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(Q): What would be the cost of this operation? (A): Handled correctly, may be done for twenty-seven hundred dollars ($2700) - twenty-seven hundred and seventy-seven dollars ($2777). That is all the questions on this reading. There are many other conditions as respecting oil operations in this vicinity, for information may be obtained or given as regarding same. Never handle it under these same operators, though, if we would receive production here! We are through for the present.

Will there be any difficulty encountered in drawing casing to this depth?

No difficulty, will the hole first be plugged, see? Don't draw all the way out - just draw to this depth, then swab.

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(Q): What would be the cost of this operation? (A): Handled correctly, may be done for twenty-seven hundred dollars ($2700) - twenty-seven hundred and seventy-seven dollars ($2777). That is all the questions on this reading. There are many other conditions as respecting oil operations in this vicinity, for information may be obtained or given as regarding same. Never handle it under these same operators, though, if we would receive production here! We are through for the present. (Q): Will there be any difficulty encountered in drawing casing to this depth? (A): No difficulty, will the hole first be plugged, see? Don't draw all the way out - just draw to this depth, then swab.

Would it be advisable to shoot the well?

Swab rather than shoot. Not this formation for shots - no! Swab is producing suction, see? and suction is necessary to draw this through this stratum - for this, as has been given, while commencing slow, would increase to nearly three thousand (3000) barrels, see?

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(Q): What would be the cost of this operation? (A): Handled correctly, may be done for twenty-seven hundred dollars ($2700) - twenty-seven hundred and seventy-seven dollars ($2777). That is all the questions on this reading. There are many other conditions as respecting oil operations in this vicinity, for information may be obtained or given as regarding same. Never handle it under these same operators, though, if we would receive production here! We are through for the present. (Q): Will there be any difficulty encountered in drawing casing to this depth? (A): No difficulty, will the hole first be plugged, see? Don't draw all the way out - just draw to this depth, then swab. (Q): Would it be advisable to shoot the well? (A): Swab rather than shoot. Not this formation for shots - no! Swab is producing suction, see? and suction is necessary to draw this through this stratum - for this, as has been given, while commencing slow, would increase to nearly three thousand (3000) barrels, see?

You will have before you the oil well being drilled by Neil Scroggins, under contract with the Miami Oil & Gas Company, on Section 19, Range 35, Township 54, Dade County, Florida, and you will tell us the method of procedure to drill to a depth of four thousand feet, and what will be found to this depth, and you will state what condition the present hole is in, and whether oil can be produced when water flow is exhausted. You will answer any questions I will ask you regarding this.

Yes, we have the well, the operations, here. This we have had before. As has been given, the better field or stratum for production has been passed. Were the casing raised to the eighteen seventy-five (1875) depth, after the hole or water has been cut off - then the hole swabbed from that depth production would be brought here, see? Not in the quantity that might be gained in other locations farther to the south and west, but this would prove the better way to handle this particular operation - rather than drilling to the four thousand (4000) foot level, for we will then only encounter the hard formation, in which there will not be found production. The intake of the water in the present conditions is such that the water flow has driven the oil farther away than when we had same before, and conditions such as has been given as warning for operations in fields of this nature or character have happened to some extent. In preparing same for cutting off the water, the better way would be by first sinking many sacks of dry bran, then wooden plugs, then the shrapnel or scraps, and the heavy plugs - then draw casing (when this is cut off, see, so the flow is stopped) to the eighteen seventy-five (1875), or seventy-four (74) be preferable - then swab - swab - until we will find we will draw oil and gas through this hole. That's the way this should be handled. Hasn't been handled very good so far. A great many of the conditions have been mismanaged, as to the correct way of reaching production, see?

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A. C. Yarmer?

A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present.

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present.

Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins?

No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see?

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see?

D-u-v-a-l?

Duval.

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval.

Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located?

We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer -

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer -

Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company?

None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see?

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see?

How is this spelled?

Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here.

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here.

How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank?

Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it.

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it.

Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins?

None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see?

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it. (Q): Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins? (A): None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see?

Were any payments made Scroggins by Duval?

No payments, other than promises and keeping in touch with the individual, and handling much of the operations through suggestions - though keeping well in line, so that it would be hard to pin - by actual proof - the conditions, existent, see?

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it. (Q): Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins? (A): None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see? (Q): Were any payments made Scroggins by Duval? (A): No payments, other than promises and keeping in touch with the individual, and handling much of the operations through suggestions - though keeping well in line, so that it would be hard to pin - by actual proof - the conditions, existent, see?

What are the amounts he owes on the rig?

Some eight to nine hundred dollars. Some fourteen hundred it has been. Part of this has been satisfied through others, see?

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it. (Q): Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins? (A): None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see? (Q): Were any payments made Scroggins by Duval? (A): No payments, other than promises and keeping in touch with the individual, and handling much of the operations through suggestions - though keeping well in line, so that it would be hard to pin - by actual proof - the conditions, existent, see? (Q): What are the amounts he owes on the rig? (A): Some eight to nine hundred dollars. Some fourteen hundred it has been. Part of this has been satisfied through others, see?

What is the full name of Duval, and with whom is he connected?

Connected with these larger operators. Full name, A. F.

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it. (Q): Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins? (A): None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see? (Q): Were any payments made Scroggins by Duval? (A): No payments, other than promises and keeping in touch with the individual, and handling much of the operations through suggestions - though keeping well in line, so that it would be hard to pin - by actual proof - the conditions, existent, see? (Q): What are the amounts he owes on the rig? (A): Some eight to nine hundred dollars. Some fourteen hundred it has been. Part of this has been satisfied through others, see? (Q): What is the full name of Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Connected with these larger operators. Full name, A. F.

What is the name of the company he owes this to?

Supply companies. Wells Supply Companies.

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it. (Q): Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins? (A): None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see? (Q): Were any payments made Scroggins by Duval? (A): No payments, other than promises and keeping in touch with the individual, and handling much of the operations through suggestions - though keeping well in line, so that it would be hard to pin - by actual proof - the conditions, existent, see? (Q): What are the amounts he owes on the rig? (A): Some eight to nine hundred dollars. Some fourteen hundred it has been. Part of this has been satisfied through others, see? (Q): What is the full name of Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Connected with these larger operators. Full name, A. F. (Q): What is the name of the company he owes this to? (A): Supply companies. Wells Supply Companies.

What promises did he make Scroggins?

For interests, and for the prospect of more operations in the future developments, see?

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it. (Q): Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins? (A): None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see? (Q): Were any payments made Scroggins by Duval? (A): No payments, other than promises and keeping in touch with the individual, and handling much of the operations through suggestions - though keeping well in line, so that it would be hard to pin - by actual proof - the conditions, existent, see? (Q): What are the amounts he owes on the rig? (A): Some eight to nine hundred dollars. Some fourteen hundred it has been. Part of this has been satisfied through others, see? (Q): What is the full name of Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Connected with these larger operators. Full name, A. F. (Q): What is the name of the company he owes this to? (A): Supply companies. Wells Supply Companies. (Q): What promises did he make Scroggins? (A): For interests, and for the prospect of more operations in the future developments, see?

What promises have been made to Scroggins, and by whom?

By those who are interested in the production of oil in Florida - that is, those who are in the field for the future operations of this section. As is seen in Duval, who makes the actual promise for larger concerns that have drilled in Tampico and in the Texas coastal fields. These operators own vast territory higher up and to the west, in the state, see?

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it. (Q): Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins? (A): None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see? (Q): Were any payments made Scroggins by Duval? (A): No payments, other than promises and keeping in touch with the individual, and handling much of the operations through suggestions - though keeping well in line, so that it would be hard to pin - by actual proof - the conditions, existent, see? (Q): What are the amounts he owes on the rig? (A): Some eight to nine hundred dollars. Some fourteen hundred it has been. Part of this has been satisfied through others, see? (Q): What is the full name of Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Connected with these larger operators. Full name, A. F. (Q): What is the name of the company he owes this to? (A): Supply companies. Wells Supply Companies. (Q): What promises did he make Scroggins? (A): For interests, and for the prospect of more operations in the future developments, see? (Q): What promises have been made to Scroggins, and by whom? (A): By those who are interested in the production of oil in Florida - that is, those who are in the field for the future operations of this section. As is seen in Duval, who makes the actual promise for larger concerns that have drilled in Tampico and in the Texas coastal fields. These operators own vast territory higher up and to the west, in the state, see?

With whom has Scroggins placed these funds temporarily?

Yarmers - we get A. C. - A. C. Yarmer.

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(Q): A. C. Yarmer? (A): A. C. Yarmer - we get this here, yes. We are through for the present. (Q): Does the president of the Miami Oil & Gas Company know of Duval's promises to Scroggins? (A): No. No, these are of a different nature. See, Scroggins is playing both - one end against the other, and at the same time there has been, as given, an over expenditure of funds, see? (Q): D-u-v-a-l? (A): Duval. (Q): Give full name of Yarmer, and where is he located? (A): We only get it Yarmer - Yarmer - (Q): Have any promises been made Scroggins by the officials of the Miami Oil & Gas Company? (A): None other than by verbal promise of the Scroggins' interests being taken care of with the general development, see? (Q): How is this spelled? (A): Y-a-r-m-e-r - we get it here. (Murmurings in undertone) We don't get that here. (Q): How much funds has Scroggins now, and in what bank? (A): Very little of his own. All of those have been placed where these may not be reached, you see. Yarmer - Yarmer - has something to do with it. (Q): Is there any lien put on the present rig by Scroggins? (A): None other than that as is of the legal nature from the purchasers from whom Scroggins purchased much of the material. These are not in the shape of liens, as yet, see? (Q): Were any payments made Scroggins by Duval? (A): No payments, other than promises and keeping in touch with the individual, and handling much of the operations through suggestions - though keeping well in line, so that it would be hard to pin - by actual proof - the conditions, existent, see? (Q): What are the amounts he owes on the rig? (A): Some eight to nine hundred dollars. Some fourteen hundred it has been. Part of this has been satisfied through others, see? (Q): What is the full name of Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Connected with these larger operators. Full name, A. F. (Q): What is the name of the company he owes this to? (A): Supply companies. Wells Supply Companies. (Q): What promises did he make Scroggins? (A): For interests, and for the prospect of more operations in the future developments, see? (Q): What promises have been made to Scroggins, and by whom? (A): By those who are interested in the production of oil in Florida - that is, those who are in the field for the future operations of this section. As is seen in Duval, who makes the actual promise for larger concerns that have drilled in Tampico and in the Texas coastal fields. These operators own vast territory higher up and to the west, in the state, see? (Q): With whom has Scroggins placed these funds temporarily? (A): Yarmers - we get A. C. - A. C. Yarmer.

You will have before you the well being drilled on Section 19, Township 54, Range 35, Dade County, Florida, and the contractor Neil Scroggins. You will outline to us how this has been handled so far, in a financial and operative way, both from the company's standpoint and the contractor's standpoint, giving the status of the conditions at the present time. You will answer the questions which I will ask you regarding this.

Yes, we have the operations and those conditions surrounding same, as respecting the contractor and those who are interested in same. The well, and the conditions in part, we have had here before. As for the operation as concerning production, this has been handled, as given, very poorly - for there are many conditions that might be given have entered into the operations as regarding the contractor. As seen, there are statements regarding the expenditures that have been stretched considerably. While it is true much money has been spent in operations, yet not in the way and manner as conducive to giving the full amount of the hole made, nor of the correct manner of handling the hole for the production of the oil that might be obtained even in this location. In conditions at present, we find that the contractor is indebted to individuals for tools, materials, and labor. Some of these are legitimate; others are stretched considerably and out of proportions - for we find the contractor in the pay of more than those to whom the contracted work is made - to those indirectly, and might not be classed by some as being an illegitimate condition; yet would such operator or operations be successful, these should be conducted along more legitimate lines. That is, for information that may enable others to know by the actual conditions encountered in operations, there have been promises made to Scroggins that would be more valuable than the money paid, even - and, as is seen with legitimate operations, at least half the money expended has been for conditions that might be removed by Scroggins when operations are at an end. We would fasten these there! Ready for questions.

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Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid?

As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions.

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions.

Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected?

Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs -

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs -

Give Yarmer's present Post Office address.

Tampa, Florida - hotel -

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel -

Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract?

More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see?

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see?

Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank?

In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it.

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it.

Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well?

There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see?

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see?

Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well?

Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see?

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see?

Has he made a report that he found indications of oil?

The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See?

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See?

Has he made such a report to others?

To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to.

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to.

Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole?

Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas.

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas.

Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source?

Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see?

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see?

How may this report be obtained?

This was verbal. Just try and obtain it!

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it!

How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well?

About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000).

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000).

Should this check be made by expert accountant?

By expert accountant.

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000). (Q): Should this check be made by expert accountant? (A): By expert accountant.

Should this matter be taken up at the meeting this afternoon? of the directors?

Ordering that such check be made, be taken up - but don't move too fast, see? Can easily stumble over conditions that, if followed out easily, would prove more effectual - in saving monies, and in making the monies for stockholders.

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000). (Q): Should this check be made by expert accountant? (A): By expert accountant. (Q): Should this matter be taken up at the meeting this afternoon? of the directors? (A): Ordering that such check be made, be taken up - but don't move too fast, see? Can easily stumble over conditions that, if followed out easily, would prove more effectual - in saving monies, and in making the monies for stockholders.

This includes monies spent in preparation in actual drilling and in hurricane repairs on the rig?

All on hurricane repairs has not been paid yet, and this includes monies as have been used in same, see?

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000). (Q): Should this check be made by expert accountant? (A): By expert accountant. (Q): Should this matter be taken up at the meeting this afternoon? of the directors? (A): Ordering that such check be made, be taken up - but don't move too fast, see? Can easily stumble over conditions that, if followed out easily, would prove more effectual - in saving monies, and in making the monies for stockholders. (Q): This includes monies spent in preparation in actual drilling and in hurricane repairs on the rig? (A): All on hurricane repairs has not been paid yet, and this includes monies as have been used in same, see?

We especially want to know what he spent in the way of repairs on his rig after the hurricane.

About twenty-one hundred dollars ($2,100).

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000). (Q): Should this check be made by expert accountant? (A): By expert accountant. (Q): Should this matter be taken up at the meeting this afternoon? of the directors? (A): Ordering that such check be made, be taken up - but don't move too fast, see? Can easily stumble over conditions that, if followed out easily, would prove more effectual - in saving monies, and in making the monies for stockholders. (Q): This includes monies spent in preparation in actual drilling and in hurricane repairs on the rig? (A): All on hurricane repairs has not been paid yet, and this includes monies as have been used in same, see? (Q): We especially want to know what he spent in the way of repairs on his rig after the hurricane. (A): About twenty-one hundred dollars ($2,100).

What hotel is Yarmer stopping at in Tampa?

Tampa Hotel - Tampa -

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000). (Q): Should this check be made by expert accountant? (A): By expert accountant. (Q): Should this matter be taken up at the meeting this afternoon? of the directors? (A): Ordering that such check be made, be taken up - but don't move too fast, see? Can easily stumble over conditions that, if followed out easily, would prove more effectual - in saving monies, and in making the monies for stockholders. (Q): This includes monies spent in preparation in actual drilling and in hurricane repairs on the rig? (A): All on hurricane repairs has not been paid yet, and this includes monies as have been used in same, see? (Q): We especially want to know what he spent in the way of repairs on his rig after the hurricane. (A): About twenty-one hundred dollars ($2,100). (Q): What hotel is Yarmer stopping at in Tampa? (A): Tampa Hotel - Tampa -

What is the full name of the company he is connected with?

Don't get that here. We get this here - There's a combination here with these - Gherett is as the scout, too, which is with Potter - Potter - Potter - Gherett - Smith - Smith - Duval - Don't get those straight there!

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000). (Q): Should this check be made by expert accountant? (A): By expert accountant. (Q): Should this matter be taken up at the meeting this afternoon? of the directors? (A): Ordering that such check be made, be taken up - but don't move too fast, see? Can easily stumble over conditions that, if followed out easily, would prove more effectual - in saving monies, and in making the monies for stockholders. (Q): This includes monies spent in preparation in actual drilling and in hurricane repairs on the rig? (A): All on hurricane repairs has not been paid yet, and this includes monies as have been used in same, see? (Q): We especially want to know what he spent in the way of repairs on his rig after the hurricane. (A): About twenty-one hundred dollars ($2,100). (Q): What hotel is Yarmer stopping at in Tampa? (A): Tampa Hotel - Tampa - (Q): What is the full name of the company he is connected with? (A): Don't get that here. We get this here - There's a combination here with these - Gherett is as the scout, too, which is with Potter - Potter - Potter - Gherett - Smith - Smith - Duval - Don't get those straight there!

What is the full name of this company?

Indian, or Independent Oil Company.

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000). (Q): Should this check be made by expert accountant? (A): By expert accountant. (Q): Should this matter be taken up at the meeting this afternoon? of the directors? (A): Ordering that such check be made, be taken up - but don't move too fast, see? Can easily stumble over conditions that, if followed out easily, would prove more effectual - in saving monies, and in making the monies for stockholders. (Q): This includes monies spent in preparation in actual drilling and in hurricane repairs on the rig? (A): All on hurricane repairs has not been paid yet, and this includes monies as have been used in same, see? (Q): We especially want to know what he spent in the way of repairs on his rig after the hurricane. (A): About twenty-one hundred dollars ($2,100). (Q): What hotel is Yarmer stopping at in Tampa? (A): Tampa Hotel - Tampa - (Q): What is the full name of the company he is connected with? (A): Don't get that here. We get this here - There's a combination here with these - Gherett is as the scout, too, which is with Potter - Potter - Potter - Gherett - Smith - Smith - Duval - Don't get those straight there! (Q): What is the full name of this company? (A): Indian, or Independent Oil Company.

What is the name of the company he is employed by?

Indian.

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(Q): Did he incur any indebtedness for such repairs which have not been paid? (A): As given, there will be found - These all need to be checked, see? and these MAY BE checked by the reports as have been given. Follow these closely. There will be many things that will be uncovered in these conditions. (Q): Give present address of A. F. Duval, and with whom is he connected? (A): Gherrett [Jerrett?] - The present address - Duval - the springs - springs - White Sulphur - White Springs - (Q): Give Yarmer's present Post Office address. (A): Tampa, Florida - hotel - (Q): Has he deposited any of the money received under his contract? (A): More has been spent outside, rather than being saved or contracted for, see? That is, he hasn't SAVED much money out of it, see? (Q): Has he deposited any outside of the city of Miami? If so, in what city and in what bank? (A): In Del Soto (?) as we get here. Now this is Neil Scroggins' business. These are open to be found. Find these from here, see? He isn't straight - we have given that much. Those dealing with same should find it. (Q): Has he had any conversation with Neil Scroggins regarding oil production in this well? (A): There has been much conversation with associates, and with the individual, as regarding production in this well and the findings in the various formations; for THIS is, as has been give, that of which Scroggins is the more guilty, in not keeping faith with those for whom the contract is made, see? (Q): Has he had anything to do with any of the funds that are supposed to have been used in drilling this well? (A): Only that as is to be given and divided by these individuals for information, and for that that may be acquired later in operations in this and other fields, see? (Q): Has he made a report that he found indications of oil? (A): The operations of how there are those in the other fields that are seeking acreage - OBTAINING acreage - should be sufficient evidence that such has been reported - for we do not find that - with the adverse conditions as stand apparent from the operations - this has decreased any the enthusiasm of those who are, little by little, obtaining more and more acreage for the prospective operations. See? (Q): Has he made such a report to others? (A): To those as given he has given a more detailed report of the findings, than to those the contract is made to. (Q): Has Neil Scroggins made an agreement with anybody to keep it a secret if he discovers oil in this hole? (A): Has made agreement with several, as is seen, that when the conditions show oil will be found, that it would be reported to others before it would to Miami Oil & Gas. (Q): Has Scroggins received any monies for any information regarding the well from any source? (A): Not monies. Rather promises, and monies indirectly, to be used for other things, see? (Q): How may this report be obtained? (A): This was verbal. Just try and obtain it! (Q): How much money has Neil Scroggins actually spent on drilling the well? (A): About twenty-eight thousand dollars ($28,000). (Q): Should this check be made by expert accountant? (A): By expert accountant. (Q): Should this matter be taken up at the meeting this afternoon? of the directors? (A): Ordering that such check be made, be taken up - but don't move too fast, see? Can easily stumble over conditions that, if followed out easily, would prove more effectual - in saving monies, and in making the monies for stockholders. (Q): This includes monies spent in preparation in actual drilling and in hurricane repairs on the rig? (A): All on hurricane repairs has not been paid yet, and this includes monies as have been used in same, see? (Q): We especially want to know what he spent in the way of repairs on his rig after the hurricane. (A): About twenty-one hundred dollars ($2,100). (Q): What hotel is Yarmer stopping at in Tampa? (A): Tampa Hotel - Tampa - (Q): What is the full name of the company he is connected with? (A): Don't get that here. We get this here - There's a combination here with these - Gherett is as the scout, too, which is with Potter - Potter - Potter - Gherett - Smith - Smith - Duval - Don't get those straight there! (Q): What is the full name of this company? (A): Indian, or Independent Oil Company. (Q): What is the name of the company he is employed by? (A): Indian.

What state?

White Springs in Florida!

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What steps should the directors take to set these aright?

The check and re-checking of the affairs of the company, and by the accounting from Scroggins of money spent, with the items showing to whom, and where. Then re-check from their source, as seen, see? for, as we find, where there are favors granted through various ones - that bills as are seen by repairs, and also by materials in the first operations - these are exorbitant! and when gone to the sources, some will show a great deal of difference in the real, and that as will be placed first in hand. Then follow these rather close. Not with clanking of cymbals when it's being done! but rather as using good judgement. Knowing you are dealing with one of this nature - being forewarned - be forearmed. And as soon as possible get rid of this operator! if we would get oil in this hole - for it may be produced there, see?

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Who are the ones obtaining these leases?

They grade all along from the various larger oil concerns, and it would be hard to ferret out as to just which one. Find as to how the leases have been recorded, or the landowners have promised, and this may be found by a good scout, see? We are through for the present.

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(Q): Who are the ones obtaining these leases? (A): They grade all along from the various larger oil concerns, and it would be hard to ferret out as to just which one. Find as to how the leases have been recorded, or the landowners have promised, and this may be found by a good scout, see? We are through for the present.

Who is A. C. Yarmer, and what is his business?

Business - A. C. Yarmer - as scout for the companies that are operating in the western coast here and further up the coast.

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(Q): Who are the ones obtaining these leases? (A): They grade all along from the various larger oil concerns, and it would be hard to ferret out as to just which one. Find as to how the leases have been recorded, or the landowners have promised, and this may be found by a good scout, see? We are through for the present. (Q): Who is A. C. Yarmer, and what is his business? (A): Business - A. C. Yarmer - as scout for the companies that are operating in the western coast here and further up the coast.

You will have before you the well being drilled on Section 19, Township 54, Range 35, Dade County, Florida, and the contractor Neil Scroggins. You will tell us what has been done with the monies received by Scroggins under his drilling contract. You will answer any other questions I will ask you regarding this.

Yes, we have the operation here, and Neil Scroggins contractor. These we have had before. As has been given, monies as paid has been used in paying those whom the Scroggins indebted to for tools, and portions have been used in other channels, and a portion used in those of acreage in other portions of district; for it would be found that, with associates, the Scroggins owns other leases, see? living, operations, and other considerations. Detailed operations would give many various conditions. These as the general.

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You will have before you the following Sections, Township, and Range, in Florida. You will tell us if oil will be located on any of these, and if so give the location on one of these as the best for the production of oil. If not, tell us where would be the place to locate for the production of oil. You will have Sections 19, 30, 31, 6, 7, 9, and 4, in Range 34 South, and Township 54 East. Also Sections 18, 19, 30, 32, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, in Range 34 South, Township 55 East. Also Sections 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1, in Range 34 South, Township 56 East. Also East half Sections 24, 25, and 36, in Range 33 South, Township 54 East. Also East one-half Section of 1, 12, 13, 24, 25, and 36, in Range 33 South, Township 55 East.

Yes, we have township, range, and section, as are given here. Rather, for the location and for the obtaining of production, would we give that as radiating from this as the center; for, as has been given, the larger pool in this portion of the country will be located in that formation where trap has held the oil, and the shape of this is almost the shape of a horseshoe, or following the general contour of this peninsular, extending farther up the west coast of the peninsular, and in the turn rather of same higher up the state. The range of the pool will be found to be some seven to ten (7 to 10) miles across in the end farthest south, and extending toward the east to some edge of the middle sectors of Dade County, tending toward the west, across the edge of Dade and up through adjoining counties to the upper portion of that as located. This, then, being near the center, and radiating some seven (7) miles, either way, turning toward the north and east on the east side, and toward the north and west from the west side. The specific location being on the upper or northern side of the anticline formed, and on edge of pool; being sufficiently over pool, however, to gain the better access to same - but in the southwest quarter of the northwest quarter of Section 19, Township 52 South, Range 35 East. See? Here we would find this: For the first ninety (90) feet principally muck, and gradually changing to the formations of the animal turned in stone. Then some formation of the delta nature, turning to the gray-blue shale in the two hundred to two hundred fifty (200 to 250) feet, and necessary drilling with that of the rotary rigs, and continuing much with this, with slight changes, to that depth of about fourteen seventy-five (1475). Then the hard lime, encountering many showings of oil, reaching large production in eighteen seventy-five to thirty-two hundred (1875 to 3200) feet. This varying according to the locations in the various positions along this anticlinal line, extending in this shape. In the specific location, large production in eighteen seventy-five to twenty-two hundred (1875 to 2200) being a deep heavy sand; not the highest grade of oil, but an extra gas grade, see? We are through with this reading.

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You will have before you the well that has been drilled on Section 19, Township 54, Range 35, Dade County, Florida, and you will please advise us if it is possible to plug this well and follow instructions as given sometime ago. Give information in detail as to what is necessary to do to obtain results.

This we have had here before. Now, we find operations thus far have proved as has been given regarding the obtaining of production - the production, as given, in small quantities - yet paying quantities - would and could be obtained from these operations, were instructions as have been given - as MAY be given - followed closely; yet we find there are those circumstances, those conditions surrounding the operations that would even make THIS hard to be carried out in a proper way and manner - for we find there have arisen many of those conditions that bring contrary-wise activity by individuals, and the desire to destroy rather than that someone else might obtain any benefit from any operations. These, however, would be the ways and manners to obtain production here: First there will be found the necessity to raise casing to at least twenty-two hundred (2200) feet, see? This the depth from the top. Plug hole below this, see? Then raise casing again, after hole is plugged, to seventeen ninety-nine (1799), see? Then REAM from this to the twenty-two twenty-five (2225) feet. Here we will find production will be encountered, where showings were seen, from eighteen seventy-five to twenty-two twenty-five (1875 to 2225), this giving sufficient of the stratum in which the production will be obtained. Necessary - if water gives obstruction or trouble here - that packers be used on casings when suction or pumps are used to start the flow. Do that, for the production to be obtained - yet be careful of the information as is given, for there are those that would hinder such operations being carried out. We are through for the present.

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Give suggestions.

In the operations on the renewed activities in the Tamiami, we find that - were these carried to the thirty-eight hundred (3800) foot depth - we would encounter the hundred (100) foot sand that would be producing; and be, while of not as high grade oil as some other sectors, yet a very valuable one.

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You will have before you the well that has been drilled on Section 19, Township 54, Range 35, Dade County, Florida. You will please advise as to the conditions here at the present time, giving conditions necessary to make this a successful and producing well.

Yes, we have the operations here. These we have had before. Now we find these operations have reached that which has been given as the indication of conditions existent in this field. Also those existent conditions of which ones operating should be warned and careful of, in that these conditions are not allowed to destroy - in part or in toto - the productiveness of the field, by inroads of salt water. That condition for the packing, or casing off of same, will be correct - but must be done properly. In and near the depth as given will be found the large production as has been given for these fields. While, as given, this is not exactly in the location as has been made in the stratum and depth given the same pool would be encountered - see? while the exact, or change as was given, would be nearer the center or crescent portion of pool. There needs be only the care taken, and the depth drilled to that as encountered in the present is the seepage from those depths as were given would be the depth for production in other locations. Keep the way, then, as has been given before the operations, would these be made successful. [See 4203-4 volunteered at end of above reading, re. Louisiana oil fields.]

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You will have before you Range 35 and 36, Township 48 to 58 inclusive, in Florida. You will tell us which townships would be the better for production of oil or gas.

Yes, we have these lands in Range 35 and 36, in Florida. These we have had before. In this district, we would find there would be a portion of several townships that would be well for the production of oil and gas; while a portion of such townships would be unproductive. Those that would be the better for production would be in these ranges: 49, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56. These would be the better; while specific locations would be necessary in many of these. We are through.

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What will be the depth of the greater production?

As given. See, this covers an area of nearly fifty square miles, see? and the variations in the depth, being that as of the specific location, varying, as has been given, from the ninety to a hundred and twenty-five (90 to 125) feet, or for the first production of the smaller quantities, see? To the next being in the six twenty - six thirty-six to nine hundred (620 - 636 to 900). The next twelve to twelve fifty (1200 to 1250), see? These not in the same location, though in some locations oil in all three stratas may be located. We are through with this.

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(Q): What will be the depth of the greater production? (A): As given. See, this covers an area of nearly fifty square miles, see? and the variations in the depth, being that as of the specific location, varying, as has been given, from the ninety to a hundred and twenty-five (90 to 125) feet, or for the first production of the smaller quantities, see? To the next being in the six twenty - six thirty-six to nine hundred (620 - 636 to 900). The next twelve to twelve fifty (1200 to 1250), see? These not in the same location, though in some locations oil in all three stratas may be located. We are through with this.

You will have before you Lee County, Florida, and you will tell us if there are any prospects for production of oil in this County. If so, you will give us Section, Township, and Range, of the best location for drilling for oil, giving the log of the well, and the depth at which production may be found, and the quantity of oil produced. You will answer any questions I might ask you regarding this.

Yes, we have the county. This we see we have had portions of before [[5741] series?]. As to those specific locations, these may be only given in the general manner as relating to the County. In this district that is underlaid with oil and minerals in Lee County, we find the district begins at a point near half way between the central eastern line - see, the center of the eastern line, and the lower line, half way between this, almost exact, begins the stratum and the fold under which the deposits of oil may be found. These extend for nearly thirty miles in a westerly by south directions, see? west by south direction from this eastern line to that point where the shed begins, as for the water shed, that divides this portion of the country, extending then in a south westerly direction - more direct, see? south westerly direction to the edge of that portion where the inlets and the waters from the Gulf intercept the course. In this district, in most ANY of this, would there be oil found in some greater or in some lesser quantities, ranging from three to fifteen hundred (300 to 1500) barrels of production, dependent upon the location and the manner in which such operations would be handled. This, as is seen, is of the more shallow depth than that in the eastern and southeastern direction from this County. This lying near the one twenty-five to twelve fifty (125 to 1250) feet, see? This, then, would be a very good field for production, for the grade also some better, yet the quantities in the field would not be near the amounts as that as will be located in the bend, or in the Dade County fields, see? The formation here encountered would be muck, shale, and then the heavy lime, at the ninety to a hundred and twenty-five (90 to 125) feet be producing oil in small quantities, ranging in this stratum from three to fifty, to a hundred (3 to 50, to a 100) barrels, in that from the nine sixty to twelve hundred (960 to 1200), being in the greater quantity from the three hundred to five hundred, to fifteen hundred (300 to 500, to 1500) in the various formations and parts of the field, see? In the greater depths we will find heavy lime overlying the oil, see? with not much difference in the formations, other than heavier quantities of each, for this portion of the field, this shed, as is seen, under which this stratum would be found, is as an escarpment of the reef through which the oil has seeped or migrated to this upper strata, produced by the falling away and sinking of those stratas that lie to the east and north of this County, see?

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Give suggestions.

`We don't find the body here.` [See 5744-1, Reports.]

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You will have before you the situation which has arisen with the request of Murray Levine of 11 Slocum St., New Rochelle, N.Y., as presented through David E. Kahn and Hugh Lynn Cayce, for information through this channel Edgar Cayce regarding his son Peter David Levine, who was last seen leaving the Albert Leonard Junior High School, New Rochelle, N.Y., about 3:30 P.M., on February 24, 1938. You will tell us at this time if information of a helpful nature may be given through this channel and if so, just what approach should be made in subsequent readings to obtain the best possible results. If information of this kind will in any way be detrimental to this channel Edgar Cayce, you will tell us, and explain. You will answer the questions which will be asked:

In considering such conditions, as has been indicated, there should be considered all phases and the purposes of the Work - and that to which it has been given and in Whom it is entrusted, as well as the experiences in the attempts to follow such characters of information and the physical results that have been the experience of the body Edgar Cayce. These should be studied by those who are so sympathetically interested and are truly desirous of bringing help and comfort to a distraught parent; owing to the circumstances and the dead ends apparently that have been the attempts to communicate or to gain a knowledge of the son. But consider also those experiences of the entity through whom ye seek such information. Not that information may not be given. As to whether it would be helpful or distracting or greater disturbing would still remain a question. Again, consider the experiences in the past. What is that thin veil between the sublime and the ridiculous? What have been the experiences concerning those things that have become stumblingblocks in the channel Edgar Cayce, regarding sex or associations or questionable companions or the like? These have ever followed the delving into the material affairs of individuals in which the associations were involved in things that partook only of the gratifying of material and secular desires. Ye would not use a delicate object, even as a razor, for sharpening pencils! Ye would not give thy diamonds to children, nor cast thy pearls to swine! Then, the judgment is to be upon those who are involved in the situations and the circumstance that has arisen in the associations. This is not a condition that is out of the ordinary, but the work of a pervert. Hence it becomes all the more a question as to what the decisions are to be in same; all the more questionable to undertake such. As indicated, then, considering all of these, the judgments as to whether or not it is to be undertaken rest with Hugh Lynn and David E. Kahn. We are through for the present. Two copies to Hugh Lynn Cayce, Hotel Woodward, 55th & Broadway, New York City, one copy to be given to Sponsor, David E. Kahn - Sent Special - Phoned also Copy to Ass'n file

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Are the aura charts the same as the plaques of the Egyptian period which [993] and [294] each saw in a vision of some years ago, or what is the connection?

No. One is a life seal. One was of the plaques made for the individuals to be indicated. As has been given through these channels, oft individuals are given life seals. These vary quite a bit from even the figures in an aura chart. And at times they conform. But one is made for that as a study by the individual of those things wherein it failed or developed, and are to be as lessons - and that is why it has been given. This may become a helpful influence to the individual; while a plaque is usually as the reminder of some individual fact or act to be attained or discarded, and it is indicated in the information given respecting such. On the other hand, the aura chart - to those who would study same (for little comes of itself) - is for the individual until it has fully attained. Who has attained? Then, study same oft - analyzing them as to the significance, as to that given as the warning. For as He gave, he that would be forewarned would not allow his house to be broken up. Whose house? What house? Thy body, thy mind, thy soul!

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(Q): Are the aura charts the same as the plaques of the Egyptian period which [993] and [294] each saw in a vision of some years ago, or what is the connection? (A): No. One is a life seal. One was of the plaques made for the individuals to be indicated. As has been given through these channels, oft individuals are given life seals. These vary quite a bit from even the figures in an aura chart. And at times they conform. But one is made for that as a study by the individual of those things wherein it failed or developed, and are to be as lessons - and that is why it has been given. This may become a helpful influence to the individual; while a plaque is usually as the reminder of some individual fact or act to be attained or discarded, and it is indicated in the information given respecting such. On the other hand, the aura chart - to those who would study same (for little comes of itself) - is for the individual until it has fully attained. Who has attained? Then, study same oft - analyzing them as to the significance, as to that given as the warning. For as He gave, he that would be forewarned would not allow his house to be broken up. Whose house? What house? Thy body, thy mind, thy soul!

How can the aura charts be made of the greater help in the present to the individual, either by study in groups or by lectures?

You've forgotten what we've just said! Read what has just been given! We are through. Copy to Miss Esther Wynne (to be compiled in paper on Aura Charts to be stenciled and sent to those interested in obtaining an Aura Chart Rdg.) Ass'n file

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(Q): Are the aura charts the same as the plaques of the Egyptian period which [993] and [294] each saw in a vision of some years ago, or what is the connection? (A): No. One is a life seal. One was of the plaques made for the individuals to be indicated. As has been given through these channels, oft individuals are given life seals. These vary quite a bit from even the figures in an aura chart. And at times they conform. But one is made for that as a study by the individual of those things wherein it failed or developed, and are to be as lessons - and that is why it has been given. This may become a helpful influence to the individual; while a plaque is usually as the reminder of some individual fact or act to be attained or discarded, and it is indicated in the information given respecting such. On the other hand, the aura chart - to those who would study same (for little comes of itself) - is for the individual until it has fully attained. Who has attained? Then, study same oft - analyzing them as to the significance, as to that given as the warning. For as He gave, he that would be forewarned would not allow his house to be broken up. Whose house? What house? Thy body, thy mind, thy soul! (Q): How can the aura charts be made of the greater help in the present to the individual, either by study in groups or by lectures? (A): You've forgotten what we've just said! Read what has just been given! We are through. Copy to Miss Esther Wynne (to be compiled in paper on Aura Charts to be stenciled and sent to those interested in obtaining an Aura Chart Rdg.) Ass'n file

In the aura chart [307-20] given March 15, 1942, for [307] a headdress as a band, on which V's were depicted, for the Atlantean period of the entity - what do the V's mean?

Still means the same old thing as it has ever meant - VICTORY! There it meant the victory over self.

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(Q): Are the aura charts the same as the plaques of the Egyptian period which [993] and [294] each saw in a vision of some years ago, or what is the connection? (A): No. One is a life seal. One was of the plaques made for the individuals to be indicated. As has been given through these channels, oft individuals are given life seals. These vary quite a bit from even the figures in an aura chart. And at times they conform. But one is made for that as a study by the individual of those things wherein it failed or developed, and are to be as lessons - and that is why it has been given. This may become a helpful influence to the individual; while a plaque is usually as the reminder of some individual fact or act to be attained or discarded, and it is indicated in the information given respecting such. On the other hand, the aura chart - to those who would study same (for little comes of itself) - is for the individual until it has fully attained. Who has attained? Then, study same oft - analyzing them as to the significance, as to that given as the warning. For as He gave, he that would be forewarned would not allow his house to be broken up. Whose house? What house? Thy body, thy mind, thy soul! (Q): How can the aura charts be made of the greater help in the present to the individual, either by study in groups or by lectures? (A): You've forgotten what we've just said! Read what has just been given! We are through. Copy to Miss Esther Wynne (to be compiled in paper on Aura Charts to be stenciled and sent to those interested in obtaining an Aura Chart Rdg.) Ass'n file (Q): In the aura chart [307-20] given March 15, 1942, for [307] a headdress as a band, on which V's were depicted, for the Atlantean period of the entity - what do the V's mean? (A): Still means the same old thing as it has ever meant - VICTORY! There it meant the victory over self.

Is the size of the paper, the quality and colors correct for the aura charts that she has painted?

Whether you make the paper 2` wide or 2' wide, or 4', - that is to be the choice of the artist!

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(Q): Are the aura charts the same as the plaques of the Egyptian period which [993] and [294] each saw in a vision of some years ago, or what is the connection? (A): No. One is a life seal. One was of the plaques made for the individuals to be indicated. As has been given through these channels, oft individuals are given life seals. These vary quite a bit from even the figures in an aura chart. And at times they conform. But one is made for that as a study by the individual of those things wherein it failed or developed, and are to be as lessons - and that is why it has been given. This may become a helpful influence to the individual; while a plaque is usually as the reminder of some individual fact or act to be attained or discarded, and it is indicated in the information given respecting such. On the other hand, the aura chart - to those who would study same (for little comes of itself) - is for the individual until it has fully attained. Who has attained? Then, study same oft - analyzing them as to the significance, as to that given as the warning. For as He gave, he that would be forewarned would not allow his house to be broken up. Whose house? What house? Thy body, thy mind, thy soul! (Q): How can the aura charts be made of the greater help in the present to the individual, either by study in groups or by lectures? (A): You've forgotten what we've just said! Read what has just been given! We are through. Copy to Miss Esther Wynne (to be compiled in paper on Aura Charts to be stenciled and sent to those interested in obtaining an Aura Chart Rdg.) Ass'n file (Q): In the aura chart [307-20] given March 15, 1942, for [307] a headdress as a band, on which V's were depicted, for the Atlantean period of the entity - what do the V's mean? (A): Still means the same old thing as it has ever meant - VICTORY! There it meant the victory over self. (Q): Is the size of the paper, the quality and colors correct for the aura charts that she has painted? (A): Whether you make the paper 2` wide or 2' wide, or 4', - that is to be the choice of the artist!

Please consider the drawing of the Temple Beautiful, which I hold in my hand, as interpreted by the artist from information given through this channel, and give such suggestions and corrections as may be necessary to help her to draw such when the aura chart calls for same.

This is very good. The figure, or the obelisk upon which the light is put, should be more in the shape of a six-sided figure than merely a spire. It is not the attempt, in the building of the Temple Beautiful, to indicate a spire but as a source of light through which that activity in the Temple aided the individuals as there was the activity or passivity through the periods of cleansing or purification of those necessary influences, of lack of influences, in the individual entity. For, as has been indicated, the characteristics, or that attained by an individual, are indicated by the sign under which the entity enters an appearance. (This as a side note: Remember, those indicated in the charts that are accepted by most astrologers are some ten days behind. Thus we find some variations in the information indicated for individuals through these channels.)

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(Q): Are the aura charts the same as the plaques of the Egyptian period which [993] and [294] each saw in a vision of some years ago, or what is the connection? (A): No. One is a life seal. One was of the plaques made for the individuals to be indicated. As has been given through these channels, oft individuals are given life seals. These vary quite a bit from even the figures in an aura chart. And at times they conform. But one is made for that as a study by the individual of those things wherein it failed or developed, and are to be as lessons - and that is why it has been given. This may become a helpful influence to the individual; while a plaque is usually as the reminder of some individual fact or act to be attained or discarded, and it is indicated in the information given respecting such. On the other hand, the aura chart - to those who would study same (for little comes of itself) - is for the individual until it has fully attained. Who has attained? Then, study same oft - analyzing them as to the significance, as to that given as the warning. For as He gave, he that would be forewarned would not allow his house to be broken up. Whose house? What house? Thy body, thy mind, thy soul! (Q): How can the aura charts be made of the greater help in the present to the individual, either by study in groups or by lectures? (A): You've forgotten what we've just said! Read what has just been given! We are through. Copy to Miss Esther Wynne (to be compiled in paper on Aura Charts to be stenciled and sent to those interested in obtaining an Aura Chart Rdg.) Ass'n file (Q): In the aura chart [307-20] given March 15, 1942, for [307] a headdress as a band, on which V's were depicted, for the Atlantean period of the entity - what do the V's mean? (A): Still means the same old thing as it has ever meant - VICTORY! There it meant the victory over self. (Q): Is the size of the paper, the quality and colors correct for the aura charts that she has painted? (A): Whether you make the paper 2` wide or 2' wide, or 4', - that is to be the choice of the artist! (Q): Please consider the drawing of the Temple Beautiful, which I hold in my hand, as interpreted by the artist from information given through this channel, and give such suggestions and corrections as may be necessary to help her to draw such when the aura chart calls for same. (A): This is very good. The figure, or the obelisk upon which the light is put, should be more in the shape of a six-sided figure than merely a spire. It is not the attempt, in the building of the Temple Beautiful, to indicate a spire but as a source of light through which that activity in the Temple aided the individuals as there was the activity or passivity through the periods of cleansing or purification of those necessary influences, of lack of influences, in the individual entity. For, as has been indicated, the characteristics, or that attained by an individual, are indicated by the sign under which the entity enters an appearance. (This as a side note: Remember, those indicated in the charts that are accepted by most astrologers are some ten days behind. Thus we find some variations in the information indicated for individuals through these channels.)

You will consider the aura charts as given through this channel, and answer the questions regarding same, as I ask them:

Yes, we have the information which has been indicated through this channel respecting aura charts. As we have given, an aura chart is the attempt to interpret the material experiences of individuals in their journeys through the earth; indicating, pictorially, as to that place in the earth of the individual activity, and - upon either the right or the left - the sources from which the entity came into activity in the earthly or material consciousness. About same is symbolized, in the signs of the zodiac, as to that portion of body which was stressed through that particular period of activity. By color certain activities are also symbolized - for instance, black indicates the whole combination of all. For, to material interpretation, white is the absence of color, black is the combination of them all. The dark blue indicates awakening; purple, healing; white, purity; gold, attaining. All of these and their varied shades indicate the activity; this applying to the stars as well as the sun or moon. The sun indicates strength and life, while the moon indicates change - and in one direction indicating the singleness of that activity through an individual experience - the variations being indicated by the variations in the color. Star - the white, purity; the five-pointed, the whole senses of man indicated as attained to activity - the colors showing the variation; the forms of six, seven or eight pointed indicating the attainments - as do the seven stars in a figure indicate the attaining to the seven particular centers in the body. 8. As for the whole chart - the interpretation is more up to the artist - as to its beauty. The study of the meaning of Aries, Saggitarius, Pisces, Libra, or any or all of such phases, would indicate the activity of the individual. For, remember, it is body manifestation - some the feet, some the head, some the thigh, some the groin, some the bowels, some the breast, - some one and some another, see? these indicating the ACTIVITY of the individual. Ready for questions.

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Are there any books or other literature which would aid either the children or the teacher?

There have been many that would be aids, as IN THE DEVELOPING MIND that has been written by DeWitt, or that of TRAINING OF CHILDREN as by McDowell, or the like. The BETTER is to train self first AS a teacher, in consecration of self's life to the service of the GREAT Teacher, and using those same laws, same truths, that were taught by HIM, and THESE will give such results in the experience of individuals as to be found to be of the GREATEST help; though, to be sure, any that gives those various conditions that are experienced in the life or experience of others is naturally of help or aid to others in meeting their own problems. First of all in teaching, do not attempt to teach one that abhors such conditions as a clean body with one that desires to be in mud continually, whether mind OR body! [See 5747-1, Reports.]

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(Q): Are there any books or other literature which would aid either the children or the teacher? (A): There have been many that would be aids, as IN THE DEVELOPING MIND that has been written by DeWitt, or that of TRAINING OF CHILDREN as by McDowell, or the like. The BETTER is to train self first AS a teacher, in consecration of self's life to the service of the GREAT Teacher, and using those same laws, same truths, that were taught by HIM, and THESE will give such results in the experience of individuals as to be found to be of the GREATEST help; though, to be sure, any that gives those various conditions that are experienced in the life or experience of others is naturally of help or aid to others in meeting their own problems. First of all in teaching, do not attempt to teach one that abhors such conditions as a clean body with one that desires to be in mud continually, whether mind OR body! [See 5747-1, Reports.]

How is the best way to explain God to a child under twelve years of age?

In nature. As the unfolding of that that is seen ABOUT the child itself, whether in the grasses, the flowers, the birds, or what; for each are an expression of the Creative Energies in its activity, and the sooner EVERY SOUL would learn that they themselves are a portion of everything about same, with the ability within self to make one's self one WITH that that brought ALL into being, the change is as that of service in its NATURALNESS.

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(Q): Are there any books or other literature which would aid either the children or the teacher? (A): There have been many that would be aids, as IN THE DEVELOPING MIND that has been written by DeWitt, or that of TRAINING OF CHILDREN as by McDowell, or the like. The BETTER is to train self first AS a teacher, in consecration of self's life to the service of the GREAT Teacher, and using those same laws, same truths, that were taught by HIM, and THESE will give such results in the experience of individuals as to be found to be of the GREATEST help; though, to be sure, any that gives those various conditions that are experienced in the life or experience of others is naturally of help or aid to others in meeting their own problems. First of all in teaching, do not attempt to teach one that abhors such conditions as a clean body with one that desires to be in mud continually, whether mind OR body! [See 5747-1, Reports.] (Q): How is the best way to explain God to a child under twelve years of age? (A): In nature. As the unfolding of that that is seen ABOUT the child itself, whether in the grasses, the flowers, the birds, or what; for each are an expression of the Creative Energies in its activity, and the sooner EVERY SOUL would learn that they themselves are a portion of everything about same, with the ability within self to make one's self one WITH that that brought ALL into being, the change is as that of service in its NATURALNESS.

How may normal children be made to become more interested in studies that are vital to a liberal education?

One may not be made, but there may be put in their WAY that as will lead them to investigate or delve into those things in nature in the world about them, that leads to the unifying of the sources of all force in the physical world. Do not attempt, when the older or the developing mind has reached ten, eleven, thirteen years, to interest them in that which interests them not; for then we find their minds opening FOR that, TO that, which has been BUILDED in their development throughout their experience in a material plane, but the consecration of the teacher, or the parents, then gives the necessary expression to meet those conditions. Be one with, even as He was one with; remembering ever that, as HE gave, so is to the teacher or the parent, `Unless ye become as little children ye shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.` Be able, then, of thine own consecration, to be one WITH them in THEIR problems, for in the tot that has just begun to think THEIR problems to them are as great as thine own, yet how easily are they forgotten - as yours should be! Train in the way as a child, and when old they will not depart from laying trouble aside. That that lives in the past, that that builds and builds, is not as the child. Expect and ye shall receive. Knock and it shall be opened.

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(Q): Are there any books or other literature which would aid either the children or the teacher? (A): There have been many that would be aids, as IN THE DEVELOPING MIND that has been written by DeWitt, or that of TRAINING OF CHILDREN as by McDowell, or the like. The BETTER is to train self first AS a teacher, in consecration of self's life to the service of the GREAT Teacher, and using those same laws, same truths, that were taught by HIM, and THESE will give such results in the experience of individuals as to be found to be of the GREATEST help; though, to be sure, any that gives those various conditions that are experienced in the life or experience of others is naturally of help or aid to others in meeting their own problems. First of all in teaching, do not attempt to teach one that abhors such conditions as a clean body with one that desires to be in mud continually, whether mind OR body! [See 5747-1, Reports.] (Q): How is the best way to explain God to a child under twelve years of age? (A): In nature. As the unfolding of that that is seen ABOUT the child itself, whether in the grasses, the flowers, the birds, or what; for each are an expression of the Creative Energies in its activity, and the sooner EVERY SOUL would learn that they themselves are a portion of everything about same, with the ability within self to make one's self one WITH that that brought ALL into being, the change is as that of service in its NATURALNESS. (Q): How may normal children be made to become more interested in studies that are vital to a liberal education? (A): One may not be made, but there may be put in their WAY that as will lead them to investigate or delve into those things in nature in the world about them, that leads to the unifying of the sources of all force in the physical world. Do not attempt, when the older or the developing mind has reached ten, eleven, thirteen years, to interest them in that which interests them not; for then we find their minds opening FOR that, TO that, which has been BUILDED in their development throughout their experience in a material plane, but the consecration of the teacher, or the parents, then gives the necessary expression to meet those conditions. Be one with, even as He was one with; remembering ever that, as HE gave, so is to the teacher or the parent, `Unless ye become as little children ye shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.` Be able, then, of thine own consecration, to be one WITH them in THEIR problems, for in the tot that has just begun to think THEIR problems to them are as great as thine own, yet how easily are they forgotten - as yours should be! Train in the way as a child, and when old they will not depart from laying trouble aside. That that lives in the past, that that builds and builds, is not as the child. Expect and ye shall receive. Knock and it shall be opened.

What is the best method to be used in curing children of injurious habits already formed?

In using that of suggestion to the subconscious or soul mind of the body as it loses itself in normal sleep, and praying with and for the body. In that state when the body loses consciousness in sleep, the soul mind (not the unconscious, but the subconscious proper, or superconscious) may be impressed by suggestion that will be retroactive in the waking, or in the physical normal body. In these manners may the better results be obtained in a developing body, for it becomes then retentive and will retain same as the ideas and ideals of every element of the body's activities; for they become as the virtues of the body-mind, and from same the understandings of how, why same is retentive, and will be acted upon in its activative force, in its motivating actions, through the normal conditions of the body or mind.

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(Q): Are there any books or other literature which would aid either the children or the teacher? (A): There have been many that would be aids, as IN THE DEVELOPING MIND that has been written by DeWitt, or that of TRAINING OF CHILDREN as by McDowell, or the like. The BETTER is to train self first AS a teacher, in consecration of self's life to the service of the GREAT Teacher, and using those same laws, same truths, that were taught by HIM, and THESE will give such results in the experience of individuals as to be found to be of the GREATEST help; though, to be sure, any that gives those various conditions that are experienced in the life or experience of others is naturally of help or aid to others in meeting their own problems. First of all in teaching, do not attempt to teach one that abhors such conditions as a clean body with one that desires to be in mud continually, whether mind OR body! [See 5747-1, Reports.] (Q): How is the best way to explain God to a child under twelve years of age? (A): In nature. As the unfolding of that that is seen ABOUT the child itself, whether in the grasses, the flowers, the birds, or what; for each are an expression of the Creative Energies in its activity, and the sooner EVERY SOUL would learn that they themselves are a portion of everything about same, with the ability within self to make one's self one WITH that that brought ALL into being, the change is as that of service in its NATURALNESS. (Q): How may normal children be made to become more interested in studies that are vital to a liberal education? (A): One may not be made, but there may be put in their WAY that as will lead them to investigate or delve into those things in nature in the world about them, that leads to the unifying of the sources of all force in the physical world. Do not attempt, when the older or the developing mind has reached ten, eleven, thirteen years, to interest them in that which interests them not; for then we find their minds opening FOR that, TO that, which has been BUILDED in their development throughout their experience in a material plane, but the consecration of the teacher, or the parents, then gives the necessary expression to meet those conditions. Be one with, even as He was one with; remembering ever that, as HE gave, so is to the teacher or the parent, `Unless ye become as little children ye shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.` Be able, then, of thine own consecration, to be one WITH them in THEIR problems, for in the tot that has just begun to think THEIR problems to them are as great as thine own, yet how easily are they forgotten - as yours should be! Train in the way as a child, and when old they will not depart from laying trouble aside. That that lives in the past, that that builds and builds, is not as the child. Expect and ye shall receive. Knock and it shall be opened. (Q): What is the best method to be used in curing children of injurious habits already formed? (A): In using that of suggestion to the subconscious or soul mind of the body as it loses itself in normal sleep, and praying with and for the body. In that state when the body loses consciousness in sleep, the soul mind (not the unconscious, but the subconscious proper, or superconscious) may be impressed by suggestion that will be retroactive in the waking, or in the physical normal body. In these manners may the better results be obtained in a developing body, for it becomes then retentive and will retain same as the ideas and ideals of every element of the body's activities; for they become as the virtues of the body-mind, and from same the understandings of how, why same is retentive, and will be acted upon in its activative force, in its motivating actions, through the normal conditions of the body or mind.

When children are more interested in play or work than study, should they be forced to attend school?

Depends upon when this began as to the necessity of attending school. Oft in the parent, they themselves have builded IN the child the dislike for school, by the things that have been said before they ever start to school! Do not attempt to TURN that that has been builded. Rather ANALYZE the conditions as to what the cause, and by persuasion - rather than coercion - bring about that which is not as THOU may think, but as may be builded FOR that which is in keeping with the prayers that may be offered; and here may be given as to how prayer may be answered and KNOW you have the correct answer WHEN you have the answer: The spirit speaks of itself. When such a question arises, ASK of self yes or no - get the answer, yes or no - for it will come! This may be wholly mental, see? Whether yes or no - may be wholly mental. Then in thine prayer, in thine meditation, `IS my answer (whatever it may be) correct or incorrect?` Then the spirit answers. We are through for the present.

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(Q): Are there any books or other literature which would aid either the children or the teacher? (A): There have been many that would be aids, as IN THE DEVELOPING MIND that has been written by DeWitt, or that of TRAINING OF CHILDREN as by McDowell, or the like. The BETTER is to train self first AS a teacher, in consecration of self's life to the service of the GREAT Teacher, and using those same laws, same truths, that were taught by HIM, and THESE will give such results in the experience of individuals as to be found to be of the GREATEST help; though, to be sure, any that gives those various conditions that are experienced in the life or experience of others is naturally of help or aid to others in meeting their own problems. First of all in teaching, do not attempt to teach one that abhors such conditions as a clean body with one that desires to be in mud continually, whether mind OR body! [See 5747-1, Reports.] (Q): How is the best way to explain God to a child under twelve years of age? (A): In nature. As the unfolding of that that is seen ABOUT the child itself, whether in the grasses, the flowers, the birds, or what; for each are an expression of the Creative Energies in its activity, and the sooner EVERY SOUL would learn that they themselves are a portion of everything about same, with the ability within self to make one's self one WITH that that brought ALL into being, the change is as that of service in its NATURALNESS. (Q): How may normal children be made to become more interested in studies that are vital to a liberal education? (A): One may not be made, but there may be put in their WAY that as will lead them to investigate or delve into those things in nature in the world about them, that leads to the unifying of the sources of all force in the physical world. Do not attempt, when the older or the developing mind has reached ten, eleven, thirteen years, to interest them in that which interests them not; for then we find their minds opening FOR that, TO that, which has been BUILDED in their development throughout their experience in a material plane, but the consecration of the teacher, or the parents, then gives the necessary expression to meet those conditions. Be one with, even as He was one with; remembering ever that, as HE gave, so is to the teacher or the parent, `Unless ye become as little children ye shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.` Be able, then, of thine own consecration, to be one WITH them in THEIR problems, for in the tot that has just begun to think THEIR problems to them are as great as thine own, yet how easily are they forgotten - as yours should be! Train in the way as a child, and when old they will not depart from laying trouble aside. That that lives in the past, that that builds and builds, is not as the child. Expect and ye shall receive. Knock and it shall be opened. (Q): What is the best method to be used in curing children of injurious habits already formed? (A): In using that of suggestion to the subconscious or soul mind of the body as it loses itself in normal sleep, and praying with and for the body. In that state when the body loses consciousness in sleep, the soul mind (not the unconscious, but the subconscious proper, or superconscious) may be impressed by suggestion that will be retroactive in the waking, or in the physical normal body. In these manners may the better results be obtained in a developing body, for it becomes then retentive and will retain same as the ideas and ideals of every element of the body's activities; for they become as the virtues of the body-mind, and from same the understandings of how, why same is retentive, and will be acted upon in its activative force, in its motivating actions, through the normal conditions of the body or mind. (Q): When children are more interested in play or work than study, should they be forced to attend school? (A): Depends upon when this began as to the necessity of attending school. Oft in the parent, they themselves have builded IN the child the dislike for school, by the things that have been said before they ever start to school! Do not attempt to TURN that that has been builded. Rather ANALYZE the conditions as to what the cause, and by persuasion - rather than coercion - bring about that which is not as THOU may think, but as may be builded FOR that which is in keeping with the prayers that may be offered; and here may be given as to how prayer may be answered and KNOW you have the correct answer WHEN you have the answer: The spirit speaks of itself. When such a question arises, ASK of self yes or no - get the answer, yes or no - for it will come! This may be wholly mental, see? Whether yes or no - may be wholly mental. Then in thine prayer, in thine meditation, `IS my answer (whatever it may be) correct or incorrect?` Then the spirit answers. We are through for the present.

You will please give at this time in lecture form detailed information which will aid parents and teachers in training and developing a complete expression of the psychic or soul forces of children; suggesting the proper approach, system of studies and exercises for varied ages, and giving such specific rules which should be followed. Please answer the questions which will be asked.

Yes. In approaching such conditions it would be well that that as related to the parents and that as would be related to teachers be understood; for preparations for childhood and development in any phase of attributes of the mental or physical body should be begun before the conception takes place. Well that such rules as were given by Hannah or Elkanah be observed, that there is the consecration of those bodies. Then, as the development of the mind of the child, develop its imaginative forces rather than the material or objective forces. Acquaint such a mind with the activities in nature, and train especially in the laws of recompense as is seen in nature day by day. Also in those activities that make for a clean body, a clean mind, and the same recompense as in nature should be required in the activities of the developing mind of the individual. A clean, healthy body makes for a better indwelling of a healthy, clean mind, so that the spirit may manifest the better. In considering, then, the conditions that are met by teachers, or those who minister to the needs of developments of minds where little or no interest has been given as to that environ through which the developing mind has passed, or is passing - IF, or rather has the stress been laid upon the material or the objective lessons of life that are presented to them, then the necessity of segregation is in order; for these that are called through their natural development may be given that in nature, in the beauties in nature, in those expressions that come through the study of same, that which will make for the abilities of the closer associations of an entity-mind, an entity-soul awakening; while the environs where such are given to those that abhor, or have been trained, or have not had that development that makes for hindering such conditions, these - to be sure - present in themselves many conditions that make for combativeness; yet these would be well to be kept in their own respective spheres of development. As to the amount of exercise physical or mental, this necessary to be considered as respecting the environs, the ability of the development of the individual, and the responses that are made. First and foremost teach, train, IMPRESS the developing mind that it is expected to be in accord with that inner self that SEEKS expressions in the relationships of it AS an entity with its Maker, and when one trains a mind, a child, in the way it shall go, when it is old it will not depart from same. The evolution of those forces in nature that find expression in the psychic or soul forces, better that the term soul be used than psychic; though these are of the same nature, dependent upon the stress by the individual, for these often become taboo by ones when their very expression is to follow in the very same idea that is being expressed by another, but in following same keep that mind that, that consecrated for a purpose, ALLOW that to be used in that direction, and that way and manner which will bring for the individual, and to the individual, that it has been led to expect; and, as has oft been given, there is a replica in nature of every force that may be manifest in heaven, and this may be made a part of each developing mind.

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Do the average social workers, including probation officers, realize that they are working with individual souls? Do they work with that as a foremost thought?

Not the average one. Rather has the position first been that of the placing OF some one, as it were, for a job; than the developing or giving of such positions to those giving their hearts, minds, souls, bodies, as a service. It is the more often just filling a job! Rather then should it be that those filling such positions should be those that are not only trained but who have dedicated their lives, their minds, their bodies, to the service of such.

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(Q): Do the average social workers, including probation officers, realize that they are working with individual souls? Do they work with that as a foremost thought? (A): Not the average one. Rather has the position first been that of the placing OF some one, as it were, for a job; than the developing or giving of such positions to those giving their hearts, minds, souls, bodies, as a service. It is the more often just filling a job! Rather then should it be that those filling such positions should be those that are not only trained but who have dedicated their lives, their minds, their bodies, to the service of such.

Is it not true that more changes could be made in our present plan of education? In what direction?

As indicated. Know from what the soul has come in its experience. In THAT direction. For, as may be seen in the material world, when one has heard from what section of the country, or from what school or from what walk of life one has come, it may be well judged as to what that individual thinks! So, when it is known what have been the problems of a delinquent, what have been the trials and the turmoils in the inner self, THEN it may be known how to meet them! This discussion may be carried further. We are through for the present.

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(Q): Do the average social workers, including probation officers, realize that they are working with individual souls? Do they work with that as a foremost thought? (A): Not the average one. Rather has the position first been that of the placing OF some one, as it were, for a job; than the developing or giving of such positions to those giving their hearts, minds, souls, bodies, as a service. It is the more often just filling a job! Rather then should it be that those filling such positions should be those that are not only trained but who have dedicated their lives, their minds, their bodies, to the service of such. (Q): Is it not true that more changes could be made in our present plan of education? In what direction? (A): As indicated. Know from what the soul has come in its experience. In THAT direction. For, as may be seen in the material world, when one has heard from what section of the country, or from what school or from what walk of life one has come, it may be well judged as to what that individual thinks! So, when it is known what have been the problems of a delinquent, what have been the trials and the turmoils in the inner self, THEN it may be known how to meet them! This discussion may be carried further. We are through for the present.

Much is said about the prevention of juvenile delinquency and adult crime. That which is being done at the present time is ascertaining the cause of delinquency and prescribe treatment. What, if anything, is being done in the field of prevention?

Not until they begin at the BASIC root of same, and that is delinquency in high places. Yet, as indicated, this is a matter of education; and of those in authority being first trained in that field of activity, with their minds and bodies dedicated to the service of their fellow man.

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(Q): Do the average social workers, including probation officers, realize that they are working with individual souls? Do they work with that as a foremost thought? (A): Not the average one. Rather has the position first been that of the placing OF some one, as it were, for a job; than the developing or giving of such positions to those giving their hearts, minds, souls, bodies, as a service. It is the more often just filling a job! Rather then should it be that those filling such positions should be those that are not only trained but who have dedicated their lives, their minds, their bodies, to the service of such. (Q): Is it not true that more changes could be made in our present plan of education? In what direction? (A): As indicated. Know from what the soul has come in its experience. In THAT direction. For, as may be seen in the material world, when one has heard from what section of the country, or from what school or from what walk of life one has come, it may be well judged as to what that individual thinks! So, when it is known what have been the problems of a delinquent, what have been the trials and the turmoils in the inner self, THEN it may be known how to meet them! This discussion may be carried further. We are through for the present. (Q): Much is said about the prevention of juvenile delinquency and adult crime. That which is being done at the present time is ascertaining the cause of delinquency and prescribe treatment. What, if anything, is being done in the field of prevention? (A): Not until they begin at the BASIC root of same, and that is delinquency in high places. Yet, as indicated, this is a matter of education; and of those in authority being first trained in that field of activity, with their minds and bodies dedicated to the service of their fellow man.

We are educating our children in public and high schools and colleges to equip them intelligently for their activities in the commercial world. Should we not equip them some knowledge as to how to live?

As we have said, when there is the study of the activities of the SPIRIT upon the minds of the young, in their formative years, as there has been studied the variation in the triad and the sextette, it will make the proper setting for a UNIVERSAL as well as a real individual advancement in civilization. For the study of man is Man! The study of the motivating force of Life itself, then (or the spirit and soul), is to study same; NOT the effects; not that which has been the outcome, but what has caused same.

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(Q): Do the average social workers, including probation officers, realize that they are working with individual souls? Do they work with that as a foremost thought? (A): Not the average one. Rather has the position first been that of the placing OF some one, as it were, for a job; than the developing or giving of such positions to those giving their hearts, minds, souls, bodies, as a service. It is the more often just filling a job! Rather then should it be that those filling such positions should be those that are not only trained but who have dedicated their lives, their minds, their bodies, to the service of such. (Q): Is it not true that more changes could be made in our present plan of education? In what direction? (A): As indicated. Know from what the soul has come in its experience. In THAT direction. For, as may be seen in the material world, when one has heard from what section of the country, or from what school or from what walk of life one has come, it may be well judged as to what that individual thinks! So, when it is known what have been the problems of a delinquent, what have been the trials and the turmoils in the inner self, THEN it may be known how to meet them! This discussion may be carried further. We are through for the present. (Q): Much is said about the prevention of juvenile delinquency and adult crime. That which is being done at the present time is ascertaining the cause of delinquency and prescribe treatment. What, if anything, is being done in the field of prevention? (A): Not until they begin at the BASIC root of same, and that is delinquency in high places. Yet, as indicated, this is a matter of education; and of those in authority being first trained in that field of activity, with their minds and bodies dedicated to the service of their fellow man. (Q): We are educating our children in public and high schools and colleges to equip them intelligently for their activities in the commercial world. Should we not equip them some knowledge as to how to live? (A): As we have said, when there is the study of the activities of the SPIRIT upon the minds of the young, in their formative years, as there has been studied the variation in the triad and the sextette, it will make the proper setting for a UNIVERSAL as well as a real individual advancement in civilization. For the study of man is Man! The study of the motivating force of Life itself, then (or the spirit and soul), is to study same; NOT the effects; not that which has been the outcome, but what has caused same.

You will have before you the general condition of juvenile delinquency in this country, with special reference to Norfolk, Va., and vicinity as example. You will give a discourse on this subject suggesting the most feasible plan and method for meeting this problem. You will answer the questions as presented by [...], Norfolk, Va., present in this room.

[After repeating suggestion in an undertone] Yes, we have the question of juvenile delinquency and those problems that confront the individuals so affected; also those conditions in the environs of Norfolk in particular. In giving a discussion of such a subject, many are the approaches that may be had in considering even the cause - and MORE in the help that may be given. Much has been given on many phases of those studies presented through these sources, and through similar channels, as to what takes place in that condition when a soul enters the earth for an experience; and those conditions that make for the entering of this or that type for the experience in a particular environment. Hence we may say that to Norfolk and its environs there are those conditions, those vibrations created by the activity, by the thought, by the manner in which individuals AS individuals, as groups, as officers administering the laws in every nature have created by THEIR activity in relationships to their fellow man. For, what is the law concerning the judgment of man in his relationships to his source of life, activity, power, motivative forces? What hath He said? That all force, all power, comes from Him the UNIVERSAL Force or Power. Then, how are ye to be judged? `As ye do it unto thy fellow man, ye do it unto me.` Then, those in authority, those in power, those in the positions of trust, those in every walk of life make for the adding to or taking from the energies, the powers, the motivative influence in - what? The Mind of each soul as represented in a body, IS the Builder. And through those years when there is the molding of the motivative influences in the experience of an individual does it act upon those that ARE susceptible to influence. Who, then, is susceptible? Those in their juvenile years. So, not only those in the home have their influence; not only those in the school; not only the associates of an individual; but those in authority, those in power, those to whom the father, the mother, may look for their daily sustenance, for their protection in their home, for their guiding in their spiritual life, for their understanding in their mental life. ALL have their influence and create the environment that makes for the adding to or the taking from the delinquency of ANY individual in its associations through any particular experience. For the WILL of an individual is the MOTIVATIVE force; that is, that which makes for the choice which is made by the individual under this or that circumstance, this or that experience. And if there is the force or influence in the high place that shows or is spoken of as questioning, or if there is a question mark put after the name of the minister, the lawyer, the doctor, the politician, the judge, the jury, the father or the mother, it but creates in the MIND of the individuals that which impresses and leads and directs. And what is the greater force? The PRESS! It spreads before those that think, that which makes for the activities that are heralded in such a fashion or manner as to make for the building up or the destroying of that influence in such a community, such an environ, such a surrounding. Thus it adds the greater influence to that created in the surrounding that makes for the delinquency in the individual. So, we might go on and on in this manner, giving as to what adds to or takes from the condition. Yet, as is EVER the case, it it the problem of what is to be done about same. 17. Let us make a specific illustration, that we may better comprehend what is the fault - and where: The individual soul, then, enters the earth plane in a home where there is the acceptance of the general rule of its position in society here or there, in the environment of the ordinary home. And the life of this or that of its associates, its parents, is almost above reproach (For none exist that may not be reproached, or reproach themselves); but the ordinary. Yet in that which is written, spoken, acted by the individual's environments, there is seen the response to that which has been builded in the soul through its experiences in the earth. And this is either added to or taken from. It is taken from when there is faultfinding, petty jealousies; the consideration of the aggrandizement of the exercising of the elements and influences in the body-forces, in sex, in taking what may add to its ability to satisfy the cravings of what has been builded by the entity. Then, what may be that which may be even helpful to individuals? For it must come to the INDIVIDUAL problems, and the addition of that in the experience of one here and there. For it is line upon line, precept upon precept, as He has given; here a little, there a little. For the knowledge of the Creative Force is a GROWTH in the experience of the SOUL, of the Mind, of the Body, that gives expression of that as entertained there. Hence, those that would be helpful, know the problems in the Soul! And then educate those that may be chosen to, in their experience, meet with such individuals that which has been their problem. For the more oft are the girls or boys in their teens, in their younger years, misdirected when they are only attempting to give SOUL-expression of that which MOVES them! Those that are ground in their OWN subtle selves to THEIR idea, without an ideal, MISCONSTRUE the individual or child's intent and purpose. Hence, only an educational man that is in heart, mind and body ground in the principles, `As ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them,` and `As ye do it unto the least of these, ye do it unto me,` may begin in Norfolk or vicinity - or in ANY environ - that which may meet such a need; or may call for that as will answer. `Yea,` ye say, `Why have the various organizations not met those needs? They flourish; they are aided and directed by godly men.` What, then, is the trouble? Those in authority - not only in the organization but in the political, in the state, in this or that office - have FAILED! not only to help the individual in his formative years, but have failed the child - and will be held responsible! Ready for questions.

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Are there any sex practices that should be abolished -

(Interrupting) There are many sex PRACTICES in the various portions of this land, as in other lands, that should be - MUST be - abolished. HOW? Only through the education of the YOUNG! Not in their teen age, for THEN they are set! When there are activities or speech not explained within the sound or sight of those in their formative years, they, TOO, must one day satisfy that which caused men to come into body-form - EXPERIENCE same THEMSELVES! Then, by word and by act keep the life CLEAN! The urge is inborn, to be sure; but if the purpose of those who bring individuals into being is only for expressing the beauty and love of the Creative Forces, or God, the urge is different with such individuals. Why? It's the law; it's the LAW!

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(Q): Are there any sex practices that should be abolished - (A): (Interrupting) There are many sex PRACTICES in the various portions of this land, as in other lands, that should be - MUST be - abolished. HOW? Only through the education of the YOUNG! Not in their teen age, for THEN they are set! When there are activities or speech not explained within the sound or sight of those in their formative years, they, TOO, must one day satisfy that which caused men to come into body-form - EXPERIENCE same THEMSELVES! Then, by word and by act keep the life CLEAN! The urge is inborn, to be sure; but if the purpose of those who bring individuals into being is only for expressing the beauty and love of the Creative Forces, or God, the urge is different with such individuals. Why? It's the law; it's the LAW!

Should anything about this sex teaching be included in the book by Austin Rice?

There has been a presentation of same in that already given, as indicated; - but this must of necessity be cut, changed - altered somewhat, or edited in such a manner that those PRINCIPLES as here presented may be as the basis of that sent or given to the public. In THAT manner, yes, give same. Much may be given on any phase of this subject; that is, sex in relationship to the teen age; sex in relationship to the young man and young woman; sex in relationship to the home. But these would only be as a phase or a portion of the whole. Prepare or present that which has been given you, in such a way that it may be - AS IT IS - a PRACTICAL thing. For unless it may be sanctioned by the powers that RULE and influence the God-given forces of man, little may be accomplished. We are through for the present.

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(Q): Are there any sex practices that should be abolished - (A): (Interrupting) There are many sex PRACTICES in the various portions of this land, as in other lands, that should be - MUST be - abolished. HOW? Only through the education of the YOUNG! Not in their teen age, for THEN they are set! When there are activities or speech not explained within the sound or sight of those in their formative years, they, TOO, must one day satisfy that which caused men to come into body-form - EXPERIENCE same THEMSELVES! Then, by word and by act keep the life CLEAN! The urge is inborn, to be sure; but if the purpose of those who bring individuals into being is only for expressing the beauty and love of the Creative Forces, or God, the urge is different with such individuals. Why? It's the law; it's the LAW! (Q): Should anything about this sex teaching be included in the book by Austin Rice? (A): There has been a presentation of same in that already given, as indicated; - but this must of necessity be cut, changed - altered somewhat, or edited in such a manner that those PRINCIPLES as here presented may be as the basis of that sent or given to the public. In THAT manner, yes, give same. Much may be given on any phase of this subject; that is, sex in relationship to the teen age; sex in relationship to the young man and young woman; sex in relationship to the home. But these would only be as a phase or a portion of the whole. Prepare or present that which has been given you, in such a way that it may be - AS IT IS - a PRACTICAL thing. For unless it may be sanctioned by the powers that RULE and influence the God-given forces of man, little may be accomplished. We are through for the present.

You will have before you the question of sex and sex relations as related to delinquency of the teens and younger ages. You will give such information on this subject as indicated could be given through this channel as a warning at this time. Indicate that which should be used for publication and application by Charles Austin Rice and A. K. Swartz present here. You will answer the questions that may be asked:

[After repeating suggestion in an undertone] Yes, we have the question here regarding sex and sex relationships, the influence that is manifested in the lives of the people as a whole in this country; with relationship to delinquency in the teen age. In giving, then, that as we find from here, it is well that you who are considering being of aid to others in meeting or facing this problem at this time be given something not exactly as a history but as a review - for the moment - of the causes, and how these causes apply in the experience of the individuals and the nations as a whole. First, we would begin then at the beginnings; man's advent into materiality or into a material world and becoming as individual bodies of the world, who became observing of this fact in the material world from that he (man and woman) saw in the earth. Hence it is given in thy writings of Scripture (although in a hidden manner, ye may observe if ye will look) how Adam named those that were brought before him in creation. Their NAME indicates to the carnal mind their relationships in the sex condition or question. Hence the question ye seek is as old as or older than man. This has been the problem throughout man's experience or man's sojourn in the earth; since taking bodily form, with the attributes of the animal in which he had PROJECTED himself as a portion of, that he might through the self gain that activity which was visualized to him in those relationships in the earth. Hence slow has been the progress through the ages. And as has been seen, and as may be gained by a study of man's development, this question of the causes, of the relationships in those directions, has ever been a problem before man. This is ever, and will ever be, a question, a problem, until there is the greater spiritual awakening within man's experience that this phase biologically, socialogically, or even from the analogical experience, must be as a stepping-stone for the greater awakening; and as the exercising of an influence in man's experience in the Creative Forces for the reproduction of species, rather than for the satisfying or gratifying of a biological urge within the individual that partakes or has partaken of the first causes of man's encasement in body in the earth. These conditions, then, as a very sketch, are the problems to be met that exist in this country, this land. As we find, they, the conditions in the social life, in the marital life, in the experience of groups of various characters, confront the world, the country, the home, the individual, today. Various problems of the same nature are in various lands, because of THEIR own individual aspect of such conditions, owing to the rule by certain political or so-called religious influences that are a portion of the laws or rules or regulations under which these attempt to direct or to govern the social relationships of man and woman. Then, what is the condition, what is wrong, and how may same be corrected - UNDER the existent conditions? For these that would be of a help must of necessity take the conditions as they EXIST, and not as they would LIKE to have them. These EXIST because of certain definite facts that have been indicated, in how that first there was seen that which brought about desire. This awoke within the various forms or manners the result of such relationships in individuals, and brought about certain relationships - and eventually man's encasement within a body which through the ages has gradually developed, with the varied activities that have influenced and been influenced by those very same questions - as they exist today. So, then, give ye unto men as this: Train ye the child when he is young, and when he is old he will not depart from the Lord. Train HIM, train HER, train THEM rather in the sacredness of that which has come to them as a privilege, which has come to them as a heritage; from a falling away, to be sure, but through the purifying of the body in thought, in act, in certainty, it may make for a peoples, a state, a nation, that may indeed herald the coming of the Lord. For this is the problem, that ye keep the law and present same as holy to those who seek. Who seeks? EVERY child born into the earth, from the age of 2 1/2 to 3 years begins to find there is something that takes place within its BODY - and that it is DIFFERENT; not as animals, though the ANIMAL instinct is there, of the biological urge, that is a law! For that is the source of man's undoing. But ye who set yourselves as examples in the order of society, education, Christian principles, religious thought, religious ideals, hold rather than to anything else to that LOVE which is UN-sexed! For He hath given that in the heavenly state, in the higher forces, there is neither marriage nor giving in marriage; for they are as ONE! Yet ye say ye are in the earth, ye are born with the urge! The awakening, then, must come from within; here a little, there a little. Each soul, each body, that is preserved unto Him as a channel of blessings has received and does receive that within itself which makes for the greater abilities for awakening within the hearts, minds, souls and bodies of the young who question `what will I do with the biological urge that arises?` PURIFY same in service to Him, in expressions of love; in expressions of the fruits of the spirit, which are: Gentleness, kindness, brotherly love, long-suffering. THESE are the fruits, and these as the urge of sex are in the nature of the association of ideas, conditions or positions as related to the various conditions about the body. Then set the activity in motion and these become either that which takes hold on hell or that which builds to the kingdom within.

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You will have before you the psychic work of Edgar Cayce, present in this room, especially that phase pertaining to Life Readings and former appearances of individuals in the earth's plane. In several readings there has been given information concerning the second ruler in Egypt who gave the first laws concerning man's relation to the Higher Forces. You will give me an outline of this teaching and how same was given to the people.

Yes, we have the work here and that phase concerning the indwelling in the earth's plane of those who first gave laws concerning indwelling of Higher Forces in man. In giving such in an understandable manner to man of today, [it is] necessary that the conditions of the earth's surface and the position of man in the earth's plane be understood, for the change has come often since this period, era, age, of man's earthly indwelling, for then at that period, only the lands now known as the Sahara and the Nile region appeared on the now African shores; that in Tibet, Mongolia, Caucasia and Norway in Asia and Europe; that in the southern cordilleras and Peru in the southwestern hemisphere and the plane of now Utah, Arizona, Mexico of the north-western hemisphere, and the spheres were then in the latitudes much as are presented at the present time. The man's indwelling [was] then in the Sahara and the upper Nile regions, the waters then entering the now Atlantic from the Nile region rather than flowing northward. The waters in the Tibet and Caucasian entering the North Sea, those in Mongolia entering the South Seas, those in the cordilleras entering the Pacific, those in the plateau entering the Northern Seas. When the earth brought forth the seed in her season, and man came in the earth plane as the lord of that in that sphere, man appeared in five places then at once - the five senses, the five reasons, the five spheres, the five developments, the five nations. In this now then as we receive, we find many peoples, or man became the union against the invasion from the now Tibetan and Caucasian forces. The separating of the peoples in their castes [was] only the beginning then of group understandings, and the first ruler of groups set self in that place in the upper Nile, now near what is known as the Valley of Tombs. In the second rule there came peace and quietude to the peoples, through the manner of the ruler's power over the then known world forces. At that period, man exchanged with the forces in each sphere that necessary for the propagation of the peoples of the sphere then occupied. In each of the spheres given was the rule set under some individual by this second ruler in now Egyptian country, and the period when the mind of that ruler brought to self, through the compliance with those Universal Laws ever existent, then that ruler set about to gather those wise men from the various groups to compile those as that ruler felt the necessary understanding to all peoples for the indwelling of the Divine Forces to become understood and to break away from the fear of the animal kingdom then overrunning the earth. We are through for the present.

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You will now have before you the reading given on the psychic work of Edgar Cayce on the morning of 5/28/25, and you will continue with this reading regarding the information of the first laws concerning man's relations to the Higher Forces, giving this in an outline manner and how this was given to the people.

Now, as we see, as given, how and what the classifications were of the physical in the earth's plane at that period, the numbers then of human souls in the earth plane being a hundred and thirty and three million (133,000,000) souls. The beginning then of the understanding of laws as applied from man's viewpoint being in this second rule in the country now Egypt. The rule covering the period of a hundred and ninety and nine (199) years, and the entity giving the chance to the peoples, for the study being in the twenty and eighth (28th) year, when [he] began to gather the peoples together for this and surrounding himself with those of that land and of the various lands wherein the human life dwelled at that period. The numbers of the people that came together for the purpose then numbering some forty and four (44). The Courts as were made were in the tents and the caves of the dwellers of the then chosen priest from the Arabian or Tibetan country, who came as one among those to assist with the astrologer and the soothsayers of the desert of now the eastern and western worlds, and with this the conclave was held for many, many, moons. The period in the world's existence from the present time being ten and one-half million (10,500,000) years, and the changes that have come in the earth's plane many have risen in the lands. Many lands have disappeared, many have appeared and disappeared again and again during these periods, gradually changing as the condition became to the relative position of the earth with the other spheres through which man passes in this solar system. The first laws, then, partook of that of the study of self, the division of mind, the division of the solar systems, the division of man in the various spheres of existence through the earth plane and through the earth's solar system. The BOOK OF THE DEAD, then, being the first of those that were written as the inscribed conditions necessary for the development in earth or in spirit planes. These, as we see, covered many various phases. About these were set many different ones to give the interpretation of same to the peoples in the various spheres that the individuals dwelled in that came together. Hence the difference in the manner of approaching the same sacrificial conditions in the various spheres, yet all using the Sun, the Moon, the Stars, as the emblems of the conditions necessary for the knowledge of those elements as enter in; same as the fish representing the water from which all were drawn out, as we would see from the various changes. The beginnings then of this in a systematic manner beginning with this second rule, in this manner, in this land. We are through for the present.

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You will have before you the reading given on the psychic work of Edgar Cayce, present in this room, on the afternoon of 5/28/25, and you will continue with this reading regarding the information of the first laws concerning man's relation to Higher Forces, giving this in an outline manner and how this was given to the people.

Yes, we have the information as given and the conditions as surrounded the giving of the first laws as regarding the indwelling of Higher Forces in the earth's plane, and man attempting to make application of same. Now as we see, we have the general outline of those conditions of man in the earth plane at the period or age, as is judged from man's viewpoint, of this gathering as caused by the second ruler of the peoples that dwelled in that portion of the earth's plane, now known as Egypt. There is to be considered, now, also those conditions under which man, as man, lived during that period in the various spheres in which man dwelt. In that land we find the peoples comparatively free from the invasion of the beasts of the field, save those as were being used for man's development and for the use of man as servant or as man's beast of burden. While we find in the now Tibetan country, then the land of the many waters, the indwelling of those of many beasts whom man had to defend self against. Again in the Mongoloid region many others of the species and nature that were destructive to man's indwelling in many ways. Also those in Caucasia, or the lighter or whiter peoples. Also in the land of the plains in the Northern spheres in the Western portion of the earth's plane, many beasts and many conditions, and man then [was] in the way of having a different understanding, for different conditions were to be met, as were also in the Southern portion. Then, as these were gathered from the five nations, we find the subjects of those pertaining to manifestations of the development of man and man's ability to cope with the conditions, and the forces wherein men were given their supremacy over the other conditions in the earth's plane. And the first as was given by the ruler was, then, [that] the force that gives man, in his weak state, as it were, the ability to subdue and overcome the great beasts that inhabit the plane of man's existence must come from a higher source. Hence the first law of self-preservation in the physical plane attributed to Divine or Higher Forces. Just as the elements adding to the betterment of man's condition in the earth plane, we have then the rudiments of that as was taught. Hence began, as given, the study of the indwelling of that other than man's physical prowess, yet there were many men of giant stature to meet the conditions as seen, yet the approach of that same force to some was reached through the power, heat, significance of Sun's force, of Moon's wane, of waters bringing forth all manners of organisms necessary for developments in the plane. Then, we have the gathering together then of this group, from the farthest places - forty and four (44). As we see, [this number] will run through many numbers, for, as we find, there is the law pertaining to each and every element significant to man's existence considered and given in one manner or form by the groups as gathered at this meeting. We are through for the present.

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Have you finished with this reading.

We have given that as asked. We are through with these - for the present.

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(Q): Have you finished with this reading. (A): We have given that as asked. We are through with these - for the present.

You will have before you the reading given on the psychic work of Edgar Cayce, present in this room, on the morning of 6/1/25, and you will continue with this reading regarding the information of the first laws concerning man's relation to the Higher Forces, giving this in an outline manner and how this was given to the people.

Yes, we have these here and the conditions surrounding same. As these were gathered in their tents and caves, each were given the portion of the fact as related to each group's conception regarding man's supremacy over the animal world, and how same was reached. As these were given, we find that each gave that conception in the way that was in relation to man's surroundings in the earth plane, so in this manner were the first laws as relating to the indwelling of the Higher Forces given to man. With the absence of the communications as is given, this was written on tables of stone and slate, with the characters of same. In the first of the pyramids built in the Valley of the Shadow, there still may be found unto this day portions of data as was preserved with the ruler, who afterward was worshiped as the representative of God made manifest in earth. These will be found in the northwest corner or chamber of this mound. As to the peoples as gathered there, we find there are many in the plane today, many that have become associated one with the other, and there comes then the urge for the return of man's more perfect understanding of the divine laws as have been made manifest through the various ages of evolution of man in the plane from that day, and the indwelling forces will be of assistance in gathering such together.

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Are the deductions and conclusions arrived at by D. Davidson and H. Aldersmith in their book on The Great Pyramid correct?

Many of these that have been taken as deductions are correct. Many are far overdrawn. Only an initiate may understand.

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(Q): Are the deductions and conclusions arrived at by D. Davidson and H. Aldersmith in their book on The Great Pyramid correct? (A): Many of these that have been taken as deductions are correct. Many are far overdrawn. Only an initiate may understand.

Do you mean there will be an upheaval in '36 as recorded in the pyramid?

As recorded in the pyramid, though this is set for a correction, which, as has been given, is between '32 AND '38 - the correction would be, for this - as seen - is '36 - for it is in many - these run from specific days; for, as has been seen, there are periods when even the hour, day, year, place, country, nation, town, and individuals are pointed out. That's how correct are many of those prophecies as made. Oft may there be changes that bring periods, as seen in that period when there was an alteration in that initiate in the land of Zu and Ra that BROUGHT a change, but at a different point because of being driven by those that were set as the guides or guards of same. In this same pyramid did the Great Initiate, the Master, take those last of the Brotherhood degrees with John, the forerunner of Him, at that place. As is indicated in that period where entrance is shown to be in that land that was set apart, as that promised to that peculiar peoples, as were rejected - as is shown in that portion when there is the turning back from the raising up of Xerxes as the deliverer from an unknown tongue or land, and again is there seen that this occurs in the entrance of the Messiah in this period - 1998.

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(Q): Are the deductions and conclusions arrived at by D. Davidson and H. Aldersmith in their book on The Great Pyramid correct? (A): Many of these that have been taken as deductions are correct. Many are far overdrawn. Only an initiate may understand. (Q): Do you mean there will be an upheaval in '36 as recorded in the pyramid? (A): As recorded in the pyramid, though this is set for a correction, which, as has been given, is between '32 AND '38 - the correction would be, for this - as seen - is '36 - for it is in many - these run from specific days; for, as has been seen, there are periods when even the hour, day, year, place, country, nation, town, and individuals are pointed out. That's how correct are many of those prophecies as made. Oft may there be changes that bring periods, as seen in that period when there was an alteration in that initiate in the land of Zu and Ra that BROUGHT a change, but at a different point because of being driven by those that were set as the guides or guards of same. In this same pyramid did the Great Initiate, the Master, take those last of the Brotherhood degrees with John, the forerunner of Him, at that place. As is indicated in that period where entrance is shown to be in that land that was set apart, as that promised to that peculiar peoples, as were rejected - as is shown in that portion when there is the turning back from the raising up of Xerxes as the deliverer from an unknown tongue or land, and again is there seen that this occurs in the entrance of the Messiah in this period - 1998.

What corrections for the period of the 20th century?

Only those that there will be an upheaval in '36.

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(Q): Are the deductions and conclusions arrived at by D. Davidson and H. Aldersmith in their book on The Great Pyramid correct? (A): Many of these that have been taken as deductions are correct. Many are far overdrawn. Only an initiate may understand. (Q): Do you mean there will be an upheaval in '36 as recorded in the pyramid? (A): As recorded in the pyramid, though this is set for a correction, which, as has been given, is between '32 AND '38 - the correction would be, for this - as seen - is '36 - for it is in many - these run from specific days; for, as has been seen, there are periods when even the hour, day, year, place, country, nation, town, and individuals are pointed out. That's how correct are many of those prophecies as made. Oft may there be changes that bring periods, as seen in that period when there was an alteration in that initiate in the land of Zu and Ra that BROUGHT a change, but at a different point because of being driven by those that were set as the guides or guards of same. In this same pyramid did the Great Initiate, the Master, take those last of the Brotherhood degrees with John, the forerunner of Him, at that place. As is indicated in that period where entrance is shown to be in that land that was set apart, as that promised to that peculiar peoples, as were rejected - as is shown in that portion when there is the turning back from the raising up of Xerxes as the deliverer from an unknown tongue or land, and again is there seen that this occurs in the entrance of the Messiah in this period - 1998. (Q): What corrections for the period of the 20th century? (A): Only those that there will be an upheaval in '36.

You will please give at this time detailed information regarding the origin, purpose and prophecies of the Great Pyramid of Gizeh near Cairo, Egypt. Please answer the questions asked.

Yes. In the information as respecting the pyramids, their purpose in the experience of the peoples, in the period when there was the rebuilding of the priest during the return in the land, some 10,500 before the coming of the Christ into the land, there was first that attempt to restore and to add to that which had been begun on what is called the Sphinx, and the treasure or storehouse facing same, between this and the Nile, in which those records were kept by Arart and Araaraart in the period. Then, with Hermes and Ra (those that assumed or took up the work of Araaraart) there began the building of that now called Gizeh, with which those prophecies that had been in the Temple of Records and the Temple Beautiful were builded, in the building of this that was to be the hall of the initiates of that sometimes referred to as the White Brotherhood. This, then, receives all the records from the beginnings of that given by the priest, Arart, Araaraart and Ra, to that period when there is to be the change in the earth's position and the return of the Great Initiate to that and other lands for the folding up of those prophecies that are depicted there. All changes that came in the religious thought in the world are shown there, in the variations in which the passage through same is reached, from the base to the top - or to the open tomb AND the top. These are signified by both the layer and the color in what direction the turn is made. This, then, is the purpose for the record and the meaning to be interpreted by those that have come and do come as the teachers of the various periods, in the experience of this present position, of the activity of the spheres, of the earth. In the period that is to come, this ends - as to that point which is between what is termed in chronological time in present - between 1950 and '58, but there have been portions that have been removed by those that desecrated many of those other records in the same land. This was rejected by that Pharaoh who hindered in the peoples leaving the land.

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Give suggestions.

[See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing.

How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built?

By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963].

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963].

If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending.

Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth.

If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time?

This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity.

Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded?

Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity. (Q): Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded? (A): Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid.

What are the correct interpretations of the indications in the Great Pyramid regarding the time when the present depression will end?

The changes as indicated and outlined are for the latter part of the present year [1932]. As far as depression is concerned, this is not - as in the minds of many - because fear has arisen, but rather that, when fear has arisen in the hearts of the created, SIN lieth at the door. Then, the change will occur - or that seeking will make the definite change - in the latter portion of the present year. Not that times financially will be better, but the minds of the people will be fitted to the conditions better.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity. (Q): Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded? (A): Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid. (Q): What are the correct interpretations of the indications in the Great Pyramid regarding the time when the present depression will end? (A): The changes as indicated and outlined are for the latter part of the present year [1932]. As far as depression is concerned, this is not - as in the minds of many - because fear has arisen, but rather that, when fear has arisen in the hearts of the created, SIN lieth at the door. Then, the change will occur - or that seeking will make the definite change - in the latter portion of the present year. Not that times financially will be better, but the minds of the people will be fitted to the conditions better.

What definite details are indicated as to what will happen after we enter the period of the King's Chamber?

When the bridegroom is at hand, all do rejoice. When we enter that understanding of being in the King's presence, with that of the mental seeking, the joy, the buoyancy, the new understanding, the new life, through the period.

5749-0001

(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity. (Q): Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded? (A): Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid. (Q): What are the correct interpretations of the indications in the Great Pyramid regarding the time when the present depression will end? (A): The changes as indicated and outlined are for the latter part of the present year [1932]. As far as depression is concerned, this is not - as in the minds of many - because fear has arisen, but rather that, when fear has arisen in the hearts of the created, SIN lieth at the door. Then, the change will occur - or that seeking will make the definite change - in the latter portion of the present year. Not that times financially will be better, but the minds of the people will be fitted to the conditions better. (Q): What definite details are indicated as to what will happen after we enter the period of the King's Chamber? (A): When the bridegroom is at hand, all do rejoice. When we enter that understanding of being in the King's presence, with that of the mental seeking, the joy, the buoyancy, the new understanding, the new life, through the period.

What is the date, as recorded by the Pyramid, of entering in the King's Chamber?

'38 to '58.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity. (Q): Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded? (A): Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid. (Q): What are the correct interpretations of the indications in the Great Pyramid regarding the time when the present depression will end? (A): The changes as indicated and outlined are for the latter part of the present year [1932]. As far as depression is concerned, this is not - as in the minds of many - because fear has arisen, but rather that, when fear has arisen in the hearts of the created, SIN lieth at the door. Then, the change will occur - or that seeking will make the definite change - in the latter portion of the present year. Not that times financially will be better, but the minds of the people will be fitted to the conditions better. (Q): What definite details are indicated as to what will happen after we enter the period of the King's Chamber? (A): When the bridegroom is at hand, all do rejoice. When we enter that understanding of being in the King's presence, with that of the mental seeking, the joy, the buoyancy, the new understanding, the new life, through the period. (Q): What is the date, as recorded by the Pyramid, of entering in the King's Chamber? (A): '38 to '58.

What is the significance of the character of the figure of the Sphinx, mentioned above?

In this particular period of Araaraart and of the priest (that began those understandings - and passed through those of the hell in the misinterpretation of same), there was even then the seeking through those channels that are today called archaeological research. In those periods when the first change had come in the position of the land, there had been an egress of peoples - or THINGS, as would be called today - from the Atlantean land, when the Nile (of Nole, then) emptied into what is now the Atlantic Ocean, on the Congo end of the country. What is now as the Sahara was a fertile land, a city that was builded in the edge of the land, a city of those that worshipped the sun - for the use of its rays were used for supplying from the elements that which is required in the present to be grown through a season; or the abilities to use both those of introgression and retrogression - and mostly retrograded, as we are in the present. The beginnings of these mounds were as an interpretation of that which was crustating in the land. (See, most of the people had tails then!) In those beginnings these were left. When there was the entrance of Arart and Araaraart, they begin to build upon those mounds which were discovered through research. With the storehouse, or record house (where the records are still to be uncovered), there is a chamber or passage from the right forepaw to this entrance of the record chamber, or record tomb. This may not be entered without an understanding, for those that were left as guards may NOT be passed until after a period of their regeneration in the Mount, or the fifth root race begins. In the building of the pyramid, and that which is now called the Mystery of Mysteries, this was intended to be a MEMORIAL - as would be termed today - to that counsellor who ruled or governed, or who acted in the capacity of the director in the MATERIAL things in the land. With the return of the priest (as it had been stopped), this was later - by Isis, the queen, or the daughter of Ra - turned so as to present to those peoples in that land the relationships of man and the animal or carnal world with those changes that fade or fall away in their various effect. These may be seen in a different manner presented in many of the various sphinxes, as called, in other portions of the land - as the lion with the man, the various forms of wing, or characterizations in their various developments. These were as presentations of those projections that had been handed down in their various developments of that which becomes man - as in the present. We are through.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity. (Q): Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded? (A): Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid. (Q): What are the correct interpretations of the indications in the Great Pyramid regarding the time when the present depression will end? (A): The changes as indicated and outlined are for the latter part of the present year [1932]. As far as depression is concerned, this is not - as in the minds of many - because fear has arisen, but rather that, when fear has arisen in the hearts of the created, SIN lieth at the door. Then, the change will occur - or that seeking will make the definite change - in the latter portion of the present year. Not that times financially will be better, but the minds of the people will be fitted to the conditions better. (Q): What definite details are indicated as to what will happen after we enter the period of the King's Chamber? (A): When the bridegroom is at hand, all do rejoice. When we enter that understanding of being in the King's presence, with that of the mental seeking, the joy, the buoyancy, the new understanding, the new life, through the period. (Q): What is the date, as recorded by the Pyramid, of entering in the King's Chamber? (A): '38 to '58. (Q): What is the significance of the character of the figure of the Sphinx, mentioned above? (A): In this particular period of Araaraart and of the priest (that began those understandings - and passed through those of the hell in the misinterpretation of same), there was even then the seeking through those channels that are today called archaeological research. In those periods when the first change had come in the position of the land, there had been an egress of peoples - or THINGS, as would be called today - from the Atlantean land, when the Nile (of Nole, then) emptied into what is now the Atlantic Ocean, on the Congo end of the country. What is now as the Sahara was a fertile land, a city that was builded in the edge of the land, a city of those that worshipped the sun - for the use of its rays were used for supplying from the elements that which is required in the present to be grown through a season; or the abilities to use both those of introgression and retrogression - and mostly retrograded, as we are in the present. The beginnings of these mounds were as an interpretation of that which was crustating in the land. (See, most of the people had tails then!) In those beginnings these were left. When there was the entrance of Arart and Araaraart, they begin to build upon those mounds which were discovered through research. With the storehouse, or record house (where the records are still to be uncovered), there is a chamber or passage from the right forepaw to this entrance of the record chamber, or record tomb. This may not be entered without an understanding, for those that were left as guards may NOT be passed until after a period of their regeneration in the Mount, or the fifth root race begins. In the building of the pyramid, and that which is now called the Mystery of Mysteries, this was intended to be a MEMORIAL - as would be termed today - to that counsellor who ruled or governed, or who acted in the capacity of the director in the MATERIAL things in the land. With the return of the priest (as it had been stopped), this was later - by Isis, the queen, or the daughter of Ra - turned so as to present to those peoples in that land the relationships of man and the animal or carnal world with those changes that fade or fall away in their various effect. These may be seen in a different manner presented in many of the various sphinxes, as called, in other portions of the land - as the lion with the man, the various forms of wing, or characterizations in their various developments. These were as presentations of those projections that had been handed down in their various developments of that which becomes man - as in the present. We are through.

What is the significance of the empty sarcophagus?

That there will be no more death. Don't misunderstand or misinterpret! but the INTERPRETATION of death will be made plain.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity. (Q): Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded? (A): Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid. (Q): What are the correct interpretations of the indications in the Great Pyramid regarding the time when the present depression will end? (A): The changes as indicated and outlined are for the latter part of the present year [1932]. As far as depression is concerned, this is not - as in the minds of many - because fear has arisen, but rather that, when fear has arisen in the hearts of the created, SIN lieth at the door. Then, the change will occur - or that seeking will make the definite change - in the latter portion of the present year. Not that times financially will be better, but the minds of the people will be fitted to the conditions better. (Q): What definite details are indicated as to what will happen after we enter the period of the King's Chamber? (A): When the bridegroom is at hand, all do rejoice. When we enter that understanding of being in the King's presence, with that of the mental seeking, the joy, the buoyancy, the new understanding, the new life, through the period. (Q): What is the date, as recorded by the Pyramid, of entering in the King's Chamber? (A): '38 to '58. (Q): What is the significance of the character of the figure of the Sphinx, mentioned above? (A): In this particular period of Araaraart and of the priest (that began those understandings - and passed through those of the hell in the misinterpretation of same), there was even then the seeking through those channels that are today called archaeological research. In those periods when the first change had come in the position of the land, there had been an egress of peoples - or THINGS, as would be called today - from the Atlantean land, when the Nile (of Nole, then) emptied into what is now the Atlantic Ocean, on the Congo end of the country. What is now as the Sahara was a fertile land, a city that was builded in the edge of the land, a city of those that worshipped the sun - for the use of its rays were used for supplying from the elements that which is required in the present to be grown through a season; or the abilities to use both those of introgression and retrogression - and mostly retrograded, as we are in the present. The beginnings of these mounds were as an interpretation of that which was crustating in the land. (See, most of the people had tails then!) In those beginnings these were left. When there was the entrance of Arart and Araaraart, they begin to build upon those mounds which were discovered through research. With the storehouse, or record house (where the records are still to be uncovered), there is a chamber or passage from the right forepaw to this entrance of the record chamber, or record tomb. This may not be entered without an understanding, for those that were left as guards may NOT be passed until after a period of their regeneration in the Mount, or the fifth root race begins. In the building of the pyramid, and that which is now called the Mystery of Mysteries, this was intended to be a MEMORIAL - as would be termed today - to that counsellor who ruled or governed, or who acted in the capacity of the director in the MATERIAL things in the land. With the return of the priest (as it had been stopped), this was later - by Isis, the queen, or the daughter of Ra - turned so as to present to those peoples in that land the relationships of man and the animal or carnal world with those changes that fade or fall away in their various effect. These may be seen in a different manner presented in many of the various sphinxes, as called, in other portions of the land - as the lion with the man, the various forms of wing, or characterizations in their various developments. These were as presentations of those projections that had been handed down in their various developments of that which becomes man - as in the present. We are through. (Q): What is the significance of the empty sarcophagus? (A): That there will be no more death. Don't misunderstand or misinterpret! but the INTERPRETATION of death will be made plain.

What was the date B.C. of that period?

10,490 to 10,390 before the Prince entered into Egypt.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity. (Q): Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded? (A): Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid. (Q): What are the correct interpretations of the indications in the Great Pyramid regarding the time when the present depression will end? (A): The changes as indicated and outlined are for the latter part of the present year [1932]. As far as depression is concerned, this is not - as in the minds of many - because fear has arisen, but rather that, when fear has arisen in the hearts of the created, SIN lieth at the door. Then, the change will occur - or that seeking will make the definite change - in the latter portion of the present year. Not that times financially will be better, but the minds of the people will be fitted to the conditions better. (Q): What definite details are indicated as to what will happen after we enter the period of the King's Chamber? (A): When the bridegroom is at hand, all do rejoice. When we enter that understanding of being in the King's presence, with that of the mental seeking, the joy, the buoyancy, the new understanding, the new life, through the period. (Q): What is the date, as recorded by the Pyramid, of entering in the King's Chamber? (A): '38 to '58. (Q): What is the significance of the character of the figure of the Sphinx, mentioned above? (A): In this particular period of Araaraart and of the priest (that began those understandings - and passed through those of the hell in the misinterpretation of same), there was even then the seeking through those channels that are today called archaeological research. In those periods when the first change had come in the position of the land, there had been an egress of peoples - or THINGS, as would be called today - from the Atlantean land, when the Nile (of Nole, then) emptied into what is now the Atlantic Ocean, on the Congo end of the country. What is now as the Sahara was a fertile land, a city that was builded in the edge of the land, a city of those that worshipped the sun - for the use of its rays were used for supplying from the elements that which is required in the present to be grown through a season; or the abilities to use both those of introgression and retrogression - and mostly retrograded, as we are in the present. The beginnings of these mounds were as an interpretation of that which was crustating in the land. (See, most of the people had tails then!) In those beginnings these were left. When there was the entrance of Arart and Araaraart, they begin to build upon those mounds which were discovered through research. With the storehouse, or record house (where the records are still to be uncovered), there is a chamber or passage from the right forepaw to this entrance of the record chamber, or record tomb. This may not be entered without an understanding, for those that were left as guards may NOT be passed until after a period of their regeneration in the Mount, or the fifth root race begins. In the building of the pyramid, and that which is now called the Mystery of Mysteries, this was intended to be a MEMORIAL - as would be termed today - to that counsellor who ruled or governed, or who acted in the capacity of the director in the MATERIAL things in the land. With the return of the priest (as it had been stopped), this was later - by Isis, the queen, or the daughter of Ra - turned so as to present to those peoples in that land the relationships of man and the animal or carnal world with those changes that fade or fall away in their various effect. These may be seen in a different manner presented in many of the various sphinxes, as called, in other portions of the land - as the lion with the man, the various forms of wing, or characterizations in their various developments. These were as presentations of those projections that had been handed down in their various developments of that which becomes man - as in the present. We are through. (Q): What is the significance of the empty sarcophagus? (A): That there will be no more death. Don't misunderstand or misinterpret! but the INTERPRETATION of death will be made plain. (Q): What was the date B.C. of that period? (A): 10,490 to 10,390 before the Prince entered into Egypt.

What was the date of the actual beginning and ending of the construction of the Great Pyramid?

Was one hundred years in construction. Begun and completed in the period of Araaraart's time, with Hermes and Ra.

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(Q): Give suggestions. (A): [See 5748-6, Par. B1.] Much has been written respecting that represented in the Great Pyramid, and the record that may be read by those who would seek to know more concerning the relationships that have existed, that may exist, that do exist, between those of the Creative Forces that are manifest in the material world. As indicated, there were periods when a much closer relationship existed, or rather should it be said, there was a much better understanding OF the relationship that EXISTS between the creature and the Creator. In those conditions that are signified in the way through the pyramid, as of periods through which the world has passed and is passing, as related to the religious or the spiritual experiences of man - the period of the present is represented by the low passage or depression showing a downward tendency, as indicated by the variations in the character of stone used. This might be termed in the present as the Cruciatarian Age [?]*, or that in which preparations are being made for the beginning of a new sub-race, or a change, which - as indicated from the astronomical or numerical conditions - dates from the latter portion or middle portion of the present fall [1932]. In October there will be a period in which the benevolent influences of Jupiter and Uranus will be stronger, which - from an astrological viewpoint - will bring a greater interest in occult or mystic influences. * [From Webster's Standard Dictionary of obsolete words: cruciat: a crusade; also, a papal bull sanctioning a crusade or privileging participants in it; cruciatory torturing; tormenting.] At the correct time accurate imaginary lines can be drawn from the opening of the great Pyramid to the second star in the Great Dipper, called Polaris or the North Star. This indicates it is the system toward which the soul takes it flight after having completed its sojourn through this solar system. In October there will be seen the first variation in the position of the polar star in relation to the lines from the Great Pyramid. The dipper is gradually changing, and when this change becomes noticeable - as might be calculated from the Pyramid - there will be the beginning of the change in the races. There will come a greater influx of souls from the Atlantean, Lemurian, La, Ur or Da civilizations. These conditions are indicated in this turn in the journey through the pyramid. How was this begun? Who was given that this should be a record of man's experiences in this root race? for that is the period covered by the prophecies in the pyramid. This was given to Ra and Hermes in that period during the reign of Araaraart when there were many who sought to bring to man a better understanding of the close relationship between the Creative Forces and that created, between man and man, and man and his Maker. Only those who have been called may truly understand. Who then has been called? Whosoever will make himself a channel may be raised to that of a blessing that is all that entity-body is able to comprehend. Who, having his whole measure full, would desire more does so to his own undoing. (Q): How was this particular Great Pyramid of Gizeh built? (A): By the use of those forces in nature as make for iron to swim. Stone floats in the air in the same manner. This will be discovered in '58 [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report pages 33-34, E.C.F. 1963]. (Q): If the Armageddon is foretold in the Great Pyramid, please give a description of it and the date of its beginning and ending. (A): Not in what is left there. It will be as a thousand years, with the fighting in the air, and - as has been - between those returning to and those leaving the earth. (Q): If the Passion of Jesus is recorded in the Great Pyramid, please give the date according to our present system of recording time? (A): This has already been presented in a fair and equitable manner through those students of same, and these descriptions have been presented as to their authenticity. (Q): Is there not a verse of scripture in Isaiah mentioning the rock on which the great pyramid is builded? (A): Not as we find; rather the rock on which John VIEWED the New Jerusalem - that is, as of the entering in the King's Chamber in the Pyramid. (Q): What are the correct interpretations of the indications in the Great Pyramid regarding the time when the present depression will end? (A): The changes as indicated and outlined are for the latter part of the present year [1932]. As far as depression is concerned, this is not - as in the minds of many - because fear has arisen, but rather that, when fear has arisen in the hearts of the created, SIN lieth at the door. Then, the change will occur - or that seeking will make the definite change - in the latter portion of the present year. Not that times financially will be better, but the minds of the people will be fitted to the conditions better. (Q): What definite details are indicated as to what will happen after we enter the period of the King's Chamber? (A): When the bridegroom is at hand, all do rejoice. When we enter that understanding of being in the King's presence, with that of the mental seeking, the joy, the buoyancy, the new understanding, the new life, through the period. (Q): What is the date, as recorded by the Pyramid, of entering in the King's Chamber? (A): '38 to '58. (Q): What is the significance of the character of the figure of the Sphinx, mentioned above? (A): In this particular period of Araaraart and of the priest (that began those understandings - and passed through those of the hell in the misinterpretation of same), there was even then the seeking through those channels that are today called archaeological research. In those periods when the first change had come in the position of the land, there had been an egress of peoples - or THINGS, as would be called today - from the Atlantean land, when the Nile (of Nole, then) emptied into what is now the Atlantic Ocean, on the Congo end of the country. What is now as the Sahara was a fertile land, a city that was builded in the edge of the land, a city of those that worshipped the sun - for the use of its rays were used for supplying from the elements that which is required in the present to be grown through a season; or the abilities to use both those of introgression and retrogression - and mostly retrograded, as we are in the present. The beginnings of these mounds were as an interpretation of that which was crustating in the land. (See, most of the people had tails then!) In those beginnings these were left. When there was the entrance of Arart and Araaraart, they begin to build upon those mounds which were discovered through research. With the storehouse, or record house (where the records are still to be uncovered), there is a chamber or passage from the right forepaw to this entrance of the record chamber, or record tomb. This may not be entered without an understanding, for those that were left as guards may NOT be passed until after a period of their regeneration in the Mount, or the fifth root race begins. In the building of the pyramid, and that which is now called the Mystery of Mysteries, this was intended to be a MEMORIAL - as would be termed today - to that counsellor who ruled or governed, or who acted in the capacity of the director in the MATERIAL things in the land. With the return of the priest (as it had been stopped), this was later - by Isis, the queen, or the daughter of Ra - turned so as to present to those peoples in that land the relationships of man and the animal or carnal world with those changes that fade or fall away in their various effect. These may be seen in a different manner presented in many of the various sphinxes, as called, in other portions of the land - as the lion with the man, the various forms of wing, or characterizations in their various developments. These were as presentations of those projections that had been handed down in their various developments of that which becomes man - as in the present. We are through. (Q): What is the significance of the empty sarcophagus? (A): That there will be no more death. Don't misunderstand or misinterpret! but the INTERPRETATION of death will be made plain. (Q): What was the date B.C. of that period? (A): 10,490 to 10,390 before the Prince entered into Egypt. (Q): What was the date of the actual beginning and ending of the construction of the Great Pyramid? (A): Was one hundred years in construction. Begun and completed in the period of Araaraart's time, with Hermes and Ra.

What will be the type and extent of the upheaval in '36?

The wars, the upheavals in the interior of the earth, and the shifting of same by the differentiation in the axis as respecting the positions from the Polaris center [See EARTH CHANGES booklet report, p. 30, published by E.C.F. in 1963].

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Give suggestions.

The Lord's Supper - here with the Master - see what they had for supper - boiled fish, rice, with leeks, wine, and loaf. One of the pitchers in which it was served was broken - the handle was broken, as was the lip to same. The whole robe of the Master was not white, but pearl gray - all combined into one - the gift of Nicodemus to the Lord. The better looking of the twelve, of course, was Judas, while the younger was John - oval face, dark hair, smooth face - only one with the short hair. Peter, the rough and ready - always that of very short beard, rough, and not altogether clean; while Andrew's is just the opposite - very sparse, but inclined to be long more on the side and under the chin - long on the upper lip - his robe was always near gray or black, while his clouts or breeches were striped; while those of Philip and Bartholomew were red and brown. The Master's hair is 'most red, inclined to be curly in portions, yet not feminine or weak - STRONG, with heavy piercing eyes that are blue or steel-gray. His weight would be at least a hundred and seventy pounds. Long tapering fingers, nails well kept. Long nail, though, on the left little finger. Merry - even in the hour of trial. Joke - even in the moment of betrayal. The sack is empty. Judas departs. The last is given of the wine and loaf, with which He gives the emblems that should be so dear to every follower of Him. Lays aside His robe, which is all of one piece - girds the towel about His waist, which is dressed with linen that is blue and white. Rolls back the folds, kneels first before John, James, then to Peter - who refuses. Then the dissertation as to `He that would be the greatest would be servant of all.` The basin is taken as without handle, and is made of wood. The water is from the gherkins [gourds], that are in the wide-mouth Shibboleths [streams? Judges 12:6], that stand in the house of John's father, Zebedee. And now comes `It is finished.` They sing the ninety-first Psalm - `He that dwelleth in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in Him will I trust.` He is the musician as well, for He uses the harp. They leave for the garden.

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Any message to the group gathered here?

In that ye seek to know the manner of preparation of Him that would be your guide, seek also to prepare YOURSELVES to be His subjects with that same diligence as that which has prompted the seeking here. We are through.

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(Q): Any message to the group gathered here? (A): In that ye seek to know the manner of preparation of Him that would be your guide, seek also to prepare YOURSELVES to be His subjects with that same diligence as that which has prompted the seeking here. We are through.

Are there any written records which have not been found of the teachings?

More, rather, of those of the close associates, and those records that are yet to be found of the preparation of the man, of the Christ, in those of the tomb, or those yet to be uncovered in the pyramid.

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(Q): Any message to the group gathered here? (A): In that ye seek to know the manner of preparation of Him that would be your guide, seek also to prepare YOURSELVES to be His subjects with that same diligence as that which has prompted the seeking here. We are through. (Q): Are there any written records which have not been found of the teachings? (A): More, rather, of those of the close associates, and those records that are yet to be found of the preparation of the man, of the Christ, in those of the tomb, or those yet to be uncovered in the pyramid.

Are we entering the period of preparation for His coming?

Entering the test period, rather.

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