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[S1] Don't look. Guess which creature I can see now. [S2] Can I have a clue, please? Little Nut Brown Hare? [S1] It's green and it has one, two, three, four, five, six legs and two waggly feelers. Oh, and it sure can hop. [S2] Is it a grasshopper? [S1] Yes. Good guess. I have a riddle for you this time.
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[S1] You mean, I'll be you, and you'll be me? [S2] Yes. I'll do all your jobs. Finding food, being grown up, and most importantly, lying in the grass and thinking a lot. And you'll be me and do all my jobs. [S1] And what jobs are they?
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[S1] You slept late, Rat. [S2] Mole said one morning. [S1] It's cold. [S2] Said Rat. [S1] There isn't much to do. I think I'll write poems by the fire. [S2] This was Rat's favorite hobby in winter. But Mole was bored. [S1] Let's invite Badger to dinner. [S2] Mole
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[S1] I only saw him once, and it was very quick. He seemed so odd and strange. [S2] Oh, Badger hates dinner parties. [S1] Said Rat. [S2] Maybe he would come for tea. [S1] Asked Mole. [S2] He's very shy. [S1] Said Rat. [S2] He will visit when he's ready.
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[S1] ... pleasant. [S2] Mole pointed things out. [S1] "These are my plants and pictures." [S2] He said. [S1] "This is my glass ball." [S2] Mole smiled as Rat looked at his things. Then, Mole let out a cry. [S1] "Oh, no! Dust! It's everywhere. It's on everything." [S2] He said.
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[S1] Toad brushed the leaves from his dress. Suddenly, he remembered his escape. [S2] "I'm free!" [S1] He cried. [S2] "I'm free! I'm free!" [S1] Toad jumped up and down with joy. [S2] "I need to find out where I am."
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[S1] How lucky that I met you. [S2] Said the possum. [S1] What do you mean? [S2] Asked Toad. [S1] My dirty clothes are in the back. [S2] She said. [S1] They need washing.
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[S1] ... thought for a moment. [S2] I will go back to Toad Hole. [S1] Said Toad. [S2] And I will live quietly. No more adventures! What? [S1] Cried Rat. [S2] Haven't you heard?
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[S1] The police caught you. [S2] Said Rat. [S1] Everyone here heard the news. All the river bankers were on your side. [S2] Toad smiled proudly. [S1] But the weasels called you a thief. [S2] Said Rat. [S1] The ferret said you would go to jail. They said you would never come back. [S2] Toad nodded sadly.
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[S1] Its shelves were full of books. [S2] "Sit down and warm up," said Rat. "I will light a bright fire." [S1] "Achoo!" Mole sneezed. [S2] "Here are slippers and a robe," said Rat. "Put them on, Mole." [S1] Together, they ate a fine supper.
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[S1] So, Emiya, were you ever in the track club? [S2] Track? No, I've always been in archery. Never really had time for both. [S1] Oh, I see. Sorry, guess my mind was wandering a little. Looking at the sunset just got me thinking. It's just, time has really flown by. The Holy Grail War's over now, you've signed on as my apprentice, and it's only been a month. At this rate, a year will be over before you know it.
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[S1] That's a good question. I've learned a lot here, but in a lot of ways, I feel like I'm in over my head. I still don't want to give up on my beliefs, though. I want to dedicate my life to seeing them come true. [S2] Meaning what? [S1] Well, I know it might sound dumb, but I don't care. There's something I want to be. It's called a hero of justice.
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[S1] But in a way, that's also something from the past, I guess. [S2] What is, Chief? [S1] Flavors are like pieces of information. Though, I guess you can't write them down. [S2] Huh? [S1] Say, cheese! Wait, hold on. [S2] What's wrong? [S1] Some words came up on the camera. [S2] It can connect.
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[S1] It must be nice for you, Qi, making me do all the annoying work for you. [S2] If you don't have any of the brains, then make use of all of your brawn. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't even read or write. [S1] Um, what are you even trying to write in there, Qi? [S2] It's a little journal that I've been keeping since we left. Don't you remember that? I explained all of this to you before. [S1] Is that right?
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[S1] Yeah, I think we're lost. [S2] That seems normal. I mean, aren't we always getting ourselves a little lost here and there? [S1] I think this time might be a bit different than the others. [S2] Uh... We're way more lost? [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] what all these drawers are? Look, right here. We didn't see it because it was so small, but every drawer here has a name written on it. So that means that the name represents the owner. [S2] So then, all that stuff that was left inside were trinkets forgotten by those people? [S1] I don't think they were actually forgotten. I think they put them in there so they wouldn't be forgotten.
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[S1] ... Test that special skill of yours and open this lock on my door. [S2] And so you can leave without a backward glance? [S1] Listen to you. I'm not going back in here again. [S2] No way, then. But if you don't come back, the instructor will give us a harsher punishment. I'm just sneaking out for food. I'll be back.
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[S1] What would you like to have? [S2] Fish and chips. Some onion vinaigrette on the side if they have any. [S1] No problem. I'll bring some mashed peas too. [S2] So you managed to control the Shamirs and got out? [S1] Yes. How about you? Any odd things in your room?
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[S1] An ark, sailing in the storm. [S2] [GASPS] [S1] No traces here. A good place for talking. [S2] These are giant stone statues, huge electronic machines, a whole wall of photos. [S1] Please, allow me to reintroduce myself.
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[S1] The things you're doing, does your boss know? [S2] [SIGHS] [S1] This is my own will. I don't want to stand aside and watch you be carried away by Cenetto, leaving no sign of you after the storm. On top of that, there is something I want to find out myself. The truth. [S2] Solid.
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[S1] So you're already talking about Junkrat, and I'm just gonna say that we haven't even gotten to the match and you've already filled the bingo square. It took no time at all. [S2] I'm a man of the people. I wanna deliver bingos in the here and the now. [S1] Yeah, well, that's what's important. But now we are heading in the map one. It's gonna be Lijiang Tower, and, you know, you're absolutely right. When you talk about Hammond and Aemong, and was able to bring to the team where this is just a meta that really favors what Chengdu is good at, and do you, at any point, really expect them to swap off of that?
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[S1] I think that's most likely the idea, to, to, uh, force the Arisa comp. And I think it makes sense, to be fair. This first point on Numbani is notoriously difficult to crack, especially against an Arisa comp. Um, you know, it's interesting because this is a map where, you know, at least in my mind, I would think Wrecking Ball could work, could have some potential, but clearly if the hunters aren't playing it, it, there's no hope, so. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Like, you know, if you were gonna play it on, on frickin Control Center, you're, you're gonna play it everywhere. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So, if they're not gonna play it on Numbani, then, uh, it's not possible. Nobody can
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[S1] Yeah, this moment was so critical because, you know, Bobble, he didn't even necessarily need to go for this play. He was just trying to create some space for his Winston and, you know, maybe bait some cooldown so that the Primal could be more effective. But when you lose your Sombra that early in the fight, she, she is a key damage hero, right? And, and not only the damage you're relying on her for, you're relying on her for the hacks at the same time, uh, shutting down the mobility from those highly mobile dive heroes. And here we get to see this beautiful replay. [S2] Yeah. [S1] They leave just
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[S1] Yeah, definitely. But I would say the ball is now firmly in their court. They've been losing these dive mirrors pretty handily, I would say, uh, to the Chengdu Hunters. There have been those close moments, but, uh, overall, it, there hasn't really been a, a winning moment for the London Spitfire where they're really, you know, setting up a win condition close to closing out the game. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] The maps are closed in the sense that team fights go both ways, but that's more the nature of the Ultimates, and I think, uh, when it comes to the overall tempo game, the way it feels to watch this game, it just looks like the Hunters are firmly in control.
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[S1] Uh, honestly, you know, what's a real crunch time to me is the solo EMP, e- solo EMP pulse bomb onto all those Genji. I mean, come on. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Like, I get it, the guy popped off, he had some sick blades. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] You know, he, he dashed up and, and chopped off Valtol's head on the, on the Valkyrie blade, but man, don't do him like that, the solo EMP pulse bomb. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Like, he's just a Genji, he's a little Genji, like, let him be. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] ... comes down to a raw tank trade. You need somebody to just break shields. There's nobody other than Zarya who's actually gonna do that. And is this an Orisa in a Hunter's game? [S2] It, it is. However, they're on the attack. Believe nothing. [S1] Yeah, we'll just- [S2] Until they're actually out of the gate. [S1] Yeah. Okay. Nice job bait, Hunters. I think they're actually doing that to fake out Bobble, who's scouting the spawn on Sombra. Could be worth something, you know, maybe distract the enemy, make them talk about something irrelevant in the pre-game. You know, every advantage- [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] So, uh, I'm pretty surprised to see this. I'm curious to see, will this continue on, uh, going into the rest of the tournament. But what an exciting match, ZP. [S2] Yeah, very much so. And you know, for the Hunter, sometimes you look at it and go, "Don't adapt to the world, make the world adapt around you." Maybe that's the motto, but it does bring us to our player of the match, presented by Xfinity, and it's Leave, and, you know, Leave's shown some surprising versatility and just great gameplay all around. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] to be fair, it's not that radically different from the events door, is it? It's still very, very low, very, very wide, and has a very, very angry face. My personal favorite bits, though, are all around the back of the car, which is where you're going to find these flying buttresses, the exposed V12 engine. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Surrounded by vents. You've got the moveable rear wing and those two high-set exhausts. It's all
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[S1] I can live without the dents. If I would've knew, knew then what I knew now, then it would've been totally different. But, you know, it's life, right? And then I had to put two to two together because when I was restoring the car, we noticed, it was like, why is this all this extra stuff on the car? You know, they were, they were actually high performance parts. I needed to get the car running. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So the car wasn't originally stock, so I had to put it back stock.
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[S1] Um, and I had no idea what was gonna happen to me. I knew I was gonna come in and, and give it my all, but, you know, sometimes things just don't work out. And I had kinda just planned to just try and be in for a year to two years- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... and hoping that I would at least make it that long. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, and here I am at two years and, you know,
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[S1] And when I turned 18, I ended up actually getting a job that I really loved, uh, outside of sex work. So I kinda put it on hold for a minute, and then when I was 22, I finally felt ready, and I, you know, I felt like it was, it was time to kinda take the plunge. And I'm glad I didn't start when I was 18. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] I mean, a lot of girls start when they're 18 and they're fine. Um, I think I had a little bit more maturing to do, and I wanted to make sure I was really making the right choice, 'cause, you know, once it's out there, you can never take it back. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So-
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[S1] When I was 22, I, I felt a lot more confident and, um, and ready for it. And I, and I took the plunge and I'm glad that I did 'cause I'm not sure things would have gone as well as they did if I had started earlier. [S2] Yeah. Why do you think that, well, why do you think that you didn't start when you were 18? Was it just because this other job came up and, and that took, do you think that if that job had not happened, that you would have started in the industry at 18? [S1] Yeah, I think that if that job wouldn't happen, I, I definitely would have started earlier. Um, so why do you think it's better
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[S1] good growing experience for me, um, and I really enjoyed working with them, and I feel like it helped me grow up a lot, you know? And... [S2] Probably taught you a lot of compassion and patience. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] Yeah, and, and, and understanding of people because, you know, you know, some of these girls would act out and, you know, then you kinda learn more about where they came from before they were at the school and you understand them better and you understand why people do things that they do. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And it just kinda teaches you not to judge people on, you know, their actions and stuff. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And that was especially helpful coming into the industry when- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... people here can, you know, sometimes
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[S1] Yeah. So, I mean, taking what I learned from that job, and using some of those skills and maneuvering the industry now has been extremely helpful. [S2] Mm-hmm. What do you think that, um, what do you think are some of the things that you do now at your age that maybe you wouldn't have before? Do you think that you're better, like establishing boundaries? [S1] Oh, for sure. Um, you know, I was,
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[S1] I definitely feel, you know, those few short years between being 18 and 22, you grow a lot. [S2] You do. [S1] Yeah. [S2] A lot of people don't realize that. [S1] Yeah. [S2] The problem is, is when you're 18, you think you know everything. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] You really do. [S1] I
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[S1] And, and I, I was confident even then, um, but I, I had no experience in, in the adult world. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And I think that, you know, some of these girls that come into porn straight out of high school, they've, a lot of them have never worked a real job, they've never had a boss, they've had, they've never had hours, a schedule, and they think that porn is just like, you know,
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[S1] A big party. [S2] A big party, yeah. And they don't understand you need to be on time to your call times. You need to respect your boss. You need to respect your directors, your agent, your coworkers. You know, it, this is work. [S1] Yeah. [S2] This is a business. Um, and I feel like those skills that I learned working a full-time job, um, outside of porn before coming in helped me, uh, take it more seriously as a job once I got in and respect other people's time, you know,
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[S1] a regular kind of nine-to-five job or a job where you're working with other people, how that can affect your job performance and how seriously you take your job and your behavior and stuff like that. Because that's so incredibly true. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And I've actually, you know, most people, when they argue for the idea of starting porn later, it's usually like, "Oh, well, you're just not grown up yet. You haven't developed your brain." [S2] Well, that's, that's not t-
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[S1] Well, that's- [S2] ... your brain. [S1] That's not to say that some 18-year-olds I get in the industry- [S2] Right. [S1] ... can't or aren't successful. [S2] Right. [S1] Um, I mean, there's 30-year-olds I get in the industry and- and are idiots and- [S2] Can't get it done, to put them together. [S1] Yeah, exactly. [S2] Yeah, absolutely. [S1] But I think it's still definitely, it's never going to hurt you to wait. [S2] Right. 'Cause it's not going anywhere. [S1] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] But I think the, the, the point that you brought up with the, the idea of actually having worked in a more strict- 'cause porn, it, it's structure- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] It's not as structured as like a regular nine to five is, you know? [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] It's, it's very different. The hours can be all over the place. Every production set's different. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Your boss is a different person every single day and they have different rules and- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... they have different behaviors. You're working with different people. Um, but I think it, what you said is really valuable about, you know, how people,
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[S1] would fare better if they've had a regular, more structured job where they've kind of learned those skills. [S2] Absolutely. [S1] About being- [S2] Every, every girl in the industry that I know who has had a, a career before porn, um, has, it shows. [S1] Yeah. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Yeah, yeah. [S2] It shows in their professionalism. It shows in, you know, in how they behave on set and how they, how they act towards their costars. It, it, it shows. You can tell.
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[S1] Yeah. So, okay, so I kind of interrupted you. We went for a little bit of a tangent. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So you, um, okay, so you were older and you decided that you wanted to try sex work. So what was the first thing that you did? [S2] Um, [CLEARS THROAT] well, I, I went to a few strip clubs just to see, you know, I, I went to my first strip club when I was like maybe 19. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Just to see what that is like.
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[S1] Um, and it was fun and I enjoyed it, but I, it didn't seem like enough money to me. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, you know. [S2] And you had a background in dance, right? [S1] Yeah, I was, well, I was a gymnast mostly. That's my, my biggest defining, you know. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] sport that I did growing up. I was a competitive gymnast for, like, ten years. [S2] Wow. [S1] And then after that, uh, I did dance and cheer. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, but, yeah, so I, I looked into stripping and, to me, it just, it didn't seem like, uh, quite what I was looking for. Um, and I looked into camming briefly, but that's, I wanted to get out of the house more and travel more and, I don't know. [S2] Camming's definitely not gonna get you out of the house. [S1] Yeah. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So I,
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[S1] Yeah, and, and I just liked that. And, you know, with camming and stripping, the money you make is gonna be different, you know, every night. I, what I liked about porn was that it's, you know, you have a set rate and you know you're gonna make that, you know. It's, it's more, to me it seemed more, you know, reliable, I guess, or more consistent. [S2] Yeah, that's true. [S1] Um, so I started researching agents. I literally, I didn't know where to start 'cause I didn't know a single person in the industry. I didn't know anyone or anything. I had zero connections. Um,
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[S1] So the first thing I did was just Google porn agents. And I, I live in Southern Utah, um, so I'd looked, I, I knew there probably wasn't gonna be any in Utah. [S2] Right. [S1] So I looked porn, I Googled porn agents Las Vegas. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And that's what I, 'cause it's close to where I live. [S2] Right. [S1] Um, and a couple came up and I, you know, I'm not an idiot. I looked at a couple websites and by the websites alone I was like, "Okay, this is not something, maybe these agents are not- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... the one for me." [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And, uh, um,
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[S1] I came across a couple that looked okay to me and, you know, and I looked at their girls, I'm like, okay, is this like a site that I want to be up, you know, on there with- [S2] Yeah, their roster says a lot. [S1] Yeah. So I looked at the rosters and, and looked to see if I would fit in with them or, you know, if all the girls were like covered in tattoos and piercings and stuff, I'm like, okay, this is maybe a more alternative agency, you know, kind of just looking for the right one. And I spent months looking at agents before I even made my first phone call. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um,
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[S1] and, uh, some of those girls, and I realized, I'm like, okay, well, who represents them? And it was Spiegler. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna, and I, like, read, I Googled everything about him. [S2] Wow. [S1] I read, like, every article I could find, I watched every interview, like, I'd- [S2] You really did your research. [S1] Oh, yeah. [LAUGHS] I, I spent a long time on this. Um, and I read that he only, you know, he's super exclusive. He only represents 25 to 30 girls at a time. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And, and I looked at his website and it was full. And then,
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[S1] shower? [S2] No, I didn't say that, but he did. He's, I was like, "Hey, uh, my name is," you know, "and, and I, uh, I'm trying to get into the industry. Um, I, are you taking any girls right now?" And he was like, "Oh, well, I'm in the shower. Let me call you back." I was like, "Okay." [S1] You must have hung up and been like, "What the fuck is going on?" [S2] I was so, I literally looked at his website.
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[S1] And I, and at that time I was doing more like mainstream modeling and I had a modeling Instagram, Instagram account, like not porn related. And I was like, "Yeah, I have a, I have an Instagram you can look at." And he's like, "Well, what is it?" I'll look at it right now. And I was like, "Oh shit, he's like gonna look me, look it up right now." [S2] Yeah, while we're on the phone. [S1] Yeah. So I'm like, "This, he can just say like, fuck off and hang up." [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know? Like, I was so nervous, my heart started racing. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And he was like, "Yeah, yeah, you're, you're cute. When can you come out?" And I was like,
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[S1] He made it sound like, like a trial. [S2] Yeah, it was just- [S1] Like, he wanted to meet me in person. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But he booked my first scene before meeting me. [S2] Oh, wow. [S1] So I had it booked. Like, you know, he talked to me a few times on the phone. [S2] Okay. [S1] And he had a fuck ton of photos of me and video. I'd sent, I'd, 'cause I'd done video projects too. [S2] Uh-huh. [S1] Like, not porn, but like, just like, you know, modeling videos. Um, so he knew what I looked like. Like, you know, he knew I wasn't like catfishing him or something. [S2] Right.
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[S1] ... at the job. [S2] Yeah, but he- [S1] A pervert, like all those things. [S2] He, he, he took me through all those tests. He asked me, he's like, "Well, well, what are you, you know, sexually, like, what are you like?" And I was like, "Well, I, I'm, I'm bisexual. I like men, I like women. I, I love, like, new experiences. Like I, you know, was the school slut in high school, like, you know." And he, so he knew I was, you know, a very sexual person. [S1] Okay. [S2] And he also, m- we had multiple phone calls before I ever drove out where he booked me, which were all scheduled. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] So that was kinda him testing my professionalism, I'm sure. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Which is funny 'cause we were in
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[S1] different time zone. So the first time I called him, I was by his clock an hour late. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And I, 'cause he's like, "Call me at, at 8 p.m. tomorrow." [S2] Yeah. [S1] And I called him at 8 p.m. tomorrow, and he's like, "Well, you were supposed to call me an hour ago." I'm like, "It's 8 p.m." And he's like, "I'm, uh..." So that was funny, a funny mix up 'cause he thought I was calling him an hour late, but- [S2] Right. [S1] ... it was just different time zones. So he, he knew I was, and I, and I worked 9-5 and he knew that. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So-
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[S1] It was, he- [S2] 'Cause they're, did they, did he shoot them in hotel rooms? [S1] Uh, no, that was shot at a home. [S2] Okay. [S1] Um, I, yeah, they do shoot in hotel rooms a lot for that particular site. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Uh, but this one was shot in a home. Uh, and he told me, he's like, "Now, like, not all porn companies are gonna be like this," 'cause Lansky's, you know, Days on a Lansky set is definitely very, like, um, long and structured and, you know,
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[S1] I did that for a long time and I was like, why am I like not getting paid for this? Like I, you know, that's what I thought about doing cam. Because I enjoyed that, that specific scenario so much. [S2] Yeah. Um, but- [S1] That's the thing about porn. It's like, it can't be just for the money. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Like you have to enjoy the work. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You have to enjoy being an exhibitionist. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You have to enjoy the sex. Otherwise, the money's never gonna be enough.
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[S1] Yeah. And, and I'm one of those people, like, I'll be on set and, you know, I've, everyone on, everyone should be professional on set, like, talent and crew. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And, but I'm one of those people where I'm like, well, I'm like, working and having sex, I want everyone in the room to be, like, horny too. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Like, if I look over and a PA has a boner, I'm like, "Yeah, that's hot." Like... [S2] So that, that's great. That's interesting because actually, like, a lot of times, um, girls would be, like, creeped out by that. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] Yeah, and I said that, yeah, I said that to, I was talking about it to Brie Mills, and she was like, "I'm the one," like, saying, "No, everyone be professional." [S2] Yeah. [S1] No, like, if everyone was, like, if, like, if the director was filming and, like, jerking off, that would be ideal to me. That would make it more fun. [S2] Can I tell you, like, the funniest story that just reminded me? So when we shot your Treat of the Month shoot- [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] ... you know, the guy that was doing the steady cam? [S1] Yeah. [S2] So he, like, only works mainstream. Like, he never, ever, ever works an adult, and he only shoots the tease stuff. He never shoots any of, like, the masturbation. [S1] Did he shoot it that day? [S2] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] Mm-mm. [S2] Oh. [S1] No, he never does. He left. He left early. [S2] Oh, yeah. I think I remember. [S1] He left early because when he, and he's still like kind of new to it 'cause he's only ever worked for me and he's only, you know, done, he only does Treat of the Month stuff. Like I said, only the tea stuff.
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[S1] I'm, I love to hear you say that 'cause I, I, I mean, it was the only treat of the month I've done. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But it was one of my favorite shoots I've ever done by far. [S2] Yeah. It was epic. It was so, so good. Um, so, okay, so you, so your first scene was with Black Draw. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] And then did you just start working, like, all the time?
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[S1] We, he hadn't booked me any work after that at that point. And he, it kinda like, you know, at the end of the week, I'm like, okay, I'm feeling good enough to go. Like, thank you for everything. And I kinda left and I was like, all right, that was it. I just blew it. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Like, I thought for sure. And then he called me a couple days later. He's like, "Hey, I need a schedule from you on, like, for sure days people wanna book you." Like, what do I, what days are you open? And I was like, "Oh, okay. So this is happening." [S2] Yeah. [S1] Like, you know, I thought for sure it just, you know, that I blew it just from having it canceled too in my first scenes. Um,
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[S1] I think that it's really important to have a life outside of work in any industry. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know? [S2] I was gonna say. [S1] It's, it's not just porn. I mean, there's people outside of porn that are, that are workaholics and they never leave the office. They only hang out with people from work and it, it, it'll drive you crazy. [S2] Mm-hmm.
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[S1] Um, I feel like I have a really good balance and I'm, and I'm lucky to have that. And, you know, I have a really supportive family and a really accepting family and, and I have friends and, you know, Utah is, I, I come here and I work and I'm Elena Lopez and I go home to Utah and I, and I'm just me. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And I don't do any,
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[S1] porn stuff. I don't work. I just, I spend time with my family and I focus on me and I work on my personal life and, and it's just wonderful. [S2] Yeah. [S1] I would never want to change it. Even, like, even if I am losing work by being out there, it's a sacrifice I'm definitely happy to make.
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[S1] You know, I've been in the industry for 21 years, and even though, like, I kind of grew up in it 'cause my, you know, mom worked in it, I definitely have, like, a life outside of it. Like, my boyfriend's not connected to the adult industry at all. A lot of my friends, um, do not work in the adult industry, and I find that that's very healthy for me. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You know? Um, so many people are so consumed. And, you know, it happens sometimes when, like, work turns on you, and then these people, like,
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[S1] Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. I think that that's really, I think that's really valuable and I think you're very smart to do that. [S2] Thanks. [S1] Okay, so we're going to take a quick commercial break and then we come back. We're going to talk about, um, your Mormon upbringing, some really cool new projects that you're doing that are coming out, that are actually out now, and, um, so much more. So hang tight, guys. We'll be right back. Are you a fan of my podcast, Holly Randall Unfiltered?
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[S1] Okay, so we're back. So, Elena, I know this is something that you've talked about a lot, but, you know, people are always fascinated by this and the duality and the fact that you do have a good relationship with your family. So you grew up Mormon- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... which is notoriously, um, I wouldn't say provides a lot of sex education. [S2] None. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] The only sex education they provide is don't do it.
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[S1] you know, leave the church, my family wasn't shocked. They all, everyone else kinda knew too. [S2] Yeah. [S1] My parents always tried to push me into it when I was younger, um, but I think they always knew that it just, it, it wasn't for me. [S2] Right. [S1] Um, so I didn't have, like, some big dramatic exit and, you know, my family didn't disown me 'cause they knew that I, that it's, um, it's, it's not gonna work for me. [S2] Right.
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[S1] you know, they don't want me in their life, then that's on them. [S2] Right. [S1] Um, so, but anyways, what was the- [S2] The, the other part of the question, well, I was gonna ask you, so how, how did they react when they found out that you were doing adult work? [S1] It wasn't a huge surprise to a lot of them. I was always a really
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[S1] doing those things. Um, and there are seven kids in my family. So when there's that many kids, it's hard to like, you know, give one kid who's struggling- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... in their eyes that kind of attention- [S2] Right. [S1] ... to get them to stop doing that if you really want them to because there's just too much going on. [S2] Right. [S1] So, I mean, I guess I kind of worked in my advantage 'cause I got to get away with those things a lot more. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Um, but when I, when I finally started, um,
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[S1] ... preparing them all along for your first... [S2] I guess so, yeah. Unintentionally preparing them to, for, for the big finale. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] So when I finally did porn, I think the biggest, uh, response from the people in my life were just that they weren't surprised. [S1] Right. [S2] And not even, and my cousin, when she found out, she said it in the funniest way. Um, she, she calls me, and I hadn't really told a lot of people myself. Like, a lot of people just found out on their own. [S1] Right.
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[S1] Yeah, so my family was pretty, it wasn't like a big emotional thing. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] It wasn't like a big crazy thing and like no one even, there was no point where anyone in my family like didn't talk to me for a short period of time. Like everything just kinda went on as normal. [S2] So you're so close to your family and you guys all have- [S1] Yeah, we're all having Thanksgiving together in a couple weeks, like- [S2] That's great. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] See, I love hearing stories like that because so many people, and actually I got a comment on one of my YouTube videos literally the other day from some guys saying this, that, you know, can you f- you know, all of these girls come from broken homes. All these girls- [S2] All these girls were abused. [S1] All these girls were abused, um, you know, every single one of them and that's why they do porn. And I try to tell people, like, that's not the case. Like, yes, some people have experienced that. Look, a lot of people have experienced abuse in general. [S2] Yeah, I'm like, do you realize
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[S1] It's happened to a lot of people. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And a lot of people didn't go into porn. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know what I mean? Like, unfortunately, it's something that's across the board. It's happened to a lot of people, but of course the focus is always on the people who work in porn because you're like, "Oh, of course that that's what would've happened." But what it sounds like to me with you, and I remember like Angela White had a very similar story as well, is that you were just always a sexual person. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And it was something that, you know, you had from a young age and it wasn't the result of abuse and it wasn't the result
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[S1] of, you know, some horrible circumstance. It was just who you were. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And, you know, you were able to find an industry that supported that and also paid you for it. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] That you could, like, make a career out of it. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So, when you hear people talk about, you know, how every girl who works in porn comes from this broken, abusive family, you must kind of, like, roll your eyes because- [S2] Yeah, I- [S1] ... obviously you're the antithesis of that. [S2] Yeah.
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