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My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipntcvx

ipp7ag0

Just mark it return to sender and drop it back at the post office or with the postman. Don’t answer the door when they pop over to inquire about their packages. Problem solved.

You, or anyone with access to Google maps can simply pull up the location on the map and then click "edit", then type in the corrections. I recently moved and my street name is supposed to be one word. However Google had it listed as two words. I submitted the correction. It can take a few days before it starts showing up correctly in Google. But yes I've done this before and it does work. Good luck!

xmbgxn

legaladvice_train

My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipnorcz

ipp7ag0

Is there a reason you have to sign for the package (could you not refuse to sign if it’s one of those)? Or if you don’t have to sign, a reason you pick it up and bring it inside? I would just leave it on my porch/side walk, wherever it was placed and just ignore it, so I was wondering why you retrieve it. I understand if you don’t want them coming onto your property all the time to retrieve the package though.

You, or anyone with access to Google maps can simply pull up the location on the map and then click "edit", then type in the corrections. I recently moved and my street name is supposed to be one word. However Google had it listed as two words. I submitted the correction. It can take a few days before it starts showing up correctly in Google. But yes I've done this before and it does work. Good luck!

xmbgxn

legaladvice_train

My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipp7ag0

ipp3z1l

You, or anyone with access to Google maps can simply pull up the location on the map and then click "edit", then type in the corrections. I recently moved and my street name is supposed to be one word. However Google had it listed as two words. I submitted the correction. It can take a few days before it starts showing up correctly in Google. But yes I've done this before and it does work. Good luck!

Tell the delivery person that the receiver no longer lives here and has moved to an unknown address.

xmbgxn

legaladvice_train

My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipo7rq8

ipoxdqn

May be worth fixing there Google pin for them if they will not do it. Had to do it for my new home. Process was very simple and was able to do it on my phone m.

If you decide to send it back, but haven’t yet, I would not bring their package into my house. If someone drops it off on your porch leave it on your porch. Or toss it out into your yard. You are not required to keep it safe. Raining? Oops. It’s out in the yard. Snowing? Well would you look at that? It’s in that giant snow pile on the side of my house. Most of the time the delivery drivers ring the bell or knock, drop the package and leave. They don’t care if you’re home. If they send someone for it, tell them to look around the yard. You’re not the ward of their packages. If it’s something you ever need to sign for, refuse.

xmbgxn

legaladvice_train

My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipoxdqn

ipntcvx

If you decide to send it back, but haven’t yet, I would not bring their package into my house. If someone drops it off on your porch leave it on your porch. Or toss it out into your yard. You are not required to keep it safe. Raining? Oops. It’s out in the yard. Snowing? Well would you look at that? It’s in that giant snow pile on the side of my house. Most of the time the delivery drivers ring the bell or knock, drop the package and leave. They don’t care if you’re home. If they send someone for it, tell them to look around the yard. You’re not the ward of their packages. If it’s something you ever need to sign for, refuse.

Just mark it return to sender and drop it back at the post office or with the postman. Don’t answer the door when they pop over to inquire about their packages. Problem solved.

xmbgxn

legaladvice_train

My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipnorcz

ipoxdqn

Is there a reason you have to sign for the package (could you not refuse to sign if it’s one of those)? Or if you don’t have to sign, a reason you pick it up and bring it inside? I would just leave it on my porch/side walk, wherever it was placed and just ignore it, so I was wondering why you retrieve it. I understand if you don’t want them coming onto your property all the time to retrieve the package though.

If you decide to send it back, but haven’t yet, I would not bring their package into my house. If someone drops it off on your porch leave it on your porch. Or toss it out into your yard. You are not required to keep it safe. Raining? Oops. It’s out in the yard. Snowing? Well would you look at that? It’s in that giant snow pile on the side of my house. Most of the time the delivery drivers ring the bell or knock, drop the package and leave. They don’t care if you’re home. If they send someone for it, tell them to look around the yard. You’re not the ward of their packages. If it’s something you ever need to sign for, refuse.

xmbgxn

legaladvice_train

My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipo7rq8

ipntcvx

May be worth fixing there Google pin for them if they will not do it. Had to do it for my new home. Process was very simple and was able to do it on my phone m.

Just mark it return to sender and drop it back at the post office or with the postman. Don’t answer the door when they pop over to inquire about their packages. Problem solved.

xmbgxn

legaladvice_train

My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipo7rq8

ipnorcz

May be worth fixing there Google pin for them if they will not do it. Had to do it for my new home. Process was very simple and was able to do it on my phone m.

Is there a reason you have to sign for the package (could you not refuse to sign if it’s one of those)? Or if you don’t have to sign, a reason you pick it up and bring it inside? I would just leave it on my porch/side walk, wherever it was placed and just ignore it, so I was wondering why you retrieve it. I understand if you don’t want them coming onto your property all the time to retrieve the package though.

xmbgxn

legaladvice_train

My neighbors use my mailing address for packages and we are not on good terms. What are my legal obligations when I receive one? My neighbors have on multiple occasions sent packages to my address. I know this is likely on purpose because their address doesn't come up properly when you google it, but ours does. Given that delivery services like Amazon or Walmart probably use google maps, it seems intentional that they are using our address to get their packages sent to our house, and then have us begrudgingly drop it off at their door. Once they sent one of their kids over to ask for their package when we didn't bring it fast enough. I feel that this is attempt to annoy us because they could send the packages to the neighbor on the other side of their house - it's just as close and AFAIK they aren't on bad terms with them. My question is do I have a legal right to withhold their package if it is addressed to my house? My intention is to return the package to the sender. Obviously, I will not open or tamper with their package in any way. What if they have someone knock on my door and request the package? Am I legally required to give it to them when it has my address on it?

ipntcvx

ipnorcz

Just mark it return to sender and drop it back at the post office or with the postman. Don’t answer the door when they pop over to inquire about their packages. Problem solved.

Is there a reason you have to sign for the package (could you not refuse to sign if it’s one of those)? Or if you don’t have to sign, a reason you pick it up and bring it inside? I would just leave it on my porch/side walk, wherever it was placed and just ignore it, so I was wondering why you retrieve it. I understand if you don’t want them coming onto your property all the time to retrieve the package though.

aa3yx4

legaladvice_train

How do I get rid of the drug dealer on my street? xpost from /r/NoStupidQuestions https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/aa3l0n/how\_do\_i\_get\_rid\_of\_the\_drug\_dealer\_on\_my\_street/ ​ Phoenix, AZ ​ My wife and I purchased a house as newlyweds two years ago in a well-regarded neighborhood. The first year we lived here, we has issues with our garage door. It had issues with closing (essentially, direct sunlight would sometimes trip the garage door safety sensor). One day, garage door was left open while my wife was at work (I was out of town). We had a tool box and tools stolen (about $500 in value). That was a dumb thing on our part. We replaced the garage door safety sensors and moved on with our lives. About 8 months later, I ran an errand early one morning. I stopped home for about 90 seconds (just long enough to run inside to grab the puppy) and left the garage door open. When I came back out, there was someone in my garage, rummaging through my car. I chased the guy off, but it was a scary thing to have happen. We reported both incidents to the police. I was talking with some neighbors about what had happened to us; they mentioned that we do have some fairly shady people driving down our street because of a drug dealer who lives about 6 houses down from mine. Talking with other neighbors, this seems to be a well-known fact around here. I purchased a 4k security camera system, which does not cover the direction of the drug dealers house (it's blocked by trees), but I do get full-length view of the street in the other direction. (Note: I also work from home when I'm not traveling, so I make mental notes about things that happen.) There have been a number of thefts on our small section of the street which is not directly connected to main road and does not appear to affect people outside of a direct path of the drug dealers house. We have people who are on the same street, but on the other side of a 4-way stop without any issues. There seems to be two specific paths that people take to the dealers house. This is based on how our road eventually connects to main roads in correlation with areas where we have issues with crimes of opportunity. Some additional notes: \- The first theft and second attempt were by two different people. The two guys stole the tool box, I know what they looked like and the description of the car they drove. My neighbor had outdoor 1080p cameras (the neighbor has moved recently and the cameras went with him). The second guy I know what not with the first two, because I saw him and chased him off my self. \- The dealer has high traffic time between at lunch time on weekdays and late nigh hours up until about 3am. There seems to always be a steady steam of cars. Some times the people that pickup the drugs park down the street and wait for a bit before driving to the dealers house. \- Talked with most of my neighbors around the neighborhood while out walking my dog. \- I submitted a tip on the DEA's website \- I informed the HoA \- The drug dealer owns the house. The house is not registered as a rental and the owner lists that location as their primary mailing address. The license plate of car that is at the normally at the house is the same name on the deed of the home. \- The neighbors had informed the police and try to report suspicious activity, nothing has come from it. Two police cars have driven down our street at 3am for 9 minutes on Christmas day. I dont know what happened but showed up on my cameras. \- In a 6 month period of time, we had 4 accidents on our street, can confirm with pictures. Honestly, there are times I do not feel safe in my own home. Moving can be an option, but other than the drug dealer it is a really nice neighborhood. I want the drug dealer gone.

ecosw1r

ecpbl6g

Have you considered calling the police?

This isn’t really advice, but I feel like it should be said. I think you’re making a bit of a leap blaming one person on your street for ALL of these problems you’ve had with break ins. Although it’s going to sound like I’m trying to take the drug dealers side, do you even have proof that he is in fact selling drugs? Sorry to be a contrarian, but this seems a bit witch-huntey to me.

aa3yx4

legaladvice_train

How do I get rid of the drug dealer on my street? xpost from /r/NoStupidQuestions https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/aa3l0n/how\_do\_i\_get\_rid\_of\_the\_drug\_dealer\_on\_my\_street/ ​ Phoenix, AZ ​ My wife and I purchased a house as newlyweds two years ago in a well-regarded neighborhood. The first year we lived here, we has issues with our garage door. It had issues with closing (essentially, direct sunlight would sometimes trip the garage door safety sensor). One day, garage door was left open while my wife was at work (I was out of town). We had a tool box and tools stolen (about $500 in value). That was a dumb thing on our part. We replaced the garage door safety sensors and moved on with our lives. About 8 months later, I ran an errand early one morning. I stopped home for about 90 seconds (just long enough to run inside to grab the puppy) and left the garage door open. When I came back out, there was someone in my garage, rummaging through my car. I chased the guy off, but it was a scary thing to have happen. We reported both incidents to the police. I was talking with some neighbors about what had happened to us; they mentioned that we do have some fairly shady people driving down our street because of a drug dealer who lives about 6 houses down from mine. Talking with other neighbors, this seems to be a well-known fact around here. I purchased a 4k security camera system, which does not cover the direction of the drug dealers house (it's blocked by trees), but I do get full-length view of the street in the other direction. (Note: I also work from home when I'm not traveling, so I make mental notes about things that happen.) There have been a number of thefts on our small section of the street which is not directly connected to main road and does not appear to affect people outside of a direct path of the drug dealers house. We have people who are on the same street, but on the other side of a 4-way stop without any issues. There seems to be two specific paths that people take to the dealers house. This is based on how our road eventually connects to main roads in correlation with areas where we have issues with crimes of opportunity. Some additional notes: \- The first theft and second attempt were by two different people. The two guys stole the tool box, I know what they looked like and the description of the car they drove. My neighbor had outdoor 1080p cameras (the neighbor has moved recently and the cameras went with him). The second guy I know what not with the first two, because I saw him and chased him off my self. \- The dealer has high traffic time between at lunch time on weekdays and late nigh hours up until about 3am. There seems to always be a steady steam of cars. Some times the people that pickup the drugs park down the street and wait for a bit before driving to the dealers house. \- Talked with most of my neighbors around the neighborhood while out walking my dog. \- I submitted a tip on the DEA's website \- I informed the HoA \- The drug dealer owns the house. The house is not registered as a rental and the owner lists that location as their primary mailing address. The license plate of car that is at the normally at the house is the same name on the deed of the home. \- The neighbors had informed the police and try to report suspicious activity, nothing has come from it. Two police cars have driven down our street at 3am for 9 minutes on Christmas day. I dont know what happened but showed up on my cameras. \- In a 6 month period of time, we had 4 accidents on our street, can confirm with pictures. Honestly, there are times I do not feel safe in my own home. Moving can be an option, but other than the drug dealer it is a really nice neighborhood. I want the drug dealer gone.

ecpbl6g

ecp2lig

This isn’t really advice, but I feel like it should be said. I think you’re making a bit of a leap blaming one person on your street for ALL of these problems you’ve had with break ins. Although it’s going to sound like I’m trying to take the drug dealers side, do you even have proof that he is in fact selling drugs? Sorry to be a contrarian, but this seems a bit witch-huntey to me.

Talk with your subdivision crime watch people, talk with the police sergeant in charge of your neighborhood's beat. Go with other neighbors. Explain your situation. They will listen. I have found the police to be very helpful (Houston, Texas) In my case, the officers decided to do their paper work everyday in front of the house of the perps. Oddly enough, the perps moved very quickly as this ruined their activities.

aa3yx4

legaladvice_train

How do I get rid of the drug dealer on my street? xpost from /r/NoStupidQuestions https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/aa3l0n/how\_do\_i\_get\_rid\_of\_the\_drug\_dealer\_on\_my\_street/ ​ Phoenix, AZ ​ My wife and I purchased a house as newlyweds two years ago in a well-regarded neighborhood. The first year we lived here, we has issues with our garage door. It had issues with closing (essentially, direct sunlight would sometimes trip the garage door safety sensor). One day, garage door was left open while my wife was at work (I was out of town). We had a tool box and tools stolen (about $500 in value). That was a dumb thing on our part. We replaced the garage door safety sensors and moved on with our lives. About 8 months later, I ran an errand early one morning. I stopped home for about 90 seconds (just long enough to run inside to grab the puppy) and left the garage door open. When I came back out, there was someone in my garage, rummaging through my car. I chased the guy off, but it was a scary thing to have happen. We reported both incidents to the police. I was talking with some neighbors about what had happened to us; they mentioned that we do have some fairly shady people driving down our street because of a drug dealer who lives about 6 houses down from mine. Talking with other neighbors, this seems to be a well-known fact around here. I purchased a 4k security camera system, which does not cover the direction of the drug dealers house (it's blocked by trees), but I do get full-length view of the street in the other direction. (Note: I also work from home when I'm not traveling, so I make mental notes about things that happen.) There have been a number of thefts on our small section of the street which is not directly connected to main road and does not appear to affect people outside of a direct path of the drug dealers house. We have people who are on the same street, but on the other side of a 4-way stop without any issues. There seems to be two specific paths that people take to the dealers house. This is based on how our road eventually connects to main roads in correlation with areas where we have issues with crimes of opportunity. Some additional notes: \- The first theft and second attempt were by two different people. The two guys stole the tool box, I know what they looked like and the description of the car they drove. My neighbor had outdoor 1080p cameras (the neighbor has moved recently and the cameras went with him). The second guy I know what not with the first two, because I saw him and chased him off my self. \- The dealer has high traffic time between at lunch time on weekdays and late nigh hours up until about 3am. There seems to always be a steady steam of cars. Some times the people that pickup the drugs park down the street and wait for a bit before driving to the dealers house. \- Talked with most of my neighbors around the neighborhood while out walking my dog. \- I submitted a tip on the DEA's website \- I informed the HoA \- The drug dealer owns the house. The house is not registered as a rental and the owner lists that location as their primary mailing address. The license plate of car that is at the normally at the house is the same name on the deed of the home. \- The neighbors had informed the police and try to report suspicious activity, nothing has come from it. Two police cars have driven down our street at 3am for 9 minutes on Christmas day. I dont know what happened but showed up on my cameras. \- In a 6 month period of time, we had 4 accidents on our street, can confirm with pictures. Honestly, there are times I do not feel safe in my own home. Moving can be an option, but other than the drug dealer it is a really nice neighborhood. I want the drug dealer gone.

ecp9iya

ecpbl6g

Not a lawyer, but dealt with a dealer house next door (and 2 across the street... it was not a good neighborhood when we moved in). Ours was somewhat easier because it was a rental and the owner was not pleased, the cops took every call seriously, and the renter was eventually evicted. BUT, we didn't know right away that the owner would care and several neighbors repeatedly called in all suspicious activity. Eventually we made reports to our city about a "nuisance property" because of all the crime reports from a single address. Many municipalities have a mechanism to take over a property if there happens to be an inordinate amount of criminal activity from a single address. We were well on the way to this (years, not weeks or months) when the landlord finally served the 7 day pay or quit. Keep reporting activity at the house, any petty theft. If you see people riding a bike towing another bike? Probably stole it. Call it in. If you hear noises at night outside your city's quiet hours (you probably have some), call it in. If the dealer revs his engine of his car without a muffler all hours? Call it in. If you ever see children at all involved? Call that shit in. The fastest police response we ever had was when children were involved. Also, we did receive some minor (IMO) retaliation for our repeated reports. My car had loose change stolen a couple times, we had jugs of urine thrown in our yard, the dealer would spray our dog with his hose at the fence, and my car window eventually got broken. But once those houses were cleaned out, the street was like night and day. So much better. The whole neighborhood was going through a lot of gentrification, so a lot different than your HOA neighborhood. We were also up the street from the jail, so drug offenders would get released and walk like zombies up the street to the dealer houses. Not anymore. If this type of stuff scares you, list your house and move. If everything else about your area is great, you can play the long game and maybe get this house taken care of. Drug dealers are basically everywhere though. So no guarantee that a move solves your problem. You will have to be an annoying, squeaky wheel. But you'll get grease after long enough.

This isn’t really advice, but I feel like it should be said. I think you’re making a bit of a leap blaming one person on your street for ALL of these problems you’ve had with break ins. Although it’s going to sound like I’m trying to take the drug dealers side, do you even have proof that he is in fact selling drugs? Sorry to be a contrarian, but this seems a bit witch-huntey to me.

aa3yx4

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How do I get rid of the drug dealer on my street? xpost from /r/NoStupidQuestions https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/aa3l0n/how\_do\_i\_get\_rid\_of\_the\_drug\_dealer\_on\_my\_street/ ​ Phoenix, AZ ​ My wife and I purchased a house as newlyweds two years ago in a well-regarded neighborhood. The first year we lived here, we has issues with our garage door. It had issues with closing (essentially, direct sunlight would sometimes trip the garage door safety sensor). One day, garage door was left open while my wife was at work (I was out of town). We had a tool box and tools stolen (about $500 in value). That was a dumb thing on our part. We replaced the garage door safety sensors and moved on with our lives. About 8 months later, I ran an errand early one morning. I stopped home for about 90 seconds (just long enough to run inside to grab the puppy) and left the garage door open. When I came back out, there was someone in my garage, rummaging through my car. I chased the guy off, but it was a scary thing to have happen. We reported both incidents to the police. I was talking with some neighbors about what had happened to us; they mentioned that we do have some fairly shady people driving down our street because of a drug dealer who lives about 6 houses down from mine. Talking with other neighbors, this seems to be a well-known fact around here. I purchased a 4k security camera system, which does not cover the direction of the drug dealers house (it's blocked by trees), but I do get full-length view of the street in the other direction. (Note: I also work from home when I'm not traveling, so I make mental notes about things that happen.) There have been a number of thefts on our small section of the street which is not directly connected to main road and does not appear to affect people outside of a direct path of the drug dealers house. We have people who are on the same street, but on the other side of a 4-way stop without any issues. There seems to be two specific paths that people take to the dealers house. This is based on how our road eventually connects to main roads in correlation with areas where we have issues with crimes of opportunity. Some additional notes: \- The first theft and second attempt were by two different people. The two guys stole the tool box, I know what they looked like and the description of the car they drove. My neighbor had outdoor 1080p cameras (the neighbor has moved recently and the cameras went with him). The second guy I know what not with the first two, because I saw him and chased him off my self. \- The dealer has high traffic time between at lunch time on weekdays and late nigh hours up until about 3am. There seems to always be a steady steam of cars. Some times the people that pickup the drugs park down the street and wait for a bit before driving to the dealers house. \- Talked with most of my neighbors around the neighborhood while out walking my dog. \- I submitted a tip on the DEA's website \- I informed the HoA \- The drug dealer owns the house. The house is not registered as a rental and the owner lists that location as their primary mailing address. The license plate of car that is at the normally at the house is the same name on the deed of the home. \- The neighbors had informed the police and try to report suspicious activity, nothing has come from it. Two police cars have driven down our street at 3am for 9 minutes on Christmas day. I dont know what happened but showed up on my cameras. \- In a 6 month period of time, we had 4 accidents on our street, can confirm with pictures. Honestly, there are times I do not feel safe in my own home. Moving can be an option, but other than the drug dealer it is a really nice neighborhood. I want the drug dealer gone.

ecp9iya

ecpeaz8

Not a lawyer, but dealt with a dealer house next door (and 2 across the street... it was not a good neighborhood when we moved in). Ours was somewhat easier because it was a rental and the owner was not pleased, the cops took every call seriously, and the renter was eventually evicted. BUT, we didn't know right away that the owner would care and several neighbors repeatedly called in all suspicious activity. Eventually we made reports to our city about a "nuisance property" because of all the crime reports from a single address. Many municipalities have a mechanism to take over a property if there happens to be an inordinate amount of criminal activity from a single address. We were well on the way to this (years, not weeks or months) when the landlord finally served the 7 day pay or quit. Keep reporting activity at the house, any petty theft. If you see people riding a bike towing another bike? Probably stole it. Call it in. If you hear noises at night outside your city's quiet hours (you probably have some), call it in. If the dealer revs his engine of his car without a muffler all hours? Call it in. If you ever see children at all involved? Call that shit in. The fastest police response we ever had was when children were involved. Also, we did receive some minor (IMO) retaliation for our repeated reports. My car had loose change stolen a couple times, we had jugs of urine thrown in our yard, the dealer would spray our dog with his hose at the fence, and my car window eventually got broken. But once those houses were cleaned out, the street was like night and day. So much better. The whole neighborhood was going through a lot of gentrification, so a lot different than your HOA neighborhood. We were also up the street from the jail, so drug offenders would get released and walk like zombies up the street to the dealer houses. Not anymore. If this type of stuff scares you, list your house and move. If everything else about your area is great, you can play the long game and maybe get this house taken care of. Drug dealers are basically everywhere though. So no guarantee that a move solves your problem. You will have to be an annoying, squeaky wheel. But you'll get grease after long enough.

Call the police about every suspicious thing going on. To you it might feel like nothing is happening, but things are. Foremost you don't know it's an actual drug house other than hearsay which is why things aren't done immediately. The police need to build cases and information before doing anything or getting warrants signed and executed. That's where you come in and report suspicious activity. Vehicles coming and going from the residence without staying long? Call the police. People walking through your back yard? Call the police. Car broken into or people peering into it at night? Call the police. Your neighbor is making a ton of noise at night? Call the police.

c32ilm

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

ero6hh9

erolfux

Sounds like you got a lawsuit on your hands.

Take photos of everything as evidence, then try and ask the cops to come around and make a police report. After that, you need to sue them in small claims.

c32ilm

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

erokf3c

erolfux

not legal advice. You should find the breaker in your electrical panel which controls the outside outlet and shut it off as a first step.

Take photos of everything as evidence, then try and ask the cops to come around and make a police report. After that, you need to sue them in small claims.

c32ilm

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

erolfux

ero6g47

Take photos of everything as evidence, then try and ask the cops to come around and make a police report. After that, you need to sue them in small claims.

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

eroy24v

ero6hh9

ALL Central AC units have to be hardwired to a junction box with a disconnect switch. They’re also 220 volts, whereas the average power outlet is 120V. They also would not be able to handle the wattage of a Central AC unit. I would double check that their AC unit is actually connected to your electrical system before taking any action. Go unplug it if it actually has a plug. If it is direct wired, go flip off your AC breaker at the panel and see if their outside unit turns off. You’ll want to verify this. Your neighbors could get in serious trouble for 1.) Making unauthorized electrical alterations 2.) violating building codes by making unsafely connecting their AC to your electrical system (if it is just a plug somehow) 3.) tampering with your property.

Sounds like you got a lawsuit on your hands.

c32ilm

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

erot2cq

eroy24v

The crime you want to report is "Theft of Services", found in Section 165.15 of the NYS penal code. You can actually report it to the power company first. They take these things VERY seriously. (Usually, the criminals bypass the meter itself so NOBODY pays for the electricity, but they'll be equally outraged by him sticking you with the bill.) They have a system for documenting and reporting this crime so it actually gets handled, and with prejudice. If that turns out to be incorrect in your city somehow, then call the police and report it yourself. The power company may just make adjustments to your bill to reflect the overuse. I wouldn't hold my BREATH FOR THIS... but it's worth asking once politely, once emphatically, and once to a manager before giving up. If they don't, you can sue him in small claims. The annoying part is that you can't PROVE when it started, and you can't PROVE exactly how many kwh it used. The power company can compare bills and maybe give you an estimate that the judge will take under consideration. The manufacturer probably publishes an 'estimated yearly cost' to run the unit too... but that's going to be the lowest possible number they can manage, because they're trying to sell the damned things, and it will of course depend on the local climate and the user's preference for cold. But start with the power company, then the police. You may get satisfaction one of those ways without having to sue.

ALL Central AC units have to be hardwired to a junction box with a disconnect switch. They’re also 220 volts, whereas the average power outlet is 120V. They also would not be able to handle the wattage of a Central AC unit. I would double check that their AC unit is actually connected to your electrical system before taking any action. Go unplug it if it actually has a plug. If it is direct wired, go flip off your AC breaker at the panel and see if their outside unit turns off. You’ll want to verify this. Your neighbors could get in serious trouble for 1.) Making unauthorized electrical alterations 2.) violating building codes by making unsafely connecting their AC to your electrical system (if it is just a plug somehow) 3.) tampering with your property.

c32ilm

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

eromp2r

eroy24v

I would leave it on and call the police and Press charges. Ask for restitution. You might have to ask the DA for that. It’s easier than a civil suite. Take pictures. Most central air is direct wired. This means they changed to a plug explicitly to steal your power. Then call the power company. They have their own investigators. Also get your power bills together to show all your costs.

ALL Central AC units have to be hardwired to a junction box with a disconnect switch. They’re also 220 volts, whereas the average power outlet is 120V. They also would not be able to handle the wattage of a Central AC unit. I would double check that their AC unit is actually connected to your electrical system before taking any action. Go unplug it if it actually has a plug. If it is direct wired, go flip off your AC breaker at the panel and see if their outside unit turns off. You’ll want to verify this. Your neighbors could get in serious trouble for 1.) Making unauthorized electrical alterations 2.) violating building codes by making unsafely connecting their AC to your electrical system (if it is just a plug somehow) 3.) tampering with your property.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

eroy24v

erokf3c

ALL Central AC units have to be hardwired to a junction box with a disconnect switch. They’re also 220 volts, whereas the average power outlet is 120V. They also would not be able to handle the wattage of a Central AC unit. I would double check that their AC unit is actually connected to your electrical system before taking any action. Go unplug it if it actually has a plug. If it is direct wired, go flip off your AC breaker at the panel and see if their outside unit turns off. You’ll want to verify this. Your neighbors could get in serious trouble for 1.) Making unauthorized electrical alterations 2.) violating building codes by making unsafely connecting their AC to your electrical system (if it is just a plug somehow) 3.) tampering with your property.

not legal advice. You should find the breaker in your electrical panel which controls the outside outlet and shut it off as a first step.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

eroy24v

erov0ac

ALL Central AC units have to be hardwired to a junction box with a disconnect switch. They’re also 220 volts, whereas the average power outlet is 120V. They also would not be able to handle the wattage of a Central AC unit. I would double check that their AC unit is actually connected to your electrical system before taking any action. Go unplug it if it actually has a plug. If it is direct wired, go flip off your AC breaker at the panel and see if their outside unit turns off. You’ll want to verify this. Your neighbors could get in serious trouble for 1.) Making unauthorized electrical alterations 2.) violating building codes by making unsafely connecting their AC to your electrical system (if it is just a plug somehow) 3.) tampering with your property.

FWIW, before you unplug anything if you decide to, central air (condensing unit assembly) is generally wired for 220v and unless you have a 40 amp 220v receptacle outside, that is pretty dangerous. Don't yank it running at the VERY least.

c32ilm

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

eroxofw

eroy24v

In addition to legal action, you should get a locking cover for your exterior electrical outlets.

ALL Central AC units have to be hardwired to a junction box with a disconnect switch. They’re also 220 volts, whereas the average power outlet is 120V. They also would not be able to handle the wattage of a Central AC unit. I would double check that their AC unit is actually connected to your electrical system before taking any action. Go unplug it if it actually has a plug. If it is direct wired, go flip off your AC breaker at the panel and see if their outside unit turns off. You’ll want to verify this. Your neighbors could get in serious trouble for 1.) Making unauthorized electrical alterations 2.) violating building codes by making unsafely connecting their AC to your electrical system (if it is just a plug somehow) 3.) tampering with your property.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

eroy24v

ero6g47

ALL Central AC units have to be hardwired to a junction box with a disconnect switch. They’re also 220 volts, whereas the average power outlet is 120V. They also would not be able to handle the wattage of a Central AC unit. I would double check that their AC unit is actually connected to your electrical system before taking any action. Go unplug it if it actually has a plug. If it is direct wired, go flip off your AC breaker at the panel and see if their outside unit turns off. You’ll want to verify this. Your neighbors could get in serious trouble for 1.) Making unauthorized electrical alterations 2.) violating building codes by making unsafely connecting their AC to your electrical system (if it is just a plug somehow) 3.) tampering with your property.

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

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ero6hh9

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Sounds like you got a lawsuit on your hands.

c32ilm

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

eromp2r

erot2cq

I would leave it on and call the police and Press charges. Ask for restitution. You might have to ask the DA for that. It’s easier than a civil suite. Take pictures. Most central air is direct wired. This means they changed to a plug explicitly to steal your power. Then call the power company. They have their own investigators. Also get your power bills together to show all your costs.

The crime you want to report is "Theft of Services", found in Section 165.15 of the NYS penal code. You can actually report it to the power company first. They take these things VERY seriously. (Usually, the criminals bypass the meter itself so NOBODY pays for the electricity, but they'll be equally outraged by him sticking you with the bill.) They have a system for documenting and reporting this crime so it actually gets handled, and with prejudice. If that turns out to be incorrect in your city somehow, then call the police and report it yourself. The power company may just make adjustments to your bill to reflect the overuse. I wouldn't hold my BREATH FOR THIS... but it's worth asking once politely, once emphatically, and once to a manager before giving up. If they don't, you can sue him in small claims. The annoying part is that you can't PROVE when it started, and you can't PROVE exactly how many kwh it used. The power company can compare bills and maybe give you an estimate that the judge will take under consideration. The manufacturer probably publishes an 'estimated yearly cost' to run the unit too... but that's going to be the lowest possible number they can manage, because they're trying to sell the damned things, and it will of course depend on the local climate and the user's preference for cold. But start with the power company, then the police. You may get satisfaction one of those ways without having to sue.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

erokf3c

erot2cq

not legal advice. You should find the breaker in your electrical panel which controls the outside outlet and shut it off as a first step.

The crime you want to report is "Theft of Services", found in Section 165.15 of the NYS penal code. You can actually report it to the power company first. They take these things VERY seriously. (Usually, the criminals bypass the meter itself so NOBODY pays for the electricity, but they'll be equally outraged by him sticking you with the bill.) They have a system for documenting and reporting this crime so it actually gets handled, and with prejudice. If that turns out to be incorrect in your city somehow, then call the police and report it yourself. The power company may just make adjustments to your bill to reflect the overuse. I wouldn't hold my BREATH FOR THIS... but it's worth asking once politely, once emphatically, and once to a manager before giving up. If they don't, you can sue him in small claims. The annoying part is that you can't PROVE when it started, and you can't PROVE exactly how many kwh it used. The power company can compare bills and maybe give you an estimate that the judge will take under consideration. The manufacturer probably publishes an 'estimated yearly cost' to run the unit too... but that's going to be the lowest possible number they can manage, because they're trying to sell the damned things, and it will of course depend on the local climate and the user's preference for cold. But start with the power company, then the police. You may get satisfaction one of those ways without having to sue.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

erot2cq

ero6g47

The crime you want to report is "Theft of Services", found in Section 165.15 of the NYS penal code. You can actually report it to the power company first. They take these things VERY seriously. (Usually, the criminals bypass the meter itself so NOBODY pays for the electricity, but they'll be equally outraged by him sticking you with the bill.) They have a system for documenting and reporting this crime so it actually gets handled, and with prejudice. If that turns out to be incorrect in your city somehow, then call the police and report it yourself. The power company may just make adjustments to your bill to reflect the overuse. I wouldn't hold my BREATH FOR THIS... but it's worth asking once politely, once emphatically, and once to a manager before giving up. If they don't, you can sue him in small claims. The annoying part is that you can't PROVE when it started, and you can't PROVE exactly how many kwh it used. The power company can compare bills and maybe give you an estimate that the judge will take under consideration. The manufacturer probably publishes an 'estimated yearly cost' to run the unit too... but that's going to be the lowest possible number they can manage, because they're trying to sell the damned things, and it will of course depend on the local climate and the user's preference for cold. But start with the power company, then the police. You may get satisfaction one of those ways without having to sue.

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c32ilm

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[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

erokf3c

eromp2r

not legal advice. You should find the breaker in your electrical panel which controls the outside outlet and shut it off as a first step.

I would leave it on and call the police and Press charges. Ask for restitution. You might have to ask the DA for that. It’s easier than a civil suite. Take pictures. Most central air is direct wired. This means they changed to a plug explicitly to steal your power. Then call the power company. They have their own investigators. Also get your power bills together to show all your costs.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

ero6g47

eromp2r

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I would leave it on and call the police and Press charges. Ask for restitution. You might have to ask the DA for that. It’s easier than a civil suite. Take pictures. Most central air is direct wired. This means they changed to a plug explicitly to steal your power. Then call the power company. They have their own investigators. Also get your power bills together to show all your costs.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

ero6g47

erokf3c

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not legal advice. You should find the breaker in your electrical panel which controls the outside outlet and shut it off as a first step.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

ero6g47

erov0ac

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FWIW, before you unplug anything if you decide to, central air (condensing unit assembly) is generally wired for 220v and unless you have a 40 amp 220v receptacle outside, that is pretty dangerous. Don't yank it running at the VERY least.

c32ilm

legaladvice_train

[NYS] My townhome neighbor has been stealing my electricity for at least a year. I only just discovered it. Location: New York State ​ I live in a townhome community (rental). Each unit has their own utility meter. In the last year, my electricity bills (especially in the summer) were much higher than usual. I've lived here for 4 years, but the summer electric bills last year were nearly $500/month compared to my usual $120-150/month from other summers. I'm a penny pincher, so I rarely turn on my central ac, turn lights off, and unplug things when I leave for more than a day. My neighbors though are constantly blasting their air conditioning (I can hear it when the central air unit outside is on). I walked out my back door this afternoon for the first time in over a year. (There's not much there. Just overgrown grass and mud, so I rarely feel the urge to go out there). But I saw that my neighbor had plugged their central ac unit into my outside outlet. So in other words, I've been paying for their air conditioning for an undetermined amount of time. But if my electric bills are any indication, at least a year.

ero6g47

eroxofw

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In addition to legal action, you should get a locking cover for your exterior electrical outlets.

wxzcfy

legaladvice_train

[California] Crazy Neighbor Keeps Shutting Off My Electricity Hi all, Got a weird one for you. I have a crazy neighbor. Like actually crazy - talks about aliens and randomly cusses in his backyard at invisible people. Turns out he also likes to shut off people's electricity. I live in a townhome where our electrical panels are outside the building and unlocked. A few months back, my power went out and I had no idea why so I called an electrician since none of my breakers were tripped. Turns out the outside panel was switched off. Weird, we figured it was a neighborhood kid or something. But the panel happens to be close to one of the windows where I work, so now I'm on the lookout for my building in case it happens again. Turns out it's a full grown man. I was in disbelief at first and just shouted 'why' out the window and in response he flipped me off and ran away. Keep in mind I recently moved in so nobody should have a beef with me so far, especially not somebody I don't even know. I called the police and they told me since the panel is an open access panel no crime was committed and it is a civil matter. I was a bit shocked that anybody can turn off our building's power without consequence. I asked around, and turns out people in my building know him. Local crazy neighbor. So now I have his address and name. My question is, what can I do if he keeps shutting off our power? Our HOA said they would look into adding a lock for the panel but are concerned about emergency access with a lock so they may not add one. Off the top of my head I considered suing for damages if he shuts off my power while I'm working from home or something, just to have him face some sort of minor consequence. Just really surprised it's not a criminal act and not sure where to go from here. I can think of a lot of actions to remedy this that aren't legal but I'd love to hear what I can do legally.

ilv51jw

iluyxr6

Might be worth a call to Adult protective services, especially if the cops give you the runaround. APS might be able to give you solutions that enable him to get the help that he might need while saving you the time and money of a legal battle.

You might be able to put him through small claims for the electrician costs just to add a hassle that hopefully acts as a deterrent. An auditory alarm when the the door is opened might be a deterrent that doesn’t impede an actual emergency, consider solutions they use for fire extinguishers for example.

wxzcfy

legaladvice_train

[California] Crazy Neighbor Keeps Shutting Off My Electricity Hi all, Got a weird one for you. I have a crazy neighbor. Like actually crazy - talks about aliens and randomly cusses in his backyard at invisible people. Turns out he also likes to shut off people's electricity. I live in a townhome where our electrical panels are outside the building and unlocked. A few months back, my power went out and I had no idea why so I called an electrician since none of my breakers were tripped. Turns out the outside panel was switched off. Weird, we figured it was a neighborhood kid or something. But the panel happens to be close to one of the windows where I work, so now I'm on the lookout for my building in case it happens again. Turns out it's a full grown man. I was in disbelief at first and just shouted 'why' out the window and in response he flipped me off and ran away. Keep in mind I recently moved in so nobody should have a beef with me so far, especially not somebody I don't even know. I called the police and they told me since the panel is an open access panel no crime was committed and it is a civil matter. I was a bit shocked that anybody can turn off our building's power without consequence. I asked around, and turns out people in my building know him. Local crazy neighbor. So now I have his address and name. My question is, what can I do if he keeps shutting off our power? Our HOA said they would look into adding a lock for the panel but are concerned about emergency access with a lock so they may not add one. Off the top of my head I considered suing for damages if he shuts off my power while I'm working from home or something, just to have him face some sort of minor consequence. Just really surprised it's not a criminal act and not sure where to go from here. I can think of a lot of actions to remedy this that aren't legal but I'd love to hear what I can do legally.

ilvtsxg

ilvuuv9

>I called the police and they told me since the panel is an open access panel no crime was committed and it is a civil matter. Post the property with "no trespassing" signs. As a result, a stranger must trespass to get to your panel, and police will have a criminal offense to cite him or arrest him for next time you report. Install a motion activated camera to have a proof of who does it next time. > Turns out he also likes to shut off people's electricity. Put a padlock on the box? All my electrical boxes have a small hole for a padlock. That's what I'd do myself.

The easiest solution is to just push the HOA for a lock. Emergency access? If it’s that much of an emergency, they can just cut the lock. You can always just add the lock yourself.

3sh4bx

legaladvice_train

Caught neighbor stealing my tools, he brought them back. Press charges? Evening yall I own a painting/restoration company serving historic downtown Savannah. I've had my own business for 10 months, and currently store all my equipment in a trailer that I tow to the jobsite and leave parked on the street outside my house. I caught my neighbor stealing tools out of the trailer on four security cameras I had installed on the house (figured if my stuff is under monitoring it would be okay). He came in and out of the trailer three times and took +/- $750 worth of tools. It doesn't seem like much but I havent made it through my first year of business. I ran into the suspects' girlfriend outside and told her I saw someone on camera, and she ID'd him as her boyfriend. An hour later a sobbing 25 year old who I have hired in the past comes to my door with a giant box full of my tools. I kicked him off my property and now I don't know what to do. I've already filed a police report and I know he would not have returned the tools if I didn't have my cameras. Forensics comes by in the morning to copy the recordings of the breaking and entering. Any help would be great. thank you reddit.

cwxlzae

cwxjp9n

If you didn't catch him on video, that schmuck would have never returned your shit. Now he's going to do it to another neighbor. Call the cops and give them a copy of the video.

Next time he'll be more careful. As in opt to break into a business that doesn't have cameras or figure out how to hide his identity better.

7fq3sb

legaladvice_train

ON, CAN] Not so Neighborly Neighbor, Tree Law, Lame Paint Diagram. Hoped I would never have to make my own post on this sub, but here we are. So, we own an oddly shaped 5 acre corner lot in rural Ontario. There are three properties next to ours that are all serviced by a public access/right of way road. The lot that shares a border with ours has zero road frontage, and is only accessible by this public access road. It was recently purchased by an out-of-town real estate agent. She is only there occasionally, and has been fixing up the previously unfinished buildings. We are far enough apart, and there is some heavy forest between us, so we cannot see her property from our house. Every so often, we do a "walk about" on our heavily treed land, mostly just for fun. Yesterday while hiking around, we noticed a few troubling things happening. First, we noticed a large swath of land completely and recently excavated for what appears to be a buried Hydro line, which is buried and coiled by the pole awaiting connection. Speaking with another neighbor who is on the next property over, he said that Hydro One wouldn't excavate the land, as she did not own it, so she had an outside company come in and do it. There is currently an overhead wire crossing this area of land (blue line on my fancy diagram). There is absolutely NO easement on this part of the land, according to our survey. I understand we may not own the airspace, and the overhead wire is fine. I would even be fine with her keeping the trees trimmed and out of the way of her line, but she has cleared a ~30' wide path right across our land to do this. All tree stumps have been removed, the area is a torn up mess. Then further down the way, we see a few cut stumps, clearly on our property. These stumps are 18" to 22" in diameter, but I cannot tell the species. We have an arborist coming this week to help us there, and hopefully provide a quote. Just beyond that, there is a huge cleared area, completely on our property, absolutely excavated, leveled, and covered in sand. Adjacent to this, about 15' onto her property is a brand new septic bed. Not sure if our property was cleared for this purpose, but there we go. On this cleared area, there is a bunch of giant logs, presumably what was once our trees, a bunch of piles of bricks/debris/random stuff covered in big blue tarps. There is also an old tarped trailer half on our property as well, but not pictured because I suck and scale. Further, we noticed she must have had her own survey done recently, because there are nice fresh new poles near all the previously existing markers. So, I am somewhat convinced this wasn't an "oops, my bad" situation. There were old markers there before her arrival, as well as the buried iron markers, right along side the shiny new red and white poles. The big cleared area with all the junk is right beside one of these markers (but on our side of the line). Also also, she has put several "No Trespassing" signs a good 25' onto our property, facing the road. I think she is basically just trying to take over all the land between hers and the road. Anyway, here's what I have done so far - got her contact info from nice-old-guy-salt-of-the-earth-neighbor on the next property over. He did let us know she is "quite a force to be reckoned with, like a tornado comin' through here, oh boy." I have not contacted her at all. (I've never even met her). We got some of that orange survey tape, and tied it between all the markers between our property line and hers, to make it even more obvious where the property lines are, so the pictures I took would clearly show just how much junk is on our property, where the land is cleared, the trees cut, and the no trespassing signs are. I emailed Hydro One (haven't heard back) to insist that the work stop immediately, as neighbor did not have permission to do this, and there was no easement that I was aware of to allow for this. I also apologized in advance if I was somehow mistaken, because Canadian, and I don't want to piss off my power company. A friend who previously was a line-man for Hydro said that the over head cables are fine, they don't need an easement for that if it is the only way to service a lot, but they won't go around clearing private land for buried lines without express permission. However, not sure how accurate that is. I also sent a very very brief email to the local bylaw saying that my neighbor had cut trees on my property, and asking them to contact me with the next steps. Weekend, so obviously haven't heard back from them either. My questions: What are the tree laws in Ontario like? I have read many a thread here about U.S. tree laws, but can't find much for Ontario. Google hasn't been overly fruitful either. On a civil level, is there any sense in pursing this matter beyond what I have already done? If it may be worth-while to pursue civilly, what happens when not even stumps exist anymore? The entire surrounding area is all mature trees/forested, so would it have to be restored to match the surrounding area? Once I do all my information gathering, should I draft a letter myself to her about removing junk, restoring cut trees, or would it be more advisable to have the lawyer that helped with the purchase of my home draft one for me? I know standard advice here is contact a lawyer, but with a civil matter, I'm wondering if I am careful and clever if I might be able to handle it myself without creating a total disaster. My reason for considering the DIY approach is the stories we have heard of her in the last day, I feel like a firm but polite letter from me might *might* prevent the all-out-war that I can assume will come my way if the letter is on my lawyer's letterhead. Thanks for reading, as promised, [lame paint diagram

dqdmgfa

dqdl644

I'm just going to touch on the trees. Go on Google Earth and see if you can capture pictures of the area before the cutting. That could help down the line.

This is almost certainly into lawyer territory because of the complexity. The overhead power line probably constitutes trespass. Property owners technically own the airspace above their property (to a certain extent) at common law. Assessment of damages will likely require some sort of expert. A lawyer can help you navigate the exact legal issues and procedures necessary to achieve a fair result in this case. The easiest way forward is probably to grant an easement for a price, although you are not obligated to do that.

7fq3sb

legaladvice_train

ON, CAN] Not so Neighborly Neighbor, Tree Law, Lame Paint Diagram. Hoped I would never have to make my own post on this sub, but here we are. So, we own an oddly shaped 5 acre corner lot in rural Ontario. There are three properties next to ours that are all serviced by a public access/right of way road. The lot that shares a border with ours has zero road frontage, and is only accessible by this public access road. It was recently purchased by an out-of-town real estate agent. She is only there occasionally, and has been fixing up the previously unfinished buildings. We are far enough apart, and there is some heavy forest between us, so we cannot see her property from our house. Every so often, we do a "walk about" on our heavily treed land, mostly just for fun. Yesterday while hiking around, we noticed a few troubling things happening. First, we noticed a large swath of land completely and recently excavated for what appears to be a buried Hydro line, which is buried and coiled by the pole awaiting connection. Speaking with another neighbor who is on the next property over, he said that Hydro One wouldn't excavate the land, as she did not own it, so she had an outside company come in and do it. There is currently an overhead wire crossing this area of land (blue line on my fancy diagram). There is absolutely NO easement on this part of the land, according to our survey. I understand we may not own the airspace, and the overhead wire is fine. I would even be fine with her keeping the trees trimmed and out of the way of her line, but she has cleared a ~30' wide path right across our land to do this. All tree stumps have been removed, the area is a torn up mess. Then further down the way, we see a few cut stumps, clearly on our property. These stumps are 18" to 22" in diameter, but I cannot tell the species. We have an arborist coming this week to help us there, and hopefully provide a quote. Just beyond that, there is a huge cleared area, completely on our property, absolutely excavated, leveled, and covered in sand. Adjacent to this, about 15' onto her property is a brand new septic bed. Not sure if our property was cleared for this purpose, but there we go. On this cleared area, there is a bunch of giant logs, presumably what was once our trees, a bunch of piles of bricks/debris/random stuff covered in big blue tarps. There is also an old tarped trailer half on our property as well, but not pictured because I suck and scale. Further, we noticed she must have had her own survey done recently, because there are nice fresh new poles near all the previously existing markers. So, I am somewhat convinced this wasn't an "oops, my bad" situation. There were old markers there before her arrival, as well as the buried iron markers, right along side the shiny new red and white poles. The big cleared area with all the junk is right beside one of these markers (but on our side of the line). Also also, she has put several "No Trespassing" signs a good 25' onto our property, facing the road. I think she is basically just trying to take over all the land between hers and the road. Anyway, here's what I have done so far - got her contact info from nice-old-guy-salt-of-the-earth-neighbor on the next property over. He did let us know she is "quite a force to be reckoned with, like a tornado comin' through here, oh boy." I have not contacted her at all. (I've never even met her). We got some of that orange survey tape, and tied it between all the markers between our property line and hers, to make it even more obvious where the property lines are, so the pictures I took would clearly show just how much junk is on our property, where the land is cleared, the trees cut, and the no trespassing signs are. I emailed Hydro One (haven't heard back) to insist that the work stop immediately, as neighbor did not have permission to do this, and there was no easement that I was aware of to allow for this. I also apologized in advance if I was somehow mistaken, because Canadian, and I don't want to piss off my power company. A friend who previously was a line-man for Hydro said that the over head cables are fine, they don't need an easement for that if it is the only way to service a lot, but they won't go around clearing private land for buried lines without express permission. However, not sure how accurate that is. I also sent a very very brief email to the local bylaw saying that my neighbor had cut trees on my property, and asking them to contact me with the next steps. Weekend, so obviously haven't heard back from them either. My questions: What are the tree laws in Ontario like? I have read many a thread here about U.S. tree laws, but can't find much for Ontario. Google hasn't been overly fruitful either. On a civil level, is there any sense in pursing this matter beyond what I have already done? If it may be worth-while to pursue civilly, what happens when not even stumps exist anymore? The entire surrounding area is all mature trees/forested, so would it have to be restored to match the surrounding area? Once I do all my information gathering, should I draft a letter myself to her about removing junk, restoring cut trees, or would it be more advisable to have the lawyer that helped with the purchase of my home draft one for me? I know standard advice here is contact a lawyer, but with a civil matter, I'm wondering if I am careful and clever if I might be able to handle it myself without creating a total disaster. My reason for considering the DIY approach is the stories we have heard of her in the last day, I feel like a firm but polite letter from me might *might* prevent the all-out-war that I can assume will come my way if the letter is on my lawyer's letterhead. Thanks for reading, as promised, [lame paint diagram

dqejd8r

dqew9i5

I don't think her contractor for the yard work is done. You should camp out waiting for them to arrive and inform them they have been working on the wrong property. If they refuse to leave call the police.

Does Canada have a real estate board that you can report her to. Cause if she is doing shady stuff like this, who knows how she does her real estate deals.

7fq3sb

legaladvice_train

ON, CAN] Not so Neighborly Neighbor, Tree Law, Lame Paint Diagram. Hoped I would never have to make my own post on this sub, but here we are. So, we own an oddly shaped 5 acre corner lot in rural Ontario. There are three properties next to ours that are all serviced by a public access/right of way road. The lot that shares a border with ours has zero road frontage, and is only accessible by this public access road. It was recently purchased by an out-of-town real estate agent. She is only there occasionally, and has been fixing up the previously unfinished buildings. We are far enough apart, and there is some heavy forest between us, so we cannot see her property from our house. Every so often, we do a "walk about" on our heavily treed land, mostly just for fun. Yesterday while hiking around, we noticed a few troubling things happening. First, we noticed a large swath of land completely and recently excavated for what appears to be a buried Hydro line, which is buried and coiled by the pole awaiting connection. Speaking with another neighbor who is on the next property over, he said that Hydro One wouldn't excavate the land, as she did not own it, so she had an outside company come in and do it. There is currently an overhead wire crossing this area of land (blue line on my fancy diagram). There is absolutely NO easement on this part of the land, according to our survey. I understand we may not own the airspace, and the overhead wire is fine. I would even be fine with her keeping the trees trimmed and out of the way of her line, but she has cleared a ~30' wide path right across our land to do this. All tree stumps have been removed, the area is a torn up mess. Then further down the way, we see a few cut stumps, clearly on our property. These stumps are 18" to 22" in diameter, but I cannot tell the species. We have an arborist coming this week to help us there, and hopefully provide a quote. Just beyond that, there is a huge cleared area, completely on our property, absolutely excavated, leveled, and covered in sand. Adjacent to this, about 15' onto her property is a brand new septic bed. Not sure if our property was cleared for this purpose, but there we go. On this cleared area, there is a bunch of giant logs, presumably what was once our trees, a bunch of piles of bricks/debris/random stuff covered in big blue tarps. There is also an old tarped trailer half on our property as well, but not pictured because I suck and scale. Further, we noticed she must have had her own survey done recently, because there are nice fresh new poles near all the previously existing markers. So, I am somewhat convinced this wasn't an "oops, my bad" situation. There were old markers there before her arrival, as well as the buried iron markers, right along side the shiny new red and white poles. The big cleared area with all the junk is right beside one of these markers (but on our side of the line). Also also, she has put several "No Trespassing" signs a good 25' onto our property, facing the road. I think she is basically just trying to take over all the land between hers and the road. Anyway, here's what I have done so far - got her contact info from nice-old-guy-salt-of-the-earth-neighbor on the next property over. He did let us know she is "quite a force to be reckoned with, like a tornado comin' through here, oh boy." I have not contacted her at all. (I've never even met her). We got some of that orange survey tape, and tied it between all the markers between our property line and hers, to make it even more obvious where the property lines are, so the pictures I took would clearly show just how much junk is on our property, where the land is cleared, the trees cut, and the no trespassing signs are. I emailed Hydro One (haven't heard back) to insist that the work stop immediately, as neighbor did not have permission to do this, and there was no easement that I was aware of to allow for this. I also apologized in advance if I was somehow mistaken, because Canadian, and I don't want to piss off my power company. A friend who previously was a line-man for Hydro said that the over head cables are fine, they don't need an easement for that if it is the only way to service a lot, but they won't go around clearing private land for buried lines without express permission. However, not sure how accurate that is. I also sent a very very brief email to the local bylaw saying that my neighbor had cut trees on my property, and asking them to contact me with the next steps. Weekend, so obviously haven't heard back from them either. My questions: What are the tree laws in Ontario like? I have read many a thread here about U.S. tree laws, but can't find much for Ontario. Google hasn't been overly fruitful either. On a civil level, is there any sense in pursing this matter beyond what I have already done? If it may be worth-while to pursue civilly, what happens when not even stumps exist anymore? The entire surrounding area is all mature trees/forested, so would it have to be restored to match the surrounding area? Once I do all my information gathering, should I draft a letter myself to her about removing junk, restoring cut trees, or would it be more advisable to have the lawyer that helped with the purchase of my home draft one for me? I know standard advice here is contact a lawyer, but with a civil matter, I'm wondering if I am careful and clever if I might be able to handle it myself without creating a total disaster. My reason for considering the DIY approach is the stories we have heard of her in the last day, I feel like a firm but polite letter from me might *might* prevent the all-out-war that I can assume will come my way if the letter is on my lawyer's letterhead. Thanks for reading, as promised, [lame paint diagram

dqejd8r

dqegb5w

I don't think her contractor for the yard work is done. You should camp out waiting for them to arrive and inform them they have been working on the wrong property. If they refuse to leave call the police.

If you still need an assist on tree law, ask a local architect. They have to stay current on zoning and tree laws. Local arborist, also. Good luck with this, and make the new neighbor cry.

7fq3sb

legaladvice_train

ON, CAN] Not so Neighborly Neighbor, Tree Law, Lame Paint Diagram. Hoped I would never have to make my own post on this sub, but here we are. So, we own an oddly shaped 5 acre corner lot in rural Ontario. There are three properties next to ours that are all serviced by a public access/right of way road. The lot that shares a border with ours has zero road frontage, and is only accessible by this public access road. It was recently purchased by an out-of-town real estate agent. She is only there occasionally, and has been fixing up the previously unfinished buildings. We are far enough apart, and there is some heavy forest between us, so we cannot see her property from our house. Every so often, we do a "walk about" on our heavily treed land, mostly just for fun. Yesterday while hiking around, we noticed a few troubling things happening. First, we noticed a large swath of land completely and recently excavated for what appears to be a buried Hydro line, which is buried and coiled by the pole awaiting connection. Speaking with another neighbor who is on the next property over, he said that Hydro One wouldn't excavate the land, as she did not own it, so she had an outside company come in and do it. There is currently an overhead wire crossing this area of land (blue line on my fancy diagram). There is absolutely NO easement on this part of the land, according to our survey. I understand we may not own the airspace, and the overhead wire is fine. I would even be fine with her keeping the trees trimmed and out of the way of her line, but she has cleared a ~30' wide path right across our land to do this. All tree stumps have been removed, the area is a torn up mess. Then further down the way, we see a few cut stumps, clearly on our property. These stumps are 18" to 22" in diameter, but I cannot tell the species. We have an arborist coming this week to help us there, and hopefully provide a quote. Just beyond that, there is a huge cleared area, completely on our property, absolutely excavated, leveled, and covered in sand. Adjacent to this, about 15' onto her property is a brand new septic bed. Not sure if our property was cleared for this purpose, but there we go. On this cleared area, there is a bunch of giant logs, presumably what was once our trees, a bunch of piles of bricks/debris/random stuff covered in big blue tarps. There is also an old tarped trailer half on our property as well, but not pictured because I suck and scale. Further, we noticed she must have had her own survey done recently, because there are nice fresh new poles near all the previously existing markers. So, I am somewhat convinced this wasn't an "oops, my bad" situation. There were old markers there before her arrival, as well as the buried iron markers, right along side the shiny new red and white poles. The big cleared area with all the junk is right beside one of these markers (but on our side of the line). Also also, she has put several "No Trespassing" signs a good 25' onto our property, facing the road. I think she is basically just trying to take over all the land between hers and the road. Anyway, here's what I have done so far - got her contact info from nice-old-guy-salt-of-the-earth-neighbor on the next property over. He did let us know she is "quite a force to be reckoned with, like a tornado comin' through here, oh boy." I have not contacted her at all. (I've never even met her). We got some of that orange survey tape, and tied it between all the markers between our property line and hers, to make it even more obvious where the property lines are, so the pictures I took would clearly show just how much junk is on our property, where the land is cleared, the trees cut, and the no trespassing signs are. I emailed Hydro One (haven't heard back) to insist that the work stop immediately, as neighbor did not have permission to do this, and there was no easement that I was aware of to allow for this. I also apologized in advance if I was somehow mistaken, because Canadian, and I don't want to piss off my power company. A friend who previously was a line-man for Hydro said that the over head cables are fine, they don't need an easement for that if it is the only way to service a lot, but they won't go around clearing private land for buried lines without express permission. However, not sure how accurate that is. I also sent a very very brief email to the local bylaw saying that my neighbor had cut trees on my property, and asking them to contact me with the next steps. Weekend, so obviously haven't heard back from them either. My questions: What are the tree laws in Ontario like? I have read many a thread here about U.S. tree laws, but can't find much for Ontario. Google hasn't been overly fruitful either. On a civil level, is there any sense in pursing this matter beyond what I have already done? If it may be worth-while to pursue civilly, what happens when not even stumps exist anymore? The entire surrounding area is all mature trees/forested, so would it have to be restored to match the surrounding area? Once I do all my information gathering, should I draft a letter myself to her about removing junk, restoring cut trees, or would it be more advisable to have the lawyer that helped with the purchase of my home draft one for me? I know standard advice here is contact a lawyer, but with a civil matter, I'm wondering if I am careful and clever if I might be able to handle it myself without creating a total disaster. My reason for considering the DIY approach is the stories we have heard of her in the last day, I feel like a firm but polite letter from me might *might* prevent the all-out-war that I can assume will come my way if the letter is on my lawyer's letterhead. Thanks for reading, as promised, [lame paint diagram

dqew9i5

dqegb5w

Does Canada have a real estate board that you can report her to. Cause if she is doing shady stuff like this, who knows how she does her real estate deals.

If you still need an assist on tree law, ask a local architect. They have to stay current on zoning and tree laws. Local arborist, also. Good luck with this, and make the new neighbor cry.

7fq3sb

legaladvice_train

ON, CAN] Not so Neighborly Neighbor, Tree Law, Lame Paint Diagram. Hoped I would never have to make my own post on this sub, but here we are. So, we own an oddly shaped 5 acre corner lot in rural Ontario. There are three properties next to ours that are all serviced by a public access/right of way road. The lot that shares a border with ours has zero road frontage, and is only accessible by this public access road. It was recently purchased by an out-of-town real estate agent. She is only there occasionally, and has been fixing up the previously unfinished buildings. We are far enough apart, and there is some heavy forest between us, so we cannot see her property from our house. Every so often, we do a "walk about" on our heavily treed land, mostly just for fun. Yesterday while hiking around, we noticed a few troubling things happening. First, we noticed a large swath of land completely and recently excavated for what appears to be a buried Hydro line, which is buried and coiled by the pole awaiting connection. Speaking with another neighbor who is on the next property over, he said that Hydro One wouldn't excavate the land, as she did not own it, so she had an outside company come in and do it. There is currently an overhead wire crossing this area of land (blue line on my fancy diagram). There is absolutely NO easement on this part of the land, according to our survey. I understand we may not own the airspace, and the overhead wire is fine. I would even be fine with her keeping the trees trimmed and out of the way of her line, but she has cleared a ~30' wide path right across our land to do this. All tree stumps have been removed, the area is a torn up mess. Then further down the way, we see a few cut stumps, clearly on our property. These stumps are 18" to 22" in diameter, but I cannot tell the species. We have an arborist coming this week to help us there, and hopefully provide a quote. Just beyond that, there is a huge cleared area, completely on our property, absolutely excavated, leveled, and covered in sand. Adjacent to this, about 15' onto her property is a brand new septic bed. Not sure if our property was cleared for this purpose, but there we go. On this cleared area, there is a bunch of giant logs, presumably what was once our trees, a bunch of piles of bricks/debris/random stuff covered in big blue tarps. There is also an old tarped trailer half on our property as well, but not pictured because I suck and scale. Further, we noticed she must have had her own survey done recently, because there are nice fresh new poles near all the previously existing markers. So, I am somewhat convinced this wasn't an "oops, my bad" situation. There were old markers there before her arrival, as well as the buried iron markers, right along side the shiny new red and white poles. The big cleared area with all the junk is right beside one of these markers (but on our side of the line). Also also, she has put several "No Trespassing" signs a good 25' onto our property, facing the road. I think she is basically just trying to take over all the land between hers and the road. Anyway, here's what I have done so far - got her contact info from nice-old-guy-salt-of-the-earth-neighbor on the next property over. He did let us know she is "quite a force to be reckoned with, like a tornado comin' through here, oh boy." I have not contacted her at all. (I've never even met her). We got some of that orange survey tape, and tied it between all the markers between our property line and hers, to make it even more obvious where the property lines are, so the pictures I took would clearly show just how much junk is on our property, where the land is cleared, the trees cut, and the no trespassing signs are. I emailed Hydro One (haven't heard back) to insist that the work stop immediately, as neighbor did not have permission to do this, and there was no easement that I was aware of to allow for this. I also apologized in advance if I was somehow mistaken, because Canadian, and I don't want to piss off my power company. A friend who previously was a line-man for Hydro said that the over head cables are fine, they don't need an easement for that if it is the only way to service a lot, but they won't go around clearing private land for buried lines without express permission. However, not sure how accurate that is. I also sent a very very brief email to the local bylaw saying that my neighbor had cut trees on my property, and asking them to contact me with the next steps. Weekend, so obviously haven't heard back from them either. My questions: What are the tree laws in Ontario like? I have read many a thread here about U.S. tree laws, but can't find much for Ontario. Google hasn't been overly fruitful either. On a civil level, is there any sense in pursing this matter beyond what I have already done? If it may be worth-while to pursue civilly, what happens when not even stumps exist anymore? The entire surrounding area is all mature trees/forested, so would it have to be restored to match the surrounding area? Once I do all my information gathering, should I draft a letter myself to her about removing junk, restoring cut trees, or would it be more advisable to have the lawyer that helped with the purchase of my home draft one for me? I know standard advice here is contact a lawyer, but with a civil matter, I'm wondering if I am careful and clever if I might be able to handle it myself without creating a total disaster. My reason for considering the DIY approach is the stories we have heard of her in the last day, I feel like a firm but polite letter from me might *might* prevent the all-out-war that I can assume will come my way if the letter is on my lawyer's letterhead. Thanks for reading, as promised, [lame paint diagram

dqew9i5

dqetcob

Does Canada have a real estate board that you can report her to. Cause if she is doing shady stuff like this, who knows how she does her real estate deals.

I see you already have a lawyer. Yay. So I just want to say, after all is said and done, congrats on your new piece of land! Because the way it's looking, she will have to sell it to make it right, or just hand it over to you.

74utdn

legaladvice_train

(CA) Neighbor keeps inviting people to park in my gated drive-way. What happens if I lock the gate and refuse to let neighbor's guests access their cars? I have a gated drive way I leave open during the day for a multitude of reasons. My neighbor keeps telling people they can park in my driveway even though there is ample street parking and he has his own driveway with extra spaces. I have asked him many times to not have his guests park on my property but he just tells me I have lots of space so he doesn't see what the problem is. The next time this happens, if I just lock my gate with his guest's cars in there and go on vacation for a few days, or just flat out tell them they're not welcome onto my property, what would happen? Could I get in any legal trouble? Yes, I'm aware calling to get the cars towed is an option, but I'm feeling really petty right now and want to make them wait a few hours or days to get their cars.

do1b0qs

do1az8b

Why not just post a sign that says "private property no parking all violators will be towed." And then have them towed?

If your neighbor is telling his guests to park in your driveway, they probably think you're okay with that. Put up an "absolutely no parking" sign so at least the guests have some clue that the neighbor is being an asshole.

74utdn

legaladvice_train

(CA) Neighbor keeps inviting people to park in my gated drive-way. What happens if I lock the gate and refuse to let neighbor's guests access their cars? I have a gated drive way I leave open during the day for a multitude of reasons. My neighbor keeps telling people they can park in my driveway even though there is ample street parking and he has his own driveway with extra spaces. I have asked him many times to not have his guests park on my property but he just tells me I have lots of space so he doesn't see what the problem is. The next time this happens, if I just lock my gate with his guest's cars in there and go on vacation for a few days, or just flat out tell them they're not welcome onto my property, what would happen? Could I get in any legal trouble? Yes, I'm aware calling to get the cars towed is an option, but I'm feeling really petty right now and want to make them wait a few hours or days to get their cars.

do1hq93

do1lfm3

Call a tow truck every time.

You may want to invest in an automated Gate opening/closing system. My parents had a similar problem, and after having to go to court twice over having cars towed (both dismissed), they found it easier just to have a gate locked closed that can only be opened by remote.

74utdn

legaladvice_train

(CA) Neighbor keeps inviting people to park in my gated drive-way. What happens if I lock the gate and refuse to let neighbor's guests access their cars? I have a gated drive way I leave open during the day for a multitude of reasons. My neighbor keeps telling people they can park in my driveway even though there is ample street parking and he has his own driveway with extra spaces. I have asked him many times to not have his guests park on my property but he just tells me I have lots of space so he doesn't see what the problem is. The next time this happens, if I just lock my gate with his guest's cars in there and go on vacation for a few days, or just flat out tell them they're not welcome onto my property, what would happen? Could I get in any legal trouble? Yes, I'm aware calling to get the cars towed is an option, but I'm feeling really petty right now and want to make them wait a few hours or days to get their cars.

do1lfm3

do1etfl

You may want to invest in an automated Gate opening/closing system. My parents had a similar problem, and after having to go to court twice over having cars towed (both dismissed), they found it easier just to have a gate locked closed that can only be opened by remote.

Could you go over to your neighbors when they park there and tell them him that if his guest doesn't move their car you will have it towed? Also no parking and no trespassing signs are a good ideas as well.

74utdn

legaladvice_train

(CA) Neighbor keeps inviting people to park in my gated drive-way. What happens if I lock the gate and refuse to let neighbor's guests access their cars? I have a gated drive way I leave open during the day for a multitude of reasons. My neighbor keeps telling people they can park in my driveway even though there is ample street parking and he has his own driveway with extra spaces. I have asked him many times to not have his guests park on my property but he just tells me I have lots of space so he doesn't see what the problem is. The next time this happens, if I just lock my gate with his guest's cars in there and go on vacation for a few days, or just flat out tell them they're not welcome onto my property, what would happen? Could I get in any legal trouble? Yes, I'm aware calling to get the cars towed is an option, but I'm feeling really petty right now and want to make them wait a few hours or days to get their cars.

do1etfl

do1hq93

Could you go over to your neighbors when they park there and tell them him that if his guest doesn't move their car you will have it towed? Also no parking and no trespassing signs are a good ideas as well.

Call a tow truck every time.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fagdghj

fagd7fl

\> The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; Then CALL THE POLICE. Your landlady wont do anything, apparently. Call the police and file a complaint. \> Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop You can explain what is going on to the police. And if they can they will intervene. ENough calls and it will hit the landlord. The location will help (I might have missed it but I can't find it)

Try to get a recording of him doing this in addition to documenting everything. That way you have something to show the police when you call them. Have you considered putting rugs down?

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fagdghj

fagcyb1

\> The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; Then CALL THE POLICE. Your landlady wont do anything, apparently. Call the police and file a complaint. \> Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop You can explain what is going on to the police. And if they can they will intervene. ENough calls and it will hit the landlord. The location will help (I might have missed it but I can't find it)

I'm trying to figure out why your landlady doesn't grow a spine and take care of it. This kind of seems like something *she* can take care of, is it not? You're probably going to have to call the police, though, especially if he's making threats. One thing I'd recommend is to talk to other neighbors. You said other people have complained. Maybe see if you can get them to say something, too. Sorry you're dealing with this. Hope it gets better for you.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fagd7fl

fagcyb1

Try to get a recording of him doing this in addition to documenting everything. That way you have something to show the police when you call them. Have you considered putting rugs down?

I'm trying to figure out why your landlady doesn't grow a spine and take care of it. This kind of seems like something *she* can take care of, is it not? You're probably going to have to call the police, though, especially if he's making threats. One thing I'd recommend is to talk to other neighbors. You said other people have complained. Maybe see if you can get them to say something, too. Sorry you're dealing with this. Hope it gets better for you.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fahbb47

fagcyb1

Stop tiptoeing. Literally and figuratively. Record conversations with this person. Call police when he threatens you. Call every time.

I'm trying to figure out why your landlady doesn't grow a spine and take care of it. This kind of seems like something *she* can take care of, is it not? You're probably going to have to call the police, though, especially if he's making threats. One thing I'd recommend is to talk to other neighbors. You said other people have complained. Maybe see if you can get them to say something, too. Sorry you're dealing with this. Hope it gets better for you.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fahbb47

fagra8j

Stop tiptoeing. Literally and figuratively. Record conversations with this person. Call police when he threatens you. Call every time.

I would also contact Adult Protective Services and as others have said, call the police and document everything. In any State you are entitled to the to quiet enjoyment. ... It includes the rights to reasonable privacy, freedom from unreasonable disturbance, exclusive possession, and use of common areas for reasonable purposes without significant interference.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fah7ywu

fahbb47

Just a small thing -- "I have two white noise machines running" -- turn off the white noise. It would help if he had white noise in his apartment. However, the white noise in your apartment isn't going to get to him. The white noise in your apartment will mislead you into thinking you are more quiet than you actually are.

Stop tiptoeing. Literally and figuratively. Record conversations with this person. Call police when he threatens you. Call every time.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fahbb47

fah5h27

Stop tiptoeing. Literally and figuratively. Record conversations with this person. Call police when he threatens you. Call every time.

Contact the police. Talk to your neighbors and see if they are willing to make a statement. Get a paper trail started. As this escalates and it probably will you'll need that paper trail to get a restraining order against him. Once there is a restraining order in place it gives the cops more options when issues occur. Getting the police involved should also light a fire under the dad's ass to get involved and help deal with the situation.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fahcl3a

fagra8j

>I’m gonna fucking kill your cats When he was just abusively profane, you could have tried to handle it, but he has made specific violent threats against you, you need to call the police every single time he does this.

I would also contact Adult Protective Services and as others have said, call the police and document everything. In any State you are entitled to the to quiet enjoyment. ... It includes the rights to reasonable privacy, freedom from unreasonable disturbance, exclusive possession, and use of common areas for reasonable purposes without significant interference.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fah7ywu

fahcl3a

Just a small thing -- "I have two white noise machines running" -- turn off the white noise. It would help if he had white noise in his apartment. However, the white noise in your apartment isn't going to get to him. The white noise in your apartment will mislead you into thinking you are more quiet than you actually are.

>I’m gonna fucking kill your cats When he was just abusively profane, you could have tried to handle it, but he has made specific violent threats against you, you need to call the police every single time he does this.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fahcl3a

fah5h27

>I’m gonna fucking kill your cats When he was just abusively profane, you could have tried to handle it, but he has made specific violent threats against you, you need to call the police every single time he does this.

Contact the police. Talk to your neighbors and see if they are willing to make a statement. Get a paper trail started. As this escalates and it probably will you'll need that paper trail to get a restraining order against him. Once there is a restraining order in place it gives the cops more options when issues occur. Getting the police involved should also light a fire under the dad's ass to get involved and help deal with the situation.

e93t80

legaladvice_train

downstairs neighbor goes absolutely ballistic every time I make even the slightest sound...building management says walking/bathing/dressing/getting in and out of bed are within my rights, landlady is ambivalent, conflicted about calling the police due to fear of escalation—please help It happens at all hours of the day: 4am, 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 5pm, 7pm, 8pm, and now 10pm….usually just from the sound of my footsteps (which have turned into tiptoes) but also from opening drawers, quietly talking on the phone at reasonable hours, turning on the shower. When I come home and set my things down it’s often met with screams from downstairs like “fuck you, fuck your schedule, every fucking day!” and when I am getting ready to leave it’s like “fuck you, fuck your cats, walk fucking normally!” I have two cats who get seriously spooked when he pounds on the ceiling and slams doors and he will often go ballistic if they are playing. I work several shifts that require me to wake up at 4am and had already created systems to ensure that I do not disturb anyone: I have two white noise machines running, often wake up a few minutes before my alarm, and set out all my clothes and breakfast the night before so I make as little noise as possible. Once when I was getting ready at this hour he pounded on the ceiling at least 40 times while following my footsteps and shouting “fuck your schedule, fuck your cats, I’m gonna fucking kill your cats” out the window before slamming the windows and a bunch of doors, knocking shit over, etc. It happens so much that I had briefly been questioning my sanity until the landlady said there have been complaints from other tenants about him before...downstairs neighbor is a deadbeat in his late 30s who seemingly never leaves his apartment, smokes mids all day, is not employed to the extent that his income comes from online gambling (I often hear him screaming on the phone with his parents asking for money) I am not sure if his apartment is leased in his name or his dad’s but when I’ve spoken to the landlady about his repeated outbursts she’s said that his dad is the one who fills out the renewal application and corresponds with the landlord if there’s any maintenance issue. The most recent time I’ve brought this up to her she told me I should just call the police; I told her I felt conflicted in the event that a visit from the police might escalate things and jeopardize my safety even more (to which she responded by essentially suggesting I stay somewhere else and bring my cats while she waits to hear back from his dad…honestly I feel like dad probably isn’t the best person for her to contact) Don’t comment if you’re just going to say oh it sounds like he is not well—no shit he’s not—I am not a doctor and thus don’t see any reason to encourage the clinicalization of a 40 year old virgin’s bad behavior as a means of somehow rendering it excusable or somehow less harmful. This shit sucks, it’s my finals week at school and the holiday season at work and I’m upset that just like… being alive is prompting what I would consider harassment from this lame ass dude. What am I supposed to do to make this stop while remaining safe? I don’t really feel like knocking on the door of someone who acts like this and trying to be confrontational with him about it is a good idea cos he seems so unstable (or, his stability includes aggression that does not merit any kind of contact, much less face-to-face) Is there any way I can call the police and ask that they only come if he is taken to a hospital, an addiction center, or the station rather than just being checked up on? I am seriously afraid and just want this shit to stop

fah5h27

fah7ywu

Contact the police. Talk to your neighbors and see if they are willing to make a statement. Get a paper trail started. As this escalates and it probably will you'll need that paper trail to get a restraining order against him. Once there is a restraining order in place it gives the cops more options when issues occur. Getting the police involved should also light a fire under the dad's ass to get involved and help deal with the situation.

Just a small thing -- "I have two white noise machines running" -- turn off the white noise. It would help if he had white noise in his apartment. However, the white noise in your apartment isn't going to get to him. The white noise in your apartment will mislead you into thinking you are more quiet than you actually are.

pbcpvg

legaladvice_train

My ex wife’s boyfriend showers with my six year old son. Is this even legal? I talked to a cps caseworker who highly advised that I file a report. It bothers me that my ex wife thinks that this is okay. Is there a law or statute against this? I need some advice

haauq1q

hab9vbo

Without a location it's impossible to state for certain but I previously prosecuted a similar case here in NY so odds are good it would be considered abuse in your state as well. Call CPS and file a report immediately.

As someone who works with children on a daily basis, and I have two degrees that relate to this experience, (education and child psychology) my best advice to you is to avoid (unintentionally) luring your son. I know you have concerns, whatever those concerns may be, but absolutely avoid suggesting things to him (I.e., Has so and so ever touched you here?). If you want to turn this into a legal situation involving CPS, they’re not going to appreciate and/or take you seriously if someone, say your ex, accuses you of misleading your son, or confusing him. Just leave any sort of interview questions to a psychologist or CPS official. Just my two cents. 🤙🏻

pbcpvg

legaladvice_train

My ex wife’s boyfriend showers with my six year old son. Is this even legal? I talked to a cps caseworker who highly advised that I file a report. It bothers me that my ex wife thinks that this is okay. Is there a law or statute against this? I need some advice

haav5vu

hab9vbo

You already got advice from someone who knows better than any of us. The statute depends on the state and what exactly is happening, but that’s not your concern. Let CPS sort out the details once you do your part and file the report.

As someone who works with children on a daily basis, and I have two degrees that relate to this experience, (education and child psychology) my best advice to you is to avoid (unintentionally) luring your son. I know you have concerns, whatever those concerns may be, but absolutely avoid suggesting things to him (I.e., Has so and so ever touched you here?). If you want to turn this into a legal situation involving CPS, they’re not going to appreciate and/or take you seriously if someone, say your ex, accuses you of misleading your son, or confusing him. Just leave any sort of interview questions to a psychologist or CPS official. Just my two cents. 🤙🏻

pbcpvg

legaladvice_train

My ex wife’s boyfriend showers with my six year old son. Is this even legal? I talked to a cps caseworker who highly advised that I file a report. It bothers me that my ex wife thinks that this is okay. Is there a law or statute against this? I need some advice

hab9vbo

haat9gr

As someone who works with children on a daily basis, and I have two degrees that relate to this experience, (education and child psychology) my best advice to you is to avoid (unintentionally) luring your son. I know you have concerns, whatever those concerns may be, but absolutely avoid suggesting things to him (I.e., Has so and so ever touched you here?). If you want to turn this into a legal situation involving CPS, they’re not going to appreciate and/or take you seriously if someone, say your ex, accuses you of misleading your son, or confusing him. Just leave any sort of interview questions to a psychologist or CPS official. Just my two cents. 🤙🏻

Make a CPS report ASAP

pbcpvg

legaladvice_train

My ex wife’s boyfriend showers with my six year old son. Is this even legal? I talked to a cps caseworker who highly advised that I file a report. It bothers me that my ex wife thinks that this is okay. Is there a law or statute against this? I need some advice

hab9vbo

hab3aqw

As someone who works with children on a daily basis, and I have two degrees that relate to this experience, (education and child psychology) my best advice to you is to avoid (unintentionally) luring your son. I know you have concerns, whatever those concerns may be, but absolutely avoid suggesting things to him (I.e., Has so and so ever touched you here?). If you want to turn this into a legal situation involving CPS, they’re not going to appreciate and/or take you seriously if someone, say your ex, accuses you of misleading your son, or confusing him. Just leave any sort of interview questions to a psychologist or CPS official. Just my two cents. 🤙🏻

Best advice? Listen to the CPS agent. Let them and law enforcement worry about the laws. I would also consult an attorney.

pbcpvg

legaladvice_train

My ex wife’s boyfriend showers with my six year old son. Is this even legal? I talked to a cps caseworker who highly advised that I file a report. It bothers me that my ex wife thinks that this is okay. Is there a law or statute against this? I need some advice

haat9gr

haauq1q

Make a CPS report ASAP

Without a location it's impossible to state for certain but I previously prosecuted a similar case here in NY so odds are good it would be considered abuse in your state as well. Call CPS and file a report immediately.

pbcpvg

legaladvice_train

My ex wife’s boyfriend showers with my six year old son. Is this even legal? I talked to a cps caseworker who highly advised that I file a report. It bothers me that my ex wife thinks that this is okay. Is there a law or statute against this? I need some advice

haat9gr

haav5vu

Make a CPS report ASAP

You already got advice from someone who knows better than any of us. The statute depends on the state and what exactly is happening, but that’s not your concern. Let CPS sort out the details once you do your part and file the report.

pbcpvg

legaladvice_train

My ex wife’s boyfriend showers with my six year old son. Is this even legal? I talked to a cps caseworker who highly advised that I file a report. It bothers me that my ex wife thinks that this is okay. Is there a law or statute against this? I need some advice

hab3aqw

habbjbj

Best advice? Listen to the CPS agent. Let them and law enforcement worry about the laws. I would also consult an attorney.

Locked because there are way too many off topic and anecdotal comments while OP has a good answer.

5i08pl

legaladvice_train

[PA] Received an unsolicited note on my apartment door propositioning me for sex. Decided to ignore it but inform my landlord. My landlord told me to report it to the police. This morning when I came back from walking my dog I found a hand written not on my door from someone who claimed to have been watching me, told me they "want me now," asked if I would be interested in that, that they had a "girl" so it would have to be kept a secret, and that if I wanted to set something up to to write a note and place it where I found the last one (in my Christmas door decoration). This person could be any one of the 6 men in relationships in my building, someone from the other building whose keys also work in our building door who has seen me walking my dog around, a joke, or a paranoid girlfriend/wife. I decided the best course of action was to ignore it and let my landlord know. He wants me to call the police. I don't want to do that. Should I? Do I have to? Also, isn't this something that he should handle?

db4c41c

db4cez3

>Also, isn't this something that he should handle? How do you expect him to handle it? He cannot file a police on your behalf.

What do you expect the LL to do? Nothing illegal has happened. Personally, I would leave a note in the door telling them that if they contact you ever again, you will report it to the police. Take a picture of your note before you place it. Save the note from the randy neighbor. Or---leave a note in your door that says "Smile, you are on Candid Camera"; *after* you set up a small camera aimed at your door. I guess this shows my age:(

5i08pl

legaladvice_train

[PA] Received an unsolicited note on my apartment door propositioning me for sex. Decided to ignore it but inform my landlord. My landlord told me to report it to the police. This morning when I came back from walking my dog I found a hand written not on my door from someone who claimed to have been watching me, told me they "want me now," asked if I would be interested in that, that they had a "girl" so it would have to be kept a secret, and that if I wanted to set something up to to write a note and place it where I found the last one (in my Christmas door decoration). This person could be any one of the 6 men in relationships in my building, someone from the other building whose keys also work in our building door who has seen me walking my dog around, a joke, or a paranoid girlfriend/wife. I decided the best course of action was to ignore it and let my landlord know. He wants me to call the police. I don't want to do that. Should I? Do I have to? Also, isn't this something that he should handle?

db5429y

db4zx68

Not a lawyer but I am with your landlord on this. If his first reaction is to "call the cops" it makes me think this has happened before. Writing a note saying "they are watching you" and "I want you now" are HUGE red flag to me as a single woman. Call the cops now and at least get this on record. Seriously, if someone goes as far to post this on your door you have no idea how far they are willing to go. This could end up being a sick prank but what if its not and this guy really is watching you and decides he no longer wants to wait for you to agree?

I'd call the police. It could be nothing, but if the guy escalates it will help that you filed a report

5i08pl

legaladvice_train

[PA] Received an unsolicited note on my apartment door propositioning me for sex. Decided to ignore it but inform my landlord. My landlord told me to report it to the police. This morning when I came back from walking my dog I found a hand written not on my door from someone who claimed to have been watching me, told me they "want me now," asked if I would be interested in that, that they had a "girl" so it would have to be kept a secret, and that if I wanted to set something up to to write a note and place it where I found the last one (in my Christmas door decoration). This person could be any one of the 6 men in relationships in my building, someone from the other building whose keys also work in our building door who has seen me walking my dog around, a joke, or a paranoid girlfriend/wife. I decided the best course of action was to ignore it and let my landlord know. He wants me to call the police. I don't want to do that. Should I? Do I have to? Also, isn't this something that he should handle?

db4zx68

db51xzq

I'd call the police. It could be nothing, but if the guy escalates it will help that you filed a report

> Also, isn't this something that he should handle? No. Landlords are responsible for many things: keeping the roof from leaking, providing heat and running water (in most cases), but helping tenants with stalkers or serious emotional and mental issues (depending on which tenant we're talking about here) is just not one of their responsibilities. I think that the landlord's advice ("call the cops") is probably good advice, but "just ignore it" is also a perfectly good way to handle this and if that's the solution you prefer then there is nothing wrong with it.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7geoyj

e7gbg5r

AT&T has a third party claims service that covers both their contractors and employees work. Any request has to go through them before any type of payout. That’s your first move

Homeowners insurance?

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7gbgkm

e7geoyj

What did your home owner's insurance say?

AT&T has a third party claims service that covers both their contractors and employees work. Any request has to go through them before any type of payout. That’s your first move

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7geoyj

e7gcnlw

AT&T has a third party claims service that covers both their contractors and employees work. Any request has to go through them before any type of payout. That’s your first move

When you agreed to the new line with AT&T, did you sign any kind of contract? You will want to view your contract and look for something like "This agreement may not be assigned" meaning AT&T can't just pass the buck to a 3rd party company in cases like these. I'd assume tho any contract given to you by AT&T is cooked 100% in their favor so you might be screwed. Depending on your contract, you may have agreed to indemnify AT&T in the case of a 3rd party screw-up.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7guoyv

e7gqp3d

Why the hell did you wait "a couple of years" to address this?

A couple years ago? If it's more than two, you probably have a statute of limitations issue, depending on your state. If it's a little less than two, you better figure out what you're doing fast.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7guoyv

e7glf74

Why the hell did you wait "a couple of years" to address this?

> They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. This might the most important point here. Did the survey company mark the line to the garage properly? If not, it could be THEIR fault, but only if the line to the garage was up to code and a permit had been filed when it was placed.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7guoyv

e7gjiw4

Why the hell did you wait "a couple of years" to address this?

Was the broken underground line done to code, and did the dial before you dig outfit locate it correctly?

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7guoyv

e7gufpz

Why the hell did you wait "a couple of years" to address this?

obligatory I am not a lawyer Most utilities, and likely AT&T as well, have verbiage built into their agreements regarding privately owned "obstacles" of which the line to your garage would be one. If you did not mark it clearly prior to the install AT&T is likely not liable per the agreement. Would need to check the agreement for this verbiage. Call before you dig companies will only mark publicly owned utilities. Things like lines to garages, septic or sprinkler systems, LP lines, etc are up to the property owners.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7guoyv

e7gujst

Why the hell did you wait "a couple of years" to address this?

You should have had the quotes for the repair done immediately, and asked for ATT Damage claims department, then asked them where to send the quotes. A couple of years later you will be very hard pressed to get the company to take responsibility for your damaged power line.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7guoyv

e7gsae3

Why the hell did you wait "a couple of years" to address this?

800-288-2020 Get to retention Get to a supervisor Have them put a ticket in for corporate to take action on. It won't be fast, but it'll get handled. Also file BBB complaint. They respond really fast to those.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7gqp3d

e7glf74

A couple years ago? If it's more than two, you probably have a statute of limitations issue, depending on your state. If it's a little less than two, you better figure out what you're doing fast.

> They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. This might the most important point here. Did the survey company mark the line to the garage properly? If not, it could be THEIR fault, but only if the line to the garage was up to code and a permit had been filed when it was placed.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7gjiw4

e7gqp3d

Was the broken underground line done to code, and did the dial before you dig outfit locate it correctly?

A couple years ago? If it's more than two, you probably have a statute of limitations issue, depending on your state. If it's a little less than two, you better figure out what you're doing fast.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7gjiw4

e7glf74

Was the broken underground line done to code, and did the dial before you dig outfit locate it correctly?

> They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. This might the most important point here. Did the survey company mark the line to the garage properly? If not, it could be THEIR fault, but only if the line to the garage was up to code and a permit had been filed when it was placed.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7gsae3

e7gufpz

800-288-2020 Get to retention Get to a supervisor Have them put a ticket in for corporate to take action on. It won't be fast, but it'll get handled. Also file BBB complaint. They respond really fast to those.

obligatory I am not a lawyer Most utilities, and likely AT&T as well, have verbiage built into their agreements regarding privately owned "obstacles" of which the line to your garage would be one. If you did not mark it clearly prior to the install AT&T is likely not liable per the agreement. Would need to check the agreement for this verbiage. Call before you dig companies will only mark publicly owned utilities. Things like lines to garages, septic or sprinkler systems, LP lines, etc are up to the property owners.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7gsae3

e7gujst

800-288-2020 Get to retention Get to a supervisor Have them put a ticket in for corporate to take action on. It won't be fast, but it'll get handled. Also file BBB complaint. They respond really fast to those.

You should have had the quotes for the repair done immediately, and asked for ATT Damage claims department, then asked them where to send the quotes. A couple of years later you will be very hard pressed to get the company to take responsibility for your damaged power line.

9mpk1y

legaladvice_train

AT&T told me they needed to run a new line for my internet. They sent out a 3rd party company to install the new line and the company cut an underground wire going to my detached garage. No longer have power. AT&T refuses to take fault. 3rd party company out of business? I’ll start by saying this happened a couple years ago, but I’m still without power. I wanted faster internet so I called at&t. They said they will need to run a new line. I agreed. They sold a “call before you dig” company to come and survey before they dig. 3rd party company hired by at&t come out and they install the line, but they cut the line going to my detached garage and no we have no power. We didn’t notice till the following morning. We call at&t and they literally kept hanging up in our faces after telling us we need to call the 3rd party company. 3rd party company NEVER answers their phone. Left multiple messages. Hired a lawyer who sent multiple letters over the course of 6 months. He says taking it to court is a waste of time and money and the company is too small to afford to pay. I got 2 quotes to repair the wire at around $4,000. Is there anything I can do?

e7gsae3

e7gw1h4

800-288-2020 Get to retention Get to a supervisor Have them put a ticket in for corporate to take action on. It won't be fast, but it'll get handled. Also file BBB complaint. They respond really fast to those.

AT&T is responsible. Even if they claim they aren't, because they sent over the smaller company. This means the smaller company works for AT&T.

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legaladvice_train

Richmond, VA – I caused an accident a year and a half ago. Injured party refusing settlement from my insurance company, she’s demanding that the money come from me so that I can “know the pain she feels.” Richmond, VA I am dealing with a smallish insurance company and they have been wonderful to work with and they have been communicating with me. They told me that I do not need to take any further action at this point in time, but I wanted to get some understanding as to whether or not this lady has any legal ground to stand on. A combination of nasty weather, my unfamiliarity with the area I was driving, and speed on my part caused me to be at fault for a car accident. I ended up rear ending a woman (my car = 2008 Honda Civic, her car = 2014 Ford Expedition) at ~35MPH on a 25MPH road (she was moving about 10-15MPH at the time of the rear-ending). My car was totaled, her car needed barely $2,500 worth of repairs. This woman has racked up what amounts to something on the order of $25,000 worth of medical bills. This spans chiropractic appointments, to home and Dr. office based physical therapy, etc. Her medical insurance has covered all of this at this point. Last week my insurance company reached a verbal agreement with her and her lawyer for $40,000 She is now refusing the money from the insurance company, she is demanding that the money come from me personally, she thinks that this will help me “learn my lesson.” My insurance company shared with me a letter she wrote them…a 12-page front and back…what I am calling manifesto. (no, I am not posting it here) I would also like to point out that she’s 24 years old and the letter makes it sound like she’s an 84-year-old woman on her deathbed with all her listed “ailments.” I am not trying to diminish whatever pain she’s in or think she’s in but…come on right? So does she have any legal standing on her demand that I pay vs. my insurance pay her?

dfb39uq

dfb37yy

>She is now refusing the money from the insurance company, she is demanding that the money come from me personally, she thinks that this will help me “learn my lesson.” Get yourself a can of bug spray and some lube, so the off she can fuck will always be there when she needs it. Your insurance company probably sent you the letter for its comedic value, or perhaps in the desperate hopes that you'd feel bad enough to pay what is clearly their obligation. You are in no way required to send this person a cent.

Ask the insurance company to send a copy of her manifesto to her lawyer. Hopefully her lawyer will straighten her out.

612803

legaladvice_train

Richmond, VA – I caused an accident a year and a half ago. Injured party refusing settlement from my insurance company, she’s demanding that the money come from me so that I can “know the pain she feels.” Richmond, VA I am dealing with a smallish insurance company and they have been wonderful to work with and they have been communicating with me. They told me that I do not need to take any further action at this point in time, but I wanted to get some understanding as to whether or not this lady has any legal ground to stand on. A combination of nasty weather, my unfamiliarity with the area I was driving, and speed on my part caused me to be at fault for a car accident. I ended up rear ending a woman (my car = 2008 Honda Civic, her car = 2014 Ford Expedition) at ~35MPH on a 25MPH road (she was moving about 10-15MPH at the time of the rear-ending). My car was totaled, her car needed barely $2,500 worth of repairs. This woman has racked up what amounts to something on the order of $25,000 worth of medical bills. This spans chiropractic appointments, to home and Dr. office based physical therapy, etc. Her medical insurance has covered all of this at this point. Last week my insurance company reached a verbal agreement with her and her lawyer for $40,000 She is now refusing the money from the insurance company, she is demanding that the money come from me personally, she thinks that this will help me “learn my lesson.” My insurance company shared with me a letter she wrote them…a 12-page front and back…what I am calling manifesto. (no, I am not posting it here) I would also like to point out that she’s 24 years old and the letter makes it sound like she’s an 84-year-old woman on her deathbed with all her listed “ailments.” I am not trying to diminish whatever pain she’s in or think she’s in but…come on right? So does she have any legal standing on her demand that I pay vs. my insurance pay her?

dfb7l2t

dfbfoq7

Once the case is all settled you should redact the personal information and post the letter. I'd love a good laugh.

A very similar issue occurred Recently in the US (can't recall where). A driver lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a fence on private property. The driver accepted full responsibility for the accident, and offered to pay for the repairs of the fence and lawn, an amount over and above the cost of the contractors quotes. The owner of the fence declined it and decided to sue for an amount way above repair costs. The judge tossed the case because the property owner had offered a reasonable and full settlement. In the end the property owner was stuck with the repair costs.

612803

legaladvice_train

Richmond, VA – I caused an accident a year and a half ago. Injured party refusing settlement from my insurance company, she’s demanding that the money come from me so that I can “know the pain she feels.” Richmond, VA I am dealing with a smallish insurance company and they have been wonderful to work with and they have been communicating with me. They told me that I do not need to take any further action at this point in time, but I wanted to get some understanding as to whether or not this lady has any legal ground to stand on. A combination of nasty weather, my unfamiliarity with the area I was driving, and speed on my part caused me to be at fault for a car accident. I ended up rear ending a woman (my car = 2008 Honda Civic, her car = 2014 Ford Expedition) at ~35MPH on a 25MPH road (she was moving about 10-15MPH at the time of the rear-ending). My car was totaled, her car needed barely $2,500 worth of repairs. This woman has racked up what amounts to something on the order of $25,000 worth of medical bills. This spans chiropractic appointments, to home and Dr. office based physical therapy, etc. Her medical insurance has covered all of this at this point. Last week my insurance company reached a verbal agreement with her and her lawyer for $40,000 She is now refusing the money from the insurance company, she is demanding that the money come from me personally, she thinks that this will help me “learn my lesson.” My insurance company shared with me a letter she wrote them…a 12-page front and back…what I am calling manifesto. (no, I am not posting it here) I would also like to point out that she’s 24 years old and the letter makes it sound like she’s an 84-year-old woman on her deathbed with all her listed “ailments.” I am not trying to diminish whatever pain she’s in or think she’s in but…come on right? So does she have any legal standing on her demand that I pay vs. my insurance pay her?

dfbdgcj

dfbfoq7

My god this is bizarre. If one of our clients ever did something like this, we'd like be like "lol you'll change your tune" and if they never did, we'd probably try six ways from Sunday to change their minds, but if they never did, we'd likely call the state bar, see what they thought, then drop them as a client with this long-winded letter as to how they violated our contract of representation by being uncooperative. Your insurance company's counsel will handle this no sweat. If they settle and she accepts, they've had to sign a limited liability release, and they can't sue ever again for that particular accident and anything that happened as a result thereof.

A very similar issue occurred Recently in the US (can't recall where). A driver lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a fence on private property. The driver accepted full responsibility for the accident, and offered to pay for the repairs of the fence and lawn, an amount over and above the cost of the contractors quotes. The owner of the fence declined it and decided to sue for an amount way above repair costs. The judge tossed the case because the property owner had offered a reasonable and full settlement. In the end the property owner was stuck with the repair costs.

612803

legaladvice_train

Richmond, VA – I caused an accident a year and a half ago. Injured party refusing settlement from my insurance company, she’s demanding that the money come from me so that I can “know the pain she feels.” Richmond, VA I am dealing with a smallish insurance company and they have been wonderful to work with and they have been communicating with me. They told me that I do not need to take any further action at this point in time, but I wanted to get some understanding as to whether or not this lady has any legal ground to stand on. A combination of nasty weather, my unfamiliarity with the area I was driving, and speed on my part caused me to be at fault for a car accident. I ended up rear ending a woman (my car = 2008 Honda Civic, her car = 2014 Ford Expedition) at ~35MPH on a 25MPH road (she was moving about 10-15MPH at the time of the rear-ending). My car was totaled, her car needed barely $2,500 worth of repairs. This woman has racked up what amounts to something on the order of $25,000 worth of medical bills. This spans chiropractic appointments, to home and Dr. office based physical therapy, etc. Her medical insurance has covered all of this at this point. Last week my insurance company reached a verbal agreement with her and her lawyer for $40,000 She is now refusing the money from the insurance company, she is demanding that the money come from me personally, she thinks that this will help me “learn my lesson.” My insurance company shared with me a letter she wrote them…a 12-page front and back…what I am calling manifesto. (no, I am not posting it here) I would also like to point out that she’s 24 years old and the letter makes it sound like she’s an 84-year-old woman on her deathbed with all her listed “ailments.” I am not trying to diminish whatever pain she’s in or think she’s in but…come on right? So does she have any legal standing on her demand that I pay vs. my insurance pay her?

dfbb1km

dfbfoq7

It would make my day to be able to read that 12 page letter. People who don't understand the law writing demand letters make for some of the best reading.

A very similar issue occurred Recently in the US (can't recall where). A driver lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a fence on private property. The driver accepted full responsibility for the accident, and offered to pay for the repairs of the fence and lawn, an amount over and above the cost of the contractors quotes. The owner of the fence declined it and decided to sue for an amount way above repair costs. The judge tossed the case because the property owner had offered a reasonable and full settlement. In the end the property owner was stuck with the repair costs.

612803

legaladvice_train

Richmond, VA – I caused an accident a year and a half ago. Injured party refusing settlement from my insurance company, she’s demanding that the money come from me so that I can “know the pain she feels.” Richmond, VA I am dealing with a smallish insurance company and they have been wonderful to work with and they have been communicating with me. They told me that I do not need to take any further action at this point in time, but I wanted to get some understanding as to whether or not this lady has any legal ground to stand on. A combination of nasty weather, my unfamiliarity with the area I was driving, and speed on my part caused me to be at fault for a car accident. I ended up rear ending a woman (my car = 2008 Honda Civic, her car = 2014 Ford Expedition) at ~35MPH on a 25MPH road (she was moving about 10-15MPH at the time of the rear-ending). My car was totaled, her car needed barely $2,500 worth of repairs. This woman has racked up what amounts to something on the order of $25,000 worth of medical bills. This spans chiropractic appointments, to home and Dr. office based physical therapy, etc. Her medical insurance has covered all of this at this point. Last week my insurance company reached a verbal agreement with her and her lawyer for $40,000 She is now refusing the money from the insurance company, she is demanding that the money come from me personally, she thinks that this will help me “learn my lesson.” My insurance company shared with me a letter she wrote them…a 12-page front and back…what I am calling manifesto. (no, I am not posting it here) I would also like to point out that she’s 24 years old and the letter makes it sound like she’s an 84-year-old woman on her deathbed with all her listed “ailments.” I am not trying to diminish whatever pain she’s in or think she’s in but…come on right? So does she have any legal standing on her demand that I pay vs. my insurance pay her?

dfbe3tl

dfbfoq7

This is insane. Why would someone so young refuse a huge chunk of money in the first place, but why would she expect she could ever get it from you? She could have almost effortlessly cash a check and have $40,000 in her bank account at 24 years old but she would rather try to pursue a judgement for someone that probably can't pay it quickly in any way. I would gladly get in a minor car wreck and go to the chiropractor and get half that amount of money. My point being, mental illness. While the law and your insurance company have things covered on your side, I would watch out. I wouldn't worry too much but I wouldn't forget about this lady. A crazy person has your contact information and thinks you owe her $40,000.

A very similar issue occurred Recently in the US (can't recall where). A driver lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a fence on private property. The driver accepted full responsibility for the accident, and offered to pay for the repairs of the fence and lawn, an amount over and above the cost of the contractors quotes. The owner of the fence declined it and decided to sue for an amount way above repair costs. The judge tossed the case because the property owner had offered a reasonable and full settlement. In the end the property owner was stuck with the repair costs.

612803

legaladvice_train

Richmond, VA – I caused an accident a year and a half ago. Injured party refusing settlement from my insurance company, she’s demanding that the money come from me so that I can “know the pain she feels.” Richmond, VA I am dealing with a smallish insurance company and they have been wonderful to work with and they have been communicating with me. They told me that I do not need to take any further action at this point in time, but I wanted to get some understanding as to whether or not this lady has any legal ground to stand on. A combination of nasty weather, my unfamiliarity with the area I was driving, and speed on my part caused me to be at fault for a car accident. I ended up rear ending a woman (my car = 2008 Honda Civic, her car = 2014 Ford Expedition) at ~35MPH on a 25MPH road (she was moving about 10-15MPH at the time of the rear-ending). My car was totaled, her car needed barely $2,500 worth of repairs. This woman has racked up what amounts to something on the order of $25,000 worth of medical bills. This spans chiropractic appointments, to home and Dr. office based physical therapy, etc. Her medical insurance has covered all of this at this point. Last week my insurance company reached a verbal agreement with her and her lawyer for $40,000 She is now refusing the money from the insurance company, she is demanding that the money come from me personally, she thinks that this will help me “learn my lesson.” My insurance company shared with me a letter she wrote them…a 12-page front and back…what I am calling manifesto. (no, I am not posting it here) I would also like to point out that she’s 24 years old and the letter makes it sound like she’s an 84-year-old woman on her deathbed with all her listed “ailments.” I am not trying to diminish whatever pain she’s in or think she’s in but…come on right? So does she have any legal standing on her demand that I pay vs. my insurance pay her?

dfbdgcj

dfbb1km

My god this is bizarre. If one of our clients ever did something like this, we'd like be like "lol you'll change your tune" and if they never did, we'd probably try six ways from Sunday to change their minds, but if they never did, we'd likely call the state bar, see what they thought, then drop them as a client with this long-winded letter as to how they violated our contract of representation by being uncooperative. Your insurance company's counsel will handle this no sweat. If they settle and she accepts, they've had to sign a limited liability release, and they can't sue ever again for that particular accident and anything that happened as a result thereof.

It would make my day to be able to read that 12 page letter. People who don't understand the law writing demand letters make for some of the best reading.

xcscyl

legaladvice_train

Texas - how to evict my adult son with autism/schizophrenia My son is very sick with schizophrenia with auditory/visual hallucinations and autism. He gets SSI benefits and qualifies for Medicaid. He's been hospitalized nearly every year. He graduated HS a couple of years ago but then ended up killing our pets in one of his episodes. He was charged but then put on a probation through the mental health courts. But he's not doing enough to control his mental illness...Today he got into a fist fight with his trans-brother, and now the wife and sibling are ready to call 911 and haul him away to jail. But the question is how can I evict him legally and have him find his own housing? (and avoid legal jeopardy)

io9fyfm

io9f3y1

So a standard eviction would work and then police could remove him if he violates it. But my real question is have you looked into taking guardianship of him? If you are again put in place as his guardian it is quite a bit easier to find group homes or other institutional help for him. My partners brother is in very much a same situation, developmentally delayed with schizophrenia and it was a huge uphill battle to get his meds right but he is by no means fit to be his own guardian and it sounds like your son might not be either. It's not a quick solution but the more permanent and possibly better solution likely isn't an eviction but instead court ordered mental health treatment. This can be for acute or persistent issues so it could last as long as his schizophrenia is uncontrolled and he can return to more normalcy or for much longer if needed.

Do not site his mental illness as reason for eviction. Only behaviors and how they violated the terms of the lease. Personally, I would use my position as his landlord to leverage him to go to residential treatment. With his diagnoses they will assign him a case manager who will help him find housing. Otherwise he is bound to be homeless and will likely end up in jail anyways where he will never receive the treatment he needs. He can find residential treatment options by calling the Medicaid access line on the back of his insurance card.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekvawb2

ekvaj8q

I'd try calling Alabama Adult Protective Services at 800-458-7214 to see if they could help today.

This is an awful situation that's absolutely not your fault. Does he have a social worker or case worker?

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekw5m0s

ekwbd1i

Will his doctor call the jail today and speak to the medical staff? Sometimes 'professional-to-professional' communications are taken more seriously.

You’ve stated that you’ve been in touch with jail officials and they’ve been responsive, but I suggest put your concerns IN WRITING to the warden / whoever the higher ups at the jail are ASAP, and in your communication you should note specifically that his health and safety are AT RISK - that he risks serious injury and/or death without his medication. God forbid something happens and you need to sue at some point in the future to cover additional costs of care, “actual knowledge” on part of the jail supervisors will be a critical element in proving a claim. Hopefully this situation can be resolved without incident, but you want to protect your brother in the worst case that his health suffers because the jail failed to treat him appropriately during his stay.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekwbd1i

ekvn1tr

You’ve stated that you’ve been in touch with jail officials and they’ve been responsive, but I suggest put your concerns IN WRITING to the warden / whoever the higher ups at the jail are ASAP, and in your communication you should note specifically that his health and safety are AT RISK - that he risks serious injury and/or death without his medication. God forbid something happens and you need to sue at some point in the future to cover additional costs of care, “actual knowledge” on part of the jail supervisors will be a critical element in proving a claim. Hopefully this situation can be resolved without incident, but you want to protect your brother in the worst case that his health suffers because the jail failed to treat him appropriately during his stay.

The ACLU frequently handles prisoner's rights issues, they would almost certainly have a good idea what to do for your brother. You can fill out an intake form here.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekvm09r

ekwbd1i

I am not a lawyer nor do I live in your state. I previously did social work tasks for individuals who were incompetent to stand trial with some sort of MH diagnosis. You need to call Mental Health jail staff and raise the issue first that he is Incompetent to Stand Trial (IST), if you retain a lawyer or a public defender is assigned, you also need to inform them of this issue as well as other medical issues. Medicine is difficult to get in the jail setting so it will take some perseverance, but continue to call the jail and ask for nursing and mental health staff. Also, if you have medical records you can give them it may speed up the process. I’m not sure if Alabama has this yet, but I would also look to see if they have an Outpatient Competency Restoration program and call them to see if he would qualify. Even if they do not resolve all of his legal issues they can assist in getting him to a group home faster. Hope this helps.

You’ve stated that you’ve been in touch with jail officials and they’ve been responsive, but I suggest put your concerns IN WRITING to the warden / whoever the higher ups at the jail are ASAP, and in your communication you should note specifically that his health and safety are AT RISK - that he risks serious injury and/or death without his medication. God forbid something happens and you need to sue at some point in the future to cover additional costs of care, “actual knowledge” on part of the jail supervisors will be a critical element in proving a claim. Hopefully this situation can be resolved without incident, but you want to protect your brother in the worst case that his health suffers because the jail failed to treat him appropriately during his stay.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekvv8p6

ekwbd1i

First, I want to say that this isn’t your fault. It sounds like you’ve been doing your best with a really tough situation. I say this as someone who has also been trying my best, along with my wife, to take care of her profoundly ID adult sister for the last few years since their dad was dx’d with dementia. She also has tonic chlonic seizures, actually. Do you know if your brother has been legally declared a “protected person” by the court system? If so, contacting the mental hygiene office in your county may be of use. If not, it may be worth consideration to go through this process later so you are legally designated as his guardian. I support the idea of contacting the ACLU someone else mentioned also. They might be able to help quickly. Once this is all over, I hope that you are successful in getting him placed in a group home or something along those lines that specializes in caretaking of ID individuals. We lived with my sister in law for about a year until recently when we got her placement with a local agency, and it was absolutely the best decision for all of us. I know it’s hard in this moment, but please remember to take care of yourself. It’s one of the hardest aspects, but so important for you and him both.

You’ve stated that you’ve been in touch with jail officials and they’ve been responsive, but I suggest put your concerns IN WRITING to the warden / whoever the higher ups at the jail are ASAP, and in your communication you should note specifically that his health and safety are AT RISK - that he risks serious injury and/or death without his medication. God forbid something happens and you need to sue at some point in the future to cover additional costs of care, “actual knowledge” on part of the jail supervisors will be a critical element in proving a claim. Hopefully this situation can be resolved without incident, but you want to protect your brother in the worst case that his health suffers because the jail failed to treat him appropriately during his stay.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekwbd1i

ekw837d

You’ve stated that you’ve been in touch with jail officials and they’ve been responsive, but I suggest put your concerns IN WRITING to the warden / whoever the higher ups at the jail are ASAP, and in your communication you should note specifically that his health and safety are AT RISK - that he risks serious injury and/or death without his medication. God forbid something happens and you need to sue at some point in the future to cover additional costs of care, “actual knowledge” on part of the jail supervisors will be a critical element in proving a claim. Hopefully this situation can be resolved without incident, but you want to protect your brother in the worst case that his health suffers because the jail failed to treat him appropriately during his stay.

Not a lawyer. Have you contacted the DA’s office? I would gather up all the documentation you have about his disability and give it to them. It doesn’t sound like your brother has a lawyer yet, but if he does they may be able to negotiate with the ADA and get him out of jail. It’s going to depend on who the ADA is in charge of the case, but they probably have no idea of your brother’s disability and might agree to a non-jail sentence once they know. If your brother qualifies for a public defender go to his arraignment and talk to them on his behalf.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekwbd1i

ekvx22v

You’ve stated that you’ve been in touch with jail officials and they’ve been responsive, but I suggest put your concerns IN WRITING to the warden / whoever the higher ups at the jail are ASAP, and in your communication you should note specifically that his health and safety are AT RISK - that he risks serious injury and/or death without his medication. God forbid something happens and you need to sue at some point in the future to cover additional costs of care, “actual knowledge” on part of the jail supervisors will be a critical element in proving a claim. Hopefully this situation can be resolved without incident, but you want to protect your brother in the worst case that his health suffers because the jail failed to treat him appropriately during his stay.

Based on what you are saying he should have been in special education classes and have had an IEP (individualized education plan) document that describes him and shows eligibility for special ed based on testing. It should list his autism and intellectual disability. Find that if you can, it will help you prove he needs special consideration. He likely just aged out of school-based services recently, in most states they go until age 21 or 22. It will also list that he has seizures. If you are having trouble getting medical records on short notice, the IEP may help.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekw5m0s

ekvn1tr

Will his doctor call the jail today and speak to the medical staff? Sometimes 'professional-to-professional' communications are taken more seriously.

The ACLU frequently handles prisoner's rights issues, they would almost certainly have a good idea what to do for your brother. You can fill out an intake form here.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekw5m0s

ekvm09r

Will his doctor call the jail today and speak to the medical staff? Sometimes 'professional-to-professional' communications are taken more seriously.

I am not a lawyer nor do I live in your state. I previously did social work tasks for individuals who were incompetent to stand trial with some sort of MH diagnosis. You need to call Mental Health jail staff and raise the issue first that he is Incompetent to Stand Trial (IST), if you retain a lawyer or a public defender is assigned, you also need to inform them of this issue as well as other medical issues. Medicine is difficult to get in the jail setting so it will take some perseverance, but continue to call the jail and ask for nursing and mental health staff. Also, if you have medical records you can give them it may speed up the process. I’m not sure if Alabama has this yet, but I would also look to see if they have an Outpatient Competency Restoration program and call them to see if he would qualify. Even if they do not resolve all of his legal issues they can assist in getting him to a group home faster. Hope this helps.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekw5m0s

ekvv8p6

Will his doctor call the jail today and speak to the medical staff? Sometimes 'professional-to-professional' communications are taken more seriously.

First, I want to say that this isn’t your fault. It sounds like you’ve been doing your best with a really tough situation. I say this as someone who has also been trying my best, along with my wife, to take care of her profoundly ID adult sister for the last few years since their dad was dx’d with dementia. She also has tonic chlonic seizures, actually. Do you know if your brother has been legally declared a “protected person” by the court system? If so, contacting the mental hygiene office in your county may be of use. If not, it may be worth consideration to go through this process later so you are legally designated as his guardian. I support the idea of contacting the ACLU someone else mentioned also. They might be able to help quickly. Once this is all over, I hope that you are successful in getting him placed in a group home or something along those lines that specializes in caretaking of ID individuals. We lived with my sister in law for about a year until recently when we got her placement with a local agency, and it was absolutely the best decision for all of us. I know it’s hard in this moment, but please remember to take care of yourself. It’s one of the hardest aspects, but so important for you and him both.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekvx22v

ekw5m0s

Based on what you are saying he should have been in special education classes and have had an IEP (individualized education plan) document that describes him and shows eligibility for special ed based on testing. It should list his autism and intellectual disability. Find that if you can, it will help you prove he needs special consideration. He likely just aged out of school-based services recently, in most states they go until age 21 or 22. It will also list that he has seizures. If you are having trouble getting medical records on short notice, the IEP may help.

Will his doctor call the jail today and speak to the medical staff? Sometimes 'professional-to-professional' communications are taken more seriously.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekvm09r

ekvn1tr

I am not a lawyer nor do I live in your state. I previously did social work tasks for individuals who were incompetent to stand trial with some sort of MH diagnosis. You need to call Mental Health jail staff and raise the issue first that he is Incompetent to Stand Trial (IST), if you retain a lawyer or a public defender is assigned, you also need to inform them of this issue as well as other medical issues. Medicine is difficult to get in the jail setting so it will take some perseverance, but continue to call the jail and ask for nursing and mental health staff. Also, if you have medical records you can give them it may speed up the process. I’m not sure if Alabama has this yet, but I would also look to see if they have an Outpatient Competency Restoration program and call them to see if he would qualify. Even if they do not resolve all of his legal issues they can assist in getting him to a group home faster. Hope this helps.

The ACLU frequently handles prisoner's rights issues, they would almost certainly have a good idea what to do for your brother. You can fill out an intake form here.

bd2mxy

legaladvice_train

My brother has severe Autism, ID and tonic-clonic seizures and is in a Alabama County Jail where they refuse to give him medication. My parents were his care giver but they passed away in a car accident a year ago and I had to take over. I am 24 and he is 21. I am working on getting him into a home for people more suited to care for him but it is slow going. Last time he was institutionalized he went downhill fast and nearly died from refusing to eat. He hates being out of his element and he doesn’t understand needing to adjust. I have papers from his doctors. He has severe autism with ID and can’t be left alone. He will repeat things and mimic what people say. He also has epilepsy and has long lasting tonic-clinic seizures. They are some what controlled by medication but he often needs an emergency medication because they sometimes run longer than 5 to 10 min. It is diastat that is given rectally. Yesterday, he wandered off and took some things from a store. When officers came he put up a fight. He is tall and massive because he loves to work out but he hates to be touched. He has a medical alert that says call me because he has autism and seizures that he wears but no one looked at it. They took him in. He has a tracker but I didn’t notice and get there quick enough. I tried to bring papers to the jail but they said they have to have their medical professionals assess him. They have yet to do that. He has had three seizures so far. He needs his medicine. He is refusing to eat because he has an issue with consistency. He doesn’t seem to know what is going on and he has admitted to things he couldn’t possibly ever have done. He keeps fighting people who try to touch him. I talked to the store and offered to pay them for the items but they said this wasn’t there doing. It was the police because he resisted and swung at the officers. He is obviously ID. I am not sure how they could talk to him and not know. He can’t write his name. He can’t spell it. He rocks back and forth all the time and speaks to himself. One of the country jail staff seems sympathetic because they help me with getting information and call me when he has a seizure but there is only so much they can do. They just call a tech every time he has a seizure who checks his blood pressure and breathing after and apparently doesn’t see any issue with any of this. He gets asked if he is okay and he says “okay” but he just repeats what people say. It is pretty much what he does other than when he demands things like I a particular food. I am scared another inmate will notice and take advantage of him. I feel awful that I wasn’t looking and he wandered off. This is my fault. What do I do? Obviously he shouldn’t steal things but he doesn’t actually know you shouldn’t. They can’t take a confession from him right? Since he just says what people want him to say? Would a lawyer be able to get him medication? If someone asks him if he is guilty he will say whatever they want him to say. He does that. He repeats and loves to people please. He isn’t even his own guardian. I am. I have no idea what I am doing.

ekwf86x

ekw837d

I'm a former social worker for ALDHR. You need to find out if there is a court order that states your brother is mentally incompetent of making his own decisions, such as a guardianship or some other court order indicating incompetence. These type of documents are filed through county probate courts. There are some probates that publish this information online. Do you know if your parents had guardianship papers filed on him? If so, he has the right to a public appointed guardian ad litem (GAL) to represent his best interests for these circumstances. A GAL would be able file motions on his behalf for him to receive medical care for his conditions and file motions to get him into a more appropriate facility for treatment and care. I also strongly recommend contacting your county's local DHR office and filing an APS report.

Not a lawyer. Have you contacted the DA’s office? I would gather up all the documentation you have about his disability and give it to them. It doesn’t sound like your brother has a lawyer yet, but if he does they may be able to negotiate with the ADA and get him out of jail. It’s going to depend on who the ADA is in charge of the case, but they probably have no idea of your brother’s disability and might agree to a non-jail sentence once they know. If your brother qualifies for a public defender go to his arraignment and talk to them on his behalf.