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Twitter boss slams Wikipedia's 'silly' SOPA protest - llambda http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/16/wikipedia-sopa-blackout-slammed-twitter ====== im_dario Maybe a nice way to "blackout" Twitter is don't tweeting or just censoring our tweets. I just started to spread this tweet (with #twuserblackout as main hashtag): Don't force Twitter to close tomorrow. Just don't tweet or ██████ yourself #twuserblackout #SOPA #PIPA #ACTA ------ jarin Good old "Dickbar" Costolo ------ pasbesoin Just today, Twitter sent me an email saying "we missed you". Can't say the same, Dick. Actually, if this is the tweet, [https://twitter.com/dickc/statuses/159014296616058880?_escap...](https://twitter.com/dickc/statuses/159014296616058880?_escaped_fragment_=/dickc/status/159014296616058880#!/dickc/status/159014296616058880) I can see the point about a global business -- having contract obligations and cash flow issues, etc. But that does not have a direct bearing on Wikipedia. Further, Dick's tweet has been repeatedly cited in newstories looking for a dramatic, opposing sound bite with which apparently to counter "them commies". Is this Dick's failure, or the failure of "his" platform in its reduction of all commentary to single brief sentences or phrases? (Yes, I'm being deliberately a bit snarky. After all, that is one of Twitter's provinces.) Twitter's gained enormous credibility as a stubbornly open channel in the face of repressive regimes e.g. those involved in the Arab Spring. What a shame if its CEO sees fit to lie down and sleep with domestic (after all, you're still basically a U.S. company -- or U.S. based) repression. I hope this is about keeping Twitter up, but not about supporting SOPA/PIPA/et al. And I hope that if so, Costolo will step up and state so clearly. Use more than one sentence if you need to.
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TED Q&A: Neurologist Oliver Sacks - kqr2 http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/02/ted-qa-neurol-1.html ====== katamole For anybody who hasn't read "The Man Who Mistook his Wife for a Hat", I highly recommend it. Very interesting read (especially for ex-neurology students like myself).
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White House seeks Silicon Valley help battling coronavirus - notlukesky https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/11/white-house-seeks-silicon-valley-help-battling-coronavirus-125794 ====== onyva Step one: close Drumpf’s twitter account and delete all video clips of him talking.
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Scientists improve smart phone battery life by up to 60 percent - ohjeez https://techxplore.com/news/2018-11-scientists-smart-battery-life-percent.html ====== JoeAltmaier ...for certain apps. Not for the OS, nor for extending the lifetime of a dormant phone.
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Why You Should Be Using Virtualisation In Your Development Environment - danw http://morethanseven.net/2010/11/04/Why-you-should-be-using-virtualisation.html ====== codypo We're big fans of virtualized development environments at my startup. Not only is it very helpful in preventing weird environment-related bugs like the autor states, it's a huge shortcut when it comes to bringing new developers onboard. Rather than have them spend hours tracking down links to all the right versions of your various libraries and installing things in the appropriate order, you hand them your image. For us, setup time for a new developer has gone from about a day to about 30 minutes, and most of that is time spent downloading Virtual Box. In addition, if you get a little too clever and accidentally wipe out something crucial in your environment, you just spin up a new VM. It's a tremendous timesaver. ------ johnbender I'm assuming Mitchell hasn't seen this yet, but I'm sure I speak for both of us when I say thank you for including Vagrant in your post. I would like to point out a few things. 1\. Another thing to set up. Streamlining project setup is one of Vagrant's primary goals. Instead of putting someone, who potentially has no background with the app, through a 20 step process installing all the application dependencies you can simply tell them to run a few commands. 2\. It's a "Ruby tool". While I don't think your intention was to pigeon hole it, Vagrant is really meant for any development environment/language/setup. Its just unfortunate that the only supported provisioning tool uses Ruby for its DSL (are there similar tools in other languages?) (NOTE: its been a while since I contributed meaningfully to the project) ~~~ mitchellh I did finally see this entry. It was a great read and I agree completely with it. Note that I posted my comment on the blog directly: [http://morethanseven.net/2010/11/04/Why-you-should-be- using-...](http://morethanseven.net/2010/11/04/Why-you-should-be-using- virtualisation.html#comment-94464917) Since clicking on that just to read my comment can be annoying, I've copied it below as well: ========================================================= Yes! Yes Yes Yes! Virtualization for development is extremely important and I'm glad you wrote this. Also, thanks for the hat tip to Vagrant, I appreciate it. I've given a few talks on this and it always amazes me how many people are so comfortable with the status quo of developing on their own machines with apache/mysql/etc installed directly on their machines. Its a disaster waiting to happen. I want to point out to the many people using VMWare out there: VMWare Fusion is great, yes, I won't argue. Their shared folders are better, again I agree. But Vagrant does make use of NFS which is faster than even VMWare Fusion's shared folders in order to get around VirtualBox's terrible performance. And just because I have things to say, here are a few of my own remarks against the arguments against virtualization of development: * Speed - Given enough RAM (which for a standard web application, shouldn't be any more than 512 MB to 1 GB for the VM instance), the speed difference is noticeable but not detrimental to your productivity. For regular web requests you won't notice any speed difference. For CPU intensive background tasks, you'll probably see a 1.5x slowdown. Again, unless you're running 5 hour tasks during development, it shouldn't be a big deal, and the benefits outweigh these issues, in my opinion. * Lower level than you're used to - Then get your friendly sysadmin to setup a base image to use for your site. A modern sysadmin has many scripts made to automate the setup of the environment for production. There is no reason these scripts can't be used to setup your development as well. Use it! Stay in your happy place and just boot up a VM and code! (Although its my opinion every developer should take the time to learn their software stack top to bottom) * Something else to setup - Once. You only need to learn it once, and its repeatable and dependable. I would argue that setting up a new software stack every time a dependency changes on your web app is far more than one more "something else to setup." * Developer workstations should be personal - Right! I agree 100%. So stop installing server crap on your personal computers. Keep your Twitter clients away from your web servers. Use a VM and keep your workstation personal. Thanks again, Mitchell ------ jonpaul I really wish you could virtualize OS X. I would love to build a beefy Linux box as a base machine and virtualize OS X and Windows. It's my understanding you can do it, but it's a bit hacky, right? ~~~ widgetycrank I ran a VMWare image of OS X a few years ago. I don't know what it's like now, but back then the lack of an OpenGL driver was the deal breaker. OS X's graphic shell uses Quartz Extreme on top of OpenGL, without GPU acceleration it was virtually unusable. ~~~ epoch7 I'm running a VMWare image of 10.6 (Snow Leopard) right now. I didn't set it up, but it does indeed run. It's not perfect. It had problems running Safari 4, but now runs Safari 5 fine. I use it for browser testing. That being said Flash video crashes it hard, HTML5 video crashes it gently (like caressing a child's face with a butcher knife). I have a pretty capable machine (Core i7 920, 6GB, GTX260 video card), but speed wise it is quite usable and I run all sorts of osx-only apps on it (like the omni suite) every day. So.. i guess like 7.5 out of 10? Buggy, but really getting close. ------ SkyMarshal I've also found it's generally better to keep your base installation as sparse as possible, and use virtual machines for anything that does not absolutely need to be on the host. That way you can set up servers, experiment with new platforms and/or applications, hack^Wlearn config files and system internals, etc. without risk of bogging down or blowing up your machine and having no recourse but a full reinstall and reconfig. I've got core Ubuntu Server, OpenSuse, and CentOS server images, that include extras like git-core, htop, ssh, and a few other utilities I universally depend on, and that I can copy, deploy, and configure for whatever specialized purpose that comes up. <3 it. ------ khingebjerg Perhaps a middle ground could be using a virtual machine as a staging environment? ~~~ bmj This is what we do. The biggest benefit here, for us, is that if a release goes horribly wrong, or our testers find a disastrous bug, we can easily roll back to a clean state and only lose the time it takes to load the VM. I've tried using a VM for doing development, but I've run into the issues mentioned in the parent article: Visual Studio 2010 is memory and CPU hog. I've maxed out the RAM in my laptop, and it still ran too slowly to be really useful. ------ JofArnold Not strictly in the spirit of the post, but I use a nice VM setup I thoroughly recommend: \- Host: OSX (2.4GHz i5, 8GB ram) \- Guest1: Ubuntu 10.10 (1.5GB ram allocated; acts as a LAMP server, available to Host and other Guests) \- Guest2: WinXP (1.5GB ram allocated - I use it for IE and for Xara) This config eats RAM, but affords so many advantages: 1/ Makes my LAMP server portable. Can set up on new computer in no time 2/ Means I can experiment with server software and can revert when I break something 3/ Enables easy cross-PLATFORM browser testing which is vital if you care about fonts and pixels 4/ Can easily fake slow internet connections etc for web dev 5/ Gedit :P 6/ Nautilus :P Major disadvantage is filesystem access speed. ~~~ JofArnold PS, if anyone knows a solution to the file access speed issue (not just the filesystem of the guest, but also what ever you share with it from the host) please tell me. Parallels, VMWare Fusion and VirtualBox all have this issue and it drives me mad sometimes! ~~~ reynolds I'm not sure if this helps in your situation, but when I'm running VMware I don't share any local directories. I use rsync to manage the virtual server directories since it's similar to how I deploy to my remote servers. Having to manually "deploy" code to a local virtual server can be tedious, so running a background process that watches your local directories for changes helps a lot. ~~~ ciniglio Can you elaborate on that background process? Is that something built into rsync? ~~~ reynolds It's actually something I've been working on that I want to put up on github. I hacked up a Python version of it as a proof-of-concept but rewrote it in C as an installable executable using autotools. Basically I tell it which directory I want it to watch for changes and it does automatic syncing by piping rsync. I keep a local and remote signature of the files and their timestamps. When it first starts up, it pulls the server sig file and compares it to the local one. If there's a mismatch, the server is updated. From there it manages the signatures locally until they're different. Writing the sig file to the remote server is done in the same rsync pass because it's stored in the local directory as a dotfile. I realize rsync does its own checksums, but using my own crude signature files makes it so I don't have to keep calling rsync. I only call it when something changes. I also have some stuff I'm working on that ties into auto-restarting servers when syncing finishes, rolling server deployments for no downtime, db migrations, etc. ~~~ epoch7 Sounds like some pretty cool stuff! I hope you post about it when you do decide to release it. :) ------ rdzah Now if I could only get some vmware <-> ec2 direct compatibility up in here ... proprietary conversion tools = fail. ------ FiReaNG3L Note that its pretty much a must if you plan to have a MongoDB server as part of your dev environment on your home box - Mongo by design eats all the RAM it can find to map files to, and if you have Apache, Solr and MySQL running on the same box, things can get ugly :) ~~~ someone_here Why do applications think they can manage my memory better than my kernel? ~~~ mathias_10gen Actually, MongoDB _does_ leave memory management to the kernel by using MMAP to access data files. Most kernels will allocate a lot of memory to the disk cache, which can make it look like mongo is eating all of your ram. ~~~ wanderr This. It's one of the brilliant things about mongo. The downside is that after a reboot it's up to you to get the OS to warm those caches back up. ------ Bootvis One tip for the overly enthusiastic (like me): Unfortunately Vagrant does not work on Windows 7 64 bit (yet). See: <https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/issues/issue/194> ------ wanderr Our servers run CentOS. None of our developers would dream of running that as a desktop OS. Some just use Ubuntu and call that good, but I like to have my testing environment as identical to production as possible, so I took an ancient laptop with a busted display and slapped CentOS on it. As I mentioned in another comment, I set up samba so I can have apache pointing directly to my project folder on my dev machine. It makes for very convenient testing and it has helped me catch issues others didn't see on their distros, mostly because CentOS has ancient versions of everything and sometimes people don't realize they are relying on a feature that was introduced later. ------ codefisher If your really serious about developing stuff what will end up running on a Linux server, I think you should really be using Linux on the development machine. I know that is not always practical, but more people should do it. No one would dream of writing a Mac app on Windows, and I don't see why Linux should be any different. ~~~ reynolds If you're targeting a specific platform, it can make sense to use a virtual machine instead of installing that platform on your development machine. As far as code is concerned, it doesn't care that you're running it on a Linux VM inside a Windows dev machine rather than directly on a Linux dev machine. That being said, if you're trying to target Mac or Windows, it's generally a good idea to use that specific platform's tools. It's reasonable to develop Windows and Mac apps on Linux but it may not be the best environment to do so. It's really up to you as a developer to determine the best toolchain and processes based on what you're trying to accomplish. ------ shuaib Thanks for the great post. Came to know of vagrant for the first time reading this, and have instantly fell in love. ------ needyballsack How do you handle version control in this environment? Locally on the mac or in the virtual server? ~~~ garethr Personally I edit the code on my mac using gvim and run and use git on the VM. I've used ExpanDrive to mount the directory from the VM for editing previously but I've been moving towards using vagrant with it's NFS shares. ------ stretchwithme I just touched Test and test on mac and I see both of them just fine. ~~~ daxelrod On what filesystem? Certainly not the default HFS+, which is is case-insensitive but case- preserving. ~~~ stretchwithme It works as you described on my macbook. I was on my Mac at work before.
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John Allspaw Joins the Etsy Team - prakash http://www.etsy.com/storque/etsy-news/john-allspaw-joins-the-etsy-team-6183/ ====== look_lookatme I interviewed at flickr around 2006 when they were doing a big batch of recruiting post yahoo buyout. Everyone was super nice (I was pretty nervous), but I walked away most impressed by John Allspaw. He was smart, patient and funny during the 30 minutes or so that I spent with him. Since then I've read his blog and come to realize just how valuable to flickr he probably was. Everyone knows who Caterina and Stewart and Cal are, but I imagine Allspaw was every bit as important to their success. Nice pickup for Etsy.
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Pingdom being hosed by IP 104.131.86.169 (see recent tests) - ashitlerferad https://tools.pingdom.com ====== jake_rd wow looks like they're using pingdom to mine bitcoin ------ ashitlerferad ⋊> ~ whois 104.131.86.169 # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: [https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html](https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html) # # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at # [https://www.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/index.xhtml](https://www.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/index.xhtml) # # # The following results may also be obtained via: # [https://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=104.131.86.169?showDetail...](https://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=104.131.86.169?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&showNonArinTopLevelNet=false&ext=netref2) # NetRange: 104.131.0.0 - 104.131.255.255 CIDR: 104.131.0.0/16 NetName: DIGITALOCEAN-9 NetHandle: NET-104-131-0-0-1 Parent: NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0) NetType: Direct Allocation OriginAS: AS46652, AS14061, AS393406, AS62567 Organization: DigitalOcean, LLC (DO-13) RegDate: 2014-06-02 Updated: 2014-06-02 Comment: [http://www.digitalocean.com](http://www.digitalocean.com) Comment: Simple Cloud Hosting Ref: [https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-131-0-0-1](https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-131-0-0-1) OrgName: DigitalOcean, LLC OrgId: DO-13 Address: 101 Ave of the Americas Address: 10th Floor City: New York StateProv: NY PostalCode: 10013 Country: US RegDate: 2012-05-14 Updated: 2017-07-03 Comment: [http://www.digitalocean.com](http://www.digitalocean.com) Comment: Simple Cloud Hosting Ref: [https://whois.arin.net/rest/org/DO-13](https://whois.arin.net/rest/org/DO-13) OrgTechHandle: NOC32014-ARIN OrgTechName: Network Operations Center OrgTechPhone: +1-347-875-6044 OrgTechEmail: noc@digitalocean.com OrgTechRef: [https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC32014-ARIN](https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC32014-ARIN) OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE5232-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Abuse, DigitalOcean OrgAbusePhone: +1-347-875-6044 OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@digitalocean.com OrgAbuseRef: [https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE5232-ARIN](https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE5232-ARIN) OrgNOCHandle: NOC32014-ARIN OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center OrgNOCPhone: +1-347-875-6044 OrgNOCEmail: noc@digitalocean.com OrgNOCRef: [https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC32014-ARIN](https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC32014-ARIN) # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: [https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html](https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html) # # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at # [https://www.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/index.xhtml](https://www.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/index.xhtml)
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A grandmother made a forest on her own [video] - happy-go-lucky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEQZDHnAb4 ====== qubex My mother passed away when I was 11, in 1992. My grandfather, who owned property outside of Bristol (UK), planted a forest in her memory and named it “Pam’s Wood”. He said that memories fade but that the forrest would grow higher and thicker as time went by and that even in the far future his daughter’s name would be remembered even though everybody who had ever known her had long passed away. ~~~ growlist Wish I could do this near where I live in the UK, but even non-arable land etc. is getting stupidly expensive. Apparently this is a big unresolved issue with the recent drive to plant more trees. ~~~ grovehaw You don't have to own land to plant trees. The Colne Valley Tree Society has planted more than 300 000 since the mid 60s.[0] It has made a big difference to the quality of life in the area. [0] [https://colnevalleytreesociety.blogspot.com/](https://colnevalleytreesociety.blogspot.com/) ------ sudhirj I think her biggest achievement will be that she's grown a love of the environment in her children and grandchildren. They all sound deeply knowledgeable about the forest, which is much more than treating it as a playground. ------ elorant Reminds me of this, also from India: [https://interestingengineering.com/jadav-payeng-the-man- who-...](https://interestingengineering.com/jadav-payeng-the-man-who-planted- an-entire-forest-by-himself) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkZDSqyE1do](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkZDSqyE1do) ~~~ foobarian Along those lines: [https://www.odditycentral.com/architecture/man- spends-23-yea...](https://www.odditycentral.com/architecture/man- spends-23-years-carving-sprawling-underground-temple-under-his-house.html) Makes me really sad about the water table where I live (MA) :) ------ vishnugupta I instinctively knew this would be in India, specifically south India. Here’s a similar story where a lady planted and grew 8000 roadside trees [https://youtu.be/AHY45HSB-e8](https://youtu.be/AHY45HSB-e8) ------ onetimemanytime I'm always amazed at people with HUGE backyards and acreage...everything is so manicured. Why? To me it makes no sense, a real forest is very relaxing (Granted they may have a real forest 500yards away) ~~~ noelwelsh Lawns originated as a display of wealth, showing that you were so wealthy you could afford to have land that wasn't devoted to growing food. This attitude persists, even though the origin is forgotten; the majority of people hanker after displays of status even if they don't consciously understand what they are doing. I don't agree with it (I think lawns are stupid and forests are great) but that's the way it is. To change it would take concerted public education. I believe some US states (Colorado?) have efforts to encourage people to plant native species, for example. When I lived in Australia there were some fairly half-hearted efforts to do the same (though the majority of people still had stupidly wasteful lawns; Australia is mostly desert, it shouldn't look like the UK y'all.) ~~~ pjc50 > Australia is mostly desert, it shouldn't look like the UK y'all. This is the big problem - lawns kind of make sense if you're trying to be a tiny Capability Brown emulating the English countryside, but outside of the temperate maritime climate they're highly unnatural and have to be kept on life support. ~~~ pvaldes Is a desert now, but that shouldn't prevent us to restore a bit of the old australian forests here and there. Some places in Australia have much more water and are typically forested. ------ JoeAltmaier Sounds like a lifelong project, but you could do it too! If you have a little land, a healthy forest needs only 100 trees per acre. You can plant a couple of acres in a weekend... ~~~ fiter You say 100 trees per acre, but Afforestt says 100 trees per 30 sq meters (0.0074 acre)[0][1]! (This is equivalent to 121,000 per acre.) A mature forest may only need 100 trees per acre, but it may take a much larger density to get it started. You may need the soil shaded to keep the soil and leaf fall moist. You may need the trees to shade eachother. You may need the trees to share resources through their roots. You may need the trees to protect each other from the wind. [0] [https://fellowsblog.ted.com/how-to-grow-a-forest-really- real...](https://fellowsblog.ted.com/how-to-grow-a-forest-really-really- fast-d27df202ba09) [1] [https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgofw7noxmpfwxg/Miyawaki%20Methodo...](https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgofw7noxmpfwxg/Miyawaki%20Methodology%20Explained.pdf?dl=0) ~~~ JoeAltmaier Mulch. They grow fine at 100/acre. We're not talking growing timber for harvest here. Its an urban forest. ------ daodedickinson My mother is curating something similar. Wish I could afford a relationship and children even more so.
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SingPath is the most FUN way to practice software languages - tea-anemone http://www.singpath.com/eli/index.html ====== koopajah Could be nice to have one or two examples before having to sign up. I will not give my gmail and/or facebook information without being sure I would use the site.
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Grieving for Apple - mrzool https://wincent.com/blog/grieving-for-apple ====== vessenes I'm sure there's a word coined for these 'death of Apple' posts. It is true that my 2020 Macbook Pro 16 is not as much better than the competition as my 2011 Macbook Air was. But it is still definitely the best laptop I've ever owned. I keep my laptops, and I can reach for whichever one I want: 2011, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2018 in Air, 13", 15" and now 16" form factors, and I choose the 2020. I also daily reject a number of windows and Chromebook pieces of hardware in favor of the MBP16. When I don't choose it, I most often choose my iPad pro at times or my iPhone. A thorough and hard ecosystem-level look at realistic competitors just doesn't turn up anything that even comes close in terms of just "working". Probably the closest would be an XPS developer running Ubuntu, but that is a completely different experience than the 'it just works' world I get to live in with my Macbook. And, by "it just works", I include a decent package manager with homebrew, a very solid neovim or spacemacs development environment, a fully working highdpi environment without 'quirks', ... the list goes on. And, Windows has no Unix underneath it plus it contains ads in the start menu. For me, it's just not a serious option for real work. In all, I'd say that most people agree with me; the market seems to prefer this hardware. ~~~ itsraining My 2020 MacBook Pro 16 crashes frequently when it goes to sleep. [https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251223766](https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251223766) This has been a downgrade for me. ~~~ wilkowskidom I had the same. Disabling power nap did it for me. If this doesn’t help I read disabling graphic switching does it. But yeah it’s redicules that We have to deal with this on a $3k laptop ~~~ blondin hold on, disabling power nap won't fixes the auto log outs. it's a (new?) security setting. one sec... alright okay. for anyone having the issue, you have to go to your "security & privacy" -> click on padlock -> enter password -> click on "advanced". in the sheet disable "Log out after X min of inactivity". ------ stevencorona I recently (3 weeks ago) switched from OS X to Ubuntu 20.04 after a decade of using macs as my primary desktop for software development. I hadn't used desktop linux in about 15 years and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. Everything that I remembered being difficult was straightforward. My AMD graphics card worked out of the box with dual monitors. Bluetooth, wifi, HiDPI (two 5K displays), USB plug and play, volume buttons on my keyboard, all seamless. There are still a few quirks here and there (mainly HiDPI in some apps like Spotify, which there are workarounds for), but I'm happy with my setup and don't plan on moving back. With Firefox, VS Code, Slack, Spotify, and 1Password X all being cross- platform my workflow didn't even change. ~~~ acidburnNSA Add to that excitement the new System 76 Lemur Pro 14" 2.2 lbs laptop with 40 GB of RAM and a massive 73 Wh battery and you're really going to be excited [1]. I got one recently (moving up from an old Sony Vaio). I've been daily driver on linux for about a decade now and have to agree that it's awesome now. [1] [https://system76.com/laptops/lemur](https://system76.com/laptops/lemur) ~~~ jjice The price scared me at first, but I had to remember the cost of the new MBP. Very impressive for the cost, and the 2.2 lb weight is really great, especially for a 14". If I was looking for a laptop to serve as my main machine, I could see this being a really strong competitor. Seems like a great machine, as long as you're a Linux user. ~~~ pfranz When I was comparing Mac laptops to PC alternatives they usually ended up within a few hundred dollars. Sure, saving a few hundred dollars is nice, but I'm fairly confident I can sell the Mac in a handful of years for a decent price, confident I'll use it for a handful of years, I'm familiar with the build quality and avenues for parts and replacements, and things like trackpad, biometrics/fingerprint, and battery life are a known quantity for me on a Mac. Saving only 10-15% made it less appealing to make the jump-- conversely, I can see people not wanting to pay an extra 10-15% to jump to a Mac. ------ anorphirith I went through the same cycle or frustration from apple products, I've bought 6 laptops in the past year trying out all of the competition. The truth is, all of the alternatives, as frustrating as apple products can be, are just not as good. And that's by a very very long shot. However fucked apple products are, the competition is FAR behind. So I just swallow it and keep biting the bullet. That only applies if you want a LAPTOP, if you can live in with something fixed to a desk, there's plenty of viable better alternatives out there. ~~~ m0xte I disagree. I got rid of a 2013 MBP and a 2019 MBA and went back to a thinkpad T470 running Windows 10. 300% less of a pain in the ass. Keyboard works reliably and isn’t horrible, doesn’t get ridiculously hot, actually has enough USB holes, can actually drive it from the keyboard without tying my fingers in knots, battery lasts longer, less fighting against the OS, less bugs (that one hurt to write) and it doesn’t give me a rash that bleeds on my wrists. CPU, memory, storage is about the same as a high end MBA. Display is 1080p so runs at 125% scale which is pretty good. If I break it I just get another one off eBay in 48h turnaround for less than the price of just a new screen for the MBA. Oh and it docks too and I get triple head displays... ~~~ danlugo92 You're right about everything except high dpi handling. Also can't beat Apple on trackpad and screen quality. ~~~ m0xte I hardly miss the Retina display. The 1080p display with 125% scaling is good enough. It’s not spectacular but fine for a laptop. The trackpad I didn’t like on the MacBook either. I found it made my finger tips sore after a few hours. I’m using the TrackPoint on the T470 and have the touchpad disabled ------ supernova87a If the touch bar (which I agree is useless, or worse, actively counterproductive) is the worst thing he's annoyed by, then Apple is doing pretty well for a computer manufacturer selling 20M units annually, don't you think? I think we have to have some self-realization that the gripes that appear here generally are so specialized (the MacOS Catalina notarization problem just today) that if you sit here you think the world is coming to an end. Yet millions of people purchase and seem to get along just fine with buying what Apple is offering. Now, admittedly, one of the great selling points of Apple Mac is that its power features are (were) designed exactly for developers and professionals to be easy and high-performing, so they need to pay attention to it. But they generally do, don't they? The notarization problem above, let's revisit in 1 month and see if it got some attention? I'm just saying that it's easy for your threshold for what's unacceptable has a tendency to keep on rising, and you get unhappy with smaller and smaller things. It's important to keep a perspective about it. If it is truly horrible what Apple is doing or becoming, well of course you know that Mac / Chrome / your favorite app or hardware were all born out of being unhappy with what someone else built, and going out to build something new themselves. Everyone is absolutely free to go and invent the next better thing and displace the old and tired. ~~~ cosmotic Selling well doesn't always mean doing well or doing good. IT departments for companies that give their staff macs will buy whatever garbage Apple makes available because they have no other option. Same with consumers stuck in the Apple ecosystem. I've been holding out on buying a mac for nearly a decade because they have no compelling products. I'm stuck using a hackintosh workstation and a crappy windows laptop for on the go. ~~~ scarface74 Right, because most of Apple sells come from the Enterprise. Apple has a long history of going out of its way to support big enterprise to convince them to buy Macs. ------ brokencode If you really believe that a company can churn out nothing but perfect products over and over again without making any mistakes, then maybe you have been drinking too much of Apple’s Kool-Aid. Every top company has good and bad generations of products, and Apple is no different. This type of post complaining about Apple losing its soul and dying has been coming out regularly for at least the decade since I’ve been following Apple, and probably back way farther than that. Something about Apple makes it an irresistible target for this kind of criticism for some reason. Check out the MacRumors forums for examples.. it’s a group of people who track every move Apple makes, yet overwhelmingly complain about every potential flaw. That’s not saying that there aren’t flaws to criticize about Apple’s products, which there certainly are. But the level of vitriol is extreme compared to what I see directed towards most other companies (except video game companies.. gamers are a tough crowd). ~~~ thomascgalvin I don't think Apple should be held to a "no mistakes" standard, but for the last few years, the trend has been toward less functionality and more user- hostility. Take the drop of 32 bit support. There are now huge swaths of software, software that I paid a lot of money for, that I can no longer use if I buy new Apple hardware or upgrade to the latest MacOS. There are bright spots, too. The new keyboards are much, much better than the butterflies, and the physical escape key is a welcome return. But in general, when Apple announces something new, I'm worried about what they're going to take away from me, not what they're going to start offering. ~~~ scarface74 Apple hasn’t shipped a 32 bit Mac since 2006. How long was Apple suppose to keep support for 32 bit software? Should they also have kept support for PPC software? 68K software? ~~~ dmitriid > Apple hasn’t shipped a 32 bit Mac since 2006. So, they could easily have given developers a roadmap/timeline of 13 years saying "in 2020 we're going to deprecate 32bit software, please upgrade". Instead, they gave everyone less than two years. In comparison, the switch from PowerPC to Intel took over four years. And this was at the time when MacOS had significantly less software available on it. Apple themselves released the last version of software that supported PowerPCs _7 years_ after the announcement of the transition. ~~~ scarface74 They kind of did when they announced Carbon wouldn’t have 64 bit support over five years ago. PowerPC support was dropped in 10.7 three versions after the first Intel Macs came out. It was an optional download in 10.6. ------ save_ferris I completely agree with all of this. From the costly obsession with creating an ever-thinner MBP at the expense of usability, to the demonstrably hostile removal of Target Display Mode in the iMac and beyond, it’s pretty clear Apple stopped designing their “pro” products for their pro users some time ago. They’ve gotten way too comfy with their position in the personal computing space and I too am regularly looking at the alternatives. If the last 5 years are any indication of how the rumored ARM migration is going to be, then we’re in for a really rough ride. ~~~ tonyedgecombe _From the costly obsession with creating an ever-thinner MBP at the expense of usability_ The latest MacBook Pro is thicker than its predecessor. ------ zackmorris I just started writing up a big spiel about the constant daily agonies I endure while using my older Apple hardware, but after a half an hour of it, I abandoned it. It would take me a few days to write out the list of grievances that started when the iPhone arrived, and how Apple splitting its attention between desktop and mobile began the long, slow decline, and how it is reminiscent of the old Apple/Macintosh internal wars that almost brought down the company. Basically what it comes down to is that Apple has a trillion dollars, and that's great and everything, but it means that it's the establishment so it can't innovate anymore. The bottom line is now its top priority. For Apple to save its reputation in the eyes of geeks everywhere, it would have to listen to any geek anywhere. It would have to stare at the ground quietly as the grievances are aired, and then have the maturity to grok what it's heard and do something about the problems. I know it has teams of engineers working on this stuff day and night, and even has a great CEO and everything else. But sometimes in spite of all of that stuff, companies flounder. It's just especially tragic when it's this dream company that got countless millions of people interested in tech initially. Seriously, take a break Apple. Put all the grand plans aside for a while and listen. I guess that's it. Sorry this came out kinda harsh, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. ~~~ scarface74 Why do you think Apple cares about the “geek”? ~~~ dmitriid Because somehow they still pretend to care about power and professional users. ~~~ ulisesrmzroche Programmers are not the only power users ~~~ dmitriid I know. That's why I didn't say programmers. The bad quality of their hardware and software affects all power/pro users. ------ _bxg1 I don't disagree with the thesis, but I was disappointed to see yet another rehashing of tired power-user nitpicks about MBPro hardware details, some of which have even been phased out already. The opening made me hopeful I was about to read a thoughtful piece about what's changed in Apple's soul, but instead all I got was an unoriginal rant. ------ 8bitsrule The Apple I cared about died when the Macintosh arrived. Or was it when the rainbow logo was replaced by chrome? Or was it when they abandoned Hypercard? Or when I had to spend hours researching how to tweak the serial port to do 31250 bps I/O MIDI? Or when the serial ports disappeared and my n x $1000 of serial-port hardware meant I should buy a new Mac. By the time it released mobile phones with hard-wired batteries, the good Apple was a distant memory. Borged. ------ ncmncm Mention of Stockholm Syndrome, in the article, is the key. Current customers are self-selected as willing to endure any degree of degradation, provided it is arrived at via sufficiently small steps. Apple is fully equipped and enabled to provide well-above-average quality products and admirable service by the high premium they charge, but instead they pocket the difference, every time. Customers are left with the dubious benefit of price-signaling, which is increasingly shading into sucker- signaling. I get that, looking only at Microsoft, it is hard to imagine stepping down. But that was never the only alternative. ------ agentdrtran Ah good, I was worried we'd go more than a month without one of these. ------ fmajid Pretty much how I feel, except I have less sadness and more anger. I haven’t bought a Mac laptop since 2015, and I bought 4 PC ones to test my migration path to Linux, even if it proceeds glacially due to having other things to do, and in any case 15 years of workflow takes a while to switch. ------ m0zg After 15 years of using Apple exclusively for my "creative" work (music, photo, video), I've switched back to Windows 10 for those needs. Paid work is still 100% Linux (including the laptop I'm typing this on), but I ain't payin' $6K for a workstation, sorry Tim. Especially if I can't use an NVIDIA GPU in it. And HP Z32 4K monitor costs $200 less than the Apple _display stand_. ------ hbrown92 I couldn’t agree more, I wish a new innovative platform would emerge. Apple is too comfortable and their products just aren’t worth it anymore. ~~~ linguae My dream platform would be essentially a revival of OpenDoc ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFJdjk2rq4E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFJdjk2rq4E)), except it's built on top of the Common Lisp Object System, a dynamic object system that supports multiple dispatch. Users can integrate components either programmatically (like Unix pipes but with even more flexibility) or through a GUI interface. GUI programs would be written in such a way where its UX is highly flexible. The desktop environment should be fully themable, and GUI programs written for this environment must comply with these themes. This themability allows users to choose how they want their desktop environment to look. If they like Material Design, they can use a desktop that adheres to those standards. If they like classic UIs like those from the classic Mac OS or Windows 95, then can choose those options and the programs would fit those standards. They can use themes that have entirely different design standards. The goals of my dream platform would be composability and flexibility, the complete opposite of monolithic applications and opinionated UI/UX design. This would run on Linux/BSD and would be implemented in Common Lisp, though there will need to be some ways to allow programs written in other languages to access CLOS objects since developers should be able to code in the languages of their choice. ------ turtlebits I thought everyone knew that you waited at least a year on Apple hardware and software. I'm still on 10.14 and have no problems with it. That said, I don't get the hate on number of ports. USB type-C is a godsend - single cable to my monitor which provides power and USB hub. I'm probably also in the minority on this one- I just got a new 16" Macbook Pro work laptop, and I much prefer the keyboard on my 2018 15". The esc/touch ID now being buttons are great. The speakers are amazing. ------ d3ntb3ev1l I tried a world without Apple and lasted 2 months. I switched to a top of the line Pixel phone (which is now in a box) and top of the link thinkpad. (Sold it for next to nothing). Overall I am glad we have choices. Everyone should make the ones that work for them. Give Google can’t make a decent android phone or watch after significant acquisitions and investments, building real amazing things that make your life better is hard. I’m glad lots of people still are trying hard. ------ D13Fd I disagree. On ports, 4 is enough. At home and at work, I use standard Thunderbolt docking stations, so ports on the laptop are irrelevant. When traveling, I typically use at most 2 HDDs, so 4 ports is plenty. I’d honestly rather have the battery life than the ports. On the keyboard, they’ve fixed it in the new laptops. I agree it was awful for a long stretch there. On the annoying prompts, they are there for security, and I think they made the right call generally. Everyone thinks security is so annoying, right up until they get rooted. On the Touch Bar, I think they missed the mark, but I appreciate the fact that they are innovating. And in the end it’s an OK replacement for the function keys (now that there is a physical escape key). On the OS phoning out before running executables etc, I agree that it sounds like a poor implementation overall. That said, I’ve never noticed any delays from it in my 2016 MBP. All that said, I always think it’s a good idea to try new things, and there is no harm in switching brands/OS’s/etc. As others noted, so much software is cross platform these days that switching is much less of a commitment than it used to be. ------ topkai22 Apple is a phone company that has a side business in personal computers. This is good for Apple, because the personal computer business as a whole has been pretty stagnant for a long time. The article would have been much improved by at least making a nod to the fact that their beloved computer make was now in fact primarily making other devices ------ kilo_bravo_3 >it’s becoming increasingly obvious that the Apple I once loved is moribund If there is anything more pathetic than an adult expressing love for a publicly traded corporate entity regardless of what they make or where they're from or how cool their marketing is, I haven't found it. edit: Never mind-- writing a 1600 word essay about the lover-who-must- file-10Qs who is disappointing you and then publishing it online is definitely more pathetic. Compare and contrast: 1\. it's increasingly obvious that the White Rock Beverage Company, Inc. I once loved is moribund (followed by a SIXTEEN HUNDRED WORD ESSAY about how they changed the recipe of Sioux City Root Beer and it sucks now) 2\. it's increasingly obvious that the Apple, Inc. I once loved is moribund (followed by a SIXTEEN HUNDRED WORD ESSAY about how their laptops suck now) ------ theonemind Hmm. The way I see it, Apple still seems to have the same basic attitude of high-value of aesthetics over function and a "my-way-or-the-highway" attitude, backed by just a bit less creativity in innovating actual function. It doesn't seem that much different, but a little less satisfying, ultimately. ------ luord I rarely use the mac that my company issued to me, but I couldn't place my finger on why exactly. It's a general feeling that everything about it is obnoxious and cumbersome. Probably the sum of all the little things (and more) mentioned in this comment. This was curiosly not the case the last time I was issued a mac, which I used pretty much all the time and not just for work; essentially replacing my personal (Linux) device. That was a 2016 model, when this trend had already started, so I guess everything has exacerbated in the three years since. ------ purplezooey Apple is not alone in making janky laptops since 2015. Most of them are junk. They all get too hot, have too much brittle plastic, and low rez displays unless you want to pay a high premium. I've been liking the Chuwi laptops for $200. At least if you get a cheap laptop, pay a cheap price. ------ brandonmenc > I bought a refurbished mid-2015 model which I love. From a utility > perspective, it’s the best laptop they’ve ever made, with a bunch of stuff > that you’d reasonably expect to find on a "pro" Apple laptop: namely, 8 > ports/slots Only two of which are actual USB ports. I'd still have to carry around a hub to use it with my mobile music production setup. ------ stanislavb OK, let's craft a way out. ------ monadic2 It's profit-driven software, dummy. ~~~ cosmotic Apple seems to be driving their software toward what they _think_ the consumer wants (and maybe even what the consumer says they want, or even choses to buy because of), instead of what the customer _actually needs_. Yes, the customer might feel enamored with what's being sold, but they could have been even more enamored had Apple focused properly. ~~~ scarface74 Well, if it wasn’t what the _consumer_ wants, then why are consumers still buying their products at a premium? Maybe it’s just not what a few outspoken geeks want. ~~~ monadic2 Customers do buy what they want relative to other products in the market, but absolute satisfaction could still be broadly low across the board. The incentive to fix commonly complained about problems is tied entirely to the speed to which their competitors respond—shared incentives prevent the market from improving as a whole through competition. This is especially true in markets where the capital investment required for entry is in the billions of dollars, like smartphones, operating systems, vehicles and other patented infrastructure (looking at you, john deere). Overall the claim should be that “customers buy what they want from available products”, so that the one can not claim the converse, that a customer is necessarily satisfied with the products they purchase. ------ wedgeantilles Buy something else then. ~~~ 0xDEEPFAC He is going to, as he says at the bottom of the article, and he has bought 2015 refurbished models to avoid the headaches.... lol? ------ thebiglebrewski Amen ------ plerpin I had a similarly emotional schisms with Apple, but back in 1997. I finally became aware of Apple's penchant for designing "road apples" to fuck cost- conscious consumers. I worked hard as a teen to buy my 62XX Performa, but later when I found out that it was a piece of shit because Apple deliberately designed it as a piece of shit... well, fuck them, really. No respect for their buyers. I switched to Windows in 1998 and didn't look back. [https://lowendmac.com/2014/road-apples-second-class- macs/](https://lowendmac.com/2014/road-apples-second-class-macs/) ~~~ scarface74 Apple has never catered to “cost conscience” computers. Even back in the early 80s the 8 bit Apple //e’s were more expensive than competitors. T
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Why we will never see a 15-hour work week - showsover http://www.sphere-engineering.com/blog/15-hour-work-week.html? ====== informatimago Indeed, but the point is that we're about to see a systemic change.
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Show HN: GatePlay, HTML5 logic circuit simulator - greglo http://greglo.github.io/gateplay/ I created a logic circuit simulator called GatePlay - aimed for casual use by beginners&#x2F;students, but the simulation is not over simplified.<p>I know of a couple of small bugs already, but feedback would be awesome!<p>Use it: http:&#x2F;&#x2F;greglo.github.io&#x2F;gateplay&#x2F; GitHub: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;greglo&#x2F;gateplay ====== greglo I created a logic circuit simulator called GatePlay - aimed for casual use by beginners/students, but the simulation is not over simplified. I know of a couple of small bugs already, but feedback would be awesome! Use it: [http://greglo.github.io/gateplay/](http://greglo.github.io/gateplay/) GitHub: [https://github.com/greglo/gateplay](https://github.com/greglo/gateplay)
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Convert sqlite results to json consumable dicts [python] - khubo https://github.com/khubo/sqliteJson ====== brudgers If it meets the guidelines, this might make a good 'Show HN'. Show HN guidelines: [https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html](https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html) ~~~ khubo I will do it. thanks :D
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X is business value - teej http://unethicalblogger.com/2011/11/18/x-as-business-value.html ====== hello-trolls obvious
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What Happens When Web Services Do Not Backup? - martey http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/01/13/who-protects-your-cloud-data/ ====== tlrobinson I'm not too surprised. I was just reading a blog post ([http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/zoho_omnidrive_data_sta...](http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/zoho_omnidrive_data_standards.php)) from a year ago, in which the CEO of Omnidrive posted a mistake-ridden comment defending their decision not to use WebDAV. "The reason why you can't write a WebDAV client in Javascript is because XmlHttpResponse() is a HTTP function, not a WebDAV function" Huh?
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It's Harder to Read Code than to Write It - edw519 http://www.jakevoytko.com/blog/2007/12/22/reading-comprehension-will-make-you-a-better-programmer/ ====== cduan Great post, so true. One point I'd add, though: when you're writing code, make it readable by commenting well! Sure it's obvious to you why you used a ternary operator expression that uses a postfix-decrement operator and raises an exception, but that's not clear to me. Until you tell me that you're testing to see if an object reference count is zero, decrementing it if not, and raising an error if so. Good comments are tedious work and seem pointless at the time, but just wait until you're reading your own code two weeks later, or even worse, someone else's. The time you spent explaining yourself frequently makes up for the time you'll waste later reimplementing what you did the last time around. ~~~ jamesbritt > Until you tell me that you're testing to see if an object reference count is > zero, decrementing it if not, and raising an error if so. But that won't tell me _why_ your code is doing what it's doing > Good comments are tedious work and seem pointless at the time, Good comments should make you think about your code, not be some pain point you are compelled to endure. If you think it's tedious and pointless, there is a good chance the reader (quite possibly yourself not to far in the future) will consider the comment tedious and pointless as well. ~~~ cduan > But that won't tell me why your code is doing what it's doing Indeed, that's what the rest of the comment is for. > Good comments should make you think about your code, not be some pain point > you are compelled to endure. Fair point. Yet the fact is that many people enjoy neither commenting nor thinking about their own code, and that's not going to change. The question is how to convince people to write good documentation in the face of intrinsic motivations not to do so, and I think the best persuasion is a reminder of how they will use that documentation later. ------ gruseom It's harder to read _bad_ code than to write it. ~~~ parbo No, _bad_ code is really easy to write. ~~~ gruseom Am I missing something, or was one of us up too late? :) ~~~ brlewis No, one of you didn't go to bed early enough. ;-)
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Ask HN/YC/PG: Dealing with tax and accounting - markbao (Focusing on the US) So, how do you deal with tax (and on a side note, accounting?) If I remember correctly, YC companies are incorporated as C corps (which means both double taxation and a bit of hassle with IRS forms and such.)<p>More specifically, what does your company do with the profits at your company that are distributed to the founders? In other words, do you keep all the cash inside the company accounts and pay out a small living salary? Do you pay dividends based on the equity table of the startup (and thus dividend tax comes in?) Do you have an accounting firm or just do it all yourself and throw it in EFTPS?<p>PG, if you're reading this: what do the YC companies do in terms of tax? Does YC have accounting firm connections, or do YC companies manage it by themselves?<p>Why am I asking this? Albeit being really important for startups that are incorporated to consider, I don't hear much about tax talked about here, for something that takes a minimum of 15% of your cash to the FDA^W IRS. ====== pg As a rule, technology startups don't distribute profits till they approach senescence and investors no longer trust them to invest their profits in their own expansion. E.g. Microsoft, which was founded in 1975, didn't pay dividends till 2003. YC companies usually hire accountants when they raise enough money to. Before that the founders keep track of finances themselves using Quickbooks (or a shoebox full of receipts). ~~~ j_baker This is going to sound dumb, but why do you use the word senescence here rather than maturity? They both seem to mean the same thing. Does it have some specific business meaning, or is it just another way of saying the same thing? ~~~ pg Senescence implies decay. ~~~ j_baker I see. So a difference in connotation. ------ petenixey If you don't have a significant number of investors then dividends can be a good way to save on income tax. If you do have investors however you're throwing company money back to them which is not good for you and not that good for them. For smaller companies the vast majority of accounting is not accounting but just book keeping. This is actually easier than it seems (it took me 4 years to realise this though) and is much easier if you use www.xero.com than Quickbooks. I hated all the usual "accounting" packages as they didn't guide me. Xero does a great job and whilst not perfect is definitely the best of the bunch and worth the monthly fee. From having run 3 (small) companies this is what I now focus on: 1\. Making sure I keep a note of everything that I spend and what it was (if you ignore everything else, _do this_ ) 2\. Keep a note of which account I spent it from e.g. petty cash, bank account, paid directly by me 3\. Making my "list of accounts" (i.e. categories of spending) meaningful to me and ignoring all the numbers that accountants give to them. Whether it's "domestic flights", "taxis", "computer hardware" or "web services" - I make sure it's a category that's meaningful and actionable 4\. Paying my salary taxes when they're due & use a payroll company 5\. (easy if you've done the others well) Filing my tax return on time It's through getting all of these wrong that I've learned which ones were right :) One last thing that I've found _very helpful_ is having a google spreadsheet form with a link on my iPhone homepage to enter the amont and detail of purchases as I make them. This makes it much easier when it comes to remembering what each individual bank transaction was for when you import them. ~~~ kevinelliott The only problem is, once you do desire to hire an accountant, they often want you to use Quickbooks. And, this can often be good because it'll save on how much time they spend on your file since they can easily open the file in their own Quickbooks, and thus reduces their fees. However, the front load to learn and understand Quickbooks costs you a lot of your own time. ~~~ swanhunt They want you to use Quickbooks (or any other software they request) because they don't want to have a learning curve. It's your business, so find someone that is willing to work with you. Besides a few laws in physics, everything is negotiable. ~~~ kevinelliott Indeed, but sometimes having flexibility ends up costing real dollars. ------ kevinelliott If you have put capital into the company, and assuming you did not loan it to the company but simply provided capital, you can track that in "capital accounts" in your accounting software, and then as profits are made you can withdraw that money, without any tax consequences, up to the amount you have contributed to the company. For any amount above contributions taxes must be paid. The corporation must pay corporate tax on any of the revenue it received, with exception to any deductions that match up, etc. If you have only provided sweat equity and are taking a draw against the income of the business, you must pay taxes on that income, in addition to the corporate tax (double taxation as you mentioned). In most cases, startups seem to be keeping as much money in the business and taking as small of a draw as possible. This is for a variety of reasons: avoiding double taxation while the business is young, having more capital available for growing the business, having more money available for investing than would be available if you drew the cash and took the tax hit, etc. But remember, people have to eat, and need a roof over their heads. Unhappy miserable people probably lend to lower productivity; some people would probably say the opposite, that uncomfortable unhappy situations make a person more jazzed up to "get things done" but I don't personally like that form of motivation. It makes a lot of sense to hire an accountant, specifically one that understands startups if possible. Sure, you could figure out all the technicalities of running the books on your own, and then managing the tax filings, but it's more complicated than personal taxes, and you're risking your startup legally. Also, these guys know what they are doing and can knock it out of the park, letting you focus on what you do best -- building your startup. ------ swanhunt The problem is that these questions really should be tailored to the company's details because that's how the decisions are made. YC sets up C corps so they can easily issue shares to VC. They would probably retain the cash as a part of the agreements with the VC to spend on growing the business. If that's not your plan, then alternative organization might make sense and will eliminate some of your tax fears. Also, if you have more of a lifestyle type business, then distributions would make sense. Do you start to see how the intent and details change the advice? Talking to someone when you are setting something new up or having a major change makes sense. That said, don't worry too much about the taxes. If you are so worried about not giving the government a cut that you don't make money, then you lost the point. What is it specifically that you want to know here? Details are what you need to give to get the advice you are looking for. ------ speby It just depends. If the profit towards the end of the year isn't too bad, it's possible to pay as much of that out as possible as a bonus to founders and/or employees. Obviously, the company pays taxes on the wages (state/federal/medicare/etc) and you personally pay income taxes, too. In some cases, this may be a lower, overall tax hit than paying the same amount out to founders as dividends only. It certainly depends on the total amount in question, too. It is possible to also retain most, or all, of the profits at the end of the year within the company. As was stated, though, corporate income taxes must be paid on that. Up to about $75,000, the tax rate is pretty low and not a huge deal but after that, corporate income taxes are pretty steep and as a young business, it's definitely good practice not to give Uncle Sam a dime more than you have to so if you have a huge windfall of profits, you might reconsider whether to retain it all or not. Another option is to report as much expense as possible so as to have deductions against the corporation's income. Naturally, this means spending actual money and giving it to someone else but it also means avoiding tax. So if you can do this with things the business needs (or even paying for some things way in advance and up-front), the loss in the time value of $ is still far less than the tax consequence that otherwise would have been incurred (example: pay for all of your hosting needs 6 months in advance before Dec 31st, provided you are on a cash accounting basis and a calendar fiscal year)
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Net Neutrality Protesters Arrested At Google HQ - hammock http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/25/occupygoogle-arrests/# ====== jack-r-abbit From the article: _Google has generally been a strong advocate of net neutrality but the OccupyGoogle protestors argue the company could be doing more to champion the cause at this critical moment – hence their occupation of Mountain View HQ._ I'm confused. Is it smart to find someone who is generally on your side and then set up camps on their campus and disrupt them... calling for them to do _more_? Isn't the _Occupy_ movement traditionally where you occupy the space of entities you oppose and try to make them suffer until they change? It doesn't makes sense to do that to someone you want on your side. I don't get it. ------ jonstjohn Did this protest make it into the event? I did hear some yelling during one of the keynote talks. ~~~ mmastrac The yelling during the keynote (at least the second one) was someone protecting killing robots and NSA integration.
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The perils of microtask work - okket https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/09/in-most-cases-online-microtask-work-can-be-a-raw-deal-un-study-finds/ ====== tenpoundhammer I think this particular example is a great example of what's difficult about the world right now. Technology has opened many new opportunities for corporations and for everyday people. However, the pace of new opportunities is way faster than the ability that governments have to regulate the new opportunities. It would seem that companies, entrepreneurs, and silicon valley have realized this and are using it as a business strategy. If I had to sum up the business strategy, I would say "Find a regularity system that can be exploited by rapid innovation". While it's always been a business strategy to exploit legal loopholes, I think the difference is that companies exploit an entire regulatory system which is harder to update and takes longer. Airbnb, Uber, Mechanical Turk, are all examples of exploiting a regulatory system by creating a product and then quickly scaling it up to mass adoption before the practices introduced can be outlawed. Once something has been massively adopted it's difficult to stop completely. While the word exploit seems inherently negative I'm not trying to make judgment value, I think it's the correct description. I don't have a strong opinion about any of these companies or exploiting regulatory systems. However, I do think that democracy needs to find a way to keep up with the forces taking advantage of its inherent systematic boundaries, such as being slow to react. I'm not sure what needs to change but I think when you have many US citizens participating in completely unregulated labor markets there is a problem that needs to be solved. ~~~ 394549 > I think the difference is that companies exploit an entire regulatory system > which is harder to update and takes longer. Airbnb, Uber, Mechanical Turk, > are all examples of exploiting a regulatory system by creating a product and > then quickly scaling it up to mass adoption before the practices introduced > can be outlawed. > Once something has been massively adopted it's difficult to stop completely. > ... > However, I do think that democracy needs to find a way to keep up with the > forces taking advantage of its inherent systematic boundaries, such as being > slow to react. I'm not sure what needs to change but I think when you have > many US citizens participating in completely unregulated labor markets there > is a problem that needs to be solved. I think the solution is that it be made _very clear_ to the companies pushing the regulatory boundaries (and their fans) that they should be prepared to have their business models destroyed when the regulatory environment catches up. Call it "Creative Destruction 2.0." ~~~ michaelbuckbee This feels too harsh. It's not that either the business models need destroyed or that regulations should never change, but that some middle ground is worked out that benefits society at large. All the services we're talking about have both real utility and (for the most part) unplanned costs and impacts. The Taxi Medallion system is/was horribly corrupt and inefficient. Uber (for all their faults) is an improvement in terms of safety, convenience and less discriminatory practices. Similarly, AirBnB isn't defacto a horrible presence in cities (tons of great experiences), but hosts should abide by neighborhood norms, pay hotel taxes, etc. ~~~ NeedMoreTea Uber, for all its faults, _may_ be a vast improvement on the USA approach to taxis. In many of the other countries Uber has presence it has done damage to a sector that was not horribly corrupt or inefficient. Yet the workers and governments still have to react to rule breaking that effectively treats everywhere on the planet as some US city with a broken and corrupt taxi system. In the UK I would call Uber a very marginal increase in convenience (all taxis have apps if that's your preferred method), but _absolutely and demonstrably_ significantly worse in terms of safety, discriminatory practices, and worker's incomes. So overall I don't think it is too harsh, at least here. ------ satyrnein I think the concept of "informed consent" is applicable here. Are the workers informed? Much like the question of whether Uber drivers properly factor in the cost of maintenance, it's possible that workers do not have the right expectations of what they will earn, so articles like this are helpful in adding context and information. Let it get around that these tasks make you less than minimum wage. Do the workers consent? Obviously they consent in at least some sense, so comparisons to slavery (as in the comments to the original article) are overblown. These workers are free to seek other options. However, it's also possible that they are correctly concluding this is their best option, due to lack of opportunity in their area, health reasons that make them immobile, etc. In that case, then two cheers for MTurk for improving their lives, to at least some extent. ~~~ jakelazaroff I take issue with your conclusion that "if the workers are correctly concluding this their best option, then cheers to Mechanical Turk for improving their lives to some extent". A less generous interpretation is that Amazon has identified a cohort of people with limited employment options and found a way to effectively pay them less than minimum wage. Is any job better than none to an unemployed person? Maybe — but we need money to live, and labor laws exist precisely to prevent employers from exploiting that. ~~~ twerpy_d The same wage that's a slap in the face to an American can be quite lucrative to someone in a lesser developed nation. Hits for pennies are a god send to those folks. ~~~ jakelazaroff Maybe so, but the article, parent comment and my comment are all referring to people for whom microtasks are _not_ a lucrative source of income. ------ sjbase > The survey counted unpaid work as "time spent looking for tasks, earning > qualifications, researching requesters through online forums, communicating > with requesters or clients and leaving reviews, as well as unpaid/rejected > tasks/tasks ultimately not submitted." These hidden costs are almost identical in the world of independent freelance work. Similar for "gig" workers as well. An Uber/Lyft driver told me he aims for 10 hours per day, which usually takes an extra 4 hours (14 total) of unpaid relocating, waiting around, etc. My hope is that people view this as the cost of autonomy, but I fear most people aren't pricing it in. ~~~ tomjen3 Presumably they would find out about those costs relatively fast. But I mean those costs have always been part of the reason freelancers are more expensive than employees (the other being the increased flexibility). What seems to happen now is that, increasingly, free lancers are cheaper, which suggests that employees are paid above the price they could expect, if there weren't rules about minimum wage. ~~~ s73v3r_ Freelancers had the ability to set their price. With most of these gig apps, you have exactly zero say in how much is being charged. ------ emodendroket Honestly, nothing here is surprising. It's amazing that this stuff operates without scrutiny. ------ jstanley I don't see the problem. People wouldn't do the tasks if they didn't think it was beneficial to them. ~~~ nkrisc People will sacrifice well-being in one area (ex.: mental health) for well- being in an other area (ex.: money for housing/food). That doesn't mean it isn't a problem. You seem to be assuming a perfectly rational world... ~~~ jstanley You seem to be assuming that you know what's best for other people. Why not leave it up to them? If you were to shut down MTurk I don't think the people who rely on it for money would thank you. ~~~ crc32 Your question amounts to "Why do we have employment law"? ~~~ beaconstudios more like "should we be creating employment law for microtask work?" which is more of an open question, especially if you consider what such legislation might look like and what effects it may have on the workers and clients alike. ~~~ xg15 What is so fundamentally different about microtask work that it would warrant no employment regulations? ~~~ beaconstudios well, a ton of things - it's much closer to freelance work than employment. Not that I'm even advocating for keeping it deregulated specifically - I was making the point that when considering regulation, the (often accidental) effects of said regulation need to be considered. You don't want to fall afoul of the Cobra effect and end up destroying a good thing. Regulation should be introduced to fix specific issues, not just because there aren't any yet. Especially if it's filling an important financial gap for people with low incomes.
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Show HN: Breathe – Peripheral Breath Trainer - filipeisho https://github.com/filipeisho/breathe/ ====== amar-laksh KISS Solution for Linux: imv breathe.gif -> imv: [https://github.com/eXeC64/imv](https://github.com/eXeC64/imv) (or any other really lightweight gif viewer) -> breathe.gif: [https://quietkit.com/img/box-breathing-4x-v03.gif](https://quietkit.com/img/box-breathing-4x-v03.gif) -> Set it to a custom shortcut and press q to close window. ~~~ b3ting I put this gif into a floating window, with a chrome extension using the Picture-in-Picture API: [https://googlechrome.github.io/samples/picture-in- picture/](https://googlechrome.github.io/samples/picture-in-picture/) Chrome extension: [https://github.com/b3ting/breathe](https://github.com/b3ting/breathe) ~~~ filipeisho I love it! I thought it wasn't going to stay on top when I switched to another app but it did, it works great ------ geoelectric I love this. I have ADHD and anxiety/stress issues where having occasional reminders to concentrate on myself and get back in touch with things like this actually really helps. One quick comment. Aside from speed control, which wouldn't be terrible, being able to resize it or park it in my menu bar (prefer that) would go a long way towards usability. ~~~ filipeisho I am glad you like it! This was a quick demo to see if it was useful for someone. I was hoping to implement the same idea on the menu bar and on the touch bar (for people who find a window annoying). A quick question: Why would you like to resize the window? To make it bigger or smaller? ~~~ geoelectric Smaller. I just need to see a hint in my peripheral vision to know I should use it, and only need it to be very obvious while I am using it. If you parked it in the menu bar, I could drop it down like a hanger when I needed it. I probably would _not_ suggest pulsing the menu bar icon itself or at least making that optional. Having something constantly pulsing in the corner of my eye wouldn't be great for flow. Having an occasional reminder to drop down the hanger might be nice though. ~~~ interleave I had the exact same experience. I put together a bare-bones menu bar app for macOS. See my comment above for the link! Edit: It does pulse within the menu bar which works for me, please let me know if you find it distracting. ------ hombre_fatal It should change color (even just shade) as a function of its radius so you can learn where it is in the cycle from deep peripheral vision. ~~~ nsomaru How would this work? My understanding is that there’s no colour in peripheral vision. I guess a change in shade/intensity would be enough? ~~~ BugWatch There is minimal color, yes, but I suppose one's brain will learn to "fake it" once it figures out size-color correlation during those times you're paying it direct attention. ------ owly [https://apps.apple.com/us/app/awesome-breathing-pacer- timer/...](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/awesome-breathing-pacer- timer/id1453087953) I’ve been using Awesome Breathing. Presumptuous name but simple and does the job. ------ voisin For those interested, James Nestor’s book, “Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art” [0] is absolutely fantastic on this subject. [0] [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48890486](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48890486) ------ apazzolini It would be cool to control Phillips Hue bulbs on this cadence as more of a background cue to breathe ------ hartator That's awesome. Is there a way to custom speed or it's actually what you should aim at? It feels super slow for me. ~~~ kioleanu That's actually how it should be. I think you should aim for 4 to 5 breaths per minute, I don't remember the exact number. The technique is described by Kelly McGonigal in "The Willpower Instict" as being the only scientifically proven "quick hack" to make your brain relax and focus. ~~~ filipeisho Yes! I hardcoded the app to make 4 seconds breathing in, 4 seconds holding your breath, 4 seconds breathing out and 4 seconds holding your breath again. ~~~ JohnKacz Perhaps instead of allowing full control you could have different modes? I like using the 4-7-8 Method[1] but there are lots of different breath exercises. [1] - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-C_VNM1Vd0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-C_VNM1Vd0) ~~~ filipeisho I am quite new to breathing exercises but I also like the 4-7-8 exercise a lot! I was thinking about implementing the most known exercises and then have the option to create your own exercises. A lot of people have been pointing out that the app was way too slow and that it was difficult for them to keep up... I think that maybe if they can increase progressively the duration with custom exercises they can adapt better (it's just a theory) ------ interleave I love this so much. Thank you! Especially for the "peripheral" part: For me it works better to "check-in" to the ongoing process once in a while than having to remember to start an app etc. What didn't work for me was the window-based approach because I could never find a good place to keep it. For whatever reason, I happen to use all four corners of my screen all the time (!). But I still wanted to have something peripheral! So with your inspiration, I created a basic MacOs Menu Bar application that animates the 4:4:4 ratio breathing. This works better for me personally now. -> [https://github.com/akaalias/menu-bar-breathing](https://github.com/akaalias/menu-bar-breathing) ------ michaelbruce Cool! Breathing ex are so powerful. I founded moonbird which is a personalised breathing trainer! Http://www.moonbird.life ------ jedimastert I just saw an EDC video[0] that featured a Komuso Shift[1], which is basically just a small metal tube that acts as a regulator to slow your breathing. I don't know what component of HackerNews enjoys "luxury" EDC items, but the idea of a hysical breath regulator is somewhat interesting to me. [0]: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVMGOfKdHQg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVMGOfKdHQg) [1]: [https://www.komusodesign.com/](https://www.komusodesign.com/) ~~~ evanlivingston Yo, is that an $85 dollar straw? ~~~ amelius > which is basically just a small metal tube that acts as a regulator to slow > your breathing. I'm curious if COVID facemasks have a similar beneficial effect on breathing. ------ mopierotti Very cool. It would be nice if it was cross-platform, but I understand that that would have been a bit beyond your 5 minute scope. (I use Mac, Windows, and Linux roughly the same amount daily) ~~~ schwinn140 Agreed! How about possibly converting this to an in-browser web app to get around the platform hurdles? ~~~ filipeisho Someone on the comments implemented a chrome extension that opens up a gif with the same ratios as breathe (4-4-4). It works great to be honest. Here is the link: [https://github.com/b3ting/breathe](https://github.com/b3ting/breathe) ------ nrjklk This is great! I think this would be quite cool as a chrome plugin (solves cross platform issue). You could also make the circle bigger every 20 mins or so to remind you to breathe and avoid distractions. Kindof like a pomodoro timer but where the break is breathing. ~~~ filipeisho Hi, I am glad you like it! Someone on the comments implemented a chrome extension that opens up a gif with the same ratios as breathe (4-4-4). It works great to be honest. Here is the link: [https://github.com/b3ting/breathe](https://github.com/b3ting/breathe) I think that the idea of breathe reminding you to do breathing exercises during regular intervals is great! ------ pivo Nice! I've been using for the last 10 minutes and find I sometimes miss the visual cues on my big monitor. It might be nice to have an option for subtle audible cues as well. ~~~ filipeisho I tried some iOS apps and some of them had audible cues as very low chords (they were very relaxing) but since I am someone that listens to music a lot I thought they would bother other people... Quick question: imagine I have a magic way to make you not miss any visual cues from the app, do you think it would still be nicer to have audible cues? ~~~ pivo Not knowing what you're thinking about makes it hard to answer that question but I'd be happy to give it a try! ------ weego There's a similar visual shared on mental health discords when people are suffering anxiety or panic attacks, though granted likely with a less accurate breath cycle [https://media1.tenor.com/images/80b6db690c2f50bd9a876ca0f70e...](https://media1.tenor.com/images/80b6db690c2f50bd9a876ca0f70e82d6/tenor.gif?itemid=8455215) ------ boncom99 It's so cool! I've been trying it for a few hours and it really work! Good job! ------ Kiro Can't breathe this slow even if I try. I normally breathe 30 times a minute. ~~~ GavinMcG If you're breathing both in and out 30 times per minute, you should probably speak to a doctor. There are a number of medical concerns that could be behind that, and rapid (and therefore shallow) breaths can fail to rid the body of carbon dioxide, making your blood overly acidic. ~~~ Kiro > making your blood overly acidic. What are the symptoms of that? I'm almost 40 and never had any health issues so far. The breaths are shallow but I'm surprised to hear my breathing is abnormal so I should probably speak to a doctor. ~~~ GavinMcG > Slowly developing, stable respiratory acidosis (as in COPD [chronic > obstructive pulmonary disease]) may be well tolerated, but patients may have > memory loss, sleep disturbances, excessive daytime sleepiness, and > personality changes. Signs include gait disturbance, tremor, blunted deep > tendon reflexes, myoclonic jerks, asterixis, and papilledema. [0] So, quite possibly nothing, or nothing you'd realize. Bodies are adept at compensating. But there are potential concerns, and also, a chronic (and compensated for) issue can acutely deteriorate. I am not a doctor, though. [0] [https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/endocrine-and- meta...](https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/endocrine-and-metabolic- disorders/acid-base-regulation-and-disorders/respiratory-acidosis) ------ ghostbrainalpha So simple and such a good idea. Have you noticed a difference in your anxiety or productivity? ~~~ filipeisho I have been using it all day and I felt way calmer. For me (I think I am a fast breather) it feels like I am meditating when I am able to follow the breathing exercise. Since it has been a day since I started using it I can't tell anything about productivity but what I can tell you I have been working happier :) ------ guzik How about having a real-time feedback regarding your breathing rate? ~~~ weego And how would it know your breathing rate? ~~~ rks404 Apple Watch but tied around your throat? ~~~ nrjklk lol ------ flaque I love this ~~~ filipeisho Thanks!
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Show HN: XZA.FR – a modern URL shortener - xza-fr https://xza.fr ====== caraujorenan Got the following error: # ActionController::InvalidAuthenticityToken in ShortnController#create > The browser returned a 'null' origin for a request with origin-based forgery protection turned on. This usually means you have the 'no-referrer' Referrer-Policy header enabled, or that you the request came from a site that refused to give its origin. This makes it impossible for Rails to verify the source of the requests. Likely the best solution is to change your referrer policy to something less strict like same-origin or strict-same-origin. If you cannot change the referrer policy, you can disable origin checking with the Rails.application.config.action_controller.forgery_protection_origin_check setting ~~~ xza-fr OK yes actually i see how you hit that error. fixed and thanks for telling me ------ xza-fr note that i haven't actually uploaded xza.fr/public/tar/source-code.tar yet, but will do soon!
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Show HN: Async Requests and Downloads Without Thinking About It (Python) - jelloslinger http://aiodownload.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ ====== jelloslinger Here is a python package I wrote a few months ago to make async requests and downloads more convenient. I haven't had much time to work on it lately so I thought I would give it some more exposure to the wild. Constructive feedback welcome.
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Grade levels could be a thing of the past in schools focused on competency - tokenadult http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/say-goodbye-fifth-grade-k-12-schools-test-competency-based-learning/ ====== paulhauggis In a PC world that we live in, with gems such as "everyone needs to get a trophy so they don't feel left out" that created the cultural problem we are now having with Millennials, I seriously doubt this will ever take hold in our public school systems. I wish we could allow smarter kids to excel, but to many, this will be seen as 'unfair' and an 'inequality that needs to be solved' by bringing everybody down to the lowest level. It seems to be the answer to every other 'inequality' these days...
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Appsumo + Crate = 10gb lifetime account! - sahillavingia http://appsumo.com/lets-crate-lifetime-file-sharing-promo/ ====== mbyrne I believe the correct equation is: Appsumo + Crate - $25 = 10gb lifetime account!
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Observation of Gravitational Waves from a Binary Black Hole Merger - specialp http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.061102 ====== japhyr I'm teaching a high school science class right now called "Are We Alone?" It's a survey class of what kind of objects exist in the Universe, and how we're scientifically attempting to answer the question of whether life exists anywhere other than Earth. It's going to be fun sharing this with the class today! ------ specialp We ramped up capacity. Massive traffic! Also, if you are looking for a good article on this from a field expert, we have a Physics Viewpoint on it here: [http://physics.aps.org/articles/v9/17](http://physics.aps.org/articles/v9/17) ~~~ mutagen I also enjoyed the article on the LIGO site at [http://www.ligo.org/science/Publication- GW150914/index.php](http://www.ligo.org/science/Publication- GW150914/index.php) Solid coverage without the fluff. ------ rubidium LIGO's mirror: [https://dcc.ligo.org/public/0122/P150914/014/LIGO-P150914%3A...](https://dcc.ligo.org/public/0122/P150914/014/LIGO-P150914%3ADetection_of_GW150914.pdf) ------ rubidium It's a wonderful data and a well-written paper. Really just remarkable. They have a few minor events that seem less likely to lead to anything, but to capture a big one like this at the start of 16 days of collection is a gift. ------ java-man Thank you for posting a direct link to the paper! ------ dskhatri B.P. Abbott must be getting a lot of inquiries :) Edit: Abbott is, when alphabetically arranged, the first name of a long list of authors. ------ AliCollins Is this paper mirrored anywhere else yet? The Phys. Rev. Letters site appears to be a bit overloaded! ~~~ mhandley Here's the abstract: On September 14, 2015 at 09:50:45 UTC the two detectors of the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory simultaneously observed a transient gravitational-wave signal. The signal sweeps upwards in frequency from 35 to 250 Hz with a peak gravitational-wave strain of 1.0×10−21. It matches the waveform predicted by general relativity for the inspiral and merger of a pair of black holes and the ringdown of the resulting single black hole. The signal was observed with a matched-filter signal-to-noise ratio of 24 and a false alarm rate estimated to be less than 1 event per 203 000 years, equivalent to a significance greater than 5.1σ. The source lies at a luminosity distance of 410+160−180 Mpc corresponding to a redshift z=0.09+0.03−0.04. In the source frame, the initial black hole masses are 36+5−4M⊙ and 29+4−4M⊙, and the final black hole mass is 62+4−4M⊙, with 3.0+0.5−0.5M⊙c2 radiated in gravitational waves. All uncertainties define 90% credible intervals. These observations demonstrate the existence of binary stellar-mass black hole systems. This is the first direct detection of gravitational waves and the first observation of a binary black hole merger. ~~~ qubex I dabbled with GR many years ago, so I'd have been surprised if this hadn't turned up sooner or later... but My God, look at that... three earth masses- worth of radiated gravitational energy, I can hardly fathom that. ~~~ selimthegrim I think that's three solar masses. ~~~ qubex My bad, you're right — my astonishment has risen by orders of magnitude. ~~~ selimthegrim Intermediate mass black holes are 100 to 1 million solar masses. ------ cozzyd wow, I hope some of my APS member dues go to improving the servers!
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Ask HN: Will you consider using this Whatsapp tool? - bthn Hello, I started to make a tool for managing and automating mine and my clients&#x27; whatsapp accounts 2-3 months ago and day by day I improved this tool according to my needs.<p>Right now, it&#x27;s so easy to use. You will register from project website and it will give you a token and with that token you can send&#x2F;listen messages and also you can still use your whatsapp account at your phone.<p>With using this project, I managed to create a whatsapp poll &amp; whatsapp wall(streamed incoming media messages to a TV) &amp;multi agent whatsapp support desk easily and every developer will be able to create tools (or bots) with this project.<p>I also consider integrating this project with services like IFTT&amp;Zapier for extend my audience to power-users not only developers.<p>Here is a quick demo; https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=PIfAUozWNPU<p>Question is; I want to sell this to developers like 20$&#x2F;mo do you think it&#x27;s nice product?<p>Disclaimer: Please do not give legal advice. ====== brudgers I watched the video. I still don't understand what it is clearly. I don't understand "why I should care" by which I mean how is using the potential product so much better than the alternatives that it offsets the risk of a dependency on Whatsapp's platform (and based on not wanting legal advice I suspect that there is risk involved in taking this kind of dependency on Whatsapp's platform). Curious as to alternatives and their shortcomings. ~~~ bthn you are scanning a qr code from project's website or terminal, and boom you are able to create chat bots with your Whatsapp account. I'm not using any open sourced and problematic libraries(which are replacing whatsapp client) like whatsapi&yowsup, I developed more secure, robost and undetectable method and want to create a product. also what are the solutions did you mentioned?
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Is Lisp a Blub Language? - ehsanul http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Lisp/comp.lang.lisp/2007-07/msg00060.html ====== Zak I find in certain cases that I'm looking across the power spectrum from the Lisp point of view. I recently ported some code from Haskell to Clojure and occasionally found myself missing Haskell's amazingly expressive type system. Trying to give Lisp such a type system would make a lot of things that are currently easy in Lisp hard or impossible. There are certain kinds of mutually exclusive features that make certain kinds of problems easier or harder. Examples that come to mind are mutability vs immutability and static typing vs dynamic. Most of the things I sometimes find lacking in the Lisps I'm familiar with are of this sort. ~~~ silentbicycle > There are certain kinds of mutually exclusive features that make certain > kinds of problems easier or harder. Right. The fundamental problem with the whole "blub" argument is that there isn't one linear continuum of language power. There are problems for which Erlang's supervision hierarchy and distribution primitives or Prolog's backtracking are a killer feature. This doesn't mean they're "More Powerful than Lisp", just better suited to certain kinds of problems because they committed to some very specific trade-offs. But, these same trade-offs have far-reaching implications for the language semantics, so you can't just use macros to graft them on after the fact. You can embed a mini-Prolog in Lisp, sure, but adding fully native logic variables (as in Prolog or Oz) would be far from trivial. ------ jjs Blubness of a language comes from its practitioners not knowing about useful features from a higher-level language (or not grasping the utility of such a feature). If your favorite Lisp lacks a certain feature you want, it's easy to add, making Lisp the anti-Blub. (And if your favorite Lisp makes it hard to add it, you've picked the wrong favorite!) ~~~ olavk Some features are not easy to add. For example, one important feature of Python is that the language is designed with consistency and readability in mind, and combined with the "preferably one obvious way to do it"-ideal means that code written by other people is easier to read and understand. This makes code and knowledge sharing easier, and the network effect creates a blooming ecosystem for libraries. How do you easily add that feature to your favorite Lisp? ~~~ floater Your example is a feature of the Python philosophy (or community) not the Python language. ~~~ olavk The philosophy is hardcoded in the design of the language. For example, the BDFL has explicitly stated he doesn't want macros because it will hurt the readability (1), and he rejected support for multi-line anonymous functions because he didn't find a syntax which he thought was clear and readable enough. Clearly this is a very different philosophy than the one behind Lisp. (1) The quote from Guido: _Programmable syntax is not in Python's future -- or at least it's not for Python 3000. The problem IMO is that everybody will abuse it to define their own language. And the problem with that is that it will fracture the Python community because nobody can read each other's code any more._ ([http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2006-April/0002...](http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2006-April/000286.html)) ~~~ swannodette _Programmable syntax is not in Python's future -- or at least it's not for Python 3000. The problem IMO is that everybody will abuse it to define their own language. And the problem with that is that it will fracture the Python community because nobody can read each other's code any more_ I like Python and use it everyday, and I this is simply FUD. Sadly it's the kind of argument I hear coming too often from people in the Python community unfamiliar with Lisp when attempting to critique powerful Lisps. ~~~ demallien Is it really FUD though? Having gone through a few bruising experiences with different libraries having incompatible object systems built in Javascript, I have come to appreciate the advantages of only having one way to implement certain types of structures. It doesn't need to be hard-coded into the language though - a decent Standard Library showing how things _should_ be done, and a culture maintained by the community would be enough. That would allow everyone the freedom to do what they want if they say a definate advantage in breaking with convention, whilst making it easy for people to generate libraries that are interoperable... ~~~ lispm I think macros do have certain disadvantages (they make debugging seem to look harder, more syntax, etc, ...). But I find things like extensive use of MOP also make maintenance of programming more challenging. Common Lisp has never tried to take away 'power' from users. Scheme had a different philosophy: reduce everything to the most basic and pleasing constructs. But that approach has its own disadvantages - if one arrives at the bottom of programming language constructs, working 'upwards' is a problem. Take for example the argument lists: Common Lisp has things like keywords, optional and rest arguments. Plain Scheme only has rest arguments. Adding other argument interpretation is possible, but is only really use if the language would support it and would make use of it. ------ programnature Pattern matching is the missing feature. I keep thinking about switching to Clojure from Mathematica, but then I think "How can anyone get anything done in Clojure? It doesn't even have pattern matching." Its not something that can get patched in a library, because the way symbols and evaluation need to work is different (and simpler) than in a Lisp. There is no distinction between macro-s and nonmacros - everything is just a tree transformation. The main benefit of first-class pattern matching is that your function definitions get a lot more succinct and expressive, since you can encode quite a lot of information in the structure of the arguments, and elegantly unfold the definition from the short and common case to a parameterized sequence of generalizations. ~~~ noelwelsh What exactly do you mean by pattern matching? I understand it in the ML sense. The Lisp language I use, PLT Scheme, has extensible pattern matching: <http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference/match.html> The implementation isn't simple but the techniques are published (see "Pattern matching for Scheme" [http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.53.2...](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.53.2004)) so any Lisp language could implement this. Clojure has less powerful pattern matching, but it does the most common stuff. The linked article is really about Common Lisp, where the issue is a standard that hasn't been updated in a long time. This doesn't stop individual implementations from making their own advances but in my limited knowledge of the CL implementations this doesn't seem to be occurring. ~~~ programnature Good question. Here is what I mean: 1\. Pattern matching as the basis for function definition, to determine which code executes and expedite argument destructuring. 2\. Patterns themselves should have first-class representation (preferably symbolic), so you can generate them in one place and use them in another. 3\. Implicit in this is that the structure of the language is systematic enough to make this worthwhile, meaning something s-expression based, or perhaps something like Scala that achieves similar ends in a much different way. ~~~ hga How close does Qi (<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_%28programming_language%29>) come to what you desire? ------ mixmax Aren't all languages blub languages depending on the usecase? If you write AI programs c++ is a blub language. How can you get _anything_ done without macros? If you program drivers PHP is a blub language. How can you get _anything_ done without direct access to the hardware? If you're doing webapps lisp is a blub language. How can you get _anything_ done with a syntax that's so different from HTML and so difficult to read? The whole premise of a blub language depends entirely on what you're trying to accomplish - the right tool for the right job. _Disclaimer - I'm not much of a programmer, so maybe my examples don't hold up, but you get the idea :-)_ ~~~ zephjc Disclaimer noted, but as to your lisp/HTML example, HTML and lisps actually have a lot in common - if you strip away the end tags and the angle brackets, you get something very lispy looking <div> <span>Hello</span> </div> has the same (prefix) order of operators and operands as (div (span "Hello")) Off the top of my head, the "hiccup" package for Clojure has an 'html' function (macro?) that translates just that sort of stuff directly into html ~~~ mixmax Interesting. Do you by any chance have links to some newbie resources? Maybe it's worth reading up on some sort of lisp. Clojure maybe? ~~~ Zak Generating HTML from Lisp is very easy and natural. Of course, there are situations where it might be better to use an HTML template, and there are libraries for that too. Here are a few more examples of HTML generation in Lisp: A tutorial about writing an HTML-generating DSL in Common Lisp: [http://gigamonkeys.com/book/practical-an-html-generation- lib...](http://gigamonkeys.com/book/practical-an-html-generation-library-the- interpreter.html) The Common Lisp HTML generation library most people actually use[0]: <http://weitz.de/cl-who/> HTML generation in PLT Scheme's Continue framework: [http://docs.plt- scheme.org/continue/index.html#(part._.Rende...](http://docs.plt- scheme.org/continue/index.html#\(part._.Rendering_.H.T.M.L\)) Arc's built-in HTML generation (powers this site): <http://files.arcfn.com/doc/html.html> [0] I'm not actually certain about that, but I think it's the most popular. ------ defdac So how many here can take any problem and use any language to solve it language-optimally with all known best practices with the least amount of code? How do you figure out that one language is better than another for a given context where hundreds of people with 10 years of experience with language X would solve a problem faster and more elegant with language Y and zero experience? Are the people finding certain languages unreadable and ugly really the people that should decide what language to use for a problem at hand? Or the experienced craftsmen with expertise in their old, ugly and "unredable" language? Personally I find it rather funny and ironic that noobs are the ones driving the language of choice because they have learned how good their new and powerful language is - and because they are having trouble reading anything else. In this way the noobs get an edge over Old-timers with years of experience that actually know how to write beautiful code in their old ugly language. The noobs doesn't realize this until their favourite language is considered old and obsolete by even newer noobs, and they start to call themselves Old- timers.. I think most people will have a native language where they express themselves better and more elegant than any other language. They will probably solve any problem faster with their native language compared to the optimally correct besserwisser language. I bet their solution would be more readble and elegant too, compared to be using a language they don't have any experience with. ------ cabalamat No. I'll explain why: all languages are in some sense equally expressive, because they are Turing-complete. But some languages don't have particular abstractions, for example classes; so in that sense they are not expressive, because you can't express those abstractions. But Lisp has macros. This means that any abstraction it doesn't yet support, you can add. ~~~ silentbicycle No, because you can't add language invariants (guarantees that thing X will never happen), and without invariants such as pervasive immutability, certain features are impossible to add. While it's possible to add features to Lisp that are at odds with its fundamental model of evaluation, it's usually done by adding an interpreter (or, occasionally, compiler) for a nested sublanguage. There are several interpreters in SICP and EoPL, several Lisp books have a mini Prolog, etc. This is handy (and Lisps do make it relatively easy), but you can't graft something like Erlang's entire semantics onto Lisp with just macros. ~~~ cabalamat > _No, because you can't add language invariants (guarantees that thing X will > never happen)_ That's true. Macros aren't a perfect solution. > _without invariants such as pervasive immutability, certain features are > impossible to add._ As are certain optimisations. > _While it's possible to add features to Lisp that are at odds with its > fundamental model of evaluation, it's usually done by adding an interpreter > (or, occasionally, compiler) for a nested sublanguage._ Indeed, which is in a certain sense cheating. If one is designing a language, and one hopes that one's language will become popular, then it's likely (in fact inevitable) that the language will be used for tasks that the designer hasn't anticipated. So how can a designer cater to this? Macros are one way, and IMO a powerful one. Another is to make the language so that it is easy to mix-and-match it with other languages, so that it can call code in other languages, be called by other languages, use common data structures and serialisation formats, etc. Implementing in the JVM goes some way to meeting this goal. ------ Estragon Were there any interesting suggestions in the reply to the op? ------ programnature (@lispm Looks like our symbolic language flame war has exceeded yc metrics) Yes, I understand what ' does. You are manually controlling evaluation. The same way, once upon a time, people manually controlled garbage collection. Having a+a explode by default means that the whole time you have to be juggling what is intended to be used symbolically or not. This seems to not be a 100% perfect realization of the code == data paradigm. I'm glad you now agree that structure is a good way to encode meaning. Now, what is a more idiomatic way to manipulate that information? Walking the tree manually, or expressing those patterns of structure directly? Unfortunately, in Lisp, you need to "evaluation manage" those structures. And its not just quote, its the whole macro language with its own idiosyncrasies. Its just a lot easier to have a single elegant system with the right defaults. I'm the kind of person who implements models of computation as a recreational activity. I've probably wished for more granular evaluation control 1% of the time, but having civilized pattern matching (and representation) has vastly increased productivity and code density. ~~~ lispm I haven't said anything about encoding of meaning, you are dreaming. You are the kind of person of Xah Lee...
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Facebook creates preview photos that are just 200 Bytes for fast mobile loading - slyall https://code.facebook.com/posts/991252547593574/the-technology-behind-preview-photos/ ====== mtmail duplicate of [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10020840](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10020840) ~~~ slyall Weird. the URLs seems to be exactly the same. Wonder why the dup detector didn't complain ------ applecore GraphQL doesn't transfer raw bytes, so they would save the 33% overhead if they weren't using Base64 binary-to-text encoding. ~~~ laurencerowe Gzip content encoding recovers most of the overhead. ~~~ imrehg Except they shouldn't really use Gzip if they are also using HTTPS.... See [http://stackoverflow.com/a/4063496/171237](http://stackoverflow.com/a/4063496/171237) or look up BREACH and CRIME. ~~~ duskwuff BREACH/CRIME aren't a huge concern here. Unlike in a web browser, an attacker can't cause a user's browser to fire off crafted requests (because they're only occurring in the Facebook app, which doesn't let third-party scripts run), and they can't easily observe the size of requests and responses (because they're all happening over a cellular network, which is difficult to sniff). ~~~ imrehg Running inside the app is probably the strongest argument here, though I think that's also kinda assuming that people cannot subvert the app in unexpected ways. The size of requests can still be observed e.g. being on Wifi - people don't just use their Smartphone from the cellular network. My thinking is that while in this case it's "probably safe" to use Gzip + HTTPS, but that's not a good practice to build secure systems. If e.g. here these requests are exempted and run to Gzip, the reasons and circumstances for doing it here will be forgotten, and can end up with other stuff exempted later which shouldn't. Just from experience how things work in large orgs. ------ caseyf7 Do they do this on the web too or just the native app? ~~~ nitrogen I suppose it _could_ be done on the web by sending the fixed JPEG header in a JS file that would be cached, then crafting _data:_ URLs on the fly.
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Browser wars go back to future over video formats - cwan http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/01/guest-post-browser-wars-go-back-to.html ====== iwwr Is Google really that concerned with saving a measly $6M per year? It looks like they would pay it back anyway ( <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1361442> \-- less efficient codecs, greater server loads ).
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Micro-targeted digital porn is changing human sexuality - jseliger https://aeon.co/essays/micro-targeted-digital-porn-is-changing-human-sexuality ====== Tenoke I am not convinced their interpretation of how market forces work is definitely right, but this rings true: >The pursuit of the most rabidly loyal audience has already driven political websites and talk radio to polarising extremes, with vast societal implications. Fearing similar outcomes in the world of pornography and sexuality is not entirely outlandish. ~~~ Roritharr This is something which I often contemplate but rarely but into words for fear of being misunderstood. Is it people which were without the Internet unable to develop their character fully, or is it the Internet that changes the people? Were Otherkin a normal phenomenon, or is it something that exposure to the Internet does to some people? Same with all kinds of fetishes, especially Haskell. ~~~ ggggtez Of course otherkin already existed. They just would have not had community that connected them. People have felt connected to spirit animals and all sorts of things. Dragons may not exist but they are part of the Chinese zodiac, and I'm sure plenty of people considered the idea of being possessed by ghosts or demons real. Perhaps there just was to much societal pressure to prevent people from displaying casual interest before the internet. ~~~ adrusi _People have felt connected to spirit animals and all sorts of things._ If that's how you define otherkin then it's pretty obvious it's been around forever, but "otherkin" also refers to the tribe that has formed around that idea online. It refers to the interpretation of what that animal connection means, and to the dogma around it. Otherkin frame their condition in much the same way as transgender people do, and that's a very contemporary way of understanding psychology, and also a way that many people a disturbed by. The question is: would otherkin have arrived at that same interpretation, and the same dogma, without the interent. I think probably not, because it would take so long for those ideas to spread that they would be outdated long before they achieved universality. ~~~ posterboy > Otherkin frame their condition in much the same way as transgender people > do, and that's a very contemporary way of understanding psychology So, was transgenderkin a thing 50 years ago? I guess, but at least they knew it was a joke, most of the time, when they weren't send to therapy. > The question is: would otherkin have arrived at that same interpretation, > and the same dogma, without the interent That's like asking if multiplayer games would have arrived at the same popularity without the internet ------ mmierz I really don't buy the author's contention that "normal" people are likely to become diaper fetishists just because a diaper porn clip popped up on a website. More plausible situation: people who were kinky-but-didn't-know-it or kinky- but-too-ashamed-to-tell-anyone are becoming plain kinky thanks to exposure to their kinks on the internet. ~~~ nialo I notice my preferences tending slowly towards more 'extreme' versions of a particular set of kinks over time. I suspect, but obviously cannot prove, that this would happen even more slowly if the porn for those tightly targeted more extreme versions wasn't easily available online. I don't think this is a problem exactly, and I'd guess it's a small effect, but I think there certainly is _some_ effect. ------ guard-of-terra In my opinion, the overall quality of offering on tube sites is poor. There are hidden gems, there's a limited number of them and they aren't promoted or discovered in any way. Ratings system is useless that way. Instead we're seeing this fetish obsession, which fills tops with videos which cater only to a subset and are still boring. What most videos lack is passion and talent. Fetishes are an attempt to substitute passion and talent. > No adult online content provider is going to go belly-up showing young women > having sex Actually, no. This stuff never gets old if done right. Anything else does. ~~~ adrusi I think that seeing fetish content in porn easily translates to sexual stimulation, in a way that passion and nuance just don't. What turns you on while you watch sex might be very different from what turns you on while you participate in it. ------ ggggtez Tldr: ew porn is icky. Is Anal Prolapse the new missionary?
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Coder Frozen in 2009 Awakens to Find Front End Development Not Awful - eropple https://www.schneems.com/2017/08/09/coder-frozen-in-2009-awakens-to-find-frontend-development-not-awful/ ====== eropple I posted this because this was basically me about six months ago. Modern JavaScript is almost as nice, for me, as peak Ruby is, and the smart, functionally-oriented decisions in React/Preact beat all hollow everything that used to be the case (which was when TripAdvisor was using MooTools...in 2012...).
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Solar energy in Israel: It's a knockout - mblakele http://www.economist.com/sciencetechnology/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14082027 ====== dkasper Just goes to show, it's only a matter of time before enough breakthroughs occur that solar power overtakes fossil fuels. ~~~ pmorici How much of this is scientific breakthroughs and how much is the climate? Israel is hot and sunny for most of the year, the same is not true of the upper Midwest US for example. ~~~ quizbiz Israel for the most part (then again the Negav Desert is 1/3 of Israel) is not exceptionally hot and sunny. But Israel does have an exceptional motivation to be energy independent. It is a county in the middle east with no oil surrounded by political enemies with oil. When there is a will and that will is backed by cost, there is a way. ~~~ ido None of Israel's direct neighbors is even close to being a significant oil producer - those are mostly in the Arabian peninsula. ~~~ quizbiz I used 'neighbors' very loosely, speaking more about Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc. But you are right. Oil Produced: (Wolfram Alpha) Israel | 5 966 bbl/day (barrels per day) Syria | 381 600 bbl/day (barrels per day) Egypt | 664 000 bbl/day (barrels per day) Saudi Arabia | 9 200 000 bbl/day (barrels per day) Israel for the political reasons can not afford for its economy to rely on exported oil from Arab states. I'm not even sure if Iran, Saudi Arabia, or the UAE would be willing to export oil to Israel. It's expensive to import it from farther so Israel spends 73.43B/year on oil imports[1]. The opportunity cost of not developing alternatives has been high so solar panels are already a part of the infrastructure (ie: to heat the water in almost every single home). [1] <http://www16.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=oil+import+israel>
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MS-Linux? Lindows? Could Microsoft Release a Desktop Linux? - CrankyBear https://www.zdnet.com/article/ms-linux-lindows-could-microsoft-release-a-desktop-linux/ ====== masonic Call it "Black Hat Linux"
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Facebook Approves Dogecoin Tipping App - kordless http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/facebook-approves-dogecoin-tipping-app/2014/06/06?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed ====== kordless To the moon.
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Verizon Bets on Connected Car - jayzee http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303552104577440550104642214.html ====== moistgorilla Good thinking by Verizon. In the long term this will play out to be a huge advantage with self-driving cars.
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The Unbelievable History of the Express JavaScript Framework - tdurden http://thefullstack.xyz/history-express-javascript-framework/ ====== toyg There's something missing here, timelines don't align... So TJH sells express in 2014; Doug ploughs on for two years, with zero contributions from StrongLoop (?). Then IBM takes over and assigns two devs to actually do some work, and Doug quits...? Stating a problem of trust. So what happened? Did SL promise something that is not going to happen now that IBM is in charge? Did SL promise him a job or something? Sure, Doug should be thanked for his tireless job; but the post is simply lacking or omitting important details. ~~~ aeb I think what happened was that he (Doug) was trying to push SL into helping out more and to get some issues fixed, Doug felt like he was getting somewhere, but then SL was sold to IBM all conversations had to be started again. There is a github issue titled 'Is Express dying?' [1] that contains all of the events, issues and comments from Doug, TJ, SL and IBM. [1] - [https://github.com/expressjs/express/issues/2844](https://github.com/expressjs/express/issues/2844) ------ dstroot Doug is a great guy and super helpful. He has personally responded to many issues on Express as well as the ecosystem of Express middleware. He is truly a treasure. Doug - if you ever read this I personally really appreciate you. ------ doublerebel Express is alive and well, I just developed two new middlewares for it in the last week. Koa has been straddling 1.x to 2.x rewrite for quite a while. In the meantime Express chugs along powering 1000s of websites. The performance difference is negligible and Express still beats Hapi by a long shot. Long live expressjs. ------ percept The characterizations of the framework author as "evil" and "dickish" seem a bit extreme, and unfair. Otherwise, it's nice to see credit given where it's due. ~~~ spriggan3 If you're talking about TJ I don't think anyone said he was "evil" or "dickish". The selling of a repo on Github is questionable however it is no more questionable than Ryan selling NodeJS to Joyent. But frankly nobody really believes IBM gives a damn about Express, so people should move on and use something else, because it ain't gona be maintained seriously . For them Express is just PR for their platform Blue mix as they try to attract businesses based on NodeJS. ~~~ jaredandrews > I don't think anyone said he was "evil" or "dickish" Dude, the article literally calls him both of those things and links to another article that is entirely about what a dick the author thinks he is.[0] [0] [http://hueniverse.com/2014/07/30/open-source- dickishness/](http://hueniverse.com/2014/07/30/open-source-dickishness/) ------ 0xCMP I tweeted. He deserves the recognition however we can give it.
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Sexual Partners “Gender Gap” Debunked by Scientific Research - nikse https://www.inverse.com/article/47430-number-of-sexual-partners-study ====== notadoc The most obvious reason for any discrepancy is that people lie.
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Web services should be both federated and extensible - dwynings http://cdixon.org/2010/09/04/web-services-should-be-both-federated-and-extensible/ ====== dva There is so much data already trapped in Twitter & Facebook services. It is up to those platforms to provide the tools to free it.
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Ask HN: Javascript type inference and Asm.js - logn Asm.js works best for compiling statically typed languages into Javascript, adding type information into the JS so that compilers can optimize around this. Some people are worried this will lead to stagnation in JS optimization for when it's written by humans (although I've seen V8 developers de-prioritize Asm.js requests in favor of other optimizations serving JS programmers).<p>Can't we add type inference to JS to let it be Asm.js compiled? E.g., http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/dimvar/jstypes.html (however, this doesn't distinguish between float/double/int/long, but that doesn't seem impossible)<p>I don't see in the Asm.js spec that they add type info for classes/objects, but this doesn't seem too hard to infer either. You'd take an inventory of what keys and types are in objects and make a hierarchy of them for 'inheritance' of objects.<p>Am I missing something? ====== llogiq Are you proposing a JS to JS filter that a) checks if functions/modules are eligible for asm-ifying (that is, it only uses asm.js functionality, no metaprogramming, only using asm.js "heap", do I oversee something?) b) adds a "use asm" to the function/module c) adds the correct type information d) perhaps compiles some JS functionality into asm.js (I'm thinking of the heap, which could be precompiled under certain constraints, but it's probably better to make the compiler not too smart) ~~~ logn Generally, yes. Granted, I don't know the specific details of this. I'm just a JS programmer, not familiar with Asm.js (other than browsing their homepage and slides and articles). But it seems like the people working in these communities have written off or not focused on JS ever being compiled to Asm.js JS and achieving near-native efficiency. And that instead, the focus is on more traditional languages with static typing compiling to Asm.js JS. And I suspect there's a reason for this, that it's hard or impossible to compile regular JS to use asm to achieve near-native efficiency. But I'd like to know specifically why, because in my naive view, it's possible (and even if really, really hard... totally worth it since you can then speed up all the JS that's ever been written to date and all future JS we write... and even if that's not possible that we can focus on avoiding certain features of JS to make compilation to Asm.js JS possible, i.e., a saner way to write Asm.js JS in JS). ------ argonaut I am not by any means an expert in compilers/language design. But apparently according to this talk [1] dynamic typing is not the reason JS and other dynamic languages are slow, given the optimizations that effectively "solve" that problem. I would guess that both 1) metaprogramming, and 2) lack of low-level memory management contribute more to the fact that JS is slower than dynamic typing. [1][https://speakerdeck.com/alex/why-python-ruby-and- javascript-...](https://speakerdeck.com/alex/why-python-ruby-and-javascript- are-slow)
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NYT Cascade visualization - helwr http://WWW.nytlabs.com/projects/cascade.html ====== mattdeboard This could be a Very Big Deal in the Marketing/PR 'industry' where it is extremely difficult to quantify performance of PR departments and individuals. I can easily envision a "Cascade score" of a particular press release or press conference being a hard metric of influence & success. If I was running a PR department or agency, I'd want this application as soon as possible, at any practical price. ~~~ janesvilleseo Yes this tool could be very helpful to many. I could see it working very nicely with Klout. And taking it a step further sales departments could use this info to see who their 'target' is influenced, which could be very helpful as well. ------ donohoe They have this installed on the 28th floor by the elevator bank over 4 or so large screens. Its pretty damn awesome. You can access it via your iPhone on the network and control it. I wish I'd had a chance to play with it more. ------ blatherard Jer Thorp is the guy who built the visualization tool. He also designed a tool to help layout the names on the 9/11 memorial. He's got other interesting stuff at his blog, <http://blog.blprnt.com/> ~~~ donohoe He didn't do it alone, but he was a big part of it. ------ helwr via <http://processing.org/exhibition/>
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Ask HN: Do You Still Read Comics (And Do They Inspire You)? - CallMeV How many of you regulars here derive pleasure and draw inspiration from reading comic books?<p>Do you eagerly await the latest X-Men to be put on the shelf of your regular newsstand on your way to work, or have it on order at your newsagent? Do you subscribe to your favourite titles and have them delivered to your home?<p>Or have you set aside the monthly issues, concentrating on collected stories and omnibuses, hanging around in comic shops on your off days haggling over prices and conditions of individual books with fellow comic traders?<p>Do you follow any particular title, such as Batman, The X-Men, Thor, The Avengers - or are you a Brit and a Squaxx Dek Thargo, a hardcore 2000AD addict until your dying day?<p>One of the oldest regular comic readers I ever heard of was 83 when he died. Japanese businessmen read their manga religiously on the commute to work. So nobody is really too old to read comics.<p>Taken in that light, how about you? ====== autalpha I still read Japanese graphic novels or Mangas. I hope that counts. Growing up in Vietnam, my parents generally forbid us kids from reading comics because they're not... smart materials. I don't know, but I tend to disagree with that. I find graphic novels/comics fascinating because it seems like the writers can get their messages across with just an image an a short bubble/line of text. On that front, I think web creator should learn a thing or two from comics writer :) I love the older cartoons. I think waking up Saturday mornings or rush home from school to watch cartoons was so good back then. That's why I archive a lot of my favorite cartoon series (Arthur, Life with Louie, Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids, etc.) for my future children :) My hope and inspiration to make the web a more positive experience in my daily work definitely has something to do with the simplest stories which come from some cartoons I saw as a kid. ~~~ autalpha Just saw Thor last night. That was a very entertaining movie!
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Cisco ASA Software IKEv1 and IKEv2 Buffer Overflow Vulnerability - amatus https://tools.cisco.com/security/center/content/CiscoSecurityAdvisory/cisco-sa-20160210-asa-ike ====== amatus Here's Exodus's write-up on the vulnerability and exploit: [https://blog.exodusintel.com/2016/01/26/firewall- hacking/](https://blog.exodusintel.com/2016/01/26/firewall-hacking/)
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Michael Arrington falls for Y Combinator - drm237 http://blog.bos.genotrope.com/2008/03/16/michael-arrington-falls-for-y-combinator/ ====== alex_c Not much to say about the article itself (yeah, TechCrunch has been covering YCombinator a lot lately), but that blog has a seriously annoying layout.
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Launching Docs.github.com - todsacerdoti https://github.blog/2020-07-01-launching-docs-github-com/ ====== li8n Remarkable post of ms. Jean Leaver on Launching docs.github.com [https://github.blog/2020-07-01-launching-docs-github- com/](https://github.blog/2020-07-01-launching-docs-github-com/) Femene genius soured into IT marks the end of open source, as we know it. The flagship of big data pillars behind marvelous github platform had announced deprecation of the idea that it was built upon. Try fetching long and painful history of github's docs evolvement through the last decades. pff, — it's gone. ------ the_arun I was hoping to see competitor for Readme.io where documentation is exposed as a platform to users of github. ~~~ fowl2 yeah or even an integration of something like docs.msft tooling ------ rany_ I don't know why I expected this to be a Google Docs competitor.
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The latest “nightmare inducing” Boston Dynamics robots - swamp40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5qpXO3isM ====== swamp40 Skip to the 3:45 mark.
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SimTK: open-access biomedical research models and tools - fitzwatermellow https://simtk.org/xml/index.xml ====== brudgers SimTK is part of Simbios: [http://simbios.stanford.edu/](http://simbios.stanford.edu/)
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Keeping the Art of Silent Film Music Alive - tintinnabula https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/keeping-art-silent-film-music-alive-organ-cinema-comedy ====== mrob Not only did theater organists improvise music, they also improvised sound effects. See this booklet describing such techniques: [https://archive.org/details/TheatreOrganistsSecrets](https://archive.org/details/TheatreOrganistsSecrets) The right justified text after each heading is the list of organ stops, i.e. the list of timbres played at once. The numbers after each stop name are the pitches. They're specified as the length of an open pipe that plays the lowest note on the keyboard. 8 foot pitch matches a piano, and other pitches are transposed, so by selecting multiple pitches at once you can play chords with a single finger. See: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_stop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_stop) ~~~ jerrre Thanks for the link! Should be fun to spend an evening trying to emulate these sounds! ------ Tharkun Years ago, I got to watch a Japanese movie narrator (benshi) in action. They're a dying breed who narrate silent movies in real time, on stage, next to the big screen. It's a mixture of narrating, voice acting and improvisation. The same movie could be entirely different with another benshi. This performance was accompanied by live piano music, played by a pianist who hadn't seen the movie, who didn't speak Japanese, and who didn't have a score. It was over an hour of improvisation, based on what he could see of the movie and his interpretation of narrator's intonation. It was incredible. It was fun, and it was unique. Out of all the movies I've seen, this performance stands out. It would be a shame to lose out on this. ~~~ mrob Live narration lives on in some African countries as the "video joker". The narrator translates as well as adding their own jokes and commentary. You can hear an example in the only surviving copy of the famous Ugandan film "Who Killed Captain Alex?"[0] I thought it would be annoying at first, but VJ Emmie does a great job and really adds to the entertainment. [0] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE) ------ biztos In Budapest there's a local bar that does silent movies with live music weekly. Pretty cool, and it only takes over half the bar. Kisüzem on Sundays last I checked. Check out Club Foot Orchestra[0] as well. It's a great way to watch films! [0]: [http://www.clubfootorchestra.com](http://www.clubfootorchestra.com) ~~~ arximboldi Here in Berlin there is this theater, where they do silent movies with live music/effects regularly: [http://www.babylonberlin.de/](http://www.babylonberlin.de/) Very much recommended! ------ tribby the valerie project[0] was a psychedelic folk band that toured the US playing screenings of "valerie and her week of wonders," a 1970 czech surrealist horror movie (highly recommended!). they were pretty awesome, especially for a one-off super obscure thing like that. related but different: guitarist loren connors did a soundtrack for "the passion of joan of arc" (1928)[1] that I find incredibly moving. for those not familiar with connors' work, it comes from a kind of catholic guilt that makes his score and this particular film an artfully brutal pairing. 0\. [http://www.dragcity.com/products/the-valerie- project](http://www.dragcity.com/products/the-valerie-project) 1\. [https://vimeo.com/53953169](https://vimeo.com/53953169) (excerpt) ~~~ cpete Awesome recommendations, thanks! Was able to find the Valerie Project soundtrack album on YouTube in its entirety. The first track or two is reminiscent of The Mars Volta without the frenzy. Enjoying the heck out of all the tracks though. ~~~ tribby If you like the valerie project's music, check out espers, helena espvall + masaki batoh, meg baird, fairport convention, greg weeks, ilyas ahmed, lau nau, gavin bryars, orion rigel dommisse, heron oblivion (definitely chaotic though) and trees (there have been a few bands with this name -- UK 1970s). ------ cpete In 2008 or so The Hot Club of San Franscisco[0] (gypsy jazz/hot jazz a la Django Reinhardt) played a live accompaniment to some work by the silent film actor/comedian Charley Bowers[1]. It was definitely one of the better performances I've ever seen/heard. What a perfect juxtaposition, not even taking into account the obvious caliber of the musicianship. Ever since I've been on the lookout for similar "soundtrack" concerts, improvised or composed. A live rendition of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" orchestrated by a Denver jazz guitarist is another favorite. [0]HCoSF Sample Song: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlPBYVOXXg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlPBYVOXXg) [1][http://brightlightsfilm.com/forgotten-charleys-i-charley- bow...](http://brightlightsfilm.com/forgotten-charleys-i-charley-bowers- silent-comedys-wizard-of-the-bizarre/) ------ nickhalfasleep A music professor at CU Boulder accompanies silent films at the Chautauqua event hall every summer. It's a wonder to behold the duration, speed, and exceptional timing to bring together a multiple reel silent film. [https://www.denverpost.com/2012/07/06/denver-pianist-hank- tr...](https://www.denverpost.com/2012/07/06/denver-pianist-hank-troy- provides-music-for-silent-films-at-chatauqua/) [https://www.chautauqua.com/events/film/](https://www.chautauqua.com/events/film/) ------ adaven_xt I was excited to see a number of silent movies on Amazon Prime Video, but gave up in disgust after trying only a couple. None of the music even remotely matched the film, even when Wikipedia says a full orchestral score was originally produced. Instead, each was backed by a piano playing Scott Joplin ragtime songs. Nothing like watching the hero getting struck by an arrow in a sudden betrayal while listening to the Entertainer or Maple Leaf Rag. ------ erebus_rex A little off-topic but if you want to give silent cinema a go try Abel Gance's Napoleon. It is a 5 hour epic and incredible technical achievement. Some of the tricks in its bag (like the 3 screen finale) haven't ever been attempted since (as far as I know). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6504eRh5h6M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6504eRh5h6M) ~~~ verylittlemeat If we're sharing our favorites then I don't think you can go wrong with La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc (1928). The criterion collection version is great and watch it with Richard Einhorn's Voices of Light, especially if it's your first time. It's one of the more high profile silent films but with good reason. If you want to try something different with friends but don't want them to fall asleep I've had good success with this film.
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Announcing Free Tier and Live Migration Tool for MongoDB Atlas - nparsons08 https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/announcing-free-tier-and-live-migration-tool-for-mongodb-atlas ====== arkham Disclaimer: I used to work for MongoDB, but left more than 2 years ago. I'm really happy to see the free tier as an option - I was a big fan, user, and advocate of MMS back when that was a free option for monitoring, and accessibility to Atlas has been lacking a "try before you buy" option (though I did pick up free credit from the MongoDB booth in Re:Invent, it makes it hard to recommend to others). Also great to see an official utility for migrations with MongoMirror too. These things, along with the Jepsen tests now being in CI (and passing in 3.4) seemed so far away when I left MongoDB, really great to see them come to fruition :) ------ kastanza1415 Can you migrate your data from the free sandbox version over to an M4, for example? ~~~ vinum_sabbathi hey - this blog post handles basics to do such a migration: [https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/atlas-on-day-one- importing...](https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/atlas-on-day-one-importing- data)
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How do developers promote open source projects? - eqcho4 https://arxiv.org/abs/1908.04219 ====== ktpsns Interesting topic, but the paper presentation looks weird to me. Most figures don't show curves but a single value with error bars. Never have seen such a way of presenting single data points. I don't see any advantage of presenting these numbers (solely) in text. I wonder at which journal this paper is going to be submitted (I am not a CS guy so this is a honest question, no sarcasm here)
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Show HN: PWA, SSR for a demo modern web app - revskill https://www.resta.us ====== sotaan can you show your code please? seems like you are using Vue 2
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WhatsApp Cofounder Tells Students to Delete Facebook - jmsflknr https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/whatsapp-brian-acton-delete-facebook-stanford-lecture ====== nilskidoo “The capitalistic profit motive, or answering to Wall Street, is what’s driving the expansion of invasion of data privacy and driving the expansion of a lot of negative outcomes that we’re just not happy with,” he said. “I wish there were guardrails there. I wish there was ways to rein it in. I have yet to see that manifest, and that scares me.” \- what Berners-Lee meant to say.
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Orbitz shows costlier hotel options to Mac users - Kenan http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304458604577488822667325882.html ====== suprgeek It is important to read the article carefully: WRONG - Mac users see higher prices for same hotels than Windows users RIGHT - Mac users are sometimes also shown hotels that are costlier than their windows users "...so the online travel agency is starting to show them different, and sometimes costlier, travel options than Windows visitors see." ~~~ starship Regardless, it never ceases to amaze me how controversial pricing discrimination is. Especially since most people have taken Econ 101: pricing discrimination eliminates dead-weight loss, which should be a good thing right? Nope, instant controversy. ~~~ gjm11 > _most people have taken Econ 101_ Er. Um. No, most people have not taken Econ 101. Most graduates have not taken Econ 101. Most graduates in quantitative disciplines have not taken Econ 101. Most people with economics degrees have taken Econ 101. A modest number of other people have. Some more have learned the basic concepts by means other than taking Econ 101. These are probably not the people complaining about price discrimination. In any case, being surprised when people are upset because they think they're getting inferior treatment and saying "oh, but they should think of the gain in overall economic efficiency" seems like a sign of, well, not having taken Psych 101. ~~~ pavel_lishin I took Econ 101 - but the only reason I did so was because it was one of the only two classes available in high school that offered college credit. If it didn't give me three hours of credit, I probably would have ended up with Texas History, or something similar. ------ mratzloff It wouldn't surprise me. I've suspected for years that they do differential pricing, but I got confirmation a few days ago. I just bought tickets to Las Vegas on Friday. I got through the checkout process (choosing a flight and a hotel) and then they said there was a "problem" and kicked me back to the beginning of the process. I went through it again, choosing the exact same flights (with the same number of seats available) and the prices were 20-30% higher. The available seats were identical (I was buying for a same-day flight so there were only a handful remaining and it was easy to see that they were the same). I went ahead and bought since it at was the last minute, but I made a mental note not to ever bother coming back. It's happened so frequently to me on this and other aggregators like Travelocity that it may even be intentional. Perhaps they display competitive prices so they will be chosen by people who are comparison shopping (either manually or through a site like kayak.com). Then once you've asserted your willingness to buy by moving through the flight selection process they randomly restart you with higher prices on the (probably likely) belief that you have already mentally committed to Orbitz. ~~~ derda It is also possible, that they show you a cached price first and one step before the confirmation they check back with the airline if they price really is the same. In your case the airline might have increased the fare, for whatever reason, shortly before you started your booking process. ~~~ mratzloff That's definitely possible. I just have a hard time giving any company involved (airline or aggregator) the benefit of the doubt... ------ aresant Another interesting one is when Capital One showed different rates by browser types by using a demographic study of wealth based on browser via [http://www.conversionvoodoo.com/blog/2010/11/do-different- we...](http://www.conversionvoodoo.com/blog/2010/11/do-different-web-browsers- bring-different-demographics) ~~~ unfasten The Capital One example actually turned out to just be normal split testing, not based on the visitor's browser. HN discussion thread about it: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1861037> ------ unreal37 I also find this fascinating. As someone involved in creating recommendation systems for web sites based on various user behavior signals, I can see adding a "what type of browser do they use" and "what type of OS do they use" intelligence in the future to further segment users. Mac ownership must be a proxy for "household income". Brilliant. ~~~ mitchty Would be easy enough to compare prices on windows/linux in a vm on my mac though. And take note of the companies that do it. Something else to add to comparison services as well, aka does site xyz.com discriminate based on os/browser? ~~~ unreal37 Important note: the prices are not different. Just that more 5-star hotels are shown in the search results to Mac users. If they were charging more for the same hotel, it would be evil not brilliant. :) ~~~ bigiain We were doing this back in early 2001 on this site: [http://web.archive.org/web/20010722191804/http://travelmall....](http://web.archive.org/web/20010722191804/http://travelmall.com/) We tried both adjusting individual prices for Mac users (and didn't see any statistical difference from the price sensitivity for non-mac users, same as we didn't see statistically significant differences between older and newer Windows version users), and skewing the search result price range for Mac users compared to non-Mac users (and we certainly saw statistically significant improvements there in terms of average dollars per room-night). In the long run though, although we proved to ourselves it worked, the Mac userbase back then was so small that the overall bottom line effect wasn't big enough compared to the engineering and marketing effort to keep it working - I think it all vanished in the big 2004 rewrite of the site's back end. ------ abruzzi Inevitably, this will make people like me (Mac user that considers $50 a night overpriced) book through other sites. Does orbitz think I only price through them? Most people I know price at least a half dozen locations before deciding, so as long as everyone doesn't jack prices for Mac users, Mac user's business will naturally migrate to whomever doesn't try to screw us. ~~~ citricsquid If they believe Mac users are happy to pay higher prices they most likely also believe Mac users are less prone to shopping around. ~~~ GoodIntentions I bet they are right too. I think mac users have demonstrated they are for the most part willing to pay more for something they perceive as offering a better experience. You can't make that choice if you're some broke dude surfing from a 400 dollar *nix box, so I think it is given that average mac users are less price sensitive - the more cash you have, the more your time is valued imho. FWIW, posting this from a slackware box with my mac cooling in the next room. So by all means, show me the cheap stuff first :) ------ eridius Are they simply showing pricier offers, or are they showing the exact same offers but with the prices raised? The former is annoying but not inherently evil, but the latter would be terrible. ~~~ dmfdmf In Econ, the latter is called differential pricing and there is nothing evil about it at all. [http://www.pricingforprofit.com/pricing- explained/differenti...](http://www.pricingforprofit.com/pricing- explained/differential-pricing.php) ~~~ InclinedPlane That depends on your moral code, of course. ~~~ bigiain We knew that _downward_ differential pricing worked (in terms of increasing conversions) - a popup saying "Hi, you're a return visitor to our website, we can discount this room rate 10% if you book today) _always_ increased conversions. We sure as hell _experimented_ to see if the decrease in conversions by bumping margins (and hence prices) up was worthwhile in terms of total profit. I'd happily make an argument that if the first is morally "OK" then so is the second… ~~~ rwolf Your phrasing here suggests that you work for orbitz or a similar company. Is that accurate? ~~~ bigiain Same field, but not since 2008. I was doing this in early 2001. ------ vishaldpatel Does this means that Linux users get the best deals? Or maybe it's Windows users with cracked copies of Windows. ~~~ dave1010uk When the Humble Indie Bundles are on sale (where consumers can pay what they want), the stats showed the average Linux user paid more than Mac or Windows users. ~~~ jasonlotito I don't think that necessarily carries over. For the most part, all the Linux users I know contribute more simply because they want to encourage other developers to create games for Linux. It's a point of price, they can point at, and say "Hey, Linux users spent more then Windows or Mac users." ------ benmanns Another curious statistic: according to the sales numbers on <http://www.humblebundle.com/>, Linux users on average pay more ($12.50) for the choose-your-price bundle than Mac ($9.99) or Windows ($7.98) users. ~~~ jlcx I would guess that this is either related to user enthusiasm for more professionally developed games (explaining why Windows users aren't as excited), or a desire to support the creation of cool stuff and be part of a community around it. ~~~ dave1010uk Additionally (ceteris parabus) a Linux user would be richer as they have not spent money on an OS (except the odd RHEL user). However I doubt this makes a statistical difference. ------ kintamanimatt I wonder how Linux users are profiled. ~~~ jbigelow76 Redirected to Airbnb of course. ~~~ kintamanimatt I assume only Ubuntu users are so redirected. Arch --> Ikea. LFS --> a forest. ~~~ zalew Debian --> a commune ------ ajays It's not like someone at Orbitz sat down, rubbed his/her hands with glee and said with an evil laugh, "ha! I will rip those Mac users off!" In all likelihood, someone used the browser type as a feature in their model. It so happens that Mac users are (or were) younger, slightly more financially successful and like to splurge a little (e.g., the Mac itself, when comparable Windows laptops are significantly cheaper). Hence the model learned that it can show more expensive hotels to users with that specific browser type. ------ hnalien Full Article - [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230445860457748...](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304458604577488822667325882.html) ------ ghaff Not that familiar with most of the hotel examples shown but, for Las Vegas at least, both the hotel examples shown are pretty low-end Strip Casinos. (i.e., at least this example isn't about significantly different classes of properties) ------ brackin As a Mac user I hate this but I do think you should (on applications at least) use different models for each platform. Angry Birds monetizes differently on Android and iOS. This isn't a justification for Orbitz' behaviour though. ------ doh "I don't understand the Orbitz debacle. First, they're not charging Mac users more than Windows users for the same hotels / services. All users, regardless of OS, have access to the same set of options at the same prices. This is ad targeting, not price manipulation; they're (essentially) showing Mac users different advertisements -- for higher-priced options. You're free to not click on the ad; if Orbitz chose wrong, they're losing money (by wasting ad space on their page)." Rest here: <https://www.facebook.com/tudorb/posts/10100307597913113> ------ joshmlewis I'm cofounding a startup in the travel space and our cofounder has a lot of domain expertise and according to him it's illegal to show a rate lower on Expedia than say Marriott.com. There are exceptions as always, but for the most part this is true. Now I don't know if this applies to the opposite..I guess you could just add to a price but I still would think that's fishy. Anyway, just a little tid bit of knowledge. Edit: Turns out they prices weren't different, just showing pricier results first. ~~~ bigiain "Illegal" is not _quite_ the right word. When I got out of the online hotel booking game (back in '08) - all of the major chains were starting to include terms like that in their contracts (or had been for a few years), and were leaning on all the wholesalers (Pegasus/Sabre/Gullivers/Octopus) to push and enforce those decisions on small players (like us) who booked through them. Our lawyers said there was a _strong_ chance that these contract provisions wouldn't stand up in court (here in Australia), but it was obvious to everyone that it wasn't worth getting into expensive legal fights with the suppliers of the "product" our business relied on… ------ gurkendoktor Amazon also shows costlier suggestions to customers who have bought costlier products before. Orbitz is doing what they can with their comparatively limited knowledge. The ironic thing about this is that many airfare websites have a German version with curiously higher prices than the US version, and that Apple's computers themselves are more expensive in Europe. (Sadly I'm never sure how much of this can be explained with taxes.) ------ w1ntermute Screenshots for those of us stuck behind the paywall: <http://imgur.com/a/VtNRf> ~~~ bmunro Paste the article title ("On Orbitz, Mac Users Steered to Pricier Hotels") into Google. The Wall Street Journal article should be the first result. Click on it. You should be able to see the whole article. The WSJ appear to give you the full text when the referrer is google. ------ yo-mf One interesting insight that was edited from the final article; Linux users tend to not book hotels, but prefer building campgrounds from scratch. ------ yo-mf You know which Mac users are NOT seeing those higher cost travel options? Apple Store employees... ------ kika The real question is who paid for this article - Parallels or VmWare :-) Kidding. ------ badhairday Paywall. :( ~~~ ctrl_freak Protip: many paywalls, including this one can be circumvented by using Google's URL redirection service: [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB...](http://www.google.com/url?q=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304458604577488822667325882.html) Simply use 'www.google.com/url?q=' and paste in the address of the article which has a paywall. ~~~ damian2000 That's awesome, thanks .. how does it work? I mean why does it allow google to bypass their paywall. ~~~ hristov Because google does not like to index pay-walled articles. They are either not indexed at all, or given a low score. This makes complete sense because Google wants their users to be happy and users are usually not very happy when they hit a pay-wall. Online publications, on the other hand, really want their paywalled articles to be indexed by Google. You may remember Murdoch did a lot of complaining about this a couple of years ago. So now publications do a little trick where they make the whole article available to people coming from Google but offer a paywall to anyone else. This means that you can usually access the entire article if you are redirected from google. ~~~ damian2000 Interesting, thanks. It seems counter-intuitive that they would allow all users from google to see the full article, since that's where you'd imagine a lot of traffic would come from. ------ wilhow Does linux users get a lower price? ------ jermaink OS discrimination ------ rsanchez1 Well, Orbitz certainly understands its audience. If you're willing to overpay on laptops, hopefully you're also willing to overpay on hotel stays. ------ uptown Dear Orbitz - I'm done using you. -Love Your Ex-customer ------ Kelliot Good business model. Exploiting the higher disposable income / lower intelligence of mac users for profit is awesome =) ~~~ jewbacca I see you're a new user: this type of comment is, by consensus and executive decree, not welcome on Hacker News. If you don't have something genuinely novel to contribute to the conversation, please do your part to keep the noise low. ~~~ RegEx > by consensus and executive decree Man, some people around here _really_ love the 'sound' of their own text. ~~~ adbge Hell, _I_ love the sound of his text. ~~~ RegEx And there's always someone there to appreciate the pretentiousness.
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The Relativity of Wrong (1989) - coffeeandjunk https://chem.tufts.edu/answersinscience/relativityofwrong.htm ====== Buldak I remember reading about this topic in philosophy class, namely, the Pessimistic Induction [1]. I've wondered if a similar argument could be made for moral progress. Certainly, many people are quick to make similarly skeptical arguments which point out that people in the past had different moral views than we do now, and no less confidence that they were right. If we were to survey the history of moral conventions, would we find that it converges in the same way as our scientific theories? (Does the arc of history bend toward justice?) [1] [https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific- realism/#PessI...](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific- realism/#PessIndu) ------ mixedmath The linked article is an article written by Asimov. The main idea is an allegory about how even though the Earth isn't flat, and the Earth isn't spherical, it is less wrong to say that the Earth is a sphere than to say that it is flat. The point it that it is exciting to be alive now, in a time when physics is becoming so much more "right" about so many things so quickly. Although I'm not sure if it exists, I would enjoy a brief description of ways in which physics is more "right" now than in 1989, when this was written. ~~~ vilhelm_s Specifically, he says the key period was 1900-1930. I guess something like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_scientific_discove...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_scientific_discoveries#20th_century) can be helpful, but I think none of the discoveries in the last 30 years are quite as world-changing as general relativity, atoms, quantum physics, or galaxies. ~~~ pmwhite Plate tectonics is a candidate to go on that list, and it was controversial until good undersea maps were available circa 1970. That is 50 years ago, not 30. ------ apo _I RECEIVED a letter the other day. It was handwritten in crabbed penmanship so that it was very difficult to read. Nevertheless, I tried to make it out just in case it might prove to be important. In the first sentence, the writer told me he was majoring in English literature, but felt he needed to teach me science. (I sighed a bit, for I knew very few English Lit majors who are equipped to teach me science, but I am very aware of the vast state of my ignorance and I am prepared to learn as much as I can from anyone, so I read on.)_ Here Asimov reveals the scientist's secret weapons: \- The source of an idea doesn't matter, only the idea itself. \- It's ok, even expected, to not know everything. ~~~ hermitdev I think it's worth noting, too, that science is very skeptical of itself. To my knowledge, there's only 3 accepted laws: those of thermodynamics. Science is not about necessarily finding __the __perfect explanation, but finding a __more __perfect explanation. Always speculating, testing, refining, building on the shoulders of the giants that have come before us. I doubt within my lifetime, or even in anyone 's lifetime, that we will truly have a Grand Universal Theory that fits 100% of the time. But, I have no doubt that we'll keeping making steps to a more perfect explanation. Sometimes it will be small steps, others huge leaps, but there will be progress, but no completion; at least that's my current thought. ------ markrages One possible confusion is the words used. "Right" and "wrong" have moral overtones. Asimov is using them to just mean "correct" and "incorrect". ~~~ pmwhite True. But I presume that Asimov is answering the letter using the language of the same. Translating "wrong" to "incorrect" does not add anything, better to take the issue head on using the same language. Better still would be to use "accuracy". But that presumes the audience is ready to understand the nature of the issue in a scientific and logical way. We want to get there, but we cannot start there. ~~~ shoo Accuracy is a good choice of word. It doesn't come with the baggage of being a binary classification. The terminology I jump to is "approximation error", where error is some quantified measurement of (in)accuracy. But using the word "error" might lead one to think of e.g. "having erred" or "being in error", which is unhelpful. There's a quote from Box I like: "all models are wrong, some models are useful". I guess this might be rephrased less snappily as "no model is completely accurate, but some models are useful". Replace "model" with "theory", "belief" as desired. That said, some models or theories fall into the category of being "not even wrong", i.e. to be so incoherent or unfalsifiable that it isn't even theoretically possible to measure how accurate they are. Pauli: "Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig; es ist nicht einmal falsch!" ------ thedancollins I agree with the English Lit major. No education is complete without a healthy lack of respect for the same. "Healthy" being the key word.
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Can Psychiatry Turn Itself Around? - okket http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/can-psychiatry-turn-itself-around/ ====== phren0logy I'm a psychiatrist. It is always amazing to me that despite four years of medical school, six years of residency and fellowships, and four board certifications, the assumption is that I have no idea what I'm talking about and have evil motives. There are fair criticisms of psychiatry, there are bad psychiatrists, but mostly there are crappy generalizations. Good psychiatrists have an understanding of what medications can and cannot do, and a well-rounded view of the person they are treating as a whole human being. I work with the mentally ill who are involved in criminal justice, both juveniles and adults. I can assure you, having more psychiatrists would help a lot of people. ~~~ mattnewport I'm curious what you make of the claims Robert Whitaker makes in "Anatomy of an Epidemic" and elsewhere? Psychiatry comes off looking quite bad in his analysis and he is far from the only critic of the profession. My attempts to find convincing rebuttals of his claims from Psychiatrists have so far drawn a blank. In a nutshell for those not familiar with the book, he presents convincing evidence that most psychiatric medicines have no significant short term benefits over active placebos and in fact worsen long term outcomes and that the profession has been complicit in presenting unsupported hypotheses about chemical imbalances in the brain causing conditions such as depression as established fact and in pushing drugs as the primary means of treatment without sufficient evidence of their efficacy and largely ignoring worrying evidence of long term harm. I'll admit to having a pre existing suspicion of psychiatry stemming from taking a degree in psychology in the UK but after reading this book and digging more deeply I have to say it looks far worse for psychiatry than I previously imagined. ~~~ djcjgshjjc It looks like meta-analyses published after that book support the efficacy of anti-depressants, are you familiar with this evidence? [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake...](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor) ~~~ mattnewport This seems to be a fairly balanced (and pretty long!) review of the evidence from Scott Alexander who is a psychiatrist (I believe) which comes down on the side that the balance of the evidence is that SSRIs do have an effect that can't be explained purely as active placebo: [http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/ssris-much-more-than- yo...](http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/ssris-much-more-than-you-wanted- to-know/) Here's another 2014 article leaning the other way by Irving Kirsch, one of the more prominent researchers to question the evidence for anti depressant efficacy: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/) In _Anatomy of an Epidemic_ Robert Whitaker details many of the problems around the published studies that raise real concerns how bias free the remaining positive results of these studies might be. In addition, pretty much all of the discussion above is based around short term effects and perhaps the most worrying part of Whitaker's book for me is the suggestive evidence of devastating long term effects of many psychiatric drugs, SSRIs included. Personally I think the bar should be rather higher for evidence of short term benefit for any drug than the 'optimistic' view of the evidence for SSRIs and especially in light of evidence of the drug making the condition it is supposed to treat significantly worse over the long term. Given that even proponents of SSRIs seem to accept that talk therapy is equally effective I know I'd rather take the drug and side effect free option but Scott Alexander gives a different take on that in his article, pointing out that drugs are much cheaper (and hence more profitable for both psychiatrists and drug companies as Whitaker points out in his book). ------ marsrover The last Psychiatrist I went to prescribed me 4mg of Klonopin a day for anxiety. The one before that prescribed me 40-50mg of Adderall a day for ADHD and about 600mg of Seroquel a night for sleeping problems. Both times I decided to quit going and tapered myself off. There never really asked how I felt or seemed to care about me in any way shape or form. Just, "Here's your drugs, see you next month." I have a horrible opinion about the entire profession of Psychiatry and at this point do not trust any of them in the slightest. I have not seen one in years. These days if I have a degenerated mental health in some form (whether that be inability to focus, sleep, or bouts of anxiety), marijuana is my go to solution. ~~~ alleychnt Psychiatrists are a bit like chiropractors. They want to be seen as "doctors", but none of what they do has any scientific basis. Ever notice how psychiatrists just prescribe you random medications without knowing how, or even if, they work? The most damning fact is that I've never met anyone on psych meds who is doing really great. ~~~ marsrover I have noticed. Multiple times I've gone to a Psychiatrist and they have decided to try something because it's new and supposed to work, when the reality is they've only ever put 2 or 3 clients on it and it has been working for a few weeks, and the medication itself has only been out a year. In addition, the worst times in my life were the times when I was taking psychiatric medications. ~~~ phren0logy I'm sorry this has been your experience, but please don't throw my entire profession under the bus because of it. ~~~ intopieces Your profession needs no help from marsrover to find itself under the wheels of a bus. Every other medical revolution -- such as the rise of antibiotics, the pioneering of complex surgeries, and the advancements in medical imaging -- have resulted in a net reduction of people suffering from the ailments those tools are involved in treating. Not so with psychiatry. The more drugs that are developed, the more illnesses are discovered to use them on. You'll have to excuse the skepticism of some us who have seen loved ones suffer through debilitating, sometimes permanent side effects from drugs their psychiatrists prescribed. Your profession will get the benefit of the doubt when fewer of us are caring for those loved ones. ~~~ vonmoltke > You'll have to excuse the skepticism of some us who have seen loved ones > suffer through debilitating, sometimes permanent side effects from drugs > their psychiatrists prescribed. What debilitating side effects are those? How does their frequency compare to side effects for non-psychiatric drugs and treatments? ~~~ intopieces You know it's odd: in all those years I spent helping my dad with his knees shot from zoloft induced weight gain or waking my roommate up because she drank too much to counteract the stimulants they prescribed to balance the benzos or sleeping next to a partner with a permanent, random, violent parkinsonian tremor caused by antipsychotics, I never considered doing a frequency analysis against the myriad of unrecommended non-psychiatric drugs and treatments out there. Unfortunately, neither did any of their doctors, it would seem. ~~~ vonmoltke You know, it's odd: I don't recall asking you if you had personally done a study or frequency analysis. I recall asking a rhetorical question as a follow-up to a specific question about your claim in order to head off anecdote poker. Seems like you decided to jump straight into it, though. So, how many people have you had to deal with who had night terrors due to Chantix? Who became addicted to opiod pain medications? Who developed T2DM as a result of corticosteroid use? Who nearly bled out because of blood thinners? You specifically demonized psychiatric medicine. You know people who have had pretty bad experiences with psychiatric medications but none who have had similar with non-psychiatric medications. My point is not to doubt that these side effects exist, but to illustrate that they exist for a host of non- psychiatric medications as well. Many of those are just as over-prescribed as psychiatric medications, and often by the same general practitioners over- prescribing them. ~~~ intopieces How does the existence of side effects in other medicines affect the status of psychiatric medicines and their percieved (in)effectiveness or their overprescription status? You claim I'm 'demonizing' (i.e., being unfair towards) a subset of the medical profession when in fact I'm only relaying my personal experience and skepticism based on that. I don't doubt that there are a whole host of other medicines whose effictiveness is unknown and whose popularity is primarly due to its availability as free samples in doctor's offices and the U.S.'s notoriously effective prescription drug advertisement industry. But to make that a point in this discussion seems like a misdirection more than an counter-argument. Two things can be bad at the same time independently. To answer your questions: I dated someone with night terrors from Chantix, have a relative who is addicted to opoids (but who thinks no one knows when he's high at Christmas dinner), but have thankfully never had to deal with the last two. Even still -- none of those latter series were prescribed to treat disorders discovered _after_ the invention of the drug itself. This is the primary point of skepticism: horrible side effects for well-advertised drugs for disorders we just recently discovered affecting, what was astutely noted by another commentor, the most complex organ of the body. Many psychiatric medications are an excellent example of 'when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.' ~~~ vonmoltke > How does the existence of side effects in other medicines affect the status > of psychiatric medicines and their percieved (in)effectiveness or their > overprescription status? > You claim I'm 'demonizing' (i.e., being unfair towards) a subset of the > medical profession when in fact I'm only relaying my personal experience and > skepticism based on that. I don't doubt that there are a whole host of other > medicines whose effictiveness is unknown and whose popularity is primarly > due to its availability as free samples in doctor's offices and the U.S.'s > notoriously effective prescription drug advertisement industry. Because you singled out and attacked psychiatrists and psychiatry as if there were something inherent to that field of medicine and that class of medications that is not present in other fields and types. You specifically said: >> Every other medical revolution -- such as the rise of antibiotics, the pioneering of complex surgeries, and the advancements in medical imaging -- have resulted in a net reduction of people suffering from the ailments those tools are involved in treating. >> Not so with psychiatry. The more drugs that are developed, the more illnesses are discovered to use them on. That is not merely relating your experience. That is throwing a particular medical specialty under the bus for what are in fact widespread issues with medical practice. > Even still -- none of those latter series were prescribed to treat disorders > discovered after the invention of the drug itself. This is the primary point > of skepticism: horrible side effects for well-advertised drugs for disorders > we just recently discovered affecting, what was astutely noted by another > commentor, the most complex organ of the body. Are you claiming that there were no mental disorders until the advent of psychiatric drugs? That a subset of disorders are just marketing ploys by a psychiatrist-industrial complex? ~~~ intopieces It's here you might benefit from the book: Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness To explain further the unique situation that mental health drugs present. You might benefit especially from the notes section, to which his citations refer. Am I saying there is a conspiracy between psychiatrists and pharmacuetical companies? Were it only so simple! There are a myriad of complex reasons why we're in the situation we're in -- but claiming that the situation is not unique, that my discussion of my personal experience and the research behind it is somehow a 'demonization' of an otherwise unremarkable industry belies both the thesis of the article and experiences of millions of patients. ~~~ vonmoltke > To explain further the unique situation that mental health drugs present. ... > claiming that the situation is not unique, that my discussion of my personal > experience and the research behind it is somehow a 'demonization' of an > otherwise unremarkable industry belies both the thesis of the article and > experiences of millions of patients You are saying it is unique, I am saying it is not. How am I misrepresenting the thesis? ------ nwah1 We're all aware that most of the drugs that are common in the profession have serious side effects. I'm glad the author called for his colleagues to focus more on the whole body, since realistically lifestyle and nutritional changes can have as profound effects as drugs, with no side effects. I tend to think subclinical deficiencies in various nutrients can play a big role. Most people are already aware of the imporant brain benefits of Vitamin D and Omega 3, but there's others. Tryptophan: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3405680/#RSTB201...](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3405680/#RSTB20120109C25) Lithium: [http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/opinion/sunday/should- we-a...](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/opinion/sunday/should-we-all-take- a-bit-of-lithium.html) Uridine: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3080753/](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3080753/) Magnesium: [https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary- psychiatry...](https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary- psychiatry/201106/magnesium-and-the-brain-the-original-chill-pill) NAC: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044191/](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044191/) ~~~ AstralStorm Lithium, uridine... no side effects? You must be joking. Even at subclinical dosages there are sometimes side effects from those. Dietary changes have a ton of shoe effects as well. Even the dieteticians cannot really find precise enough consensus on these. ~~~ nwah1 As the article mentions, the dosages of lithium that are naturally in water tend to be well below the levels that we're familiar with in prescription lithium. (Less than 1/1000th the amount) But if lithium is more like a micronutrient, then long term administration of low dose lithium would be much better than temporary use of prescription dosages, and have very few side effects. ------ 1_2__3 Had a doctor prescribe two meds once, then a few weeks later asked me how one of them was working. I was honestly confused by the question, since I have no idea how one drug is working when I've only ever taken it in tandem with something else. The very question indicates at best an unacceptable level of indifference, at worst outright incompetence. ~~~ Neeek Wouldn't that imply that the second drug might just be there to ease side effects of the first? Regulate hormonal levels or blood pressure, or any other functions that might not be directly related to how effective the other one is but simply keeps everything in order? I get what you're saying, but incompetence is a bit of an extreme conclusion to draw from you not knowing what your prescription is meant to do. ------ force_reboot There seems to be a huge gap between what psychiatrists believe and how psychiatric knowledge is presented to the general public. For example, I'm not aware of any _scientific_ evidence that depression is qualitatively different from being unhappy, or that depression can't be caused by events that would make a typical person unhappy, or cured by the opposite. And I'm fairly certain that very little such evidence exists, because this is not the concern of psychiatrists, they just want to treat the person, not define categories per se. But I believe that psychiatrists allow the public to form this flawed understanding because they think it will lead people to treat people with depression with more sympathy and treat depression like a real problem. To me the more honest approach would be to simply say that unhappiness is a real problem and any approach or treatment that works should be considered. ~~~ epistasis If you'd look you'd find plenty of evidence of the sort that you think doesn't exist. Try a popular book like Against Depression as a starter. I think that the existence of such evidence also invalidates the rest of your prejudices that you express. ~~~ force_reboot I don't have time to read every book out there, so when I look for answers to questions like this I look for sources that are authoritative, that is, sources that summarize the majority opinion in a field. The book you recommend doesn't seem to be that, and so I'm not convinced that it's worth reading. Are there particular studies in the book that specifically address whether depression is qualitatively different from unhappiness? Does the book cite mainstream opinions by psychiatrists and if so, what opinions does it cite? ~~~ epistasis This is not secret information, some key google terms may be "biology of depression" or something like that. Just one piece of the literature that you might find convincing (not sure if its from that book or another) that you might find convincing is that there are structural differences in the pre-frontal cortex that can be seen under a microscope. The biological basis of depression is something that's so well established that strident doubt of it means that you can't be troubled to look for anything. It's like being convinced that evolution can't possibly be true because biologists can't be trusted. ~~~ force_reboot I think that a "biological basis" means something different to you than to me. How exactly do these studies show that depression is different from being unhappy? Did they study the brains of merely unhappy people and find no such biological differences? Again, in my understanding psychiatrists and researchers make no attempt to differentiate between depression and unhappiness because they have no reason to make this distinction. I'm going to assume that your argument is that if depression is caused by biological factors then it must be treated differently from unhappiness that is caused by life events. But in that case you will have to explain how this is consistent with the fact that "...depressive episodes are strongly correlated with adverse events..."[0]. This fact seems more consistent with either reverse causation (depression causes biological changes) or that depression can have multiple causes, and can occur in the absence of a biological cause. [0] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorder#Psyc...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorder#Psychological) ------ fuzionhk Most drugs on the market today have side effects that are serious to most people. Also the fact is that now a days it seems that almost all kid have "ADHD" or "ADD" and are getting put on stimulants for it. I don't get it at all. I was put on antidepressants when I was young and it really could have fucked me up if my parents kept listening to my doctor. ~~~ derefr ADHD is overdiagnosed _and_ under diagnosed. (It's just _badly_ diagnosed, really.) On the one hand, parents get their kids prescribed stimulants (which necessarily entails a—usually fake—ADD diagnosis) for the same reason university students go pick up illicit stimulants: they think it'll "make" them study. That is not the problem that ADHD causes, nor is that the benefit stimulants provide, but it's what parents _think_. On the other hand, many people only discover as adults that they've had ADHD their entire lives, and have suffered unnecessarily through 3+ decades of being unable to motivate themselves to do homework/projects before they're overdue, or practice anything, or focus on reading rather than (badly) multitasking five different things, or put themselves to bed before 4AM, or even remember half the things they need to bring with them when they leave the house. ------ codefolder "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." \- Jiddu Krishnamurti ------ tcj_phx If Psychiatry wants to "turn itself around", it needs to do some house cleaning. In a recent "skeptic" magazine [1], Harriet Hall, M.D. had this to say about the situation: "Psychotropic drugs are far from ideal. They don’t work well for everyone, and they can sometimes cause devastating side effects. But they do save lives, and they do allow some patients to lead a more-or-less normal life. _They are the best we have at the moment._ " (emphasis added) [1] [http://www.skeptic.com/magazine/archives/21.1/](http://www.skeptic.com/magazine/archives/21.1/) This is an apology for the status quo, and distracts from the main issue. My girlfriend is one of the ones for whom "psychotropic drugs" don't work at all - in fact, I believe that the psychotropic drugs that she's been prescribed have a lot to do with her present predicament. Haldol - sold as an anti- psychotic - is well known to cause the condition it supposedly treats. Dr. Hall states that these drugs "save lives", but I wonder what the ratio of "lives ruined" to "lives saved" is. There are non-psychotropic drugs that have been very helpful for my girlfriend, but her psychiatrists don't know to use them. I've spent a few hours today revising my latest petition to the courts asking them protect my girlfriend from the palliative treatments that she has been ordered to endure. The main thrust of my argument is that the medications aren't working because they do not address the causes of her condition. The causes are perfectly obvious to me, but the doctors have all been "shooting in the dark", hoping that the next pill will work better than the last one. I suspect that "exhaustion" is related to most psychiatric problems. New research linking psychosis to an inability to produce cortisol is a good clue: [https://www.jcu.edu.au/news/releases/2016/june/stress- hormon...](https://www.jcu.edu.au/news/releases/2016/june/stress-hormone-link- with-psychosis) ------ pc2g4d Psychiatry's trouble is that it tries to treat emotional problems using drugs. That's also the entire point of psychiatry. It's in a crisis because "stabilizing" people by numbing their brains does nothing to help them face their problems. A profession of cleaners whose main technique was to sweep everything under the rug would also face crisis at some point. ~~~ conanbatt Thats not the problem, its a tool to solve a situation. If someone is emotionally suffering so much as to not perform a job, not get out of bed, talking with them will not save their lifes. Treating the symptoms is one very legitimate way of dealing with a disease. ------ morgante > Psychiatry programs attract medical students with lower board scores and > fewer academic honors on average compared to other specialties. It sounds like a self-reinforcing problem. Psychiatry's bad reputation leads to it having less qualified practitioners, thereby justifying the poor reputation. I personally do not place much value in the field. It seems to monopolize on creating problems where none existed, and thereby increasing profits. In particular, the fact that most treatments seem to be lifetime is suspicious. ~~~ wbl Working as a psychiatrist is hard. Reimbursement is low, and many serious patients do not have private insurance. ------ forkandwait Interesting that the author does not cite anything describing the resounding success of psychiatry... ~~~ droopyEyelids Still it was more honest than the forensic odontologists' assessment of their profession. [https://theintercept.com/2016/03/25/in-las-vegas- embattled-f...](https://theintercept.com/2016/03/25/in-las-vegas-embattled- forensics-experts-respond-to-scandals-and-flawed-convictions/) ------ jokoon The future is really about making advance in understanding the human brain and neurosciences. If AI could be really good at anything, it's really about making solid steps in psychology and have opportunities to stomp down myths. ------ _greim_ Doesn't scientology have some kind of weird self-declared feud with psychiatry? I wonder if they've perhaps been sowing FUD whenever and wherever possible. ~~~ tcj_phx Last week I posted a section [1] from Robert Whitaker's book _Anatomy of an Epidemic_ about how Scientology was probably used to deflect attention from the ineffectiveness of commonly used drugs. [1] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12222898](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12222898) ------ Pica_soO The basic lie that psychiatry is based upon, is that there is a sickness where there is suffering. Not neural phenotype, that yes can suffer, but have been useful for various enterprises and endeavor of humans kind. Manic-Depressive where our "suicidal" explorers, alcoholics stopped us from being nomadic, gays pressured into churches formed the first institutions and created contract security. The list continues near endless. If psychiatry would be a honest science, it would look upon cause and effect, asking what did this or that creatures side effect accomplish do to pay the ferry-woman. And can we optimize that- can we create creature constellations which produce new ideas like a machine. But it does not want to know, it wants to heal, which it can not heal as long as it cant resequence DNA in a living human. It doesn't even want to know the possible consequences if it could cure. Do not interpret this statement as a general dismissive of proper treatment. Treatment of some neuronal constitutions allows some humans to live in this society. But i want to know what society trades personal meh-ness for. ~~~ serge2k I honestly have no idea what you are talking about here. ~~~ selimthegrim He's riffing on pop psych theories about the "warrior gene" and suchlike. I'm pretty sure there were institutions predating Holy Mother Church. ~~~ Pica_soO Disliking complexity, are we? And having a warrior gene, is actually something worthy of treatment in current society. Warriors, are useless today and will be for the foreseeable time. If there is such a gene, that shapes its owners brain in such a way. But the main point is, that hunting for local optima of personal happiness, is sacrificing the upholding or even gain regarding personal happiness in the future. And psychiatry is neither cartographic why and for what society became composed of what it is and is neither offering constellations society could become. BRB Got to go to Turings Barbershop. Best haircut in the city. Though sometimes conversation gets stuck on who shaves the barber.
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Microsoft is testing a new mosquito trap to fight Zika - nmc http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/21/technology/microsoft-mosquito-zika/index.html ====== MollyR Just wondering, why microsoft is spending resources on this, rather than its flagship products. It feels like a pr move.
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Look out for No. 1 - yread http://timharford.com/2011/09/look-out-for-no-1/ ====== mdda "Nobody seems sure why so much data has the Benford distribution. " : Have a look at [http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/benfords-law- zipfs-...](http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/benfords-law-zipfs-law- and-the-pareto-distribution/) (cited in the previous discussion on HN) for an excellent exposition of the theory, and an explanation of the 'power' of the Benford Law. ~~~ bermanoid That Terry Tao article is excellent, as usual (well, at least for math dorks - what's unusual about this one is that you don't need a very high level of dorkery to grok it 100%) and the "executive summary" reason that Benford's law applies so broadly is easy to find: "More generally, it is not hard to show that if X obeys the continuous Benford’s law, and one multiplies X by some positive multiplier Y which is independent of the first digit of X (and, a fortiori, is independent of the fractional part of log_10(X)), one obtains another quantity X' = XY which also obeys the continuous Benford’s law." In other words, multiplicative combinations of (independent) quantities will inherit Benford's law as long as any one of the quantities obeys it on its own, so it just takes one sub-factor that grows exponentially in order for an entire distribution to follow the law. ------ pigbucket Good to be aware of this if you plan to falsify your tax returns, according to a '98 NYT article (from which this post takes its neat title) [http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/04/science/following- benford-...](http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/04/science/following-benford-s- law-or-looking-out-for-no-1.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm) ------ amirmc Previous discussion of Benford's Law on HN <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2701342> ------ RockofStrength I'm impressed that Madoff was smart enough to mimic Benford distribution in his monthly returns (that's what the article led me to infer). I actually made an r/math post about Benford's Law that I thought was pretty interesting, although it didn't get much attention or many comments (admittedly bad signs). Any peer review (or su-peer-ior review) is appreciated. Here's a snippet: "...generation of the geometric layout for Benford first digits is a similar process to creating a Sierpinski Triangle by drawing a triangle, and randomly plotting midpoint dots between vertices and sides recursively. In the Benford case the plotted dots are instead individual numbers, which share a geometric connection (e.g. two galaxies colliding will on average be a doubling, so galaxy size should possess Benford distribution)." [http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/gkj2i/benfords_law_exp...](http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/gkj2i/benfords_law_explained_through_a_tree_of_first/) ------ alecco Last month Khan and Vi Hart made some very interesting videos on Benford's Law: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KmeGpjeLZ0> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZUDoEdjTzg> ------ borgar No link in the article so here is the report cited: [http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0475.2011....](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0475.2011.00542.x/full) ------ chailatte I don't think the issue at hand is that fraud detections are unsophisticated. The issue at hand is that the fraud detections are in cahoot with the fraud themselves. For example: Enron, Worldcom and Accenture (past) Greece, Italy, Spain and Goldman Sachs, Fitch, Moody, S&P (present) Chinese local banks, Chinese companies and SEC (future) The problem with hackers is that they always try to find mathematical solutions to moral problems. What the world needs right now is a moral solution. A beheading for those that have fouled. Unfortunately, the hackers, the workers - ones that actually have the power to demand changes - are willingly allowing themselves to be exploited by those that lie, and not demanding any moral judgements. They're not interested in changing the politics, they claim. They just want to keep producing interesting things, they exclaim. They don't realize they're the ones keeping the lie going. They're the ones propping up this decrepit shell of a society. Until one day the shell collapses on their kids, anyways. ~~~ william42 The problem is that revolutions tend to be more harmful than their predecessors: see China in the 60s, for example. ~~~ 0x12 That's definitely not a given. Revolutions are a time of instability and the outcome can be worse or better. It mostly depends on what precipitated the revolution in the first place, how educated the people in the country where the revolution takes place are and how involved they plan on being once the violence dies down. A revolution is a time of transition and instability without any guarantees towards the outcome.
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Spammers, Evildoers, and Opportunists - blasdel http://powazek.com/posts/2090 ====== blasdel "SEO consultants are just web designers who are incapable of doing the other 90% of the job" ~~~ meatbag By the same logic, web designers are just web developers who are incapable of doing the other 90% of the job. ------ cousin_it The article's reasoning seems to imply that everyone who releases a good product without advertising _will_ eventually succeed by word of mouth. This doesn't sound to me like an accurate description of our world, though I'd have liked it to work that way. ------ greyman >> 1\. The good advice is obvious, the rest doesn’t work. Not really. The rest also works, or used to work in the past. >> Occasionally a darkside SEO master may find some loophole in the Google algorithm to exploit, which might actually lead to an increase in traffic. But that ill-gotten traffic gain won’t last long. << That's true, but sometimes it last for several years. In some specific cases, it lasts only a few days, but brings so much revenue that it is still worth doing it. >> Remember this: It’s not your job to create content for Google. :-) This is laughable. Everyone can create content, no matter how spammy it might look, that's just a freedom of expression. It's Google problem that they index it. But of course, there are shady practices like automatically spamming blog comments, and that's evil. I think SEO is ok, it made some people very rich by exploiting search engine holes, which then allowed Google to fix them and make the engine better. ------ Psyonic "But seriously - there's a pervading myth in the search engine marketing and optimization industry that if you're a good boy, the engines will pat your head and will reward you with fine rankings, even if it may take an incarnation or two. That's unfortunate because not only does it fuzz up the hardcore technological issues involved, it also attracts all sorts of gut level thinkers to the SEM world, flogging their gut level advice ("content is king" being just one pervasive popular myth in question) and confusing each other and everybody else. This is a basically religious, moralistic attitude, and quite an inadequate one when dealing with technological issues." -- Taken from [http://www.searchengineblog.com/interviews/interview_ralph_t...](http://www.searchengineblog.com/interviews/interview_ralph_tegtmeier.htm) ------ chaosmachine _"If someone charges you for SEO, you have been conned."_ Not really. ~~~ ja2ke True, you haven't been conned, you've just made two shitty hiring decisions in a row -- paying sone designer or developer who didn't build you a good site, and then paying a snake oil salesman to try and make your troubles disappear. ~~~ chaosmachine There's lots of legitimate ways to do SEO. Making the site more crawlable, setting up proper title tags, designing a good robots.txt, etc. Not all SEO is blackhat. ~~~ Psyonic The author calls this "making good websites," and believes that if you run a website at all, you should be forced to learn about all of this stuff, even if your passion is just for writing. Further, he goes on to say its "obvious." By no means do I agree with him, just letting you know how he'd respond (taken from his response to similar comments on the article.) ------ jellicle The problem is, his statement is false: "Which brings us, finally, to the One True Way to get a lot of traffic on the web. It’s pretty simple, and I’m going to give it to you here, for free: Make something great. Tell people about it. Do it again." That isn't the One True Way to get a lot of traffic on the web. It's A way, and not the easiest way. Maybe he thinks it should be the best or only way. Maybe I think it should be. But it isn't. As long as search engine spammers can make a living, they will continue to spam search engines, and simply declaring that that is "bad" is going to have about as much effect as declaring that dealing drugs or prostituting oneself is "bad" has had on those professions. ------ DanielBMarkham This article lost me about half-way down with all of the over-the-top language. Google is not all that is good and just in the world, and those that manipulate its algorithms for their own ends are not all that is evil and base. Come back when you've gained a bit of nuance. ------ bhseo "Spam" exists in most communication channels. Telemarketers in call centers. Automated voice messages. Bulk SMS messages. Bluetooth spam. Junk mail. Email spam. Usenet spam. IRC spam. Web spam. Word- of-mouth spam. Celebrity “endorsements”. Street peddlers. Classifieds spam. Flyer spam. Sky writing, flying banners etc. Huge billboards with blinking fucking lights. I could go on for a while. Are all of those people evil opportunistic bastard cockroaches? ~~~ f00 Yep, pretty much. Just because preying on ignorance is easy and lucrative does not make it okay. ~~~ bhseo I'm not very fond of advertising as a practice in general. I'm not trying to say all those practices are ok, just because a lot of people carry them out. Is the pilot with the flying banner evil? Is my low-volume, efficient, targeted, semi-automated marketing evil? How many of you have cold called people? Are you evil? Is Google evil, trying to cut into every online (and offline) publisher's profit?
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The Fallacy of Technical Debt - fpgaminer https://medium.com/@fpgaminer/the-fallacy-of-technical-debt-202f7406337e#.4wxxnqksy ====== devnonymous > This is because the real cost of software is time. Exactly... And so it follows that technical debt is the debt of time. What your quick and dirty ^solution^ achieves today will be more _expensive_ in terms of time, to fix/scale/debug/maintain tomorrow. How is the author not seeing this? There is a cost and a value to everything. A highly valuable quick and dirty solution today makes sense only if it will cost less to throw away, replace or clean up. Sigh, I'm tried of this industry that keeps not just reinventing wheel but rediscovering the entire process that leads up to it. ~~~ zzzcpan "What your quick and dirty ^solution^ achieves today will be more expensive in terms of time, to fix/scale/debug/maintain tomorrow." This is also a fallacy. You are assuming that you know how and what to do better today to make it less expensive tomorrow. The simple truth is - you don't. You can only know how to do better once you do it in a quick and dirty way and it might not even be worth it. Technical debt is very broken and very misleading concept that should be avoided. ~~~ devnonymous My comment itself is a good demonstration of the point I was trying to make. I anticipated the possibility of misunderstanding or misinterpretation of my first statement and put in the time to add the second to qualify my point. I did not intend make a blanket generalization against quick and dirty solutions (ref: google about Doug McIlroy and Don Knuth trying to solve the same problem[1]). I am in fact stressing that there exists a tradeoff that needs to be considered. Usually the tradeoff is made towards less work (ie: lazy programmers) -- less work _for the foreseeable future_ (and if you can't forsee at least somewhat in the future, you're not doing it right). By responding to just the first part of my comment you've confirmed the last part. [1] [https://www.google.com/search?q=literate+programming+the+wor...](https://www.google.com/search?q=literate+programming+the+word+count+problem) edit: I mistaken said Bill Joy instead of Doug MaIlroy initially ~~~ zzzcpan "and if you can't forsee at least somewhat in the future, you're not doing it right" This is the idea I'm trying to discuss. You cannot know future trade offs in advance. You can only make a bunch of assumptions about the future. But the more assumptions you make, the fewer of them will be correct or worthy of the time and even more will not be addressed at all. Which defeats the purpose of the technical debt concept. Jumping into the future with the "no-technical-debt" solution is generally a bad idea.
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Home Industries Health Care Many diabetics won’t be able to get insulin by 2030 - srameshc https://www.marketwatch.com/story/many-diabetics-wont-be-able-to-get-insulin-by-2030-unless-big-changes-happen-2018-11-21 ====== capsch Annoyingly doesn't say WHY.
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Minimalism in feature implementation presentation from Social App Workshop - abraham http://vimeo.com/13770948 ====== abraham I would love feedback on content, style, usefulness, etc.
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Show HN: SCSS live editing with Sublime Text - bwm https://github.com/mechio/takana ====== akhleung LibSass maintainer here -- it's really great to see another project pick it up, and although we're aware that we still have a fair bit of catching up to do, things like this give us all the more incentive! ~~~ iamlacroix Thanks for all your work on LibSass! ------ ErikHuisman Is this different than say grunt-watch with livereload.js? Edit: grunt-tekana links to [http://usetakana.com](http://usetakana.com) ~~~ nc Yes. It updates per keystroke rather than per save. We've found that makes it perfect for sketching in code and tweaking a design. ~~~ ErikHuisman Awesome.. Id like to try is but it doesn't do compass? ------ criswell This is awesome and I plan on using it. The only issue/feature is that it's using libsass, it definitely has some catching up to do to compete with Ruby's version's features but damn it's fast. ------ coderzach Wow, this is really amazing! It makes editing scss in sublime feel like modifying css from the in browser dev tools. Very well done! ------ jbeja Is only for OSX or is just tested in it?
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Paris Rolls Out Sidewalk Urinals to Tame "Wild Peeing" - gscott https://www.npr.org/2018/08/14/638512558/nope-those-arent-mailboxes-paris-rolls-out-sidewalk-urinals ====== cpursley This would not be a problem if Europe had free toilets like the United States. I really don't understand why I should have to pay to pee. ~~~ strict9 Where is this in the US? McDonalds? Those don't exist except interstate highways. ~~~ jstarfish This shouldn't be downvoted. Restrooms within U.S. urban centers are hard to find, for patrons only, if they have public restrooms at all. Seattle, NYC, Atlanta, San Diego, L.A...all the same. There's a reason people urinate behind dumpsters. 10 years ago on NYE at Times Square, people were literally dropping squat or pissing in bottles in the middle of a televised street for lack of anywhere else to do it. I've been desperate enough to have to to it myself. Somewhere in the suburbs? Sure, just stop at a McDonald's, a public park, a mall, or any number of places with toilet access. But cities themselves largely lack them. ~~~ Nasrudith Time square was also cordoned off during New Years celebrations I believe. Why they didn't include sufficient portapotties within the perimeter but out of central show areas is beyond me. ~~~ jstarfish Even worse, the way they had security set up was that herded everybody into corrals after frisking them. No re-entry into your pen was permitted. There were portapotties stationed up and down the strip...outside of the corrals. If you dared to use them, you were done for the night-- you couldn't get back into your pen unless you evaded the cops and hopped a fence. ------ tomc1985 Netherlands has public urinals in some places (Dam Square in Amsterdam, for example), the sky didn't fall or anything. They are a little unsightly but younger drunken me certainly appreciated their presence. I wish there was some equivalent to these things suitable for women though, it isn't fair that we have all the fun :) ~~~ donkeyd They're all over Amsterdam. There's an app for people who are boating that shows every urinal next to the canals. It's very convenient! Edit: There's even ones that come up out of the ground at night! ------ LarryL I'm french, I live near Paris and very often walk in Paris for various reasons (shopping, etc) The BIG problem is that the automated public (and free, which was not the case before) toilets are NOT numerous enough (400 only according to the article, what a joke!), you have to _search_ for them, even in the very popular -and touristic- areas where I usually roam. But the other, and far worse, problem is that they are SLOOOOOOOOOW!!!! Obviously only one person can use the toilet at a time, then when they exit, the toilet auto-cleans itself, which takes FOREVER, and I mean a good couple of minutes, maybe more. Imagine a line of ten people in front of you (it happens)... You'll have a 30 minutes wait, if not more! I won't insist on the fact that after the auto-cleaning the toilets are still (understandably) wet on the floor and the toilet seat, which is not the most pleasant thing. But I agree that it's not an easy thing to do. I will also pass quickly on the fact that sometimes you find used needles (left by drug addicts) in the hand washing bowl... In some of the most touristic places (remember that France is the most visited country in the world, and Paris draws an incredible number of visitors, especially during the holidays), you can see ONE or TWO toilets, and that's it, for thousands of people! That's a total joke. As for those new urinals, who would want to use those? I don't want to pee in front of everybody, thank you! There are plenty of possible more secluded spots. The idea of adding more toilets is one thing, and more efficient (and less cumbersome) models compared to the current ones would be a VERY welcome idea, but this solution is in my opinion not well studied. Plus it does not help women (~50% of the public) who also need to use toilets... And it would also be good if toilets were available in the subway! That's where I've seen the most people take "wild pees" (usually again a wall in the stations), it's the WORST place, it's disgusting. ------ kiddico Before reading the article my first thought was that there was not adequate public restrooms, but its mentioned they've already added 400. It would be interesting to know if the incident rate dropped after adding them, and if so then maybe they need to add more. I'm not sure how much area the 400 had to cover, but it might not have been enough. ~~~ rtkwe 400 for a large city like Paris isn't that much and discoverability is an issue. They're fairly densely packed in some areas [0] I'm guessing near restaurant/bar heavy areas but fairly sparse out side of that. [0] [https://www.paris.fr/services-et-infos- pratiques/environneme...](https://www.paris.fr/services-et-infos- pratiques/environnement-et-espaces-verts/proprete/les-sanisettes-2396) ------ titanix2 This is a return of the 19 century « vespasiennes » (public pissoirs) that were removed partly because they were detourned by men for other purposes. By that time homosexuality was frowned upon. The new version take less space but also offer less privacy; it’s a weird choice in my opinion. ~~~ blang Not just 19th century: [https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle- news/seattles-5-million...](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle- news/seattles-5-million-automated-public-toilets-sold-for-12000/) less privacy as a design choice seems to be very deliberate ------ jwilk Text-only version: [https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=638512558](https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=638512558) Archived copy (with photo): [https://archive.is/Ycjrc](https://archive.is/Ycjrc) ------ torstenvl This is both hilarious and very useful. Parisian culture leans toward leisurely café sipping, which means there aren't a lot of Starbucks-type places where one can stop quickly to pee and grab a drink or snack. Current options are to pay for access to a little cabin-style bathroom (even those aren't always easy to find), or line up for a place that permits bathroom use without essentially renting a table for an hour (the line for a bathroom at McDonald's on the Champs Élysée can stretch out the door)... or pee in an alley or subway. I'll be interested to see how this is received by Parisians. ~~~ lainga Is it for the same reason there are no trash cans in Japan? You're expected to keep that stuff at home, as home business? ~~~ Nasrudith I thought that was related to the nerve gas attacks on the subway and deciding they would rather have litter sweeped up than standing cans which may hide bombs. ------ hackermailman [http://uritrottoir.com](http://uritrottoir.com) that marketing of the guy taking a selfie while using one. We have free robotoilets here but drug addicts cover the floors in used needles and other piles of trash that clog the autoclean ergo alleys reeking of urine all summer persist. ~~~ awakeasleep Places with the needle problems (like SF) should bite the bullet and provide sharps containers that are maintained by public employees. It's simply insane to ignore the problem posed by the kilotons of used needles laying around everywhere, and they're a public health menace, so the government should take responsibility for the issue. ~~~ _jal We (San Francisco) do have them. Some people don't like them, and there are ongoing fights about that. Generally speaking, "the government" here is trying to "take responsibility" like you ask. It is a certain segment of the population that you should be taking issue with. I'm not singling you out, but a personal pet-peeve of mine is this "us vs. government" thing. You, the reader, are a part of your government. Pretending like government should be like a restaurant and service you is a category error that causes lots of unnecessary problems while not solving real ones. Take responsibility, indeed.) ------ rayiner Pretty much this: > "They have been installed on a sexist proposition: men cannot control > themselves (from the bladder point of view) and so all of society has to > adapt," Gwendoline Coipeault of the feminist group Femmes Solidaires tells > the news service. "The public space must be transformed to cause them > minimum discomfort." They need to bring back flogging for public urination and littering. ~~~ phyzome Yes, because beating people will make them suddenly not need to pee. >_> (Will you also advocate removal of trash cans, and beat people for littering?) ...how about free public toilets, which will solve the actual problem? ~~~ hfdgiutdryg _...how about free public toilets, which will solve the actual problem?_ I get the impression that you misunderstood the parent. Installing _toilets_ would solve the problem without being sexist. The plan of installing urinals does seem rather sexist, doesn't it? I mean, it appears to be saying, "oh well, boys can't hold it" or "women don't (or can't) drink". Aren't those sexist statements? It sure sounds to me like it's reinforcing a weird culture of men not doing any planning and feeling entitled to piss wherever it's convenient for them. ~~~ phyzome Public urination has several causes: 1) People not caring enough not to; 2) People can't find a public restroom and they have to pee; 3) People can't _afford_ to use the available restrooms. The first of those could possibly be handled with threats and punishment; the other two would only be minimally affected by that. Yes, it's sexist to only provide facilities for men—whatever the argument. I don't disagree! But corporal punishment for urination, as rayiner was suggesting, _without_ providing free public toilets... that's just cruel. ~~~ hfdgiutdryg _But corporal punishment for urination, as rayiner was suggesting, without providing free public toilets... that 's just cruel._ I don't think the problem is caused by vast numbers if underprivileged homeless people. It sounds like it's caused by irresponsible, indifferent young men. There doesn't appear to be a widespread problem of women urinating in the streets. It's perfectly valid to conclude that the problem is a lack of punishment and shaming of the unwanted behavior. ~~~ phyzome So, let's say your new "Whip the Pissers Act" gets signed into law. Congratulations, there are now public floggings of irresponsible, indifferent young men, and many of them do change their ways. But there are also public floggings of the homeless. Awesome. Or does your law somehow codify "indifferent and irresponsible" as a condition of the crime? ~~~ rayiner Just like with any other crime, the prosecution or sentencing authority could take account of mitigating circumstances. We don’t get rid of laws against speeding because sometimes people are rushing to the hospital. ~~~ phyzome I don't trust prosecutorial discretion to protect me from overly broad laws. ------ patrickg_zill What changed? (Twitter tells me that it is because of immigration from the 3rd world.) ~~~ qop That is correct. European business culture also contributes in some small part, so given enough growth it would have eventually been a problem anyways, but it was exacerbated by importing tens of thousands of primitive terrorists. ~~~ dang We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines and ignoring our requests to stop. [https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html](https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html)
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Ask HN: With all of these news about Rust, is anybody running it in production? - aledalgrande It seems a cool language and I have a lot of C++ in my prototype that I could, possibly, convert to Rust when I do the rewrite. C++ hasn&#x27;t treated me bad, but I am evaluating the conversion possibility.<p>But is there really any company using the language in live products? ====== yazaddaruvala [https://www.skylight.io](https://www.skylight.io) ~~~ aledalgrande Are you working at Skylight? Can you share your experience? ------ steveklabnik OpenDNS and Skylight are the two big deployments we know of, and there are some smaller ones we've heard rumors of. We don't encourage it until 1.0, of course...
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Why super-smart people may be drawn to a life of crime - randomname2 https://qz.com/923648/why-do-highly-intelligent-people-commit-crimes/ ====== AndrewKemendo _Many prevailing theories of intelligence suggest that people with lower IQs are the ones most likely to break the law, since impulsivity, struggles at school, lack of social bonding, and lack of foresight are all linked to criminality._ ... _the overall amount of crime in this range is still “much, much lower” than among people with very low IQ scores._ In fact what I would expect you find is that these groups of people break _different_ laws, not fewer. The "low IQ" group likely have less capability of breaking say, regulatory laws, by virtue of standing or access. They are more likely to break laws like B&E, drug dealing, petty larceny, etc... that are more harshly and more frequently prosecuted. The laws that high performing, and High IQ people would be breaking, securities, privacy, regulatory etc... might not be prosecuted at all, or at most would lead to civil fines. I think the bottom line is that "high IQ" people will tend to have more capability to break white collar crimes, and will do so with better cover (lawyers, special accounting etc...). ~~~ SomeStupidPoint My anecdata suggests most drug dealers beyond the lowest tier street level dealers are quite intelligent (and become more so as you move up the chain). It's almost like drugs are a business and businesses take intelligence to run. ~~~ api I find it funny that illegal drugs can be a 12-figure business globally and yet people seem to think it's just street level gang bangers doing this. Now who would have a vested interest in people thinking that? :) I'm sure there are organizations that would easily make it to the Fortune 100 if they could be listed as such. They're also smart enough to let disposable thugs break the street level laws. Real drug kingpins _never_ physically handle product. ~~~ paganel > I'm sure there are organizations that would easily make it to the Fortune > 100 if they could be listed as such. Case in point, a report from a couple of years ago claimed that the Calabria- based 'Ndrangheta had a turnover of 53 billion euros, approximately 3.5% if Italy's GDP. This is one of the articles discussing it: [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/26/ndrangheta- maf...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/26/ndrangheta-mafia- mcdonalds-deutsche-bank-study) ------ VA3FXP 2 reasons: (1) Boredom - 'work' is boring and involves tedium. Smart people try to avoid that. (dad joke: That's why it's called work and not play!) (2) False idols - We have been told since we are children, "work hard, and get ahead" or "you need an education to get ahead". We know this is only works to a certain degree. The wealthy stay wealthy because the game is rigged. The laws are tailored so that they can maintain wealth. They don't have to pay the same amount of tax and there are multiple tax-loopholes that allow them to keep their money. They get the public to pay for their expenses and are not forced to share the wealth that they generate. Smart people recognize this and do not want to play that game. Why should I bust my ass to make some millionaire more money? It is obvious that the 'easy' way to make money is to break the law. It's only the poor people who end up getting caught/punished. ~~~ jackcosgrove I generally agree with this, and would emphasize that wealth is not just due to intelligence or academic achievement as some are led to believe. In fact, accruing wealth has more to do with work ethic and simple living practiced over a long time than being a wizard at something or getting credentials. The whiz kids who make it big are a tiny fraction of all smart people. The rest of the smart people have to grind it out over decades to assemble an inheritance which will maybe afford their children the opportunity to generate wealth from rents. A lot of people frankly don't care enough about the lives their children, if any, will lead, and want a wealthy lifestyle fast. As you pointed out, more intelligent people also see how the system works and may resent it more. ------ sulam My IQ tested in this range, and I've broken some laws that aren't entirely common. I managed to get a copy of the master key to my campus and had essentially unfettered access to all the buildings and rooms I wanted, provided I was careful (for a while I shifted my waking time so that I was able to take more advantage). I got into software development as a profession by way of breaking into systems for several years. This was a time when the only way to get the access I needed normally was to be in the major and I wasn't. I've never killed anyone, although I can think of one instance where I considered it and would certainly have gotten away with it. It would have been a big hassle, though, and honestly who wants that on their conscience? At the end of the day it seems to me that I've only done the things other people would have also done if the opportunity arose. I may be somewhat more attuned to those opportunities than the average person, but in many cases they arrived after a cascade of events that weren't specifically aimed at any kind of criminality. At worst I was initially guilty of a high degree of curiousity. The only thing that _really_ resonates for me in this article is low attachment, although I find it hard to really quantify that. I do seem to have fewer friends than most people, but there are probably mathematical reasons for that. I am confident in my ability to make friends, but don't feel like making the effort usually. I have a busy life and can barely keep up with work and family -- having more than a few good friends outside those two groups takes more time than I have. ~~~ 0xfeba > I managed to get a copy of the master key to my campus and had essentially > unfettered access to all the buildings and rooms I wanted Wow, your campus used one lock type and the same master key for all buildings? That's great foresight and coordination across multiple levels of business, construction and maintenance teams. What about older buildings with completely different types of locks? They switched those out as new buildings came up, or are all the buildings new? ~~~ owenversteeg It's possible they were at a college campus that had electronic entry for most buildings - there are a lot of those these days, and some have been operating over the whole campus for 10-15 years. Graduate school + edge of this range and they could be in their mid-40s now. ~~~ sulam I'm a lot older than that, sadly. ;) ------ VLM When a culture and economy are in general decline, lots of equations indoctrinated into kids along the lines of "do ABC, get XYZ" will be broken, and the smart kids will feel ripped off and at the same time have the agency, time preference, and logical thinking skills to achieve XYZ anyway, just perhaps while bending the rules. ~~~ saxonklaxon The most dangerous one being when educated, middle class young men can't find wives or a middle class income. Then _revolutionary_ forces start to brew. ~~~ anonnyj Memes and waifus may be working towards making that particular reaction less potent in developed countries. ~~~ cryoshon on the contrary, the rage surrounding the opposite sex is a core element of the alt right's platform. couching discontent via memes is still expressing it. ------ lordnacho What about the simple idea that being smart means you find more opportunities to commit crimes where you won't get caught? Is that addressed? It seems to square with the fact that high IQ people commit fewer crimes; they'd also find more legit opportunities to enrich themselves. ~~~ pixl97 > It seems to square with the fact that high IQ people commit fewer crimes; Do you see the problem with your statement here. The word crime is a selection bias filter. You automatically assumed that high IQ people committed less crime and immediately discounted they get caught less for crime. These styles of biases are rife in law enforcement communities. For example the idea that (poor|ignorant|minority) groups do more drugs than the average person. Therefore the police search those groups more and when they find drugs it is a justification for their behavior. Meanwhile studies outside of law enforcement show that illegal drug use across all spectrums of wealth, IQ, and race are similar. Also, another similar observation is the saying "You're likely to be murdered by someone you know 70% of the time". The problem with that statement is it only take in account _solved murders_. The other 33% (or way higher in some places) of cases that are unsolved are not counted in that statistic. If we had perfect information on who committed a murder we might say that "50% of the time you are murdered by someone you know". This may have a major influence on how cases are handled. Juries are lead to believe that in the majority of cases it is someone the murderer knew and they become biased against the charge. If it was a 50/50 thing a jury may not be as willing to pin a conviction on circumstantial evidence. That said, it may also be that those 70% of murder cases that convict someone the victim knew are correct and murdering someone you know is a good way to get caught. tl;dr, be careful using law enforcement statistics. Systemic bias in law enforcement procedure can make them invalid. ~~~ lordnacho >> In comparison, intelligent people have traditionally been seen as less likely to commit crimes, and this view of brainpower as a protective factor against offending has been bolstered by many studies over the decades. No idea whether those studies have accounted for your comments, but you'd think if they're academic studies they would have? ------ Pitarou What utter garbage. Not to put too fine a point on it, this isn’t a survey of the high IQ population; it’s a survey of high IQ losers. The sample is drawn from a high IQ club. You won’t find many Nobel laureates, brilliant engineers and so on in these clubs. Why would they bother? They have nothing to prove and better things to do with their time. Broadly speaking, people join a high IQ club because their performance on standardized tests is the ONLY thing they have going for them. And by the way, the average IQ of the sample was 149, so many must have been below that score. Smart, but not exactly Hannibal Lecter. ~~~ tajen > Smart, but not exactly Hannibal Lecter H.L. is a fictional character with IQ 200, and Einstein is only 160, so who would qualify as an "Hannibal Lecter" for you? If the average is 149 and the group is spread in a gaussian curve with exactly one Einstein, then the dumb guy of the group will be 138. Which is under 1% of the population, especially in US where the average IQ is 98. So the first 3 paragraphs of your criticism are well-reasoned, but I wonder why you feel the need to down-play the smartness of that group with your first and last sentence. ~~~ Pitarou > Einstein is only 160 I don't believe Einstein is ever recorded as having taken an IQ test. In any case, IQ scores quickly lose their meaning when you get to 160 or above. Try taking a physical fitness test designed to make fine distinctions across the general population, and extending it to Olympic athletes. The athletes would just laugh at you. > Which is under 1% of the population, especially in US where the average IQ > is 98. ... I wonder why you feel the need to down-play the smartness of that > group with your first and last sentence. It's the use of words like "super-smart" that bugs me. A US male in the top height percentile would be about 6'4". Tall, but no André the giant. ------ brilliantcode Here's what I disagree about the article. That white collar crimes are committed by high IQ people. It's the socioeconomic lineage that gives you to access to such position where it's very easy to commit crimes that the law is not designed to punish. Much of the written laws are around hauling violent criminals away from civilization. While high IQ could empower someone to feel that they can get away with white collar crime, such disposition are innately built from their lack of attachment that arises from being isolated from poverty and all the bullshit that comes with non-upper class life. You go to an elite school, meet other friends who think rules for tools, they go onto work at powerful positions, it's all too simple to collude and create secret societies to further their collective monetary ambitions. It really seems to be true what they say. There are rules for those who made it (because they create the rules) and conditions and terms for those who didn't make it (you follow the rules). It almost seems to me like the whole system is a sham. Imagine if Ghengis Khan discovered the best way to conquer people and other nations is not by force but by credits and materialism. In a chaotic and lawless reality, law is created by individuals who impose their power on rest of society. We are so entrenched that we are "right" and rest of the world is "wrong", we've become a slave because we are told we are free to make our own decisions-limited by powerful men who play God. ------ adrusi The study looked at members of high-iq societies and alumni from elite universities primarily, which is going to select for a disproportionate amount of people who consider their high-iq important to their personalities. Intuitively, I'd expect high IQ to be correlated with narcissism, and in this group even more so. Narcissists are going to be more likely to commit crimes. ~~~ JoeAltmaier A little searching and I don't see any evidence that IQ is related to narcissism. That seems intuitive to me - narcissism is unrelated to the real world, they don't have to be actually better than anybody to _believe_ they are. ~~~ DFHippie The claim is that membership in high IQ societies, not high IQ itself, correlates with narcissism. ------ YCode I suspect the two pragmatic points to take away are: > Many of Oleson’s respondents discussed the alienating effects of their high > intelligence; social maladjustment could be a possible explanation for their > elevated crime rates. > Another issue is that the bulk of his gifted cohort was recruited from a > private high-IQ society, and people who join such clubs might not represent > highly intelligent people in general. To that last point, this has the same vague smell of the kind of study whose participants were from the college it was sponsored by and so as he says it should be taken as preliminary and I'd add with a large grain of salt. ~~~ FabHK In particular, I'd venture that well adjusted high-IQ people are less likely to join a high-IQ society than more alienated people. ------ eyeownyde Can you help me reconcile these two quotes? _But Schwartz stresses that the overall amount of crime in this range is still “much, much lower” than among people with very low IQ scores._ _“Not only does it mean that elites are just as likely to lie, cheat, and steal as anyone else,” Oleson writes_ Do these people simply disagree, or am I misinterpreting one of them? ------ foldr I think there's a presupposition here that's worth challenging. Smart people aren't morally superior to dumb people; they're just smarter. They're drawn to crime for the usual reasons: greed, selfishness, lust, etc. etc. ------ booleandilemma _But Schwartz stresses that the overall amount of crime in this range is still “much, much lower” than among people with very low IQ scores._ The smartest criminals don't get caught.
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Presentation of a project: Muonium, an encrypted cloud - hitoshi54 https://github.com/muonium/core/wiki/Presentation ====== cmurf What French crypo laws prevent them from deploying in France? And then why can C14 do this? "Your data are encrypted using AES-256, replicated many times and stored in our 25 meter deep underground fallout shelter located in Paris, France." [https://www.online.net/en/c14](https://www.online.net/en/c14) ~~~ hitoshi54 This project use the server side encryption, therefore there is a moment where the file isn't encrypted on the server. Contrary to this project, Muonium use the client-side encryption. Also, French laws do not authorize this kind of initiative, maybe the passphrase is just hashed in MD5 xD And privacy haven't to cost. ------ brudgers Muonium Home: [https://muonium.ch/photon/](https://muonium.ch/photon/) ~~~ hitoshi54 Yea x) ------ bni What is GAYFAM? ~~~ hitoshi54 Google Amazon Yahoo Facebook Apple Krosoft x) It represents the big centralization of these companies, which love to rape your privacy x)
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Ask HN: How to address horrible practices at new job? - remyp I recently (~2 weeks ago) started a new position that ostensibly was &quot;running the development team (3 devs)&quot; for a SaaS firm. I am working remotely, so it has been difficult to get the CEO to keep meetings or spend the necessary time (&gt; 5 minutes) to discuss much of anything.<p>I have been getting up to speed on the codebase -- which is 10 years old -- and in doing so I have noticed the following problems so far:<p>- No documentation, a few in-code comments only<p>- No automated testing whatsoever<p>- No monitoring (a critical API went down today and we found out because our customers told us)<p>- No development server<p>- Development environment not standardized or even documented (3 hour screen share with the only guy who knows how to get set up)<p>- Code is committed directly to master, not on branches<p>- Developers manually push code directly from local environment to production through undocumented process<p>I brought up these problems and the solutions to them and was brushed off as &quot;slowing down our process&quot; and &quot;solving problems we don&#x27;t have&quot;. My current dictated priority is a coding up a feature addition that will take me a month.<p>This is a small firm, so there is only one decision maker. Do I try to get him to see the light, ignore it and do as I&#x27;m told until he trusts me, or start calling the other firms I turned down to take this (extremely well-paying) position? ====== NathanKP There is a pretty simple order of operation you can target if you want: 1) As you onboard and get your environment setup simultaneously write a Vagrantfile so that you can provision a local dev environment in an automatic fashion. 2) Set up an automatic monitoring solution. This shouldn't take longer than 30 mins but will be all it takes to provide proof that lack of tests and deploys directly from local to prod are endangering the stability. It will also allow you to pinpoint outages coinciding with deploys. 3) Write an extremely basic test script. Even if it is nothing but a bash script that uses curl commands to do auth, the top 5 transactions, and that's it it will still be better than nothing. You don't need 100% coverage for tests to be useful. Most of the time there are a key ten to twenty tests that can cover 80% of the core stuff that you don't want to break. 4) Any time you figure out how an endpoint works, or have to ask one of the other engineers something take 5 minutes to commit this meatspace knowledge you just learned to a bitspace markdown file somewhere in your repo. The nice thing is that these are all things that take minimal time, but have a huge multiplicative effect on your productivity and that of others. You should be able write better code faster than your coworkers and the results will speak for themselves. ~~~ tacone Nice advice. They won't allow you to change everything bottom up, but they probably will not care about small adjustments. Little by little, so much can be gained. ~~~ remyp Agreed. This is the advice I will plan to follow -- its simplicity is Gandhi- esque. Thank you, Nathan! ------ davismwfl Its a small firm and these are not uncommon issues. The size of the firm means that likely the focus of the CEO is to bring in the next client, not worry about whether there is a development server setup properly. A lot of the times, these are the exact reason he has hired someone that knows their job. He isn't going to want to know about all the little details, he just wants everything to work so he can sell. And the feature he has you working on may be critical, as he sees it, to land a client or give existing clients something new. My 2 cents. Don't judge everything just from 2 weeks. All of your issues are valid, but give yourself a little time to acclimate to the team. Gain their respect, gain the CEO's respect by showing you can do the job and take care of details. Take some of these issues you highlighted and fix them. Add automated testing for your new feature, add documentation for it, setup a quick monitor to alert when the API goes down and learn the development setup so you can fix that process. In fairness most of these issues show a lack of development leadership so be the leader. Don't try to convince the CEO why you need to do these things, just do them and the results will speak for themselves. Do yourself a favor first, get the respect of the team by playing along and getting the feature done and do it with proper process and documentation. That'll go a long way. In the end, you may hate it and need to leave, but give yourself a chance to see if it is systemic issues, or just a lack of development leadership. I have seen many times when a small business CEO tries to control development because he doesn't have anyone strong to do it. Usually this is because he doesn't trust the results from the team totally because of things like an API going down and it takes a customer call to fix it. Why else would he have hired an "outsider" to run the team? He doesn't know what he doesn't know. Show him through doing and see if it changes, if not, move on. ------ PhilWright It sounds like you have not been in the position of leading a development team before. As a result you are suffering from the same mistake that I made myself when moving into that situation. Stop asking your boss for permission to do every technical task. As a developer this was appropriate but when running a team it is not. It sounds like your boss is viewing the development team as he should, it's a sausage factory. He cares about the output but has no real interest of what happens to produce it. As he will not let you dedicate fixed time now to make changes you need instead to gradually introduce them. Set a goal of getting all the process changes you want made over the space of the next year. For example, add some automatic monitoring. Don't ask for permission, just go ahead and go it because it is a small task. Once it is working well you then get the three other developers to start using it. Once everyone sees the benefit over the next few weeks you can then make another change. ------ Nadya I assume their code base has been working for 10 years? Not every owner cares about scaling or quality, sometimes speed is their selling factor. That's why we have McDonalds _and_ 5-star restaurants instead of only 5-star restaurants. You can try to educate him on why documentation would help speed up development, would make on-boarding new devs easier/faster (increasing product quality/stability and possibly decreasing churn for when your critical API fails on a customer...) But his business is clearly _working_ for him. So why change things? Why spend a lot of time (and time=money) on fixing problems that haven't ailed his successful business for 10 years? ~~~ Einstalbert Sometimes these businesses work because of people like the OP, who shoulders the burden of a bad decision maker for years. We're celebrating one of our big company milestones and we're no different. The decision makers think we're here but by the grace of God sometimes. I say we're here but by the grace of Todd and his addiction to energy drinks. ~~~ remyp This is definitely the case currently. There is one developer that has been around for several years and he has clearly been bearing the brunt of the work. This firm's bus factor is equal to 1. ------ brudgers Your question imples a large amout of technical effort and presents zero business value creation in return. After two weeks on the job, you're arguing with your customer over their prioritization of the backlog. My advice: learn why the current methods are working for the current team in their pursuit of creating customer value and why the YAGNI of reality doesn't conform to Uncle Bob's best practices. Note that I am not saying this is your dream job. but it is a chance to gain experience beyond theory and more nuanced judgement such as only experience can provide. Good luck. ~~~ degenerate This is the best advice in this thread. ------ gt565k Run, and run fast. Since you've only been there for 2 weeks, you've yet to experience the ridiculous amount of production issues that will arise due to the lack of a solid software development process. Wait long enough, and when the only guy that knows the system inside-out leaves, you'll be left with the fire extinguisher trying to put out fires every other day. Nothing will change. I can tell you from experience. If the place has been running like that for 10 years, there's a reason for it, poor management. I'm sure a lot more people before you have brought this up. Run, and run fast! ------ hga Sounds like a case of responsibility without authority. You signed on for the job of "running the development team" but they've demonstrated they're not going to give you any authority to actually do that. And your CEO has no respect for you if he can't find more than 5 minutes (total or at a time) to bring you on board. I'd leave ASAP, this is going to be nothing but pain, and very high stress; almost certainly not worth the money. ------ segmondy Demonstrate competency first. Solve the main problem you were brought there for. Solve it right, solve it fast, employ all the ideas you wish to see, documentation, testing, monitoring, dev server, peer reviews. Earn their trust and respect, you are 2 weeks in. Focus on the job at hand, and in 2-3 months, you will know who can be your allies and you can then start figuring out how to get these changes out. ------ gus_massa Assuming the stress/money ratio is good enough, you can try this "Getting Things Done When You're Only a Grunt" [http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000332.html](http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000332.html) I think that monitoring is an easy target because it's isolated and it will not "slow down" the rest of the team. The next step could be automated texting for your new code and later for all new code (and much later, for old code). (Documenting the development environment is still in my todo list :) ) ------ JSeymourATL > it has been difficult to get the CEO to keep meetings or spend the necessary > time (> 5 minutes)... It turns out a lot Small Company CEOs have limited bandwidth. Learn his communication style and how to manage him. Can he take a 7am call on his commute into the office? Relative to your performance imperatives, help him understand how these things move his agenda forward. Otherwise, his problems aren't going away. ------ SideburnsOfDoom I would seriously look at the terms of your employment contract. there is usually a "probation period" of a few months during which time you can be let go at very short notice because it's not working out for whatever reason. It's not always kept in mind that "it's not working out" cuts both ways. If you aren't happy there (and I really would not be) then it's time to decide - as they say "if you can't change your company, then change your company." Some of these practices, YMMV. For instance, "Code is committed directly to master, not on branches" gets a big shrug from me. What does it matter so long as only 1 person is working on a repo at a time, or if changes are isolated and merges are frequent? Others, like no testing, no build automation, no live monitoring, give me the creeps. There is actual harm from them "an api went down and we didn't know" so there is leverage there to pitch you can make for mitigation of recurrences of actual problems and for proven industry practices. But it looks like a lot of uphill struggle. ------ jbdigriz This is generally a problem in various forms at firms of all sizes, so running away is simply conceding that you lack the desire to develop some of the most important skills required when moving into an elevated lead or management position: the ability to compel people without forcing them and the ability to compromise. Looking at your list of gripes, some are clearly critical issues (ie. Automated production monitoring and alerting of customer facing system) while some are obviously nitpicking (ie. Comments and documentation? Lol). Drop the "nice to have" stuff and instead pursue the "need to have" items. No CEO worth his salt is going to accept the liability of customer loss or lawsuit simply because no one thought to build some simple monitoring jobs. At the same time, I cringe at the prospect of a developer even mentioning comments or version control minutae to an executive level - definitely NOT a point to be explicitly bright up beyond some quantified metric on a regular report. It's distracting noise for him and definitely your problem to solve. Given that you mentioned being very well compensated, well that's a pretty good hint that the task ahead of you will be challenging and often not in the way you expect, as evidenced by this case. On that note, be sure all these things are actually important for that specific business. I once worked on an in-house, Windows based C++ trading system with over 600k lines of code and there wasn't a single unit test to speak of. Granted, it was developed following SDLC and included 4 levels of testing (dev integration, ba functional, user demo and qa) but the system was running continuously for almost a decade and reaped profits in the high 9 figures. Some shops produce high quality software with deeply knowledgeable long tenured senior technologists and don't necessarily require such testing frameworks as they perform that task themselves and often far better than some pre-canned block of code ever will. I've also been in shops where testing and coverage minimums were required and tracked precisely in real time, preventing code release if standards were not met. The end result were loads of trivially passing, nonsense tests and a culture where developers often felt compelled to create even those for only the lowest hanging fruit to meet the minimum requirements for a deadline or risk a monetary impact to their bottom line. So don't just rotely follow (let alone impose) paradigms without realizing that quantifying their value is hard in many scenarios, not to mention could be construed as stepping on toes... As some have mentioned, the best managers are those who are able to gain the trust of their teams and this is something that takes time and strings of successes along the way. At the same time, lead by example and instead of imposing your will, let the results speak for themselves. Add tests in some minor modules and if they fail, use the opportunity to demonstrate how they saved potential headaches or worse. I've found that people invariably flock to those who demonstrate not only ability and intelligence, but also civility and geniality. I can't even begin to explain how small humorous exchanges have vastly strengthened my network. I've had to lead teams of juniors and offshore folks without any official management title and its forced me to adapt and develop various methods of building repoir and ultimately compelling people to get things done, with few sour grapes to speak of and many successes (and comp increases) along the way. Regardless of all of the above, you're still getting paid, right? By your admission, paid WELL. So why would you leave that because you believe you're not being allowed to do your job (most of which actually requires more work and maintenance)... 2 weeks in?!? Perhaps after 6-12 months, you come to the conclusion that the culture is just not for you. So, leave then - I assure you there will be just as many, if not more opportunities then, except at that point you can be confident you've shed any insecurities and gave it your best shot and have some quirky behavior tolerance to boot. That sort of techno "battle scar" is quite visible as a sort of confidence backed by wisdom and experience and makes prospective employers wet their pants. Or maybe you just kick ass and prove you're worth every penny - smiling all the way to the bank. Either alternative is far more appealing than tucking your tail and running. Food for thought ------ deeteecee why do other people say this is "a general problem" in any way? sounds extremely fishy and rare to me.. i guess just do what you're told if that salary is such a big bonus for you but ask him if it's okay to slowly tackle those problems you considered after you get the main task at hand finished. ------ an0nymoose1 Is your name Nate? ~~~ remyp Nope.
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Show HN: Scratchwork – a tool for drawing technical equations and diagrams - jstogin http://scratchworktool.com ====== jstogin Hi everyone, I’m John from Scratchwork (scratchworktool.com). This is a project I started as a math PhD student, because I was frustrated by how difficult it is to share ideas (mainly equations and diagrams) with other people on a computer. I designed Scratchwork to make it easy to draw complicated ideas by hand. For example, you can use your webcam to scan your drawings from a sheet of paper and they will be extracted and added as digital objects on the virtual board. These drawings can then individually be selected and moved around, deleted, etc. We’re also working on tablet apps, starting with the Samsung Galaxy Tab A with S pen, a relatively affordable tablet with an inductive stylus. As with basically all whiteboard apps, multiple people can work at the same time and see each others’ changes in real time. There is support for embedded video calls, which is admittedly somewhat buggy at the moment. As the demo video illustrates, we have plans to support recognition of math expressions, allowing you to calculate by simply selecting some of your drawings and then applying operations such as simplify, differentiate, integrate, etc. The current implementation is not available publicly yet, and this is not our highest priority at the moment, but the eventual goal is to make it very easy to do calculations without needing to type equations. This project is still a work in progress, but I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions. Definitely sign up for our beta program. Also, please be aware that we are not permanently storing data yet, and many features are only partially implemented. Finally, we’re looking to expand our development team, so if you like this project and are looking for something new to work on, contact us at contact@scratchworktool.com. Enjoy! ~~~ ai_ia Hi John, Any plans of making embeddable systems for using on website? I am building an educational website that would benefit from this tool. ~~~ jstogin This is definitely something we hope to do. Since we're still getting started, it's a matter of prioritization (not if, but when). We would love to hear more from you about your needs and that could help us expedite the feature. Could you please email us at contact@scratchworktool.com? Along similar lines, we've been trying to plan an API for developers to use with our product. I'd love to hear if anyone has ideas. ------ justAQuestion3 Building a drawing tool in the browser is complex, when one has to begin to calculate various stuff(do bounding boxes intersect, perform a affine transformation). Could you share some insights? Do you use an external math library like math.js(which seems to be very hewavyweight)? Do you have a model with objects and other objects/functions that draw to the canvas, or draw the objects themself on the canvas? When the user moves a object, do you update the model immediately, or only when the move has ended? ~~~ jstogin I definitely agree that this kind of tool is complex to build. We have our own model, which I have developed over a few earlier iterations of what we have available now, and we use it to draw all the objects to the canvas. Generally speaking, there are two types of changes that we deal with. There are the changes that are very important, which don't happen very often, and then there are changes that are not very important but happen quickly. For example, when a user drags an object, each movement of the mouse is of the second type, while the final release is of the first type. We make a distinction between what a user sees and the underlying "document" that a user is editing. When a user moves an object, we don't update the document until the user releases the move. However, we do send data to other devices so that anyone who is watching still sees the object being moved. ------ osrec Looks great! I'm interested to know what tech stack you used for the video calling feature? ~~~ jstogin The video calling feature is based on WebRTC. (We also use WebRTC for streaming the data--so you can see other people draw in real-time, with Socket.IO as a fallback.) ------ blt I clicked "Request Invitation" and nothing happened... ~~~ jstogin Thanks for letting us know! At first glance, it seems to be an issue related to Heroku. We just tested the request invitation feature and it is working again.
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Xero ditches HTML5 in favor of native iOS and Android apps - mattquiros http://thenextweb.com/dd/2013/03/18/accounting-software-startup-xero-ditches-html5-in-favor-of-native-ios-and-android-apps/ ====== jarjoura That's been the case all along that HTML5/CSS/Javascript is much harder to develop for when targeting mobile devices. You have to build for an array of screen sizes and your assets need to work in the dizzying amount of screen DPIs. However, the freedom you gain in designing a common UI across all mobile devices you will now lose with having to build discreet applications for each platform. iOS applications have a really high bar for slick UI and subtle animations. (If they are going to be featured and successful.) Android applications also have a really high bar for system wide integration. Plus, UI that works on iOS will most likely need to be rethought on Android, though not always. Then for Windows 8/WP8 devices you're in for a world of hurt. The UI and strict guidelines are so different from anything common in iOS & Android that to include them will require what could likely result in an entire different design team. ~~~ kayoone Creating a common UI across all mobile platforms is a big challenge as well and you mention the main points in your post. Your "one-size-fits-all" UI will look a little alien on every platform because its made to fit all of them at the same time. Personally id use Xamarins excellent C# tools to build the core of the app multiplatform and then utilize the native APIs to build platform specific UIs. I dont think this approach is alot more/less work than making your webApp work with all platforms and resolutions, but in the end you have a native experience on all of them. ~~~ pjmlp Yes, I did bash Miguel's work a few times, given his inclination to bring Microsoft based technologies to the UNIX world. But I have to acknowledge that he has made a very good work with Mono and although I prefer to use C++ on my hobby Android projects, Xamarin's tools are a great approach for many developers. ~~~ kayoone Agree, while MONO is controversial i believe that in the end its a good thing. I believe its more Microsofts fault for not making the C# platform open, they would have probably squashed Java by now. That aside, mostly i care about the best tool for the job and in this case thats my choice. ------ mruniverse Not just for mobile, but building a UI in html has always struck me as a hack. Mainly because the built-in components (dialogs, menus, buttons, etc) are lacking. And some components (tabs, overlays, etc) are missing altogether. I think most front-end devs are so used to it now, that it doesn't seem bizarre to build tabs with a list element, float the items to the left, add a clearing div below the list, etc. ~~~ rimantas It _is_ a hack. There is a reason why we have "T" and not "I" in HTML. ------ marknutter I was not surprised to see the word "Sencha" in this article, but I _was_ surprised to read it took them 12 months to develop the app. Where I work we actually replaced two in-development native apps with one cross platform Sencha app which only took about 4 months to develop. This was with only two developers, and like with most frameworks the first 80% went extremely fast but we ended up fighting against it for the last 20%. The performance, especially on older Androids, was unacceptable. But instead of doing another complete 180 we decided to instead go with a hybrid approach like LinkedIn did - use native when performance is key, and HTML5 everywhere else. We just re-launched the app using all custom html5/js/css and native ui elements and animations where necessary and it was a complete success. Not only does the app perform really well on even very old Android phones, but it absolutely flies on newer devices. The best part, especially when compared to using Sencha, is that all of our code which was written in angular.js will be used on the web app and native desktop apps. We are very close to having the vast majority of our code being shared between every major platform our users may use. I love when articles like these get popular because it scares people away from using HTML5 in any way and gives us a clear advantage. Keep fueling the FUD, we'll keep our productivity advantage :) ~~~ nullspace Would be great if you can share more details how you went about the hybrid html5 - native app route. For instance, did you scrap all the work you put in with Sencha and start from scratch? And how did you go about combining native elements and html/js/css, and how did angular js tie into this? ~~~ marknutter Yes, we did scrap the Sencha app and start from scratch. Because Sencha Touch is really only designed for mobile devices with touch interfaces, you can't really re-use the code for web apps, so there wasn't much to salvage. We also were not very comfortable with Ext to begin with. For JS frameworks we decided between Backbone.js, Angular.js, and Can.js (because we had previously used JavascriptMVC on our web app). We fell in love with angular.js and went that route. The main reason to use native UI components is to allow smooth scrolling on older Android devices which don't support fixed elements like top and bottom nav bars very well. Both on iOS and Android the top navigation bar and bottom tab bars are done in native code as well as the Facebook-style drawers that reveal other sections of the app. In all, we use three Phonegap enabled webViews and three major native UI components (top bar, bottom bar, and a custom "quick add" control). We pass messages back and forth from the native app to the javascript app via phonegap's native bridge, like when a user taps a native button or the javascript app changes tabs and needs to inform the native app. We used grunt.js to help manage all our development and build workflows. It concatenates our files for us, creates separate builds for iOS and Android (and other platforms now, too), compiles and minifies our CSS, etc. It also runs our test suite which is another big advantage to using HTML5/JS instead of native. Most of our code has test coverage and it's very easy to automate using grunt.js and testacular.js. If you're interested you can check out the app on the Play and iTunes App stores; it's called Kona Mobile (it's the mobile app for our main offering, <http://kona.com>). ~~~ nullspace Thanks for the explanation! Makes a lot of sense. ------ DigitalSea Of course web apps aren't ever going to be as fast as a native application (especially on iOS because Apple deliberately hampers performance for web apps) but they're by no means a hopeless cause. A HTML5 web app might take a little while longer to develop, but it'll work out cheaper than building an iOS application. LinkedIn to this day remain the perfect example of how to build a straight-up HTML5 mobile app that performs beautifully. ~~~ fjarlq How is Apple deliberately hampering performance for web apps? What evidence is there for this? ~~~ monsterix There is some evidence for sure. For example, iPad Safari doesn't allow full- screen mode, nor implements fullscreen API as per standards. Another browser on the iPad (Dolphin) supports it interestingly. Support for ordinary CSS properties like z-index, position:fixed and iframe is pathetic. Some of the things that I can recall now. UIWebView takes it to another level of pain altogether. ------ Sujan In the comments of the article a commenter points out that they worked mor than 24 months in total on the HTML5 web app version and says "That was one expensive mistake". I would say, that it was actually a great strategy. When they started, the HTML version was more than enough. They saved lots of time, effort and resources during these two years while building their product. Now their mobile user base is big enough to justify dedicated teams for all platforms - and that's great for them. But it doesn't say anything about HTML5 as a viable platform for building apps. If you are a team of 3, where 0 have any mobile development experience, but years of web experience, it surely is the way to go. And often, it will even stay this years later. ~~~ Sujan Actually, isn't there a name for technologies you use as a stepping stone for some time? ------ jacques_chester Storm, meet teacup. Also, "accounting startup"? Xero is a publicly listed company. ~~~ petercooper The HN-centric redefinition of "startup" relying mostly on rate of growth is taking hold it seems. ------ leeoniya what web-apps offer me, as a user, is peace of mind in terms of security - something i dont get with native apps that ask for broad, overreaching permissions. there are many many native apps i refuse to install simply based on those grounds. if facebook ditches their mobile site, that will be the end of facebook on my phone for me. ~~~ mattquiros I don't make a habit of persuading people to change their preferences, but a couple of questions: 1\. Don't web apps need cookies enabled in your browser, so technically they can still track your browsing history and behavior, at least to some extent? How is that different from your privacy concerns with native apps? 2\. How do you think about installing applications on your desktop/laptop computer then, since doing so grants them certain permissions, and not doing so prevents you from doing certain things? 3\. More of a comment, than a question. I don't think Facebook will ever ditch their mobile site. Mobile sites are a replacement of the "desktop" site instead of the native app. It's just accessing Facebook via the browser but with a mobile-friendly UI. ~~~ leeoniya 1\. there's a vast difference between a third party simply tracking which sites i visit vs an app having access to my GPS location, address books, call history, etc.., whenever it pleases. with a web browser, i can "share my location" as i desire...if i want to find nearby restaurants on yelp's mobile site, i'll share my location once. with an app you just say "yes, you have permission to read my gps", you have no control of when or how often it does this. 2\. on my desktop, there's no guarantee that any specific info will be in the same place. for example i use thunderbird portable in an encrypted container for my email and contacts. on a phone, your contacts are pretty much in the same place and every app knows how to get to them, there's much less variance. 3\. you may have a point, but without a good mobile site, they can coerce people to use the app by providing a shitty experience in the browser, cause an app can get to a lot more of your juicy data which they crave. ------ rayiner Web apps suck. It's like going back to 1980's lowest common denominator level of functionality.[1] I'd rather see something like PNACL offer easy distribution of native apps over the internet, but we'll probably just see more web apps (<http://www.dreamsongs.com/Files/worse-is-worse.pdf>). [1] Honestly, that's an insult to the 1980's. Word Perfect 5.x was pretty damn functional, lack of GUI aside. ~~~ lukifer Saying "$X sucks" sucks. Even when it's accurate, it conveys little to no actual information. ------ michaelwww From their blog <http://blog.xero.com/2013/03/making-mobile-work/> _Even with frameworks as amazing as Sencha Touch, we’ve found the ability to iterate as fast as we would like has become harder as our application has become more complex. The choice to go with HTML5 was very much a choice based on us – how do we use the skills we already have to build a mobile application? Unfortunately as the application grew we needed to hire to fill out the team, and we were never able to hire fast enough to fill those roles. Ironically those skills were equally as critical for the 'desktop' version of Xero – we were cannibalizing our own team and slowing everything down._ With Xero, it seems more like a case of not being able to find great HTML5 developers and less an indictment of HTML5. This is good news for me. ------ SG- I see this a lot where the person/people making the decisions decide they can make a product that's almost as good but for less resources/money because they will be able to use a lot of existing 'web' code and be able to use existing web devs or simply hire another one. The reality like this article suggests is it will take a long time to get something that works almost right but isn't right, even if somehow the performance doesn't matter going forward with much faster devices. It gets pretty hard to try and get a webapp to work with native parts of the OS and features that your users might want or expect.
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Building a web application from the ground up - truetaurus What should be considered when building a website from the ground up? What process could be followed? What resources should be considered? ====== bsdpython It starts with what you know. How much programming experience do you have? What front and back end technologies do you know? What operating systems? Have you built a dedicated server? Have you worked with cloud services? Is this just for you as a side project are is it your work? ~~~ truetaurus In terms of knowledge and experience I have that. I work doing a lot of php, js, css/html and a little java. Its more for my knowledge, and of course could turn into a side project. I am just looking for tips and i guess frameworks and architectures that could help me learn how a website is developed from the ground up
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Ask HN: Why do public hotspots deliberately circumvent Apple’s portal detection? - ghodss When I join a hotspot using my MacBook Pro, sometimes a dedicated web browser window comes up and navigates me to a portal where I can agree to terms or purchase wifi. Other times, that window doesn’t come up at all and any website I attempt to navigate to just stalls on “Connecting…”. Now, me being a technical person, I am aware that if I try to go to an HTTPS page (which is just about any page I’d normally go to now), the hotspot is not able to redirect me to a portal. So I deliberately try to find an HTTP page I can go to, then I instantly properly get redirected to a portal and can proceed to get on the internet.<p>I am perplexed by this, specifically: 1. How do non-technical people successfully get on the internet with these hotspots? If I didn’t know to go to an HTTP page, I feel like I would be stuck on hanging page requests forever. 2. One thing I’ve noticed is that macOS seems to use http:&#x2F;&#x2F;captive.apple.com to test for portals. For many hotspots, it seems like this is correctly captured and redirected to the portal. But for the hotspots I mentioned above, this URL simply returns “Success” with no portal redirect headers. Is this deliberate? Why would a hotspot try to circumvent this detection from Apple? 3. Am I misunderstanding this whole situation or have some aspect in my environment that makes this a very different experience for me than for others? ====== telesilla I've wondered this many times and assume that non-technical people just don't get online and remain frustrated. I keep an http site in my bookmarks for this purpose.
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Carbon Transistors to Increase Speed, RAM of Smartphones and Tablets - RaduTyrsina http://techpp.com/2012/07/20/carbon-transistors-increase-speed-ram-smartphones-tablets/ ====== rajupp Low voltage consumption is the key
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The Difference Between Business Development and Sales - kml http://iamvictorio.us/post/26979018144/difference-between-business-development-and-sales?f4093320 ====== tryitnow Someone should send this article to every young person starting out in business, whether they're and entrepreneur or not. Biz Dev is usually considered more prestigious because partnerships of one sort or another can move a lot of volume quickly or can create new opportunities that radically change fortunes. It also requires understanding business models, strategies, etc. Sales might require an understanding of the user or might not. The company I work for does enterprise software and I seriously doubt our sales people know a whole lot about the user experience. They do know how to schmooze and most importantly how to be persistent and by persistent I mean continually bothering people. I have found discussions with BD professionals to be interesting and occasionally enlightening. Most conversations with salespeople annoy me - whether those conversations are a sales job or just sitting around chatting. ~~~ JVerstry This original post is not fair in its definition and presentation of business development. So let's set the record straight. Managing companies does requires taking business decisions 'you have to make' with other businesses. It is not an option. Saying 'all these benefits are nice to have but are not core to the existing strategy of the the target partner' is misleading. Proper BD is precisely the opposite, your have to take into account the core strategy of the target businesses to make it a success. Saying 'Consequently, BD may be ultimately harder to succeed in since it requires a lot of faith and time' -> BD is not preaching or based on beliefs, it relies on sound financial and strategic analysis. BD serves a very different purpose than sales (long term vs short term revenues) and both are equally important beyond the start-up stage. ------ fab1an I agree with the article but would add that a lot of times sales people are hired under the "business development" umbrella simply to not call them "sales" people - most businesses don't want to be contacted by _a sales person_ (except when you do know that you absolutely _must_ acquire a certain widget). At the same time, this isn't true for most startups: most startups by definition (given they do something new) don't sell existing must-have products but current nice-to-haves with a potential to become future must- haves if their transformative vision pans out. ~~~ iamvictorious yeah, that's absolutely true. Some people prefer to get the title of business development so they feel like they are doing something higher level and justify their education/credentials. I've noticed also some startups don't call people sales people because then at conferences people aren't turned off by meeting a sales person. I'm not opposed to these tactics but just wanted to point out the functional/true differences. Most startups are actually selling a better/different version of what does exist. Very few startups are truly category defining so as a result they are mostly doing sales. Business development as a result for most startups is really for getting distribution versus getting customers. ------ dfriedmn Education is also a much weaker predictor of sales abilities than of biz dev potential. Sales seems like a more directly learnable skill. Sales also tends to leave highly-educated people with a negative taste (that's absent from biz dev), even though good salespeople can have as big an impact on the bottom line.
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Show HN: Bit-bundler – simplify the JavaScript bundling experience - manchagnu https://bundler.bitjs.io/ ====== manchagnu So I built bit-bundler as an experiment to achieve configuration ergonomics that I like. Specially around bundle splitting and pattern matching. I also wanted to try parallel file processing, which improved performance dramatically in a pretty large project I am working on. Perhaps others will find this useful.
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Search HN for “port Facebook data” – no results – lets change this - devinrhode2 ====== ihuman What do you mean by "porting" facebook data? Moving it to another platform? There is already a way to download all the data facebook has on you. ------ c22 Saw this just the other day [0], looks pretty neat. [0] [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16682940](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16682940)
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The Secret Life of Photons: Simulating 2D Light Transport - Tunabrain https://benedikt-bitterli.me/tantalum/ ====== ykl This is way cool, and the writeup is excellent as well. Very much worth the read :) ------ amadeusw Good job! The UX is top notch and the results are inspiring
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Software companies demand own copyright law - Mithrandir http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/14/software-companies-demand-own-copyright-law/ ====== bediger This smells fishy. The Digital Economy Act isn't harsh enough, so something even more draconian must be done! Think of the children! Given that the Digital Economy Act passed in that weird way that didn't get any discussion, and that a variety of other governments have gotten "help" ([http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/three- st...](http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/three-strikes- typhoid-mary-identified/index.htm#)) from the USTR about 3-Strikes laws and etc, why do we belive this is actually "software companies", and not the RIAA and MPAA lobbying via US State Department?
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BART Workers Give 72-Hour Strike Notice - AjayTripathy http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2013/06/28/bart-workers-give-72-hour-strike-notice/ ====== bifrost If you read the article you'll note that "rider safety" is not about adding more and better trained cops to BART, its about lights... > BART spokesman Rick Rice said the system can’t remain sustainable if > employees continue to contribute nothing to pensions and pay a flat $92 per > month for health care, regardless of the number of dependents. Its ridiculous that this has been allowed to persist, pensions need to go the way of the dinosaurs, people need to get their own retirement plans sorted out.
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The Scramble for Access to Libya’s Oil Wealth Begins - antr http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/business/global/the-scramble-for-access-to-libyas-oil-wealth-begins.html ====== tzs The title is a bit misleading as many will take from it that there wasn't access before. A better subject would have called it re-access, not access, as it is the scramble to reestablish access that was readily available before the revolution. ------ ChuckMcM Not reddit ~~~ redthrowaway Flag it if you think it doesn't belong here; these comments don't add anything. "Please don't submit comments complaining that a submission is inappropriate for the site. If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did." <http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html>
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Ask HN: What books/tutorials/articles to read to get into reverse engineering? - mlejva ====== jamieweb I've been picking up the basics in the past few months - I started out with playing around with some open source tools (radare2/Cutter), and then watching Josh Stroschein's introductory course on PluralSight [1]. The course is more Windows oriented but that's alright for the basics. Then, I asked my friend to make me a really basic CrackMe challenge [2]. Solving this was where most of the real learning took place. The tool I have been learning is Cutter [3], which is the official GUI for radare2. It's a feature-rich and open-source tool that allows you to reverse engineer without the licensing/price restrictions of the more well-known paid/closed-source tools. To help concrete this new knowledge, I'm currently working on a 3-part introduction to reverse engineering with Cutter series, part 1 of which is out so far [4]. Something that I've found very useful for learning is to analyse your own binary rather than someone else's. Just write basic C++ programs ("What's your name?", calculator, etc - almost as if you're learning programming from scratch again), compile and then reverse engineer them. Having full knowledge of what the binary does and how it works allows you to focus on understanding the technical details (registers, stack, etc) rather than jumping straight in at the deep end with a mystery binary. Once you've got your head around how a basic binary works, the knowledge is very transferable to binaries where you _don 't_ have the source code. [1] [https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/reverse-engineering- gett...](https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/reverse-engineering-getting- started) [2] [https://github.com/jamieweb/crackme- challenge](https://github.com/jamieweb/crackme-challenge) __Looking at source.cpp may reveal the solution, so be careful! Get a trusted friend to audit the code first if you are concerned about its legitimacy. __ [3][https://github.com/radareorg/cutter](https://github.com/radareorg/cutter) [4] [https://www.jamieweb.net/blog/radare2-cutter-part-1-key- term...](https://www.jamieweb.net/blog/radare2-cutter-part-1-key-terminology- and-overview/) ------ ecesena Lately I read this interesting article on STM flash protection, incredibly clear, but also rich of low level details: [https://www.usenix.org/conference/woot17/workshop- program/pr...](https://www.usenix.org/conference/woot17/workshop- program/presentation/obermaier)
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Down With Social - twampss http://spencerfry.com/down-with-social ====== bonaldi There needs to be a Godwin-esque term for "takes one data point and extrapolates it to the entire world". So, for his 5-person company the social media role "just isn't" a full-time job. I doubt if marketing or HR are full-time jobs there, either. But at a 1000-person company, they very much are. Tweeters demand and expect instant responses: look how out of the control the Amazon-hates-gays thing got because they took a day or two (fast by corp standards) to respond. You want an instant response from a big company you need a person or team constantly watching and able to get in touch with the people with the answers very quickly. (This fantasy of "everyone in the company can tweet!" doesn't work any more than "everyone in the company will blog on the world wide web!" did) Similarly, he begs the question hugely with his shade-of-blue instance on analytics and metrics. Not everything that can't be quantified is valueless. It's hard to put a figure on how well-written an article is, for example, or how interesting a story is. What you can do is measure them by their effects -- see how many readers a story gets, for instance. But even this is a bad path to take: it leads to celebrity gossip and link whoring. Social media is similar. You might not provide the analytics Spencer wants, but equally you might not _want_ what analytics you do get. ~~~ armandososa > There needs to be a Godwin-esque term for "takes one data point and > extrapolates it to the entire world". "Cum hoc ergo propter hoc" is not very Godwin-esque, but I think it'll work here. ~~~ saratogacx I'm not sure you can get away with any term on the internet where Cum is the first word. ------ patio11 I'd be really interested in tales of how social media is working for people in real, measurable ways, _particularly_ for folks who do not sell to the usual suspects. I'm of the impression that my market is on Facebook these days, or I would not have to spend so much time squashing cow requests from great-aunts, but all my attempts to use this to the benefit of my business have been crashing failures. I'm not sure if that is because my customers just aren't there yet, my implementation(s) of these campaigns has just universally sucked, or there is too much of a mental disconnect between Facebook and my problem domain for my users. The success stories I read about are generally techy-focused or, ahem, perhaps more enthusiastic than is warranted by measured results. ~~~ euroclydon My impression, after watching my brother who runs a chiropractic office in San Francisco which has had a heavy internet presence for years, spend thousands of dollars hiring kBuzz to create a Facebook site/campaign, is that Facebook users simply aren't in the mood to be marketed to in the traditional sense. The mindsets that you have when you're checking up on your friends versus when you're searching for a product to buy, are almost mutually exclusive. That's just my two cents. I also felt that his Facebook campaign relied heavily on give-a-way's which don't jibe with what people are looking for in a doctor, namely authority, trustworthiness, and warmth. ~~~ alabut That's a pretty good description of the mindset and the focus on the user's intentions also explains why adwords does so well. You _intend_ to find something when you're searching and are receptive to ads that help you do that, whereas you _intend_ to check up on friends and have fun when you're on a social network. It's why ads that tap into the same intentions do well, like games, shopping, conferences, etc. ------ maxklein This post is just wrong. He says that their site does not have social features - and he says it in a strangely proud manner. Have you TRIED social features and after comparing the two, discovered that the version without social features was better? The site in question looks like it would benefit from social features - if you are not motivated to add features, then don't retro- explain them as if it were a tested and proven hypothesis. You guys just don't WANT to add social features - done proper, it could male the site better. Now, regarding the statement that social media is not useful - that's just not true. Used wrongly (follower chasing), it's wrong. If you treat social as a metric, then you are doing it wrong. Social is about people and relationships - an you don't need many followers to have great and profitable relationships using social media. It's really all about using these tools right, and Spencer does not seem to be doing so. ------ dsplittgerber This "social" thing is similar to so many societal changes occuring over time. It's introduced, picked up, overdone, there is an anti-movement and over time, it finds its way into regular life in an amount and a way that fits with people's lifestyle. In internet speak, let's wait and see how social 2.0 comes about. ~~~ cageface <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic> thesis -> antithesis -> synthesis ~~~ carbocation (In particular, that formulation fits with what most people would call the "Hegelian dialectic.") ~~~ cageface Yep. I get the impression from chatting with people more up on philosophy that this model has fallen into disfavor but I seem to bump into real-world examples of it all the time. ~~~ maxawaytoolong It moved over to the other humanities domains. Every philosophical "criticism" (art, literary, feminist, media, cultural, etc) stems from Hegel. The latest trend is Zizek. ------ SandB0x People look at successful companies, see that they have a Facebook page and are posting on Twitter, and assume these things will make them successful too. It doesn't quite work that way round. ~~~ joshhart Cargo cult startups? ------ wccrawford He's right in that some sites should be 'social' and some shouldn't... But for the life of me, I can't think of any sites that shouldn't be and are. That portfolio site that he says shouldn't be, isn't, and that's correct. It's not to talk about the art, it's to display it. The site correctly knows it's niche and it's acting appropriately. However, if that site had been DeviantArt and tried to avoid having 'social' features, it would be devastatingly wrong. ------ jakevoytko Contacting a person over social media is obviously of limited value. If you get a Tweet from a random business, you're going to ignore it. You know they're selling you something, and you have no idea who they are. You're not even sure they're not a spammer. At best, you'll "Like" it or Retweet with the message "this looks cool!". Whatever that's worth. But the message will never leave Twitter, and it will be gone within minutes. This is bad. As Seth Godin points out in "Purple Cow," you want other people to remark about your product. A good blog post might spawn a dozen tweets, but a great Tweet that spawns a dozen blog posts is exceedingly rare. You want to communicate in mediums that encourage others to remark: conferences, tech talks, blog posts, and even aggregators like HN or Reddit. If you see a business mentioned by several of your friends, and on HN, and know company X uses their stuff, you're going to check them out because of your natural curiosity. If you provide good source material, people will go out of their way to mention you elsewhere. After all, there are Karma points at stake! But if you try to form a conversation in a social medium, its as awkward as walking up to the person in real life and announcing, "I'm great! Don't you think so?" ~~~ IgorPartola Agreed. It seems to me that a lot of people assume that they can just reach their customers. For example, I deliberately try to make it hard to get in touch with me. I don't click on most ads (since they are almost never what I'm looking for) and I never answer promotional e-mail (unless it is personally addressed to me at which point I reply with a no-thank-you). If a company tried to reach me with their product they'd have to infiltrate places like HN and that is hard to do. So maybe the approach should be the opposite. Companies should focus on building a product they can market to people who will buy it and who they can convince to buy it. ------ Encosia Whenever I hear someone label social as "echo chambers in which nobody is listening", all I can think is that they must be doing it wrong. Seems to be a "tell" for when someone's awkwardly _using_ the medium as a write-only marketing channel, which explains why they aren't getting traction. You get what you give. ~~~ crux_ Something of a counterpoint: <http://leoville.com/buzz-kill> ~~~ Encosia Leo's also interacting with people on Twitter daily. His engaging with people there on a one-to-one level seems to exactly disprove the idea that it's an echo chamber that no one's paying attention to. By the same token, it should come as no surprise that something so mechanical that it was automated through a third party wouldn't be missed. ~~~ crux_ > His engaging with people there on a one-to-one level seems to exactly > disprove the idea that it's an echo chamber that no one's paying attention > to. Except, you know, for the part where he calls it an echo chamber that no one is paying attention to: "It makes me feel like everything I’ve posted over the past four years on Twitter, Jaiku, Friendfeed, Plurk, Pownce, and, yes, Google Buzz, has been an immense waste of time. I was shouting into a vast echo chamber where no one could hear me because they were too busy shouting themselves." ~~~ Encosia Look at a Twitter search for @LeoLaporte to see all the people responding to him and/or trying to engage with him, or look at his Twitter stream to see him interacting with people himself. For that matter, look at all of the people commenting on his Buzz postings directly (e.g. [http://www.google.com/buzz/laporte/iGbULnn1UMH/Its-funny- bec...](http://www.google.com/buzz/laporte/iGbULnn1UMH/Its-funny-because-its- true)) None of that squares very well with the echo chamber claim. ------ jasongullickson _Tweeting, Tumblring, Facebooking, blogging, etc., are all routine tasks that can be performed by any person out there with basic English skills and a friendly personality._ Precisely...and this is why so many programmers, developers, executives and any other kind of "specialist" can justify hiring someone for this position. ~~~ Tichy Still, also on Twitter some people are way more popular than others. ------ njharman Am I the only one who believes blogging and email are part of social media? Other than to troll traffic with controversial post why do so many bloggers make the assumption "that my niche situation / experience applies to everyone everywhere and reveals new fundamental laws that I must loudly proclaim in absolutest terms." ~~~ mgrouchy I don't think they believe that assumption, I think they believe that proclaiming assumptions, rules and absolutes in a very loud voice gets people to read your blog(and guess what? It works!). ------ notahacker I'm confused by the suggestion that "social media marketing can't be measured" (and equally perplexed by the suggestion that banner ad effectiveness couldn't be monitored). Social networks are more popular with marketers not because of their novelty (they've been around in different guises since before the web...) but because they are increasingly centralised on platforms with real names and relationship networks, which offer far more quantitative data on reactions to your product whose relationship to actual sales can be analysed. And even if you're half-hearted it's a more efficient way to spam with the good old-fashioned coupon code as a measure of how many people that saw your messages circulating on social media networks chose to buy Just because companies sometimes look at the wrong metrics doesn't mean they aren't there to be observed, or that the benefits aren't there just because "likes" turn out to be only loosely correlated with purchases. The only real losers in the social game are people building networks for people that won't come or won't buy. ------ robryan I'd disagree that having a dedicated person doing the social media for a company doesn't add value, nothing measurable but I would be very surprised. It depends I guess if you are directly trying to shove something down peoples throats or acting as a channel of communication between an entity or product and potential customers. I guess many of the most effective uses of social media are very hard measure in terms of a dollar value as you aren't getting people to directly go click on something and spend money. An example would a team I support in AFL, over a period of time they have build up a following on facebook from a large group of supporters, facilitating closer contact between the club and fans and an opportunity to give supporters a convenient place to discuss the club. It's pretty much impossible to measure how this increased interest and involvement from supporters assists their main products, memberships and game attendance, but I feel it is worth the investment. ------ bosch "Social media marketing can't be measured, at least not effectively. Spending money on social media marketing reminds me of the early 2000s, when you couldn't measure the effectiveness of banner ads. Everyone was spending on it without knowing what the outcome was." This is very true. While tweeting and facebooking might be very cool, how can you tell it's worth the time you spend doing it without a MEASURABLE return? And if it's not resulting in sales is it worth doing? ------ gamble If he really believes this, why is he blogging about it?
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Come for the network, pay for the tool - cookingoils https://subpixel.space/entries/come-for-the-network-pay-for-the-tool/ ====== codingdave Paid communities aren't new. AOL was a paid community. Anyone remember Apple's eWorld? I'm not denying that the economics of the internet are evolving, it just irks me our industry comes full circle to the same stuff we hashed through decades ago and people act like it is a new phenomenon. ~~~ derefr > AOL was a paid community. Did the majority of people paying for AOL really pay for it for access _to AOL services_ , rather than thinking of it mostly as an Internet (and email) service provider, that just _happened_ to offer some value-added gated- community-portal services? Were those portal services an actual selling point? Maybe a better example is paying in phone minutes to dial into a BBS. Sure, that money isn't going _to_ the BBS (unless it's on a 900 number)—but users are still being charged by the minute to be there, so they're constantly doing an ROI calculation and only staying if they're getting real value out of the place. ~~~ codingdave > Did the majority of people paying for AOL really pay for it for access to > AOL services Yes, they really did. Before the web grew, AOL had far more content in its services. There were discussions, communities, even early MMORPGs. They devolved into an ISP and email later. ------ syntheticcorp Apparently a “Bloomberg Hacker News clone” exists, according to this article. Does anyone have access to it? Is it good? ------ jasode The author doesn't seem to reference it but the title looks to be a riff on the 2015 article _" Come for the tool, stay for the network"_: [https://cdixon.org/2015/01/31/come-for-the-tool-stay-for- the...](https://cdixon.org/2015/01/31/come-for-the-tool-stay-for-the-network) ~~~ eitland > Bloomberg is an example of the classic Web 2.0 business maxim “come for the > tool, stay for the network.” But the inverse trajectory, from which this > essay takes its name, is now equally viable: “come for the network, pay for > the tool.” Just as built-in social networks are a moat for information > products, customized tooling is a moat for social networks.1 I don't know if the post has been updated, but unless I misread something it is explicitly mentioned now. ------ tantaman The example paid communities are trivial -- they're hobbyist groups when contrasted against the social media companies this article is trying to compare against. and it starts with quite an unsubstantiated claim " and audiences are slowly but surely evacuating the big social media companies" ------ fouc \- The Emergence of Paid Communities \- Paid Communities Are a New Business Model for Bespoke Social Media ------ joezydeco Meanwhile, MetaFilter just turned 21 years old.
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Linkedin gets a new look - codegeek http://www.cnbc.com/id/49433400 ====== gren I don't really like this dark header in contrast with the body. Also the dropdown menu dark border looks horrible IMHO. The rest is quite ok! :-)
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How I used Heroku, Chargify and Sendgrid to take my web-app to market in 3 days - Tawheed http://www.tawheedkader.com/2010/04/how-i-used-heroku-chargify-and-sendgrid-to-take-my-web-app-to-market-in-3-days/ ====== ApolloRising Did you include the time it takes to create/purchase a merchant account, Payment Gateway, etc? ~~~ Psyonic No, he didn't. He had already done that for braintrust and re-used it. So it is a bit misleading. ~~~ ApolloRising Thanks
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OTPW – A one-time password login package - JNRowe https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/otpw.html ====== JNRowe Links to alternatives and/or advice about how to judge the quality of these types of things as an outsider would be appreciated. For example, to me having Markus Kuhn's name attached to it is a big plus. However, just saying "oh, some well known security dude was involved" doesn't seem like the best way to evaluate a security product.
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Ask HN: How to set up a minimalist professional web page these days - ACow_Adonis I&#x27;m thinking it might be time for me to start branching out on my own. I&#x27;ve been doing analytics and stats for a long time now. But I haven&#x27;t done anything with the web for almost a decade.<p>What&#x27;s a recommended path to setting up a nice clean, minimal, compatible website&#x2F;web presence these days for myself.<p>I&#x27;m thinking things like no advertising, email domains, minimal overhead, maximum compatibility. Oh and I guess I&#x27;ll need a domain :p<p>Dev time on my behalf kept to a minimum would be a plus, obviously? I&#x27;m willing to pay a bit of money (think what one guy can afford on a decent salary) for tooling...(but I want to do the actual work myself).<p>Content wise I&#x27;m thinking primarily involving written articles, books, papers, blogs, visualisations, and maybe links to video&#x2F;presentations.<p>So how about it HN? Possible, easy, silly? What do you suggest? ====== achairapart 1) Use a service like SquareSpace or Medium, no dev involved. 2) Use WordPress: just pick a simple, one purpose theme and avoid bloated ones (ie ThemeForest). It requires a LAMP/LEMP stack. 3) Ghost is an alternative blogging platform with minimalistic and usually well designed themes. It runs on Node.js. 4) Pick one of the many static site generators based on the language of your choice. They require no database and only need basic static hosting: [https://www.staticgen.com/](https://www.staticgen.com/) ------ _RPM Mine is a true home page. There isn't anything on their but hand written HTML that contains links to my online stuff. Not really anything special. It also contains a picture of myself and my email. I wrote some obfuscated javascript to write my email to the document. ~~~ ACow_Adonis OP here: Html + css was where the tech was last time I involved myself with the web, WordPress had just come out as "a thing". I'm not against it, but is like to know where we're at and what's feasible/standard these days. Ideally I'd like something a bit more involved than raw html (unless it's become far more sophisticated than I remember), as I imagine I'll be updating and writing and presenting quite often, so a way to structure/manage/maintain/present/modularise/categorise material would be great. As I'm on the data science end of things, I'm guessing I'd also be looking at hosting/presenting small data sets, or at least visuals representing such to be inserted/included in posts/demos/documents... ------ avail I wrote my homepage[1] in about an hour (with bits and pieces of js borrowed). I used to have a wordpress blog styled exactly the same, but I never posted on it so it is gone now. I by all means don't think this is 'professional', but I doubt what you want to make would need much more work than I have done. These days there's resources for _everything_ , webservers which have really good proxying if you want to code in a language other than php or manually writing html, pre-made 'article-writing software' in many languages made for the web. Tools? All you'd need is notepad, or nano (or, your preferred text editor)! You shouldn't need to run compiled code for the web, in my opinion, as there's no noticeable speed differences. Googling for specific things in a specific language will probably give you results, e.g. 'nodejs blog' will land you to Hexo[2], which really neat, customizable, and fast. [1] [https://avail.pw](https://avail.pw) [2] [https://hexo.io/](https://hexo.io/) ------ mdorazio Can you provide more detail on what you're actually looking to post and how much functionality you want to include? On the lowest effort end, squarespace is a pretty decent option for getting something that looks nice up and running quickly without needing to deal with server stuff. It works for several colleagues, but has some flexibility limitations. The next step up would probably be a Wordpress installation either on your own server or the lower-effort hosted solutions from wordpress.com. Personally I can't stand wordpress (it's become immensely bloated and keeping it updated and all your plugins/themes/whatever in sync and playing nicely can be a pain), but it works well for a huge number of people. After that you're looking at rolling your own custom page on your own server, maybe a simple themeforest template on a shared host. I don't recommend this approach these days unless you're itching to get your hands dirty with some code whenever you want to update something. ~~~ ACow_Adonis Thanks for the reply: very quickly, I'm looking primarily at essentially showing off my analytical abilities and making available articles and writing. It is essentially marketing for...me. I appreciate I'm being a bit vague, because I'm just trying to gauge what the state of play/possibilities are at this point. I'm really not concerned with (in fact probably against) social involvement such as comments or community forming things on my site. Its all me. I'm torn about whether it could be integrated with the likes of social media (to automatically make posts to an equivalent facebook/twitter page/account). I do not need/want to make any money off of the site itself, so I don't want to worry about advertising, and indeed, want to keep it off the site and make it 100% gauged around user accessability. Its goal is to make money by people being interested in hiring me and what i do, rather than generate revenue by views of the site. Really, its going to be a very close form to that of a fancy blog/versions, but posts may take forms of blog posts, articles, presentations, books or software links/articles etc. I would appreciate some way to apply themes and manage or structure my content. Don't know if that helps at all... ------ bobwaycott There is a plethora of static site generators in just about any language, nearly all of which have some decent-looking templates you can use. Then managing your site is just a matter of writing markdown for text content, and pushing it up somewhere for hosting. Github can handle this, as can many other services (e.g., S3). ------ LarryMade2 I like dokuwiki - [https://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki#](https://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki#) You can use a CMS template to make it blog like, lets you do nice formatting no cruft. Here my use of it (need to do some updating, been a while): [http://www.portcommodore.com](http://www.portcommodore.com) Heres a good example page: [http://www.portcommodore.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=larry:proj...](http://www.portcommodore.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=larry:projects:flash_attack_cable&s\[\]=flash&s\[\]=cable) ------ probinso If you do not want to see yourself as web developer, you can often find free templates that are simple HTML CSS. You can either use this as your template depending on the license, or create a derived piece. I use Dynamic DNS and a lamp(hp) server hosted on a Raspberry Pi. This cost me a total of $10 a year + trivial Electronics costs. My site consists of 0 interactive parts. I have no use of a database . It only lists work that I've done, Often linking out to GitHub repositories. ------ bbcbasic Just to throw a few numpty options out there we have Wix, Wordpress.com, Blogger. Then there is Github pages and some people have created template repositories that you can clone or fork that look rather nice and are easy to post content to if you just learn Markdown which takes five minutes E.g. [https://github.com/barryclark/jekyll- now](https://github.com/barryclark/jekyll-now) ------ snehesht If you just need a blog try this [https://posthaven.com](https://posthaven.com) However if you need an intro page I would suggest wordpress, they have a hosted one too, incase you don't want to deal with server stuff. p.s My site [https://snehesh.me](https://snehesh.me) is built on react and nginx ------ kelt I went this route for a simple web pressence: \- html theme from themeforest \- amazon s3 for hosting the static files \- linked a domain \- used formspree.io for the contact form Not much traffic, couple of cents a month. I don't do much updating too. Worked well for me. Good luck! ------ bigmanwalter My choice right now is to build a small Django site with a sqlite db backing it. This way you get a free admin dashboard for updating the site. For the theme, grab something from www.html5up.com ------ kirankn I would suggest Jekyll on Github pages with a custom domain and possibly Zoho for custom email. All this is free and can be setup on a quiet Sunday afternoon. ------ walrus01 What is your level of proficiency with Apache/php/mysql? There are some good minimalist WordPress templates that do not look like a blog. ------ sheraz Wix, weebly, or square space. Done and done. I'm a dev and would doing it if I were not such a cheap bastard. ------ peternicky Check out codepen and/or GitHub pages...very simple and flexible. ~~~ ACow_Adonis My concern/hesitancy with github (possibly completely unfounded) is that the site is primarily targeted at developers. So while I already have a github account, and developers appreciate it and that setup, I think it's kind of hostile to non-developers. Non tech people don't like/want to be referred to a git page. Say for example I want to show commercially/professionally that I can predict elections, real estate prices, gambling markets or pedestrian/traffic movements, and I convey this through words and visualisation. I think in a lot of that space, any window/connection to git or software development is a barrier to many of the people who would hire me to do such, and the technical people would dig deeper if they wished. Or they can home in on the specifically technical articles. So is it possible, if hosted on git pages, to divorce the page on a presentation level from any concept of git/repositories/software development concepts if I so choose? ~~~ hanniabu You can use a custom domain with github pages so nobody would know the difference, plus the housing is free. I use this in conjunction with CloudFlare [1] for free partial SSL and Formspree [2] for free static email capabilities. I would make a simple medium/markdown styled page and all you have to do for blogging is reuse the same frame, write your content, update the meta tags, and add a link to your blogging page. It may take about 5 more minutes per post you make, but in the end I think it's worth it considering how much faster your site will load with the static content. [1] [https://blog.keanulee.com/2014/10/11/setting-up-ssl-on- githu...](https://blog.keanulee.com/2014/10/11/setting-up-ssl-on-github- pages.html) [2] [https://formspree.io](https://formspree.io) ------ marvel00legend Try WIX
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Samsung GT-E1080E - LutfiGjuta http://35879604470894/0 ====== gaspoweredcat why have you posted the imei of a samsung feature phone?
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Cloudflare Bans Sites for Using Cryptocurrency Miners - fraqed https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-bans-sites-for-using-cryptocurrency-miners-171004/ ====== godzillabrennus Good move from my perspective. The user isn't opting in to participate in this mining so it's ethical for Cloudflare to protect the user. ~~~ thephyber > According to Cloudflare, unannounced miners are considered malware. This suggests that Cloudflare might still allow "announced" miners, even if they aren't opt-in. ~~~ hobarrera If they're well enough announced, you opt in by leaving the tab open. You can opt-out immediately by leaving. ~~~ Raed667 Opt-in is clicking "opt-in" button.
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Ask HN: Should an RSA public exponent be prime? - cr0bar_uk I&#x27;ve done some research and found conflicting answers.. should an RSA public exponent (used in GPG etc) be prime? Is there a security risk in using non-prime numbers? ====== tptacek 1\. Technical answer: an RSA public exponent needs to be coprime with the modulus, which is not the same as requiring that it be prime. 2\. Pragmatic answer: prime numbers are generally coprime with the modulus, and so they're an easy answer, and so RSA public exponents tend to be prime. 3\. Best-practice answer: just use 65537, in all cases. The other popular answer is 3, which is mathematically fine, but leaves less room for implementation error; there are some implementation flaws for which attacks are untenable with e=65537. 4\. Long-term answer: don't use RSA. RSA is well on its way to obsolescence. Most problems you'd ever want to solve with RSA are better solved with Curve25519 (for DH) and Ed25519 (for signing). Not coincidentally, these are the algorithms implemented by Nacl, the only crypto library you should consider using. 5\. Scolding answer: if you have to ask, please don't try to implement any of this yourself. It is _very_ difficult to get RSA right. ~~~ sdevlin I think e needs to be coprime with phi(N) rather than N itself. This is so you can find d = e^-1 mod phi(N), which would otherwise not exist. Of course, if e shares a factor with N, you have bigger problems. ~~~ tptacek Oh, duh. Of course. :)
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Walking Contrarian, Peter Thiel - hobaak https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-11-14/peter-thiel-is-silicon-valley-s-contradiction-video ====== bob_theslob646 FYI, video does no play for me with Adguard enabled on mobile.
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Are Startups Cool? - dshanahan http://dshan.me/are-startups-cool/ ====== mimiflynn Startups are just like any venture into starting your own business: its hard. But, your article talks about 'working at a startup' as if interchangeable with 'founding a startup', when, obviously, its not. I agree with your tribe membership reference, but, its almost more like being in a bad relationship when you think about the employee. Lots of young fresh developers are drawn to startups because of the pingpong tables and 'free' meals, potential equity in the business, and the coolness of being at a startup. They get a salary that isn't as much as they could be making at an established business, but they get all those perks, and they might even be able to own part of the business one day. They have to work long hours and get no vacation and have limited resources (sometimes having to use their own personal computer!) because the business is a startup and working at a startup means its exciting and you're going to take over the world and everyone will know about you, but, really, you don't have time to have a life. You're forced to write really bad code to get a feature out fast because the investors want to see something, anything, which means refactoring for a better future is out of the question because they just need to sell the startup to a big firm ASAP. Its hard to keep a straight face around a developer that just moved to New York City talking about the cool new startup they just got a job at, quoting their salary (which is far below average) and pitching like a business person why their company is different than all of their more established competitors. I'm not trying to say 'straight face' as in laugh at them, I mean 'straight face' as in "you're about to fall off the cliff into bitter bitter land like me and I'm sorry!" especially when they talk of catered lunched and dinners and events and such because all it means if they feed you is that they don't want you to leave the office. So, yes, I agree with you that startups are difficult. I just thought the employee's perspective is valid in this case too. ~~~ dshanahan I agree that I slipped in between 'founding' and 'working' a bit. The conversation that inspired the post was agnostic to the distinction, obviously, but you're right there are differences. I think it's most useful to actually explore the 'employee' experience, as outsiders will most likely end up there if they jump from traditional work - this is what I'm seeing most often anyway. I wouldn't go so far as to say working in startups leads inevitably to bitterness for the people who are made for it. I did certainly write the post hoping it serves as fair warning that you should expect it to suck a lot. ~~~ mimiflynn Yeah, I shouldn't speak for everyone when I speak of my own bitterness ;) Overall, I'm glad I worked for a startup because it gave me the insight to understand what I would want to do differently in my own business.
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Ask HN: Have any good website ideas? I'll implement them, open source - lampstack Hey HN- currently in a rut because I want to program but I don&#x27;t have any good website&#x2F;app ideas to implement. Post any website ideas you want implemented and if there&#x27;s enough support I&#x27;ll make it, 100% open source. ====== opendomain Sounds like a great idea! How do I contact you? I am hacker AT my username dot org
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30 Years of .ORG - fcambus http://happy30th.org ====== 0x0 The "responsive" text layout needs some work. I clicked and clicked expecting to find the second half of every sentence (".ORG hit the 10 million mark with"... with what?) and only at the very end did it occur to me to resize the browser window.
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Facebook Back on the Defensive, Now Over Data Deals with Device Makers - Cbasedlifeform https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/technology/facebook-device-partnerships-criticized.html ====== merricksb Previous/ongoing discussions: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17229397](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17229397) (272 points/251 comments) [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17223926](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17223926) (700 points/200 comments) ------ mlb_hn This is a followup to the first article where they confused the ability to use a device to access Facebook functionality (e.g. upload photos) without using the app or browser with giving a third party the ability to access Friend data. The common understanding seems to be that Facebook is allowing device manufacturers to download user data the same way that Cambridge Analytica and other third party services did. So far, they haven't shown that device manufacturers are siphoning that data to their own databases short of the statement "Facebook acknowledged that some partners did store users’ data — including friends’ data — on their own servers" (in the original article, no explanation of context). What they have shown is that Facebook gave device manufacturers the ability to let users use the device to interact with their Facebook accounts without using the web browser. ~~~ supercanuck >"Facebook acknowledged that some partners did store users’ data — including friends’ data — on their own servers" Let's just let this statement stand on it's own for a moment. ~~~ cjhopman Amazon Silk does that whenever you log in to facebook (or any other site, for that matter). The data they capture during that presumably isn't even covered by a similar data use agreement. ------ dmagee What I think is really interesting is that there is public appetite for outrage against the tech giants. Hence why this article was published even though there is not a whole lot more information. Public outrage often results in low hanging fruit for political movements to pick and use for their own gain. If this snowballs some more I expect reactionary politicians and reactionary policies to rear their ugly head. ~~~ ehnto It is interesting but perhaps not surprising. They have gone from darling startups to consuming our lives and holding enormous power to influence, people have noticed and people care. It might be surprising if you don't feel the same way though and aren't exposed to it. In the same way that I wouldn't have noticed the brexit movement had even a handful of followers when infact it was a huge portion of people. The lesson I took from that was that I have a world view but it is only a tiny fraction of possible world views, and I will never know or understand most of them. I do wonder what sort of politics it will influence though, as it stands I can't really imagine many outcomes. These are new problems in a unique political climate, I haven't been able to read it well for a while now. ------ wyldfire > But Facebook officials said this week that they did not consider hardware > partners to be outside companies, under the terms of Facebook’s privacy > policies and a 2011 consent decree with the Federal Trade Commission. ....except for when hardware partners are discovered to have had a breach, in which case Facebook officials said that those companies would be held liable. ~~~ extralego True. And even besides your example of discontinuity, if they want more specificity, it could be theirs. They are free to specify as much as needed when _they_ write the documents. ------ Larrikin Is there any feasible way to actually have the good parts of Facebook but prevent all of the data mining especially by third parties. I can't actually think of a way. Is there some subset of acceptable data to share? Is Facebook as it is right now totally broken and a new model needed? The use cases of automatically adding your friends pictures and birthdays to matching phone contacts was awesome when I first used it in college. Games like Words with Friends are a lot more fun when I'm actually playing with people I know. Not everyone discovers and plays games at the same time so its nice seeing when someone new starts playing and also knowing not to pester friends that stopped playing long ago. Being connected with actual people I know is nice, I just hope it doesn't all have to go away because there are so many people out there trying to abuse the data. ~~~ amarkov I don't like that my data is exploited to target ads. But I also wouldn't like it if Facebook charged 25 cents per friend request, or threatened to cut me off from my social groups if I didn't pay the monthly fee. Similar problems apply to Facebook's platform standards and data handling. I don't mean to claim that Facebook's done nothing wrong. But ultimately, there are uncomfortable tradeoffs involved in friendship-as-a-service. Expecting an completely non-creepy version of Facebook is like expecting a completely non-controversial version of government. ~~~ ericd Other than the obviously extremely-difficult-to-overcome network effects, I don't think it'd be impossible to create something decentralized that replicated much of the core functionality of Facebook, ie syndicating news, pictures, etc about people you care about, and providing some basic ability to have conversation threads. There'd obviously be some tradeoffs, but I don't think any of them would necessarily be mortal blows to the UX. ~~~ amarkov But it seems like decentralization would be a mortal blow to privacy. If we struggle to get a monolithic Facebook to treat our data responsibly, how could we possibly convince 500 decentralized Facebook nodes? (And why isn't it trivial for the NSA or FSB to copy the world's data by standing up node #238 under an alias?) ~~~ Yetanfou Decentralised as in "run your own for your family and any friends who do not want to run their own", not as in "run the node for this geographical area". As long as the management boundaries coincide with the privacy boundaries - i.e. data within nodes belongs to a group of people who already share said data since they are in the same family or friend group - the scenario you picture here would not come to pass. Of course there are several attempts at building a decentralised 'social' network like this, e.g. Diaspora and GNU Social. Thus far they have not taken off other than in limited circles. ------ dingo_bat In the article, they haven't said why they think FB is "back on the defensive". They just rehashed the whole controversy, no new events seem to have occurred. ~~~ bobbyi_settv I don't see how the article could have been any clearer. The first sentence explains that it is about how they are back on the defensive from US lawmakers and the rest of the article is directly quoting members of Congress including one who says "Sure looks like Zuckerberg lied to Congress". How is any of that "rehashing"? What lawmakers even knew about this at the time of the previous article? ~~~ dingo_bat > The first sentence explains that it is about how they are back on the > defensive > Facebook endured a new wave of criticism from lawmakers and regulators in > the United States and Europe on Monday after disclosures that the social > media giant had allowed dozens of hardware manufacturers access to its trove > of personal user data. I don't see any evidence of "defensive" action from fb. English is not my first language so maybe I'm misinterpreting being "on the defensive". If someone criticizes you are you automatically "on the defensive"? ~~~ yoav Yes ------ Froyoh Do you think the using 'facebook.com' in Apple's demonstration of their social media blocking feature at WWDC was deliberate? ~~~ pacala facebook.com is the largest social media site out there. ------ adamnemecek Fb, pls die already.
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What are the advantages of the Hurd over Linux/BSD? (2013) - pmoriarty http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/faq/still_useful.html ====== derefr > These were just examples, Linux is trying to catch up in ugly ways indeed > ... In the Hurd, it's that way from the ground and there is no limitation > like having to be root or ask for root to add magic lines, etc. HURD might have user filesystem servers, but they're nowhere near Plan9's "each process gets a mount table, and then things like environment variables are just exposed process-local mounted filesystems." Interestingly, given all the cgroups work put into the Linux kernel, you can almost achieve this postmodern "every process gets its own VFS, and uses it as scratch-space" effect with the one-two punch of: fusermount ... /mnt/env/1 docker run -v "/mnt/env/1:/env" ubuntu This, admittedly, still takes root-esque privileges somewhere along the line (either fusermount is SUID and run on the host, or the container must be run -privileged so you can mount inside it), but this isn't a fundamental restriction, just a historical artifact of Docker being designed before user- namespaces were finished. It's perfectly possible with raw unshare(2) to spawn a process as an unprivileged user, in which the process is acting with alternate-namespace UID0 privileges, and can mount whatever filesystems it likes in its alternate-namespace VFS. ~~~ stormbrew The need for privilege escalation to create the namespace is basically the rub for this sort of thing. It seems like the main thing that makes true plan9-style namespacing unrealistic is the security implications, since the filesystem is used extensively to control privilege escalation. Whether it's through setuid flags or through /etc/sudoers or /etc/groups, at some point a privileged program (su or sudo) might be running in an unknown or untrusted namespace where the facts visible to that program make a solid case for allowing the escalation. I'm not sure this tension can ever really be resolved without also adopting a plan9-style out-of-process escalation mechanism. Which is a huge departure from POSIX in and of itself, as far as I know. I'm really not sure how HURD deals with this, to be honest, or if it does at all. ------ mscarborough > These were just examples, Linux is trying to catch up in ugly ways indeed > ... In the Hurd, it's that way from the ground and there is no limitation > like having to be root or ask for root to add magic lines, etc. Catching up to what? A 24 year old kernel with no userbase and uses IRC logs as the majority of documentation? Is Hurd useful as anything other than a research project? I would be interested to see what people here who have used Hurd have to say. ~~~ ama729 > Is Hurd useful as anything other than a research project? Bear in mind that a research project can be interesting in its own right, not everything has to be about large scale use. Now if HURD is an interesting research, that's an entirely different subject... ~~~ rbanffy Even if it's not, not being interesting after so many years is, itself, interesting. I find the psychology of the attachment to software platforms fascinating. ------ snvzz At this point? None. It's a silly exercise on not going anywhere. HURD uses Mach, which is a mid-90s academic microkernel that's not so good in practice. Particularly, it's so slow at IPC (which is critical to performance in a pure microkernel system) that those using it (Darwin/OSX/IOS, HURD) had to compromise and use a hybrid architecture: Running drivers and some other components of the system with kernel privileges; A popular design choice in the 90s (also BeOS, Windows NT) due to the immaturity of microkernels. In late 90s/early 2000s, L4 happened. It went to great lengths to actually make achieving performance with a pure microkernel architecture possible. Afterwards, there were a lot of followup microkernels implementing the L4 interface, so these days when we say L4 we generally mean the interface, or any microkernel that implements it. The HURD was watching, and sometime early 2000s they realized that the hybrid architecture was dead and they needed to move on if they wanted to stay relevant. There was a serious attempt at porting HURD to L4. It was already working, but the people behind it became disillusioned with the HURD, after realizing flaws on the architecture. I recommend reading the papers the L4 port people wrote on this. Back then, there were some ten to twenty HURD developers active. After that, the HURD should have rethought its architecture and moved on with L4. Instead, they didn't continue the L4 effort nor fix the architecture. What they did was abandon it and start an entirely new port to a different microkernel, Coyotos, which didn't bear fruit, either. Throughout all this, the HURD was losing developers as they became disinterested. Fast forward to 2005, Andrew Tanenbaum and his students released the first version (a mere skeleton, without even virtual memory support) of Minix3, and continued working from there [http://wiki.minix3.org/MinixReleases](http://wiki.minix3.org/MinixReleases) , going a long way and bringing us to its current state. Right now, Minix3 has 20-30 active developers any given day, a few of which are working on it full- time, supported by funds coming from European Union research programs, as the reliability aspect [http://www.minix3.org/other/reliability.html](http://www.minix3.org/other/reliability.html) to Minix3 has been deemed important. Meanwhile, the HURD has 0-3 active developers depending on the day, none of which working full time, and with no roadmap or organization whatsoever. Last I've heard, they introduced userspace driver support, which is a step in the right direction, but a bit silly as the real problem (they're still using Mach) is yet to be solved. Minix3 next version, 3.3.0, is weeks away. Here's some insider info: It breaks ABI to adopt NetBSD types, skyrocketing compatibility with pkgsrc software. The system will for the first time be built dynamic, as mmap() is finally working and the dynamic library support has been adapted to actually do shared libraries using it. As lack of proper dynamic library support was holding back X (which already ran, but with barely any software for it), I expect we'll have a lot of WMs, DEs and GUI programs from here on, and interest will pick up. If you ask me about the HURD, I'd say it's not worth continuing. Just take along whatever salvageable ideas and concepts and move on. Working on a system that isn't at a dead end is one suggestion. Escape [https://github.com/Nils- TUD/Escape](https://github.com/Nils-TUD/Escape) , HelenOS and Minix3 are three such systems. Genode is not exactly a system but it is interesting in its own way, and Plan9Front [http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/](http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/) is very interesting even though it is not currently a pure microkernel system (it can be made so without breaking anything thanks to the awesome design). All these systems I suggested are _Free Software_ , interesting, promising and actually active. ~~~ fhars Another intersting microkernel might be seL4, which is an L4 implementation (as you might have guesses from the name) focussed on security that will be released as open source (code _and_ correctness proofs, as all good security software should be in an ideal world) at the end of July: [http://sel4.systems/](http://sel4.systems/) ~~~ erikano Didn't know seL4 was going to be open source. Thanks. ------ hcarvalhoalves With hardware support for virtualization I see the OS landscape going a different direction, it seems the Holy Grail of "everything is userspace" will be effectively side-stepped by "everything is sandboxed". ~~~ mrbabbage Here's something that's even more "out there": an experimental OS and programming environment where all protection is done statically, at compile time. You can do things as crazy as run all "user" processes and the kernel in the same (kernel-mode) address space safely, because the system compiler enforces type-safety and memory-safety. It's pretty cool! (my memory is a bit weak on this paper so some of the details might be off, but it's well worth the read) [http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/?id=69431](http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/?id=69431) ~~~ rbanffy Sounds interesting if you have very constrained hardware, but you'd have to trust the compilers or you wouldn't ever install 3rd party binaries. And I think gaius is right. Burroughs did it before. ------ barosl Presenting services in user space has always been a benefit of microkernels, which is welcomed considering that I frequently make use of FUSE or OpenVPN. The only concern for me is performance. Though I believe the service server provided by the Hurd would outperform FUSE, I'm not sure that it is worth the overhead of all other parts in the entire system. If the performance decrease is negligible, I'll be happy to use the kernel. ~~~ ChuckMcM In general, a kernel that requires a five transitions (user->kernel->user->kernel->user) for system service calls, will be less performant than one which requires only three (user->kernel->user) The impact is magnified with multiple services being involved. So if you naively design your disk driver as a user level process, your file system as a user level process, then something like read() from a user's applications goes: read -> kernel -> user(fs) -> kernel -> user(disk) -> kernel -> user(fs) -> kernel -> read(app). It was really really slow when things had different page mappings but it gets better if you have an alloc area where everyone shares the same virtual address space (keeps TLB thrashing down). Per another comment on this thread the Docker as P9 process is pretty close. But it doesn't share services per se across users in the space. Spring (Sun's research OS) looked at cutting the penalties down for moving kernel/user with some nice 'doors' kinds of things. At the time there was discussion that with enough address space (so that you're VM system got the benefit of warm caches and no page remapping) you could really do some interesting things. Were I retired I would probably spend some time playing with that stuff on a modern 64 bit architecture :-) ~~~ wolfgke five transitions (user->kernel->user->kernel->user) three (user->kernel->user) Aren't these 4 vs. 2 transitions? ~~~ ChuckMcM You are correct 5 contexts, four transitions. ------ rwmj Or with libguestfs (no root needed): guestfish -N test1.img=fs guestmount -a test1.img -m /dev/sda1 /tmp/mnt ------ GregBuchholz Here's a more interesting list of potential file system translators: [https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/translator/wishlist.h...](https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/translator/wishlist.html) ------ msl09 the best part of hurd is that systemd does not support it :)
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Turns out Amazon buying Eero wasn’t the startup success story we thought - aaronbrethorst https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/5/18297619/amazon-eero-price-fire-sale-mesh-wi-fi-buyout ====== yellow_postit I hope Eero has better luck under Amazon than Blink which seems to have stalled out after the Ring acquisition and is constantly having "sales" which makes me suspect they are just cleaning out inventory.
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In the Bay Area, technology has gone hand in hand with imperialism for 500 years - edw519 https://www.salon.com/2018/12/09/in-the-bay-area-technology-has-gone-hand-in-hand-with-imperialism-for-500-years/ ====== masonic n the late 18th century, the newly-arriving Spanish That would make it the last _300_ years, not 500. The Ohlone hadn't even employed the _wheel_ , let alone other technologies.
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Jeri Ellsworth, self-taught engineer, talks about her career (2011) [video] - jacquesm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLy0mVkoLio ====== gluelogic Jeri Ellsworth is a wizard! A huge inspiration to me. I always loved this floppy drive reverb she made: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpr7B-7BFP4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpr7B-7BFP4) ------ andrewstuart I wish Jeri would build the J64 - the definitive rebuild of the C64. ~~~ tdicola The C64 DTV is pretty close. You can hack them to add a keyboard and disk port without too much trouble. ~~~ andrewstuart Altavista was pretty close to Google. ------ radoslawc I didn't know her story. Amazing person. ~~~ fit2rule She really is an amazing person - I met her once, and became instantly a fan when she pulled out a "transistor I made". I mean, really .. make your own transistor? From scratch? Simply one of the most inspiring people I've ever met. ~~~ kropotkinlives Indeed. I tried to make a transistor with the reverse side of a pile of 74LS IC dies I extracted with solvents, household chemicals and a blow torch. I managed to make an acceptable diode that lasted about 2 minutes at a mere 200uA of current. I gave up then and decided that the transistor was the base abstraction layer I could be bothered with. For ref diode recipe: 1\. 74LS die. Turn it over. 2\. Small pile of borax on one half. Small pile of sulphur on other side. 3\. Apply torch until everything is baked nicely. 4\. Scrape off surface with a razor. 5\. Poke two pins connected to your circuit until you find a bit that works like a diode (can take a few minutes). I used a simple home made curve tracer out of a twin-t oscillator, buffer and an oscilloscope. Don't hit it with much current or it'll kill it instantly. ~~~ jacquesm You can do this with a lead crystal as well (that's how in the old days the diodes for crystal receivers were made). Even a dirty razor blade and a pencil will work as a diode! ~~~ kropotkinlives Yeah that was where I started with the idea and then decided to see if I could dope some silicon to make a diode then move up to transistor level, then a simple IC. You could knock up a point contact diode or even transistor without too much pain but that's not as much fun :) There's info on how to make point contact devices in here: [http://www.qrparci.org/wa0itp/csts_book.pdf](http://www.qrparci.org/wa0itp/csts_book.pdf) ------ makeset C64 Bass Guitar: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kDhpFaf4EY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kDhpFaf4EY) I first thought this was just someone slapping on an empty C64 case for a guitar body. It's... a bit more than that. ------ moron4hire She's been a major inspiration for my own work for years. ~~~ jacquesm I like your 'burning zombie'! ~~~ moron4hire Heh, thanks. That was sort of the start, my first major project outside of programming, outside of anything I had actually been trained in. I'd always had hobbies of a wide variety, and people always like to parrot that tired "jack of all trades, master of none" line. Seeing Ellsworth's work, it made it feel normal to not only be interested in and doing a bunch of different things, but to try to be good at it all, too. She's always seemed extremely brilliant, yet ultimately accessible. She's always not only created awesome things, but tried to explain them as well. To try to bring other people along into the fold. We could all use more of that. ~~~ jacquesm Fun story: Back in the early days of hobby computing a friend-of-a-friend, a guy called Jim ran a robotics gig in Amsterdam. He asked me to control a head on a stalk with the face of a politician on it lip-synched to some audio. Jaw movement, eyes rolling side to side, some facial animation. Very funny job. Anyway, one night I was working on the 'head' with the latex part off, you have to imagine a very scary looking appliance with teeth and two eyes painted (very realistically) on ping-pong balls behind a skull like frame of fibreglass. I was writing some code deeply concentrated when my refrigerator decided to generate some really ugly spark causing the servos on the head to become activated, the jaw opened really wide and the eyes rotated to face me, which totally scared the shit out of me. So much for me being level headed and cool under pressure ;) ~~~ moron4hire Hah! Yeah, that would freak me out, too. ------ unclesaamm The caption of her as "Force of Nature" made me laugh. Very inspiring. ------ 616c jacquesm, thank you for doing my homework for me. You went far beyond what I teased about. For background: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9576219](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9576219) Thanks again. ~~~ fnordfnordfnord See also: [http://www.windytan.com/](http://www.windytan.com/) and [https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea](https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea) ~~~ 616c windytan is sick. I have read the stuff every time it is posted here, and I am saddened with all my interest in SIGINT as a kid I never took it seriously, because her non-mil, non-intel signals analysis makes it seem so much cooler than what I read about as a kid! And it is so approachable.
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Is Google Planning an E-Book Rental Service? - Anon84 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/is_google_planning_an_e-book_rental_service.php ====== godkira Interesting. FTA "And would users choose to go to Google for this service, rather than some of the other e-book publishers and providers out there?" Personally I have had nothing but good experiences with Google, and depending on the prices and books available I would have no problem renting books from Google. ~~~ hugh3 And since they've already got damn near every book ever written scanned and indexed I can see big... uhhh, synergies. Or whatever the non-wanky synonym for "synergies" is. I google for "obscure topic X" and I find a few crappy websites combined with what looks like a great discussion in the book "An Advanced Course In Obscure Topic X". It tells me I can find a hardcopy in the library three miles away, _or_ for 99 cents I can rent an e-copy from Google for four weeks. Why the hell not? Everybody wins -- me, Google, and the publisher.
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Doge iOS - lukasko https://twitter.com/doge_ios ====== ctruman This is awesome. A great addition to [https://twitter.com/horse_ios](https://twitter.com/horse_ios)
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Gandi – Why we retired the security question - ddacunha https://news.gandi.net/en/2020/07/why-we-retired-the-security-question/?affiliate=nl_EN_jul20_1&pk_campaign=Newsletter_EN_email_44032&pk_kwd=NL&pk_source=email&pk_medium=email&pk_content=news1_security ====== Jaruzel In the UK the NCSC[1] also no longer advocate security questions such as these and recommends using MFA to recover lost passwords. Additionally they also advocate non-expiring passwords, as ironically, having to change a password every 30 days actually causes users to use less secure passwords (i.e. Monday1, Monday2, Monday3 etc.). \-- [1] [https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/](https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/) ------ sha666sum This URL includes a bunch of tracking parameters. Cleaned version: [https://news.gandi.net/en/2020/07/why-we-retired-the- securit...](https://news.gandi.net/en/2020/07/why-we-retired-the-security- question/) ------ FunSociety Using the email to trigger a password recovery is a good solution. But in the end, you are just outsourcing your "self-care" problem to the email provider. ~~~ Normille That works as long as you to know the email you signed up with and have forgotten the password. But what if it's the other way round? I'd imagine most web savvy people these days have several email addresses and lots of us will use disposable emails or tricks like adding '+something' to our emails when we sign up. I've recently run into this problem on a couple of sites [I'm thinking Trustpilot and Mastodon but could be wrong], whereby my password manager had saved my login name and password but, when I returned to the site, it wanted me to login with my email address and password. [inconsistent naming of form fields twixt registration screen and login screen, no doubt]. I couldn't remember which of my half dozen or so email addresses or "+"-added variations of them I'd used, or if I'd used a disposable email like Mailinator to sign up. So I clicked on the "forgot login" link --which then asked enter my account email address, in order to be sent a password reset link! ------ Normille Another favourite of mine is when sites ask your date of birth as a security question. Y'know, that top secret piece of info known only to; yourself, your family, most of your friends, anyone you've ever worked for, anyone you've ever filled in a form for... etc. Which is why, when sites require me to setup answers for these dumb security questions, I always invent ridiculous ones and then save those along with the password in my password manager. It did partially backfire one time though when my insurance co. had to ring me and asked me to confirm my mother's maiden name. I don't think they believed me when I replied it was "Hitler".
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