when an entity, a body, fills its mind (mentally, materially) with those experiences that bespeak of those things that add to the carnal forces of an experience. Just so does the mind become the builder throughout. And the mental mind, or physical mind, becomes CARNALLY directed! The mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. If one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded. As we may find in a material world: Envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of MAN! Longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light. Choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve. This is not beggaring the question! As individuals become abased, or possessed, are their thoughts guided by those in the borderland? Certainly! If allowed to be! But he that looks within is higher, for the spirit knoweth the Spirit of its Maker - and the children of same are as given. And, `My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit,` saith He that giveth life! What IS Life? A manifestation of the first cause - God!

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(Q): Are not transferred memories misappropriated by individuals and considered to be personal experiences? (A): Personal experiences have their influence upon the inner soul, while disincarnate entities (that may be earth-bound, or that may be heaven-bound) may influence the thought of an entity or a mind. But, who gives the law to have an element to influence, whether from self or from others? That same as from the beginning. The WILL of the soul that it may be one with the first cause. In the material, the mental, and the spiritual experience of many souls, many entities, it has been found that there BE those influences that DO have their effect upon the thought of those that would do this or that. Who gives it? Self! Just as it is when an entity, a body, fills its mind (mentally, materially) with those experiences that bespeak of those things that add to the carnal forces of an experience. Just so does the mind become the builder throughout. And the mental mind, or physical mind, becomes CARNALLY directed! The mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. If one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded. As we may find in a material world: Envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of MAN! Longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light. Choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve. This is not beggaring the question! As individuals become abased, or possessed, are their thoughts guided by those in the borderland? Certainly! If allowed to be! But he that looks within is higher, for the spirit knoweth the Spirit of its Maker - and the children of same are as given. And, `My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit,` saith He that giveth life! What IS Life? A manifestation of the first cause - God!

Explain, in the light of reincarnation, the cycle of development towards maturity in individuals.

As an individual in any experience, in any period, uses that of which it (the soul or entity) is conscious in relation to the laws of the Creative Forces, so does that soul, that entity, develop towards - what? A companionship with the Creative influence! Hence karma, to those disobeying - by making for self that which would be as the towers of Babel, or as the city of Gomorrah, or as the fleshpots of Egypt, or as the caring for those influences in the experience that satisfy or gratify self without thought of the effect upon that which it has in its own relation to the first cause! Hence to many this becomes as the stumblingblock. It is as was given by Him, `I am the way. No man approaches the Father but by me.` But, does a soul crucify the flesh even as He, when it finds within itself that it must work out its own salvation in a material world, by entering and re-entering that there may be made manifest that consciousness in the soul that would make it a companion with the Creator? Rather is the law of forgiveness made of effect in thine experience, through Him that would stand in thy stead; for He is the way, that light ever ready to aid when there is the call upon - and the trust of the soul in - that first cause! Has it not been given that there IS an influence in the mind, the thought of man, from the outside? Then, would those that have lost their way become the guides and both fall in the ditch? or would the soul trust in the Way, and the Light, and seek in that way that there may be shown the light? What caused the first influences in the earth that brought selfishness? The desire to be as gods, in that rebellion became the order of the mental forces in the soul; and sin entered.

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(Q): Are not transferred memories misappropriated by individuals and considered to be personal experiences? (A): Personal experiences have their influence upon the inner soul, while disincarnate entities (that may be earth-bound, or that may be heaven-bound) may influence the thought of an entity or a mind. But, who gives the law to have an element to influence, whether from self or from others? That same as from the beginning. The WILL of the soul that it may be one with the first cause. In the material, the mental, and the spiritual experience of many souls, many entities, it has been found that there BE those influences that DO have their effect upon the thought of those that would do this or that. Who gives it? Self! Just as it is when an entity, a body, fills its mind (mentally, materially) with those experiences that bespeak of those things that add to the carnal forces of an experience. Just so does the mind become the builder throughout. And the mental mind, or physical mind, becomes CARNALLY directed! The mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. If one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded. As we may find in a material world: Envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of MAN! Longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light. Choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve. This is not beggaring the question! As individuals become abased, or possessed, are their thoughts guided by those in the borderland? Certainly! If allowed to be! But he that looks within is higher, for the spirit knoweth the Spirit of its Maker - and the children of same are as given. And, `My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit,` saith He that giveth life! What IS Life? A manifestation of the first cause - God! (Q): Explain, in the light of reincarnation, the cycle of development towards maturity in individuals. (A): As an individual in any experience, in any period, uses that of which it (the soul or entity) is conscious in relation to the laws of the Creative Forces, so does that soul, that entity, develop towards - what? A companionship with the Creative influence! Hence karma, to those disobeying - by making for self that which would be as the towers of Babel, or as the city of Gomorrah, or as the fleshpots of Egypt, or as the caring for those influences in the experience that satisfy or gratify self without thought of the effect upon that which it has in its own relation to the first cause! Hence to many this becomes as the stumblingblock. It is as was given by Him, `I am the way. No man approaches the Father but by me.` But, does a soul crucify the flesh even as He, when it finds within itself that it must work out its own salvation in a material world, by entering and re-entering that there may be made manifest that consciousness in the soul that would make it a companion with the Creator? Rather is the law of forgiveness made of effect in thine experience, through Him that would stand in thy stead; for He is the way, that light ever ready to aid when there is the call upon - and the trust of the soul in - that first cause! Has it not been given that there IS an influence in the mind, the thought of man, from the outside? Then, would those that have lost their way become the guides and both fall in the ditch? or would the soul trust in the Way, and the Light, and seek in that way that there may be shown the light? What caused the first influences in the earth that brought selfishness? The desire to be as gods, in that rebellion became the order of the mental forces in the soul; and sin entered.

Is experience limited to this earth plane?

As each entity, each soul, in the various consciousnesses, passes from one to another, it - the soul - becomes conscious of that about self in that sphere - to which it, the entity, the soul attains in a materially manifested way or manner. Hence the entity develops THROUGH the varied spheres of the earth and its solar system, and the companions of varied experiences in that solar system, or spheres of development or activity; as in some ways accredited correctly to the planetary influences in an experience. The entity develops THROUGH those varied spheres. Hence the sun, the moon, the stars, the position in the heavens or in all of the hosts of the solar systems that the earth occupies - all have their influence in the same manner (this is a very crude illustration, but very demonstrative) that the effect of a large amount of any element would attract a compass. Drawn to! Why? Because of the influence of which the mind element of a soul, an entity, has become conscious! A soul, an entity, is as real as a physical entity, and is as subject to laws as the physical body as subject to the laws in a material world and the elements thereof! Does fire burn the soul or the physical body? Yet, self may cast self into a fire element by doing that the soul knows to be wrong! What would make a wrong and a right? A comparison of that the soul knows its consciousness to be in accord or contrarywise with, in relation to that which gave it existence.

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(Q): Are not transferred memories misappropriated by individuals and considered to be personal experiences? (A): Personal experiences have their influence upon the inner soul, while disincarnate entities (that may be earth-bound, or that may be heaven-bound) may influence the thought of an entity or a mind. But, who gives the law to have an element to influence, whether from self or from others? That same as from the beginning. The WILL of the soul that it may be one with the first cause. In the material, the mental, and the spiritual experience of many souls, many entities, it has been found that there BE those influences that DO have their effect upon the thought of those that would do this or that. Who gives it? Self! Just as it is when an entity, a body, fills its mind (mentally, materially) with those experiences that bespeak of those things that add to the carnal forces of an experience. Just so does the mind become the builder throughout. And the mental mind, or physical mind, becomes CARNALLY directed! The mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. If one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded. As we may find in a material world: Envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of MAN! Longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light. Choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve. This is not beggaring the question! As individuals become abased, or possessed, are their thoughts guided by those in the borderland? Certainly! If allowed to be! But he that looks within is higher, for the spirit knoweth the Spirit of its Maker - and the children of same are as given. And, `My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit,` saith He that giveth life! What IS Life? A manifestation of the first cause - God! (Q): Explain, in the light of reincarnation, the cycle of development towards maturity in individuals. (A): As an individual in any experience, in any period, uses that of which it (the soul or entity) is conscious in relation to the laws of the Creative Forces, so does that soul, that entity, develop towards - what? A companionship with the Creative influence! Hence karma, to those disobeying - by making for self that which would be as the towers of Babel, or as the city of Gomorrah, or as the fleshpots of Egypt, or as the caring for those influences in the experience that satisfy or gratify self without thought of the effect upon that which it has in its own relation to the first cause! Hence to many this becomes as the stumblingblock. It is as was given by Him, `I am the way. No man approaches the Father but by me.` But, does a soul crucify the flesh even as He, when it finds within itself that it must work out its own salvation in a material world, by entering and re-entering that there may be made manifest that consciousness in the soul that would make it a companion with the Creator? Rather is the law of forgiveness made of effect in thine experience, through Him that would stand in thy stead; for He is the way, that light ever ready to aid when there is the call upon - and the trust of the soul in - that first cause! Has it not been given that there IS an influence in the mind, the thought of man, from the outside? Then, would those that have lost their way become the guides and both fall in the ditch? or would the soul trust in the Way, and the Light, and seek in that way that there may be shown the light? What caused the first influences in the earth that brought selfishness? The desire to be as gods, in that rebellion became the order of the mental forces in the soul; and sin entered. (Q): Is experience limited to this earth plane? (A): As each entity, each soul, in the various consciousnesses, passes from one to another, it - the soul - becomes conscious of that about self in that sphere - to which it, the entity, the soul attains in a materially manifested way or manner. Hence the entity develops THROUGH the varied spheres of the earth and its solar system, and the companions of varied experiences in that solar system, or spheres of development or activity; as in some ways accredited correctly to the planetary influences in an experience. The entity develops THROUGH those varied spheres. Hence the sun, the moon, the stars, the position in the heavens or in all of the hosts of the solar systems that the earth occupies - all have their influence in the same manner (this is a very crude illustration, but very demonstrative) that the effect of a large amount of any element would attract a compass. Drawn to! Why? Because of the influence of which the mind element of a soul, an entity, has become conscious! A soul, an entity, is as real as a physical entity, and is as subject to laws as the physical body as subject to the laws in a material world and the elements thereof! Does fire burn the soul or the physical body? Yet, self may cast self into a fire element by doing that the soul knows to be wrong! What would make a wrong and a right? A comparison of that the soul knows its consciousness to be in accord or contrarywise with, in relation to that which gave it existence.

What is meant by inequality of experience? Is it a strong argument for reincarnation?

Considering that which has just been presented, isn't it the same argument?

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(Q): Are not transferred memories misappropriated by individuals and considered to be personal experiences? (A): Personal experiences have their influence upon the inner soul, while disincarnate entities (that may be earth-bound, or that may be heaven-bound) may influence the thought of an entity or a mind. But, who gives the law to have an element to influence, whether from self or from others? That same as from the beginning. The WILL of the soul that it may be one with the first cause. In the material, the mental, and the spiritual experience of many souls, many entities, it has been found that there BE those influences that DO have their effect upon the thought of those that would do this or that. Who gives it? Self! Just as it is when an entity, a body, fills its mind (mentally, materially) with those experiences that bespeak of those things that add to the carnal forces of an experience. Just so does the mind become the builder throughout. And the mental mind, or physical mind, becomes CARNALLY directed! The mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. If one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded. As we may find in a material world: Envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of MAN! Longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light. Choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve. This is not beggaring the question! As individuals become abased, or possessed, are their thoughts guided by those in the borderland? Certainly! If allowed to be! But he that looks within is higher, for the spirit knoweth the Spirit of its Maker - and the children of same are as given. And, `My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit,` saith He that giveth life! What IS Life? A manifestation of the first cause - God! (Q): Explain, in the light of reincarnation, the cycle of development towards maturity in individuals. (A): As an individual in any experience, in any period, uses that of which it (the soul or entity) is conscious in relation to the laws of the Creative Forces, so does that soul, that entity, develop towards - what? A companionship with the Creative influence! Hence karma, to those disobeying - by making for self that which would be as the towers of Babel, or as the city of Gomorrah, or as the fleshpots of Egypt, or as the caring for those influences in the experience that satisfy or gratify self without thought of the effect upon that which it has in its own relation to the first cause! Hence to many this becomes as the stumblingblock. It is as was given by Him, `I am the way. No man approaches the Father but by me.` But, does a soul crucify the flesh even as He, when it finds within itself that it must work out its own salvation in a material world, by entering and re-entering that there may be made manifest that consciousness in the soul that would make it a companion with the Creator? Rather is the law of forgiveness made of effect in thine experience, through Him that would stand in thy stead; for He is the way, that light ever ready to aid when there is the call upon - and the trust of the soul in - that first cause! Has it not been given that there IS an influence in the mind, the thought of man, from the outside? Then, would those that have lost their way become the guides and both fall in the ditch? or would the soul trust in the Way, and the Light, and seek in that way that there may be shown the light? What caused the first influences in the earth that brought selfishness? The desire to be as gods, in that rebellion became the order of the mental forces in the soul; and sin entered. (Q): Is experience limited to this earth plane? (A): As each entity, each soul, in the various consciousnesses, passes from one to another, it - the soul - becomes conscious of that about self in that sphere - to which it, the entity, the soul attains in a materially manifested way or manner. Hence the entity develops THROUGH the varied spheres of the earth and its solar system, and the companions of varied experiences in that solar system, or spheres of development or activity; as in some ways accredited correctly to the planetary influences in an experience. The entity develops THROUGH those varied spheres. Hence the sun, the moon, the stars, the position in the heavens or in all of the hosts of the solar systems that the earth occupies - all have their influence in the same manner (this is a very crude illustration, but very demonstrative) that the effect of a large amount of any element would attract a compass. Drawn to! Why? Because of the influence of which the mind element of a soul, an entity, has become conscious! A soul, an entity, is as real as a physical entity, and is as subject to laws as the physical body as subject to the laws in a material world and the elements thereof! Does fire burn the soul or the physical body? Yet, self may cast self into a fire element by doing that the soul knows to be wrong! What would make a wrong and a right? A comparison of that the soul knows its consciousness to be in accord or contrarywise with, in relation to that which gave it existence. (Q): What is meant by inequality of experience? Is it a strong argument for reincarnation? (A): Considering that which has just been presented, isn't it the same argument?

What is the strongest argument against reincarnation?

That there is the law of cause and effect in MATERIAL things. But the strongest argument against reincarnation is also, turned over, the strongest argument for it; as in ANY principle, when reduced to its essence. For the LAW is set - and it happens! though a soul may will itself NEVER to reincarnate, but must burn and burn and burn - or suffer and suffer and suffer! For, the heaven and hell is built by the soul! The companionship in God is being one with Him; and the gift of God is being conscious of being one with Him, yet apart from Him - or one with, yet apart from, the Whole.

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(Q): Are not transferred memories misappropriated by individuals and considered to be personal experiences? (A): Personal experiences have their influence upon the inner soul, while disincarnate entities (that may be earth-bound, or that may be heaven-bound) may influence the thought of an entity or a mind. But, who gives the law to have an element to influence, whether from self or from others? That same as from the beginning. The WILL of the soul that it may be one with the first cause. In the material, the mental, and the spiritual experience of many souls, many entities, it has been found that there BE those influences that DO have their effect upon the thought of those that would do this or that. Who gives it? Self! Just as it is when an entity, a body, fills its mind (mentally, materially) with those experiences that bespeak of those things that add to the carnal forces of an experience. Just so does the mind become the builder throughout. And the mental mind, or physical mind, becomes CARNALLY directed! The mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. If one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded. As we may find in a material world: Envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of MAN! Longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light. Choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve. This is not beggaring the question! As individuals become abased, or possessed, are their thoughts guided by those in the borderland? Certainly! If allowed to be! But he that looks within is higher, for the spirit knoweth the Spirit of its Maker - and the children of same are as given. And, `My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit,` saith He that giveth life! What IS Life? A manifestation of the first cause - God! (Q): Explain, in the light of reincarnation, the cycle of development towards maturity in individuals. (A): As an individual in any experience, in any period, uses that of which it (the soul or entity) is conscious in relation to the laws of the Creative Forces, so does that soul, that entity, develop towards - what? A companionship with the Creative influence! Hence karma, to those disobeying - by making for self that which would be as the towers of Babel, or as the city of Gomorrah, or as the fleshpots of Egypt, or as the caring for those influences in the experience that satisfy or gratify self without thought of the effect upon that which it has in its own relation to the first cause! Hence to many this becomes as the stumblingblock. It is as was given by Him, `I am the way. No man approaches the Father but by me.` But, does a soul crucify the flesh even as He, when it finds within itself that it must work out its own salvation in a material world, by entering and re-entering that there may be made manifest that consciousness in the soul that would make it a companion with the Creator? Rather is the law of forgiveness made of effect in thine experience, through Him that would stand in thy stead; for He is the way, that light ever ready to aid when there is the call upon - and the trust of the soul in - that first cause! Has it not been given that there IS an influence in the mind, the thought of man, from the outside? Then, would those that have lost their way become the guides and both fall in the ditch? or would the soul trust in the Way, and the Light, and seek in that way that there may be shown the light? What caused the first influences in the earth that brought selfishness? The desire to be as gods, in that rebellion became the order of the mental forces in the soul; and sin entered. (Q): Is experience limited to this earth plane? (A): As each entity, each soul, in the various consciousnesses, passes from one to another, it - the soul - becomes conscious of that about self in that sphere - to which it, the entity, the soul attains in a materially manifested way or manner. Hence the entity develops THROUGH the varied spheres of the earth and its solar system, and the companions of varied experiences in that solar system, or spheres of development or activity; as in some ways accredited correctly to the planetary influences in an experience. The entity develops THROUGH those varied spheres. Hence the sun, the moon, the stars, the position in the heavens or in all of the hosts of the solar systems that the earth occupies - all have their influence in the same manner (this is a very crude illustration, but very demonstrative) that the effect of a large amount of any element would attract a compass. Drawn to! Why? Because of the influence of which the mind element of a soul, an entity, has become conscious! A soul, an entity, is as real as a physical entity, and is as subject to laws as the physical body as subject to the laws in a material world and the elements thereof! Does fire burn the soul or the physical body? Yet, self may cast self into a fire element by doing that the soul knows to be wrong! What would make a wrong and a right? A comparison of that the soul knows its consciousness to be in accord or contrarywise with, in relation to that which gave it existence. (Q): What is meant by inequality of experience? Is it a strong argument for reincarnation? (A): Considering that which has just been presented, isn't it the same argument? (Q): What is the strongest argument against reincarnation? (A): That there is the law of cause and effect in MATERIAL things. But the strongest argument against reincarnation is also, turned over, the strongest argument for it; as in ANY principle, when reduced to its essence. For the LAW is set - and it happens! though a soul may will itself NEVER to reincarnate, but must burn and burn and burn - or suffer and suffer and suffer! For, the heaven and hell is built by the soul! The companionship in God is being one with Him; and the gift of God is being conscious of being one with Him, yet apart from Him - or one with, yet apart from, the Whole.

What is the strongest argument for reincarnation?

Just as given. Just turn it over; or, as we have outlined. We are through for the present.

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(Q): Are not transferred memories misappropriated by individuals and considered to be personal experiences? (A): Personal experiences have their influence upon the inner soul, while disincarnate entities (that may be earth-bound, or that may be heaven-bound) may influence the thought of an entity or a mind. But, who gives the law to have an element to influence, whether from self or from others? That same as from the beginning. The WILL of the soul that it may be one with the first cause. In the material, the mental, and the spiritual experience of many souls, many entities, it has been found that there BE those influences that DO have their effect upon the thought of those that would do this or that. Who gives it? Self! Just as it is when an entity, a body, fills its mind (mentally, materially) with those experiences that bespeak of those things that add to the carnal forces of an experience. Just so does the mind become the builder throughout. And the mental mind, or physical mind, becomes CARNALLY directed! The mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. If one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded. As we may find in a material world: Envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of MAN! Longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light. Choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve. This is not beggaring the question! As individuals become abased, or possessed, are their thoughts guided by those in the borderland? Certainly! If allowed to be! But he that looks within is higher, for the spirit knoweth the Spirit of its Maker - and the children of same are as given. And, `My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit,` saith He that giveth life! What IS Life? A manifestation of the first cause - God! (Q): Explain, in the light of reincarnation, the cycle of development towards maturity in individuals. (A): As an individual in any experience, in any period, uses that of which it (the soul or entity) is conscious in relation to the laws of the Creative Forces, so does that soul, that entity, develop towards - what? A companionship with the Creative influence! Hence karma, to those disobeying - by making for self that which would be as the towers of Babel, or as the city of Gomorrah, or as the fleshpots of Egypt, or as the caring for those influences in the experience that satisfy or gratify self without thought of the effect upon that which it has in its own relation to the first cause! Hence to many this becomes as the stumblingblock. It is as was given by Him, `I am the way. No man approaches the Father but by me.` But, does a soul crucify the flesh even as He, when it finds within itself that it must work out its own salvation in a material world, by entering and re-entering that there may be made manifest that consciousness in the soul that would make it a companion with the Creator? Rather is the law of forgiveness made of effect in thine experience, through Him that would stand in thy stead; for He is the way, that light ever ready to aid when there is the call upon - and the trust of the soul in - that first cause! Has it not been given that there IS an influence in the mind, the thought of man, from the outside? Then, would those that have lost their way become the guides and both fall in the ditch? or would the soul trust in the Way, and the Light, and seek in that way that there may be shown the light? What caused the first influences in the earth that brought selfishness? The desire to be as gods, in that rebellion became the order of the mental forces in the soul; and sin entered. (Q): Is experience limited to this earth plane? (A): As each entity, each soul, in the various consciousnesses, passes from one to another, it - the soul - becomes conscious of that about self in that sphere - to which it, the entity, the soul attains in a materially manifested way or manner. Hence the entity develops THROUGH the varied spheres of the earth and its solar system, and the companions of varied experiences in that solar system, or spheres of development or activity; as in some ways accredited correctly to the planetary influences in an experience. The entity develops THROUGH those varied spheres. Hence the sun, the moon, the stars, the position in the heavens or in all of the hosts of the solar systems that the earth occupies - all have their influence in the same manner (this is a very crude illustration, but very demonstrative) that the effect of a large amount of any element would attract a compass. Drawn to! Why? Because of the influence of which the mind element of a soul, an entity, has become conscious! A soul, an entity, is as real as a physical entity, and is as subject to laws as the physical body as subject to the laws in a material world and the elements thereof! Does fire burn the soul or the physical body? Yet, self may cast self into a fire element by doing that the soul knows to be wrong! What would make a wrong and a right? A comparison of that the soul knows its consciousness to be in accord or contrarywise with, in relation to that which gave it existence. (Q): What is meant by inequality of experience? Is it a strong argument for reincarnation? (A): Considering that which has just been presented, isn't it the same argument? (Q): What is the strongest argument against reincarnation? (A): That there is the law of cause and effect in MATERIAL things. But the strongest argument against reincarnation is also, turned over, the strongest argument for it; as in ANY principle, when reduced to its essence. For the LAW is set - and it happens! though a soul may will itself NEVER to reincarnate, but must burn and burn and burn - or suffer and suffer and suffer! For, the heaven and hell is built by the soul! The companionship in God is being one with Him; and the gift of God is being conscious of being one with Him, yet apart from Him - or one with, yet apart from, the Whole. (Q): What is the strongest argument for reincarnation? (A): Just as given. Just turn it over; or, as we have outlined. We are through for the present.

You will give at this time a comprehensive discourse on reincarnation. If the soul returns to the earth through a succession of appearances, you will explain why this is necessary or desirable and will clarify through explanation the laws governing such returns. You will answer the questions which will be asked on this subject.

Yes. In giving even an approach to the subject sought here, it is well that there be given some things that may be accepted as standards from which conclusions - or where parallels - may be drawn, that there may be gathered in the minds of those who would approach same some understanding, some concrete examples, that may be applied in their own individual experience. Each soul that enters, then, must have had an impetus from some beginning that is of the Creative Energy, or of a first cause. What, then, was - or is - the first cause; for if there be law pertaining to the first cause it must be an unchangeable law, and is - IS - as `I AM that I am!` For this is the basis from which one would reason: The first cause was, that the created would be the companion for the Creator; that it, the creature, would - through its manifestations in the activity of that given unto the creature - show itself to be not only worthy of, but companionable to, the Creator. Hence, every form of life that man sees in a material world is an essence or manifestation of the Creator; not the Creator, but a manifestation of a first cause - and in its own sphere, its own consciousness of its activity in that plane or sphere. Hence, as man in this material world passes through, there are the manifestations of the attributes that the consciousness attributes to, or finds coinciding with, that activity which is manifested; hence becomes then as the very principle of the law that would govern an entrance into a manifestation. Then a soul, the offspring of a Creator, entering into a consciousness that became a manifestation in any plane or sphere of activity, given that free-will for its use of those abilities, qualities, conditions in its experience, demonstrates, manifests, shows forth, that it reflects in its activity towards that first cause. Hence in the various spheres that man sees (that are demonstrated, manifested, in and before self) even in a material world, all forces, all activities, are a manifestation. Then, that which would be the companionable, the at-oneness with, the ability to be one with, becomes necessary for the demonstration or manifestation of those attributes in and through all force, all demonstration, in a sphere. Because an atom, a matter, a form, is changed does not mean that the essence, the source or the spirit of it has changed; only in its form of manifestation, and NOT in its relation with the first cause. That man reaches that consciousness in the material plane of being aware of what he does about or with the consciousness of the knowledge, the intelligence, the first cause, makes or produces that which is known as the entering into the first cause, principles, basis, or the essences, that there may be demonstrated in that manifested that which gains for the soul, for the entity, that which would make the soul an acceptable companion to the Creative Force, Creative Influence. See? As to how, where, when, and what produces the entrance into a material manifestation of an entity, a soul: In the beginning was that which set in motion that which is seen in manifested form with the laws governing same. The inability of destroying matter, the ability of each force, each source of power or contact - as it meets in its various forms, produces that which is a manifestation in a particular sphere. This may be seen in those elements used in the various manifested ways of preparing for man, in many ways, those things that bespeak of the laws that govern man's relationship to the first cause, or God. Then, this is the principle: Like begets like. Those things that are positive and negative forces combine to form in a different source, or different manifestation, the combinations of which each element, each first principle manifested, has gained from its associations - in its activities - that which has been brought to bear by self or that about it, to produce that manifestation. 15. Hence man, the crowning of all manifestations in a material world - a causation world, finds self as the cause and the product of that he (man), with those abilities given, has been able to produce, or demonstrate, or manifest from that he (the soul) has gained, does gain, in the transition, the change, the going toward that (and being of that) from which he came. Periods, times, places: That which is builded, each in its place, each in its time. This is shown to man in the elemental world about him. Man's consciousness of that about him is gained through that he, man, does about the knowledge of that he is, as in relation to that from which he came and towards which he is going. Hence, in man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as to know whither he is going. Ready for questions.

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Advise the group as to how to proceed in organizing themselves.

In the group you each have your own experiences, own incarnations. What is proof to one, as has been given, will NOT be proof to the other. Let them separate then rather into groups - one, two, three that is the closer evidence for them; if there is the determining in themselves by their self-examination first - and do not do the self-examination by making for conversation other than with thy inner self or thy Maker! But determine that it is for a constructive force in the experience, and that it is to make for the study of self in such a manner that there may be in the experience a better mother, a better father, a better neighbor, a better relationship with individuals, and that it is to be used as such and not attempted to be either cast before swine or set up as the pedestal to be worshiped or to be impelled into the minds of others! But self-examination and self-development, by and through the will of Him who giveth life to all! Then, as the groups form into ones, twos or threes, take the data that may be given of the experience of any individual - and if they choose of the group, study [1210]'s first, for this is easy to find so far as the documentary data are concerned. It will not be proof to others, but to [1210] much. Then each study that phase of what [1210] has done about same; not as in passing judgments but as a helper, as a bolster for the getting away from those things that through the flesh have made for the weaknesses in the experiences of the individuals and may be strengthened in that of just doing good, just being kind. And unless it is used in such a manner, WE would not give that it is worth thy trouble. For unless ye are to use the experiences of thy activities, under any circumstance, as a constructive thing, as a constructive experience, of what use is it? This does not imply that all joy, all happiness, even all the gratifying of the emotions of the physical being are to be submerged or are to be pushed back; neither is it that they are to be gratified; but rather as He has shown the Way. We are through for the present. Copies (25) to the New York Research Group Copy to Ass'n file

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(Q): Advise the group as to how to proceed in organizing themselves. (A): In the group you each have your own experiences, own incarnations. What is proof to one, as has been given, will NOT be proof to the other. Let them separate then rather into groups - one, two, three that is the closer evidence for them; if there is the determining in themselves by their self-examination first - and do not do the self-examination by making for conversation other than with thy inner self or thy Maker! But determine that it is for a constructive force in the experience, and that it is to make for the study of self in such a manner that there may be in the experience a better mother, a better father, a better neighbor, a better relationship with individuals, and that it is to be used as such and not attempted to be either cast before swine or set up as the pedestal to be worshiped or to be impelled into the minds of others! But self-examination and self-development, by and through the will of Him who giveth life to all! Then, as the groups form into ones, twos or threes, take the data that may be given of the experience of any individual - and if they choose of the group, study [1210]'s first, for this is easy to find so far as the documentary data are concerned. It will not be proof to others, but to [1210] much. Then each study that phase of what [1210] has done about same; not as in passing judgments but as a helper, as a bolster for the getting away from those things that through the flesh have made for the weaknesses in the experiences of the individuals and may be strengthened in that of just doing good, just being kind. And unless it is used in such a manner, WE would not give that it is worth thy trouble. For unless ye are to use the experiences of thy activities, under any circumstance, as a constructive thing, as a constructive experience, of what use is it? This does not imply that all joy, all happiness, even all the gratifying of the emotions of the physical being are to be submerged or are to be pushed back; neither is it that they are to be gratified; but rather as He has shown the Way. We are through for the present. Copies (25) to the New York Research Group Copy to Ass'n file

What suggestion would you advise for obtaining subsequent Readings for this group's study?

First, let the members of the group each so examine themselves before their Maker and their consciousness, as to the sincerity of purpose and as to that to which purpose such knowledge would be used. Then, seek and ye shall find - if it is to be constructive, well; if it is for self-glorification, well - provided this does not make thee the more humble it is bad. But most of you in your experience if you have looked at yourselves through a mirror of your activities will certainly be humble if you have any conviction!

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(Q): Advise the group as to how to proceed in organizing themselves. (A): In the group you each have your own experiences, own incarnations. What is proof to one, as has been given, will NOT be proof to the other. Let them separate then rather into groups - one, two, three that is the closer evidence for them; if there is the determining in themselves by their self-examination first - and do not do the self-examination by making for conversation other than with thy inner self or thy Maker! But determine that it is for a constructive force in the experience, and that it is to make for the study of self in such a manner that there may be in the experience a better mother, a better father, a better neighbor, a better relationship with individuals, and that it is to be used as such and not attempted to be either cast before swine or set up as the pedestal to be worshiped or to be impelled into the minds of others! But self-examination and self-development, by and through the will of Him who giveth life to all! Then, as the groups form into ones, twos or threes, take the data that may be given of the experience of any individual - and if they choose of the group, study [1210]'s first, for this is easy to find so far as the documentary data are concerned. It will not be proof to others, but to [1210] much. Then each study that phase of what [1210] has done about same; not as in passing judgments but as a helper, as a bolster for the getting away from those things that through the flesh have made for the weaknesses in the experiences of the individuals and may be strengthened in that of just doing good, just being kind. And unless it is used in such a manner, WE would not give that it is worth thy trouble. For unless ye are to use the experiences of thy activities, under any circumstance, as a constructive thing, as a constructive experience, of what use is it? This does not imply that all joy, all happiness, even all the gratifying of the emotions of the physical being are to be submerged or are to be pushed back; neither is it that they are to be gratified; but rather as He has shown the Way. We are through for the present. Copies (25) to the New York Research Group Copy to Ass'n file (Q): What suggestion would you advise for obtaining subsequent Readings for this group's study? (A): First, let the members of the group each so examine themselves before their Maker and their consciousness, as to the sincerity of purpose and as to that to which purpose such knowledge would be used. Then, seek and ye shall find - if it is to be constructive, well; if it is for self-glorification, well - provided this does not make thee the more humble it is bad. But most of you in your experience if you have looked at yourselves through a mirror of your activities will certainly be humble if you have any conviction!

You will have before you the New York Research Group, members of which are present here, and their desires and purposes to study and secure evidence to check the American incarnations of those who have had Life Readings through Edgar Cayce. You will advise this group as to the best methods for undertaking this study with a series of Readings to secure further data on individual records. Answer questions.

Yes, we have the group as gathered here, the members of the New York Research Group, as a group, as individuals; with the desires, the purposes for research as evidence of incarnations of individuals. In giving that as we find that may be helpful in such an experience, first they of the group should each determine within their own mind WHAT is evidence; and then be sure that is NOT evidence to thy neighbor. For we are not all of one mind, and evidence or knowledge is an individual experience - and must be experienced. Know that from the conscious mind only that which is drawn by comparison is evidenced in that consciousness. Incarnation is not of the material, though - as the mind - manifests through the material. Hence while it is part and parcel of the material, its evidence is rather in what is done about it. 8. Again the group should as individuals determine within themselves as to what they will do with same, when there has been proof-positive to them. Do not gain knowledge only to thine undoing. Remember Adam. Do not obtain that which ye cannot make constructive in thine own experience and in the experience of those whom ye contact day by day. Do not attempt to force, impel or to even try to impress thy knowledge upon another. Remember what the serpent did to Eve. In the studies, then, know WHERE ye are going. To gain knowledge merely for thine own satisfaction is a thing, a condition, an experience to be commended, if it does not produce in thine experience a feeling or a manner of expression that you are better than another on account of thy knowledge. This becomes self-evident that it would become then a stumblingblock, unless ye know what ye will do with thy knowledge. As to the manners of interpreting - these may be observed, these may be made constructive by the study of those influences that in the associations and dealings with thy fellow man ye have had weaknesses, inclinations. These are mental, not material things, though they may have brought material activity. Warnings, constructive activity in warnings, then may prove to be of helpful experience in the activity of any individual group. That this should not include documentary data or evidence, to be sure, is well; for documentary evidence to the mind of the masses is nil. Only that which produces or makes for experiences that may make a citizen a better citizen, a father a better father, a mother a better mother, a neighbor a better neighbor, is constructive. And to find that ye only lived, died and were buried under the cherry tree in Grandmother's garden does not make thee one whit better neighbor, citizen, mother or father! But to know that ye spoke unkindly and suffered for it, and in the present may correct it by being righteous - THAT is worth while! What is righteousness? Just being kind, just being noble, just being self-sacrificing; just being willing to be the hands for the blind, the feet for the lame - these are constructive experiences. Ye may gain knowledge of same, for incarnations ARE a FACT! How may ye prove it? In thy daily living! Using the experience of David the king as an example, what was it in his experience that caused him to be called a man after God's own heart? That he did not falter, that he did not do this or that or be guilty of every immoral experience in the category of man's relationship? Rather was it that he was sorry, and not guilty of the same offence twice! Well that ye pattern thy study of thyself after such a life! There may be an excuse - yes, there may be a forgiveness for those that err once; is there for twice, is there for thrice? Yea - though ye forgive, if ye would be forgiven! For that is the law. Then, such a study is WELL - if ye know whither ye go. If ye do NOT know whither ye go, ye had better leave it alone! Ready for questions.

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Any other suggestion to Hugh Lynn Cayce regarding the development of this at this time?

As indicated, there may be charts drawn of five individuals, and a questionnaire may be determined for factors in the individual experience - as to what their inclinations or activities are. Not by telling, but by questioning! Then FROM same, as indicated, there may be given a more correct or direct questionnaire that would be helpful for a large NUMBER of individuals - but NOT a perfect score. For in about twenty percent of the populace at the present time, it is dependent upon what the individuals have done with their urges THROUGH material sojourns. As indicated through this channel, some are in keeping with the astrological charts, others are found to be partially so, others are diametrically opposed to same - because of the activities of the individuals. We are through for the present. Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce Ass'n file

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(Q): Any other suggestion to Hugh Lynn Cayce regarding the development of this at this time? (A): As indicated, there may be charts drawn of five individuals, and a questionnaire may be determined for factors in the individual experience - as to what their inclinations or activities are. Not by telling, but by questioning! Then FROM same, as indicated, there may be given a more correct or direct questionnaire that would be helpful for a large NUMBER of individuals - but NOT a perfect score. For in about twenty percent of the populace at the present time, it is dependent upon what the individuals have done with their urges THROUGH material sojourns. As indicated through this channel, some are in keeping with the astrological charts, others are found to be partially so, others are diametrically opposed to same - because of the activities of the individuals. We are through for the present. Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce Ass'n file

How can the urges from past incarnations be determined by a test or series of tests?

As just indicated - this may only be done by giving the material sojourns of the individual. But if the astrological aspects and influences are given, then there may be determined a questionnaire from same.

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(Q): Any other suggestion to Hugh Lynn Cayce regarding the development of this at this time? (A): As indicated, there may be charts drawn of five individuals, and a questionnaire may be determined for factors in the individual experience - as to what their inclinations or activities are. Not by telling, but by questioning! Then FROM same, as indicated, there may be given a more correct or direct questionnaire that would be helpful for a large NUMBER of individuals - but NOT a perfect score. For in about twenty percent of the populace at the present time, it is dependent upon what the individuals have done with their urges THROUGH material sojourns. As indicated through this channel, some are in keeping with the astrological charts, others are found to be partially so, others are diametrically opposed to same - because of the activities of the individuals. We are through for the present. Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce Ass'n file (Q): How can the urges from past incarnations be determined by a test or series of tests? (A): As just indicated - this may only be done by giving the material sojourns of the individual. But if the astrological aspects and influences are given, then there may be determined a questionnaire from same.

Should the chart be drawn from the geocentric or the heliocentric system?

The geocentric system would be the more in keeping with the Persian force or influence.

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(Q): Any other suggestion to Hugh Lynn Cayce regarding the development of this at this time? (A): As indicated, there may be charts drawn of five individuals, and a questionnaire may be determined for factors in the individual experience - as to what their inclinations or activities are. Not by telling, but by questioning! Then FROM same, as indicated, there may be given a more correct or direct questionnaire that would be helpful for a large NUMBER of individuals - but NOT a perfect score. For in about twenty percent of the populace at the present time, it is dependent upon what the individuals have done with their urges THROUGH material sojourns. As indicated through this channel, some are in keeping with the astrological charts, others are found to be partially so, others are diametrically opposed to same - because of the activities of the individuals. We are through for the present. Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce Ass'n file (Q): How can the urges from past incarnations be determined by a test or series of tests? (A): As just indicated - this may only be done by giving the material sojourns of the individual. But if the astrological aspects and influences are given, then there may be determined a questionnaire from same. (Q): Should the chart be drawn from the geocentric or the heliocentric system? (A): The geocentric system would be the more in keeping with the Persian force or influence.

You will have before you the psychic work of Edgar Cayce relative to information from Life Readings concerning vocational guidance; together with the entity, the enquiring mind, Hugh Lynn Cayce, present here, who seeks to correlate and use such information. From a study of the Life Readings it would seem that an individual's mental and spiritual development, his contentment, is dependent upon releasing and expression of basic mental and emotional urges coming from planetary sojourns and past incarnations. Please give at this time suggestions for the development of a system or a series of intelligence tests which will reveal these basic urges and help an individual in selecting a life's work. It is hoped that such information as may be given here may be developed and used through scout activities and the Princess Anne Schools. You will answer questions.

Yes, we have the information here, that has been indicated in Life Readings as to vocational guidance for individuals. In developing a plan, or a manner of seeking ways in which individuals might give expression of the latent faculties and powers from the material sojourns, as well as the planetary influences - here we will find that there are conflicting forces and influences at times - as we have indicated. The astrological aspects may give a tendency, an inclination; and a systematic, scientific study of same would indicate the vocation. And about eighty percent of the individuals would be in the position of being influenced by such astrological aspects; or would be in the position for their abilities to be indicated from same. But the other twenty percent would not be in that position, due to the influences from activity or the use of their abilities in material experience. Hence in these it would be not only necessary that their material sojourns be given, but as to what had been accomplished through same, and that to be met in the present experience. For, as has been indicated, no influence - astrologically or from material sojourns - surpasses the will or the determination of the individual. Then, there are material factors that rule or govern or direct or influence such forces. These may be tempered by the astrological aspects, but these are not (the astrological aspects) the major influence or force, - the will. Thus, only about eighty percent of the individuals may have their abilities indicated from the astrological aspects in the direction of vocational guidance, as to be a determining factor for such. If some five individuals would be taken, and their charts or astrological aspects indicated, and questions asked as to determining the influence or force from same - from such an aspect there might be given information so that a general chart might be indicated for a questionnaire, or a test, or an activity that would be of material benefit in a great NUMBER of individuals - but never a perfect score may be indicated. For the will, as well as the factors of environment, have their influence. Ready for questions.

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You will please outline clearly and comprehensively the material which should be presented to the general public in explaining just what occurs in the conscious, subconscious and spiritual forces of an entity while in the state known as sleep. Please answer the questions which will be asked regarding this:

Yes. While there has been a great deal written and spoken regarding experiences of individuals in that state called sleep, there has only recently been the attempt to control or form any definite idea of what produces conditions in the unconscious, subconscious, or subliminal or subnormal mind, by attempts to produce a character - or to determine that which produces the character - of dream as had by an individual or entity. Such experiments may determine for some minds questions respecting the claim of some psychiatrist or psycho-analyst and through such experiments refute or determine the value of such in the study of certain character of mental disturbances in individuals; yet little of this may be called true analysis of what happens to the body, either physical, mental, subconscious or spiritual, when it loses itself in such repose. To be sure, there are certain definite conditions that take place respecting the physical, the conscious, and the subconscious, as well as spiritual forces of a body. So, in analyzing such a state for a comprehensive understanding, all things pertaining to these various factors must be considered. First, we would say, sleep is a shadow of, that intermission in earth's experiences of, that state called death; for the physical consciousness becomes unaware of existent conditions, save as are determined by the attributes of the physical that partake of the attributes of the imaginative or the subconscious and unconscious forces of that same body; that is, in a normal sleep (physical standpoint we are reasoning now) the SENSES are on guard, as it were, so that the auditory forces are those that are the more sensitive. The auditory sense being of the attributes or senses that are more universal in aspect, when matter in its evolution has become aware of itself being capable of taking from that about itself to sustain itself in its present state. That is as of the lowest to the highest of animate objects or beings. From the lowest of evolution to the highest, or to man. So, then, we find that there are left what is ordinarily known as four other attributes that are acting independently and coordinatingly in AWARENESS for a physical body to be conscious. These, in the state of sleep or repose, or rest, or exhaustion, or induced by any influence from the outside, have become UNAWARE of that which is taking place about the object so resting. Then, there is the effect that is had upon the body as to what becomes, then, more aware to those attributes of the body that are not aware of that existent about them, or it. The organs that are of that portion known as the inactive, or not necessary for conscious movement, keep right on with their functioning - as the pulsations, the heart beat, the assimilating and excretory system, keep right on functioning; yet there are periods during such a rest when even the heart, the circulation, may be said to be at rest. What, then, IS that that is not in action during such period? That known as the sense of perception as related to the physical brain. Hence it may be truly said, by the analogy of that given, that the auditory sense is sub-divided, and there is the act of hearing by feeling, the act of hearing by the sense of smell, the act of hearing by ALL the senses that are independent of the brain centers themselves, but are rather of the lymph centers - or throughout the entire sympathetic system is such an accord as to be MORE aware, MORE acute, even though the body-physical and brain-physical IS at repose, or UNAWARE. Of what, then, does this sixth sense partake, that has to do so much with the entity's activities by those actions that may be brought about by that passing within the sense RANGE of an entity when in repose, that may be called - in their various considerations or phases - experiences of SOMETHING within that entity, as a dream - that may be either in toto to that which is to happen, is happening, or may be only presented in some form that is emblematical - to the body or those that would interpret such. These, then - or this, then - the sixth sense, as it may be termed for consideration here, partakes of the ACCOMPANYING entity that is ever on guard before the throne of the Creator itself, and is that that may be trained or submerged, or left to its OWN initiative until it makes either war WITH the self in some manner of expression - which must show itself in a material world as in dis-ease, or disease, or temper, or that we call the blues, or the grouches, or any form that may receive either in the waking state or in the sleep state, that has ENABLED the brain in its activity to become so changed or altered as to respond much in the manner as does a string tuned that vibrates to certain sound in the manner in which it is strung or played upon. Then we find, this sense that governs such is that as may be known as the other self of the entity, or individual. Hence we find there must be some definite line that may be taken by that other self, and much that then has been accorded - or recorded - as to that which may produce certain given effects in the minds or bodies (not the minds, to be sure, for its active forces are upon that outside of that in which the mind, as ordinarily known, or the brain centers themselves, functions), but - as may be seen by all such experimentation, these may be produced - the same effect - upon the same individual, but they do not produce the same effect upon a different individual in the same environment or under the same circumstance. Then, this should lead one to know, to understand, that there is a DEFINITE connection between that we have chosen to term the sixth sense, or acting through the auditory forces of the body-physical, and the other self within self. In purely physical, we find in sleep the body is RELAXED - and there is little or no tautness within same, and those activities that function through the organs that are under the supervision of the sub-conscious or unconscious self, through the involuntary activities of an organism that has been set in motion by that impulse it has received from its first germ cell force, and its activity by the union OF those forces that have been impelled or acted upon by that it has fed upon in all its efforts and activities that come, then it may be seen that these may be shown by due consideration - that the same body fed upon MEATS, and for a period - then the same body fed upon only herbs and fruits - would NOT have the same character or activity of the other self in its relationship to that as would be experienced by the other self in its activity through that called the dream self. We are through for the moment - present.

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Give suggestions.

Now, with that as has just been given, that there is an active force within each individual that functions in the manner of a sense when the body-physical is in sleep, repose or rest, we would then outline as to what are the functions of this we have chosen to call a sixth sense. What relation does it bear with the normal physical recognized five senses of a physical-aware body? If these are active, what relation do they bear to this sixth sense? Many words have been used in attempting to describe what the spiritual entity of a body is, and what relations this spirit or soul bears with or to the active forces within a physical normal body. Some have chosen to call this the cosmic body, and the cosmic body as a sense in the universal consciousness, or that portion of same that is a part of, or that body with which the individual, or man, is clothed in his advent into the material plane. These are correct in many respects, yet by their very classification, or by calling them by names to designate their faculties or functionings, have been limited in many respects. But what relation has this sixth sense (as has been termed in this presented) with this SOUL body, this cosmic consciousness? What relation has it with the faculties and functionings of the normal physical mind? Which must be trained? The sixth sense? or must the body be trained in its other functionings to the dictates of the sixth sense? In that as presented, we find this has been termed, that this ability or this functioning - that is so active when physical consciousness is laid aside - or, as has been termed by some poet, when the body rests in the arms of Morpheus - is nearer possibly to that as may be understandable by or to many; for, as given, this activity - as is seen - of a mind, or an attribute of the mind in physical activity - LEAVES a DEFINITE impression. Upon what? The mental activities of the body, or upon the subconscious portion of the body (which, it has been termed that, it never forgets), upon the spiritual essence of the body, or upon the soul itself? These are questions, not statements! In understanding, then, let's present illustrations as a pattern, that there may be comprehension of that which is being presented: The activity, or this sixth sense activity, is the activating power or force of the other self. What other self? That which has been builded by the entity or body, or soul, through its experiences as a whole in the material and cosmic world, see? or is as a faculty of the soul-body itself. Hence, as the illustration given, does the subconscious make aware to this active force when the body is at rest, or this sixth sense, some action on the part of self or another that is in disagreement with that which has been builded by that other self, then THIS is the warring of conditions or emotions within an individual. Hence we may find that an individual may from sorrow SLEEP and wake with a feeling of elation. What has taken place? We possibly may then understand what we are speaking of. There has been, and ever when the physical consciousness is at rest, the other self communes with the SOUL of the body, see? or it goes OUT into that realm of experience in the relationships of all experiences of that entity that may have been throughout the EONS of time, or in correlating WITH that as it, that entity, HAS accepted as its criterion or standard of judgments, or justice, within its sphere of activity. Hence through such an association in sleep there may have come that peace, that understanding, that is accorded by that which has been correlated through that passage of the selves of a body in sleep. Hence we find the more spiritual-minded individuals are the more easily pacified, at peace, harmony, in normal active state as well as in sleep. Why? They have set before themselves (Now we are speaking of one individual!) that that IS a criterion that may be wholly relied upon, for that from which an entity or soul sprang is its CONCEPT, its awareness of, the divine or creative forces within their experience. Hence they that have named the Name of the Son have put their trust in Him. He their standard, their model, their hope, their activity. Hence we see how that the action through such sleep, or such quieting as to enter the silence - What do we mean by entering the silence? Entering the presence of that which IS the criterion of the selves of an entity! On the other hand oft we find one may retire with a feeling of elation, or peace, and awaken with a feeling of depression, of aloofness, of being alone, of being without hope, or of fear entering, and the BODY-PHYSICAL awakes with that depression that manifests itself as of low spirits, as is termed, or of coldness, gooseflesh over the body, in expressions of the forces. What has taken place? A comparison in that `arms of Morpheus`, in that silence, in that relationship of the physical self being unawares of those comparisons between the soul and its experiences of that period with the experiences of itself throughout the ages, and the experience may not have been remembered as a dream - but it lives ON - and on, and must find its expression in the relationships of all it has experienced in whatever sphere of activity it may have found itself. Hence we find oft individual circumstances of where a spiritual-minded individual in the material plane (that is, to outward appearances of individuals so viewing same) suffering oft under pain, sickness, sorrow, and the like. What takes place? The experiences of the soul are meeting that which it has merited, for the clarification for the associations of itself with that whatever has been set as its ideal. If one has set self in array against that of love as manifested by the Creator, in its activity brought into material plane, then there MUST be a continual - continual - WARRING of those elements. By the comparison we may find, then, how it was that, that energy of creation manifested in the Son - by the activities of the Son in the material plane, could say `He sleeps`, while to the outward eye it was death; for He WAS - and IS - and ever will be - Life and Death in one; for as we find ourselves IN His presence, that we have builded in the soul makes for that condemnation or that pleasing of the presence of that in His presence. So, my son, let thine lights be in Him, for these are the MANNERS through which all may come to an understanding of the activities; for, as was given, `I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day.` `I was caught up to the seventh heaven. Whether I was in the body or out of the body I cannot tell.` What was taking place? The subjugation of the physical attributes in accord and attune with its infinite force as set as its ideal brought to that soul, `Well done, thou good and faithful servant, enter into the joys of thy Lord.` `He that would be the greatest among you - ` Not as the Gentiles, not as the heathen, not as the scribes or Pharisees, but `He that would be the greatest will be the SERVANT of all.` What, then, has this to do - you ask - with the subject of sleep? Sleep - that period when the soul takes stock of that it has acted upon during one rest period to another, making or drawing - as it were - the comparisons that make for Life itself in its ESSENCE, as for harmony, peace, joy, love, long-suffering, patience, brotherly love, kindness - these are the fruits of the Spirit. Hate, harsh words, unkind thoughts, oppressions and the like, these are the fruits of the evil forces, or Satan and the soul either abhors that it has passed, or enters into the joy of its Lord. Hence we see the activities of same. This an ESSENCE of that which is intuitive in the active forces. Why should this be so in one portion, or one part of a body, rather than another? How received woman her awareness? Through the sleep of the man! Hence INTUITION is an attribute of that made aware through the suppression of those forces from that from which it sprang, yet endowed WITH all of those abilities and forces of its Maker that made for same its activity in an AWARE world, or - if we choose to term it such - a three dimensional world, a MATERIAL world, where its beings must see a materialization to become aware of its existence in that plane; yet all are aware that the essence of Life itself as the air that is breathed - carries those elements that are not aware consciously of any existence to the body, yet the body subsists, lives upon such. In sleep all things become possible, as one finds self flying through space, lifting, or being chased, or what not, by those very things that make for a comparison of that which has been builded by the very soul of the body itself. What, then, is the sixth sense? Not the soul, not the conscious mind, not the subconscious mind, not intuition alone, not any of those cosmic forces - but the very force or activity of the soul in its experience through WHATEVER has been the experience of that soul itself. See? The same as we would say, is the mind of the body the body? No! Is the sixth sense, then, the soul? No! No more than the mind is the body! for the soul is the BODY of, or the spiritual essence of, an entity manifested in this material plane. We are through for the present.

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Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously?

Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural! Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one!

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(Q): Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously? (A): Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural! Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one!

Give suggestions.

Yes, we have that which has been given here. Now, as we have that condition that exists with the body and this functioning, or this sense, or this ability of sleep and sense, or a sixth sense, just what, how, may this knowledge be used to advantage for an individual's development towards that it would attain? As to how it may be used, then, depends upon what is the ideal of that individual; for, as has been so well pointed out in Holy Writ, if the ideal of the individual is lost, then the abilities for that faculty or that sense of an individual to contact the spiritual forces are gradually lost, or barriers are builded that prevent this from being a sensing of the nearness of an individual to a spiritual development. As to those who are nearer the spiritual realm, their visions, dreams, and the like, are more often - and are more often retained by the individual; for, as is seen as a first law, it is self-preservation. Then self rarely desires to condemn self, save when the selves are warring one with another, as are the elements within a body when eating of that which produces what is termed a nightmare - they are warring with the senses of the body, and partake either of those things that make afraid, or produce visions of the nature as partaking of the elements that are taken within the system, and active within same itself. These may be given as examples of what it is all about. Then, how may this be used to develop a body in its relationship to the material, the mental, and the spiritual forces? Whether the body desires or not, in sleep the consciousness physically is laid aside. As to what will be that it will seek, depends upon what has been builded as that it would associate itself with, physically, mentally, spiritually, and the closer the association in the mental mind in the physical forces, in the physical attributes, are with spiritual elements, then - as has been seen by even those attempting to produce a certain character of vision or dream - these follow much in that; for another law that is universal becomes active! Like begets like! That which is sown in honor is reaped in glory. That which is sown in corruption cannot be reaped in glory; and the likings are associations that are the companions of that which has been builded; for such experiences as dreams, visions and the like, are but the ACTIVITIES in the unseen world of the real self of an entity. Ready for questions.

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(Q): Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously? (A): Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural! Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one! (Q): Give suggestions. (A): Yes, we have that which has been given here. Now, as we have that condition that exists with the body and this functioning, or this sense, or this ability of sleep and sense, or a sixth sense, just what, how, may this knowledge be used to advantage for an individual's development towards that it would attain? As to how it may be used, then, depends upon what is the ideal of that individual; for, as has been so well pointed out in Holy Writ, if the ideal of the individual is lost, then the abilities for that faculty or that sense of an individual to contact the spiritual forces are gradually lost, or barriers are builded that prevent this from being a sensing of the nearness of an individual to a spiritual development. As to those who are nearer the spiritual realm, their visions, dreams, and the like, are more often - and are more often retained by the individual; for, as is seen as a first law, it is self-preservation. Then self rarely desires to condemn self, save when the selves are warring one with another, as are the elements within a body when eating of that which produces what is termed a nightmare - they are warring with the senses of the body, and partake either of those things that make afraid, or produce visions of the nature as partaking of the elements that are taken within the system, and active within same itself. These may be given as examples of what it is all about. Then, how may this be used to develop a body in its relationship to the material, the mental, and the spiritual forces? Whether the body desires or not, in sleep the consciousness physically is laid aside. As to what will be that it will seek, depends upon what has been builded as that it would associate itself with, physically, mentally, spiritually, and the closer the association in the mental mind in the physical forces, in the physical attributes, are with spiritual elements, then - as has been seen by even those attempting to produce a certain character of vision or dream - these follow much in that; for another law that is universal becomes active! Like begets like! That which is sown in honor is reaped in glory. That which is sown in corruption cannot be reaped in glory; and the likings are associations that are the companions of that which has been builded; for such experiences as dreams, visions and the like, are but the ACTIVITIES in the unseen world of the real self of an entity. Ready for questions.

How may one be constantly guided by the accompanying entity on guard at the Throne?

It is there! It's as to whether they desire or not! It doesn't leave but is the active force. As to its ability to SENSE the variations in the experiences that are seen, is as has been given in the illustration - `As to whether in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell.` Hence this sense is that ability of the entity to associate its physical, mental or spiritual self to that realm that it, the entity, or the mind of the soul, seeks for its association during such periods - see? This might confuse some, for - as has been given - the subconscious and the abnormal, or the unconscious conscious, is the mind of the soul; that is, the sense that this is used, as being that subconscious or subliminal self that is on guard ever with the Throne itself; for has it not been said, `He has given his angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time thou dashest thy foot against a stone?` Have you heeded? Then He is near. Have you disregarded? He has withdrawn to thine own self, see? That self that has been builded, that that is as the companion, that must be presented - that IS presented - IS before the Throne itself! CONSCIOUSNESS - [physical] consciousness - see - man seeks this for his OWN diversion. In the sleep [the soul] seeks the REAL diversion, or the REAL activity of self.

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(Q): Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously? (A): Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural! Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one! (Q): Give suggestions. (A): Yes, we have that which has been given here. Now, as we have that condition that exists with the body and this functioning, or this sense, or this ability of sleep and sense, or a sixth sense, just what, how, may this knowledge be used to advantage for an individual's development towards that it would attain? As to how it may be used, then, depends upon what is the ideal of that individual; for, as has been so well pointed out in Holy Writ, if the ideal of the individual is lost, then the abilities for that faculty or that sense of an individual to contact the spiritual forces are gradually lost, or barriers are builded that prevent this from being a sensing of the nearness of an individual to a spiritual development. As to those who are nearer the spiritual realm, their visions, dreams, and the like, are more often - and are more often retained by the individual; for, as is seen as a first law, it is self-preservation. Then self rarely desires to condemn self, save when the selves are warring one with another, as are the elements within a body when eating of that which produces what is termed a nightmare - they are warring with the senses of the body, and partake either of those things that make afraid, or produce visions of the nature as partaking of the elements that are taken within the system, and active within same itself. These may be given as examples of what it is all about. Then, how may this be used to develop a body in its relationship to the material, the mental, and the spiritual forces? Whether the body desires or not, in sleep the consciousness physically is laid aside. As to what will be that it will seek, depends upon what has been builded as that it would associate itself with, physically, mentally, spiritually, and the closer the association in the mental mind in the physical forces, in the physical attributes, are with spiritual elements, then - as has been seen by even those attempting to produce a certain character of vision or dream - these follow much in that; for another law that is universal becomes active! Like begets like! That which is sown in honor is reaped in glory. That which is sown in corruption cannot be reaped in glory; and the likings are associations that are the companions of that which has been builded; for such experiences as dreams, visions and the like, are but the ACTIVITIES in the unseen world of the real self of an entity. Ready for questions. (Q): How may one be constantly guided by the accompanying entity on guard at the Throne? (A): It is there! It's as to whether they desire or not! It doesn't leave but is the active force. As to its ability to SENSE the variations in the experiences that are seen, is as has been given in the illustration - `As to whether in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell.` Hence this sense is that ability of the entity to associate its physical, mental or spiritual self to that realm that it, the entity, or the mind of the soul, seeks for its association during such periods - see? This might confuse some, for - as has been given - the subconscious and the abnormal, or the unconscious conscious, is the mind of the soul; that is, the sense that this is used, as being that subconscious or subliminal self that is on guard ever with the Throne itself; for has it not been said, `He has given his angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time thou dashest thy foot against a stone?` Have you heeded? Then He is near. Have you disregarded? He has withdrawn to thine own self, see? That self that has been builded, that that is as the companion, that must be presented - that IS presented - IS before the Throne itself! CONSCIOUSNESS - [physical] consciousness - see - man seeks this for his OWN diversion. In the sleep [the soul] seeks the REAL diversion, or the REAL activity of self.

How may one train the sixth sense?

This has just been given; that which is constantly associated in the mental visioning in the imaginative forces, that which is constantly associated with the senses of the body, that will it develop toward. What is that which is and may be sought? When under stress MANY an individual - There are NO individuals who haven't at SOME TIME been warned as respecting that that may arise in their daily or physical experience! Have they heeded? Do they heed to that as may be given as advice? No! It must be experienced!

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(Q): Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously? (A): Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural! Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one! (Q): Give suggestions. (A): Yes, we have that which has been given here. Now, as we have that condition that exists with the body and this functioning, or this sense, or this ability of sleep and sense, or a sixth sense, just what, how, may this knowledge be used to advantage for an individual's development towards that it would attain? As to how it may be used, then, depends upon what is the ideal of that individual; for, as has been so well pointed out in Holy Writ, if the ideal of the individual is lost, then the abilities for that faculty or that sense of an individual to contact the spiritual forces are gradually lost, or barriers are builded that prevent this from being a sensing of the nearness of an individual to a spiritual development. As to those who are nearer the spiritual realm, their visions, dreams, and the like, are more often - and are more often retained by the individual; for, as is seen as a first law, it is self-preservation. Then self rarely desires to condemn self, save when the selves are warring one with another, as are the elements within a body when eating of that which produces what is termed a nightmare - they are warring with the senses of the body, and partake either of those things that make afraid, or produce visions of the nature as partaking of the elements that are taken within the system, and active within same itself. These may be given as examples of what it is all about. Then, how may this be used to develop a body in its relationship to the material, the mental, and the spiritual forces? Whether the body desires or not, in sleep the consciousness physically is laid aside. As to what will be that it will seek, depends upon what has been builded as that it would associate itself with, physically, mentally, spiritually, and the closer the association in the mental mind in the physical forces, in the physical attributes, are with spiritual elements, then - as has been seen by even those attempting to produce a certain character of vision or dream - these follow much in that; for another law that is universal becomes active! Like begets like! That which is sown in honor is reaped in glory. That which is sown in corruption cannot be reaped in glory; and the likings are associations that are the companions of that which has been builded; for such experiences as dreams, visions and the like, are but the ACTIVITIES in the unseen world of the real self of an entity. Ready for questions. (Q): How may one be constantly guided by the accompanying entity on guard at the Throne? (A): It is there! It's as to whether they desire or not! It doesn't leave but is the active force. As to its ability to SENSE the variations in the experiences that are seen, is as has been given in the illustration - `As to whether in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell.` Hence this sense is that ability of the entity to associate its physical, mental or spiritual self to that realm that it, the entity, or the mind of the soul, seeks for its association during such periods - see? This might confuse some, for - as has been given - the subconscious and the abnormal, or the unconscious conscious, is the mind of the soul; that is, the sense that this is used, as being that subconscious or subliminal self that is on guard ever with the Throne itself; for has it not been said, `He has given his angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time thou dashest thy foot against a stone?` Have you heeded? Then He is near. Have you disregarded? He has withdrawn to thine own self, see? That self that has been builded, that that is as the companion, that must be presented - that IS presented - IS before the Throne itself! CONSCIOUSNESS - [physical] consciousness - see - man seeks this for his OWN diversion. In the sleep [the soul] seeks the REAL diversion, or the REAL activity of self. (Q): How may one train the sixth sense? (A): This has just been given; that which is constantly associated in the mental visioning in the imaginative forces, that which is constantly associated with the senses of the body, that will it develop toward. What is that which is and may be sought? When under stress MANY an individual - There are NO individuals who haven't at SOME TIME been warned as respecting that that may arise in their daily or physical experience! Have they heeded? Do they heed to that as may be given as advice? No! It must be experienced!

Is it possible for a conscious mind to dream while the astral or spirit body is absent?

There may be dreams - (This is a division here) A conscious mind, while the body is absent, is as one's ability to divide self and do two things at once, as is seen by the activities of the mental mind. The ability to read music and play is using different faculties of the same mind. Different portions of the same consciousness. Then, for one faculty to function while another is functioning in a different direction is not only possible but probable, dependent upon the ability of the individual to concentrate, or to centralize in their various places those functionings that are manifest of the spiritual forces in the material plane. BEAUTIFUL, isn't it?

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(Q): Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously? (A): Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural! Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one! (Q): Give suggestions. (A): Yes, we have that which has been given here. Now, as we have that condition that exists with the body and this functioning, or this sense, or this ability of sleep and sense, or a sixth sense, just what, how, may this knowledge be used to advantage for an individual's development towards that it would attain? As to how it may be used, then, depends upon what is the ideal of that individual; for, as has been so well pointed out in Holy Writ, if the ideal of the individual is lost, then the abilities for that faculty or that sense of an individual to contact the spiritual forces are gradually lost, or barriers are builded that prevent this from being a sensing of the nearness of an individual to a spiritual development. As to those who are nearer the spiritual realm, their visions, dreams, and the like, are more often - and are more often retained by the individual; for, as is seen as a first law, it is self-preservation. Then self rarely desires to condemn self, save when the selves are warring one with another, as are the elements within a body when eating of that which produces what is termed a nightmare - they are warring with the senses of the body, and partake either of those things that make afraid, or produce visions of the nature as partaking of the elements that are taken within the system, and active within same itself. These may be given as examples of what it is all about. Then, how may this be used to develop a body in its relationship to the material, the mental, and the spiritual forces? Whether the body desires or not, in sleep the consciousness physically is laid aside. As to what will be that it will seek, depends upon what has been builded as that it would associate itself with, physically, mentally, spiritually, and the closer the association in the mental mind in the physical forces, in the physical attributes, are with spiritual elements, then - as has been seen by even those attempting to produce a certain character of vision or dream - these follow much in that; for another law that is universal becomes active! Like begets like! That which is sown in honor is reaped in glory. That which is sown in corruption cannot be reaped in glory; and the likings are associations that are the companions of that which has been builded; for such experiences as dreams, visions and the like, are but the ACTIVITIES in the unseen world of the real self of an entity. Ready for questions. (Q): How may one be constantly guided by the accompanying entity on guard at the Throne? (A): It is there! It's as to whether they desire or not! It doesn't leave but is the active force. As to its ability to SENSE the variations in the experiences that are seen, is as has been given in the illustration - `As to whether in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell.` Hence this sense is that ability of the entity to associate its physical, mental or spiritual self to that realm that it, the entity, or the mind of the soul, seeks for its association during such periods - see? This might confuse some, for - as has been given - the subconscious and the abnormal, or the unconscious conscious, is the mind of the soul; that is, the sense that this is used, as being that subconscious or subliminal self that is on guard ever with the Throne itself; for has it not been said, `He has given his angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time thou dashest thy foot against a stone?` Have you heeded? Then He is near. Have you disregarded? He has withdrawn to thine own self, see? That self that has been builded, that that is as the companion, that must be presented - that IS presented - IS before the Throne itself! CONSCIOUSNESS - [physical] consciousness - see - man seeks this for his OWN diversion. In the sleep [the soul] seeks the REAL diversion, or the REAL activity of self. (Q): How may one train the sixth sense? (A): This has just been given; that which is constantly associated in the mental visioning in the imaginative forces, that which is constantly associated with the senses of the body, that will it develop toward. What is that which is and may be sought? When under stress MANY an individual - There are NO individuals who haven't at SOME TIME been warned as respecting that that may arise in their daily or physical experience! Have they heeded? Do they heed to that as may be given as advice? No! It must be experienced! (Q): Is it possible for a conscious mind to dream while the astral or spirit body is absent? (A): There may be dreams - (This is a division here) A conscious mind, while the body is absent, is as one's ability to divide self and do two things at once, as is seen by the activities of the mental mind. The ability to read music and play is using different faculties of the same mind. Different portions of the same consciousness. Then, for one faculty to function while another is functioning in a different direction is not only possible but probable, dependent upon the ability of the individual to concentrate, or to centralize in their various places those functionings that are manifest of the spiritual forces in the material plane. BEAUTIFUL, isn't it?

What connection is there between the physical or conscious mind and the spiritual body during sleep or during an astral experience?

It's as has been given, that SENSING! With what? That separate sense, or the ability of sleep, that makes for acuteness with those forces in the physical being that are manifest in everything animate. As the unfolding of the rose, the quickening in the womb, of the grain as it buds forth, the awakening in all nature of that which has been set by the divine forces, to make the awareness of its presence in MATTER, or material things. We are through for the present.

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(Q): Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously? (A): Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural! Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one! (Q): Give suggestions. (A): Yes, we have that which has been given here. Now, as we have that condition that exists with the body and this functioning, or this sense, or this ability of sleep and sense, or a sixth sense, just what, how, may this knowledge be used to advantage for an individual's development towards that it would attain? As to how it may be used, then, depends upon what is the ideal of that individual; for, as has been so well pointed out in Holy Writ, if the ideal of the individual is lost, then the abilities for that faculty or that sense of an individual to contact the spiritual forces are gradually lost, or barriers are builded that prevent this from being a sensing of the nearness of an individual to a spiritual development. As to those who are nearer the spiritual realm, their visions, dreams, and the like, are more often - and are more often retained by the individual; for, as is seen as a first law, it is self-preservation. Then self rarely desires to condemn self, save when the selves are warring one with another, as are the elements within a body when eating of that which produces what is termed a nightmare - they are warring with the senses of the body, and partake either of those things that make afraid, or produce visions of the nature as partaking of the elements that are taken within the system, and active within same itself. These may be given as examples of what it is all about. Then, how may this be used to develop a body in its relationship to the material, the mental, and the spiritual forces? Whether the body desires or not, in sleep the consciousness physically is laid aside. As to what will be that it will seek, depends upon what has been builded as that it would associate itself with, physically, mentally, spiritually, and the closer the association in the mental mind in the physical forces, in the physical attributes, are with spiritual elements, then - as has been seen by even those attempting to produce a certain character of vision or dream - these follow much in that; for another law that is universal becomes active! Like begets like! That which is sown in honor is reaped in glory. That which is sown in corruption cannot be reaped in glory; and the likings are associations that are the companions of that which has been builded; for such experiences as dreams, visions and the like, are but the ACTIVITIES in the unseen world of the real self of an entity. Ready for questions. (Q): How may one be constantly guided by the accompanying entity on guard at the Throne? (A): It is there! It's as to whether they desire or not! It doesn't leave but is the active force. As to its ability to SENSE the variations in the experiences that are seen, is as has been given in the illustration - `As to whether in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell.` Hence this sense is that ability of the entity to associate its physical, mental or spiritual self to that realm that it, the entity, or the mind of the soul, seeks for its association during such periods - see? This might confuse some, for - as has been given - the subconscious and the abnormal, or the unconscious conscious, is the mind of the soul; that is, the sense that this is used, as being that subconscious or subliminal self that is on guard ever with the Throne itself; for has it not been said, `He has given his angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time thou dashest thy foot against a stone?` Have you heeded? Then He is near. Have you disregarded? He has withdrawn to thine own self, see? That self that has been builded, that that is as the companion, that must be presented - that IS presented - IS before the Throne itself! CONSCIOUSNESS - [physical] consciousness - see - man seeks this for his OWN diversion. In the sleep [the soul] seeks the REAL diversion, or the REAL activity of self. (Q): How may one train the sixth sense? (A): This has just been given; that which is constantly associated in the mental visioning in the imaginative forces, that which is constantly associated with the senses of the body, that will it develop toward. What is that which is and may be sought? When under stress MANY an individual - There are NO individuals who haven't at SOME TIME been warned as respecting that that may arise in their daily or physical experience! Have they heeded? Do they heed to that as may be given as advice? No! It must be experienced! (Q): Is it possible for a conscious mind to dream while the astral or spirit body is absent? (A): There may be dreams - (This is a division here) A conscious mind, while the body is absent, is as one's ability to divide self and do two things at once, as is seen by the activities of the mental mind. The ability to read music and play is using different faculties of the same mind. Different portions of the same consciousness. Then, for one faculty to function while another is functioning in a different direction is not only possible but probable, dependent upon the ability of the individual to concentrate, or to centralize in their various places those functionings that are manifest of the spiritual forces in the material plane. BEAUTIFUL, isn't it? (Q): What connection is there between the physical or conscious mind and the spiritual body during sleep or during an astral experience? (A): It's as has been given, that SENSING! With what? That separate sense, or the ability of sleep, that makes for acuteness with those forces in the physical being that are manifest in everything animate. As the unfolding of the rose, the quickening in the womb, of the grain as it buds forth, the awakening in all nature of that which has been set by the divine forces, to make the awareness of its presence in MATTER, or material things. We are through for the present.

What governs the experiences of the astral body while in the fourth dimensional plane during sleep?

This is, as has been given, that upon which it has fed. That which it has builded; that which it seeks; that which the mental mind, the subconscious mind, the subliminal mind, SEEKS! That governs. Then we come to an understanding of that, `He that would find must seek.` In the physical or material this we understand. That is a pattern of the subliminal or the spiritual self.

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(Q): Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously? (A): Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural! Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one! (Q): Give suggestions. (A): Yes, we have that which has been given here. Now, as we have that condition that exists with the body and this functioning, or this sense, or this ability of sleep and sense, or a sixth sense, just what, how, may this knowledge be used to advantage for an individual's development towards that it would attain? As to how it may be used, then, depends upon what is the ideal of that individual; for, as has been so well pointed out in Holy Writ, if the ideal of the individual is lost, then the abilities for that faculty or that sense of an individual to contact the spiritual forces are gradually lost, or barriers are builded that prevent this from being a sensing of the nearness of an individual to a spiritual development. As to those who are nearer the spiritual realm, their visions, dreams, and the like, are more often - and are more often retained by the individual; for, as is seen as a first law, it is self-preservation. Then self rarely desires to condemn self, save when the selves are warring one with another, as are the elements within a body when eating of that which produces what is termed a nightmare - they are warring with the senses of the body, and partake either of those things that make afraid, or produce visions of the nature as partaking of the elements that are taken within the system, and active within same itself. These may be given as examples of what it is all about. Then, how may this be used to develop a body in its relationship to the material, the mental, and the spiritual forces? Whether the body desires or not, in sleep the consciousness physically is laid aside. As to what will be that it will seek, depends upon what has been builded as that it would associate itself with, physically, mentally, spiritually, and the closer the association in the mental mind in the physical forces, in the physical attributes, are with spiritual elements, then - as has been seen by even those attempting to produce a certain character of vision or dream - these follow much in that; for another law that is universal becomes active! Like begets like! That which is sown in honor is reaped in glory. That which is sown in corruption cannot be reaped in glory; and the likings are associations that are the companions of that which has been builded; for such experiences as dreams, visions and the like, are but the ACTIVITIES in the unseen world of the real self of an entity. Ready for questions. (Q): How may one be constantly guided by the accompanying entity on guard at the Throne? (A): It is there! It's as to whether they desire or not! It doesn't leave but is the active force. As to its ability to SENSE the variations in the experiences that are seen, is as has been given in the illustration - `As to whether in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell.` Hence this sense is that ability of the entity to associate its physical, mental or spiritual self to that realm that it, the entity, or the mind of the soul, seeks for its association during such periods - see? This might confuse some, for - as has been given - the subconscious and the abnormal, or the unconscious conscious, is the mind of the soul; that is, the sense that this is used, as being that subconscious or subliminal self that is on guard ever with the Throne itself; for has it not been said, `He has given his angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time thou dashest thy foot against a stone?` Have you heeded? Then He is near. Have you disregarded? He has withdrawn to thine own self, see? That self that has been builded, that that is as the companion, that must be presented - that IS presented - IS before the Throne itself! CONSCIOUSNESS - [physical] consciousness - see - man seeks this for his OWN diversion. In the sleep [the soul] seeks the REAL diversion, or the REAL activity of self. (Q): How may one train the sixth sense? (A): This has just been given; that which is constantly associated in the mental visioning in the imaginative forces, that which is constantly associated with the senses of the body, that will it develop toward. What is that which is and may be sought? When under stress MANY an individual - There are NO individuals who haven't at SOME TIME been warned as respecting that that may arise in their daily or physical experience! Have they heeded? Do they heed to that as may be given as advice? No! It must be experienced! (Q): Is it possible for a conscious mind to dream while the astral or spirit body is absent? (A): There may be dreams - (This is a division here) A conscious mind, while the body is absent, is as one's ability to divide self and do two things at once, as is seen by the activities of the mental mind. The ability to read music and play is using different faculties of the same mind. Different portions of the same consciousness. Then, for one faculty to function while another is functioning in a different direction is not only possible but probable, dependent upon the ability of the individual to concentrate, or to centralize in their various places those functionings that are manifest of the spiritual forces in the material plane. BEAUTIFUL, isn't it? (Q): What connection is there between the physical or conscious mind and the spiritual body during sleep or during an astral experience? (A): It's as has been given, that SENSING! With what? That separate sense, or the ability of sleep, that makes for acuteness with those forces in the physical being that are manifest in everything animate. As the unfolding of the rose, the quickening in the womb, of the grain as it buds forth, the awakening in all nature of that which has been set by the divine forces, to make the awareness of its presence in MATTER, or material things. We are through for the present. (Q): What governs the experiences of the astral body while in the fourth dimensional plane during sleep? (A): This is, as has been given, that upon which it has fed. That which it has builded; that which it seeks; that which the mental mind, the subconscious mind, the subliminal mind, SEEKS! That governs. Then we come to an understanding of that, `He that would find must seek.` In the physical or material this we understand. That is a pattern of the subliminal or the spiritual self.

What state or trend of development is indicated if an individual does not remember dreams?

The negligence of its associations, both physical, mental and spiritual. Indicates a very negligible personage!

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In all Life Readings given through this channel there are references to sojourns of the soul-entity between incarnations on the earth plane, in various planes of consciousness represented by the other planets in our solar system. You will give at this time a discourse which will explain what takes place in soul development in each of these states of consciousness in their order relative to the evolution of the soul; explaining what laws govern this movement from plane to plane, their influence on life in this earth plane and what if any relationship these planes have to astrology. Questions.

Yes, we have the information and sources from which same may be obtained as to individual experiences, sojourns and their influence. As we find, in attempting to give a coherent explanation of that as may be sought, or as may be made applicable in the experience of individuals who seek to apply such information, it is well that an individual soul-entity, the record of whose astrological and earthly sojourns you have, be used as an example. Then a comparison may be drawn for those who would judge same from the astrological aspects, as well as from the astrological or planetary sojourns of such individuals. What better example may be used, then, than this entity with whom you are dealing [EC]? [Case [294]] Rather than the aspects of the material sojourn, then, we would give them from the astrological: From an astrological aspect, then, the greater influence at the entrance of this entity that ye call Cayce was from Uranus. Here we find the extremes. The sojourn in Uranus was arrived at from what type of experience or activity of the entity? As Bainbridge, the entity in the material sojourn was a wastrel, one who considered only self; having to know the extremes in the own experience as well as others. Hence the entity was drawn to that environ. Or, how did the Master put it? `As the tree falls, so does it lie.` [Eccl. 11:3 by Solomon. Where did Jesus say it?] Then in the Uranian sojourn there are the influences from the astrological aspects of EXTREMES; and counted in thy own days from the very position of that attunement, that tone, that color. For it is not strange that music, color, vibration are all a part of the planets, just as the planets are a part - and a pattern - of the whole universe. Hence to that attunement which it had merited, which it had meted in itself, was the entity drawn for the experience. What form, what shape? The birth of the entity into Uranus was not from the earth into Uranus, but from those stages of consciousness through which each entity or soul passes. It passes into oblivion as it were, save for its consciousness that there is a way, there is a light, there is an understanding, there have been failures and there are needs for help. Then help CONSCIOUSLY is sought! Hence the entity passes along those stages that some have seen as planes, some have seen as steps, some have seen as cycles, and some have experienced as places. How far? How far is tomorrow to any soul? How far is yesterday from thy consciousness? You are IN same (that is, all time as one time), yet become gradually aware of it; passing through, then, as it were, God's record or book of consciousness or of remembrance; for meeting, being measured out as it were to that to which thou hast attained. Who hath sought? Who hath understood? Only they that seek shall find! Then, born in what body? That as befits that plane of consciousness; the EXTREMES, as ye would term same. As to what body - what has thou abused? What hast thou used? What hast thou applied? What has thou neglected in thy extremes, thy extremities? These are consciousnesses, these are bodies. 17. To give them form or shape - you have no word, you have no form in a three-dimensional world or plane of consciousness to give it to one in the seventh - have you? Hence that's the form - we might say - `Have You?` What is the form of this in thy consciousness? It rather indicates that everyone is questioned, `Have you? - Have You?` That might be called the form. It is that which is thy concept of that being asked thyself - not that ye have formed of another. With that sojourn then the entity finds need for, as it were, the giving expression of same again (the answering of `Have You?`) in that sphere of consciousness in which there is a way in and through which one may become aware of the experience, the expression and the manifesting of same in a three-dimensional plane. Hence the entity was born into the earth under what signs? Pisces, ye say. Yet astrologically from the records, these are some two signs off in thy reckoning. Then from what is the influence drawn? Not merely because Pisces is accredited with an influence of such a nature, but because it IS! And the `Have You` becomes then `There Is` or `I Am` in materiality or flesh, or material forces - even as He who has passed this way! The entity as Bainbridge was born in the English land under the SIGN, as ye would term, of Scorpio; or from Venus as the second influence. We find that the activity of the same entity in the earthly experience before that, in a French sojourn, followed the entrance into Venus. What was the life there? How the application? A child of love! A child of love - the most hopeful of all experiences of any that may come into a material existence; and to some in the earth that most dreaded, that most feared! (These side remarks become more overburdening than what you are trying to obtain! but you've opened a big subject, haven't you?) In Venus the body-form is near to that in the three dimensional plane. For it is what may be said to be rather ALL-inclusive! For it is that ye would call love - which, to be sure, may be licentious, selfish; which also may be so large, so inclusive as to take on the less of self and more of the ideal, more of that which is GIVING. What is love? Then what is Venus? It is beauty, love, hope, charity - yet all of these have their extremes. But these extremes are not in the expressive nature or manner as may be found in that tone or attunement of Uranus; for they (in Venus) are more in the order that they blend as one with another. So the entity passed through that experience, and on entering into materiality abused same; as the wastrel who sought those expressions of same in the loveliness for self alone, without giving - giving of self in return for same. Hence we find the influences wielded in the sojourn of the entity from the astrological aspects or emotions of the mental nature are the ruling, yet must be governed by a standard. And when self is the standard, it becomes very distorted in materiality. Before that we find the influence was drawn for a universality of activity from Jupiter; in those experiences of the entity's sojourn or activity as the minister or teacher in Lucius. For the entity gave for the gospel's sake, a love, an activity and a hope through things that had become as of a universal nature. Yet coming into the Roman influence from the earthly sojourn in Troy, we find that the entity through the Jupiterian environment was trained - as we understand - by being tempered to give self from the very universality, the very bigness of those activities in Jupiter. For the sojourn in Troy was as the soldier, the carrying out of the order given, with a claim for activities pertaining to world affairs - a spreading. What form, ye ask, did he take? That which may be described as in the circle with the dot, in which there is the turning within ever if ye will know the answer to thy problems; no matter in what stage of thy consciousness ye may be. For `Lo, I meet thee WITHIN thy holy temple,` is the promise. And the pattern is ever, `have you?` In other words, have you love? or the circle within, and not for self? but that He that giveth power, that meeteth within, may be magnified? Have you rather abased self that the glory may be magnified that thou didst have with Him before the worlds were, before a division of consciousness came? These become as it were a part of thy experiences, then, through the astrological sojourns or environs from which all take their turn, their attunement. And we find that the experience of the entity before that, as Uhjltd, was from even without the sphere of thine own orb; for the entity came from those centers about which thine own solar system moves - in Arcturus. For there had come from those activities, in Uhjltd, the knowledge of the oneness, and of those forces and powers that would set as it were the universality of its relationships, through its unity of purpose in all spheres of human experience; by the entity becoming how? Not aliens, then - not bastards before the Lord - but sons - co-heirs with Him in the Father's kingdom. Yet the quick return to the earthly sojourn in Troy, and the abuse of these, the turning of these for self - in the activities attempted - brought about the changes that were wrought. But the entrance into the Ra-Ta experience, when there was the journeying from materiality - or the being translated in materiality as Ra-Ta - was from the infinity forces, or from the Sun; with those influences that draw upon the planet itself, the earth and all those about same. Is it any wonder that in the ignorance of the earth the activities of that entity were turned into that influence called the sun worshippers? This was because of the abilities of its influences in the experiences of each individual, and the effect upon those things of the earth in nature itself; because of the atmosphere, the forces as they take form from the vapors created even by same; and the very natures or influences upon vegetation! The very natures or influences from the elemental forces themselves were drawn in those activities of the elements within the earth, that could give off their vibrations because of the influences that attracted or draw away from one another. This was produced by that which had come into the experiences in materiality, or into being, as the very nature of water with the sun's rays; or the ruler of thy own little solar system, thy own little nature in the form ye may see in the earth! Hence we find how, as ye draw your patterns from these, that they become a part of the whole. For ye are RELATIVELY related to all that ye have contacted in materiality, mentality, spirituality! All of these are a portion of thyself in the material plane. In taking form they become a mental body with its longings for its home, with right and righteousness. Then that ye know as thy mental self is the form taken, with all of its variations as combined from the things it has been within, without, and in relationship to the activities in materiality as well as in the spheres or various consciousness of `Have you - love, the circle, the Son?` These become then as the signs of the entity, and ye may draw these from the pattern which has been set. Just as the desert experience, the lines drawn in the temple as represented by the pyramid, the sun, the water, the well, the sea and the ships upon same - because of the very nature of expression - become the PATTERN of the entity in this material plane. Draw ye then from that which has been shown ye by the paralleling of thy own experiences in the earth. For they each take their form, their symbol, their sound, their color, their stone. For they all bear a relationship one to another, according to what they have done about, `The Lord is in his holy temple, let all the earth keep silent!` He that would know his own way, his own relationships to Creative Forces or God, may seek through the promises in Him; as set in Jesus of Nazareth - He passeth by! Will ye have Him enter and sup with thee? OPEN then thy heart, thy consciousness, for HE would tarry with thee! We are through.

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Can you describe, by similes or comparison, what it is in other systems which attracts the souls?

Take what has just been given; that there are conditions that may meet every idiosyncrasy of the INDIVIDUAL soul! Then consider the millions, and how much is required of thee! There are centers through which those of one solar system may pass to another, as we have indicated in information for individuals. There are also those experiences in which individual souls may seek a change. As He gave, as the tree falls so does it lie.* This is not only material, it is also mental and spiritual. Is God's hand short, that there would not be all that each soul would require? For it is not by the will of God that any soul perishes, but with every temptation, with every trial there is prepared the way of escape. GOD, the Father, then, is the Creator - the beginning and the end. In HIM is the understanding, BY and through those influences that have taken form - in universes - to meet the needs of each soul - that we might find our way to Him. * [Eccl. 11:3 by Solomon. Where did Jesus say it? In Galatians 6:7 by Paul? `As a man soweth...`]

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(Q): Can you describe, by similes or comparison, what it is in other systems which attracts the souls? (A): Take what has just been given; that there are conditions that may meet every idiosyncrasy of the INDIVIDUAL soul! Then consider the millions, and how much is required of thee! There are centers through which those of one solar system may pass to another, as we have indicated in information for individuals. There are also those experiences in which individual souls may seek a change. As He gave, as the tree falls so does it lie.* This is not only material, it is also mental and spiritual. Is God's hand short, that there would not be all that each soul would require? For it is not by the will of God that any soul perishes, but with every temptation, with every trial there is prepared the way of escape. GOD, the Father, then, is the Creator - the beginning and the end. In HIM is the understanding, BY and through those influences that have taken form - in universes - to meet the needs of each soul - that we might find our way to Him. * [Eccl. 11:3 by Solomon. Where did Jesus say it? In Galatians 6:7 by Paul? `As a man soweth...`]

Do these other systems have a planet, like earth, which is a focal point for the meeting and material expression of its forces and principles?

Relatively so, in that dimension of consciousness or awareness necessary to meet that arousing of the soul to its need - its awareness of the Maker, the Word, the Spirit; and the influences therein answer to that within the individual soul. For, an individual soul here finds itself a body, a mind, a soul. Ye may sin in mind, ye may sin in body. Do ye answer only in spirit? As He has given, every SOUL shall give account of the deeds done in the body. What body? That body of mind, that body of physical manifestation, that body of spirit; each in its own sphere, its own realm. Earth, in this solar system, merely represents three dimensions. Then, how many dimensions are in this solar system? Eight! What position does the earth occupy? Third! What position do others occupy? That relative relationship one to another. Who is the author and the finisher of same? The Word! Who is the Word? He that made himself manifest in the flesh! Who is the beginning and the end? Even Jesus, the Christ! We are through for the present.

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(Q): Can you describe, by similes or comparison, what it is in other systems which attracts the souls? (A): Take what has just been given; that there are conditions that may meet every idiosyncrasy of the INDIVIDUAL soul! Then consider the millions, and how much is required of thee! There are centers through which those of one solar system may pass to another, as we have indicated in information for individuals. There are also those experiences in which individual souls may seek a change. As He gave, as the tree falls so does it lie.* This is not only material, it is also mental and spiritual. Is God's hand short, that there would not be all that each soul would require? For it is not by the will of God that any soul perishes, but with every temptation, with every trial there is prepared the way of escape. GOD, the Father, then, is the Creator - the beginning and the end. In HIM is the understanding, BY and through those influences that have taken form - in universes - to meet the needs of each soul - that we might find our way to Him. * [Eccl. 11:3 by Solomon. Where did Jesus say it? In Galatians 6:7 by Paul? `As a man soweth...`] (Q): Do these other systems have a planet, like earth, which is a focal point for the meeting and material expression of its forces and principles? (A): Relatively so, in that dimension of consciousness or awareness necessary to meet that arousing of the soul to its need - its awareness of the Maker, the Word, the Spirit; and the influences therein answer to that within the individual soul. For, an individual soul here finds itself a body, a mind, a soul. Ye may sin in mind, ye may sin in body. Do ye answer only in spirit? As He has given, every SOUL shall give account of the deeds done in the body. What body? That body of mind, that body of physical manifestation, that body of spirit; each in its own sphere, its own realm. Earth, in this solar system, merely represents three dimensions. Then, how many dimensions are in this solar system? Eight! What position does the earth occupy? Third! What position do others occupy? That relative relationship one to another. Who is the author and the finisher of same? The Word! Who is the Word? He that made himself manifest in the flesh! Who is the beginning and the end? Even Jesus, the Christ! We are through for the present.

In systems where conditions for expression parallel those in the solar system; is entanglement a parallel experience to entanglement in this system, so that a soul is apt only to become immersed in one of these systems, and after working out of it, be immune to the attractions of others?

No. No two leaves of a tree are the same. No two blades of grass are the same. No two systems have the same awareness, neither are they parallel. There ARE those awarenesses that are relative relationships, yes. But hast thou conceived - or canst thou conceive - the requirements of the influence to meet all the idiosyncrasies of a SINGLE soul? How many systems would it require? In thyself we find oft one friend for this, another for that, another for this relationship, another for the prop, another to arouse. Yet all are the work of His hand, are thine to possess, thine to use - as one with Him.

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(Q): Can you describe, by similes or comparison, what it is in other systems which attracts the souls? (A): Take what has just been given; that there are conditions that may meet every idiosyncrasy of the INDIVIDUAL soul! Then consider the millions, and how much is required of thee! There are centers through which those of one solar system may pass to another, as we have indicated in information for individuals. There are also those experiences in which individual souls may seek a change. As He gave, as the tree falls so does it lie.* This is not only material, it is also mental and spiritual. Is God's hand short, that there would not be all that each soul would require? For it is not by the will of God that any soul perishes, but with every temptation, with every trial there is prepared the way of escape. GOD, the Father, then, is the Creator - the beginning and the end. In HIM is the understanding, BY and through those influences that have taken form - in universes - to meet the needs of each soul - that we might find our way to Him. * [Eccl. 11:3 by Solomon. Where did Jesus say it? In Galatians 6:7 by Paul? `As a man soweth...`] (Q): Do these other systems have a planet, like earth, which is a focal point for the meeting and material expression of its forces and principles? (A): Relatively so, in that dimension of consciousness or awareness necessary to meet that arousing of the soul to its need - its awareness of the Maker, the Word, the Spirit; and the influences therein answer to that within the individual soul. For, an individual soul here finds itself a body, a mind, a soul. Ye may sin in mind, ye may sin in body. Do ye answer only in spirit? As He has given, every SOUL shall give account of the deeds done in the body. What body? That body of mind, that body of physical manifestation, that body of spirit; each in its own sphere, its own realm. Earth, in this solar system, merely represents three dimensions. Then, how many dimensions are in this solar system? Eight! What position does the earth occupy? Third! What position do others occupy? That relative relationship one to another. Who is the author and the finisher of same? The Word! Who is the Word? He that made himself manifest in the flesh! Who is the beginning and the end? Even Jesus, the Christ! We are through for the present. (Q): In systems where conditions for expression parallel those in the solar system; is entanglement a parallel experience to entanglement in this system, so that a soul is apt only to become immersed in one of these systems, and after working out of it, be immune to the attractions of others? (A): No. No two leaves of a tree are the same. No two blades of grass are the same. No two systems have the same awareness, neither are they parallel. There ARE those awarenesses that are relative relationships, yes. But hast thou conceived - or canst thou conceive - the requirements of the influence to meet all the idiosyncrasies of a SINGLE soul? How many systems would it require? In thyself we find oft one friend for this, another for that, another for this relationship, another for the prop, another to arouse. Yet all are the work of His hand, are thine to possess, thine to use - as one with Him.

It has been given through this source that souls become entangled in cosmic systems similar to the solar system, where conditions are like those presented in this system. For the enlightenment of those gathered here, it is requested that you now take up the implications of this statement, in so far as it is possible to do so in terms of language and human experience. You will discuss the questions which have been prepared, as I ask them, using, wherever possible, parallels with life as it is on this earth.

Yes, we have the implications that have been indicated through these channels; as to how souls may be entangled in systems or influences similar in nature to human experience in matter. In answering many of those questions presented here, or that may be in the minds of those gathered here, it is well that the premise be given from which such answers would be made. These you may find in the indication that in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God - the same. Without Him there was not anything made that was made. Thus in the answers we may find that, though there may be worlds, many universes, even much as to solar systems, greater than our own that we enjoy in the present, this earthly experience on this earth is a mere speck when considered even with our own solar system. Yet the soul of man, thy soul, encompasses ALL in this solar system or in others. For, we are joint heirs with that universal force we call God - if we seek to do His biddings. If our purposes are not in keeping with that Creative Force, or God, then we may be a hindrance. And, as it has been indicated of old, it has not appeared nor even entered into the heart of man to know the glories the Father has prepared for those that love Him. Neither may men conceive of destruction, even though he is in the earth a three-dimensional awareness. Neither may he conceive of horror, nor of suffering, nor even of what it means to be in outer darkness where the worm dieth not. Then in considering those conditions, those experiences as may be a part of the soul's awareness - in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was with God. THAT is the premise. Ready for questions.

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(Q): Can you describe, by similes or comparison, what it is in other systems which attracts the souls? (A): Take what has just been given; that there are conditions that may meet every idiosyncrasy of the INDIVIDUAL soul! Then consider the millions, and how much is required of thee! There are centers through which those of one solar system may pass to another, as we have indicated in information for individuals. There are also those experiences in which individual souls may seek a change. As He gave, as the tree falls so does it lie.* This is not only material, it is also mental and spiritual. Is God's hand short, that there would not be all that each soul would require? For it is not by the will of God that any soul perishes, but with every temptation, with every trial there is prepared the way of escape. GOD, the Father, then, is the Creator - the beginning and the end. In HIM is the understanding, BY and through those influences that have taken form - in universes - to meet the needs of each soul - that we might find our way to Him. * [Eccl. 11:3 by Solomon. Where did Jesus say it? In Galatians 6:7 by Paul? `As a man soweth...`] (Q): Do these other systems have a planet, like earth, which is a focal point for the meeting and material expression of its forces and principles? (A): Relatively so, in that dimension of consciousness or awareness necessary to meet that arousing of the soul to its need - its awareness of the Maker, the Word, the Spirit; and the influences therein answer to that within the individual soul. For, an individual soul here finds itself a body, a mind, a soul. Ye may sin in mind, ye may sin in body. Do ye answer only in spirit? As He has given, every SOUL shall give account of the deeds done in the body. What body? That body of mind, that body of physical manifestation, that body of spirit; each in its own sphere, its own realm. Earth, in this solar system, merely represents three dimensions. Then, how many dimensions are in this solar system? Eight! What position does the earth occupy? Third! What position do others occupy? That relative relationship one to another. Who is the author and the finisher of same? The Word! Who is the Word? He that made himself manifest in the flesh! Who is the beginning and the end? Even Jesus, the Christ! We are through for the present. (Q): In systems where conditions for expression parallel those in the solar system; is entanglement a parallel experience to entanglement in this system, so that a soul is apt only to become immersed in one of these systems, and after working out of it, be immune to the attractions of others? (A): No. No two leaves of a tree are the same. No two blades of grass are the same. No two systems have the same awareness, neither are they parallel. There ARE those awarenesses that are relative relationships, yes. But hast thou conceived - or canst thou conceive - the requirements of the influence to meet all the idiosyncrasies of a SINGLE soul? How many systems would it require? In thyself we find oft one friend for this, another for that, another for this relationship, another for the prop, another to arouse. Yet all are the work of His hand, are thine to possess, thine to use - as one with Him. (Q): It has been given through this source that souls become entangled in cosmic systems similar to the solar system, where conditions are like those presented in this system. For the enlightenment of those gathered here, it is requested that you now take up the implications of this statement, in so far as it is possible to do so in terms of language and human experience. You will discuss the questions which have been prepared, as I ask them, using, wherever possible, parallels with life as it is on this earth. (A): Yes, we have the implications that have been indicated through these channels; as to how souls may be entangled in systems or influences similar in nature to human experience in matter. In answering many of those questions presented here, or that may be in the minds of those gathered here, it is well that the premise be given from which such answers would be made. These you may find in the indication that in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God - the same. Without Him there was not anything made that was made. Thus in the answers we may find that, though there may be worlds, many universes, even much as to solar systems, greater than our own that we enjoy in the present, this earthly experience on this earth is a mere speck when considered even with our own solar system. Yet the soul of man, thy soul, encompasses ALL in this solar system or in others. For, we are joint heirs with that universal force we call God - if we seek to do His biddings. If our purposes are not in keeping with that Creative Force, or God, then we may be a hindrance. And, as it has been indicated of old, it has not appeared nor even entered into the heart of man to know the glories the Father has prepared for those that love Him. Neither may men conceive of destruction, even though he is in the earth a three-dimensional awareness. Neither may he conceive of horror, nor of suffering, nor even of what it means to be in outer darkness where the worm dieth not. Then in considering those conditions, those experiences as may be a part of the soul's awareness - in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was with God. THAT is the premise. Ready for questions.

May we assume that the term `entangle` means a soul's participation and immersion in a form or system of creative expression which was not necessarily intended for such participation and immersion, as the earth?

To be sure, there are those consciousnesses or awarenesses that have not participated in nor been a part of earth's PHYSICAL consciousness; as the angels, the archangels, the masters to whom there has been attainment, and to those influences that have prepared the way. Remember, as given, the earth is that speck, that part of creation where souls projected themselves into matter, and thus brought that conscious awareness of themselves entertaining the ability of creating without those forces of the spirit of truth. Hence that which has been indicated - that serpent, that satan, that power manifested by entities that, created as the cooperative influence, through will separated themselves. As this came about, it was necessary for their own awareness in the SPHERES of activity. Thus realms of systems came into being; as vast as the power of thought in attempting to understand infinity, or to comprehend that there is no space or time. Yet time AND space, in patience, you may comprehend.

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Give suggestions.

There are many in the spirit plane that have not chosen to come back to the earth. [Mumbled so we could not hear, then:] Lincoln - There are many about us now.

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You will have before you all the information that has been given in psychic readings by Edgar Cayce concerning communication with those that have passed into the spirit plane. You will correlate all of this information in a systematic way and manner, that this may be understood by the conscious mind of any individual studying the subject, and you will answer all questions that I will ask you concerning this subject that should be answered.

Yes, we have the information as has been given at various times, and under various circumstances and conditions, concerning spirit communication, and the correlation of same will cover a vast deal of the information as given. This will be given rather in a manner to be understood by the sensuous consciousness of an individual seeking to know the truth, rather than following in the succession of information given - yet covering the various phases of same, that the comprehensibleness of same may be made compatible with the mind of one seeking such knowledge. Then first, in giving such condition, the first laid down should be as this: That the spirit - in its leaving the physical body - is amenable to spirit laws, but first and foremost, even before (yes, there was another just entered) giving this, there is in the conscious physical world every - EVERY - pattern of the spiritual world, and these may be illustrated when lessons drawn aright from same. In that then that is seen - that the spirit entering the spiritual plane - first the body of such is the soul of the individual, with the - We are through for the present.

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Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.`

Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see?

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see?

How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension?

Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present.

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present.

Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane?

Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness!

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present. (Q): Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane? (A): Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness!

Is it possible for those that have passed into the spirit plane to at all times communicate with those in the earth plane?

Yes and no - for these conditions are as has been described - that the NECESSARY way or mode must be prepared; for as this: Ever has that vibration as is attracted and thrown off been active in the world as is exercised through that called the telephone, but without proper connection, without shorts, without any disturbance, may proper communication be made! These have not always been active to the PHYSICAL body. These are not always in proper accord to be used by the physical body. Just the same in that pattern. Those in the astral plane are not always ready. Those in the physical plane are not always ready. What conditions arise (is asked) that we in the physical plane are not ready? The MIND! What conditions arise that we in the astral plane are not ready? There are those same elements as has been outlined, of that of the development going on, and the willingness of that INDIVIDUAL to communicate, as given, see? but when set aright, these may - until passed into that Oneness, or returned again, or gone on beyond such communications.

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present. (Q): Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane? (A): Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness! (Q): Is it possible for those that have passed into the spirit plane to at all times communicate with those in the earth plane? (A): Yes and no - for these conditions are as has been described - that the NECESSARY way or mode must be prepared; for as this: Ever has that vibration as is attracted and thrown off been active in the world as is exercised through that called the telephone, but without proper connection, without shorts, without any disturbance, may proper communication be made! These have not always been active to the PHYSICAL body. These are not always in proper accord to be used by the physical body. Just the same in that pattern. Those in the astral plane are not always ready. Those in the physical plane are not always ready. What conditions arise (is asked) that we in the physical plane are not ready? The MIND! What conditions arise that we in the astral plane are not ready? There are those same elements as has been outlined, of that of the development going on, and the willingness of that INDIVIDUAL to communicate, as given, see? but when set aright, these may - until passed into that Oneness, or returned again, or gone on beyond such communications.

Is the effort for spirit communication as much effort on the part of the spirit entity as the effort that should be made on the part of the material or physical entity?

The force should never be applied, and may never be applied and be real, in either case. The willingness and the desire from both is necessary for the perfect communication, see? Illustrate this same condition by that physical condition as is seen in attunement of either that called radio, or of that called phone, or that of any of that vibratory force as is set by the electron in the material plane. Necessary for the perfect union that each be in accord. In other words, we find many in the astral plane SEEKING to give force active in the material. Many in the material SEEKING to delve into the astral. They must be made one, would they bring the better.

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present. (Q): Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane? (A): Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness! (Q): Is it possible for those that have passed into the spirit plane to at all times communicate with those in the earth plane? (A): Yes and no - for these conditions are as has been described - that the NECESSARY way or mode must be prepared; for as this: Ever has that vibration as is attracted and thrown off been active in the world as is exercised through that called the telephone, but without proper connection, without shorts, without any disturbance, may proper communication be made! These have not always been active to the PHYSICAL body. These are not always in proper accord to be used by the physical body. Just the same in that pattern. Those in the astral plane are not always ready. Those in the physical plane are not always ready. What conditions arise (is asked) that we in the physical plane are not ready? The MIND! What conditions arise that we in the astral plane are not ready? There are those same elements as has been outlined, of that of the development going on, and the willingness of that INDIVIDUAL to communicate, as given, see? but when set aright, these may - until passed into that Oneness, or returned again, or gone on beyond such communications. (Q): Is the effort for spirit communication as much effort on the part of the spirit entity as the effort that should be made on the part of the material or physical entity? (A): The force should never be applied, and may never be applied and be real, in either case. The willingness and the desire from both is necessary for the perfect communication, see? Illustrate this same condition by that physical condition as is seen in attunement of either that called radio, or of that called phone, or that of any of that vibratory force as is set by the electron in the material plane. Necessary for the perfect union that each be in accord. In other words, we find many in the astral plane SEEKING to give force active in the material. Many in the material SEEKING to delve into the astral. They must be made one, would they bring the better.

What are the powers of the spirit entity?

Raised to the highest power as is developed in that plane, and are - as outlined - as VARYING as individual's power or ability to manifest, or to exercise that manifestation, in the material. We have not changed, see? for as we would say: What is the power of an individual in the PHYSICAL plane? Naught as it enters. Naught until it reaches that ability to GIVE of self in service. Yet, as we find, there is in all the world nothing that offers so much possibility as when the body of the human is born into the material plane. In the minds of every other, nothing offers more beautiful condition, raised to its same power, as the birth into that of the astral plane. Hence, how oft, how oft, is such seen in this entering! How expectant becomes both? Does it become a wonder at that vision as Stephen sees, when `My Lord, standing ready to RECEIVE me,` see?

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present. (Q): Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane? (A): Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness! (Q): Is it possible for those that have passed into the spirit plane to at all times communicate with those in the earth plane? (A): Yes and no - for these conditions are as has been described - that the NECESSARY way or mode must be prepared; for as this: Ever has that vibration as is attracted and thrown off been active in the world as is exercised through that called the telephone, but without proper connection, without shorts, without any disturbance, may proper communication be made! These have not always been active to the PHYSICAL body. These are not always in proper accord to be used by the physical body. Just the same in that pattern. Those in the astral plane are not always ready. Those in the physical plane are not always ready. What conditions arise (is asked) that we in the physical plane are not ready? The MIND! What conditions arise that we in the astral plane are not ready? There are those same elements as has been outlined, of that of the development going on, and the willingness of that INDIVIDUAL to communicate, as given, see? but when set aright, these may - until passed into that Oneness, or returned again, or gone on beyond such communications. (Q): Is the effort for spirit communication as much effort on the part of the spirit entity as the effort that should be made on the part of the material or physical entity? (A): The force should never be applied, and may never be applied and be real, in either case. The willingness and the desire from both is necessary for the perfect communication, see? Illustrate this same condition by that physical condition as is seen in attunement of either that called radio, or of that called phone, or that of any of that vibratory force as is set by the electron in the material plane. Necessary for the perfect union that each be in accord. In other words, we find many in the astral plane SEEKING to give force active in the material. Many in the material SEEKING to delve into the astral. They must be made one, would they bring the better. (Q): What are the powers of the spirit entity? (A): Raised to the highest power as is developed in that plane, and are - as outlined - as VARYING as individual's power or ability to manifest, or to exercise that manifestation, in the material. We have not changed, see? for as we would say: What is the power of an individual in the PHYSICAL plane? Naught as it enters. Naught until it reaches that ability to GIVE of self in service. Yet, as we find, there is in all the world nothing that offers so much possibility as when the body of the human is born into the material plane. In the minds of every other, nothing offers more beautiful condition, raised to its same power, as the birth into that of the astral plane. Hence, how oft, how oft, is such seen in this entering! How expectant becomes both? Does it become a wonder at that vision as Stephen sees, when `My Lord, standing ready to RECEIVE me,` see?

What form of consciousness does the spirit entity assume?

That of the subconscious consciousness, as known in the material plane, or the acts and deeds, and thoughts, done in the body, are ever present before that being. Then consider what a hell digged by some, and what a haven and heaven builded by many.

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present. (Q): Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane? (A): Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness! (Q): Is it possible for those that have passed into the spirit plane to at all times communicate with those in the earth plane? (A): Yes and no - for these conditions are as has been described - that the NECESSARY way or mode must be prepared; for as this: Ever has that vibration as is attracted and thrown off been active in the world as is exercised through that called the telephone, but without proper connection, without shorts, without any disturbance, may proper communication be made! These have not always been active to the PHYSICAL body. These are not always in proper accord to be used by the physical body. Just the same in that pattern. Those in the astral plane are not always ready. Those in the physical plane are not always ready. What conditions arise (is asked) that we in the physical plane are not ready? The MIND! What conditions arise that we in the astral plane are not ready? There are those same elements as has been outlined, of that of the development going on, and the willingness of that INDIVIDUAL to communicate, as given, see? but when set aright, these may - until passed into that Oneness, or returned again, or gone on beyond such communications. (Q): Is the effort for spirit communication as much effort on the part of the spirit entity as the effort that should be made on the part of the material or physical entity? (A): The force should never be applied, and may never be applied and be real, in either case. The willingness and the desire from both is necessary for the perfect communication, see? Illustrate this same condition by that physical condition as is seen in attunement of either that called radio, or of that called phone, or that of any of that vibratory force as is set by the electron in the material plane. Necessary for the perfect union that each be in accord. In other words, we find many in the astral plane SEEKING to give force active in the material. Many in the material SEEKING to delve into the astral. They must be made one, would they bring the better. (Q): What are the powers of the spirit entity? (A): Raised to the highest power as is developed in that plane, and are - as outlined - as VARYING as individual's power or ability to manifest, or to exercise that manifestation, in the material. We have not changed, see? for as we would say: What is the power of an individual in the PHYSICAL plane? Naught as it enters. Naught until it reaches that ability to GIVE of self in service. Yet, as we find, there is in all the world nothing that offers so much possibility as when the body of the human is born into the material plane. In the minds of every other, nothing offers more beautiful condition, raised to its same power, as the birth into that of the astral plane. Hence, how oft, how oft, is such seen in this entering! How expectant becomes both? Does it become a wonder at that vision as Stephen sees, when `My Lord, standing ready to RECEIVE me,` see? (Q): What form of consciousness does the spirit entity assume? (A): That of the subconscious consciousness, as known in the material plane, or the acts and deeds, and thoughts, done in the body, are ever present before that being. Then consider what a hell digged by some, and what a haven and heaven builded by many.

What form or body does the spirit entity assume upon leaving the earth or material body?

Just as given. That builded by the body in its experience. We illustrate: Would one of a uniform body desire a change - would one of a crippled body desire a change the answer, as has oft been given: ACT that way, IT - the result, the change - comes about.

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present. (Q): Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane? (A): Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness! (Q): Is it possible for those that have passed into the spirit plane to at all times communicate with those in the earth plane? (A): Yes and no - for these conditions are as has been described - that the NECESSARY way or mode must be prepared; for as this: Ever has that vibration as is attracted and thrown off been active in the world as is exercised through that called the telephone, but without proper connection, without shorts, without any disturbance, may proper communication be made! These have not always been active to the PHYSICAL body. These are not always in proper accord to be used by the physical body. Just the same in that pattern. Those in the astral plane are not always ready. Those in the physical plane are not always ready. What conditions arise (is asked) that we in the physical plane are not ready? The MIND! What conditions arise that we in the astral plane are not ready? There are those same elements as has been outlined, of that of the development going on, and the willingness of that INDIVIDUAL to communicate, as given, see? but when set aright, these may - until passed into that Oneness, or returned again, or gone on beyond such communications. (Q): Is the effort for spirit communication as much effort on the part of the spirit entity as the effort that should be made on the part of the material or physical entity? (A): The force should never be applied, and may never be applied and be real, in either case. The willingness and the desire from both is necessary for the perfect communication, see? Illustrate this same condition by that physical condition as is seen in attunement of either that called radio, or of that called phone, or that of any of that vibratory force as is set by the electron in the material plane. Necessary for the perfect union that each be in accord. In other words, we find many in the astral plane SEEKING to give force active in the material. Many in the material SEEKING to delve into the astral. They must be made one, would they bring the better. (Q): What are the powers of the spirit entity? (A): Raised to the highest power as is developed in that plane, and are - as outlined - as VARYING as individual's power or ability to manifest, or to exercise that manifestation, in the material. We have not changed, see? for as we would say: What is the power of an individual in the PHYSICAL plane? Naught as it enters. Naught until it reaches that ability to GIVE of self in service. Yet, as we find, there is in all the world nothing that offers so much possibility as when the body of the human is born into the material plane. In the minds of every other, nothing offers more beautiful condition, raised to its same power, as the birth into that of the astral plane. Hence, how oft, how oft, is such seen in this entering! How expectant becomes both? Does it become a wonder at that vision as Stephen sees, when `My Lord, standing ready to RECEIVE me,` see? (Q): What form of consciousness does the spirit entity assume? (A): That of the subconscious consciousness, as known in the material plane, or the acts and deeds, and thoughts, done in the body, are ever present before that being. Then consider what a hell digged by some, and what a haven and heaven builded by many. (Q): What form or body does the spirit entity assume upon leaving the earth or material body? (A): Just as given. That builded by the body in its experience. We illustrate: Would one of a uniform body desire a change - would one of a crippled body desire a change the answer, as has oft been given: ACT that way, IT - the result, the change - comes about.

What physical thing may an individual do to be able to communicate with those that have passed into the spirit plane?

Lay aside the carnal or sensuous mind and desire that those who would use that mentality, that soul, for its vehicle of expression, do so in the manner chosen by that soul; for some communicate in act, in sight, in movement, in voice, in writing, in drawing, in speaking, and in the various forces as are manifest - for force is ONE force.

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present. (Q): Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane? (A): Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness! (Q): Is it possible for those that have passed into the spirit plane to at all times communicate with those in the earth plane? (A): Yes and no - for these conditions are as has been described - that the NECESSARY way or mode must be prepared; for as this: Ever has that vibration as is attracted and thrown off been active in the world as is exercised through that called the telephone, but without proper connection, without shorts, without any disturbance, may proper communication be made! These have not always been active to the PHYSICAL body. These are not always in proper accord to be used by the physical body. Just the same in that pattern. Those in the astral plane are not always ready. Those in the physical plane are not always ready. What conditions arise (is asked) that we in the physical plane are not ready? The MIND! What conditions arise that we in the astral plane are not ready? There are those same elements as has been outlined, of that of the development going on, and the willingness of that INDIVIDUAL to communicate, as given, see? but when set aright, these may - until passed into that Oneness, or returned again, or gone on beyond such communications. (Q): Is the effort for spirit communication as much effort on the part of the spirit entity as the effort that should be made on the part of the material or physical entity? (A): The force should never be applied, and may never be applied and be real, in either case. The willingness and the desire from both is necessary for the perfect communication, see? Illustrate this same condition by that physical condition as is seen in attunement of either that called radio, or of that called phone, or that of any of that vibratory force as is set by the electron in the material plane. Necessary for the perfect union that each be in accord. In other words, we find many in the astral plane SEEKING to give force active in the material. Many in the material SEEKING to delve into the astral. They must be made one, would they bring the better. (Q): What are the powers of the spirit entity? (A): Raised to the highest power as is developed in that plane, and are - as outlined - as VARYING as individual's power or ability to manifest, or to exercise that manifestation, in the material. We have not changed, see? for as we would say: What is the power of an individual in the PHYSICAL plane? Naught as it enters. Naught until it reaches that ability to GIVE of self in service. Yet, as we find, there is in all the world nothing that offers so much possibility as when the body of the human is born into the material plane. In the minds of every other, nothing offers more beautiful condition, raised to its same power, as the birth into that of the astral plane. Hence, how oft, how oft, is such seen in this entering! How expectant becomes both? Does it become a wonder at that vision as Stephen sees, when `My Lord, standing ready to RECEIVE me,` see? (Q): What form of consciousness does the spirit entity assume? (A): That of the subconscious consciousness, as known in the material plane, or the acts and deeds, and thoughts, done in the body, are ever present before that being. Then consider what a hell digged by some, and what a haven and heaven builded by many. (Q): What form or body does the spirit entity assume upon leaving the earth or material body? (A): Just as given. That builded by the body in its experience. We illustrate: Would one of a uniform body desire a change - would one of a crippled body desire a change the answer, as has oft been given: ACT that way, IT - the result, the change - comes about. (Q): What physical thing may an individual do to be able to communicate with those that have passed into the spirit plane? (A): Lay aside the carnal or sensuous mind and desire that those who would use that mentality, that soul, for its vehicle of expression, do so in the manner chosen by that soul; for some communicate in act, in sight, in movement, in voice, in writing, in drawing, in speaking, and in the various forces as are manifest - for force is ONE force.

Where is the dwelling place of such spirit entities?

That that such entity has builded, and as it (the entity) draws about it, or desires same shall be. In the earth's plane many are attracted by those conditions and are held by many loved ones, when their desires to be on the way, as it were. Building in that way and manner as is in its heart of hearts, soul of soul, to be about. See? Now, the dwelling place is as builded by that entity, and in that place about the earth and the earth's sphere, time is no time, space no space, to such entities.

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(Q): Describe to me what (Mrs. [3776]) saw as she entered the spirit plane, when she said `Mrs. [139] says she will guide me over.` (A): Just that same experience as has just been described. The desire in the mind - soul mind - and the physical mind, to be at a oneness, one with the other, and to give to each that as necessary for that wonderful development possible in that plane - for, as is seen, we find as this experience in THIS condition: The mind in that accord with the soul forces, in action, meets those who are the active in that of the aid in the development. Hence we find this very active force in the soul body, Mrs. [139] ready - and with that consciousness of the conditions in action going on - guiding and meeting the soul body in its transition, and the spirit body, mind, soul, attuned in that of the physical body, (Mrs. [3776]), so it answers one with another, and is capable of being hearkened back or to such condition, see? (Q): How may force act in unmaterialized form - i.e. without matter to embrace in itself the many individual self consciousness separated by space in the material form - i.e. man, but all one inner self in the cosmic or 4th dimension? (A): Just in the manner as has been described and given, in how that the transition of one force becomes as the portion of the whole force. As is, that each is the pattern, one of another, or as may be illustrated: How does the force or power transmitted from the powerhouse light each individual globe in the city? Each have their connection. Each have their various forms, or their various powers, according to that as has been set. Now, applying same in the illustrative forces, we find each being in accord, each being in the direct connection, each apply, manifest, according to that as is builded in the individual in its transition, or in its experience, and as the various forces are manifested each give off that as is taken on. We are through for the present. (Q): Is it possible for those passing into the spiritual plane to be conscious of both the material and the spiritual plane? (A): Just as given. Just as is seen in the various experiences of those who are spiritually minded - yet many carnal minds have passed from the body for days before they realized they were passed. Sensuousness! (Q): Is it possible for those that have passed into the spirit plane to at all times communicate with those in the earth plane? (A): Yes and no - for these conditions are as has been described - that the NECESSARY way or mode must be prepared; for as this: Ever has that vibration as is attracted and thrown off been active in the world as is exercised through that called the telephone, but without proper connection, without shorts, without any disturbance, may proper communication be made! These have not always been active to the PHYSICAL body. These are not always in proper accord to be used by the physical body. Just the same in that pattern. Those in the astral plane are not always ready. Those in the physical plane are not always ready. What conditions arise (is asked) that we in the physical plane are not ready? The MIND! What conditions arise that we in the astral plane are not ready? There are those same elements as has been outlined, of that of the development going on, and the willingness of that INDIVIDUAL to communicate, as given, see? but when set aright, these may - until passed into that Oneness, or returned again, or gone on beyond such communications. (Q): Is the effort for spirit communication as much effort on the part of the spirit entity as the effort that should be made on the part of the material or physical entity? (A): The force should never be applied, and may never be applied and be real, in either case. The willingness and the desire from both is necessary for the perfect communication, see? Illustrate this same condition by that physical condition as is seen in attunement of either that called radio, or of that called phone, or that of any of that vibratory force as is set by the electron in the material plane. Necessary for the perfect union that each be in accord. In other words, we find many in the astral plane SEEKING to give force active in the material. Many in the material SEEKING to delve into the astral. They must be made one, would they bring the better. (Q): What are the powers of the spirit entity? (A): Raised to the highest power as is developed in that plane, and are - as outlined - as VARYING as individual's power or ability to manifest, or to exercise that manifestation, in the material. We have not changed, see? for as we would say: What is the power of an individual in the PHYSICAL plane? Naught as it enters. Naught until it reaches that ability to GIVE of self in service. Yet, as we find, there is in all the world nothing that offers so much possibility as when the body of the human is born into the material plane. In the minds of every other, nothing offers more beautiful condition, raised to its same power, as the birth into that of the astral plane. Hence, how oft, how oft, is such seen in this entering! How expectant becomes both? Does it become a wonder at that vision as Stephen sees, when `My Lord, standing ready to RECEIVE me,` see? (Q): What form of consciousness does the spirit entity assume? (A): That of the subconscious consciousness, as known in the material plane, or the acts and deeds, and thoughts, done in the body, are ever present before that being. Then consider what a hell digged by some, and what a haven and heaven builded by many. (Q): What form or body does the spirit entity assume upon leaving the earth or material body? (A): Just as given. That builded by the body in its experience. We illustrate: Would one of a uniform body desire a change - would one of a crippled body desire a change the answer, as has oft been given: ACT that way, IT - the result, the change - comes about. (Q): What physical thing may an individual do to be able to communicate with those that have passed into the spirit plane? (A): Lay aside the carnal or sensuous mind and desire that those who would use that mentality, that soul, for its vehicle of expression, do so in the manner chosen by that soul; for some communicate in act, in sight, in movement, in voice, in writing, in drawing, in speaking, and in the various forces as are manifest - for force is ONE force. (Q): Where is the dwelling place of such spirit entities? (A): That that such entity has builded, and as it (the entity) draws about it, or desires same shall be. In the earth's plane many are attracted by those conditions and are held by many loved ones, when their desires to be on the way, as it were. Building in that way and manner as is in its heart of hearts, soul of soul, to be about. See? Now, the dwelling place is as builded by that entity, and in that place about the earth and the earth's sphere, time is no time, space no space, to such entities.

You will have before you all the information that has been given in psychic readings by Edgar Cayce concerning communication with those who have passed into the spirit plane. You will correlate all of this information in a systematic way and manner, that this may be understood by the conscious mind of any individual studying the subject, and you will answer all questions that I will ask you concerning this subject that should be answered. You will continue with such information which was begun yesterday, March 16, 1927, in 5756-3.

(After having the first suggestion repeated and being told to continue) Yes. Now, we have the information here, and that as has been given. Continuing: First, let it be understood there is the pattern in the material or physical plane of every condition as exists in the cosmic or spiritual plane, for things spiritual and things material are but those same conditions raised to a different condition of the same element - for all force is as of one force. In that period when the spirit, or when the soul, (best that these be classified, that these be not misunderstood, then, in their relations one to another) is in the material, the body physically composed of the physical body, the mind, and the soul, add the subconscious mind, and the superconscious mind, or the spirit. In the make-up of the active forces of the physical body, it (the body) is constituted of many, many, cells - each with its individual world within itself, controlled by the spirit that is everlasting, and guided by that of the soul, which is a counterpart - or the breath that makes that body individual, and when the body is changed, and this is the soul body, the elements as are patterned are of the same. That is, that builded by thought and deed becomes the active particles, atoms, that make up that soul body, see? 8. When the soul passes, then, from the physical body, it (the soul body) then constituted with those atoms of thought (that are mind) and are of the Creative Forces a part, and then we have the soul body, with the mind, the subconscious mind, its attributes - which have been explained or given heretofore, as the relation of what the subconscious mind is - which never forgets, and is then as the sensuous [conscious] mind of the soul body; the spirit or superconscious mind being that as the subconscious mind of the material body - the place, then, of the resident or residence, or that occupied by the soul body becomes to the finite mind the first question. The occupancy is at once - as is seen here, there are about us many, MANY, many, soul bodies; those upon whom the thought of an individual, the whole being of an individual is attracted to, by that element of thought - just the same as the action in the material body - for remember, we are patterned, see? one as of another. In the next, then, we find that, that as BUILDED by that soul is as the residence of that soul, the companion with that as has been builded by that soul - either of the earthbound or of that element or sphere, or plane, that has its attraction through that created in that soul being in the actions, by the thoughts, of that as an individual. Hence we find there are presented the same conditions in the astral or cosmic world, or cosmic consciousness, as is present in the material plane - until the consciousness of that soul has reached that development wherein such a soul is raised to that consciousness ABOVE the earth's sphere, or earth's attractive forces - until it reaches up, up, outward, until included in the ALL, see? In the next step, then, we find, as regarding information given, the ability of such a body, or entity, to communicate with those in the material plane: Question and answers are often confusing, by those that give or supply information concerning such experiences; for each experience is as individual as the individual that receives same, or the entity that transmits same, and the possibility, probability, the ABILITY, of individuals to so communicate, or so draw on those forces, is raised, limited, or gained, by the act of the individual seeking its ability to so communicate - for, remembering, conditions are not changed. We find individuals at times communicative. At other times uncommunicative. There are moods, and there are moods. There are conditions in which such conditions are easily attained. There are others that are hard, as it were, to meet or cope with. The same condition remains in that distant sphere - as is felt by many - when it is the SAME sphere, UNLESS the individual, or the entity, has passed on. Then the next question that arises is: How are such communications brought about? Just as given. When the body (material) attunes self to that plane wherein the sensuous consciousness is in obeisance to the laws of physical or material, and the spiritual or astral laws are effective, those of the astral plane may communicate, in thought, in power, in form. What form, then, do such bodies assume? The desired form as is built and made by that individual in its experience through the material plane. Remembering our pattern. We find bodies are made by the action of cell units in the material body. Some to beauty, some to distress by that merited for the physical experience. Hence a necessity of a physical experience, that the DESIRES that build may be made, changed, or acted upon. Again we return to the astral or the soul body. In the various forms of communication, why, WHY, is such communication so often of seemingly an unnecessary nature, or seemingly inadequate to the mind of the soul entity, as understood by the mind of one hearing, seeing, or experiencing, such a communication? As may be illustrated in: The message as may be received from the boy just passed into the spirit world, and able through mediumistic forces of someone to communicate to mother, `All is well. Do not grieve. Do not long for the change.` Such seems to be in the nature of rebuke to a sensuous mind when momentous questions as might be propounded, could be, or would be - as some mind would say - given. Remember the pattern as is set before. Is the greeting, IS the greeting of some profound questions the first meeting? Rather cultivate that of such communications, and receive the answer to that of the most profound that may be propounded in any way and manner to those seeking such information. Is such information always true? Always true, so far as the individual has brought self into that attunement as is necessary for the perfect understanding of same. Do not attempt to govern information, or judge information, by the incorrect law, see? When force is taken, what is the impelling force such as is seen in the movement of material objects? When under stress, the communication or the appearance of the soul body is in contact with the individual mind; such as we have seen and experienced through that of the information as has been given. Such impelling forces, we find, are the combination of that in the individual receiving and in the abilities of the individual so communicating - that is, we find that in the various experiences of individuals, levitation, or objects that are of material nature, are moved about by the active principle of the INDIVIDUAL THROUGH WHOM SUCH MANIFESTATIONS ARE BEING MADE, and not by spirit action, or soul action. Yet CONTROLLED by that cosmic consciousness. Don't leave that out, see? Controlled - for, as given, the body must be subjugated that such force may manifest. Then we see undue strength, undue power, is seen exercised at such periods. True - for things that are controlled by spirit alone are of a great deal greater active force than of the sensuous mind, as a trained mind is more active than one untrained. Now many questions have been given. Many various forms of the active forces of communicative energies, or of soul forces, as are manifested in the spirit world and in the material world, have been given - but these as we have given here are set forth that those who would study may have the basis of an understanding that will give each and everyone that knowledge that the physical world, and the cosmic world, or the astral world, are one - for the consciousness, the sensuous-consciousness, is as the growth from the subconsciousness into the material world. The growth in the astral world is the growth, or the digesting and the building of that same oneness in the spirit, the conscious, the subconscious, the cosmic, or the astral world. We find, from one to another, individuals - individuals - retained in that oneness, until each is made one in the Great Whole - the Creative Energy of the Universal Forces as are ever manifest in the material plane. We are ready for the questions that may be asked, as we see here, concerning various conditions - for many are gathered about to give their various experiences as have been passed through in this transition period.

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Give suggestions.

We have John Drew here, speaking - Considering the plans for the outline of the work as being contemplated through the Association as has been formed, why not consider more of those of the profession? for long have these people sought a way, a plan, or a means whereby these might be taken the more care of when such conditions overtake them, and it is well known that all of the profession are, in a manner, susceptible to suggestions through the psychic - for they are aware that such conditions exist. By play acting, as it were, they come to know more of that of the conscious and subconscious, and superconscious forces, than is ordinarily supposed. Consider this.

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(After pause) What information is this you wish to give?

Keep up the good work this will pass on - and, as given you oftentimes, do not let those use you nor abuse you, nor those applications of the truths as are given through these sources for individual benefits, neither let them be abused by those who receive such information or instructions, for in the way that brings understanding will bring to others that ability to apply the greater truths that may be gained from time to time.

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(Q): (After pause) What information is this you wish to give? (A): Keep up the good work this will pass on - and, as given you oftentimes, do not let those use you nor abuse you, nor those applications of the truths as are given through these sources for individual benefits, neither let them be abused by those who receive such information or instructions, for in the way that brings understanding will bring to others that ability to apply the greater truths that may be gained from time to time.

Any further information or message?

Will be more here again - going now. [GD's note: Mr. Cayce on awaking told us he had known Mr. Wilgus in Hopkinsville, Ky. He had apparently been very fond of Mr. Cayce as a boy and a young man; he had told him he was going to leave him some money - but when Mr. Wilgus died no will was found mentioning the bequest. [See 5756-13, Par. 9-A.]]

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(Q): (After pause) What information is this you wish to give? (A): Keep up the good work this will pass on - and, as given you oftentimes, do not let those use you nor abuse you, nor those applications of the truths as are given through these sources for individual benefits, neither let them be abused by those who receive such information or instructions, for in the way that brings understanding will bring to others that ability to apply the greater truths that may be gained from time to time. (Q): Any further information or message? (A): Will be more here again - going now. [GD's note: Mr. Cayce on awaking told us he had known Mr. Wilgus in Hopkinsville, Ky. He had apparently been very fond of Mr. Cayce as a boy and a young man; he had told him he was going to leave him some money - but when Mr. Wilgus died no will was found mentioning the bequest. [See 5756-13, Par. 9-A.]]

Any specific time that would be best for Edgar Cayce to do this?

When he is in the place would be the best time.

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(Q): (After pause) What information is this you wish to give? (A): Keep up the good work this will pass on - and, as given you oftentimes, do not let those use you nor abuse you, nor those applications of the truths as are given through these sources for individual benefits, neither let them be abused by those who receive such information or instructions, for in the way that brings understanding will bring to others that ability to apply the greater truths that may be gained from time to time. (Q): Any further information or message? (A): Will be more here again - going now. [GD's note: Mr. Cayce on awaking told us he had known Mr. Wilgus in Hopkinsville, Ky. He had apparently been very fond of Mr. Cayce as a boy and a young man; he had told him he was going to leave him some money - but when Mr. Wilgus died no will was found mentioning the bequest. [See 5756-13, Par. 9-A.]] (Q): Any specific time that would be best for Edgar Cayce to do this? (A): When he is in the place would be the best time.

Give suggestions.

William A. Wilgus - $71,000 - $10,000 given for Edgar Cayce.

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(Q): (After pause) What information is this you wish to give? (A): Keep up the good work this will pass on - and, as given you oftentimes, do not let those use you nor abuse you, nor those applications of the truths as are given through these sources for individual benefits, neither let them be abused by those who receive such information or instructions, for in the way that brings understanding will bring to others that ability to apply the greater truths that may be gained from time to time. (Q): Any further information or message? (A): Will be more here again - going now. [GD's note: Mr. Cayce on awaking told us he had known Mr. Wilgus in Hopkinsville, Ky. He had apparently been very fond of Mr. Cayce as a boy and a young man; he had told him he was going to leave him some money - but when Mr. Wilgus died no will was found mentioning the bequest. [See 5756-13, Par. 9-A.]] (Q): Any specific time that would be best for Edgar Cayce to do this? (A): When he is in the place would be the best time. (Q): Give suggestions. (A): William A. Wilgus - $71,000 - $10,000 given for Edgar Cayce.

How may he get this money?

Just the same way as has been given before respecting those papers that were left in the bank then - at the bank here, in First National Bank - 561 is the box.

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(Q): (After pause) What information is this you wish to give? (A): Keep up the good work this will pass on - and, as given you oftentimes, do not let those use you nor abuse you, nor those applications of the truths as are given through these sources for individual benefits, neither let them be abused by those who receive such information or instructions, for in the way that brings understanding will bring to others that ability to apply the greater truths that may be gained from time to time. (Q): Any further information or message? (A): Will be more here again - going now. [GD's note: Mr. Cayce on awaking told us he had known Mr. Wilgus in Hopkinsville, Ky. He had apparently been very fond of Mr. Cayce as a boy and a young man; he had told him he was going to leave him some money - but when Mr. Wilgus died no will was found mentioning the bequest. [See 5756-13, Par. 9-A.]] (Q): Any specific time that would be best for Edgar Cayce to do this? (A): When he is in the place would be the best time. (Q): Give suggestions. (A): William A. Wilgus - $71,000 - $10,000 given for Edgar Cayce. (Q): How may he get this money? (A): Just the same way as has been given before respecting those papers that were left in the bank then - at the bank here, in First National Bank - 561 is the box.

Should Edgar Cayce go to this bank and ask for these?

Go to bank and ask for these - George Long and Weathers.

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(Q): (After pause) What information is this you wish to give? (A): Keep up the good work this will pass on - and, as given you oftentimes, do not let those use you nor abuse you, nor those applications of the truths as are given through these sources for individual benefits, neither let them be abused by those who receive such information or instructions, for in the way that brings understanding will bring to others that ability to apply the greater truths that may be gained from time to time. (Q): Any further information or message? (A): Will be more here again - going now. [GD's note: Mr. Cayce on awaking told us he had known Mr. Wilgus in Hopkinsville, Ky. He had apparently been very fond of Mr. Cayce as a boy and a young man; he had told him he was going to leave him some money - but when Mr. Wilgus died no will was found mentioning the bequest. [See 5756-13, Par. 9-A.]] (Q): Any specific time that would be best for Edgar Cayce to do this? (A): When he is in the place would be the best time. (Q): Give suggestions. (A): William A. Wilgus - $71,000 - $10,000 given for Edgar Cayce. (Q): How may he get this money? (A): Just the same way as has been given before respecting those papers that were left in the bank then - at the bank here, in First National Bank - 561 is the box. (Q): Should Edgar Cayce go to this bank and ask for these? (A): Go to bank and ask for these - George Long and Weathers.

This is information coming through Mr. Wilgus - from Mr. Wilgus, rather?

This is I speaking - Bill Wilgus.

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(Q): (After pause) What information is this you wish to give? (A): Keep up the good work this will pass on - and, as given you oftentimes, do not let those use you nor abuse you, nor those applications of the truths as are given through these sources for individual benefits, neither let them be abused by those who receive such information or instructions, for in the way that brings understanding will bring to others that ability to apply the greater truths that may be gained from time to time. (Q): Any further information or message? (A): Will be more here again - going now. [GD's note: Mr. Cayce on awaking told us he had known Mr. Wilgus in Hopkinsville, Ky. He had apparently been very fond of Mr. Cayce as a boy and a young man; he had told him he was going to leave him some money - but when Mr. Wilgus died no will was found mentioning the bequest. [See 5756-13, Par. 9-A.]] (Q): Any specific time that would be best for Edgar Cayce to do this? (A): When he is in the place would be the best time. (Q): Give suggestions. (A): William A. Wilgus - $71,000 - $10,000 given for Edgar Cayce. (Q): How may he get this money? (A): Just the same way as has been given before respecting those papers that were left in the bank then - at the bank here, in First National Bank - 561 is the box. (Q): Should Edgar Cayce go to this bank and ask for these? (A): Go to bank and ask for these - George Long and Weathers. (Q): This is information coming through Mr. Wilgus - from Mr. Wilgus, rather? (A): This is I speaking - Bill Wilgus.

What is this reference to $71,000 and $10,000?

$71,000 the amount of the estate - $10,000 set aside for the work in which Edgar is engaged.

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Give suggestions.

Now, there are many here that would speak concerning the various things as has been given regarding the educational end of the institutional work. THREE would speak concerning the varied approach, of the way as is given by each. As we find, Robertson would say - In the presentation of the pamphlets as lessons, the spectacular of each individual experience is an approach. While we find Funk would say - The REASON and the self-application would be the better approach. While we find, as is presented by Hudson - that the WAY of individual approach is the manner that should be presented in ANY information as is given to the public, knowing that - as has so often been said - it is first to the individual, THEN to the classes, then to the masses. CLASSES being the classification under the three heads as may be presented under the teaching or the INFLUENCE of each of these who were teachers in their physical experience. One the wonderer, the other the student, the other the reasoner - or the exhorter. In each field there is a class. While individuals differ, let the first PRINCIPLE be the starting point - ALL IS ONE! We are through for the present.

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Does communication further or retard, or not affect, the spiritual progression of those in spirit life?

It does all! There are the same elements as in material; for, as IS known, that which has materialized into matter is of the elements that are dematerializing, or dematerialized, and where aid may be lent there must be the desire. Even as seen, known, understood by many, those desires have carried an entity on to heights that are detrimental to be called into association with purely materialization, or material, for all are given to that to which they have attuned or builded, that that is of both the material and spiritual essence of truth, fact, condition, whether positive, negative, or static.

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(Q): Does communication further or retard, or not affect, the spiritual progression of those in spirit life? (A): It does all! There are the same elements as in material; for, as IS known, that which has materialized into matter is of the elements that are dematerializing, or dematerialized, and where aid may be lent there must be the desire. Even as seen, known, understood by many, those desires have carried an entity on to heights that are detrimental to be called into association with purely materialization, or material, for all are given to that to which they have attuned or builded, that that is of both the material and spiritual essence of truth, fact, condition, whether positive, negative, or static.

Does the communication between those who have passed into the spirit plane and those on the earth depend on previously established relationships, on understanding and love, or upon what?

`As the tree falleth so will it lie.` Because there are changes in the dimensional conditions does not alter that which is known in the earth plane as desire. If the desire is in that direction that there may be an association with, an aid to, a seeking of such associations, then only the means, the channel, the way, the course, is necessary to complete the communication. The attunement of that materially known as the radio may offer an illustration for this. If there is the desire that the communication be with those from plane to plane, the attunement of an individual in the material or earth plane to the attunement of the entity in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane is necessary. Remember the first premise, `As the tree falleth so does it lie.` If there is the desire on the part of those in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane to be communicated with, and the same element of desire is attuned from another plane, stratum, sphere or condition, then such may be done; hence, it may truly be said that ALL factors have their influence, desire the ruling one; and the desire must be attuned to the same vibration of the one in another plane, as the radio; for who of those seeking would seek His Face must know, believe, that He is, attuning their abilities, their efforts, in that direction, acting, feeling, knowing, that there IS the response.

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(Q): Does communication further or retard, or not affect, the spiritual progression of those in spirit life? (A): It does all! There are the same elements as in material; for, as IS known, that which has materialized into matter is of the elements that are dematerializing, or dematerialized, and where aid may be lent there must be the desire. Even as seen, known, understood by many, those desires have carried an entity on to heights that are detrimental to be called into association with purely materialization, or material, for all are given to that to which they have attuned or builded, that that is of both the material and spiritual essence of truth, fact, condition, whether positive, negative, or static. (Q): Does the communication between those who have passed into the spirit plane and those on the earth depend on previously established relationships, on understanding and love, or upon what? (A): `As the tree falleth so will it lie.` Because there are changes in the dimensional conditions does not alter that which is known in the earth plane as desire. If the desire is in that direction that there may be an association with, an aid to, a seeking of such associations, then only the means, the channel, the way, the course, is necessary to complete the communication. The attunement of that materially known as the radio may offer an illustration for this. If there is the desire that the communication be with those from plane to plane, the attunement of an individual in the material or earth plane to the attunement of the entity in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane is necessary. Remember the first premise, `As the tree falleth so does it lie.` If there is the desire on the part of those in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane to be communicated with, and the same element of desire is attuned from another plane, stratum, sphere or condition, then such may be done; hence, it may truly be said that ALL factors have their influence, desire the ruling one; and the desire must be attuned to the same vibration of the one in another plane, as the radio; for who of those seeking would seek His Face must know, believe, that He is, attuning their abilities, their efforts, in that direction, acting, feeling, knowing, that there IS the response.

Is there a difference in degree of power of clairvoyants and clairaudiants?

This depends upon the operator, actor, or power of the entity so acting or being acted upon; for, as given from the first premise, some are more persuasive by that which is seen, while others by that heard. So, the power that is manifest depends upon both the subject and that to which directed. To some one would be greater evidence, greater activity, greater in the scope of abilities, of premise, of action. To others the other would be just as convincing, powerful, far-reaching; hence there is given, not all are teachers, not all are ministers, not all are given to speaking in tongues, not all to healing; rather as to what the reaction to the opportunity has been of the entity in relationship to that set as ITS standard.

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(Q): Does communication further or retard, or not affect, the spiritual progression of those in spirit life? (A): It does all! There are the same elements as in material; for, as IS known, that which has materialized into matter is of the elements that are dematerializing, or dematerialized, and where aid may be lent there must be the desire. Even as seen, known, understood by many, those desires have carried an entity on to heights that are detrimental to be called into association with purely materialization, or material, for all are given to that to which they have attuned or builded, that that is of both the material and spiritual essence of truth, fact, condition, whether positive, negative, or static. (Q): Does the communication between those who have passed into the spirit plane and those on the earth depend on previously established relationships, on understanding and love, or upon what? (A): `As the tree falleth so will it lie.` Because there are changes in the dimensional conditions does not alter that which is known in the earth plane as desire. If the desire is in that direction that there may be an association with, an aid to, a seeking of such associations, then only the means, the channel, the way, the course, is necessary to complete the communication. The attunement of that materially known as the radio may offer an illustration for this. If there is the desire that the communication be with those from plane to plane, the attunement of an individual in the material or earth plane to the attunement of the entity in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane is necessary. Remember the first premise, `As the tree falleth so does it lie.` If there is the desire on the part of those in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane to be communicated with, and the same element of desire is attuned from another plane, stratum, sphere or condition, then such may be done; hence, it may truly be said that ALL factors have their influence, desire the ruling one; and the desire must be attuned to the same vibration of the one in another plane, as the radio; for who of those seeking would seek His Face must know, believe, that He is, attuning their abilities, their efforts, in that direction, acting, feeling, knowing, that there IS the response. (Q): Is there a difference in degree of power of clairvoyants and clairaudiants? (A): This depends upon the operator, actor, or power of the entity so acting or being acted upon; for, as given from the first premise, some are more persuasive by that which is seen, while others by that heard. So, the power that is manifest depends upon both the subject and that to which directed. To some one would be greater evidence, greater activity, greater in the scope of abilities, of premise, of action. To others the other would be just as convincing, powerful, far-reaching; hence there is given, not all are teachers, not all are ministers, not all are given to speaking in tongues, not all to healing; rather as to what the reaction to the opportunity has been of the entity in relationship to that set as ITS standard.

Why are communications so much more frequent in Europe than America, also clearer, fuller?

This should be a greater indication to the thinker of that so oft given, `Thoughts are things and may be miracles or crimes.` Mind and thought are the builder, and upon that thought, that as made, may there be builded that through which there may be the greater source of the communications established. Then, this shows that variation in the spiritual-minded surroundings and the material-minded surroundings. From the first premise given, it is not to be reckoned that there is not the spirituality in those even that are called material-minded, but rather reason from that which has been given. Those that signify, testify, glorify the Giver of life are in the proper course. Those that glorify self are in that class that must be put away. We are through for the present. Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce ` ` File

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(Q): Does communication further or retard, or not affect, the spiritual progression of those in spirit life? (A): It does all! There are the same elements as in material; for, as IS known, that which has materialized into matter is of the elements that are dematerializing, or dematerialized, and where aid may be lent there must be the desire. Even as seen, known, understood by many, those desires have carried an entity on to heights that are detrimental to be called into association with purely materialization, or material, for all are given to that to which they have attuned or builded, that that is of both the material and spiritual essence of truth, fact, condition, whether positive, negative, or static. (Q): Does the communication between those who have passed into the spirit plane and those on the earth depend on previously established relationships, on understanding and love, or upon what? (A): `As the tree falleth so will it lie.` Because there are changes in the dimensional conditions does not alter that which is known in the earth plane as desire. If the desire is in that direction that there may be an association with, an aid to, a seeking of such associations, then only the means, the channel, the way, the course, is necessary to complete the communication. The attunement of that materially known as the radio may offer an illustration for this. If there is the desire that the communication be with those from plane to plane, the attunement of an individual in the material or earth plane to the attunement of the entity in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane is necessary. Remember the first premise, `As the tree falleth so does it lie.` If there is the desire on the part of those in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane to be communicated with, and the same element of desire is attuned from another plane, stratum, sphere or condition, then such may be done; hence, it may truly be said that ALL factors have their influence, desire the ruling one; and the desire must be attuned to the same vibration of the one in another plane, as the radio; for who of those seeking would seek His Face must know, believe, that He is, attuning their abilities, their efforts, in that direction, acting, feeling, knowing, that there IS the response. (Q): Is there a difference in degree of power of clairvoyants and clairaudiants? (A): This depends upon the operator, actor, or power of the entity so acting or being acted upon; for, as given from the first premise, some are more persuasive by that which is seen, while others by that heard. So, the power that is manifest depends upon both the subject and that to which directed. To some one would be greater evidence, greater activity, greater in the scope of abilities, of premise, of action. To others the other would be just as convincing, powerful, far-reaching; hence there is given, not all are teachers, not all are ministers, not all are given to speaking in tongues, not all to healing; rather as to what the reaction to the opportunity has been of the entity in relationship to that set as ITS standard. (Q): Why are communications so much more frequent in Europe than America, also clearer, fuller? (A): This should be a greater indication to the thinker of that so oft given, `Thoughts are things and may be miracles or crimes.` Mind and thought are the builder, and upon that thought, that as made, may there be builded that through which there may be the greater source of the communications established. Then, this shows that variation in the spiritual-minded surroundings and the material-minded surroundings. From the first premise given, it is not to be reckoned that there is not the spirituality in those even that are called material-minded, but rather reason from that which has been given. Those that signify, testify, glorify the Giver of life are in the proper course. Those that glorify self are in that class that must be put away. We are through for the present. Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce ` ` File

You will have before you the subject of communication with entities in the spirit or fourth dimensional plane and the laws that govern such communication. You will answer in clear understandable terms the questions which will be asked.

Yes, we have those conditions under which there is possible the communication to the fourth dimensional, or from one dimensional plane to another. In considering all such communication, or information, first it should be considered by or from those tenets that have oft been given concerning those that have familiar spirits, or wizards, or witchcraft, and be judged by or in the light of that which has been given respecting such. Ready for questions.

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Give suggestions.

Some good information here!

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): Some good information here!

May we have it at this time?

The concept of personality of disincarnate entities or souls is so easily misunderstood. We would present through this channel a concept that we see would become most helpful. Then, seek ye this as oft as possible, until there has been from these sources a presentation of that we find would be helpful at this time. When any great movement is begun, whether it be political, economic, social or religious, it gains adherents to a line of thought presented by an individual. Now, let's not lose this idea (individuality and personality)! In the finite world, or your earth's sphere only, personality is comprehensible oft to the masses, or to the populace, or vox pop [vox populi]. In the gaining of adherents the unseen influence gains momentum; entities passing from the conscious to the unseen - or to the borderland - that are adherents to a line of thought - add to the momentum of that thought. Oft, as we find, when some great movement loses its leader, apparently some portion of that movement, or the whole general thought of that individual, loses prestige. So we begin to see how that the thought, or mental movement that produces thought in the minds of souls in the earth, may be influenced by that movement outside of self! As an illustration: There is felt (and it is gaining in its expression until many have gone off at tangents) that there is to be, and is imminent a change in the whole world as to religious thought; a new ideal, a new purpose, a renewing of the spirit within. Seek further. We are through for the present. [10/9/33 GD's note: The above was given in a very clear and distinct, apparently English, voice; not Edgar Cayce's usual speaking voice during a reading. It sounded like Edgar Cayce, but more as if he were acting the part of an Englishman - trying to repeat the tone of voice and comments of an Englishman standing by; not at all as if the Englishman had taken over.]

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Psychic phenomena of every kind is so closely associated with the many varied concepts and ideas of spiritualism or spiritism that there seems a need for this Association to present its findings through this channel on this subject. You will please advise us in regard to the preparation of such a paper and give at this time such data as will clarify that already received and be in keeping with the ideals of our work.

Yes. In preparing that which may be presented through these channels as the concept of the Association regarding Spiritism or Spiritualism, isn't it rather well that the varied phases or concepts of manifestations that are accredited to psychic influences, occult or mystic forces, be separated or designated by those seeking such information? that there may be the proper stress or proper accent upon the varied or numerous phases of such phenomena, and how same has played a part in that which has been left or presented to the various groups of a thought or purpose? THEN there may be gained through these channels the proper relationships, the proper conditions. For, to begin: For, were one to take any form of phenomena that may present itself, this would be ONLY the concept of an individual influence; unless there was then the reaching into the realms of the unknown (from the finite mind) and correlate that which has been presented in that taken as Scripture, whether from the Christian viewpoint, the Jew, the Parthian, or the various isms or schisms that have been presented through the ages. For, the philosophy presented by Confucius, Tao, Buddha, Brahma, the concept reached by any of these, is necessary for the finite mind to gain the proper concept of how same has influenced, does and will influence, the mind of man as it has delved and does delve into the regions of the mind. What, then, would be the approach? As is seen (from that we have presented through these channels, or here and there a reference made), there must have been a beginning of matter as it is conceived or recognized in the material earth. For, the influence of such forces must be as well applied to the associations or beings of Jupiter, Mars, Uranus, Neptune, Mercury, the Sun, the Moon, or any of the constellations or other worlds. Hence the proper approach, the proper concept or proper conception of questions would be: HOW DID THE INFLUENCE KNOWN AS SPIRIT MOVE UPON THE VARIOUS MATTERS THAT CAME INTO EXISTENCE? AND HOW DID THE INFLUENCE MANIFEST ITSELF UPON THE BEINGS THAT SEPARATED INTO THE VARIED KINGDOMS THAT INHABIT SUCH AS THE EARTH? For (This explanation, not a question), when the proper concept is gained, there may be found that which is as applicable to the gaseous forces that constitute the Sun as to that which constitutes the single cell in the great bodies of water upon the earth, or to that which constitutes the formation of that which becomes organic matter in stagnant water and becomes pests to the human family. When we are dealing with Spirit, Spiritism, Spiritualism, we must deal with same from the first principles. Hence we begin with that as the first question. When that is answered, WE will give you the next question to ask. The forces gathered here may be used in gaining this concept. As ye seek, ask first if all these are present: Lamech, Confucius, Tamah, Halaliel, Hebe, Ra, Ra-Ta, John. We are through. [EC said on waking, `Did we get anything?`]

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If the `forces` Lamech, Confucius, Tamah, Halaliel, Hebe, Ra, Ra-Ta, John are present, we seek the answer to the following question, as given: How did the influence known as Spirit move upon the various matters that came into existence? And how did the influence manifest itself upon the beings that separated into the varied kingdoms that inhabit such as the earth? You will please also give the next question.

Yes. That there may be as little confusion as possible in the minds of those present, as to the source of that which may be given through the answering of the question that has been proposed, let each present accept THIS as a fact for the present, and as each period is given for the development of force and power in and through the spiritual guidance each individual present may fit in his own concept of how, why, when there was a change in the spiritual (or spirit) influence in the earth; for this, with its environs, is that sphere that we are to deal with: The individuals named were known as individuals and personalities in the earth's sphere, and had (and have) an influence upon the thoughts of man; hence they (the influence they represent) are capable of guiding the information in such a manner as may be comprehendable to those that would seek to know the truth; that may be presented, and that may be demonstrable (that's a very good word!) in individual lives. Hence we each may be assured, by the presence of the beloved disciple, that our own Christian concept will have its place throughout the discussion. The question: How did spirit move upon matter as to bring into existence that which POSSESSES a body and a spirit? This we see in the elementals, as we consider matter in its gaseous form with all the powers of the divisions to which it (the gas) is subject under the varied conditions that may exist. For, the matter (in its elemental form) was moved upon by the Spirit of God and became that which partook (and partakes) of all force and influence in the sphere of activity to which IT (the element) had been (and has been) delegated by the Infinite Spirit that possesses all those forces or influences that may be seen in all realms of activity, from the lowest unto infinitum. Hence we see all become impregnated with the spirit of the Creator; hence are of the one source or power. Why, then, did there come that which is known in the earth as a three-dimensional phase of existence with a five-consciousness of its existence? that there in spirit possesses body, form and activity, in spirit, and moving upon the activity of self brings into being that which was to be the companionship with that spirit? For, all laws (loves) that are applicable in a material world must find their inception, their beginning, in the source of the BEGINNINGS of activity in a given sphere. Among those spirits that include all that ever was, that ever will be, were those that in spirit rebelled against that law of love; hence turned in self upon self, hence separating self from that first companionship. Hence that all in this form might return, or that there might not be continual warfare in this realm of peace, happiness, glory (Words are inadequate to describe the presence of the Most High. For as given, the most glorious in the finite mind is but a SHADOW; and it doth not appear as to what manner or form or bodies with which we do appear before, or in the presence of, His glory sublime - divine), but in order that there might be the return of every soul bearing the imprint of his image in Spirit (and body), there came first those in the earth as thought forms that were able to partake of that about them; and so absorb them, much as we see in the lower forms of material manifestations in life, and MOVED by the spirit to become that they found or absorbed in their being. Hence we see how that the entering of the spirit into matter in the earth was both good and bad. And we find that, as given in the records, each soul became conscious of a relationship to an outside influence or spirit as it, individually, personally, applied those influences in the activities that were about it. How could there become, then, other than sun worshippers? But rather some became worshippers of that the sun produced, rather than of that which produced the sun: There's a difference! THAT'S the difference between Spiritualism and Spiritism; Spirit-u-u-u-al-ism, and Spiritism. Spiritism, then, is that which acknowledges, that acts, that comprehends, the source of the activity. Spiritualism is that which comprehends rather only the result, than the source. 11. The forces of spirit activity, then, become all those that are recognized as the elemental laws, or what? First, self-perpetuation or preservation; perpetuation through the second law of its creation, through its elements that partake of the life spirit that creates or forms the body itself. Hence we have the first three laws in the activity of spirit in matter in the earth: Preservation of self; perseverance in perpetuation of self, by impregnation of matter to become a reproduction of itself; and - the like begets like! We are through for the present. [EC said on waking that he would like to always feel surrounded by as helpful influences as he did this time.]

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If the `forces` of Lamech, Confucius, Tamar, Halaliel, Hebe, Ra, Ra-Ta, John are present, we seek a continuation of the answer to the question as given, How did the influence known as Spirit move upon the various matters that came into existence; and, how did the influence manifest itself upon the beings that separated into the varied kingdoms that inhabit such as the earth?

(After suggestion had been repeated three times, he said `Stop!` at end of first question. GC had her hand on his eyes at the time and jumped at this.) All the influence and force are not combined in one in the present. Ye must tarry longer. Not in the present, but we would give that which surrounds the source, place, force, that is seen here. For, the walls are jasper, the ceilings are beryl, the doors are beryl, the floors are pure gold, the light is the Lamb. The shape is not square, not perpendicular - walls. Much is here that may be given to those that seek to know the mysteries of those influences that go to make up that which impels man in his activity in the earth. Mental man, spirit man, is the sum of that he does in the light of the Lamb. That - We are through. We must turn back. We MUST! We have a duty to perform for those - [faded into silence]. [See 5756-1, Par. R1.]

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Give suggestions.

[After GC had given the suggestion for waking him.] There are some here that would speak with those that are present, if they desire to so communicate with them.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [After GC had given the suggestion for waking him.] There are some here that would speak with those that are present, if they desire to so communicate with them.

I don't hear. May I have the message?

Sure, she hears you; don't you hear her talking? No, I don't know what she says.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [After GC had given the suggestion for waking him.] There are some here that would speak with those that are present, if they desire to so communicate with them. (Q): I don't hear. May I have the message? (A): Sure, she hears you; don't you hear her talking? No, I don't know what she says.

I don't hear. Will you repeat the message for me?

Mama and Dr. House and Uncle Porter and the baby - we are all here. Grandpa has built the home here, and it's NICE! And we are all waiting until you come, and we will all be here ready - we are getting along FINE, doing WELL, yes! No. No more troubles now, for spring borders [?] all along the way; for we have reached together where we see the light and know the pathway to the Savior is along the narrow way that leads to HIS throne. We are on that plane where you have heard it spoken of that the body, the mind, are one with those things we have builded. Yes, I still play baseball, and Charlie has recently joined my club and I am still Captain to many of 'em. Well, we will be waiting for you!

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