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"\nI have a couple of small issues, and I'm not sure if their exmh issues\nor my setup issues.\n\nFirst, when I try and run exmh with wish from tk8.4.0 it seems to take\nforever to start, but with wish from tk8.a.4 it starts in a snap.\n\nUsing the latest CVS, when I open exmh and the folder I'm in has unseen\nmessages and I hit next, exmh changes to the next folder with unseen messages\nrather than to the first unseen in the current folder.\n\nFinally, when I reach the end of the messages in a folder and go on to\nthe next unseen, exmh always goes back to inbox (which has no unseen\nmessages) rather than the next folder with unseen messages. (When I \ngoto next from inbox it does go where I would think it should go).\n\nJust wanted to let you know what I'm seeing and find out if I'm expecting\nsome different than I should be.\n\nThanks for all the effort\n\nJim\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n\n"
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["On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 09:54:04 EDT, \"J. W. Ballantine\" <jwb@homer.att.com> said:\n\n> First, when I try and run exmh with wish from tk8.4.0 it seems to take\n> forever to start, but with wish from tk8.a.4 it starts in a snap.\n\nThis sounds like something piggy in the 'flist' code - I'm seeing flist\nin general taking 5-10 seconds. Interesting that a different wish comes up\nfast, there might be a borkedness in 8.4.\n\n> Using the latest CVS, when I open exmh and the folder I'm in has unseen\n> messages and I hit next, exmh changes to the next folder with unseen messages\n> rather than to the first unseen in the current folder.\n\nHmm.. weirdness..\n\n> Finally, when I reach the end of the messages in a folder and go on to\n> the next unseen, exmh always goes back to inbox (which has no unseen\n> messages) rather than the next folder with unseen messages. (When I \n> goto next from inbox it does go where I would think it should go).\n\nI've been seeing this as well - *usually* with inbox, but it's gotten\nstuck on some other folders as well (I have procmail do rcvstore into folders\nfor me).\n-- \n\t\t\t\tValdis Kletnieks\n\t\t\t\tComputer Systems Senior Engineer\n\t\t\t\tVirginia Tech\n\n", "…"]
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"\nHi,\n\nsucceeded in ringing a bell anytime I get a mail\nto my inbox (Not Mailing lists, spams etc.) by\nusing procmail to execute a \"play clink.wav\" on\nthe \"right\" mails.\nNow my demands are growing ;-)\nI use my laptop remotely very often and now I would\nlike the bell to sound on that when I am there.\nI triedto use the KDE remote sound server and it works in\nthe tests, but when procmail runs it it doesn't, presumably\nas it doesn't have the authorization to communicate with\nthe laptop, beeing another user?\n\nAny hints.\n\nBRGDS\n\n\n-- \nDag Nygren email: dag@newtech.fi\nOy Espoon NewTech Ab phone: +358 9 8024910\nTräsktorpet 3 fax: +358 9 8024916\n02360 ESBO Mobile: +358 400 426312\nFINLAND\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n"
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["> From: \"J. W. Ballantine\" <jwb@homer.att.com>\n> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:51:31 -0400\n>\n> I CVS'ed the unseen/Sequences changes and installed them, and have only one \n> real issue.\n> \n> I use the unseen window rather than the exmh icon, and with the new code\n> I can't seem to be able to. How many unseen when when I have the main window open\n> is not really necessary.\n\nhmmm, I stole the code from unseenwin, but I never tested it since I don't use \nthat functionality. Consider it on my list of things to check.\n\nChris\n\n-- \nChris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/\nvirCIO http://www.virCIO.Com\n716 Congress, Suite 200\nAustin, TX 78701\t\t+1 512 374 0500\n\n World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers.\n\n\n\n", "…"]
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"\n\n\n> > > > Just cvs up'ed and nowadays Catch-up Unseen is __extremely__ slow on \n> > > > large (>100 msgs) unseen sequences. Anybody else having this problem?\n> > > \n> > > I'll take the blame.\n> > > \n> > > The reason, I suspect, is that we're needlessly reading the .sequences file \n> > > multiple times because of other sequences. I need to make the code much \n> > > smarter about handling that file, but first I have a few other fish to fry in \n> > > my rather large patch that's on it's way.\n> > > \n> > \n> > No panic,\n> > \n> > I'm all for cleaning things up before getting it optimized.\n> \n> Okay, this fix is now checked in.\n> \nI'm afraid it didn't help. It still seems to be slower than ~1 month \nago. Maybe slightly faster than yeasterday. I'm (still) seeing an \n\"unseen countdown\" in the log.\n\n18:51:25 Writing /home/ander/Mail/lists/l-k/.mh_sequences\n18:51:25 lists/l-k has 57 msgs in unseen\n18:51:25 lists/l-k has 56 msgs in unseen\n18:51:25 lists/l-k has 55 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 54 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 53 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 52 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 51 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 50 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 49 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 48 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 47 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 46 msgs in unseen\n18:51:26 lists/l-k has 45 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 44 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 43 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 42 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 41 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 40 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 39 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 38 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 37 msgs in unseen\n18:51:27 lists/l-k has 36 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 35 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 34 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 33 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 32 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 31 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 30 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 29 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 28 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 27 msgs in unseen\n18:51:28 lists/l-k has 26 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 25 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 24 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 23 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 22 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 21 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 20 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 19 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 18 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 17 msgs in unseen\n18:51:29 lists/l-k has 16 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 15 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 14 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 13 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 12 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 11 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 10 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 9 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 digits changed\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 8 msgs in unseen\n18:51:30 lists/l-k has 7 msgs in unseen\n18:51:31 lists/l-k has 6 msgs in unseen\n18:51:31 lists/l-k has 5 msgs in unseen\n18:51:31 lists/l-k has 4 msgs in unseen\n18:51:31 lists/l-k has 3 msgs in unseen\n18:51:31 lists/l-k has 2 msgs in unseen\n18:51:31 lists/l-k has 1 msgs in unseen\n18:51:31 lists/l-k has 0 msgs in unseen\n18:51:31 FlistUnseenFolder lists/l-k\n18:51:31 ok\n18:51:47 Folder_Change lists/exmh {Msg_Show cur}\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n"
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"Thanks Paul,\nThat is the way I am doing right now, but I would like to NOT use the mouse \nfor such things. Any other clue?\n\n-- \n\nSaludos,\nUlises\n\n Speaking words of wisdom ...\n\n\n> In a message dated: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:03:57 CDT\n> Ulises Ponce said:\n> \n> >Thanks Tony, but I think doing it using component files will get a .signature \n> >by default, but I have many diferent signatures and I want to insert one of \n> >that signatures using a keyboard command. So for a message I will insert a \n> >signature, but for another message I will insert a different signature.\n> >\n> >Is it possible? I am using sedit for my messages.\n> \n> Ahm, if you don't object to using a mouse for such things, exmh has \n> the ability to insert different sigs on demand. Create a bunch of \n> different sig files, all beginning with .signature, and at start up, \n> exmh will load them all. In the Sedit window, you'll see a Sign...\n> menu item which will allow you to select between each of the listed \n> .signature files for *that* e-mail. You can actually use several if \n> you'd like (though I don't remember what Preferences... option allows \n> for this).\n> \n> However, the signature gets added on send, not inserted directly into \n> the existing Sedit window prior to composition.\n> \n> I currently have 6 different sig files I can choose between.\n> \n> Additionally, if a .signature file has the execute bit turned on, \n> exmh will attempt to execute the file and use the stdout of the \n> script as your signature.\n> \n> I hope this helps some.\n> -- \n> \n> Seeya,\n> Paul\n> --\n> \tIt may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing,\n> but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away.\n> \n> \t If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> Exmh-users mailing list\n> Exmh-users@redhat.com\n> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n"
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"\n>>>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, \"Chris\" == Chris Garrigues wrote:\n\n Chris> --==_Exmh_267413022P Content-Type: text/plain;\n Chris> charset=us-ascii\n\n +> From: Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm> Date: Thu, 22 Aug\n +> 2002 20:23:17 +0200\n\n +> Oooops!\n\n +> Doesn't work at all. Got this on startup and on any attempt to\n +> change folde r (which fail)\n\n Chris> ~sigh~ I'd already found that and checked it in....apparently\n Chris> I did so after you checked it out and before you sent this\n Chris> mail...I hoped I was fast enough that you wouldn't see it.\n\n Chris> Try again!\n\n\nWorks like a charm. It's like the box was on drugs or something. \n\nHowever, while testing it a selected my favourite folder (l-k) and \nmarked ~400 messages unread. THAT took forever, or about as long as \nCatch-up Unseen did before. Any suggestions?\n\n/A\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\nExmh-workers@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n"
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"If you haven't already, you should enable the debug log under\nHacking Support preferences and look for clues there.\n\n>>>Reg Clemens said:\n > > Hi,\n > > \n > > On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 00:05:03 MDT Reg Clemens wrote: \n > > \n > > [...]\n > > > in messages with GnuPG signatures. But punching the line ALWAYS\n > > > gives\n > > > \n > > > Signature made Thu Aug 29 00:27:17 2002 MDT using DSA key ID BDD\n F997A\n > > > Can't check signature: public key not found\n > > > \n > > > So, something else is missing.\n > > \n > > Yes, the public key of the signature you want to check :-).\n > > \n > > Are you really sure that you have the public key of the message's\n > > signature? If not, try downloading it or try to check a signature from\n > > which you know you have the public key.\n > > \n > > \n > > \n > \n > Ah, sorry for not making that clearer.\n > But no.\n > Previously (v1.0.6 of GnuPG) there would be a slight pause at this point whi\n le\n > it went out to get the public key from a keyserver.\n > Now, whether I have the key or NOT, I get the failure message.\n > \n > Its as if it cant find gpg to execute it (but I fixed that path), so there\n > must be something else that I am missing...\n > \n > \n > -- \n > Reg.Clemens\n > reg@dwf.com\n > \n > \n > \n > \n > _______________________________________________\n > Exmh-users mailing list\n > Exmh-users@redhat.com\n > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n--\nBrent Welch\nSoftware Architect, Panasas Inc\nPioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network\nwww.panasas.com\nwelch@panasas.com\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n"
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"\nBTW: I remember messing about with such things long ago. One \nproblem I ran into was making sure that no attempt was made to \nplay a sound when either:\n\na) the screen was locked\n or\nb) no exmh was running.\n\nJust something to think about, Dag.\n\n\n--Hal\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n"
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"\n\n>>>>> On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, \"Jason\" == Jason Rennie wrote:\n\n Jason> My sysadmins have told me that the sending mail client\n Jason> is supposed to escape lines begining with \"From \".\n\nYour sysadmins are wrong.\n\nWhatever program that is used to store the mail into the \nbraindead \"mailbox\" file (/var/spool/mail/whatever) is supposed \nto escape a line that begins with From. That program is called \nthe local Mail Delivery Agent (MDA)\n\nIt would be better if you never, ever, stored your mail in a \n\"mailbox\" file.\n\nIf your sysadmins are capable of it, get them to set up the \nreceiving Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) to allow the use of procmail \nas the local MDA. Then use procmail to invoke rcvstore and \ndeliver your mail directly into your MH mail folders.\n\nMost Linux systems come configured this way, if a user has a\n$HOME/.procmail file then mail is delivered using procmail.\n\n\n--Hal\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n"
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["\nOn Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:43:32 EDT, Kevin Kenny writes:\n>> 3) You can learn to use procmail,\n\n>Can this be done via .forward?\n\nmake your .forward contain only the following line:\n\"|/usr/bin/procmail\"\n (incl. the quotes, your procmail binary may be in another path)\n\ncheers,\n&rw\n-- \n-- For a list of points detailing how technology\n-- has failed to improve our lives, please press 3. \n\n\n", "…"]
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"Hi All,\n\nDamian Conway is in Belfast this week. He will be giving two talks:\n\no Perl 6 - Tuesday, 3rd September, 7pm, Jury's, Belfast\no Quantum::Superpositions - Thursday, 5th September, 7pm, Jury's, Belfast\n\nHe is also doing training courses...\n http://www.kasei.com/training/damian/\n\nWesley.\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n"
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"Hi folks, I just uploaded RPMS of the new netatalk 1.5.5 released \nyesterday, thought folks here might be interested. This release fixes a \nnastygram in saving files via Illustrator that I personally have been \nwaiting for....\n\n http://ftp.falsehope.com/home/tengel/netatalk/\n\n(will be mirrored on rpmfind.net by tomorrow, usually).\n\n-te\n\n-- \nTroy Engel, Systems Engineer\nCool as the other side of the pillow\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Hi,\n\n> On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote:\n> \n> > INFO (15299: 0)gst_xml_registry_rebuild:1555: Plugin \n> > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so failed to load: Error loading plugin \n> > /usr/lib/gst/libgstwincodec.so, reason: /usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0: \n> > undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE\n\n> Are you using the same version of GCC to compile the plugin as its C++\n> dependencies?\n\nYes, I am. Everything is built inside a chroot. I think it isn't linking \nto a lib somewhere, I'm just not sure what lib it should preloading here. \nAnyway to find out which one it is ?\n\nThomas\n\n -- \n\nThe Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/\n<-*- -*->\nYou came in just like smoke\nWith a little come on come on \ncome on in your walk\ncome on\n<-*- thomas@apestaart.org -*->\nURGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Matthias,\n\nOn Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 09:28:26AM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> All freshrpms.net is now set for the imminent release of Red Hat Linux 8.0.\n\nthanks a lot for all your effords! It is just great!\n\n> I'll probably post to the list once I open up ftp.freshrpms.net so you can\n> be the first ones to get in and download, although I doubt you'll have\n> trouble finding access to at least one fast mirror using my mirror list.\n\nYou mean the mirror list for RH8.0, or do there exist mirrors for your apt\nrepo?\n\nOn Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 06:37:54PM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote: \n> I'll keep you all posted on Monday! They'll even be a big apt-related \n> surprise! ;-)))) \n\nWas this the surprise, or will there be even more (where are my heart pills)? ;)\n\nThanks Matthias!\n-- \nAxel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"I would appreciate it if you could get Gabber packages for Red Hat 8. I \nwill be making a new release soon, but even in the meantime, 0.8.7 \npackages would be ok.\n\nI know that in the beta, red hat was using a modified version of \ngnome-libs which is incompatible with the latest gnomemm. If this is \nstill the case in 8, I can send you a patch which makes gnomemm work \nagain...\n\nJulian\n\nOn Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 03:28 US/Eastern, Matthias Saou wrote:\n\n> Hi all,\n>\n> All freshrpms.net is now set for the imminent release of Red Hat Linux \n> 8.0.\n> The whole release process is a lot less secret as usual since there \n> have\n> been some leaks, including a mirror purposely wide open :-(\n>\n> See this article about the release and the leaks :\n> http://news.com.com/2100-1001-959434.html?tag=fd_top\n>\n> As it's no secret anymore, the files will be available today (morning \n> for\n> you Americans, afternoon for us Europeans), and to go with them, there \n> are\n> already quite a few freshrpms.net packages ready!\n>\n> Mirror list for download (they're not open yet) :\n> http://freshrpms.net/mirrors/psyche.html\n>\n> New freshrpms.net package list :\n> http://psyche.freshrpms.net/\n>\n> Of course, apt is also available (now version 0.5.4!) and fully \n> tested. If\n> you like apt for your desktop machines, I also recommend checking out \n> the\n> new \"synaptic\" package as it has now been ported to gtk+ and blends\n> perfectly into the distribution!\n>\n> I'll probably post to the list once I open up ftp.freshrpms.net so you \n> can\n> be the first ones to get in and download, although I doubt you'll have\n> trouble finding access to at least one fast mirror using my mirror \n> list.\n>\n> Have fun with Psyche!\n> Matthias\n>\n> -- \n> Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\n> Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\n> Load : 0.16 0.18 0.17\n>\n> _______________________________________________\n> RPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\n> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Hi.\n\nMatthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:\n> My main concern is that when rebuilding the recent packages I've made\n> for Psyche on Valhalla, I'd need to lower the \"Release:\" tag (to keep an\n> upgrade working), and that would f*ck up my CVS repository which is on\n> my Valhalla box\n\nSorry, I don't get it. What's wrong with a release tag of fr1?\n\n-- \nDo I look like a freakin' people person?\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, Ralf wrote :\n\n> Matthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:\n> > My main concern is that when rebuilding the recent packages I've made\n> > for Psyche on Valhalla, I'd need to lower the \"Release:\" tag (to keep\n> > an upgrade working), and that would f*ck up my CVS repository which is\n> > on my Valhalla box\n> \n> Sorry, I don't get it. What's wrong with a release tag of fr1?\n\nSay you have installed synaptic-0.24-fr1 on your Valhalla box (package\nrebuilt for Valhalla). Then you upgrade to Psyche using the Red Hat CDs.\nHopefully with the compat libraries the package will still be there\n(although I doubt that since C++ is binary incompatible, so this is\nprobably a bad example), then you \"apt-get update\" with the new Psyche\nrepository... and there's where the problem will be : It will say that\nthere are two synaptic-0.24-fr1 packages (one installed, the other\navailable) with the same version but different dependencies :-/\nThat's why I always keep package versions lower for older distributions.\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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">>>Hal DeVore said:\n > \"Brent said in his book\"\n > This Paste function can be convenient, but it turns out that\n > users still need to keep track of the difference between the\n > two selections. If a user only understands the CLIPBOARD,\n > then the user of PRIMARY is only surprising. I learned that\n > it is best to have a separate paste user action for the two\n > selections. The convention is that <ButtonRelease-2> sets\n > the insert point and inserts the PRIMARY selection. ... The\n > <<Paste>> event (e.g., the Paste key) simply inserts the\n > CLIPBOARD selection at the current insert point. ...\n\nYeah, I learned by hearing exmh users scream in agony. Sorry about\nall that. We should be able to clean this up. If you grep for\n\"bind\" in seditBind you quickly find the Text_Selection proc\nI described in the previous email.\n\n--\nBrent Welch\nSoftware Architect, Panasas Inc\nPioneering the World's Most Scalable and Agile Storage Network\nwww.panasas.com\nwelch@panasas.com\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-users mailing list\nExmh-users@redhat.com\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-users\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, Mark wrote :\n\n> I remember apt-get dist-upgrading from 7.2 to 7.3 fine, so it -should- \n> work, maybe :)\n\nI've done that too, on many production servers. The only little\n(unimportant) catch is to replace \"kernel-headers\" by \"glibc-kernheaders\",\na simple \"apt-get install glibc-kernheaders\" taking care of that.\n\nUpgrading between releases is meant to work, not between betas or beta and\nreleases. The reason is simple : Some packages may have been downgraded,\nsome others may have been rebuilt with the same versions but different\ndependencies. For both these categories of packages, the upgrade through\napt/rhn/whatever just won't do, as some older packages might be considered\nas the newest, thus being kept on the system.\n\nAs Red Hat does, I really don't recommend trying to upgrade between betas\nor from a beta to a final release either. Simply backup your /home, /etc\n(and /root and/or /usr/local/ if needed) then reinstall cleanly, it'll\nprobably save a few hassles and you'll get the cleanest possible system ;-)\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nMatthias Saou World Trade Center\n------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\nSystem and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\nElectronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Matthias Saou (matthias@egwn.net) wrote*:\n>As Red Hat does, I really don't recommend trying to upgrade between betas\n>or from a beta to a final release either. Simply backup your /home, /etc\n>(and /root and/or /usr/local/ if needed) then reinstall cleanly, it'll\n>probably save a few hassles and you'll get the cleanest possible system ;-)\n>\n\nI think this is probably the best way, because I think (maybe) with upgrading you\ndo not always automatically get the latest feature enabled in some config file\nbecause RH would rather take it easy and not update that config file (you get a\nrpmnew instead of rpmsaved file) so they get less calls to support that way.\n\nAnyway, I have tons of media files in /home/* probably 5 to 10 gigs at least, my\nlaptop's CDROM takes 700MB at a time (obviously) and compressing media files is\ndumb because they are already compressed. Dumb question: how to backup huge data?\nNetwork backup to another box? I do not have a box with a tape drive, but maybe box\nwith a large HD with much free space could take the backup (oops, I do not have a\nspace computer with a large HD with much free space).\n\nThese media files are backed up - ON THE CD'S THEY CAME FROM! Yes I learned that\nused CDs make inexpensive backup copy on the shelf. I do not want to re-rip all\nthis crap again.\n\n--\nThat's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, Ben wrote :\n\n> I use a mostly Red Hat 8.0 system, but prefer to configure and build my \n> kernel by hand. I'd like to humbly offer a tweak to alsa-driver.spec \n> that helps it build cleanly under such circumstances. I recognize that \n> freshrpms.net packages are designed with standard Red Hat in mind, \n> including a standard kernel RPM. However, I hope that Matthias will \n> consider the tweak small enough to justify its incorporation.\n\nWell, I don't really find it consistent at all to use an rpm package built\nagainst something that wasn't installed through rpm :-/\n\nWhat I'd recommend in your case : You should keep at least one original Red\nHat Linux kernel (you do just in case, right? ;-)) and install the matching\nalsa-kernel package as you'll need at least one because of the\ndependencies. Then for your custom built kernel, simply \"./configure\n--with-cards=all && make && make install DESTDIR=/tmp/alsa-driver\" from the\nalsa-driver sources then as root copy all the modules under\n/tmp/alsa-driver/lib/modules/ to your modules dir and run \"depmod -a\".\n\nOf course you can even make it much faster by not compiling all un-needed\ndrivers, as I guess that's one of the reasons one would rebuild his own\nkernel.\n\nI find this the easiest and cleanest way to get around the problem. It's\nwhat I've done and what I'll keep doing on my laptop where I'm running a\nkernel recompiled with ACPI.\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.00 0.02 0.00\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Matthias Saou wrote:\n> Well, I don't really find it consistent at all to use an rpm package\n> built against something that wasn't installed through rpm :-/\n\nOh well. Fair enough.\n\n> What I'd recommend in your case [...]\n\nUgh, way too much manual labor. :-)\n\nWhat I've done instead is to create a tiny little \"kernel.spec\" that\ninstalls no files but claims to produce a kernel package having version\nnumber `uname -r` for architecture `uname -p`. It also claims to\nprovide kernel-sources at the same version. That is enough to make\nalsa-driver.spec happy, and at least forms a reasonable representation\nof what my homemade kernel provides to the system. I should have\nthought of this approach sooner.\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:53:24 +0200, Matthias Saou <matthias@egwn.net> wrote:\n\n> > Anyway, I have returned to Redhat 7.3 on my root filesystem (saved my\n> > home directories, music and games on other partitions) and while I\n> > have the 8.0 stuff in the list, everything I want to upgrade requires\n> > 200+ RPMs.\n\n Yeah, but I try to 'take it easy' on your server. The golden rule of the internet: when you find a free resource, don't piss'em off! :) I really appreciate your work; you get done the things I wish I could, and I respect that.\n\n> Anyway, although I'd easily recommend upgrading 7.x to 7.3 using apt, I\n> wouldn't for 7.x to 8.0 as they are C++ binary incompatible... and apt is\n> entirely written in C++ and dynamically linked :-/\n\n OK, I'll search for the ISOs on the one remaining site that isn't hammered. :)\n \n> Still, that doesn't explain a core dump :-(\n\n Sure: this is a linking issue, right? Right now I'm still pure-vanilla. I have the stock version of rpm/rpmlib/popt/etc and the recommended version of apt that you gave me. No, wait...there's no new code getting loaded. I don't know, either. It's been a long day.\n\n> > What's the inside secret here, or do I just start searching mirrors\n> > for the ISO and get over it?\n> \n> Why \"search\"? There's more than enough to choose from here :\n> http://freshrpms.net/mirrors/psyche.html\n\n The hunt continues- with a new field! (Actually I checked there yesterday, but it's worth another shot.)\n\n Thanks!\n \n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBrian Fahrländer Linux Zealot, Conservative, and Technomad\nEvansville, IN My Voyage: http://www.CounterMoon.com\nICQ 5119262\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nJust machines, to make big decisions- programmed by fellas with\ncompassion and vision. We'll be clean when that work is done;\nEternally free and eternally young. Linux.\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, Gary wrote :\n\n> On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:09:19AM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> > Well, I don't really find it consistent at all to use an rpm package\n> > built against something that wasn't installed through rpm :-/\n> \n> Following that reasoning, I've been installing all my custom-built\n> kernels through rpm recently. I find it annoying, though, that \n> alsa-kernel, and similar packages, will only build for the currently \n> running kernel.\n> \n> So I've attached a patch to specify an alternate kernel by setting the\n> \"TARGET_KERNEL\" environment variable before running rpmbuild. You\n> still need to have the rpm for the specified kernel installed, but at\n> least it doesn't have to be currently running. It's kinda hackish, so\n> if someone has a better way to do this, let me know.\n\nThat idea looks good although it maybe needs to be tweaked a bit more (what\nyou sent doesn't support packages named \"kernel-smp\"). I'd also prefer a\ncleaner way than the env variable, and preferrably not editing the spec...\nprobably \"--define 'target 2.4.xx-xx' --with smp\". Sound good enough?\nThe BuildRequires on \"kernel-source\" will also need to be removed because\nit won't necessarily need to be true, and that does bug me a bit :-/\n\nMore ideas are welcome.\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.08 0.06 0.03\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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" >> > Well, I don't really find it consistent at all to use an rpm package\n >> > built against something that wasn't installed through rpm :-/\n >>\n >> Following that reasoning, I've been installing all my custom-built\n >> kernels through rpm recently. I find it annoying, though, that\n >> alsa-kernel, and similar packages, will only build for the currently\n >> running kernel.\n >>\n >> So I've attached a patch to specify an alternate kernel by setting the\n >> \"TARGET_KERNEL\" environment variable before running rpmbuild. You\n >> still need to have the rpm for the specified kernel installed, but at\n >> least it doesn't have to be currently running. It's kinda hackish, so\n >> if someone has a better way to do this, let me know.\n >\n >That idea looks good although it maybe needs to be tweaked a bit more (what\n >you sent doesn't support packages named \"kernel-smp\"). I'd also prefer a\n >cleaner way than the env variable, and preferrably not editing the spec...\n >probably \"--define 'target 2.4.xx-xx' --with smp\". Sound good enough?\n >The BuildRequires on \"kernel-source\" will also need to be removed because\n >it won't necessarily need to be true, and that does bug me a bit :-/\n\n\tMe and my kernel rpm builds ... this all works along the same idea I have \nbeen aiming for, but the freaking RedHat Kernel srpms still have been stump \n...\n\n\tIf we could get this and the alsa driver stuff working, it would be whole \nlot easier to try out a newer kernel ... but then the size of these rpms \nare huge, at least for us n^1 world courties ... ;-{ ...\n\n\tI will keep watching and hoping that somebody comes up with a great working \nidea ...\n\nThanks guys.\nMailed\nLee\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Hi,\n\nhow about applying this to the default apt.conf shipped with the\nfreshrpms.net apt package? I found it a bit weird when the behaviour\nchanged between the old 0.3.x and the new 0.5.x versions so that when\ndoing a \"apt-get upgrade\", it wouldn't tell me *which* packages were to\nbe upgraded, just that it was about to upgrade something...\n\n--- apt.conf\t2002-09-27 14:58:28.000000000 +0300\n+++ apt.conf\t2002-10-03 21:38:05.000000000 +0300\n@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@\n Get \n {\n Download-Only \"false\";\n+ Show-Upgraded \"true\";\n };\n \n };\n\n-- \n\\/ille Skyttä\nville.skytta at iki.fi\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 03:25:30 +0200\nVincent <cult@free.fr> wrote:\n\n# If I get troubles with the .tar.gz source file compilation, will it\n# work with the .src.rpm source file compilation ?\n# If it will, how do I manage with a .src.rpm file, sorry, I don't\n# remeber :(\n\nThe .src.rpm will prompt you for what packages you need to complete\nthe compile.\n\nrpmbuild --rebuild --target=$arch file.src.rpm\n\n-- \nJesse Keating\nj2Solutions.net\nMondo DevTeam (www.mondorescue.org)\n\nWas I helpful? Let others know:\n http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Matthias Saou wrote:\n\n>Once upon a time, Roi wrote :\n>\n> \n>\n>>Since I upgraded to redhat8 mplayer -vo sdl isnt working for me\n>>It gives me black screen and I only hear sound.\n>>\n>>can anyone help me with this ?\n>> \n>>\n>\n>I'll test this as soon as I can.\n>\n> \n>\n>>btw,\n>>also the source rpm specified that I can do --without libdv\n>>but it didn't work, worked for lirc and arts.\n>> \n>>\n>\n>Should be fixed : You probably had libdv-devel installed and MPlayer\n>automatically detected it. The new spec file explicitely passes\n>--disable-libdv when the package is rebuilt with --without libdv.\n>\n>Grab the \"fr2.1\" spec from here :\n>http://freshrpms.net/builds/index.html?build=mplayer\n>\n>Matthias\n>\n> \n>\nThe new spec didn't even want to build the package\nsomething with config.mak\nAlso this new spec looks like the old one, it got libdv and libdv-devel\nin the BuildRequires so I just used the normal spec and removed it manully.\n\nRoi\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, Roi wrote :\n\n> The new spec didn't even want to build the package\n> something with config.mak\n\nNow that is weird! :-/\n\n> Also this new spec looks like the old one, it got libdv and libdv-devel\n> in the BuildRequires so I just used the normal spec and removed it\n> manully.\n\nIndeed, my boo-boo :-( Fixed now.\n\nBTW, about the \"mplayer -vo sdl\" black screen problem you reported, I was\nunable to reproduce it on my hom 8.0 computer, it worked as expected.\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.10 0.15 0.16, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (1:47)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, Brian wrote :\n\n> \n> I have a fresh, new 8.0 install. I'd like to 'go alsa', but I worry\n> about screwing it up. Is this fear founded? If I could get Alsa, I\n> could run a bunch of games I've been waiting for years to come\n> out...like Search & Rescue (available on a Mandrake RPM) and maybe\n> FlightGear (flight simulator).\n\nWell, I'm sure you can recompile those game packages without ALSA anyway.\nAlso, note that ALSA 0.9.x has just appeared in Mandrake 9.0 and that all\nprevious Mandrake releases were using the incompatible, aging and now\nunsupported 0.5.x series. (unless I've misunderstood)\n\n> How much 'hacking' is likely required to make it work for an\n> SBLive/emu10k1 soundcard?\n\nNear to none, it should be quite straightforward :\nhttp://freshrpms.net/docs/alsa/\n\nThe only tricky part is editing the /etc/modules.conf file, but the ALSA\nSoundcard Matrix has a page for every supported card with a section you can\nmost of the time simply copy and paste!\n\nI really think that with my ALSA packages, ALSA on Red Hat Linux has never\nbeen so easy! ;-)\n\nCheers,\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.00 0.07 0.17, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (1:47)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"On a RH 8 box, I'm trying to install your package\nxine-0.9.13-fr5.i386.rpm, I keep running into dependency problems. I've\ntried to install the dev and lib rpm's as well and they error out with\ndependency problems on each other (they each want something from the\nother's package).\n\nI've tried the --without options, but still end up with (similar for the\nregular package),\n\n\tglut is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n aalib is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n lirc is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n libaa.so.1 is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n libglut.so.3 is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n\nWhat am I missing here?\n\nThanks for your efforts.\nQuaffAPint\n\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, QuaffA wrote :\n\n> I've tried the --without options, but still end up with (similar for the\n> regular package),\n> \n> \tglut is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n\nYou need to install the \"glut\" package from Red Hat Linux 8.0 (and\n\"glut-devel\" if you intend to recompile the source rpm).\n\n> aalib is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n> lirc is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n> libaa.so.1 is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n> libglut.so.3 is needed by xine-libs-0.9.13-fr5\n\nHere you need both \"aalib\" and \"lirc\" from freshrpms.net. They're small,\nthey can be quite useful, that's why I've compiled xine with them as a\ndefault.\nYou should be able to get rid of those two though, by rebuilding the source\nrpm (otherwise it's a bug in my packaging!) :\nrpmbuild --rebuild --without aalib --without lirc xine*.src.rpm\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.06 0.13 0.09, AC on-line, battery charging: 100% (1:47)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Thanks Matthias...After installing those packages Xine now installs\nfine. Guess I shoulda figured that one out...\n\nThanks...\nQuaffAPint\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Same as in mplayer src package\nthe --with and --without not working correctly\nI do --without arts and it still want to install with arts\n\nRoi\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Hi,\n\nIn my build scripts, I have problems with some of the kernel packages.\n\nFor kernel-sources, I get :\n\nPackage kernel-source is a virtual package provided by:\n kernel-source#2.4.18-3 2.4.18-3\n kernel-source#2.4.18-3 2.4.18-3\n\non running apt-get install kernel-source\n\nNow, first of all, this doesn't really tell me what the two options are ;)\nSecond, is there some way I can tell apt-get to install either ? This is \ndone from automatic build scripts so I'd like it to proceed anyway.\n\nThanks,\nThomas\n\n-- \n\nThe Dave/Dina Project : future TV today ! - http://davedina.apestaart.org/\n<-*- -*->\nI'm alive.\nI can tell because of the pain.\n<-*- thomas@apestaart.org -*->\nURGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 19:36, Matthias Saou wrote:\n\n> > Eek. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that's a good idea. \n> > Outputting a message in %post and providing a README of some kind would\n> > be better, as well as perhaps adding a note in %description.\n> \n> Why \"Eek\"? :-)\n> If no /dev/dvd exists, it'll create it.\n> If /dev/dvd exists, it won't touch it.\n\nI assume that you won't %ghost or remove these and the modules.conf\nchange on uninstall, though. So people who are installing this RPM and\nare unfortunate enough to have a DVD drive (or just an ordinary CD,\nnon-DVD drive) that doesn't support DMA will be left with a system\nwithout a working CD drive, even after removing the RPM. And without\never knowing what struck them. You can't remove the DMA setting from\nmodules.conf either unless you're sure that ogle added it there and\nnothing else needs it.\n\nThe /dev stuff isn't that dangerous, but the modules.conf change can\nbe. That's why \"Eek\" :)\n\n> If someone installs ogle (a DVD player), I'm assuming the hardware is\n> recent enough for software playback and that the drive is a DVD-ROM... all\n> of them support DMA! But since that change requires a reboot or a manual\n> change, I'm still hesitating to integrate it :-/\n\nA worthy goal...\n\n> My goal is to allow users to install a DVD player through synaptic and play\n> DVDs in no time. Outputting a message in the %post section of a package is\n> always a bad idea, putting the tip in the %description sounds good though.\n\nHow about splitting the creation of the symlinks and modules.conf\nmodifications into a separate RPM?\n\n-- \n\\/ille Skyttä\nville.skytta at iki.fi\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, Jesse wrote :\n\n> When I worked as a PC repair tech for a Computer store chain, I did\n> run across quite a few DVD drives that would lock up if DMA was\n> enabled. It's more of a chipset/drive problem than a Drive by itself.\n\nChipset? Let me guess : VIA or SiS? :-))))\nOK, so I'll follow Red Hat's choice of leaving the DMA setting alone and\norienting the users to some page explaining how to enable it \"at your own\nrisk\" ;-)\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.03 0.09 0.10\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"I've put up a new Red Hat Linux 8.0 build of nessus here :\nhttp://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/testing/nessus/\n\nIt's 100% untested, although the build should be ok. The new menu was\nadded, but some configuration files may be better with new or different\ndefaults.\n\nFeedback is very welcome!\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.06 0.12 0.17\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"humberto@hpcf.upr.edu wrote:\n\n>Redhat 8 disables all support for .mp3 files, relinking xmms with a zzmp3 \n>module. Does anyone have a fixed spec file for xmms? One that can play mp3's \n>would be best.\n>\n> \n>\noh xmms didn't work for me also\ni used mpg123 i tought its something from me\nlike mplayer not working also and gives black screen\n\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Thanks Matthias. Actually I got all four speakers with subwoofer\nworking in digital out mode with gamixer.\n(http://www1.tcnet.ne.jp/fmurata/linux/down/)\n\nHowever switching between analog and digital, I'm still baffled. As I\nhave a tuner and cassette deck hooked up to \"Line In\" on a SBLive! 5.1,\nwhich is in analog mode. But digital out works great now!\n\nOn Wed, 2002-08-28 at 23:26, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> Once upon a time, Lance wrote :\n> \n> > Ok, I got ALSA installed and there is no static inbetween mp3s like\n> > before which is great! My setup is digital 4.1 but sound is only coming\n> > from front 2 speakers and subwoofer, rear speakers there is no sound. \n> > Also alsamixer or aumix are unresponsive as well. \n> \n> Maybe you could find more info or tips on the ALSA page for your card?\n> Also, you could try \"alsactl store\", editing /etc/asound.state\" by hand\n> (for me it contains data similar to what I can control with \"alsamixer\")\n> then run \"alsactl restore\" and see if you're able to change what you want\n> that way.\n> \n> Matthias\n> \n> -- \n> Matthias Saou World Trade Center\n> ------------- Edificio Norte 4 Planta\n> System and Network Engineer 08039 Barcelona, Spain\n> Electronic Group Interactive Phone : +34 936 00 23 23\n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> RPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\n> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n-- \n:\n####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]###########################\n\nSub : Finding out files larger than given size LOST #324\n\nTo find out all files in a dir over a given size, try:\nfind /path/to/dir_of_file -type f -size +Nk\n[Where N is a number like 1024 for 1mb, and multiples thereof] \n\n####[Discussions on LIH : 04 Jul 2002]########################\n:\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n"
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"I know this is simple but do you have /usr/src/linux and\n/usr/src/linux-2.4 symlinked to your kernel source directory? Also is\nthere a .config in /usr/src/yourkernelsource/.config ?\n\nOn Fri, 2002-08-30 at 21:56, Ben Liblit wrote:\n> I am trying to rebuild the recently posted ALSA driver package for my \n> kernel. Although I run Red Hat 7.3, I am not using a Red Hat kernel \n> package: my kernel is lovingly downloaded, configured, and built by \n> hand. Call me old fashioned.\n> \n> Sadly, the RPM rebuild fails part way through:\n> \n> % rpm --rebuild alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3-fr6.src.rpm\n> \n> gcc -DALSA_BUILD -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE=1 \\\n> -I/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3/include \\\n> -I/lib/modules/2.4.18/build/include -O2 \\\n> -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -DLINUX -Wall \\\n> -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -DEXPORT_SYMTAB \\\n> -c sound.c\n> \n> sound.c:41: `snd_hack_usb_set_interface' undeclared here (not in a \\\n> function)\n> \n> sound.c:41: initializer element is not constant\n> \n> sound.c:41: (near initialization for \\\n> __ksymtab_snd_hack_usb_set_interface.value')\n> \n> make[1]: *** [sound.o] Error 1\n> \n> The line in question looks like this:\n> \n> \t/* USB workaround */\n> \t#if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2, 5, 24)\n> \t#if defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO) || \\\n> \tdefined(CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO_MODULE) || \\\n> \tdefined(CONFIG_SND_USB_MIDI) || \\\n> \tdefined(CONFIG_SND_USB_MIDI_MODULE)\n> -41-> \n> EXPORT_SYMBOL(snd_hack_usb_set_interface);\n> \t#endif\n> \t#endif\n> \n> Any suggestions?\n> \n> \n> _______________________________________________\n> RPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\n> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n-- \n:\n####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]###########################\n\nSub : Finding out files larger than given size LOST #324\n\nTo find out all files in a dir over a given size, try:\nfind /path/to/dir_of_file -type f -size +Nk\n[Where N is a number like 1024 for 1mb, and multiples thereof] \n\n####[Discussions on LIH : 04 Jul 2002]########################\n:\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n"
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"David Neary said:\n>\n> For the francophones among you, this article is a summary of the\n> reasons why most free software licences (and the GPL in\n> particular) are not valid in France.\n>\n> http://www.linuxfrench.net/article.php3?id_article=1043\n>\n> Google translation (hard to read most of the time, but good\n> enough to pick up the gist)\n>\n> http://makeashorterlink.com/?U26B52602\n>\n> In brief, in an international contract, when mentioning copyright, you\n> must mention under which jurisdiction's laws the copyright\n> is applied. French law requires the licence to be available in\n> French (the GPL isn't). And French law requires that for a\n> contract to be valid, it must not breach existing law. Also under\n> French law, the copyright holder automatically retains the right\n> to change the licence, which means that French law is in conflict\n> with the GPL, which requires authorisation from all authors\n> before a licence change is allowed.\n>\n> Also there's some stuff about French consumer law forbidding sale\n> without guarantee of anything, so software delivered as-is\n> breaches consumer law in France. But I didn't really follow that.\n\nMy French is a bit iffy these days, but if this is true, does it not also\nnullify Microsoft, Adobe and WinZip licences amongst most others? These all\nclaim no liability, no guarantees (M$ say delivered \"with all faults\", so\nat least they are honest).\n\n/Ciaran.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: ilug@linux.ie\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: listmaster@linux.ie\n\n\n"
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"Once upon a time, Roi wrote :\n\n> oh xmms didn't work for me also\n> i used mpg123 i tought its something from me\n\nNope, this is \"normal\" as Red Hat removed all mp3 support from 8.0 because\nof patent and royalty issues :-(\nOn freshrpms.net, you can find the xmms mp3 plugin as I said, but also\nlibmad, lame (mp3 encoder), and soon mpg321 as I often used it myself.\nMany other players can also play mp3 files, like alsaplayer, xine, mplayer.\n\n> like mplayer not working also and gives black screen\n\nThis is not normal though...\nTry \"mplayer -vo help\" then try usinf various output methods to see if some\ndo work or not.\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.00 0.05 0.01\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Matthias Saou (matthias@rpmforge.net) wrote*:\n>\n>You can also install the XMMS plugin\n>(seems to make my XMMS segfault on exit...\n>hmmm, but maybe it's another plugin) to listen to your good ol' mp3\n>files... that's it!\n\nI've an XMMS Alsa module I've been using for a while now at:\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/alsa-xmms-0.9_cvs020630-aap1.i686.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/alsa-xmms-0.9_cvs020630-aap1.src.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/alsa-xmms-0.9_cvs020630.spec\n\nAlso there is alsaplayer rpms there too:\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/alsaplayer-0.99.71-aap1.i386.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/alsaplayer-0.99.71-aap1.i686.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/alsaplayer-0.99.71-aap1.src.rpm\nhttp://www.dudex.net/rpms/alsaplayer-0.99.71.spec\n\nGood luck. Both were build on an RH 7.3 box with errata current as of the date of\nthe build. I'm running (null) RH beta now and I recall that alsa-xmms still works, I\ncan not remember if alsaplayer needs a --rebuild.\n\nAs an aside, alsaplayer is really maturing into a versitile app, I've been packaging\nfor many releases now.\n\nI've scripted the alsa-xmms cvs build, so it's easy to spin another one if these\nrpms do not work on (null).\n\n--\nThat's \"angle\" as in geometry.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n"
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"\nI've also just tried doing rpm --rebuilddb, no change.\n\nA question:\n\nDo these files look too small? \n\nroot@canarsie:/var/cache/apt # ls -ltr\ntotal 148\ndrwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 29 10:49 gensrclist\ndrwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 29 10:49 genpkglist\ndrwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Oct 8 19:59 archives\n-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 49863 Oct 9 15:25 srcpkgcache.bin\n-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158131 Oct 9 15:25 pkgcache.bin\n\n\nI ran strings on them, and it doesn't look like I see a complete listing\nof either my system's installed RPMs, or the rpms in the lists:\n\nroot@canarsie:/var/state/apt/lists # ls -s\ntotal 9988\n 416 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_pkglist.freshrpms\n8704 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_pkglist.os\n 0 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_pkglist.updates\n 4 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_release.freshrpms\n 4 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_release.os\n 4 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_release.updates\n 64 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_srclist.freshrpms\n 788 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_srclist.os\n 0 apt.freshrpms.net_redhat_8.0_en_i386_base_srclist.updates\n 0 lock\n 4 partial\n\n\nIf I kill them, they get recreated about the same size next time I run\napt-get..\n\n-SteveK\n\n\nOn Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 08:01:48PM -0400, Steve Kann wrote:\n> \n> I posted about this last week, and I'm still stumped. apt-get is just\n> not working for me, and I can't figure out what the problem is.\n> \n> I've tried removing the apt rpms, making sure to remove any traces left\n> behind (/etc/apt /var/state/apt /var/cache/apt), and still, I get\n> \"couldn't find package xmms-mp3\" when running \"apt-get install xmms-mp3\".\n> \n> Any clues? Here's a log of a fresh try:\n> \n> root@canarsie:/tmp # rpm -e apt apt-devel\n> root@canarsie:/tmp # rm -rf /etc/apt /var/cache/apt /var/state/apt\n> root@canarsie:/tmp # rpm -ivh apt-0.5.4cnc7-fr1.i386.rpm apt-devel-0.5.4cnc7-fr1.i386.rpm\n> warning: apt-0.5.4cnc7-fr1.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID\n> e42d547b\n> Preparing... ########################################### [100%]\n> 1:apt ########################################### [ 50%]\n> 2:apt-devel ########################################### [100%]\n> root@canarsie:/tmp # apt-get update\n> Ign http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386 release\n> Get:1 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/os pkglist [1276kB]\n> Get:2 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/os release [108B]\n> Get:3 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/updates pkglist [14B]\n> Get:4 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/updates release [113B]\n> Get:5 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/freshrpms pkglist\n> [57.1kB]\n> Get:6 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/freshrpms release\n> [125B]\n> Get:7 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/os srclist [152kB]\n> Get:8 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/updates srclist [14B]\n> Get:9 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/freshrpms srclist\n> [14.4kB]\n> Fetched 1500kB in 11s (125kB/s)\n> Reading Package Lists... Done\n> root@canarsie:/tmp # apt-get install xmms-mp3\n> Reading Package Lists... Done\n> Building Dependency Tree... Done\n> E: Couldn't find package xmms-mp3\n> root@canarsie:/tmp # apt-cache search xmms\n> root@canarsie:/tmp #\n> \n> \n> Beats me..\n> \n> -SteveK\n> \n> \n> \n> -- \n> Steve Kann - Chief Engineer - 520 8th Ave #2300 NY 10018 - (212) 533-1775\n> HorizonLive.com - collaborate . interact . learn\n> \"The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed Linux.\"\n\n-- \n Steve Kann - Chief Engineer - 520 8th Ave #2300 NY 10018 - (212) 533-1775\n HorizonLive.com - collaborate . interact . learn\n \"The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed Linux.\"\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"Should I expect problems if my apt server is running RH 7.3/Apt 0.3 and\nsome clients are coming on line and will be running RH 8.0/Apt 0.5? Do\nthe two different version interoperate?\n\nThanks,\n\ntjb\n-- \n=======================================================================\n| Thomas Baker email: tjb@unh.edu |\n| Systems Programmer |\n| Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 |\n| University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 |\n| 332 Morse Hall |\n| Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb |\n=======================================================================\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"BlogStart: \n\n**Dublin**: something from the archives. Daev Walsh forwards an article from\nThe Irish Digest about ''Billy in the Bowl''. This story is also immortalised\nin an old Dublin song, which in turn was mentioned in a Pogues track. Billy\nwas a legless beggar in the alleys of Stoneybatter and Grangegorman (where I\nnow live) during the 18th century, who discovered a new, but not entirely\nlegal, way to make money.\n\nBlogEnd: \nLinkText: Billy in the Bowl\n\nFrom: daev <hellshaw@fringeware.com>\nSubject: The Case of the Stoneybatter Strangler\n\nA story of my new neighbourhood...\n\n\nThe Irish Digest July 1964\n\n\nThe Case of the Stoneybatter Strangler\n\nThe handsome, deformed Billy in the Bowl evolved a plan to rob his donors.\nThen, one night, he made the biggest mistake of his life \n\nDUBLIN in the eighteenth century was noted for two things - the\narchitectural beauty of its public buildings and the large number of\nbeggars who sought alms in its maze of streets and lanes. Many of these\nbeggars relied on visitors and the gentry for their coin, but there was one\nwho campaigned among the working class. This was \"Billy In The Bowl\"\n\nThe strange appellation was derived from the fact that Billy's sole means\nof transport was a large bowl-shaped car with wheels. Seated in this \"\nbowl \", the beggar would propel himself along by pushing against the ground\nwith wooden plugs, one in each hand.\n\nBilly's unusual means of conveyance was vitally necessary, as he had been\nborn without legs. Nature, however, had compensated for this by endowing\nhim with powerful arms and shoulders and, what was most important, an\nunusually handsome face.\n\nThis was Billy's greatest asset in his daily routine of separating\nsympathetic passers-by from their small change.\n\nThe cunning young beggar would wait at a convenient spot on one of the many\nlonely roads or lanes which were a feature of eighteenth century\nGrangegorman and Stoneybatter, until a servant girl or an old lady would\ncome along.\n\nHe would then put on is most attractive smile which, together with his\nblack curly hair, never failed to halt the females. The fact that such a\nhandsome young man was so terribly handicapped physically always evoked pity.\n\n\"Billy in the Bowl\", however, wasn't satisfied with becoming the daily\nowner of a generous number of small coins; what his greed demanded were\nsubstantial sums of money. The more he managed to get the more he could\nindulge in his pet vices - gambling and drinking.\n\nAs a result the beggar evolved a plan to rob unsuspecting sympathisers.\nThe first time lie put his plan into operation was on a cold March evening\nas dusk, was falling. The victim was a middle aged woman who was passing\nthrough Grangegorman Lane on her way to visit friends in Queen Street - on\nDublin's North Quays.\n\nWhen Billy heard the woman's footsteps, he hid behind some bushes in a\nditch which skirted the lane. As his unsuspecting victim drew close, the\nbeggar moaned and shouted, and cried out for help.\n\nTrembling with excitement, the woman dashed to the spot where Billy lay\nconcealed. She bent down to help the beggar out of the ditch, when two\npowerful arms closed around her throat and pulled her into the bushes.\n\nIn a few minutes it was all over. The woman lay in a dead faint, and Billy\nwas travelling at a fast rate down the lane in his \" bowl \", his victirn's\npurse snug in his coat pocket. An hour after the robbery the woman was\nfound in a distracted condition, but failed to give a description of her\nassailant. And, as \"Billy in the Bowl\" had figured, nobody would suspect a\ndeformed beggar.\n\nAgain and again the beggar carried out his robbery plan, always shifting\nthe place of attack to a different part of Grangegorman or Stoneybatter.\n\nOn one occasion \" Billy in \"the Bowl \" tried his tactics on a sturdy\nservant girl who put up such a vigorous resistance that he was forced to\nstrangle her. The incident became known as the 11 Grangegorman Lane Murder\nand caused a great stir.\n\nHundred.s flocked to the scene of the crime and for a couple of months\n\"Billy in the Bowl\" was forced to desert his usual haunts. Around this\nperiod, Dublin's first-ever police force was been mobilised, and the first\ncase they were confronted with was the Grangegorman lane murder.\n\nMonths passed and \"Billy in the Bowl\" reverted once again to his old\npasttime. A number of young servant girls were lured into ditches and\nrobbed, and the police were inundated with so many complaints that a\nnightly patrol was placed on the district. But the beggar still rolled\nalong in his \"bowl\" pitied and unsuspected. Then came the night that\nfinished Billy's career of crime.\n\nTwo stoudy built female cooks, trudging back to their places of employment\nafter a night out in the city, were surprised and not a little shocked to\nhear shouts for help. Rushing over, they came upon a huddled figure in the\nditch.\n\nBilly, thinking there was only one woman, grabbed one of the cooks and\ntried to pull her into the ditch. She proved much too strong for him,\nhowever) and while resisting tore 'at his face with her sharp finger-nails.\n\nMeanwhile, her companion acted with speed and daring. Pulling out her\nlarge hatpin she made .for the beggar, and plunged the pin into his right eye.\n\nThe screams and howls of the wounded beggar reverberated throughout the\ndistrict and brought people dashing to the scene. Among them was a member\nof the nightly police patrol who promptly arrested the groaning Billy.\n\n\"Billy in the Bowl\" was tried and sentenced for robbery with violence, but\nthey could never prove it was he who had strangled the servant girl. The\nGrangegorman-Stoneybatter district became once again a quiet, attractive\nDublin suburb where old ladies strolled, and carefree servant girls laughed\nand giggled as they wended their way home at night.\n\n\n\ndaev\n\n_______________________________\nRev. Dave 'daev' Walsh, daev@fringeware.com\nHome: http://www.fringeware.com/hell\nWeekly Rant: http://www.nua.ie/blather\n'Is it about a bicycle?'-Sgt.Pluck, \n'The Third Policeman', by Flann O'Brien\n________________________________\nHolistic Pet Detective, Owl Worrier, Snark Hunter \n________________________________\n\n\n\n"
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"Like an alias for each list that points to the nonspamtrap address.\n\nJ\n\n\nAt 10:50 AM -0700 8/22/02, Craig R.Hughes wrote:\n>Are you filtering the nonspamtrap for spam when those newsletters \n>sold your address to someone you didn't sign up with? You should \n>probably manually verify that all the mail in the trap is in fact \n>nonspam!\n>\n>C\n>\n>On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 07:59 AM, Justin Mason wrote:\n>\n>>\n>>Justin Shore said:\n>>\n>>>I just ran across a false positive that scored 8.6. The message was\n>>>a solicited ad from Apple.com on educator deals. I can send a copy\n>>>if anyone wants it.\n>>\n>>Yes, please do send it on, and I'll add it to the non-spam corpus.\n>>\n>>To date, the scores evolved by SpamAssassin are very biased towards\n>>non-HTML, non-newsletter-ish mail. This release should be different, as\n>>I've been spending the last month signing up a \"nonspamtrap\" to every\n>>legit newsletter I can find ;)\n>>\n>>This should mean that tests which match common-enough newsletter practices\n>>will no longer get such high scores once we re-run the GA.\n\n-- \n\n--\nJustin Shore, ES-SS ES-SSR Pittsburg State University\nNetwork & Systems Manager http://www.pittstate.edu/ois/\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=805\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From felicity@kluge.net 2002-09-02 15:05 -------\nfrom the sa-dev mailing list:\n\n\"ln -s /dev/null ~root/.razor/razor-agent.log\"\n \nThe question is, why does 2.40 do this whereas my 2.31 doesn't. Hmmm.\n\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"Thank you Lars for your reply to my query.\n\n> SA doesnt do any of these. It is probably a function of whatever scanning\nsystem/MDA\n> you're using (amavis, procmail, whatever). What exactly are you using?\n\nI am using SpamAssassin as part of the MailScanner package (using sendmail\nas the MTA). It integrates nicely in there, and shares a configuration file\nwith SA. All very neat.\n\n> SA in itself does nothing really. You need a frontend (procmail, amavis,\netc)\n> at some point in the mail delivery chain that can hand over the message\n> to SA and do whatever other processing you want.\n\nI thought that SA rated a message with a certain score, then did a certain\naction (such as store | deliver | delete) based on the configuration given.\nI was hoping there were some other actions that I could custom-program in.\n\nAgain, many thanks,\n\n\nAdrian\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"I'm getting an error page from sourceforge.net when I try to go to\nwww.spamassassin.org. \n\nJust FYI. \n\n\n-- \nLarry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler\nPhone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org\nUS Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"\nJesus Climent said:\n\n> d output: Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 11) line 95,\n> near \"25FREEMEGS_URL_uri_test\" (Missing operator before\n> FREEMEGS_URL_uri_test?) Bareword found whe\n\n> Is that a bug or is a fault in my system?\n\nlooks like there's an out-of-date copy of the rules files, on your system.\nthat rules is called \"FREEMEGS_URL\" nowadays.\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"sorry for the dupe.. thought the com address would bounce.. my bad.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=840\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From felicity@kluge.net 2002-09-06 10:56 -------\nSubject: Re: [SAdev] spam_level_char option change/removal\n\nOn Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 10:09:19AM -0700, bugzilla-daemon@hughes-family.org wrote:\n> another (or would look terrible). Let's just use a letter. If\n> aesthetics are your concern, I think an \"x\" will look just fine.\n\n\"x\" is fine, but let's not take out the config option. if people really\nwant to have it be something else, we shouldn't hinder them.\n\n\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"Despite my lack of confidence to upgrade to 2.41 using the tarball instead of \ncpan, it worked. With the help of others, got razor working. I did however \nnotice something in my logs which happened twice but hasn't recurred.\n\nSep 8 16:10:11 omega spamd[14014]: razor2 check skipped: Permission denied \nCan't call method \"log\" on unblessed reference at \n/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm line 211, <STDIN> line \n66.\n\n\n-- \nRobin Lynn Frank\nParadigm-Omega, LLC\n==================================\nThe only certainty about documentation is that\nwhoever wrote it \"might\" have understood it.\nThe rest of us may not be so lucky.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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">>>>> \"CW\" == Carlo Wood <carlo@alinoe.com> writes:\n\nCW> to manually decode the base64 part.\nCW> Can someone please tell me how to do that?\n\n\ngoogle: base64 decode\n\nthe first three results look useful.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Stephane Lentz wrote:\n\n> => I faced a similar problem with the FreeBSD when trying to \n> install SpamAssassin through the ports on my fresh FreeBSD 4.6.2. \n> I had to define PERL5LIB with some given order of directories\n> so that the latest File::Spec module get used. \n\nGood to hear it's not just me. Mind telling me how you set PERL5LIB\nspecificly? I've tried a few things (setenv in the shell, as well as\n$PERL5LIB == ...inside the Makefile.PL, even on the perl command\nline..) with no success.\n\nthanks.\n\n..david\n\n\n---\ndavid raistrick\ndrais@atlasta.net\t\thttp://www.expita.com/nomime.html\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Vince Puzzella wrote:\n\n> Ever since I set defang_mime 0 all spam that contains HTML has a badly\n> formatted report. I think/realize it's because the report should be in\n> HTML. Is there anyway to get Spamassassin to add an HTML report in\n> cases where it is required (defang_mime 0)?\n\nFunny, I was in the middle of composing the same message when I saw yours.\n\nIt would be nice if it sees a header like:\nContent-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\n\nand defang_mime is 0, it could wrap the report with <pre></pre> for ease\nof reading?\n\nAnd the same sort of problem seems to occur with base64 encoded messages.\nThe report is placed inside of the mime boundary:\n------=_NextPart_000_00B7_31E64A2B.B8441E37\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: base64\n\nSPAM: -------------------- Start SpamAssassin results ----------------------\n\nShould this not go above (probably in it's own mime section,) to make sure\nthat the attachments don't get destroyed?\n\nIan\n\n-------------------------------------------\nIan White\nemail: iwhite@victoria.tc.ca\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nIn remembrance\nwww.osdn.com/911/\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"Op 12-09-2002 00:35 schreef Ellen Clary (ellen@dgi.com):\n\n>> Then there is a third possibility. Instead of returning a 550 code\n>> indicating you're on to the spammer, fake a 5.1.1 response which is\n>> saying \"mailbox does not exist.\" This would be in the hopes that some\n>> spammers out there actually remove names reported as non-existent from\n>> their lists. I know, a slim hope, but even if only a few do, it can\n>> lower the incidence.\n> \n> They don't, I can guarantee that. Quite a few spamtraps nowadays\n> operate by 5nn'ing for 6 months in the hope of getting legit mailers\n> to remove bouncing addrs from lists; then after 6 months, they just\n> spamtrap all incoming mail to those addrs. (unfortunately a lot of\n> legit mailers don't bother cleaning their lists either.)\n\nMost spammers don't check reply codes at all, they just send out as many\nmails as their system will hold without checking for any confirmation.\n\nA trick to lower spam reception was dicussed on the postfix mailing list\nsome time ago: answer all incoming mail with a 4xx temporary error code when\nit is offered the first time, and accept it the second time. Apparently most\nmass-emailers don't even try to deliver a second time.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"> -----Original Message-----\n> From: carlo@alinoe.com [mailto:carlo@alinoe.com]\n> Sent: 13 September 2002 14:21\n> To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\n> Subject: [SAtalk] Getting yourself removed from spam lists\n>\n> I get the feeling that the spammers never\n> remove emails from their lists.\n\nCorrect...\n\n> On the other hand, that doesn't make sense:\n> wouldn't they get worried about their millions\n> of spams being wasted? Don't they WANT *some*\n> prove that they indeed *reach* people somehow?\n\nNo, they only have to prove that they send several million\nemails to 'potential clients' to get their money. I don't think\nthey even care much about bounces. They're con-artists, why\nshould they care about proving they actually reached people?\n \n> So... it seems to me that they DO clean up\n> their lists, but only when a spam fails to\n> deliver - or can't they detect that?\n\nMost of the time the bounce goes to some poor soul who has\nnothing to do with the spammer.\n\n> What do spammers do with email addresses in\n> their database that are undeliverable for a\n> few years? Do they still continue to spam\n> them?\n\nYes.\n\nTony\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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["On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:47:27PM -0700, Jeremy Kusnetz wrote:\n> When running:\n> spamc -c < sample-spam.txt\n> I get: 18.9/6.0 Which looks correct, BUT\n> doing an echo $?, returns a 0 instead of 1.\n\nCan you submit this to bugzilla? It definately is a bug, I mean I do\na packet trace and here's what I get with one of my spams:\n\n[the request]\n\n0040 0b 8e 43 48 45 43 4b 20 53 50 41 4d 43 2f 31 2e ..CHECK SPAMC/1.\n0050 32 0d 0a 55 73 65 72 3a 20 66 65 6c 69 63 69 74 2..User: felicit\n0060 79 0d 0a 43 6f 6e 74 65 6e 74 2d 6c 65 6e 67 74 y..Content-lengt\n0070 68 3a 20 38 33 34 39 0d 0a 0d 0a h: 8349....\n\n[the spam, removed for brevity]\n\n[the response]\n\n0040 0b 8f 53 50 41 4d 44 2f 31 2e 31 20 30 20 45 58 ..SPAMD/1.1 0 EX\n0050 5f 4f 4b 0d 0a 53 70 61 6d 3a 20 46 61 6c 73 65 _OK..Spam: False\n0060 20 3b 20 34 36 2e 35 20 2f 20 35 2e 30 0d 0a 0d ; 46.5 / 5.0...\n\n\nSo spamd is definately returning false incorrectly.\n\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\n?pu gnikcab yb naem uoy tahw siht sI\n", "…"]
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"On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, Tony L. Svanstrom mused:\n> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 the voices made carlo@alinoe.com write:\n> \n>> What do spammers do with email addresses in\n>> their database that are undeliverable for a\n>> few years? Do they still continue to spam\n>> them?\n> \n> Yes.\n\nSo much so that I get thousands of bounces per day on this machine aimed\nat what are plainly message-ids...\n\n-- \n`Let's have a round of applause for those daring young men\n and their flying spellcheckers.' --- Meg Worley\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Vernon Webb wrote:\n\n> I'm getting these messages and I'm not sure what they mean. Can anyone clear \n> this up for me? Thanks.\n> \n> Sep 15 11:45:09 linux mailscanner[6128]: RBL Check ORDB-RBL timed out and \n> was killed, consecutive failure 3 of 7\n> Sep 15 11:45:24 linux mailscanner[6128]: SpamAssassin timed out and was \n> killed\n\nYour running mailscanner and the timeout used got to check ORDB-RBL is too \nlow and your timing out. mailscanner will count up to seven timeouts and \nthen automatically disable these checks until it restarts itself (within 4 \nhours).\n\n-- \nGerry\n\n\"The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne\" Chaucer\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:\n\n>>> DATE_IN_PAST_48_96\n>>> SPAM_PHRASE_00_01\n>>> SPAM_PHRASE_01_02\n>>> SPAM_PHRASE_02_03\n>>> SPAM_PHRASE_03_05\n>>> SPAM_PHRASE_05_08\n\n> I was thinking of just removing those particular rules, but keeping the\n> other entries in the range, since they're proving too \"noisy\" to be\n> effective. But I'd be willing to keep those ones in, all the same. What\n> do you think? Matt/Craig, thoughts?\n\nI think I could handle commenting out the lowest SPAM_PHRASE_XX_YY\nscores. If the GA could handle this sort of thing so they'd\nautomatically be zeroed, I'd feel better since the ranges could change\nnext time the phrase list is regenerated or the algorithm tweaked.\n\nI think we need to understand why DATE_IN_PAST_48_96 is so low before\nwe remove it. The two rules on either side perform quite well.\n\n>> And here are the rules that seem like they should be better or should\n>> be recoverable:\n\n>>> FROM_MISSING\n>>> GAPPY_TEXT\n>>> INVALID_MSGID\n>>> MIME_NULL_BLOCK\n>>> SUBJ_MISSING\n\n> well, I don't like SUBJ_MISSING, I reckon there's a world of mails from\n> cron jobs (e.g.) which hit it.\n\nOkay, drop SUBJ_MISSING.\n\n> But, yes, the others for sure should be recoverable, and I'm sure there's\n> more.\n\nProbably a few, those seemed like the best prospects to me.\n\n> BTW do you agree with the proposed methodology (ie. remove the rules and\n> bugzilla each one?)\n\nI only want a bugzilla ticket for each one if people are okay with\nquick WONTFIX closes on the ones deemed unworthy of recovery.\n\nIf you could put the stats for each rule in the ticket somehow (should\nbe automatable with email at the very least), it would help.\n\nDan\n\n\n"
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"\nGary Funck said:\n> I thought the \">> /perllocal.pod\" line looked odd. Is it normal to write\n> documentation into the root directory? (<g>). Is there some Make parameter, o\n> r\n> environment variable that should've been set when I ran \"make\"?\n\nan issue for Razor folks I think.\n\n> It seems that by registering that I avoided the error path noted in my previo\n> us\n> e-mail where DNS::Net::Resolver was called, but does not exist in my Perl\n> hierarchy. Here's the new output from SA ans Razor2:\nlooks good.\n\n\n> Question: if we use spamassassin on a per-user basis, invoked from procmailrc\n> ,\n> will each user have to run \"razor-admin -register\" first? Is there way to\n> register with Razor just once per system?\n\nIf you use spamd with the -H option and provide a shared directory for\nthe razor config files to be written to. RTFM for more details...\n\n--j.\n\n"
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["Hi - \n\nI upgraded to 2.40 (now 2.41) last week and the messages which are definitely in the DCC database aren't being marked as such by spamassassin when connected to via spamc. Interestingly it is detected when running spamassassin -t < sample-spam.txt (using the same userid incidentally). Is this a known \"feature\" of spamc under 2.4x or is there anything obvious that I am not implementing correctly? Note that as I implied above this used to work under 2.3x of spamassassin and spamd/spamc\n\nRegards\n\nRay Gardener\nSheffield Hallam University\nUK\n\n", "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN\">\n<HTML><HEAD>\n<META http-equiv=Content-Type content=\"text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\">\n<META content=\"MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200\" name=GENERATOR>\n<STYLE></STYLE>\n</HEAD>\n<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi - </FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I&nbsp;upgraded to 2.40 (now 2.41) last week and \nthe messages which are definitely in the DCC database&nbsp;aren't being marked \nas such by spamassassin when connected to via spamc. Interestingly it is \ndetected when running spamassassin -t &lt; sample-spam.txt (using the same \nuserid incidentally). Is this a known \"feature\" of spamc under 2.4x or is there \nanything obvious that I am not implementing correctly? Note that as I implied \nabove this used to work under 2.3x of spamassassin and spamd/spamc</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray Gardener</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sheffield Hallam University</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>UK</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>\n"]
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"\n\"Michael Moncur\" said:\n\n> My corpus is about 50% spamtrap spam at any given time. Let me know if I\n> should leave that out next time, I do keep it separate. My spamtraps are\n> pretty clean of viruses and bounce messages most of the time.\n\nIMO spamtrap data that's well-cleaned and monitored is fine.\n\nTo my mind there's 3 types of spamtraps:\n\n 1. old user addresses, recycled into spamtraps when the user closes\n the account\n\n 2. old user addresses, recycled into spamtraps several months after the\n user closes the account, scanned for newsletters, unsubscribed\n from them etc.\n\n 3. real spamtrap addresses to trap website crawlers.\n\nThe latter 2 are the most effective, but #1 is a real PITA; it takes lots\nof maintainance to avoid ham getting in there. Some of my spamtrap data\nhad a few 1's contributed by ISPs, and I hadn't spent enough time sifting\nfor legit mail that was slipping through. So I felt better leaving\nthem out for this run, apart from what I'd hand-cleaned.\n\n--j.\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=813\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2002-09-21 16:39 -------\nDan, BTW, is there any code from this that we can get checked in?\nI'd love to mess around with it a bit.\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"This is just an semi-educated guess - if I'm wrong, someone please correct\nme!\n\nSpamd setuid's to the user running spamc. Since you're calling spamc from a\nglobal procmailrc file, it's being run as root (most likely). If called as\nroot, spamd won't open user_prefs files.\n\n>>From the spamc man page:\n\n -u username\n This argument has been semi-obsoleted. To have spamd use\n per-user-config files, run spamc as the user whose config\n files spamd should load. If you're running spamc as some\n other user though (eg. root, mail, nobody, cyrus, etc.)\n then you can still use this flag.\n\n\nThe solution is to set DROPPRIVS=yes in /etc/procmailrc, just before running\nspamc. From the procmailrc man page:\n\n DROPPRIVS If set to `yes' procmail will drop all privileges\n it might have had (suid or sgid). This is only\n useful if you want to guarantee that the bottom\n half of the /etc/procmailrc file is executed on\n behalf of the recipient.\n\n\nI hope that helps, and I also hope it's right!\n\nSt-\n\n\n| -----Original Message-----\n| From: spamassassin-talk-admin@example.sourceforge.net\n| [mailto:spamassassin-talk-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of\n| Cheryl L. Southard\n| Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:28 PM\n| To: spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net\n| Subject: [SAtalk] user_prefs ignored\n|\n|\n| Hi All,\n|\n| I am running SpamAssassin 2.41 with procmail as my local delivery agent\n| with sendmail. I use spamc/spamd so that it runs site-wide from\n| /etc/procmailrc.\n|\n| spamd is run as root with the flags \"-d -a -c\", and spamc isn't run with\n| any flags.\n|\n| When I was testing the program, I deployed spamc from my personal\n| ~/.procmailrc file, my ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs file was read each time.\n| I can see this because I have a non-default \"required_hits\" value which\n| gets reported in every e-mail on the \"X-Spam-Status\" line.\n|\n| Now that I run spamc from the global /etc/procmailrc file, my\n| ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs file is no longer being read or processed from\n| e-mails from outside computers. The \"required_hits\" value gets set back\n| to the one in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf. However, if I send local\n| e-mail, my user_prefs file is read and processed correctly.\n|\n| Does anyone know how to fix this problem? if this is a spamassassin or\n| procmail bug?\n|\n| Thanks,\n|\n| Cheryl\n|\n| --\n| Cheryl Southard\n| cld@astro.caltech.edu\n|\n|\n| -------------------------------------------------------\n| This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\n| Welcome to geek heaven.\n| http://thinkgeek.com/sf\n| _______________________________________________\n| Spamassassin-talk mailing list\n| Spamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\n| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n|\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"I just picked up Razor SDK 2.03 and 2.14 agents from the the razor site.\nI am using SuSe 7.3 - intalled SDK with no problems. All tests passed.\n\nWhen I try to make the 2.14 agents I get all kinds of errors. In\nparticuliar it says the net::dns is missing. But it seems to be there. The\nSDK test passes it.\n\nAny help would be appreciated.\n\nDoug\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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["On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 02:33:48PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote:\n> I seem to be getting a *lot* of spam relayed via these guys recently.\n> Can others confirm this?\n> \n> if it's the case, I'll come up with a forged-hostname test for it.\n\nI do get some from them, typically some dsl.telesp.net.br host:\n\n% grep -c telesp.net.br *| sort -rn\nspammers-2002-09:59\nspammers-2002-08:64\nspammers-2002-07:23\nspammers-2002-06:13\nspammers-2002-05:4\nspammers-2002-04:2\n\nDefinitely increasing per month. Percentage-wise: 2002-09 has 1212\nspams in it, so 59/1212 is about 4.8%. Last month was 3.6%.\n\n-- \nRandomly Generated Tagline:\nI don't believe I've ever cuddled my elses.\n -- Larry Wall in <199806221550.IAA07171@wall.org>\n", "…"]
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv4019\n\nModified Files:\n Tag: b2_4_0\n\tspamassassin.raw \nLog Message:\nfixed bug 1033: -R and -W were not respecting auto_whitelist_path\n\nIndex: spamassassin.raw\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/spamassassin.raw,v\nretrieving revision 1.68.2.12\nretrieving revision 1.68.2.13\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.68.2.12 -r1.68.2.13\n--- spamassassin.raw\t24 Sep 2002 18:51:37 -0000\t1.68.2.12\n+++ spamassassin.raw\t2 Oct 2002 13:19:28 -0000\t1.68.2.13\n@@ -216,6 +216,9 @@\n if ($@) { warn $@; }\n \n if ($doing_whitelist_operation) {\n+ # read the config!\n+ $spamtest->init (1);\n+\n if ($opt{'add-to-whitelist'}) {\n $spamtest->add_all_addresses_to_whitelist ($mail);\n } elsif ($opt{'remove-from-whitelist'}) {\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n\n"
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"use Perl Daily Headline Mailer\n\nThis Week on perl5-porters (30 September / 6 October 2002)\n posted by rafael on Monday October 07, @07:12 (summaries)\n http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/07/1124226\n\nRATS\n posted by KM on Monday October 07, @09:01 (news)\n http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/07/132252\n\n\n\n\nCopyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved.\n\n\n======================================================================\n\nYou have received this message because you subscribed to it\non use Perl. To stop receiving this and other\nmessages from use Perl, or to add more messages\nor change your preferences, please go to your user page.\n\n\thttp://use.perl.org/my/messages/\n\nYou can log in and change your preferences from there.\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1049\n\nfelicity@kluge.net changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Status|NEW |RESOLVED\n Resolution| |FIXED\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From felicity@kluge.net 2002-10-03 13:26 -------\nHmmm, my last message doesn't seem to have made it into bugzilla yet.\n\nI've committed a patch to fix this problem in both HEAD and b2_4_0. The last\nmessage explains what the problem was and what the patch does to fix it.\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=960\n\nspamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n Status|NEW |RESOLVED\n Resolution| |WONTFIX\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From spamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de 2002-10-03 14:16 -------\nI think it's ok to close this one? Comment is a valid, albeit seldom used RFC \n2822 header... \n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1052\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From rOD-spamassassin@arsecandle.org 2002-10-03 18:51 -------\nIgnoring the conspiracy theories, can you supply examples of spam which was \nscored with RCVD_IN_BONDEDSENDER? The only mail I have received which scored \nthis were from Amazon.com.\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1053\n\n\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From mgm@starlingtech.com 2002-10-03 21:46 -------\nLooks great! One note: most \"image-only\" spam actually has some text (a few \nwords at the top, a disclaimer at the end) so keep that in mind. The typical \nimage spam that slips through SA seems to have a bit of text, one huge image, \nthen a bit more.\n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"In emacs rmail what varieties of different techniques are there for\nsorting your favorite correspondents from the mix?... leaving the hundreds\nof spam commercials. A filter for the campus computer system puts subject\nlines and headers on many of the hundreds of spam commercials\nwith http://spamassassin.org\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n"
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"I don't know how make of you are in the Bay Area but EFF is having a benifit \nparty ast the DNA Lounge in San Francisco tonight. Wil Weaton (Wesley Crussher \nfrom star Trek TNG) will fight Barney the Dinasour.\n\nCome on by if you're not doing anything.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1075\n\nspamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de changed:\n\n What |Removed |Added\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n CC| |spamassassin-\n | |devel@lists.sourceforge.net\n AssignedTo|spamassassin- |spamassassin-\n |devel@lists.sourceforge.net |contrib@msquadrat.de\n\n\n\n------- Additional Comments From spamassassin-contrib@msquadrat.de 2002-10-08 04:16 -------\nI'm gonna fix this one. I think the best solution will be to copy the modified \nrules to blib and install them from there. Then the rules files will be \nchanged on build time and not install time, too. \n\n\n\n------- You are receiving this mail because: -------\nYou are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.\nYou are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n\n"
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"\n\"Steve Thomas\" said:\n\n> I created a user (honeypot) and set up an alias to it. Then I added a\n> 'hidden' (font color same as background color) link to that address at the\n> bottom of my html pages. The .procmailrc file for that user is: .....\n> which will submit the msg to razor then save it locally. I set this up about\n> a month ago, and haven't received anything other than some viruses (Sircam)\n> on it yet. The viruses are rejected at the MTA level, so they're not being\n> saved/reported to razor.\n\nFWIW, I would now recommend doing this (using a user with a procmailrc)\ninstead of a system alias; more secure, and easier to filter out crud\nlike bounces, virii etc. that render a corpus dirty.\n\n--j.\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"
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"David Höhn wrote:\n> Hello, have you seen and discussed this article and his approach?\n> \n> Thank you\n> \n> http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html\n\nYes. See the perl module Mail::SpamTest::Bayesian on CPAN, and the \nthread on sa-talk.\n\nMatt.\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-devel mailing list\nSpamassassin-devel@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel\n\n"
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"----- Original Message -----\nFrom: <razor-users-request@example.sourceforge.net>\nTo: <razor-users@example.sourceforge.net>\nSent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:05 PM\nSubject: Razor-users digest, Vol 1 #346 - 8 msgs\n\n\n> Subject: RE: [Razor-users] Razor with sendmail\n> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:03:05 -0400\n> From: \"Rose, Bobby\" <brose@med.wayne.edu>\n> To: \"Julian Bond\" <julian_bond@voidstar.com>,\n> <razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net>\n>\n> If you didn't add it when compile would be one way. Another would be to\n> grep your sendmail.cf for the word Milter.\n>\n>\n>\n> \"Bort, Paul\" <pbort@tmwsystems.com> wrote:\n> >If your sendmail has been compiled with Milter support, you can add=20\n> >SMRazor easily. We've been using it for a while without problems.=20\n> >Others on the list have mentioned it as well.\n> >\n> >http://www.sapros.com/smrazor/\n>\n> Is there an easy way to tell if Milter is compiled in?\n>\n\nTo see all the options compiled into (and version of) sendmail, try the\nfollowing line:\n\necho \\$Z | /path/to/sendmail -bt -d0\n\nSven\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"I'm not sure if this is really a razor problem/issue or a sendmail\nproblem. Here's the scenario... My mail server is a 150mhz PC funning\nFreeBSD 4.4. Ordinarily, the machine is quite idle; it supports my\nwife's web site with Apache server running on it and a few other\nservices (jabber, etc). Between the various members of our family, we\nget a fair amount of email coming in (mailing lists, etc). On\noccasion, our DSL-based ISP dies for a number of hours. When we get a\nreconnection to the Internet, I get a huge flow of emails coming in\nwhich are then filtered via razor. As a result, I will sometimes see\nover 20+ sendmail processes running at the same time after such an\noccasion. The machine is then REALLY slow.\n\nI noticed that my /etc/procmailrc file had had no arguments associated\nwith the call to razor-check. There was something in the log, though,\nto make me suspicious that it was possibly not seeing all my razor\nfiles. So I have just added \"-home /etc/razor\" as an argument. I\nhaven't had any down time since then so I cannot comment on whether\nthis change has sped up my razor processing a noticable amount. (This\nparagraph may be an aside to my real problem, the first paragraph\nabove; but I thought I should be complete in my description.)\n\nAt any rate, has anyone else suffered from a backlog of email\nprocessing creating lots and lots of sendmail processes? Is there,\nperhaps, a way to limit the number of sendmail processes?\n\nAny ideas would be welcome.\n\nThanks,\nJoe\n---\nJoe Berry\njoe@topshot.com\nAIM \"joe topshot\"\nYahoo Msgr \"joetopshot\"\njabber \"joetopshot@topshot.com\"\nBaltimore, MD\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"On Aug 25 Joe Berry wrote:\n\n>Very good advice given above.\n\nYes :)\n\n>One more problem solved.\n\nNo. One more problem in some software worked around by using tricks in \nanother piece of software. The solution is the aggregator.\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"No, please post a link!\n\nFox\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"Arnaud Abelard\" <arnaud.abelard@sciences.univ-nantes.fr>\nTo: <razor-users@example.sourceforge.net>\nSent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:39 AM\nSubject: [Razor-users] razor plugins for mozilla?\n\n\n> Hello,\n>\n> did any of you hear about a a razor plugin for mozilla?\n> a plugin that would add a \"report as spam\" button somewhere for the user\n> to report a mail as spam on a server?\n>\n> Arnaud\n> --\n> Arnaud Abélard\n> Administrateur réseaux et systèmes\n> Irin / Faculté de Sciences\n> Université de Nantes\n>\n>\n>\n> -------------------------------------------------------\n> This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n> cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n> https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n> _______________________________________________\n> Razor-users mailing list\n> Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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["I found a nice little Perl script for this purpose called rotate, which \nmakes the process of rotating log files very simple. If there's an \nofficial source for this script, I couldn't find it. (My hosting \nprovider, pair.com, has it installed, and that's where I found it.) \n However, redistribution appears to be allowed, so I've attached it.\n\nGood luck...\n\nL\n\nDavid Rees wrote:\n\n>On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 08:53:16PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote:\n> \n>\n>>On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:16:57PM -0500, Mike Burger wrote:\n>> \n>>\n>>>You might be better asking this on the spamassassin-talk list. The folks \n>>>there will almost definitely have an answer for this.\n>>> \n>>>\n>>I posted a fairly lengthy complete answer to this problem and how to\n>>get around it in SA 2.41 on the spamassassin-talk list. :)\n>> \n>>\n>\n>Thanks for the post there, it answered all my questions about\n>spamassassin/razor interaction.\n>\n>Now for a razor question:\n>\n>I'm worried about having a server full of razor-agent.log files which keep\n>on growing. Is it possible to configure razor log via SYSLOG to make it\n>easy to rotate logs? Searching through the man pages didn't turn anything\n>up... Otherwise I'll have to write a script to go through each user's home\n>directory looking for razor-agent.log files to rotate periodically.\n>\n>Thanks,\n>Dave\n>\n>\n>-------------------------------------------------------\n>This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n>cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n>https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n>_______________________________________________\n>Razor-users mailing list\n>Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n> \n>\n", "…"]
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"On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 08:53:16PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote:\n> On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:16:57PM -0500, Mike Burger wrote:\n> > You might be better asking this on the spamassassin-talk list. The folks \n> > there will almost definitely have an answer for this.\n> \n> I posted a fairly lengthy complete answer to this problem and how to\n> get around it in SA 2.41 on the spamassassin-talk list. :)\n\nThanks for the post there, it answered all my questions about\nspamassassin/razor interaction.\n\nNow for a razor question:\n\nI'm worried about having a server full of razor-agent.log files which keep\non growing. Is it possible to configure razor log via SYSLOG to make it\neasy to rotate logs? Searching through the man pages didn't turn anything\nup... Otherwise I'll have to write a script to go through each user's home\ndirectory looking for razor-agent.log files to rotate periodically.\n\nThanks,\nDave\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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"Shouldn't there be a w, somewhere in tehre? Simply setting group and \nowner to read and execute won't alleviate a write problem.\n\nOn Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Michael Duff wrote:\n\n> This is due to insufficient write privileges to the \"razor-agent.log\" \n> file. A quick work-around is to do a \"chmod go+rx\" on that file (of \n> course, it's better to restrict the access as much as possible).\n> \n> In Agent.pm, when the Razor2::Logger object is created, if it doesn't \n> have write permission to the log file it does not succeed. Then, later \n> in the code when the log object is used, it fails with the \"unblessed\" \n> error.\n> \n> Hope this helps,\n> Michael Duff\n> \n> David Rees wrote:\n> \n> >This is my first time running Razor, heard a lot of good things about it so\n> >I thought I'd give it a shot. I also run SpamAssassin so I'd like to\n> >integrate the two.\n> >\n> >I'm not sure if this problem is with SpamAssassin or Razor, so I though I'd\n> >shoot the message here first\n> >\n> >With a freshly installed SpamAssassin 2.41 and Razor 2.14 I'm seeing these\n> >messages spit out from spamd:\n> >\n> >razor2 check skipped: No such file or directory Can't call method \"log\" on\n> >unblessed reference at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm\n> >line 211, <STDIN> line 75.\n> >\n> >Any ideas? razor seems to run correctly over the command line.\n> >\n> >Thanks,\n> >-Dave\n> >\n> >\n> >-------------------------------------------------------\n> >This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n> >cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n> >https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n> >_______________________________________________\n> >Razor-users mailing list\n> >Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n> > \n> >\n> \n> \n> \n> \n> \n> -------------------------------------------------------\n> This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\n> cell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\n> https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n> _______________________________________________\n> Razor-users mailing list\n> Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\n> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n> \n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n"
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["Hi all,\n\nI am wondering if anybody has successfully install a site-wide spamassassin+razor2 installation. I am having so much trouble and the following is the extract of my procmail.log.\n\nrazor2 check skipped: Bad file descriptor Insecure dependency in open while runn\ning setuid at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor2/Client/Config.pm line\n410, <GEN23> line 1.\n>>From info@znion.com Thu Sep 5 11:55:15 2002\n Subject: *****SPAM***** Computer Maintenance\n Folder: /home/eugene/caughtspam 8343\n\n\nIn razor-agent.log, I simply get the bootup message and that's it...\n\nSep 05 11:55:15.668648 check[8478]: [ 1] [bootup] Logging initiated LogDebugLeve\nl=14 to file:/var/log/razor-agent.log\n\nPlease help. Thanks.\n\nEugene\n", "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN\">\n<HTML><HEAD>\n<META http-equiv=Content-Type content=\"text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\">\n<META content=\"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300\" name=GENERATOR>\n<STYLE></STYLE>\n</HEAD>\n<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am wondering if anybody has successfully install \na site-wide spamassassin+razor2 installation. I am having so much trouble and \nthe following is the extract of my procmail.log.</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>razor2 check skipped: Bad file descriptor Insecure \ndependency in open while runn<BR>ing setuid at \n/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Razor2/Client/Config.pm line<BR>410, \n&lt;GEN23&gt; line 1.<BR>From <A \nhref=\"mailto:info@znion.com\">info@znion.com</A>&nbsp; Thu Sep&nbsp; 5 11:55:15 \n2002<BR>&nbsp;Subject: *****SPAM***** Computer Maintenance<BR>&nbsp; Folder: \n/home/eugene/caughtspam&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \n8343</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In razor-agent.log, I simply get the bootup message \nand that's it...</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sep 05 11:55:15.668648 check[8478]: [ 1] [bootup] \nLogging initiated LogDebugLeve<BR>l=14 to \nfile:/var/log/razor-agent.log</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please help. Thanks.</FONT></DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>\n<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eugene</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>\n"]
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"On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:16:57PM -0500, Mike Burger wrote:\n> You might be better asking this on the spamassassin-talk list. The folks \n> there will almost definitely have an answer for this.\n\nThanks, I just posted a similar message there.\n\n-Dave\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"I just set up razor and spamassassin, but I keep getting this error in my \nmail log file\n\nrazor2 check skipped: No such file or directory Can't call method \"log\" on \nunblessed reference at \n/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm line 212.\n\nI have looked through the archived list and the only thing I have seen \nabout this error is a possible permission problem on the log file.\nI did what it said in the archives, basically change the permission on the \nfile but its still no go.\n\nAny other help would be appreciated, maybe I'm missing something.\nsomething I forgot to run or do.\n\n\nrob\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"Hi\n\nI try to rebuild xine from src package and I get these errors:\n\n.\n.\n.\n.\n.\nFinding Provides: /usr/lib/rpm/find-provides\nFinding Requires: /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires\nPreReq: rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 \nrpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1\nRequires(rpmlib): rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 \nrpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1\nRequires: xine-libs = 0.9.13 /bin/sh\nObsoletes: xine-devel\n\n\nRPM build errors:\n user dude does not exist - using root\n user dude does not exist - using root\n user dude does not exist - using root\n user dude does not exist - using root\n user dude does not exist - using root\n File not found: /var/tmp/xine-root/usr/bin/aaxine\n\n\nthx,\nRoi\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <RPM-List@freshrpms.net>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"
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"To continue the subject on an otherwise unrelated note, the following\npersonal correspondence was just flagged as spam:\n\nThe following is a slightly modified e-mail message trapped in a server-wide\nspam box.\n\n------\nNEWSPAPER?????\n\nany time estimate when we can expect you home?\ndad\n\n\n\n\n\n\n <********@********** To:\n<*************@***************>\n *********> cc:\n Subject: Oh, yeah\n 09/12/2002 12:43 PM\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI have to stay after school today so I can work on the school newspaper\n(layout) -- Nords will bring me home later than usual.\n\n------\n\nI don't know how to explain this one.\n\n--Will\n\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"Haven't heard anything about this, so excuse the repost but:\n\n\thttp://sf.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=600311&\n\t group_id=3978&atid=103978\n\nOr should bugs be reported somewhere other than on the SF bug tracker?\n\n- Colin\n\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek\nWelcome to geek heaven.\nhttp://thinkgeek.com/sf\n_______________________________________________\nRazor-users mailing list\nRazor-users@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users\n\n\n"
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"Update of /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/debian\nIn directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv23243/debian\n\nModified Files:\n\tspamassassin.README.Debian \nLog Message:\nremoved -P\n\nIndex: spamassassin.README.Debian\n===================================================================\nRCS file: /cvsroot/spamassassin/spamassassin/debian/spamassassin.README.Debian,v\nretrieving revision 1.1\nretrieving revision 1.2\ndiff -b -w -u -d -r1.1 -r1.2\n--- spamassassin.README.Debian\t21 Jun 2002 02:46:50 -0000\t1.1\n+++ spamassassin.README.Debian\t27 Aug 2002 09:31:29 -0000\t1.2\n@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@\n you wish to use spamd (the Daemon version of spamassassin), please edit\n /etc/default/spamassassin.\n \n-'spamc' is equivalent to 'spamassassin -P' and you should use it instead if\n+'spamc' is equivalent to 'spamassassin' and you should use it instead if\n (and only if) you enabled 'spamd' (and you've installed the spamc package)\n \n To add rules, change scores, edit the template, edit\n\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-commits mailing list\nSpamassassin-commits@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-commits\n\n"
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"jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:\n\n> Actually, I want to avoid that -- I've already removed spamproxyd\n> from the distro for 2.40. Here's why:\n> \n> When they're in the distro, *we* have to support them -- which is\n> not necessarily a good thing when we didn't write them in the first\n> place, or when the coder in question may not *want* us to maintain\n> them. :(\n\nI would be in favor of creating new SpamAssassin CVS modules and\nBugzilla categories for other clients (provided there is sufficient\ninterest and a maintainer).\n\nDan\n\n"
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">>From tmda.net/history.html:\n\nThe first release of TMDA in April 2001 was essentially a rewrite of TMS in\nPython, <snip>\n\nApril 2001 is earlier than July 26, 2001... prior art..\n\nfrom http://tmda.net/releases/old/\n Parent Directory 19-Aug-2002 16:14 -\n README.MD5SUM 19-Aug-2002 16:14 4k\n tmda-0.01.tgz 22-Apr-2001 15:59 11k\n tmda-0.02.tgz 26-Apr-2001 12:06 12k\n tmda-0.02.txt 26-Apr-2001 12:50 1k\n tmda-0.10.tgz 27-Apr-2001 21:14 39k\n tmda-0.10.txt 30-Apr-2001 11:36 3k\n tmda-0.11.tgz 02-May-2001 17:17 38k\n tmda-0.11.txt 02-May-2001 17:06 3k\n tmda-0.12.tgz 10-May-2001 19:50 39k\n tmda-0.12.txt 10-May-2001 19:48 1k\n tmda-0.13.tgz 17-May-2001 15:53 39k\n tmda-0.13.txt 17-May-2001 15:57 2k\n tmda-0.14.tgz 24-May-2001 16:43 46k\n tmda-0.14.txt 24-May-2001 16:40 4k\n tmda-0.15.tgz 28-May-2001 15:20 47k\n tmda-0.15.txt 28-May-2001 15:20 1k\n tmda-0.20.tgz 06-Jun-2001 17:52 49k\n tmda-0.20.txt 06-Jun-2001 18:46 6k\n tmda-0.21.tgz 18-Jun-2001 18:32 51k\n tmda-0.21.txt 18-Jun-2001 18:31 2k\n\nTMDA was already at 0.21 8 days before filing for a patent..\n\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: \"Jason R. Mastaler\" <jason-exp-1031164464.7f11b3@mastaler.com>\nTo: \"Justin Mason\" <yyyy@example.com>\nCc: <spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net>; <tmda-users@tmda.net>\nSent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:34 AM\nSubject: [SAtalk] Re: patent on TMDA-like system\n\n\njm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:\n\n> Sounds a lot like TMDA to me. :( Filing date is July 26, 2001,\n> granted May 16, 2002.\n>\n> TMDAers, have you seen this before?\n\nNo, but thanks for pointing it out.\n\n> I'd presume TMDA is prior art, but still, it could be troublesome...\n\nYup. TMDA's core functionality was fully established before even the\nfiling date.\n\nAnyone with experience in this area have a recommendation on whether\nthis should be pursued or not?\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old\ncell phone? Get a new here for FREE!\nhttps://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n\n\n"
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"* Steve Thomas <sthomas@apexvoice.com> [2002-08-28T07:52-0700]:\n> I also get a lot of them. I think they're using the domain registry\n> database to pull their victims' addresses. \n\nAlong with the usual webmaster@* and probably a dash of web harvesting\non the side from the ones I have seen.\n\nA recent conversation in two lines:\n\nMe: Okay, trafficmagnet is being access mapped off now.\nJunior admin [catching up on email after conference]: Thank God!\n\n-- \nJeremy Mates http://www.sial.org/\n\nOpenPGP: 0x11C3D628 (4357 1D47 FF78 24BB 0FBF 7AA8 A846 9F86 11C3 D628)\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------\nThis sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing \nreal-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! \nhttp://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim\n_______________________________________________\nSpamassassin-talk mailing list\nSpamassassin-talk@lists.sourceforge.net\nhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk\n\n"