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[S1] And remember, as well has nothing to do with the word well. It simply means also too, in addition. Let's listen to how Ashley used fly in. She used it in the past tense. [S2] Australia was a very quick trip. We flew in overnight. [S1] She said, "We flew in overnight." And to fly in means to arrive by airplane. "We flew in at 7 a.m."
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[S1] I want to know what, what are the things I could have done better. [S2] But the main problem that you were having is stressing the wrong part of the sentence. For example, when you said, "I had to play ball," you said, "I had to play ball," instead of, "I had to play ball." [S1] Yeah. [S2] So stress the ball. Or for example, there was one, you said, "I got on the plane." [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] And that sounds maybe overly emotional. "I got on the plane." Just, "I got on the plane." [S1] I got on the plane. [S2] There you go. [S1] I got on the plane. [S2] Either keep, got and plane, same. [S1] I got on the plane.
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[S1] Right, or stress playing a little bit more, but you kind of went up, I got on the plane. [S2] I got on the plane. [S1] Right. [S2] That's a completely different intention. It, it makes, yeah. [S1] Yeah. [S2] It makes me sound that I'm trying to say something else. [S1] Yeah. Yeah. And then the other one was when you said, "I tried to call you." You said, "I tried to call you." That sounds very intense. [S2] You see-
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[S1] See, I, I think this kind of goes with what I just said. When I said I, the two critics that I had for me was I would have loved to play that woman in a more rational way than emotional. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And, and, and, and what you're saying now kind of explained to me or, or confirms my doubts because I tried to call you. [S2] Yes. [S1] It's so- [S2] So emotional. [S1] ... emotional. And I tried to call you. [S2] That's right. So- [S1] It's more rational.
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[S1] Yes. [S2] It's the accent. For example, the other line that you had in that script was, it was, "They ordered another drink." You tell me what I mean. "They ordered another drink. They ordered another drink." [S1] Hmm. [S2] One, the second one was, "Oh, we're just having a good time. We ordered another drink." The first one was, "They were getting drunk and then they ordered another drink." [S1] Hmm. [S2] So the meaning completely changed. And if you're acting, and if you stressed the wrong word,
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[S1] They might, people might- [S2] I change the story. [S1] You change the story. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So pay attention to that. [S2] Yeah. [S1] That's, I would say, number one thing for you, look at the lines- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... analyze them, analyze what is the true meaning, and then assume that for you, it may not be in the beginning of the word. Sometimes it is, but I would say usually it's not.
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[S1] When people speak too quickly, first of all, it's hard to understand them, but it also gives the feeling that they're rushing through their content and they just want to get off of there as quickly as possible. It doesn't really communicate a lot of confidence. [S2] So they seem nervous, right? [S1] Yes. They seem a little bit nervous, a little bit jittery, like they just want to get it over with. [S2] Okay, so to appear more confident, it's better to slow down. [S1] You slow down a little bit, and then it sounds like you're composed and you're comfortable with who you are.
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[S1] Some of the people in the back room might have a little trouble hearing me because maybe the air conditioning is on or somebody outside is mowing the lawn. So I speak up to reach that back row really well. If it's a smaller room, like a smaller meeting size with eight or 10 people, then a volume that's a little bit above a conversational volume is usually just fine. [S2] So above a conversational volume. [S1] Typically above a conversational volume when you're speaking to a group, even if it's a small group.
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[S1] going up a few clicks on the dial will make all the difference. [S2] That's a fantastic tip. That's really practical and it gives you an image in your mind. [S1] Yeah, it, most people under, they think they're speaking much more loudly than they are.
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[S1] You'll just come across that way. But I, I do think there's something interesting that happens. When I stand, as if I'm confident, it starts to convince me that I am confident. I start to feel better about my message. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And then I do gain actual confidence as I go. [S2] That's great. I love that tip. It sounds like you're saying, don't analyze how you're feeling. Don't worry about it. Just do it. [S1] That's right. [S2] Uh, show up, be in that posture, and people will think you're confident.
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[S1] Absolutely. When you're nervous on a date, you tend to do all the nervous behaviors. You don't make good eye contact. You might even put your hands on your lap instead of on the table, and you orient your body away from the person instead of toward the person. That's what nervousness looks like, whether you're on the platform or whether you're on a date. [S2] Why don't we get this training in high school? It would really help us in our lives. [S1] Yeah, I agree.
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[S1] Sure. The, the number one way I have seen messages organized in professional settings is the classic introduction, body, and conclusion. And this is the way American students learn to write their essays in college. In the introduction, you- [S2] Okay. [S1] ... set your message up. You tell them what you're going to tell them, as they say. And then in the body, you might have three points or so, and that's where you tell them,
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[S1] Those are fantastic tips. And I want everyone to go to Alex's channel. I think you'll really benefit a lot from his other tips about how to be an effective communicator, how to be aware of your body language, how to be aware of your voice, eye contact. Which video do you recommend that people watch next on your channel? [S2] I put up a video a few weeks ago called How to Speak Up with Confidence in Group Meetings, and I think that's a great next step for your viewers. [S1] Can you tell us the meaning of speak up?
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[S1] Okay, so to speak up is to contribute in a group environment. [S2] Correct. [S1] Okay, that's a really important one. I know that my students will definitely benefit from that one because when English is not your native language, you are so nervous about speaking up, especially if you think everyone else in the room is more fluent than you are. So, make sure you guys watch that video. It's linked below in the description of this video. Alex, these tips were really useful. Thank you so much for your time. [S2] Thank you, Lisa.
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[S1] Alex said they seem jittery, like they just want to get it over with. [S2] Like they just want to get it over with. [S1] To get it over with means to finish it, to stop doing it. Sometimes when people are giving a presentation, they look like they just want to get it over with. They want to go back and sit down and not be up there anymore. But fortunately, with Alex's tips, you're not going to look that way. You don't have to look jittery, even if you feel jittery inside.
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[S1] I found a large international agency that wanted to intern. I started as an intern and moved my way up into more glamorous brands and more glamorous work. You don't start at the top, but you've got to work there over time. [S2] Was your bachelor's degree in... [S1] Journalism. [S2] Journalism. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] So you're a good writer.
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[S1] A journalist needs to be on deadline. We use the preposition on, being on deadline. [S2] Being on deadline and things that I was really strong at. [S1] And that means finishing a job on time. Journalists are always working on deadline. Does your job require you to be on deadline? With the next expression, we need to use the preposition at. A lot of my students make a mistake on this one and they use a different preposition.
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[S1] We say, "To be strong at something," or, "To be good at something." For example, you can say, "He is good at math." Be careful about this one. It's a common mistake where people say "in" or "on" instead of "at." So you can ask someone, "What are you good at?" Or, "What skills are you strong at?" [S2] Being on deadline and things that I was really strong at. [S1] Listen to the way he used the expression, "Moved my way up."
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[S1] Okay. [S2] So basically, you know, I, I have almost 50 hours of accrued PTO and they're gonna be, um, you know, if I cash that in, that's as much as I can get on that. Uh, so it just depends on how long this whole thing lasts. I can file for unemployment, um, which unemployment is gonna pay, you know, I, I believe like, you know, an, like roughly what you make, uh, in a week. They'll be sending you maybe like 500 bucks or something, 400 bucks a week. Um, and- [S1] That's not that much. [S2] Not, not that much, no.
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[S1] Let's see this guy. Check out this guy. [S2] Oh, yeah. [S1] I said, check out this guy. To check out is to look at, to observe, to notice something that's happening. You can say, check out that car, or check out that beautiful sunset. Or simply, check it out. Look at it. Let's see this guy. Check out this guy.
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[S1] It's only happened twice. [S2] It has? [S1] In the number of years that I was on, uh, the iPhone. Yeah, one, one guy was a banker and one guy was a, uh, a waiter. And I just said, uh, "You guys are in the wrong profession. You need to do something in audio because, you know, no one recognizes the boy be- voice." Because first of all, they don't expect to hear the Siri voice coming out of a human. [S2] That's right. Can you say a few sentences in the Siri voice?
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[S1] It's always best for the talent to be as professional and as accurate as possible, and to be as quick as possible. You know, be- [S2] What do you mean by quick? [S1] Well, being able to read the, you know, not making a bunch of mistakes on one particular sentence, or being able to read a whole paragraph and, and the only, quote, mistake or different sound that you'll be making is taking a breath, you know. [S2] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] You know, you can just say consonant. [S2] Right. [S1] You know, they just... You know, once again, it's just practicing. And one way for your kids to practice is most things that are written to be read aloud are written correctly, which is short sentences. [S2] Oh, good point. [S1] If you pick up a magazine or a book and you try to read those aloud,
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[S1] Oh, my goodness. What did that do? [S2] It just opens everything up. [S1] Okay. [S2] And, and also sends you from the top to the bottom of your vocal range. [S1] Right. Okay. [S2] And so it, once, once again, it just opens things up and, uh, yeah, and, and also makes you more comfortable. Plus, it's really silly. And it's a, that would be another way to sort of calm yourself down if you're preparing for, to read aloud or do an interview.
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[S1] And I enjoyed doing all those different voices and all those different types of, of work. And I suspected that if the Siri thing took off, that, you know, suddenly I would just be doing narrations and messages and stuff like that. And that's pretty much what's happened. But- [S2] Oh, okay. [S1] Uh, Siri also gave me a whole brand new career very late in my life, which is a public speaker, something I never, ever would've imagined.
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[S1] If something is ubiquitous, it's present everywhere. You can find it everywhere. You can say, "Computers are ubiquitous." We were annoyed by the ubiquitous mosquitoes. The mosquitoes were everywhere. Let's listen to the way Susan used the phrasal verb, "to take off." [S2] And I suspected that if the Siri thing took off, that, you know, suddenly I would just be doing narrations and messages and stuff like that. [S1] She
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[S1] And also, I know what it means and what it is when you, uh, kinda teach, um, any subject because I've been teaching guitar for almost four or five years back in Russia. [S2] Oh, wow. [S1] So I know what it is to, you know, to talk to students, to see their progress or not to see their progress. You know, it's tough, but if you have passion- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... you're gonna suc- you're gonna succeed anyway. [S2] Yeah. You know, it's fun- [S1] This is what you have.
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[S1] ... Pampa Luce. Hold on. Pampa Luce. Um, here we go. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Pampa Luce. One second. They're also a band. [S2] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] Oh, good. [S2] Because, yeah, I've been, well, I've been through some difficult stages in my life, and then I quit, and I'm completely sober, and I've been sober for a long time. [S1] Congratulations. [S2] Thank you. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And this is, yeah, I felt this necessity to share my experience with some other people, and we kinda, we have created a little community where we help each other, and, um, where we support each other, you know?
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[S1] It's like every skill, you, you might have this skill, but if you're not using it, it's just, it's just fading away. So- [S2] Very true. [S1] Yeah. Uh, it took me, it took me some time to get to the level where I'm comfortable with my skills. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But still, there's a long way to go because- [S2] Okay. [S1] ... I wanna improve it and I wanna be better. [S2] Good, good. So then, what is currently the hardest thing about studying English for you?
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[S1] has to be moving the, the, the proper way all the time. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Otherwise you're losing this. So, yeah, not having enough conversations, it's, uh, it's, it's a prob- it's an issue for me, I'd say. [S2] Mm. It's a good point. [S1] This is why I've j- this is why I've joined the Academy. This is why I'm trying to, you know- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... do as much as I can. [S2] Good, good, good. Have you, um, ha- when did you join
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[S1] Exactly. [S2] That's good. Good. I'm glad you said that. I, I've been, um, talking to another student in the academy because, uh, again, I get a lot of emails, um, every week and I, I respond to every email and students have said, "Teacher, you have so many." I was like, "Yeah, but I love my- [S1] I don't know how you find, find time for this. It's crazy. [S2] The thing is, I really do love my students, Alex. Like, I really enjoy you guys a lot, so- [S1] Are you sure, are you sure you have 24 hours in, in one day? [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] It seems like you have 48 or something.
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[S1] ... 3 to 5 audiobooks for free. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And then you just keep, uh, the subscription on, going on. It's like $15 a month or something. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But it, again, there are so many, uh, good books. And, uh, recently I've been listening to, yeah, that's the one. That's the one. [S2] Just showing for students listening, this is what he's talking about. Yeah, it's a great website. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] Yes, great book. I have it right here on my desk. Good. [S2] Yeah, so I have, I have something in plans. And yeah, also my previous one was Talking to Strangers. It's a, it's a, it's an interesting book. It's not what I expected it would be, but still I, I didn't, um, I, I don't regret it. I, I read it. I listened to it. [S1] Uh, Talking to Strangers? Okay. [S2] Okay.
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[S1] I, I, as a teacher, so again, as a teacher, and again, it's not something that can be taught. Every teacher has different techniques. [S2] Right. [S1] My technique is I've gotten, if I've gotten to know a student, or again, like we're having a conversation, we've been talking for a little while, I can see kind of your level, and I'm like, okay, I can see your comfortability, I can see when maybe you get a little nervous. Again, I don't think you're nervous at all, but I think for me, the main thing I do is try to figure out, okay,
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[S1] Let me show it to you. And I'll, I'll show it to you guys also that are watching this. So, nit-picking means to look for all the small problems. [S2] Oh, I see. [S1] Every single small problem. [S2] I see. [S1] So we, it's called nit-picking. Looking for small or unimportant errors or faults. We say nit-picking. [S2] Oh, yeah, I see that. Yeah, I see the, um, uh, what's they- [S1] Example? [S2] ... called-
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[S1] But yeah, but the examples, the, the synonyms, yeah. [S2] Synonyms? [S1] Yeah, it's pretty. Makes, makes more sense, yeah. [S2] So as a teacher, it's important to not, for me, to not nitpick. Oh, you didn't say this, you didn't say that. [S1] What? [S2] I have another student who's also in the academy, and he'll probably watch this. Um, we're very close, we talk, we talk, and I recognize that his issue was he would always go between past and present tense. [S1] Oh, I see. [S2] So he'd be talking to me- [S1] Can you, can you give me an example?
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[S1] ... the main idea, because you cannot separate a character from his voice. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's just, it doesn't work this way. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And, uh, to be able to watch the TV series and movies in English, it's,
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[S1] becoming better, learning so many things, having everything in our head, like a little storage, you know? [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah, if you put enough time, if you put a decent amount of time, and if you practice enough, and if you're consistent enough, it's just, it's a miracle how talented we are, all of us. [S2] Yeah. [S1] How far we can go.
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[S1] Have the rest. Have a good rest of the day and bye bye. Thank you for the conversation. [S2] Thank you. All right. [S1] Okay. Bye bye. [S2] Bye. [S1] Take care. [S2] You too. All right. I hope you enjoyed today's episode. If you want to join me for a conversation, all you have to do is join my academy and become my student. The link is right here on the screen. Speak English with tiffany academy.com. Join today and you can join me for a conversation. I'll see you in the next episode.
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[S1] That is a deep question. [S2] [LAUGHS] I thought you were about everything. [LAUGHS] [S1] Well, my name is Johnny. Obviously, okay. I'm from San Diego, California. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, I have been living and working in Korea as an English teacher for about five years now. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, a big life event. Actually, I just recently got married. [S2] Yes, congratulations.
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[S1] Thank you, thank you. I just got married about, oh man, it's been a little over a month now. [S2] Yeah, time moves. [S1] Yeah, so just been, that's been the new development in my life, just getting adjusted with that. Other than that, just, um, I'm also a pastor at a international church out here in Korea. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So I also do that. I wear many hats right now. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So that's why, uh, early bedtime is the name of the game. [S2] Yes. [S1] Um,
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[S1] Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, it was nice coming back home. And, uh, I'm in, I'm in Maryland, so I'm on the East Coast, but, like, my family loves Mexican food. So my mom cooks it really well. Like, I was born in Arizona, for those that don't know. I was born in Arizona, so- [S2] Oh, that's right. [S1] ... we were surrounded- [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah, we were, like, surrounded by other Mexican people, so my, the Mexicans taught my mom how to cook Mexican food. [S2] Oh, shoot. [S1] Yeah. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Yeah, like- [S2] So now she cooks it.
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[S1] Wow. [S2] She felt that over. Yeah. And I'm not even gonna tell you how much she spent to ship it. She wouldn't tell me, but I found out through my dad. But, oh my goodness. So- [S1] It's a £35 box? Man. [S2] Yeah. [S1] A mother's love. [S2] I, I, that's how it tells you how much I love Mexican food and how much I love food and how much I love my family. And my mom loves me, clearly, but. [S1] Yes. Yes. [S2] So- [S1] You gotta thank the Lord for parents and moms coming through. [S2] Really, though. [S1] Man.
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[S1] Okay. All right. Guys, we got on the topic of food, and it's so easy to talk about that because I also love cooking. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But, um, okay, let me go back to the next question, 'cause the students are probably curious. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Why did you become an English teacher, and how long? Now, I know you've been in Korea for five years, but why did you become an English teacher, and, I guess how long, if it's been five years, you can leave it there, but why did you become an En- [S2] That's, that's a really good question, 'cause, honestly, funny story. In college,
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[S1] ... Uh, I didn't teach again for probably another, like, five, six years, and then, um, I was actually working as a manager at a five-star hotel- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... in San Diego, and I was working crazy. I was, like, 80 hours a week. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And I was getting paid a lot of money, but, like, honestly, like, my life was super empty, and, like, my spiritual life and walk with God was just, it was just dry, and I was just,
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[S1] I, I have, I have traveled many places. I'm well traveled, but I've never lived anywhere outside of California. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So going from living in, uh, California all my life to Korea, if you, you know, is like- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... black and- [S2] Yes. [S1] ... black and white, day and night, it is completely opposite. So I, I came to live here, and, um, those first few years were rough, but they proved really vital and just kind of, um, just my walk with God, but also my development as a person.
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[S1] That's what's up. Yeah, when I see your pictures on Facebook, honestly, I mean, outside of getting married, you look super happy, you and your wife. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But I can see that you look very fulfilled where you are right now. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And even the pictures of you with your church family, you guys look very happy and at peace, so praise God for that. [S2] Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, it's not always easy too, 'cause, you know, sometimes, you know, you have those moments that are not Facebook-worthy.
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[S1] ... you know, institution, all this stuff. But I'm telling you, it's like, it just keeps getting better, and it's awesome. I wish everybody could be married. I, I, I pray that for you. I honestly pray that for you. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And, and I pray God is setting you up because, like, for, for, yeah, I, I can tell, like, he's working on you. He's working something. Don't worry too much. He's working something. [S2] I appreciate that, brother. Yeah, I, I'm looking forward to being married, but yeah, I'm, my parents are married still, and they have a beautiful marriage, and
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[S1] Yep. Yeah, he's there. He's there. Um, all right. So guys, listen, those listening, you guys are getting a lot of gold right here. You're getting marriage advice, you're getting life advice, you're getting everything. So, all right. So you mentioned a little bit about your first teaching experience. You said that you didn't feel like you were the best teacher, so can you give us a little bit more information about, like, your first experience as a teacher? [S2] Oh, my goodness. I've, has anybody ever seen the movie Kindergarten Cop? [S1] Yes, from like the- [S2] I know
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[S1] I know you have seen it. [S2] Yes. [S1] I know you have seen it. [S2] It is hard to think of. [S1] I know for a fact that you have seen it. But for those of you who don't know, if, if, if, if you know Arnold Schwarzenegger, I think most people know Arnold Schwarzenegger. If you don't know, look him up. [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] Big, hulking, um, Austrian dude who came into the United States and made it big in the film industry. And he, he plays this cop who goes undercover- [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] ... as a kindergarten teacher.
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[S1] accountability. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You need to have accountability with, like, with your goals. So you can go in saying, "I'm gonna learn English," but that's a really ambiguous goal. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Why are you learning it? [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You know, what is your goal? Or is your goal to hold a conversation in an interview? Is your goal to, um, apply for college? Is your goal to work a job at a bank? Like, what's your goal? [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And hold yourself accountable to that.
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[S1] Wow, those are really good. So we can say good attitude, studious and accountability. [S2] Good attitude, accountability, would go. Yeah. [S1] Excellent. Guys, I hope you guys are listening closely. These are really good points. You guys need to add these to your list as you're continuing on your English study journey. So very good. Okay, so we have those three qualities. Now, in your five years as a teacher, have you ever had a favorite student? And if you have, tell us about him or her. [S2] Oh, shoot. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Uh-huh. [S2] ... and, oh my, I, like, I look forward to teaching him. Like, he, like, he sometime is the best part of my day. [S1] Wow. [S2] Because, okay, number one, like, this kid has such a great attitude towards learning. And, but the thing is, he wasn't the best student at first. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Like, and he, and to be honest, if I say, like, he's not, I don't know if I would call him the best student in the school, but he's the best student because of his attitude. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Like, he's, like, sometimes he'll be really struggling with a problem,
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[S1] And he said, "Teacher, why are you getting married?" [S2] Oh. [S1] [LAUGHS] And I was like, I was like, "Honestly, Joshua," I was like, "I don't want to live with anyone else for the rest of my life." [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] I was like, "And she's really beautiful. She's really cool." And he's like, "Okay, teacher, that's good." [LAUGHS] [S2] Wow.
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[S1] who is another student and they can't even, they can barely put together a functional sentence. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And so it's hard for me to switch between patience to be like, okay, I wanna be patient, but we've really gotta finish this lesson. You know, like how can I help you? And I really try to like break down the sentence. This is why this is the case. You know, this is your, this is your verb, this is your noun. And then they still don't get it and I'm still explaining it in different ways and there's a point where you gotta move on.
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] We gotta be like, okay, hey, we'll come, I'll come back to this, you know, um, for you. So for me, that patience is really, really hard for me. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Because, like, I think in my mind, sometimes we forget as teachers, like, the student is not supposed to be like you. It's not supposed to learn just like you. [S1] Right. [S2] Maybe there is a student who learns like you, but that's rarely the case. Matter of fact, I don't think I've ever had a student who learns like me. [S1] Yeah. [S2] So, like, you forget that, and, like, as a teacher, you gotta be careful not to apply that to the student.
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[S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Um, and you have patience 'cause you realize, like, oh, this kid, this is not his first language, number one. Um, maybe he's a little bit high above his level. He's really struggling. He's new. Okay, I understand now, like, I gotta, like, maybe meet with them after class, a little bit before, or get a little one-on-one time somewhere to kind of narrow in where, where the problem is. So for me, like, that's, like, that's the biggest challenge is patience, is to have patience. [S1] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] Very slow. It's really hard for a teacher to balance those. I've experienced the same thing, and it's like- [S2] Yeah. [S1] You don't wanna, you don't wanna hold back the learner that's learning really fast, but you also can't slow down for the other. It's, it's really a tricky balance, so I totally get it. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] It makes you a better teacher, honestly. And, and like, I mean, let's get life lessons here. It makes you a better person when you surround yourself with people at varying levels and like just different- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... abilities. Like, I always thought I would marry someone just like me. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Probably my wife's in the other room laughing right now. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] 'Cause I always thought I wanna marry someone just like me, but like God gave me her and she is not like me in every way. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Like we are so different. But like, what happens is, is you rebel against each other,
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[S1] and like start from there. And like from there, then we make each other better. Because that's what I didn't predict as a, as a teacher, is like, it's not just a one way learning street. It's two ways. Like- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... you're teaching them, but you're also learning how to be a better teacher from, you know, interacting with them.
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[S1] It's a great point. It's a great point. You know, um, one of my current students, and I'll, I'll move on to the next question, but one of my current students, who is one of my favorite, I won't say his name because then that may be a little bit of war between the students, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Start a war. [S1] Exactly. [S2] You don't wanna start, you don't wanna start a full-on, like, teaching with Tiffany war. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Exactly. Like, he'll show me the, the, he'll say, "Tiff, I made this, um, flash card so I can practice what you taught me." And it's so encouraging as a teacher because it shows that he has the desire to learn. And he's okay making mistakes. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's like, you're gonna make mistakes. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's not your native language. Like, you're gonna make mistakes. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And even if it is your native language, we make mistakes all the time, so even more with the second language. And it's like he's okay with not being the best, but he's gonna end up being one of the- [S2] Yeah. Being the best.
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[S1] Yeah, so. Yeah, it's great. So I totally agree. Totally agree. [S2] Yeah. [S1] All right. So next one is, you told us about your hardest and your favorite. Um, what do you enjoy most about teaching English? [S2] About teaching? [S1] Yeah. Since before, it was the job you hated, but now you're a teacher. [S2] Oh, yeah. [S1] What do you enjoy the most?
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[S1] I honestly enjoy, it's not really moments, sometimes it's moments in class, but I enjoy like when the, everything starts, what you taught them starts to kind of sink in and they're firing on all cylinders and they're starting to use it, you know? [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Like, um, for example, I had a student and his, his name was Adam, and he came in, he couldn't even speak. He could not speak anything. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Zero English. We started from the alphabet. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And like,
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[S1] Then we worked up to, like, he was walking in class, "Hi, Samuel," the teacher. I'd say, "Hi, Adam. How are you?" "I'm good." "How are you?" "I'm good." And, like, that was it. But, like, that was such a progression. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So, like, my favorite thing, my favorite thing as, as teaching is to see that progression. Like, to see marked improvement. So not just, like, general, um,
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[S1] Oh, yeah. I told my students that before, I was like, "You guys, when we, like, again, like, you know, I went to Korea as a missionary, and I've told students, I was like, "Guys, as a missionary, you go somewhere with a mission. Like, you have a mission to give something." [S2] Yeah. [S1] But what I realized, and many of my other friends that went there as missionaries, we say, "The mission is for the missionary." And that just means that- [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] I learned more from my students than I think they learned from me. Even though, I mean- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... I think they learned, of course, a lot of English. Like you mentioned, I grew as a person. I, so many aspects of that experience shaped me and made me what I hope to be a better person. So I think- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... yeah, we learned more from students than they realized. Even now, being home and I teach via the internet,
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[S1] I still learn a lot because students will send messages and- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... and you learn a lot from the conversations you have with students and things they tell you because I'm teaching them English, but they're still- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... a person. Like, they have a, a life. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Their culture and little things they can tell us about their culture. It's, it's amazing. It's really, yeah. You learn a lot. [S2] And they're gonna go-
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[S1] A Korean, I've been in Korea five years, and like, I'm currently studying Korean, and I'm really trying hard. It's really difficult, but you gotta really be studio, so, um, I- I'm currently trying to get there, to be fluent. [S2] That's what's up. Again, another inspiration, students that are listening, you're gonna inspire them. Like, you're a teacher, you just got married, you have a busy life, yet you're still trying to improve yourself and learn another language. So that's- [S1] Yes. [S2] ... very commendable. That's what's up. That's what's up. [S1] It-
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[S1] People don't realize how valuable it is to know the language. I think it's just like, "Oh, to get a job and to get this, yeah, those are benefits," but that's not like the main thing. Like the main, the main thing is like it personally, like, it develops you as a person. Like- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... it takes a lot of, uh, of tenacity- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... to be able to sit down and learn a language that's not your mother tongue.
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