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pal5q4

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So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha6gpbf

ha7h4im

I was interested in high school, but the university I attended did not have it as a major so I changed plans. It all worked out though, I have realized that I enjoy architecture more as a hobby than a profession

Old millennial here - Mainly it was the idea of being able to play with computers and be creative for the rest of my life

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha7h4im

ha6gym4

Old millennial here - Mainly it was the idea of being able to play with computers and be creative for the rest of my life

I was always fascinated with history from young age , and one of the most important part of history that still valid till now is Architecture, so when i get to choose i found it the closest to my heart ..

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha6kkla

ha7h4im

Because in my country it's expensive and besides, you need to have connections, your skill means nothing. Also, my teacher discouraged me from pursuing anything of that sort because I was wearing glasses. This was in the early 2000s.

Old millennial here - Mainly it was the idea of being able to play with computers and be creative for the rest of my life

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha7h4im

ha6o550

Old millennial here - Mainly it was the idea of being able to play with computers and be creative for the rest of my life

I passed computer engineering university entrance exam. Then i realized that the course is way over my intellectual capability. So i decided to shift to architecture. Now I feel overworked and underpaid but there is something in me that I enjoyed beingvan architect.

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha6ylw8

ha7h4im

I had several career ideas when I was younger. One of them was architect. My main reason for not choosing it was because (I thought) I had better opportunities in business, so I pursued that. Additionally, I also learned it's a very competitive career, and my taste in architecture isn't really popular nowadays. I like older/80s architecture and everything built today is basically in international or modern styles, so I don't think I would have done well.

Old millennial here - Mainly it was the idea of being able to play with computers and be creative for the rest of my life

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha7aji1

ha7h4im

Not an architect never will be, just a fan

Old millennial here - Mainly it was the idea of being able to play with computers and be creative for the rest of my life

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha7occ4

ha6gpbf

Decided that pursuing a computer science degree was going to be easier than pursuing an architecture one…

I was interested in high school, but the university I attended did not have it as a major so I changed plans. It all worked out though, I have realized that I enjoy architecture more as a hobby than a profession

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha7occ4

ha6gym4

Decided that pursuing a computer science degree was going to be easier than pursuing an architecture one…

I was always fascinated with history from young age , and one of the most important part of history that still valid till now is Architecture, so when i get to choose i found it the closest to my heart ..

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha6kkla

ha7occ4

Because in my country it's expensive and besides, you need to have connections, your skill means nothing. Also, my teacher discouraged me from pursuing anything of that sort because I was wearing glasses. This was in the early 2000s.

Decided that pursuing a computer science degree was going to be easier than pursuing an architecture one…

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha6o550

ha7occ4

I passed computer engineering university entrance exam. Then i realized that the course is way over my intellectual capability. So i decided to shift to architecture. Now I feel overworked and underpaid but there is something in me that I enjoyed beingvan architect.

Decided that pursuing a computer science degree was going to be easier than pursuing an architecture one…

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha6ylw8

ha7occ4

I had several career ideas when I was younger. One of them was architect. My main reason for not choosing it was because (I thought) I had better opportunities in business, so I pursued that. Additionally, I also learned it's a very competitive career, and my taste in architecture isn't really popular nowadays. I like older/80s architecture and everything built today is basically in international or modern styles, so I don't think I would have done well.

Decided that pursuing a computer science degree was going to be easier than pursuing an architecture one…

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha7occ4

ha7aji1

Decided that pursuing a computer science degree was going to be easier than pursuing an architecture one…

Not an architect never will be, just a fan

pal5q4

architecture_train

So why did you guys become an architect or why didn't you? I know it's a broad question but it's something I'm tossing in my head. Recently I was offered a graduate architect at a medium sized firm. Whilst that happened a large firm offered me a job as a developer. To aid them to build software add-ons and tools for the architecture team. I know that if I stayed with them I wouldn't be an architect. At the same time if I go with the other guys, I'll deffo be an architect eventually. I have some knowledge of the practice. I'm not a bright eye kiddo who wanna design the next BIG thing. I just wanna shed some thoughts to shed some light into my inner subconscious.

ha7i74o

ha7occ4

Knew I didn’t want to be an architect four years into the six year degree. Spent time doing more design, video, music work while finishing up school. Went into design and music instead and now work in print for the day job. Doing design for a few months and then managing a project for two years was not something I had any interest in. At one of the firms I worked at a guy had been in the same job for thirteen years. No thanks. Ultimately I loved the education and discourse but don’t enjoy the work. I ended up working in a university setting for a while with an architecture school which was fun. But yeah.

Decided that pursuing a computer science degree was going to be easier than pursuing an architecture one…

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivkbij1

ivk7c81

It’s a US thing only.

Cost savings is bottom line. Code requirements for accessibility allow accessible circle minimum of 60”… if there’s a 9” above finish floor toe clearance to bottom of toilet partition front and side wall. Otherwise, it has to be slightly larger than 60”. No one wants to make it larger—so 9” toe clearance is required on front wall. Because this is standard, most partitions stick with the dimension. In addition, no one wants to spring for more expensive private partitions… and there’s no code requirement requiring them, so no one wants to pay for them. IBC requirement is 12” AFF maximum to bottom of partition and 60” AFF minimum to top of partition—and that’s what people are willing to pay for (barely…)

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivk5mpp

ivkbij1

It is all about cost savings and the typical system being a bit modular.

It’s a US thing only.

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivk7c81

ivk5mpp

Cost savings is bottom line. Code requirements for accessibility allow accessible circle minimum of 60”… if there’s a 9” above finish floor toe clearance to bottom of toilet partition front and side wall. Otherwise, it has to be slightly larger than 60”. No one wants to make it larger—so 9” toe clearance is required on front wall. Because this is standard, most partitions stick with the dimension. In addition, no one wants to spring for more expensive private partitions… and there’s no code requirement requiring them, so no one wants to pay for them. IBC requirement is 12” AFF maximum to bottom of partition and 60” AFF minimum to top of partition—and that’s what people are willing to pay for (barely…)

It is all about cost savings and the typical system being a bit modular.

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivkk8t6

ivkejwn

Americans don’t want you to have privacy in public spaces.

It partly that it makes cleaning (mopping) the floor far more efficient.

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivkk8t6

ivk5mpp

Americans don’t want you to have privacy in public spaces.

It is all about cost savings and the typical system being a bit modular.

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivkejwn

ivk5mpp

It partly that it makes cleaning (mopping) the floor far more efficient.

It is all about cost savings and the typical system being a bit modular.

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivkv5jb

ivk5mpp

From my experience, in places like airports it has to do with ease of use for the owner. Lifting the partition off the floor allow for easier and better mopping, as the floor can be literally hosed out. Private spaces in public tend to be where the worst damage happens to infrastructure. Like it or not, some people suck and the more private the space is, the more graffiti and vandalism those spaces will see. Fully separate stalls also require fully separate lighting, and air supply, which can have significant costs. In big banks of stalls, the thinner partition can save several feet of space, instead of a full wall construction at every stall. This space could be rentable in the store next door. Doors and door hardware and such are also significantly more expensive than the standard partition door. They can have more moving parts, which means more maintanance too. I'm not saying it is the best design, but there are a lot of reasons for it.

It is all about cost savings and the typical system being a bit modular.

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivkx2vg

ivk5mpp

Cleaning, and safety (visibility and access). The safety aspect may seem contradictory to some, but that's some feedback I've received on full height partitions.

It is all about cost savings and the typical system being a bit modular.

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivlhol2

ivlmt4s

That’s an American thing and I’ve heard it’s because you can see if someone is in danger. Here in EU and most other European countries we have actual doors.

I don't understand what "the gap from the ground to the wall" means. Walls tend to stand on floors. If you're talking about the gap between the partition and the wall or the partition and the door, the only reason there are gaps is installation. I've been an architect for 30 years and I have never, ever, specified a stall gap for any reason in a commercial restroom and would be surprised if anyone has. So it's not about safety, it's not about anything except that's how they fit when it installation happened. I specified an stick-on astragal on the stall door to cover the gap between the door and the stile when our bathrooms went gender neutral at work. Only because some people wanted it. But as far as gaps and visibility in public restrooms, not a thing.

ypq24s

architecture_train

Why do public bathroom stalls have so little privacy? I recently had the misfortune of having to visit one such place at Dallas airport, and I found it astonishing how short the separatiung walls between stalls are and how large the gap from the ground to the wall is. Having seen fully private stalls at other major airports (like Amsterdam- Schipol) I'm trying to wrap my head around why bathroom stalls in public places are designed in this way most of the time. Is it just a matter of cost savings?

ivlhol2

ivm9w66

That’s an American thing and I’ve heard it’s because you can see if someone is in danger. Here in EU and most other European countries we have actual doors.

Cheaper, easier to clean, and easy to tell when somebody is doing something they’re not supposed to be doing in public like drugs or sex

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fghwp5d

fghy5qb

Developers bear the most risk.

Developments are made literally by companies that specialize in only doing those 99% of the time. There's no one "architect" or even architecture firm behind most developments just in the same way there's no "architect" that is behind every single mcdonalds that gets built. Most of these places have had their drawings made years ago and copied many many many times over in a piecemeal fashion. The only architect involved might have been when that development company was first building a library of aesthetic standards to put in their developments. From then, it's as easy as anyone who knows cad/how a building is built to just throw together a quick plan set for each new development. You'll find architects being hired for one-offs, not when a construction company is just building generic mixed use office #1203 or mcmansion development #203984

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fghwp5d

fghy7oz

Developers bear the most risk.

I say this as an architect; it is because we are not essential. You can build stuff with no knowledge whatsoever about building design and it still can get built as long as you have the money to pay for both construction and developer, albeit in usually terrible quality but still a building nonetheless.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi167m

fghwp5d

I'm in California and I see the architect's banner/logo on pretty much every single project around here (LA/SoCal)

Developers bear the most risk.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi10q3

fgi167m

You often see construction 'billboards' (for lack of a better word), that are displayed at sites under construction. Depending on the size of project, they usually mention the owner, architect, main contractor, project managers, etc. and a perspective. I thought this was a fairly common practice.

I'm in California and I see the architect's banner/logo on pretty much every single project around here (LA/SoCal)

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi6rmw

fghwp5d

Some projects don't have 3rd party architects. The construction firm or the developer might have in-house architects.

Developers bear the most risk.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi6rmw

fgi10q3

Some projects don't have 3rd party architects. The construction firm or the developer might have in-house architects.

You often see construction 'billboards' (for lack of a better word), that are displayed at sites under construction. Depending on the size of project, they usually mention the owner, architect, main contractor, project managers, etc. and a perspective. I thought this was a fairly common practice.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi6rmw

fgi1hxl

Some projects don't have 3rd party architects. The construction firm or the developer might have in-house architects.

Apart from truthful notion that "developers bear most of the risks", there is also an aspect of modern economic position of an architect, the market demands that buildings should be considered more as functional space with different aspects, such as social, hierarchical and so on. Since modern "elites" have a "sublime" "taste", there is no such thing as Vitruvius style position as an architect.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi25n1

fgi6rmw

In Australia, particularly with government work, you're not allowed to have promotional signage for the involved parties (beyond the standard site sign). There is a loop hole that the hoarding fences the builder puts up is just a safety barrier that happens to have their logo all over it. Also no, the building isn't just solely the architects grand vision. 99% of the time the developer has an established scope and budget and engages the architect as the design consultant, similar to the engineers being structural/services consultants.

Some projects don't have 3rd party architects. The construction firm or the developer might have in-house architects.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi3esn

fgi6rmw

Proper term is “contractor” not constructor

Some projects don't have 3rd party architects. The construction firm or the developer might have in-house architects.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fginrqg

fghwp5d

short answer, it's the developers fence

Developers bear the most risk.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi10q3

fginrqg

You often see construction 'billboards' (for lack of a better word), that are displayed at sites under construction. Depending on the size of project, they usually mention the owner, architect, main contractor, project managers, etc. and a perspective. I thought this was a fairly common practice.

short answer, it's the developers fence

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fginrqg

fgihhde

short answer, it's the developers fence

I hear this all the time at work - why isn't our name on the job site? It's because no one got around to making it happen. When they (likely the developer or contractor) discussed ordering the sign, the architect was unlikely part of that meeting. Just another oops. Ideally the entire team is on the job sign. But it's pretty rare. FWIW I've never known a developer/contractor to turn down the architect putting their name on the sign or putting up their own sign. Edit: spelling

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fginrqg

fgi1hxl

short answer, it's the developers fence

Apart from truthful notion that "developers bear most of the risks", there is also an aspect of modern economic position of an architect, the market demands that buildings should be considered more as functional space with different aspects, such as social, hierarchical and so on. Since modern "elites" have a "sublime" "taste", there is no such thing as Vitruvius style position as an architect.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fginrqg

fgi25n1

short answer, it's the developers fence

In Australia, particularly with government work, you're not allowed to have promotional signage for the involved parties (beyond the standard site sign). There is a loop hole that the hoarding fences the builder puts up is just a safety barrier that happens to have their logo all over it. Also no, the building isn't just solely the architects grand vision. 99% of the time the developer has an established scope and budget and engages the architect as the design consultant, similar to the engineers being structural/services consultants.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fginrqg

fgi3esn

short answer, it's the developers fence

Proper term is “contractor” not constructor

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgijkad

fginrqg

Usually they paid for the fence, especially on Design and Build Contract types (UK)

short answer, it's the developers fence

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgifkb9

fginrqg

It's the owners hard work being realized, not the architects. If I come to you with an idea you help me design, it's still my idea, you just provide a service. Modern architecture is much more about designing to meet code requirements than for aesthetic purposes.

short answer, it's the developers fence

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgihhde

fgi1hxl

I hear this all the time at work - why isn't our name on the job site? It's because no one got around to making it happen. When they (likely the developer or contractor) discussed ordering the sign, the architect was unlikely part of that meeting. Just another oops. Ideally the entire team is on the job sign. But it's pretty rare. FWIW I've never known a developer/contractor to turn down the architect putting their name on the sign or putting up their own sign. Edit: spelling

Apart from truthful notion that "developers bear most of the risks", there is also an aspect of modern economic position of an architect, the market demands that buildings should be considered more as functional space with different aspects, such as social, hierarchical and so on. Since modern "elites" have a "sublime" "taste", there is no such thing as Vitruvius style position as an architect.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi25n1

fgihhde

In Australia, particularly with government work, you're not allowed to have promotional signage for the involved parties (beyond the standard site sign). There is a loop hole that the hoarding fences the builder puts up is just a safety barrier that happens to have their logo all over it. Also no, the building isn't just solely the architects grand vision. 99% of the time the developer has an established scope and budget and engages the architect as the design consultant, similar to the engineers being structural/services consultants.

I hear this all the time at work - why isn't our name on the job site? It's because no one got around to making it happen. When they (likely the developer or contractor) discussed ordering the sign, the architect was unlikely part of that meeting. Just another oops. Ideally the entire team is on the job sign. But it's pretty rare. FWIW I've never known a developer/contractor to turn down the architect putting their name on the sign or putting up their own sign. Edit: spelling

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgi3esn

fgihhde

Proper term is “contractor” not constructor

I hear this all the time at work - why isn't our name on the job site? It's because no one got around to making it happen. When they (likely the developer or contractor) discussed ordering the sign, the architect was unlikely part of that meeting. Just another oops. Ideally the entire team is on the job sign. But it's pretty rare. FWIW I've never known a developer/contractor to turn down the architect putting their name on the sign or putting up their own sign. Edit: spelling

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgihhde

fgifkb9

I hear this all the time at work - why isn't our name on the job site? It's because no one got around to making it happen. When they (likely the developer or contractor) discussed ordering the sign, the architect was unlikely part of that meeting. Just another oops. Ideally the entire team is on the job sign. But it's pretty rare. FWIW I've never known a developer/contractor to turn down the architect putting their name on the sign or putting up their own sign. Edit: spelling

It's the owners hard work being realized, not the architects. If I come to you with an idea you help me design, it's still my idea, you just provide a service. Modern architecture is much more about designing to meet code requirements than for aesthetic purposes.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgijkad

fgifkb9

Usually they paid for the fence, especially on Design and Build Contract types (UK)

It's the owners hard work being realized, not the architects. If I come to you with an idea you help me design, it's still my idea, you just provide a service. Modern architecture is much more about designing to meet code requirements than for aesthetic purposes.

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fgifkb9

fgix9rp

It's the owners hard work being realized, not the architects. If I come to you with an idea you help me design, it's still my idea, you just provide a service. Modern architecture is much more about designing to meet code requirements than for aesthetic purposes.

You should read this book maybe: Architect & Developer

eyldhq

architecture_train

[Ask] Why are developers and constructors more important than architects? I don't know if it's like this everywhere but when a new development is being constructed and there are fences around it, the signs or the "sponsors" on the fences are always only the developer and the construction firm. Rarely, if ever there is an architect mentioned. But architect is really the one whose hard work is being realized, isn't it?

fglchpt

fgifkb9

Depends on how much it will do for marketing. 'Zaha Hadid' stadium? You'll *know it*. 'Fred Whathisname design house' they may get mentioned in the client sales brochure. At the end of the day the developer owns the fence. And believe me there'll be several meetings and contractual documents going back in forth in the early stages of a project to decide who's name is on the fence. Ps. Now you know how structural engineers feel 😞

It's the owners hard work being realized, not the architects. If I come to you with an idea you help me design, it's still my idea, you just provide a service. Modern architecture is much more about designing to meet code requirements than for aesthetic purposes.

9ciu6x

architecture_train

Do people really build mini models of buildings like they show in movies for new projects? If so, are those made by architects or someone else? [ask]

e5b815h

e5b4sbx

It's still really common, one big London firm I visited had a huge area dedicated for it, like a full on high tech workshop, with 3d printers and a lot of wood. Almost all the firms I've visited had models on display.

Firms like kandor in London make some, or some larger. Firms have in-house teams. Most architects will also be decent modelmakers because of doing it at university but othan their first few years working that's not a good use of their time.

9ciu6x

architecture_train

Do people really build mini models of buildings like they show in movies for new projects? If so, are those made by architects or someone else? [ask]

e5b6hyc

e5b815h

Sometimes, personally only once. Most of my model making was at university. There's a lot of specialist firms which you can outsource to which tends to be better business-wise. I found it best to use mount board (thick, dense card) and stick to a simple colour palette; scale models are best used for demonstrating scale, light and form - not materials, for which you're best off using mood boards.

It's still really common, one big London firm I visited had a huge area dedicated for it, like a full on high tech workshop, with 3d printers and a lot of wood. Almost all the firms I've visited had models on display.

9ciu6x

architecture_train

Do people really build mini models of buildings like they show in movies for new projects? If so, are those made by architects or someone else? [ask]

e5bcqj2

e5b8yq8

With the gaining ease of 3D rendering, real mini models are becoming less frequent. They can also cost a lot of money (thousands of dollars) depending on intricacy and quality but sometimes they’re necessary, like for urban projects or skyscrapers. I would say it’s not a dying market but it’s definitely losing steam as 3D renderings become more acceptable and even better for conceptualizing designs. Your best bet would be to work in large offices, but even they likely have their model building staff already. (My office has about 500 people and only about 3 model makers.). I would say don’t put yourself into a niche position like that one...know your market. Good luck.

And if you happen to be caught by the model making fever, and if you're good, you could even make it your job, there plenty of firms that offers they're experience and work just in making models

9ciu6x

architecture_train

Do people really build mini models of buildings like they show in movies for new projects? If so, are those made by architects or someone else? [ask]

e5b9dob

e5bcqj2

Pinterest has plenty of scale models from archi students and practising architects for you to click through endlessly. We also make site models of the context around the target site, which can be just as captivating in a different way. A good chunk of an architecture students' time will be spent making models. In practice, work becomes specialised, especially in bigger firms, so it varies, other answers have covered how this gets distributed.

With the gaining ease of 3D rendering, real mini models are becoming less frequent. They can also cost a lot of money (thousands of dollars) depending on intricacy and quality but sometimes they’re necessary, like for urban projects or skyscrapers. I would say it’s not a dying market but it’s definitely losing steam as 3D renderings become more acceptable and even better for conceptualizing designs. Your best bet would be to work in large offices, but even they likely have their model building staff already. (My office has about 500 people and only about 3 model makers.). I would say don’t put yourself into a niche position like that one...know your market. Good luck.

9ciu6x

architecture_train

Do people really build mini models of buildings like they show in movies for new projects? If so, are those made by architects or someone else? [ask]

e5bcqj2

e5b8we4

With the gaining ease of 3D rendering, real mini models are becoming less frequent. They can also cost a lot of money (thousands of dollars) depending on intricacy and quality but sometimes they’re necessary, like for urban projects or skyscrapers. I would say it’s not a dying market but it’s definitely losing steam as 3D renderings become more acceptable and even better for conceptualizing designs. Your best bet would be to work in large offices, but even they likely have their model building staff already. (My office has about 500 people and only about 3 model makers.). I would say don’t put yourself into a niche position like that one...know your market. Good luck.

And then there's Renzo Piano Building Workshop studio where the model making area is, basically, and entirly indipendent atelier, our, indeed, a workshop.

9ciu6x

architecture_train

Do people really build mini models of buildings like they show in movies for new projects? If so, are those made by architects or someone else? [ask]

e5b8yq8

e5b8we4

And if you happen to be caught by the model making fever, and if you're good, you could even make it your job, there plenty of firms that offers they're experience and work just in making models

And then there's Renzo Piano Building Workshop studio where the model making area is, basically, and entirly indipendent atelier, our, indeed, a workshop.

9ciu6x

architecture_train

Do people really build mini models of buildings like they show in movies for new projects? If so, are those made by architects or someone else? [ask]

e5b8we4

e5b9dob

And then there's Renzo Piano Building Workshop studio where the model making area is, basically, and entirly indipendent atelier, our, indeed, a workshop.

Pinterest has plenty of scale models from archi students and practising architects for you to click through endlessly. We also make site models of the context around the target site, which can be just as captivating in a different way. A good chunk of an architecture students' time will be spent making models. In practice, work becomes specialised, especially in bigger firms, so it varies, other answers have covered how this gets distributed.

9ciu6x

architecture_train

Do people really build mini models of buildings like they show in movies for new projects? If so, are those made by architects or someone else? [ask]

e5b8we4

e5be8lm

And then there's Renzo Piano Building Workshop studio where the model making area is, basically, and entirly indipendent atelier, our, indeed, a workshop.

Yes but if you are a *Better Call Saul* fan and that prompted this question, that room of models, with a drastically unique design for every branch and dramatic lighting was ridiculous.

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6yie4o

e6ymba2

It would be nice if the brightness could be adjustable, so there always is enough light. Also if the lamp can be moved around the drafting table, that is useful too, this way all the angles can be lit, especially when building a maquette.

Something that doesn’t cast a shadow. Seriously- diffuse light, from multiple directions/ sources. All that said- few architects would need one these days, they were a lot more relevant when drafting boards were common. These days its all done on computers, and they’re backlit :)

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6ymba2

e6yi0j2

Something that doesn’t cast a shadow. Seriously- diffuse light, from multiple directions/ sources. All that said- few architects would need one these days, they were a lot more relevant when drafting boards were common. These days its all done on computers, and they’re backlit :)

Is it a lamp inspired by architects or a lamp designed for architects?

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6ymba2

e6yja8r

Something that doesn’t cast a shadow. Seriously- diffuse light, from multiple directions/ sources. All that said- few architects would need one these days, they were a lot more relevant when drafting boards were common. These days its all done on computers, and they’re backlit :)

Contrary to most advice already given many architects I know won’t draft in paper as they used to. They will sketch a lot casually. I would think more on a backlit table or something.

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6yie4o

e6ys1wa

It would be nice if the brightness could be adjustable, so there always is enough light. Also if the lamp can be moved around the drafting table, that is useful too, this way all the angles can be lit, especially when building a maquette.

Idea 1 One that is portable and can turn into a back lit light box so that we can trace plans over aerial photographs for example Idea 2 A light that can be set to certain sun angles for shadow diagrams I.e. Equinox 9am Equinox 10am Equinox 11 am etc. Also include solstices Aaaand maybe longitude... Idea 3 Subtle grid within the light that can change scale Or set up perspective lines Or axonometric lines Idea 4 Something that contains black light so we can see our dark secret code designs that exist within every notable building (don’t think for a second that we haven’t)

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6ys1wa

e6yn9xm

Idea 1 One that is portable and can turn into a back lit light box so that we can trace plans over aerial photographs for example Idea 2 A light that can be set to certain sun angles for shadow diagrams I.e. Equinox 9am Equinox 10am Equinox 11 am etc. Also include solstices Aaaand maybe longitude... Idea 3 Subtle grid within the light that can change scale Or set up perspective lines Or axonometric lines Idea 4 Something that contains black light so we can see our dark secret code designs that exist within every notable building (don’t think for a second that we haven’t)

Ra>90

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6ys1wa

e6yi0j2

Idea 1 One that is portable and can turn into a back lit light box so that we can trace plans over aerial photographs for example Idea 2 A light that can be set to certain sun angles for shadow diagrams I.e. Equinox 9am Equinox 10am Equinox 11 am etc. Also include solstices Aaaand maybe longitude... Idea 3 Subtle grid within the light that can change scale Or set up perspective lines Or axonometric lines Idea 4 Something that contains black light so we can see our dark secret code designs that exist within every notable building (don’t think for a second that we haven’t)

Is it a lamp inspired by architects or a lamp designed for architects?

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6yja8r

e6ys1wa

Contrary to most advice already given many architects I know won’t draft in paper as they used to. They will sketch a lot casually. I would think more on a backlit table or something.

Idea 1 One that is portable and can turn into a back lit light box so that we can trace plans over aerial photographs for example Idea 2 A light that can be set to certain sun angles for shadow diagrams I.e. Equinox 9am Equinox 10am Equinox 11 am etc. Also include solstices Aaaand maybe longitude... Idea 3 Subtle grid within the light that can change scale Or set up perspective lines Or axonometric lines Idea 4 Something that contains black light so we can see our dark secret code designs that exist within every notable building (don’t think for a second that we haven’t)

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6yotxi

e6ys1wa

some form of on/off switch is usually a good idea.

Idea 1 One that is portable and can turn into a back lit light box so that we can trace plans over aerial photographs for example Idea 2 A light that can be set to certain sun angles for shadow diagrams I.e. Equinox 9am Equinox 10am Equinox 11 am etc. Also include solstices Aaaand maybe longitude... Idea 3 Subtle grid within the light that can change scale Or set up perspective lines Or axonometric lines Idea 4 Something that contains black light so we can see our dark secret code designs that exist within every notable building (don’t think for a second that we haven’t)

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6yie4o

e6yi0j2

It would be nice if the brightness could be adjustable, so there always is enough light. Also if the lamp can be moved around the drafting table, that is useful too, this way all the angles can be lit, especially when building a maquette.

Is it a lamp inspired by architects or a lamp designed for architects?

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6yi0j2

e6yn9xm

Is it a lamp inspired by architects or a lamp designed for architects?

Ra>90

9kefio

architecture_train

[ask] Architects of Reddit. What are some important features in an architect's lamp and why? I am a Product Development and innovation student and i have gotten the assignment of designing an architect's lamp. Since i am not an architect but a casual user, i thought it wise to ask the specialist users.

e6yja8r

e6yn9xm

Contrary to most advice already given many architects I know won’t draft in paper as they used to. They will sketch a lot casually. I would think more on a backlit table or something.

Ra>90

vyw9mh

architecture_train

Just graduated Uni, working full time and I don't love my job but I don't hate it. Wondering what else is out there that I can do with architecture? As the title says, I want to know ahead of time what I could do with my career. I've thought about going back to grad school and becoming registered. I've thought about taking classes at community college about construction management, figured that could help me in my career. I have experience now with adobe, 3d modeling, and am a quick learner to learn these different programs but feel like I'm not doing enough because I don't use them anymore unless I'm drafting for my job. What are some things that you have thought about or have done for your career as an architect?

ig5atnc

ig6j2cf

I felt similar when I first graduated and started working at an arch firm. All my other jobs before had been in retail/sales, much more fast paced and there was more of an instant gratification in sales. It took me a while to get used to sitting behind a desk all day, and projects taking forever, but now I love my job and I wouldn’t want to do anything else. I think it’s normal to feel this way, it’s part of the adjustment. I would give it a year or so and see if you still feel the same.

Construction management is mostly dispute resolution. Contractors pushing Change Orders, Architects covering their asses and Owners not wanting to pay extra. It’s unpleasant.

tykkas

architecture_train

High school student wanting to pursue architecture but cannot draw - how do I learn? Currently i work a lot at school with product design - woodwork, 3d design with programs like Fusion 360, 2d CAD, lasercutters, CNC, 3d printing and all that jazz. In the future I want to move into architecture. I love learning about the history and coming up with concepts, floorplans, and the like, but I cannot draw well for the life of me. I no longer have the opportunity to take art classes at school. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn how to draw - both artistically and technically?

i3t3tf5

i3svy9o

In addition to the comments about drafting - drawing is a skill, not a talent. It takes practice to connect what you see in the world (or your mind) with what you can put down on paper. A lot of that skill will come through your degree, but the best way to get better is to begin sketching from real life as much as possible.

Take a drafting class. You will learn the basics. You have to learn to draw before learning CAD

tykkas

architecture_train

High school student wanting to pursue architecture but cannot draw - how do I learn? Currently i work a lot at school with product design - woodwork, 3d design with programs like Fusion 360, 2d CAD, lasercutters, CNC, 3d printing and all that jazz. In the future I want to move into architecture. I love learning about the history and coming up with concepts, floorplans, and the like, but I cannot draw well for the life of me. I no longer have the opportunity to take art classes at school. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn how to draw - both artistically and technically?

i3tg7xi

i3tz8xh

Talent can only take you so far, people with far less talent that put the effort and time always end up with better drawing skills than those with talent that don't put in the effort. As others have said, digital drafting has mostly pushed away the hand made stuff, but that doesn't mean it's a bad skill to have, it gives you the bases for the digital stuff, and in meetings with clients, it's always cool to sketch some ideas and show them to the clients to help make their imagination run and get more information on projects

Grab a notebook, go outside, draw the first building you see. Do this 100 times. There is literally no other way. There are no “tricks” to leading how to draw quickly. You literally just have to draw. I had an assignment in 1st year studio where we had to buy a small 3”x5” notebook and fill it with 100 drawings of buildings around town. We had 1 day to do it.

tykkas

architecture_train

High school student wanting to pursue architecture but cannot draw - how do I learn? Currently i work a lot at school with product design - woodwork, 3d design with programs like Fusion 360, 2d CAD, lasercutters, CNC, 3d printing and all that jazz. In the future I want to move into architecture. I love learning about the history and coming up with concepts, floorplans, and the like, but I cannot draw well for the life of me. I no longer have the opportunity to take art classes at school. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn how to draw - both artistically and technically?

i3tt0zv

i3tz8xh

Most architecture involves straight lines. A ruler and a pencil, with some basic drawing principals and architectural standards, is all you really need. Once you know how to draw a plan by hand, you can move on to CAD. I haven't drawn a plan by hand since graduating university, and my firm has used AutoCAD and other CAD drafting programs for over two decades. Except for concepts and scribbling down ideas, you likely won't be hand-drafting all that often. Don't get me wrong, KNOWING how to draw the stuff by hand is important, but don't think you'll be drawing everything by hand for everything you do. I do everything by computer personally, so "good hand drawing" skills are not really required. Edit: Every concept I have ever drawn, I drew up in CAD or Unreal or Revit or SketchUp. Being able to put stuff on paper with your hand is a good skill, but you don't necessarily need to be "good" at it to be a designer or architect.

Grab a notebook, go outside, draw the first building you see. Do this 100 times. There is literally no other way. There are no “tricks” to leading how to draw quickly. You literally just have to draw. I had an assignment in 1st year studio where we had to buy a small 3”x5” notebook and fill it with 100 drawings of buildings around town. We had 1 day to do it.

tykkas

architecture_train

High school student wanting to pursue architecture but cannot draw - how do I learn? Currently i work a lot at school with product design - woodwork, 3d design with programs like Fusion 360, 2d CAD, lasercutters, CNC, 3d printing and all that jazz. In the future I want to move into architecture. I love learning about the history and coming up with concepts, floorplans, and the like, but I cannot draw well for the life of me. I no longer have the opportunity to take art classes at school. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn how to draw - both artistically and technically?

i3tg7xi

i3uu12j

Talent can only take you so far, people with far less talent that put the effort and time always end up with better drawing skills than those with talent that don't put in the effort. As others have said, digital drafting has mostly pushed away the hand made stuff, but that doesn't mean it's a bad skill to have, it gives you the bases for the digital stuff, and in meetings with clients, it's always cool to sketch some ideas and show them to the clients to help make their imagination run and get more information on projects

How often would an architect ever sketch a building? I'd say learn to sketch floor plans and adjacency diagrams. You might sketch over an elevation in a meeting. Sketching and conveying concepts is a useful skill to hone.

tykkas

architecture_train

High school student wanting to pursue architecture but cannot draw - how do I learn? Currently i work a lot at school with product design - woodwork, 3d design with programs like Fusion 360, 2d CAD, lasercutters, CNC, 3d printing and all that jazz. In the future I want to move into architecture. I love learning about the history and coming up with concepts, floorplans, and the like, but I cannot draw well for the life of me. I no longer have the opportunity to take art classes at school. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn how to draw - both artistically and technically?

i3uu12j

i3tt0zv

How often would an architect ever sketch a building? I'd say learn to sketch floor plans and adjacency diagrams. You might sketch over an elevation in a meeting. Sketching and conveying concepts is a useful skill to hone.

Most architecture involves straight lines. A ruler and a pencil, with some basic drawing principals and architectural standards, is all you really need. Once you know how to draw a plan by hand, you can move on to CAD. I haven't drawn a plan by hand since graduating university, and my firm has used AutoCAD and other CAD drafting programs for over two decades. Except for concepts and scribbling down ideas, you likely won't be hand-drafting all that often. Don't get me wrong, KNOWING how to draw the stuff by hand is important, but don't think you'll be drawing everything by hand for everything you do. I do everything by computer personally, so "good hand drawing" skills are not really required. Edit: Every concept I have ever drawn, I drew up in CAD or Unreal or Revit or SketchUp. Being able to put stuff on paper with your hand is a good skill, but you don't necessarily need to be "good" at it to be a designer or architect.

tykkas

architecture_train

High school student wanting to pursue architecture but cannot draw - how do I learn? Currently i work a lot at school with product design - woodwork, 3d design with programs like Fusion 360, 2d CAD, lasercutters, CNC, 3d printing and all that jazz. In the future I want to move into architecture. I love learning about the history and coming up with concepts, floorplans, and the like, but I cannot draw well for the life of me. I no longer have the opportunity to take art classes at school. Does anyone have any tips on how to learn how to draw - both artistically and technically?

i3uq752

i3uu12j

www.drawabox.com

How often would an architect ever sketch a building? I'd say learn to sketch floor plans and adjacency diagrams. You might sketch over an elevation in a meeting. Sketching and conveying concepts is a useful skill to hone.

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

huhnab2

huhmv0l

Architecture: Form, Space and Order by Francis Ching A History of Architecture by Sir Banister Fletcher

Illustrated History of Architecture by Bill Riserbero, anything that involves the history of the discipline (it must be well explained, with it's historical background and all) it's good, you can start by eurocentric architecture, the move forward with Oriental, American and on

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

huhmv0l

hui5e5m

Illustrated History of Architecture by Bill Riserbero, anything that involves the history of the discipline (it must be well explained, with it's historical background and all) it's good, you can start by eurocentric architecture, the move forward with Oriental, American and on

Atmosoheres. Peter Zumthor

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui5e5m

huhvohx

Atmosoheres. Peter Zumthor

101 Things I Learned in Architecture School, by Matthew Frederick, was assigned reading when I started school, and while not a long read (a series of blurbs and thoughts really) I found it helpful remembering key concepts. I'll second the vote for Form Space Order, or really, any book by Francis Ching; some might be a little more advanced at the beginning, but at some point I'm sure you'll use most of them.

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui5e5m

huhxzb4

Atmosoheres. Peter Zumthor

Loving Frank & the Architect’s Handbook of Professional Practice Jk just sketch. All day. Every day. Sketch.

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui5e5m

hui0caj

Atmosoheres. Peter Zumthor

Vincent Scully's *Architecture: The Natural and the Manmade* and Kenneth Frampton's *Modern Architecture: A Critical History*.

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui2l3u

hui5e5m

The Language of Architecture by andrea smith and Val warke was a fun primer

Atmosoheres. Peter Zumthor

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui54qy

hui5e5m

Neufert. Incredibly valuable handbook that supplies you with every possible dimensioning and comfortabilty of use for any scenario.

Atmosoheres. Peter Zumthor

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui603f

huhmv0l

Invisible Cities

Illustrated History of Architecture by Bill Riserbero, anything that involves the history of the discipline (it must be well explained, with it's historical background and all) it's good, you can start by eurocentric architecture, the move forward with Oriental, American and on

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui603f

huhvohx

Invisible Cities

101 Things I Learned in Architecture School, by Matthew Frederick, was assigned reading when I started school, and while not a long read (a series of blurbs and thoughts really) I found it helpful remembering key concepts. I'll second the vote for Form Space Order, or really, any book by Francis Ching; some might be a little more advanced at the beginning, but at some point I'm sure you'll use most of them.

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

huhxzb4

hui603f

Loving Frank & the Architect’s Handbook of Professional Practice Jk just sketch. All day. Every day. Sketch.

Invisible Cities

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui603f

hui0caj

Invisible Cities

Vincent Scully's *Architecture: The Natural and the Manmade* and Kenneth Frampton's *Modern Architecture: A Critical History*.

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui2l3u

hui603f

The Language of Architecture by andrea smith and Val warke was a fun primer

Invisible Cities

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui54qy

hui603f

Neufert. Incredibly valuable handbook that supplies you with every possible dimensioning and comfortabilty of use for any scenario.

Invisible Cities

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hui2l3u

hujirbp

The Language of Architecture by andrea smith and Val warke was a fun primer

These have been really helpful to me in school so far: Architecture as Space by Bruno Zevi Mathematics of the Ideal Villa by Colin Rowe Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture by Robert Venturi Translations from Drawing to Building and Other Essays by Robin Evans

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hujirbp

hui54qy

These have been really helpful to me in school so far: Architecture as Space by Bruno Zevi Mathematics of the Ideal Villa by Colin Rowe Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture by Robert Venturi Translations from Drawing to Building and Other Essays by Robin Evans

Neufert. Incredibly valuable handbook that supplies you with every possible dimensioning and comfortabilty of use for any scenario.

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

hujirbp

huih96h

These have been really helpful to me in school so far: Architecture as Space by Bruno Zevi Mathematics of the Ideal Villa by Colin Rowe Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture by Robert Venturi Translations from Drawing to Building and Other Essays by Robin Evans

Maybe Delirious New York, A place of my own, or Visual thinking?

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

huika1c

hujirbp

Neuferts Architects data

These have been really helpful to me in school so far: Architecture as Space by Bruno Zevi Mathematics of the Ideal Villa by Colin Rowe Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture by Robert Venturi Translations from Drawing to Building and Other Essays by Robin Evans

se841j

architecture_train

What books would you recommend for a just starting architecture student? I'm starting my architecture bachelor course this year and I'd really appreciate some book recommendations.

huj4hkx

hujirbp

Someone recommended “A place of my own” by David pollan a while ago. I picked it up and it was great

These have been really helpful to me in school so far: Architecture as Space by Bruno Zevi Mathematics of the Ideal Villa by Colin Rowe Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture by Robert Venturi Translations from Drawing to Building and Other Essays by Robin Evans

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii6bt9s

ii5kp4d

I've taught and lectured at a few schools. I tend to find programs that don't have any design/build class, even as an elective, focus a lot on what they like to call theory but is typically the opinion of the studio professors and their GAs or worse, some fashionable attempt at automating design via software. The sad part of this is that quite a bit of architectural theory relates to the tectonics and construction technology and all the little rebellious ideologies that accounted for many of the major historical shifts. When you take the craft of building out of the equation (virtual or physical) you end up with an argument without a test, some sort of philosophical screaming into the void. Sure there are ideas, perhaps even good ones, but there is no real rigor to them. If you can't test your ideas, how can you refine and improve them? One of the reasons I sold my firm(s), besides hating running a business that employed other people and had to keep them fed and those worries, was the disconnect I saw coming out of a lot of the schools with new hires and applicants, between the ideology and the practicality or architecture. I still have fun arguing with students (which I do, because they need people to argue with instead of berating them), but juggling that with running a firm, and figuring out why/what I was designing and the reasons behind it was not worth the stress. Even if you are currently in a program that doesn't offer D/B, go build something. Do a Habitat for Humanity summer build, or work with a contractor, at the very least try to fix something slightly beyond your comfort zone. Not only to see how it goes together, but how you as a human have to manipulate and interface with it, especially for repairs.

Licensure is a money grab scheme imo for anyone who has graduated within that country from an architecture programme. Where I'm from a master of architecture from this country -> automatic license. You can apply to extra bonus add ons to your license (like "very complex healthcare buildings") but most people see that this is bullshit. People with degrees from other countries, fine, some sort of verification to make sure degree is equivalent (although work experience can override this). Sorry but to me it sounds like over complicated beaurocratic bullshit and either they're milking you dry or your universities are not good enough to spit out qualified architects. Sorry not sorry.

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii5ktsn

ii6bt9s

Both of our summer interns this year only knew Rhino coming into the office and were unable to work on drawings in Revit for at least two weeks. This might be a problem with the individual college they had come from, but I'm worried universities are relying too much of firms to actually teach students to work and not teaching them office related skills in favor of theory.

I've taught and lectured at a few schools. I tend to find programs that don't have any design/build class, even as an elective, focus a lot on what they like to call theory but is typically the opinion of the studio professors and their GAs or worse, some fashionable attempt at automating design via software. The sad part of this is that quite a bit of architectural theory relates to the tectonics and construction technology and all the little rebellious ideologies that accounted for many of the major historical shifts. When you take the craft of building out of the equation (virtual or physical) you end up with an argument without a test, some sort of philosophical screaming into the void. Sure there are ideas, perhaps even good ones, but there is no real rigor to them. If you can't test your ideas, how can you refine and improve them? One of the reasons I sold my firm(s), besides hating running a business that employed other people and had to keep them fed and those worries, was the disconnect I saw coming out of a lot of the schools with new hires and applicants, between the ideology and the practicality or architecture. I still have fun arguing with students (which I do, because they need people to argue with instead of berating them), but juggling that with running a firm, and figuring out why/what I was designing and the reasons behind it was not worth the stress. Even if you are currently in a program that doesn't offer D/B, go build something. Do a Habitat for Humanity summer build, or work with a contractor, at the very least try to fix something slightly beyond your comfort zone. Not only to see how it goes together, but how you as a human have to manipulate and interface with it, especially for repairs.

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii698ew

ii6bt9s

Not a fan. Glorified art degree with only 4 classes (in my school) actually helping after the degree. The practical is severely lacking, and what’s there is disconnected.

I've taught and lectured at a few schools. I tend to find programs that don't have any design/build class, even as an elective, focus a lot on what they like to call theory but is typically the opinion of the studio professors and their GAs or worse, some fashionable attempt at automating design via software. The sad part of this is that quite a bit of architectural theory relates to the tectonics and construction technology and all the little rebellious ideologies that accounted for many of the major historical shifts. When you take the craft of building out of the equation (virtual or physical) you end up with an argument without a test, some sort of philosophical screaming into the void. Sure there are ideas, perhaps even good ones, but there is no real rigor to them. If you can't test your ideas, how can you refine and improve them? One of the reasons I sold my firm(s), besides hating running a business that employed other people and had to keep them fed and those worries, was the disconnect I saw coming out of a lot of the schools with new hires and applicants, between the ideology and the practicality or architecture. I still have fun arguing with students (which I do, because they need people to argue with instead of berating them), but juggling that with running a firm, and figuring out why/what I was designing and the reasons behind it was not worth the stress. Even if you are currently in a program that doesn't offer D/B, go build something. Do a Habitat for Humanity summer build, or work with a contractor, at the very least try to fix something slightly beyond your comfort zone. Not only to see how it goes together, but how you as a human have to manipulate and interface with it, especially for repairs.

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii5utp6

ii6bt9s

The whole thing is completely broken. In a way it almost seems diabolically planned to make money for a few organizers at the top, but it is way too messy to be planned. Pretty sure this is all the result of incompetence.

I've taught and lectured at a few schools. I tend to find programs that don't have any design/build class, even as an elective, focus a lot on what they like to call theory but is typically the opinion of the studio professors and their GAs or worse, some fashionable attempt at automating design via software. The sad part of this is that quite a bit of architectural theory relates to the tectonics and construction technology and all the little rebellious ideologies that accounted for many of the major historical shifts. When you take the craft of building out of the equation (virtual or physical) you end up with an argument without a test, some sort of philosophical screaming into the void. Sure there are ideas, perhaps even good ones, but there is no real rigor to them. If you can't test your ideas, how can you refine and improve them? One of the reasons I sold my firm(s), besides hating running a business that employed other people and had to keep them fed and those worries, was the disconnect I saw coming out of a lot of the schools with new hires and applicants, between the ideology and the practicality or architecture. I still have fun arguing with students (which I do, because they need people to argue with instead of berating them), but juggling that with running a firm, and figuring out why/what I was designing and the reasons behind it was not worth the stress. Even if you are currently in a program that doesn't offer D/B, go build something. Do a Habitat for Humanity summer build, or work with a contractor, at the very least try to fix something slightly beyond your comfort zone. Not only to see how it goes together, but how you as a human have to manipulate and interface with it, especially for repairs.

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii6bt9s

ii66iig

I've taught and lectured at a few schools. I tend to find programs that don't have any design/build class, even as an elective, focus a lot on what they like to call theory but is typically the opinion of the studio professors and their GAs or worse, some fashionable attempt at automating design via software. The sad part of this is that quite a bit of architectural theory relates to the tectonics and construction technology and all the little rebellious ideologies that accounted for many of the major historical shifts. When you take the craft of building out of the equation (virtual or physical) you end up with an argument without a test, some sort of philosophical screaming into the void. Sure there are ideas, perhaps even good ones, but there is no real rigor to them. If you can't test your ideas, how can you refine and improve them? One of the reasons I sold my firm(s), besides hating running a business that employed other people and had to keep them fed and those worries, was the disconnect I saw coming out of a lot of the schools with new hires and applicants, between the ideology and the practicality or architecture. I still have fun arguing with students (which I do, because they need people to argue with instead of berating them), but juggling that with running a firm, and figuring out why/what I was designing and the reasons behind it was not worth the stress. Even if you are currently in a program that doesn't offer D/B, go build something. Do a Habitat for Humanity summer build, or work with a contractor, at the very least try to fix something slightly beyond your comfort zone. Not only to see how it goes together, but how you as a human have to manipulate and interface with it, especially for repairs.

economics. threats.

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii698ew

ii7bqu5

Not a fan. Glorified art degree with only 4 classes (in my school) actually helping after the degree. The practical is severely lacking, and what’s there is disconnected.

I'm clearly in the minority, but I think that university courses SHOULD be largely about the "arty farty" side of architecture and learning how to learn. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have any practical subjects, but they also should be more theoretically biased so that you're learning the principles behind the outcome, not just the outcome itself. That said, I went through a program where we had 1 day and 2 nights a week at uni, and 4 days a week working in practice (full time on uni holidays) so there really wasn't a need to teach the more pragmatic aspects because you were learning that on the job (and by 3rd year most of us had more 'real world' experience than the lecturers who were lifelong academics). Uni was a fun departure from work where you got to test out crazy ideas and flex your design skills and I pushed those limits hard - I would often come up with completely impractical and often physically impossible designs, but both my lecturers and myself KNEW they were theoretical exercises so it was always treated as such. Edit: Studied and work in Australia - 6 year degree, been practicing (post graduation) for 16 years.

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii6h20m

ii7bqu5

Too much focus on groundbreaking conceptual ideas, not enough on user experience and connecting to its specific context. Not that I’m saying they should full on replicate the surroundings but some of the projects my peers came up with had no business in the urban site we were given. Sculptures surrounded by featureless dead space.

I'm clearly in the minority, but I think that university courses SHOULD be largely about the "arty farty" side of architecture and learning how to learn. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have any practical subjects, but they also should be more theoretically biased so that you're learning the principles behind the outcome, not just the outcome itself. That said, I went through a program where we had 1 day and 2 nights a week at uni, and 4 days a week working in practice (full time on uni holidays) so there really wasn't a need to teach the more pragmatic aspects because you were learning that on the job (and by 3rd year most of us had more 'real world' experience than the lecturers who were lifelong academics). Uni was a fun departure from work where you got to test out crazy ideas and flex your design skills and I pushed those limits hard - I would often come up with completely impractical and often physically impossible designs, but both my lecturers and myself KNEW they were theoretical exercises so it was always treated as such. Edit: Studied and work in Australia - 6 year degree, been practicing (post graduation) for 16 years.

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii7bqu5

ii5utp6

I'm clearly in the minority, but I think that university courses SHOULD be largely about the "arty farty" side of architecture and learning how to learn. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have any practical subjects, but they also should be more theoretically biased so that you're learning the principles behind the outcome, not just the outcome itself. That said, I went through a program where we had 1 day and 2 nights a week at uni, and 4 days a week working in practice (full time on uni holidays) so there really wasn't a need to teach the more pragmatic aspects because you were learning that on the job (and by 3rd year most of us had more 'real world' experience than the lecturers who were lifelong academics). Uni was a fun departure from work where you got to test out crazy ideas and flex your design skills and I pushed those limits hard - I would often come up with completely impractical and often physically impossible designs, but both my lecturers and myself KNEW they were theoretical exercises so it was always treated as such. Edit: Studied and work in Australia - 6 year degree, been practicing (post graduation) for 16 years.

The whole thing is completely broken. In a way it almost seems diabolically planned to make money for a few organizers at the top, but it is way too messy to be planned. Pretty sure this is all the result of incompetence.

wb94sz

architecture_train

What do you think about the way architecture is being taught in US schools? So I study in Mexico and I went to Chicago for an architecture summer program at UIC. I know it varies from school to school but it was just weird to me seeing people already having a bachelors degree in Architecture and not knowing how to build a model, or draw a section. Am I crazy? I’ve heard becoming a licensed architect in the US takes an average of 13 years! Why is nobody talking about this? What do you guys think? Maybe I just like more the way it’s taught in Mexico idk.

ii66iig

ii7bqu5

economics. threats.

I'm clearly in the minority, but I think that university courses SHOULD be largely about the "arty farty" side of architecture and learning how to learn. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have any practical subjects, but they also should be more theoretically biased so that you're learning the principles behind the outcome, not just the outcome itself. That said, I went through a program where we had 1 day and 2 nights a week at uni, and 4 days a week working in practice (full time on uni holidays) so there really wasn't a need to teach the more pragmatic aspects because you were learning that on the job (and by 3rd year most of us had more 'real world' experience than the lecturers who were lifelong academics). Uni was a fun departure from work where you got to test out crazy ideas and flex your design skills and I pushed those limits hard - I would often come up with completely impractical and often physically impossible designs, but both my lecturers and myself KNEW they were theoretical exercises so it was always treated as such. Edit: Studied and work in Australia - 6 year degree, been practicing (post graduation) for 16 years.