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bilibili_data_60743182_BV19x411X7ew_p1_BV19x411X7ew_p1_m4-dialogue_0967175 | [S1] Rawls says if we ask ourselves what people in this strange situation would agree upon by way of a constitution, that the answer to that question will be for that reason, principles of justice. [S2] This is a somewhat far-fetched thing to ask people to assume, isn't it? [S1] Well, it's, it's of course far-fetched t... | 29.56 | 3.198728 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_60743182_BV19x411X7ew_p1_BV19x411X7ew_p1_m4-dialogue_0967175.mp3 | [
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