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Please, define cell church. I missed it somewhere in the past when this
was brought up before. | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
In <MARC.93Apr18174241@oliver.mit.edu> marc@mit.edu (Marc Horowitz
I have also been in contact with Mitch about this. I believe
him when he says he didn't ask to be on the "clipper" list.
He also forwarded the traffic he had recieved through that list to
me which will be placed at some ftp site.
However, the first alias on the "clipper list" was csspab which was
another mailing list. It basically contained the addresses for
staffers and board members of the NIST security board. Several of
these people had their accounts within the dockmaster domain.
These are the people we might wish to FOIA...
/harry | 11 | sci.crypt |
I suggest that misc.consumer.house is a better forum for this, several
electricians, a huge FAQ that adresses ALL the issues raised here.
-- | 12 | sci.electronics |
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Metal tape compatible. Fader.......Orig $299
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If you are interested in any of the above items, or have any questions
drop me some E-Mail. | 6 | misc.forsale |
What is Pink noise and how is it used in sound experiments?
-tony
wayne@uva386.schools.virginia.edu
| 12 | sci.electronics |
You mean he talks about those Jews, who, because of their self
hatred, spend all their time attacking Judaism, Jews, and Israel,
using the most despicable of anti-Semetic stereotypes?
I don't think we need to coin a term like "Jedeo-Nazism" to
refer to those Jews who, in their endless desire to be accepted by the
Nazis, do their dirty work for them. We can just call them house
Jews, fools, or anti-Semites from Jewish families.
I think "house Jews," a reference to a person of Jewish
ancestry who issues statements for a company or organization that
condemn Judaism is perfectly sufficeint. I think a few years free of
their anti-Semetic role models would do wonders for most of them.
Adam
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
But he said,
Yea rather,
blessed are they
that hear the word of God,
and keep it. | 19 | talk.religion.misc |
when does carrying a tool classify someone as a rambo. so all the
pioneers that came west were rambo's? adrienne!!! :-)
would your tune change if you were one of the "dozen or two bear attacks"?
believe me, when you need a firearm, you NEED a firearm.
please cite your references. i'll let others (please note followup)
cite valid references to show you that this is an untruth.
well, you might as well go naked. forget the matches, backpack, sleeping
bag and all the rest that's is a modern convenience. a firearm is just
a tool. as some people won't carry gaiters, some people do. firearms
should be in the same category. it should be a personal choice.
and your factoid about shooting victims in the ER. count how many come in
due to automobile accidents and automobile crimes. maybe we should outlaw
cars.
| 16 | talk.politics.guns |
Why don't you call the City and ask? Oak Park also has an illegal handgun
ban as well, but does allow those with a "collectors FFL" to possess
("collectible?") handguns.
Probably a fine in practical terms.
It wouldn't impede your defense at all. There was an actual incident
in Oak Park where a gas station owner engaged in a shootout with a
handgun; the grand jury decided not to presecute. On the other hand,
a black man used an illegally owned handgun in Oak Park to defend
himself, and the Village tried to make an example out of him. An NRA
Director who lived there made a stink about this, and it was decided
not to charge the guy. Of course, pissing off anti-gun police thugs
has it's own drawbacks, like when the Oak Park Police Chief came to his
house, and told him: "this is stepping over the line; this could get
dangerous for you." Whereupon the few black Oak Park police officers
watched over his house to ensure that the white anti-gun police chief
and his anti-gun cronies wouldn't f*ck with him, his home or family.
L.V. Cipriani states that the "Any other weapon" category is allowed,
but the exact relationship between an Ithaca Auto-burgular, which I
believe is in the "Any other weapon" category and a chopped barrel
H&K HK-94 (Class 3 for sure) is not clear to me...
In your dreams, buddy. As long as Democrats reign in Chicago, Illinois
residents will always be disarmed and helpless in the streets. Politicians
get around this by provisions in the law that allow them to carry
concealed weapons. Voters in Chicago are too stupid to vote these a**holes
out of office; because the Dems are always in power, the Illinois
Supreme Court is always tilted to the Democratic Party's views on guns.
[All candidates supported by political consultant David Axelrod are
anti-gun, which explains anti-RKBA Crook County States Attorney
Jack(ass) O'Malley being a so-called "Republican."] | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
First, it will not pass a National Electrical code inspection.
Secondly, The neutral wire is current carrying and the ground wire
shouldn't be, or only during a fault condition.
The reason the neutral and ground are tied together in the panel is the
tranformer on the power pole has a grounded center-tap secondary, with the
grounded center-tap the neutral. This gives 120v to neutral(ground) from
each side of the transformer and 240v across the transformer. So in effect
the neutral and ground should be at the same potential.
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Mark E. Kilpela email mkilpela@mtu.edu
Michigan Technological University
School of Technology | 12 | sci.electronics |
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To: spacenews@austen.rand.org, cti@austen.rand.org
Subject: White House outlines options for station, Russian cooperation
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 93 16:00:21 PDT
From: Richard Buenneke <buenneke@austen.rand.org>
4/06/93: GIBBONS OUTLINES SPACE STATION REDESIGN GUIDANCE
NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C.
April 6, 1993
RELEASE: 93-64
Dr. John H. Gibbons, Director, Office of Science and Technology
Policy, outlined to the members-designate of the Advisory Committee on the
Redesign of the Space Station on April 3, three budget options as guidance
to the committee in their deliberations on the redesign of the space
station.
A low option of $5 billion, a mid-range option of $7 billion and a
high option of $9 billion will be considered by the committee. Each
option would cover the total expenditures for space station from fiscal
year 1994 through 1998 and would include funds for development,
operations, utilization, Shuttle integration, facilities, research
operations support, transition cost and also must include adequate program
reserves to insure program implementation within the available funds.
Over the next 5 years, $4 billion is reserved within the NASA
budget for the President's new technology investment. As a result,
station options above $7 billion must be accompanied by offsetting
reductions in the rest of the NASA budget. For example, a space station
option of $9 billion would require $2 billion in offsets from the NASA
budget over the next 5 years.
Gibbons presented the information at an organizational session of
the advisory committee. Generally, the members-designate focused upon
administrative topics and used the session to get acquainted. They also
received a legal and ethics briefing and an orientation on the process the
Station Redesign Team is following to develop options for the advisory
committee to consider.
Gibbons also announced that the United States and its
international partners -- the Europeans, Japanese and Canadians -- have
decided, after consultation, to give "full consideration" to use of
Russian assets in the course of the space station redesign process.
To that end, the Russians will be asked to participate in the
redesign effort on an as-needed consulting basis, so that the redesign
team can make use of their expertise in assessing the capabilities of MIR
and the possible use of MIR and other Russian capabilities and systems.
The U.S. and international partners hope to benefit from the expertise of
the Russian participants in assessing Russian systems and technology. The
overall goal of the redesign effort is to develop options for reducing
station costs while preserving key research and exploration capabilitiaes.
Careful integration of Russian assets could be a key factor in achieving
that goal.
Gibbons reiterated that, "President Clinton is committed to the
redesigned space station and to making every effort to preserve the
science, the technology and the jobs that the space station program
represents. However, he also is committed to a space station that is well
managed and one that does not consume the national resources which should
be used to invest in the future of this industry and this nation."
NASA Administrator Daniel S. Goldin said the Russian
participation will be accomplished through the East-West Space Science
Center at the University of Maryland under the leadership of Roald
Sagdeev. | 14 | sci.space |
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 13, 1993
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT,
SECRETARY OF EDUCATION RICHARD RILEY AND
SECRETARY OF LABOR ROBERT REICH IN
GOALS 2000 SATELLITE TOWN HALL MEETING
Chamber of Commerce Building
Washington, D.C.
8:30 P.M. EDT
SECRETARY RILEY: Good evening and welcome to all of you
in the thousands of communities around the country that are taking
part in this satellite town meeting for the month of April.
You know, today is April 13th. In 1743, Thomas
Jefferson was born, 250 years ago. I think that's appropriate to
mention at the beginning of this meeting because since that time he
has been, of course, a person who has been one that we've all
followed in terms of our democracy and the importance of education
here in this great country. The success of our democracy according
to Jefferson really depends upon the success of our educational
system.
His philosophy of government, his belief in the
importance of education is also very meaningful to our special guest
here this evening. Tonight we're so pleased to have with us
President Clinton. He's come over from the White House to join us in
the Chamber of Commerce studios.
Mr. President, it's good to have you. We thank you for
taking the time to visit with these communities here on the satellite
network and we welcome you here this evening.
Also we have with us Secretary of Labor Robert Reich.
And, Bob, it's certainly pleasant to have you with us this evening
also.
I have some questions for our two guests, and I'm sure
many of you do, too. So please call us if there's something that
you'd like to ask. The number is 1/800/368-5781 or 5782. In
Washington, D.C. the number is 202/463-3170 or 3171.
I believe the President has a few words that he might
want to share with us. And, Mr. President, I'll ask you to do that
at this time. It's great to have you.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.
I'm glad to be here with my friends, Dick Riley and Bob
Reich -- also members of my Cabinet -- at the headquarters of the
Chamber of Commerce to support the effort that the Chamber is making,
along with its Center for Work Force Preparation, to help to examine
tonight the whole critical question of how to move our young people
from school to the work place.
I want to compliment the Chamber on all their efforts,
recognizing that without an educated work force we can't grow this
economy or remain competitive, and recognizing that we all have to
work together -- business and government, labor and educators -- to
make things happen.
This satellite town meeting is a good example of that
kind of working together. And if you'll forgive me a little home
state pride, I want to say a special word of thanks to the Wal-Mart
Corporation, headquartered in Bentonville, Arkansas, for providing
several hundred of the sites for this town meeting tonight. I
appreciate that a lot, as well as the sites that are provided for all
the rest of you.
I have tried as hard as I could to move toward
constructive change for this country. Secretary Riley talked about
this being Thomas Jefferson's 250th birthday. If Thomas Jefferson
believed in anything, he believed in these three things: first, in
education; second, in real personal liberty, freedom of religion,
freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of the press; and
third, in the absolute imperative of changing as times change.
If you go to the Jefferson Memorial here in this
beautiful city, which is now bedecked with all of its wonderful
cherry blossoms, you will see Jefferson saying that we have to change
with changing times.
For us here in America, that means reducing our deficit
and increasing our investment and putting our people first so that we
can compete in the world. We're here to talk about that tonight --
about what we can do to educate and train our people better. Unless
we do that, none of the efforts that all the rest of us make in
government, even to bring the budget into balance, even to increase
our investment in other things which will grow jobs, will last in the
long run.
We also have to have people who can carry their load.
And in a world where the average young person will change jobs seven
or eight times in a lifetime, that begins with the education system
and continues into the work force where education must go on for a
lifetime. It's not just important what you know, but what you can
learn.
And if I might, I'd like to close just by emphasizing
we're doing our best to try to have the most innovative partnership
between the Labor Department and the Education Department and the
private sector to build a good school-to-work transition. And we're
trying to get off to a good start this summer with a program that
would create more than 700,000 new summer jobs, including many
thousands that have a strong education component so our young people
can be learning and working at the same time.
Dick, I think I ought to stop there. That's a good
place we can begin, I think, the discussion.
SECRETARY RILEY: Thank you so much, Mr. President.
Each month we get together and talk about ways that all
citizens can work towards reaching the national education goals. And
tonight, we'll focus on goal five, and how communities such as yours
can prepare students for this world of work.
This week, the Education Department and the Labor
Department are hosting a conference here in Washington, D.C. called
Summer Challenge, a program of work and learning, to America's youth.
The aim is to use some special funds from President Clinton's
proposed economic stimulus package to provide educationally-enriched
jobs and summer school programs for young people in disadvantaged
areas of the country.
Mr. President, let's talk a minute -- you alluded to it
somewhat -- about the Summer Youth Challenge. Your program calls
for more educational enrichment in the summer jobs. And why in your
words is that so important?
THE PRESIDENT: I think it's important for two reasons.
First of all, a lot of the young people we're trying to reach may
have had trouble adjusting to school and learning. And while we want
them to have a good experience with a real job, we also want them to
continue to learn during the summer because we know from a lot of
research that a lot of kids that have trouble learning in school may
forget as much as 30 percent of what they learned the previous year
over the summertime. And that is a very unproductive thing for
schools to have to take up a lot of time teaching what they already
taught before.
Secondly, we want to help these young people progress,
not only in terms of work, but in terms of learning. We want to
abolish the artificial dividing line between what is work and what is
learning because we think that the best and most productive workers
will have to be lifetime learners. And we think that this experience
could maybe drive that point home and prepare these young people to
succeed in school, or at work, or in college as they go on.
SECRETARY RILEY: Well, I think the fact that these are
disadvantaged kids -- that gap, that lag you mentioned as they go
into the next year, is really even greater.
Secretary Reich, of course, you have training programs
throughout the year. And I wonder is you have any comment about this
educational component of training.
SECRETARY REICH: Well, what we've learned, Mr.
Secretary, is that for many young people, whether it's for the summer
or for the year, actually on-the-job work experience combined with
education is one of the best ways of learning. Many young people,
for example, have a lot -- they have a difficult time learning
geometry. But when they actually are there building something or
working on something, and they can see the exact and direct
application of geometry, they understand what it's used for. And a
lot of young people -- just that sense of connection between
education and the world of work is terribly, terribly important.
It's important during the summer, but it's important for a lot of
young people even beyond the summer.
SECRETARY RILEY: Thank you.
Mr. President, you've called for a youth apprenticeship
program, school-to-work transition. And I wonder if you would tell
us a little bit about your concept of that and how you see it
developing.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, let's talk about why
it's important. Most new jobs that will be created in this decade
will not require a four-year college degree, but most of them will
require some learning and skills that go well beyond what most people
get in a high school diploma.
If you look at the last 10 years, the average salaries
of young people that had at least two years of good post-high school
education was a good salary that went up over the decade. The young
people who had less than that tended to have lower wages that did not
go up, and in many cases in real terms fell over the decade, because
they weren't productive, they weren't more valuable to their
employers.
So we think America has a big economic interest in
trying to ensure that all the young people who get out of high school
but don't go on to college make a transition to work, which includes
two years of further training either in a community college, a
vocational setting, or perhaps on the job. And what I have done in
this budget, as you know, is to give you and Secretary Reich some
funds and some incentives to try to work in partnership with states
and with the private sector to build these programs state-by-state in
a way that would be customized essentially by the business community,
based on the needs of the economy in any given area. It could
revolutionize long-term the quality of the American work force and
the earnings of American workers.
SECRETARY REICH: I should add, Mr. President -- I think
you know this from your experience in Arkansas -- and many of the
people watching this program -- that the business community and
educators, labor groups are already in many of our communities, many
of our states, building a school-to-work transition program. In
fact, there's an awful lot of ferment, a lot of excitement. The
people watching this program probably are the ones who are most
directly involved in that. And more power to them. Secretary Riley
and I are going to do everything we can to build on the successes
already out there.
SECRETARY RILEY: Bob, we're going to be talking tonight
about youth apprenticeship and tech prep, the co-op learning
career academies. And what features all those programs that deal
with this subject -- what are some of the features that every one of
these school-to-work programs might have that are important?
SECRETARY REICH: Well, one thing that we've seen -- and
you and I have been working at this for a long time, and you much
longer than I -- we've seen that active involvement of the business
community is absolutely essential. And I'm so delighted that we're
doing this in the headquarters of the Chamber of Commerce. The
Chamber of Commerce of the United States is committed to doing these
kinds of programs -- training, education, retraining -- and we've
aimed to work very closely with the Chamber.
The business community is going to be actively engaged
in developing almost an audit of the kind of jobs that are needed and
helping the educators, community colleges, technical institutions
develop curricula that are relevant for the jobs of the future.
Communities have got to come together. I mean, this is
one of the most important things. You've got to have all of these
players in a community come together and work together and cooperate
together. You know, too often we have the educators over here and
the business leaders over here, labor groups over here and everybody
is talking, but they're not really working together in a common
strategy.
And the third and final ingredient I would say, Dick,
would be a commitment to excellence -- a commitment both to academic
excellence and also to skills development excellence. This is not a
tracking program we're talking about for kids who are not going to
make it. This is a program that every young person ought to be
eligible for. If they want to go on beyond that to four-year
college, that's fine. That ought to be permissible. But we're
talking about the foundation of learning about jobs, the foundation
skills for on-the-job learning.
And again, those are the critical components. It's
already being done.
THE PRESIDENT: I think -- if I might just interject one
point based on my personal experience at home -- the business
community has a critical role to play, not simply in saying here are
the job skills that are needed and here's what ought to be taught,
but also in monitoring that excellence. If you have the right sort
of partnership there, the people who are paying the taxes and who are
going to then be hiring the workers are not going to permit the
second-rate programs to survive if they have any way to shape and
influence them. So I think that's very important.
And when we try to, if you will, fill in the blanks at
the federal level, trying to set some standards and provide some
funds, one of the things that we want to be sure and do is to make
sure that the employer has a heavy amount of influence over the
quality of these programs, because that's really what's going to
determine whether the whole thing is worthwhile.
SECRETARY RILEY: That's great. We've been talking, of
course, about school-to-work and also the jobs and economic recovery
program for this summer and fall. But let's talk just a moment about
long-term school reform. It's something especially close to me. Mr.
President, I wonder if you would give us some of your ideas for the
communities out here on Goals 2000 legislation that I think will be
coming forth before too long.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, as you know, back when you and I
were both governors, we spent a lot of time working on our public
schools and we tried to be very candid with our people in saying that
a lot of these things were going to take some time to materialize.
I had a hand in writing the National Education Goals
that the governors drafted, along with representatives of President
Bush's administration back in 1989. And what we're going to try to
do this year with your leadership is to introduce legislation in
Congress that will actually define the things that the national
government ought to do to try to help the local schools and the
children of this country and the adult learners, too, meet those
goals -- making sure that when -- by 2000, people show up for school
ready to learn; that we get a 90 percent on-time high school
graduation rate; that children at the 4th, 8th, and 12th grades are
confident in the subjects they're supposed to know; that they are
second to none in math and science; that are schools are safe,
disciplined, and drug-free. And, of course, the fifth goal --I took
them out of line to say this the last -- is that we have a system of
life-long learning in this country.
And each one of those goals there's a national role, a
state role, a school role, school district role, and a private sector
role. And what you've attempted to do in this bill you're going to
introduce with me in the next few weeks is to define what our job is;
and then to give the rest of America a way of defining what their job
is and seeing whether we're actually meeting the standards of quality
that we need to meet.
It's very exciting. So far as I know, nothing quite
like it has ever been done in the form of federal legislation before.
Not mandating and telling people what they have to do with their
money, but actually setting up a framework for excellence and
partnerships so that we can do our job. I'm really excited about it.
SECRETARY RILEY: Well, I am, too. And I think really
it will be an entirely new role for the federal government in terms
of its relationship with states, serving as a partner really to
support and facilitate and to help out in these education reform
efforts, all driven by high standards. That's the point.
Bob, let me ask you one question, and then we'll get to
the telephone calls. It's about the same subject. We have, of
course, skills standards that are going to be part of Goals 2000, and
I wonder if you would comment on that.
SECRETARY REICH: Well, you know, we have 75 percent of
our young people who don't graduate from college. Very often they
don't have very many alternatives. They do have a wonderful system
of community colleges and technical institutions, but if we had
national skill standards to which they could aspire and which
employers would understand as a national credential, many of these
young people would actually find that they were much more eligible
for jobs.
Everybody doesn't have to go to college. Other
countries you have smaller proportions of their population going to
college, but you have a whole level of people who have certain
technical, preprofessional skills. We can do it in this country. If
you don't go to four-year college you're not a loser. And we want to
develop those national skill standards. We're going to be working
with the states, with the Education Department, with a lot of private
industry in developing those standards. And I think they will be the
kinds of things that enable our vocational and technical and other
institutions to rally around, as well as our business community.
SECRETARY RILEY: Well, that's great. Why don't we go
ahead and go to the telephone. We have a call, I see -- Mayor Bruce
Todd of Austin, Texas.
Q Yes, Mr. President and Mr. Secretary Reich and
Riley, we certainly appreciate the opportunity to join you today. We
have some dedicated professionals and volunteers here in Austin who
have heard what you have said and are very appreciative. Let me
simply say, amen to some of the comments made already. We agree with
much of the tone that the Clinton administration has taken, and are
very supportive.
We have been successful here in Austin of tripling our
summer employment program over the last four years. We expect to
have over 2,000 employed this year in the summertime; perhaps as much
as 3,500 with the federal assistance.
Much of the question that we had designed you have
answered in your opening comments, so we must be thinking alike. But
the question essentially involved what initiatives after Labor Day
would be appropriate. We know summertime is important. Year-round
is even more important. And what kind of initiatives at the federal
level might be proposed to meet the needs of the youth on a year-
round basis? And perhaps more importantly, how can families and the
local community be more involved using the federal initiative? That's
something that we believe is very important to success in this
effort.
SECRETARY RILEY: Mr. President.
THE PRESIDENT: I think I'll give everybody a chance to
answer the question, Bruce, but let me first thank you for calling,
and thank you for all the great work that you're doing in Austin.
I've seen some of it and I've always been very impressed.
First, with regard to the summer program, we hope we can
structure it in a way that will enable us to continue the summer
program and that will move a lot of these young people back into
schools under circumstances that might allow them to do some work in
the private sector, too. We hope that -- Secretary Reich is going to
try to set up a system where we create a lot of private sector jobs
to be matched with the public sector jobs this summer. And we're
working on that.
Secondly, in the program that I have presented to the
Congress over the next five years, what we are attempting to do is to
build in an amount of investment that's quite substantial for job
training programs, for school-to-work programs, all of which give
heavy, heavy weight to local community input -- just the question you
asked -- but do provide some federal investment dollars, which we
hope you can put with local dollars to keep people working and being
trained on a year-round basis.
And I will say again, to echo what Secretary Reich said
a moment ago, to try to break down the barrier between what is seen
as work and what is seen as learning. An awful lot of young people
actually have quite high IQs, but actually learn so much better when
they're doing than when they're reading or just listening. So we
hope that the community involvement part of it will be permanent, and
we hope that if the whole budget passes -- and we do have 200 budget
cuts and more than 200, actually, in the budget -- and some revenue
raisers, and some new money for education and training, that we'll be
able to do just what you seem to want based on your question.
Bob, do you want to say anything?
SECRETARY REICH: Well, you took most of the words out
of my mouth, Mr. President, as usual. But let me just add one thing,
and that is that one of the most important aspects of post-high
school for a lot of young people who are not going on to college, in
addition to the school-to-work program, simply is the availability of
jobs. And we've got to get this economy moving again, obviously.
It's terribly important to get this recovery program, to get the
economy back on track. That's sort of the prerequisite to everything
else. If we don't get the economy back on track -- we have -- I
think this is the 16th -- correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. President -- I
think is the 16th month we have had seven percent unemployment or
greater. This is a jobless recovery. A lot of those kids are going
to be getting out of school in June. And even if we did everything
right, they would have a very, very hard time getting jobs.
SECRETARY RILEY: Thank you both. Of course, Goals 2000
will be a permanent, long-term thing that will certainly reach into
next year. It will involve, if passed -- and we certainly hope it
will be -- action plans with every state where we can be working
together to reach for the goals in a number of different ways. And
then the state, with all the various school districts, a very
important part of that will be citizen and parent involvement. And I
think everybody will see a great energy out there, once we get that
moving.
The next call is Dr. Harry Heinemann, New York.
Doctor?
Q Good evening, Mr. Secretary. It is a pleasure to
be on with you this evening. As you may know, bridging the school
and work has been central to La Guardia's educational program since
its inception in the 1970s, and that includes the college, the two
alternative high schools that operate on our campus, and the linkages
we have forged with the local schools. We have found this to be an
extremely effective learning strategy.
And over the years, we've come to believe that there are
several principles that are very important in bridging the school and
work. And these include integrating theory in the classroom with
practice in the workplace, with providing all students early exposure
to careers, as well as providing opportunities for them to reflect
upon these experiences while they strengthen their skills; and
lastly, the critical role of the liberal arts, particularly in the
development of high performance competencies.
My question, then is: How can the general education
faculty and the academic curriculum be more closely integrated with
transition to work experience? And what mechanisms and strategies
can you suggest to achieve this integration?
SECRETARY RILEY: Well, thank you very much. I think --
and we'll get a response from you all on that, and very interesting
work going on there. We're going to have three people, our next
guests on the program this evening, that will be some specialists
in that area that you're speaking, and I'll certainly pass that on to
them and we can discuss it later.
You all care to comment -- any comments you might have?
THE PRESIDENT: I'd just like to say, if I might, one
thing. I want to reemphasize this and I don't think I'm being as
clear about it as I'd like, although I think at least one of the
people who will be on the second panel will be able to say it more
explicitly than I. I think this whole concept of applied academics
is very important. And I think that we have to basically abolish
what I consider to be a very artificial distinction between what is
vocational learning and what is academic learning.
I think we should keep the liberal arts going. I think
we should have a strong component for people who are in the
vocational program.
SECRETARY REICH: It seems to me that we also need to
rethink our entire tracking system, because a lot of these school and
work combinations are important for mainstream students. They're
important for all students. It's not just a special group of
students that needs them.
Some of the experiments that I've seen around the United
States -- Dick, I'm sure you've seen them as well -- are mainstream
experiments. They're mainstreaming all the students. At 11th and
12th grades they're giving them a combined work and school experience
and then a transition program. And again, the kids can either go on
to college if they want; they can go on to technical community; they
can go on to an entirely -- a large variety of possibilities and
career directions.
But we have to get away from the stigmatizing that often
goes on with young people who simply are doing job-related or work-
related work within the classroom, within our schools.
SECRETARY RILEY: Thank you, very much. I think that's
going to be the last call that we have time for. Mr. President, I
think you've got to move on to another matter, and I want to thank
you and Secretary Reich for being here. We appreciate your time and
your ideas, and it's been a tremendous help to us. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
The Fluke 87 beeps at you if you try to take it out of a current measuring
range while there is still a lead plugged in to the current sense socket.
... this should solve your problem - unless you are in a noisy environment.
JohnH
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Sydney, AUSTRALIA 2109
Email: johnh@mpce.mq.edu.au, Ph: +61 2 805 8959, Fax: +61 2 805 8983
| 12 | sci.electronics |
But the interesting comparision is how fast clock-cycle chips
you can get - an Alpha is WAY slow at 66 MHz, but blazes at
200 MHz.
But the 68040 is (or will soon be) available in 40 MHz version,
making it "comparable" to a 486DX2-80
I think you have that one turned around; they have faster clock
cycles but less power behind each cycle. Not to mention that the
Intel instruction stream is BYTE-oriented (longest Intel instruction
is 15 bytes; what an odd number :-) which makes it hard to do any
intelligent memory subsystem.
Cheers,
/ h+
--
-- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe -- | 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
So does that mean that anyone who is a Christian to avoid Hell isn't really
a Christian at all? It sounds like it to me.
Mit Liebe in Christus,
Martyn R. Mellodew. (u0mrm@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Martyn R. Mellodew, | E-mail: u0mrm@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk
Department of Applied Mathematics | ARPA/Internet: u0mrm@csc.liv.ac.uk
and Theoretical Physics, | JANET: u0mrm@uk.ac.liv.csc
The University of Liverpool, |
P.O. Box 147, |
Liverpool, |
England, |
L69 9BX. | `Dubito ergo Deus est.' | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
I need help binding some value to the HOME and END keys on my keyboard. I have an
rs/6000 w/ aix3.2.3ext running X11R5pl19 mit dist. I'm using a PC running eXceed
for windows as my xterminal. The HOME and END keys do not send a value, and my
application needs them to be defined. I used this in my Xdefaults to define the
keys:
varnet*VT100.Translations: #override \
<Key>Home: string("\033[8~") \n\
<Key>End: string("\033[7~")
Then I xterm -name varnet. This works perfect, however the 7 and the 1 key on my
keypad are also defined as \033[8~ and \033[7~.
Any ideas? Help please.
Thanks.
| 5 | comp.windows.x |
i have no idea, nor do i care. however, i'd like to point out that
blomberg got the first plate appearance by a designated hitter, and
the first walk by a designated hitter. i am not sure, but i do not
think that he also got the first hit by a designated hitter. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
This may be a fairly routine request on here, but I'm looking for a fast
polygon routine to be used in a 3D game. I have one that works right now, but
its very slow. Could anyone point me to one, pref in ASM that is fairly well
documented and flexible?
Thanx,
//Lucas.
| 1 | comp.graphics |
Want to sell a 1980 MAZDA GLC for $300 or b.o. Excellent working condition. Just
passed inspection. Has a sun roof. No marks on body.
Contact soon kohli@ecs.umass.edu or (413_549-4738. | 6 | misc.forsale |
Are you certain you didn't mean to post
to alt.french.captain.borg.borg.borg?
You'd better rush home...I hear Kruschev
calling "Come to papa, jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu!" | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
In regard to Woody's post, I thought I would remind him of something in
the midst of his tirade against academia:
As a member of the generation likely to pay for the crap Reagan and his cronies started with the deficit according to the brilliant Laffer curve (NOT!) I
think we need to look with open minds upon any ideas which will allow us
to directly address the problems of the gigantic federal deficit and debt and
continue to allow our economy to expand--and I don't remember Woody and co.
complaining about academia while Laffer implemented his policy, Stockman
approved it while being fully aware the numbers not adding up, and Reagan
completing the largest con job of the century which my generation and I will now have to pay for. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
From: payne@crl.dec.com (Andrew Payne)
Message-ID: <1993Apr20.004418.11548@crl.dec.com>
Organization: DEC Cambridge Research Lab
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 00:44:18 GMT
Does anyone know if a source for the TCM3105 modem chips (as used in the
Baycom and my PMP modems)? Ideally, something that is geared toward
hobbyists: small quantity, mail order, etc.
For years, we've been buying them from a distributor (Marshall) by the
hundreds for PMP kits. But orders have dropped to the point where we can
no longer afford to offer this service. And all of the distributors I've
checked have some crazy minimum order ($100, or so).
I'd like to find a source for those still interested in building PMP kits.
Any suggestions?
--
Andrew C. Payne
DEC Cambridge Research Lab
---
. R110B:Wnet HAL_9000
| 12 | sci.electronics |
[ Article crossposted from comp.speech,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.os.linux ]
[ Author was MARIO LAURETTI ]
[ Posted on Mon, 5 Apr 1993 21:44:24 GMT ]
I Have a Sound Blaster ver 1.5
When I try to install driver ver 1.5 (driver that comes with window 3.1)
It tell me to upgrade my card first!!!????
Now, I have found new drivers from Creative labs.
But I have problems installing it:
After removing the vsbd.386 (old version that come in windows)
After installing Creative Sound Blaster - MIDI Synthesizer
I try to install Creative Sound Blaster 1.5 Wave...
But when I am in the menu: Add Unlisted or Updated Driver
and double click on this driver, I have this error:
--------------------------Driver Error---------------------------
Cannot load Creative Sound Blaster 1.5 Wave and MIDI driver. The driver file
may be missing. Try installing the driver again, or contact your system
administrator.
Yes, yes, yes, I have read the README.1st and try every thing!
can somebody help me??
Mario Laureti | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Depends on the nature of the "rounding." X allows the user to do bit
arithmetic on pixel values, (i.e., XOR foreground and backgroun pixel
values together to calculate a foreground color that when used with a
function of GXxor fill change foreground to background and vice-versa).
If your rounding does not preserve these types of calculations then
clients that use them will break.
Ken | 5 | comp.windows.x |
So, if I were to assert that there are no thousand year old
invisible pink unicorns* residing in my walls, I need to support this with
evidence? I think the _lack_ of evidence shall suffice.
* Who happen to like listening to satanic messages found in playing
Beethoven's 45th symphony backwards.
---
"FBI officials said cult leader David Koresh may have
forced followers to remain as flames closed in. Koresh's
armed guard may have injected as many as 24 children with
poison to quiet them."
-
"And God saw everything he had made, and, behold, in was very
good." | 19 | talk.religion.misc |
These circuits abound in most electronic project books. If you're more
inclined to buy something, try Radio Shack. I think they still have a
device that is designed to disconnect an answering machine when an
extension line is lifted. It has LED indicators also. | 12 | sci.electronics |
10 | rec.sport.hockey |
|
Israel - Happy 45th Birthday! | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
Sure you can have everything, if by "everything" you mean fast straight line
performance AND handling - present day liter sport bikes have more horsepower
and have faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile times than the V-max... Plus, they corner
just a bit better...
Very true.
Randy Davis Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot {uunet!ucsd}!megatek!randy
DoD #0013 | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
I can not believe the way this thread on candida(yeast) has progressed.
Steve Dyer and I have been exchanging words over the same topic in Sci.
Med. Nutrition when he displayed his typical reserve and attacked a women
poster for being treated by a liscenced physician for a disease that did
not exist. Calling this physician a quack was reprehensible Steve and I
see that you and some of the others are doing it here as well.
Let me tell you who the quacks really are, these are the physicans who have
no idea how the human body interacts with it's environment and how that
balance can be altered by diet and antibiotics. These are the physicians
who dismiss their patients with difficult symptomatology and make them go
from doctor to doctor to find relief(like Elaine in Sci. Med. Nutrition) and
then when they find one that solves their problem, the rest start yelling
quack. Could it just be professional jealousy? I couldn't help Elaine or Jon
but somebody else did. Could they know more than Me? No way, they must be a
quack.
I've been teaching a human nutrition course for Medical students for over ten
years now and guess who the most receptive students are? Those that were
raised on farms and saw first-hand the effect of diet on the health of their
farm animals and those students who had made a dramatic diet change prior to
entering medical school(switched to the vegan diet). Typically, this is
about 1/3 of my class of 90 students. Those not interested in nutrition
either tune me out or just stop coming to class. That's okay because I
know that some of what I'm teaching is going to stick and there will be at
least a few "enlightened" physicians practicing in the U.S. It's really
too bad that most U.S. medical schools don't cover nutrition because if
they did, candida would not be viewed as a non-disease by so many in the
medical profession.
In animal husbandry, an animal is reinnoculated with "good" bacteria after
antibiotics are stopped. Medicine has decided that since humans do not
have a ruminant stomach, no such reinnoculation with "good" bacteria is
needed after coming off a braod spectrum antibiotic. Humans have all
kinds of different organisms living in the GI system(mouth, stomach, small
and large intestine), sinuses, vagina and on the skin. These are
nonpathogenic because they do not cause disease in people unless the immune
system is compromised. They are also called nonpathogens because unlike
the pathogenic organisms that cause human disease, they do not produce
toxins as they live out their merry existence in and on our body. But any of
these organisms will be considered pathogenic if it manages to take up
residence within the body. A poor mucus membrane barrier can let this
happen and vitamin A is mainly responsible for setting up this barrier.
Steve got real upset with Elaine's doctor because he was using anti-fungals
and vitamin A for her GI problems. If Steve really understoood what
vitamin A does in the body, he would not(or at least should not) be calling
Elaine's doctor a quack.
Here is a brief primer on yeast. Yeast infections, as they are commonly
called, are not truely caused by yeasts. The most common organism responsible
for this type of infection is Candida albicans or Monilia which is actually a
yeast-like fungus. An infection caused by this organism is called candidiasis.
Candidiasis is a very rare occurance because, like an E. Coli infection, it
requires that the host immune system be severly depressed.
Candida is frequently found on the skin and all of the mucous membranes of
normal healthy people and it rarely becomes a problem unless some predisposing
factor is present such as a high blood glucose level(diabetes) or an oral
course of antibiotics has been used. In diabetics, their secretions contain
much higher amounts of glucose. Candida, unlike bacteria, is very limited in
it's food(fuel) selection. Without glucose, it can not grow, it just barely
survives. If it gets access to a lot of glucose, it blooms and over rides
the other organisms living with it in the sinuses, GI tract or vagina. In
diabetics, skin lesions can also foster a good bloom site for these little
buggers. The bloom is usually just a minor irritant in most people but
some people do really develop a bad inflammatory process at the mucus
membrane or skin bloom site. Whether this is an allergic like reaction to
the candida or not isn't certain. When the bloom is in the vagina or on
the skin, it can be easliy seen and some doctors do then try to "treat" it.
If it's internal, only symptoms can be used and these symptoms are pretty
nondiscript.
Candida is kept in check in most people by the normal bacterial flora in
the sinuses, the GI tract(mouth, stomach and intestines) and in the
vaginal tract which compete with it for food. The human immune system
ususally does not bother itself with these(nonpathogenic organisms) unless
they broach the mucus membrane "barrier". If they do, an inflammatory
response will be set up. Most Americans are not getting enough vitamin A
from their diets. About 30% of all American's die with less Vitamin A than
they were born with(U.S. autopsy studies). While this low level of vitamin
A does not cause pathology(blindness) it does impair the mucus membrane
barrier system. This would then be a predisposing factor for a strong
inflammatory response after a candida bloom.
While diabetics can suffer from a candida "bloom" the most common cause of
this type of bloom is the use of broad spectrum antibiotics which
knock down many different kinds of bacteria in the body and remove the main
competition for candida as far as food is concerned. While drugs are
available to handle candida, many patients find that their doctor will not
use them unless there is evidence of a systemic infection. The toxicity of
the anti-fungal drugs does warrant some caution. But if the GI or sinus
inflammation is suspected to be candida(and recent use of a broad spectrum
antibiotic is the smoking gun), then anti-fungal use should be approrpriate
just as the anti-fungal creams are an appropriate treatment for recurring
vaginal yeast infections, in spite of what Mr. Steve Dyer says.
But even in patients being given the anti-fungals, the irritation caused by
the excessive candida bloom in the sinus, GI tract or the vagina tends to
return after drug treatment is discontinued unless the underlying cause of
the problem is addressed(lack of a "good" bacterial flora in the body and/or
poor mucus membrane barrier). Lactobacillus acidophilus is the most effective
therapy for candida overgrowth. From it's name, it is an acid loving
organism and it sets up an acidic condition were it grows. Candida can not
grow very well in an acidic environment. In the vagina, L. acidophilius is
the predominate bacteria(unless you are hit with broad spectrum
antibiotics).
In the GI system, the ano-rectal region seems to be a particularly good
reservoir for candida and the use of pantyhose by many women creates a very
favorable environment around the rectum for transfer(through moisture and
humidity) of candida to the vaginal tract. One of the most effctive ways to
minimmize this transfer is to wear undyed cotton underwear.
If the bloom occurs in the anal area, the burning, swelling, pain and even
blood discharge make many patients think that they have hemorroids. If the
bloom manages to move further up the GI tract, very diffuse symptomatology
occurs(abdominal discomfort and blood in the stool). This positive stool
for occult blood is what sent Elaine to her family doctor in the first
place. After extensive testing, he told her that there was nothing wrong
but her gut still hurt. On to another doctor, and so on. Richard Kaplan
has told me throiugh e-mail that he considers occult blood tests in stool
specimens to be a waste of time and money because of the very large number of
false positives(candida blooms guys?). If my gut hurt me on a constant
basis, I would want it fixed. Yes it's nice to know that I don't have
colon cancer but what then is causing my distress? When I finally find a
doctor who treats me and gets me 90% better, Steve Dyer calls him a quack.
Candida prefers a slightly alkaline environment while bacteria
tend to prefer a slightly acidic environment. The vagina becomes alkaline
during a woman's period and this is often when candida blooms in the vagina.
Vinegar and water douches are the best way of dealing with vaginal
problems. Many women have also gotten relief from the introduction of
Lactobacillus directly into the vaginal tract(I would want to be sure of
the purity of the product before trying this). My wife had this vagina
problem after going on birth control pills and searched for over a year
until she found a gynocologist who solved the problem rather than just writting
scripts for anti-fungal creams. This was a woman gynocologist who had had
the same problem(recurring vaginal yeast infections). This M.D. did some
digging and came up with an acetic acid and L. Acidophilis douche which she
used in your office to keep it sterile. After three treatments, sex
returned to our marraige. I have often wondered what an M.D. with chronic
GI distress or sinus problems would do about the problem that he tells his
patients is a non-existent syndrome.
The nonpathogenic bacteria L. acidophilus is an acid producing bacteria
which is the most common bacteria found in the vaginal tract of healthy women.
If taken orally, it can also become a major bacteria in the gut. Through
aresol sprays, it has also been used to innoculate the sinus membranes.
But before this innoculation occurs, the mucus membrane barrier system
needs to be strengthened. This is accomplished by vitamin A, vitamin C and
some of the B-complex vitamins. Diet surveys repeatedly show that Americans
are not getting enough B6 and folate. These are probably the segement of
the population that will have the greatest problem with this non-existent
disorder(candida blooms after antibiotic therapy).
Some of the above material was obtained from "Natural Healing" by Mark
Bricklin, Published by Rodale press, as well as notes from my human
nutrition course. I will be posting a discussion of vitamin A sometime in
the future, along with reference citings to point out the extremely
important role that vitamin A plays in the mucus membrane defense system in
the body and why vitamin A should be effective in dealing with candida
blooms. Another effective dietary treatment is to restrict carbohydrate
intake during the treatment phase, this is especially important if the GI
system is involved. If candida can not get glucose, it's not going to out
grow the bacteria and you then give bacteria, which can use amino acids and
fatty acids for energy, a chance to take over and keep the candida in check
once carbohydrate is returned to the gut.
If Steve and some of the other nay-sayers want to jump all over this post,
fine. I jumped all over Steve in Sci. Med. Nutrition because he verbably
accosted a poster who was seeking advice about her doctor's use of vitamin
A and anti-fungals for a candida bloom in her gut. People seeking advice
from newsnet should not be treated this way. Those of us giving of our
time and knowledge can slug it out to our heart's content. If you saved
your venom for me Steve and left the helpless posters who are timidly
seeking help alone, I wouldn't have a problem with your behavior.
Martin Banschbach, Ph.D.
Professor of Biochemistry and Chairman
Department of Biochemistry and Microbiology
OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
1111 West 17th St.
Tulsa, Ok. 74107 | 13 | sci.med |
: Regardless of people's hidden motivations, the stated reasons for many
: wars include religion. Of course you can always claim that the REAL
: reason was economics, politics, ethnic strife, or whatever. But the
: fact remains that the justification for many wars has been to conquer
: the heathens.
: If you want to say, for instance, that economics was the chief cause
: of the Crusades, you could certainly make that point. But someone
: could come along and demonstrate that it was REALLY something else, in
: the same manner you show that it was REALLY not religion. You could
: in this manner eliminate all possible causes for the Crusades.
:
Scott,
I don't have to make outrageous claims about religion's affecting and
effecting history, for the purpsoe of a.a, all I have to do point out
that many claims made here are wrong and do nothing to validate
atheism. At no time have I made any statement that religion was the
sole cause of anything, what I have done is point out that those who
do make that kind of claim are mistaken, usually deliberately.
To credit religion with the awesome power to dominate history is to
misunderstand human nature, the function of religion and of course,
history. I believe that those who distort history in this way know
exaclty what they're doing, and do it only for affect. | 0 | alt.atheism |
From article <1993Apr17.010256.14372@eafs000.ca.boeing.com>, by ten0772@eafs000.ca.boeing.com (Timothy E. Neto):
This all sounds suspiciously like my company might have something to
do with this.
Background first: Megatek has a series of framebuffers designed as
X accelerators. For the most part these are designed for Sun SBUS
and Sun (and other vendor's) VME systems.
That said, Megatek products support multi-screen and/or multi-display
on a sigle workstation. Most of our cards have a keyboard/mouse port
which can be used to provide additional displays. For example, say
you hade a Sparcstation with an Sbus expansion chassis. You could
put in six frambuffers, allowing a total of six screens in the system.
You could then attach from 1 to 6 keyboard/mice, allowing you to
mix and match any combination of screens and displays. You could
have 1 6-screen display, 3 2-screen displays, 6 1-screen displays,
or 1 2-screen display and 1 4-screen display. Basically any
combination.
Because of this, we at Megatek try to be very careful about the use
of the words multi-screen and multi-display. They are quite different
in meaning, and (at least in X) have exact definitions.
The reason I ramble like this is the mention of an upper limit if 12
screens in a display. As it so happens, there's a define in the server
that determines the most screens supported (server/include/misc.h,
MAXSCREENS). As released my MIT, this is 3. As released by Megatek,
this is 12.
As such, the most screens supported by a single Megatek display (i.e.
X server) is 12. If someone construed this to be a limitation of X
I'm sorry, but clearly (as pointed out so well by Mr. Neto) this is
not the case.
We just did it here because nobody has ever asked us for more. Of
course, I could say "Buy all you want, we'll support more."
-- | 5 | comp.windows.x |
Woops! This is rec.sport.hockey! Not rec.sport.golf! Hope you check the
newsgroup header next time before posting!
Steve
| 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
"Bare" means what it says. You get a case, a power supply, and a motherboard
(with RAM and a coprocessor). *Everything* else is yours to add as you like.
The case/power supply:
- Standard desktop case. 230watt power supply with the usual connectors.
- Room for five floppy/hard drives (three visible, two internal).
The motherboard:
- US-made Micronics 8-slot motherboard with Intel 386dx/25mhz CPU
- 64kb SRAM cache
- 4mb 80us RAM using 4x1mb simms (worth $150 alone)
- Cyrix 83D87 math coprocessor (worth $90 alone)
- Norton SI 6.0 rating of 26.1
- Latest version Phoenix BIOS
Please do not post/email saying "but I can get a Taiwanese SuperClone
386/90 for only $9.95 including a free toaster!". I am *certain* you can
find a cheaper Brand X board without even breaking a sweat. *New* Micronics
CPUs command a several-hundred dollar premium because they are US-made,
use high-quality components, and are known to be both very reliable and
compatible. They have been OEMed in systems sold by both Gateway and
Zeos at various points in the past. (Check out the ads in the back pages
of Byte or PC Magazine if you want to see this price differential for
yourself.)
Price: $495 complete, $100 less if you don't want/need the case and
power supply. The board is fully guaranteed. Email for further details
or for any questions.
Thanks! | 6 | misc.forsale |
Hi guys,
I've been hearing lots of talk on the net about DC-X and DC-Y,
but none of the many posts actually explain what they are !!! Sorry if
this is a FAQ, but would somebody please explain to me what they are.
Reply by Email please . . . thanks.
Andy
ajjb@adam4.bnsc.rl.ac.uk
-- | 14 | sci.space |
There are also a couple or three places on West 45th between Fifth and
Sixth.
Harvey
-- | 12 | sci.electronics |
Hear, hear! Thanks, Robbie.
You also don't read that much about violence *against* teenagers, such as
George Bush burying alive tens of thousands of unarmed Iraqi 17-year-olds,
who were trying to surrender, with bulldozers.
| 7 | rec.autos |
}
}> Drugs are banned, please tell me when this supply will dry up?
}
}Drugs are easier to manufacture, easier to smuggle, easier to hide.
}
}No comparison.
You, sir, are an ignorant fool who knows nothing about either the drug
business or the gun business.
Tim Starr - Renaissance Now!
Assistant Editor: Freedom Network News, the newsletter of ISIL,
The International Society for Individual Liberty,
1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102
(415) 864-0952; FAX: (415) 864-7506; 71034.2711@compuserve.com | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
I sold a bike via the net to a young lady who lived in Salt Lake City. I
live near Lost Angeles. It turned out we had mutual aquaintances at UCLA
as well.
| 8 | rec.motorcycles |
I made a mistake on the posted article [been fighting food
poisoning for last 24 hours...]
The second paragraph should state the following...
"Doctors cleared Sandberg to swing a padded bat at a ball
on a tee and to catch a ball in his gloved hand."
Sorry for the error, didn't know it until after posting. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
[ Article crossposted from temple.forsale ]
[ Author was Ray Lauff (ray@astro.ocis.temple.edu) ]
[ Posted on Wed, 21 Apr 1993 01:04:27 GMT ]
Regular CBS/FOX release of the wide screen edition of the movie
The Abyss for sale, asking $30, including postage. I want to
purchase the new director's cut and would like to unload this
LaserDisc if possible.
Two discs, unopened, 132 minutes, letterbox.
Email me if interested.
ray@astro.ocis.temple.edu
Ray
--
Ray Lauff | Temple University Computer Services | ray_lauff@astro.temple.edu
| 6 | misc.forsale |
I also had a simular problem with by NEC P7, it went away when I turned
on the "print directly to parallel port" option in the printer setup
apallette.
--
Mencsh tract und Gott lacht | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I am looking for the exact address of the Symantec Coporatoin, which
distributes Norton Desktop and other Windows software.
The information I am looking for is:
Mail address
Phone number
Fax number
E-mail address
Thanks in advance.
| 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
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}>2.If Guns were banned, and a bunch showed up in south florida, it
}>would be 100x easier to trace and notice then a small ripple in the
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} Do they teach courses in rude in Canada?
They don't have too. Canadian culture is handed down largely from the United
Empire Loyalists who fled from the American Revolution. Canuckleheads tend
to have a "cratophilic," or government-loving attitude towards authority.
Paul Prescod is right in line with this elitist bigotry and prejudice that
all my Canadian friends hate in their fellow citizens. His sort of snobbish
Canuck have an irrational horror of American democratic "armed mobs."
Tim Starr - Renaissance Now!
Assistant Editor: Freedom Network News, the newsletter of ISIL,
The International Society for Individual Liberty,
1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102
(415) 864-0952; FAX: (415) 864-7506; 71034.2711@compuserve.com | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
Actually, fired-coach George Kingston was a third of the GM
triumvirate. Now that the trio is now duo (Dean Lombardi and Chuck
Grillo), the Sharks are already on their 3rd "office of the GM". And a
4th is likely to happen before September; they'll either add the new
coach to the OofGM, or name a single GM. So your wager should be
amended to read that Sharks are likely to have their 5th GM before the
Panther's get their 2nd. Can't wait to see how the next season's NHL
Guide and Record Book lists the GM history of the Sharks.
Given the depth of next year's draft, the expansion draft rules, and
the reputation of their GMs, Anaheim and Miami look pretty good as the
first 90s expansion teams to win a Cup. San Jose and Ottawa have
instability at the GM position, something that Philly, NYI, Edmonton,
and Calgary did not have when they won their first Cups. Pittsburgh
did, but they needed a quarter century. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
Please note that there are some radiosity packages in my Resource Listing
(under the Subject 3: FTP list)
Greetings,
Nick.
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HOME: 16 Esperidon St., InterNet : nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr
Halandri, GR - 152 32 UUCP: mcsun!ariadne!theseas!nfotis
Athens, GREECE FAX: (+30 1) 77 84 578
USENET Editor of comp.graphics Resource Listing and soc.culture.greece FAQ
NTUA/UA ACM Student Chapter Chair - we're organizing a small conference
in Comp. Graphics, call if you're interested to participate. | 1 | comp.graphics |
4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
|
While I didn't try the expansion personally, I know of at least two
other people who did and got the same results. Your allegation is
incorrect at best. | 11 | sci.crypt |
The Adaptec 1540-series use bus mastering. This means that the CPU
doesn't sit waiting for data bytes, it can go off and do other
computing - if you have an advanced multi-tasking OS, that is. DOS
just sits and waits anyway.
Why don't you start with the spec-sheet of the ISA bus first? :-) IDE
was designed to plug into ISA virtually unaided - in essence, IDE *is*
ISA, on a ribbon cable. Therefore it's specs are the same as ISA -
8MHz clock, 16 bit width, 5MB/sec.
This is why I've concluded that IDE on VL-bus is a waste of a fast
slot. The card's job would to slow the VL-bus transactions to ISA
speed. Heck, that's what ISA slots do - I'll just use one of those
instead. | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
I have a set of four 235-60-R14 Big O tires that I had on my 1988 Thunder
Bird. We bought them and then traided the car in. They would not give me
anything for them so I had them taken off. We drove about 2,000 miles on
them. They are 40,000 mile tires. They are sporty looking low-profile, and
take corners realy well. If you are interested please contact me at (208)384-
9236 OR DUSMADSO@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU I am in IDAHO. USA
| 6 | misc.forsale |
Hey, sounds great. Does that mean that W4WG works with ODI? I thought it
uses NDIS.
My problem is that Lan Workplace with all its drivers uses up most of my
UMBs, so I'd hate to have to load many more drivers to make W4WG work
along.
I read in a German computer magazine that TCP/IP support for W4WG is just
around the corner. Anybody have any news about this?
Regards, Richard
PS: I possibly caused a dupe with this message. If this message was spread
twice outside of Munich, please send me a short note. It would help
me debug my news application.
| 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
MITSBISHI Laptop (MP 286L)
-286/12 (12,8,6 MHz switchable)
-2M RAM installed
-Backlit CGA (Ext. CGA, MGA)
-20M 3.5"HH HDD/1.44M 3.5" FDD
-2 COM/1 LPT ports
-complete manual set
-Built like a tank
-Excellent cosmetic cond.
-dark gray
-used very lightly
Problems:
(1)HDD stops working.
(2)LCD sometimes doesn't work (ext. CAG/MGA works). | 6 | misc.forsale |
'SDPA.ORG' criminals/Nazis in action. Your fascist government got away with
the genocide of 2.5 million Turkish men, women and children and is enjoying
the fruits of that genocide. And your criminal organization will not get away
with the genocide's cover-up. In June 1915, a major uprising took place in
Sebinkarahisar under the leadership of the famous Nazi Boyadjian. The Moslem
districts were burnt down. Hundreds of soldiers and gendarmerie were killed
and hundreds of civilians also perished.
Armenians first of all occupied the Talori region, which included
the villages of Siner, Simai, Gulli-Guzat, Ahi, Hedenk, Sinank,
Ekind, Effard, Musson, Etek, Akcesser. Leaving their wives,
children and property in these inaccessible spots, the Armenians
joined forces with other armed bands coming from the Silvan
districts in the plain of Mus, after which the whole body of
3000 men gathered in the Andok Mt. Five or six hundred wished
to surround Mus, and started off by attacking the Delican tribe to
the south of the city. They slaughtered a number of the tribe and
seized their goods. The religious beliefs of the Muslims who fell
into their hands were derided and disparaged, and the Muslims
themselves murdered in the most frightful manner. The rebels
also attacked the regular troops in the vicinity of Mus, but the
large numbers of the regular forces prevented them from
occupying the city.
The rebels joined the bandits in the Andok Mts., carrying out
the most frightful massacres and looting among the tribes of the
neighbourhood. They burned Omer Agha's nephew alive. They
raped a number of Turkish women at a spot three or four hours'
distance from Gulli-Guzat and then strangled them.
At the beginning of August the rebels attacked the Faninar,
Bekiran and Badikan tribes, perpetrating equally horrible
atrocities. The rebels in the villages of Yermut and Ealigernuk in
the nahiye of Cinan in the kaza of Cal attacked the Kurds in the
neighbourhood, as well as the villages of Kaisser and Catcat.
Towards the end of August, the Armenians attacked the
Kurds in the vicinity of Mus and burned down three or four
villages, including Gulli-Guzat. As for the 3000 rebels in Talori,
they continued to spread death and destruction among the
Muslims and other Christian communities, refusing to lay down
their arms.
Source: Uras, Esat: The Armenians in History. Documentary Publications
(Istanbul), 1988.
p. 954.
"In his speech given at the Sivas Congress, Mustafa Kemal once again drew
a picture of the country under occupation:
In the East, the Armenians are making preparations for advancing to the
River Halys (Kizilirmak), and have already started a policy of massacring
the Moslem population."
pp. 966-967.
"The situation of the southern provinces of Turkey after the signing of the
Mudros Armistice is described by Ataturk in his speech:
The Armenians in the south, armed by foreign troops and encouraged by the
protection they enjoyed, molested the Mohammedans of their district. They
pursued a relentless policy of murder and extinction everywhere. This was
responsible for the tragic incident at Maras....the Armenians had completely
destroyed an old Mohammedan town like Maras by their artillery and
machine-gun fire.
They killed thousands of innocent and defenceless women and children. The
Armenians were the instigators of the atrocities, which were unique in
history.
Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
"Document No: 15," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 113, Drawer
No: 3, File No: 520, Section No: 2024, Contents No: 11-1; 11-3.
(19 Feb 330 '4 March 1915', District Governor Kemal)
"List of male inhabitants of Mergehu Village murdered or annihilated
with the utmost savagery by Armenians:
Names Method of Annihilation
----- ----------------------
Haci Ibrahim, son of Abdi Bullets and bayonet
Abdi, son of Haci Ibrahim Bullets and bayonet
Reso, son of Abdi Beaten and cut into pieces
Sado, son of Omer Beaten and cut into pieces
Aso, son of Reso Beaten and cut into pieces
Kulu, son of Canko Stabbed in the eye with a bayonet
Musa, son of Canko Bayonet in his eye
Emin, son of Molla Hamit Bayonet in his eye
Molla Abdullah, son of Hamit Bayonet in his eye
Ibo, son of Haci Bayonet in his eye
Sado, son of Haci Bayonet in his eye
Abdullah, son of Canko Slaughtered
Ibo, son of Ahmet Abdomen ripped open
Ismail, son of Ibo Burnt in fire
Musto, son of Ozu Bullets
Mahmut, son of Seyyo Slaughtered
Kocak, son of Birro Bullets
Musto, son of Husnu Bullets
Uso, son of Alo Bullets
Maksut, son of Peri Bullets
Haci, son of Peri Bullets
Mehmet, son of Hasanali Bayonet
Ibo, son of Hasanali Bayonet
Abdo, son of Mehmed Bayonet
Molla Suleyman Burnt in oven
Mazgi, son of Abdullah Stabbed in abdomen by bayonet
Sulis, son of Hasan Bullets
Mahmo, son of Mehmet Stabbed with a dagger
Murat, son of Hasan Stabbed with a dagger
Uso, son of Avci Blinded with a bayonet
Lesko, son of Mehmet Stabbed with a dagger
Abdullah, son of Kasim Bullets
Coban Abdullah Bullets
Seymo, son of Mumin Bullets
Muammer, son of Reso Bullets
Paso, son of Merzi Bullets
Gulu, son of Bitor Bullets
Murat, son of Yusuf Bullets and bayonet
Cedo, son of Haci Ibrahim Bullets and bayonet
Faki Mehmet Bullets and bayonet
Silo, son of Abdulcebbar Bullets and bayonet
List of massacred females from the same village:
Kasi, daughter of Huso and
wife of Haci Ibrahim Bullets
Fati, daughter of Isa,
wife of Aduz Bullets
Zeresan, daughter of Amat,
wife of Reso Bayonet
Gullu, daughter of Iyso Cutting off her breasts
Sulnu, daughter of Sulo, Ripping open her abdomen and burning
wife of Ibo her baby in oven
Fatma, daughter of Ibo Slaughtered and burnt in oven
Fidan hatun Burnt in oven
Gulfizar, daughter of Hacihan,
wife of Musto Slaughtered
Rahime, daughter of Mehmet,
wife of Halil Bullets
Binefs, daughter of Haci Kerim,
wife of Suleyman Burnt in oven
Mahiye, daughter of Ali,
wife of Sivno Slaughtered
Hati, daughter of Haci,
wife of Ahmet Slaughtered
Hacer, daughter of Meho Bullet and bayonet
List of Females of the same village raped and murdered:
Nadire, daughter of Haci, wife of Suvis
Hani, daughter of Kulu, wife of Zerko
Zaliha, daughter of Telli, wife of Silo
Arap, daughter of Sami, wife of Hilo
Wounded males and females of the same village:
(a long list)
List of massacred males and females at Istuci village:
Mikail, son of Alo Bullets
Musto, son of Ismail Bullets
Dervis, son of Maksut Bullets
Ali, son of Nimet Bayonet
Esat, son of Kelo Bayonet and bullets
Isa, son of Nebi Bayonet and bullets
Cevher, son of Gani Beaten by rifle butt
Ziro, daughter of Hasan Died from injuries
Hazal, daughter of Ali,
wife of Acem Died from injuries
Hamsa, daughter of Huseyin,
wife of Huseyin Died from injuries
List of raped women at Istuci village in life:
Sabo, daughter of Maho Virgin
Miri, other daughter of Maho Virgin
Emine, daughter of Meho, wife
of Sofi Salih
Sahap, daughter of Ali, wife
of Nevruz
Gullu, daughter of Mahi Virgin
List of persons attacked by Armenian gangs:
(a long list)"
Serdar Argic | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
I have a Sparc[12] with a german type 4 keyboard.
Has anybody a Patch for X11R5?
Thanks in advance | 5 | comp.windows.x |
Is there a fast 'n dirty way to kill the line spiking that occurs when
an inductive load is turned on sometime other than at zero-crossing of
the AC cycle? A capacitor kludged in somehow, etc?
I've got a microcontroller that is running a bunch of valves and pumps
in a big instrument washer, and almost everything is being switched with
zero-crossing solid state relays, so that stuff stays "quiet", AC-wise.
But there's one steam valve that gets turned on by a mechanical relay
in the water tank fill/thermostat system, and it's not under control
of my SSRs, and it does sometimes generate/radiate a spike that resets
one of my peripheral chips. My software times out and tries again, but
I'd love to just tack in a magic spike-killing fix that would avoid having
to do some major rewiring/redesign. A varistor would help but might not
be sufficient. Ideas?
| 12 | sci.electronics |
[chop]
Could you please post it to the net too please, as I, and I'm sure many others
would like to know. Thanks!
Kev.
| 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
The South Florida Colons.
:)
| 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
[purile babble deleted]
Well, some form of guaranteed health care isn't a bad idea, but,
yah, I'm a bit worried of a gubnint-run HMO myself. I'd much
rather have something like Canada has [and I'll *belt* anyone
who tells me to move to Canada :)], but since people will yell
and scream "NO!!! NOT ONE LIKE CANADA HAS!!!", we're
probably all screwed.
Impressive.
Let the "GREAT CHUCKMEISTER" make a couple predictions, if you
will:
1. The sun will rise tomorrow.
2. Rush will bash Clinton on his next show.
3. I will turn out to be Clinton's love child.
Chances are, I'll get at least one of those right, if I'm lucky.
I may even get two.
Can't argue with you there. Once the gubnint has its hands in yer
pocket, they just can't help but feel around a bit....
Oh, no SH**?! You mean, our weakened economy will collapse in
the face of all this gubnint tax-and-spending, and everyone will
be in the handout line? You're a GENIUS!!
Deficit reduction. Spending cuts via fee increases?
No, any first-year PoliSci major will tell you that the Prez
*never* raises taxes. Congress does it.
All those who voted the Clinton ticket get to wear this *new*
label.....
+----------------+
+----------------+
Hook, line, and sinker! *chuckle*
cpk
--
It's been 80 days. Do you know where your wallet is? | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
People have been encrypting notes in their notebooks for hundreds of years
-- maybe over a thousand. It's a long tradition dating at least back to
the alchemists.
I know of nothing bad happening to them. I would assume that nothing bad
would happen to you, given this long history establishing encryption as
the property of individuals, to do with as they please.
| 11 | sci.crypt |
rubberized undercoating for this.
--
Von Welch (vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu) NCSA Networking Development Group
'93 CBR600F2 '78 KZ650 '83 Subaru GL 4WD | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
Just wondering, do you mean the "Lectorium Rosicrucianum"?
Warning: There is no point in arguing who's "legit" and who's not. *WHICH*
Golden Dawn are you talking about?
Just for the sake of argument, (reflecting NO affiliation)
I am going to say that the TRUE Rosicrucian Order is the Fraternitas
Rosae Crucis in Quakertown, Penn.,
Any takers? :-)
Fraternally, | 19 | talk.religion.misc |
I don't believe in the "Wave Theory".
My mother-in-law, who grew up in Germany, doesn't believe in
money at all. She started out as a real estate developer, and now raises
horses. She keeps telling me that inflation is coming back, and to lock
in my fixed rate mortgage as low as possible.
Maybe you'd like to invest in some foreign currency.
Which one would you guess to come out on top ?
(Sigh - speculators never learn.)
Bill R.
-- | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
Ted Frank's list of underpaid players was this:
What do all of these players have in common? They do not qualify for
arbitration. They were never free agents.
It's called the reserve clause. Look it up.
And a year from now we will whine about how several of these guys are way
overpaid and getting outrageous raises in arb. Humbug. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
Ron Roth recommends: "Once you have your hypoglycemia CONFIRMED through the
proper channels, you might consider ther following:..."
[diet omitted]
1) Ron...what do YOU consider to be "proper channels"...this sounds suspiciously
like a blood chemistry...glucose tolerance and the like...suddenly chemistry
exists? You know perfectly well that this person can be saved needless trouble
and expense with simple muscle testing and hair analysis to diagnose...no
"CONFIRM" any aberrant physiology...but then again...maybe that's what you meantby "proper channels."
2) Were you able to understand Dick King's post that "90% of diseases is not thesame thing as 90% of patients" which was a reply to your inability to critically
evaluate the statistic you cited from the New England Journal of Medicine. Couldyou figure out what is implied by the remark "Of course MDs are ethically bound to not knowingly dispense placebos..."?
3) Ron...have you ever thought about why you never post in misc.health.alterna-
tive...and insist instead upon insinuating your untrained, non-medical, often
delusional notions of health and disease into this forum? I suspect from your
apparent anger toward MDs and heteropathic medicine that there may be an
underlying 'father problem'...of course I can CONFIRM this by surrogate muscle
testing one of my patients while they ponder my theory to see if one of their
previously weak 'indicator' muscles strengthens...or do you have reservations
about my unique methods of diagnosis? Oh..I forgot what you said in an earlier
post.."neither am I concerned of whether or not my study designs meet your or
anyone else's criteria of acceptance."
John Badanes, DC, CA
romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu
| 13 | sci.med |
You are brain damaged. That hate of++0B1FATransfer cancelledf yours courses
through your sick body like poison. It's just a matter of time. Your fate
is sealed. | 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
FOR SALE
CANON EOS ELAN OUTFIT
INCLUDED
-EOS elan body
-28-80 mm EF 1:3.5-5.6 USM lens
-100-300 mm EF 1:4.%-5.6 USM lens
-2 B&W UV filters
-Hoya circular polarising filter
-Canon RC-1 remote controller
-Pentax lens cloth
-Lowe Pro camera bag
-Galen Rowell Photoflex lens bag
-Sapre lithium battery
-Hove Foto bokk user guide to Canon EOS elan
All as new condition
The whole lot $800 (firm)
Contact David 617-227-7326
617-956-6905
| 6 | misc.forsale |
Is anyone out there running a MS-DOS system with a LocalTalk board? I am on an
Appletalk network, hooked up with a DayStar Digital LT200 MC LocalTalk
Interface Board, running on a PS/2 Model 70. I'm using the AppleShare PC
software for file server and network access. It works fine under DOS or the
Window or OS/2 DOS box. But when I try to load it *before* Windows, so that
every application I run could get access to it, the machine crashes hard as
soon as I start up an application. And of course, things look pretty hopeless
for OS/2 (but who knows).
So, does anyone have experience with this bizarre and obsolete setup? | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
What can you expect from a buffoon who said that the Pens should have
drafted Kirk Muller instead of Mario Lemieux?
Perhaps once upon a time Don Cherry had some insight into the game of
hockey, but he's really degenerated into a parody of himself. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
Time once again to clean out the ol' closet. Some stuff is up for offers, some
isn't. Please read carefully.
In the MAKE OFFER department:
WordPerfect 5.0, upgrade copy. Includes all disks and all upgrade
manuals. Best offer.
Balance of Power, 1992 edition, for the Amiga. With manual and reg.
card. Best offer.
In the FOR SALE department:
Technics model 715 auto-reverse open-reel STEREO tape deck. Because
it's auto-reverse, this deck records onto tape just like a cassette
deck does, so it's not very good for splice-type editing. However,
I have used it effectively in "tape studio" applications for mastering,
and it works great. 3.75 and 7.5 ips speeds, supports up to 7" reels.
Dual lighted VU meters with record indicators. Full auto-reverse
capable (and the mechanism works, too!). Adjustable sound on sound,
and socket for remote control (I don't know where you'd find one, but
they used to make 'em), plus a 110VAC unswitched outlet. This unit
is in excellent condition and I have had it rebuilt once since I got
it--works perfectly.
Price: $225.00 or best offer, or possible trade (see below).
Panasonic KX-P1624 printer. 24-pin with 360x360dpi resolution in both
text and graphics modes. Warranty cards, manuals, all the usual stuff
you expect when buying like-new merchandise. I'm selling it because I
now have a better printer. This is the wide carriage version of the
KX-P1124, by the way. Test prints are available upon request.
Price: $250.00 o.b.o. or trade.
Excalibur custom pool cue. 19 oz., 13 mm, brass joint, Irish linen
wrap, could use a new tip but will hold up for a while. I've got too
many cues as it is, and don't need this one. Hits nicely, is very
straight and in excellent condition.
Price: $125.00 o.b.o. or trade. Imperial hard case (1 butt/1 shaft)
available for an additional $40.00.
TRADES: I need the following things, and I have no cash of my own right now,
so if you want to trade, it needs to be straight-across. The list:
Amiga ROM upgrade to at LEAST 2.04, preferably 2.1+, with appropriate
DOS and Workbench.
1 meg Agnus chip for the Amiga.
Amiga hard drive and controller (preferably SCSI).
IBM-compatible hard drive (and controller if not MFM). This one's
touchy, as I have a full-height and don't have room for more unless
I swap out--needs to be above 100M, and I will consider trading a
good ST-4096 in the deal.
Intel 9600EX or 14.4EX or similar EXTERNAL high-speed modem.
| 6 | misc.forsale |
For sale: Precision drafting machine, Bruning OGP-0180. Solid
older model with spring-loaded counter balance; clamps on table. Without
scales. For right handed person. $60/make offer, includes UPS/parcel post
postage.
I'm guessing that it's from the 1940s or 1950s, a period well known for
excellent drafting machine construction! :-)
It's built with real metal parts, not cheap modern plastic, and it's painted
the typical office grey popular in that period. It's smooth working, and
each of the two "arms" on it measures roughly 24". It has a dual clamp to
enable you to clamp it on the edge or corner of a table.
| 6 | misc.forsale |
Geez, what happened? She got a ticket for driving too slow???
Oh, are you saying you're not an edu.breath, then? Okay.
| 8 | rec.motorcycles |
Moving Sale: Must sell before May 5:
Futon: high-end, oak, queen, like new -- $250
Computer Desk: roll-top, locks securely, like new -- $100
Color TV: 13", perfect cond., great for bedroom -- $50 ( ***SOLD)
Coffee Tables/Dresser: $40 or B.O.
Lamps: $10
Make an offer!! | 6 | misc.forsale |
I would probobly feel a hell of a lot poorer... a gas tank is about
50$ in a junkyard. An engine... more!
Seriously though, my other brother, DARRELL, left his VW on the same
street... someone stole the radiator out of it.... try finding a VW
radiator in a junkyard :-) I DARE YOU !
JD | 7 | rec.autos |
The amount of energy being spent on ONE LOUSY SYLLOGISM says volumes for the
true position of reason in this group. | 0 | alt.atheism |
Just a quick THANKS to the many who explained the backing up of my
masters. Apparently they are NOT copy-protected; I just used a program that
is unable to handle high-density (old shit). I was surprised to hear that
"NO programs on high-density disks have copy protection," which someone
back there said. Huh! Learn something new every day! | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Does GX take the place of 32 bit QD or add to it? Right now 32 bit is
kinda aesthetically a pain in a few places because of hacks upon hacks
to maintain compatibility with original QD---I think of things like
where you have to cast CGrafPorts to GrafPorts and such. It would be a
lot cleaner to ditch this entire mess and start over---do we get that? | 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
# |## |#2. Professors get summers off; industry employees don't.
# |##
# |## What professor gets the summer off ? The primary purpose of a professor
# |## at a university is to publish. Teaching is secondary. The summer
# |## is when professors are able to do the research required for their
# |## papers.
# |#
# |#I'm told by my advisor that only at some universities is publishing
# |#the primary emphasis; many professors in the Cal State University
# |#system don't publish at all. Those that prefer teaching are under
# |#no pressure to publish.
# |#
#
# When discussing and issue, it helps that all participants use the same
# definitions, although this rarely occurs on Usenet.
#
# When I use the term "university", I think of an organization that has
# a Bachelors, Masters, and PhD program. I believe that Cal State schools
# do not. I call them colleges. UC schools are universities. At a univeristy
# the number one goal is to publish.
Cal State University system offers bachlors and masters degrees. The
Ph.D. is not offered, because of opposition from UC.
# At the Cal State schools, do the professors you speak of have PhDs? At
Nearly all the professors have PhDs. I haven't had a professor who didn't,
though my wife has had a couple of professors with just an M.A. A friend
had an instructor who didn't have a degree at all, but because he had
been Minister of Culture for the Black Panthers, he was teaching anyway.
He had a bad habit of usually not showing up to teach the class, and
finally quit in disgust at the racism of a university that expected him
to show up to teach.
# a university you have professors with PhDs and then Teaching Assistants (TAs).
# TAs were the slave labor, graduate students who got their tuition paid, and
# a few hundred a month for living expenses in exchange for doing all the grunt
# work. The professors taught the lectures, with 100 to 500 students per class,
# then the TAs taught the labs, with 20 to 30 per class.
#
# Tim Fogarty (FOGARTY@SIR-C.JPL.NASA.GOV)
At Sonoma State University, typical class size is 20 to 30 per class.
Teaching is definitely more the goal, and sometimes, it actually happens.
The best professors at Sonoma State U. are equivalent to the best
professors I had at UCLA and USC. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
You know... after I finished laughing I thought: This would be a great
final. Two Canadian teams with lots of tradition and all that Don Cherry
nonsense behind them and a nail-biter finish.
Of course, I would prefer a Vancouver--Montreal final with Vancouver
scoring the final goal....
Pity neither will happen. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
I would be grateful to anyone who knows about an X-windows application
that would emulate HP 2623A graphics in a manner similar to
the way TEK graphics windows are implemented in xterm.
Thanks for you help. | 5 | comp.windows.x |
Why is it that we have this notion that God takes some sort of pleasure
from punishing people? The purpose of hell is to destroy the devil and
his angels.
To the earlier poster who tried to support the eternal hell theory with
the fact that the fallen angels were not destroyed, remember the Bible
teaches that God has reserved them until the day of judgement. Their
judgement is soon to come.
Let me suggest this. Maybe those who believe in the eternal hell theory
should provide all the biblical evidence they can find for it. Stay away
from human theories, and only take into account references in the bible. | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
: I think Dean got hit by a pitched ball the other night... he got pinch hit for
: and didn't play against Baltimore tonight... whats up with that? Is he hurt?
: Please tell me he's not...
He evidentally got hit in the elbow by a Fernando pitch. His arm swelled
from the elbow to the wrist (or something like that). They took X-rays
of the arm and there is nothing damaged. He missed the last game with the
Orioles, but he is suppose to be ready for the next game.
Hope this helps. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
IMO any good player should score on power plays because of the man
advantage. Very good power play scorers tend to become overrated
because their point totals are inflated by power play points.
+/- tends to expose these overrated players such as Brett Hull,
John Cullen and Dave Andreychuck.
Given the opportunity to play power play consistently, any player can
inflate his totals. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
On the other hand, it would be kind of scary if there were *never* a final
verdict, because a party to litigation could keep saying "Oops! I forgot
to bring up this evidence," and demand a new trial. You get one bite at
the apple.
It's up to General Motors to find those witnesses in the first litigation.
You'd be up in arms if a plaintiff suing General Motors pulled the same
stunt and made them relitigate an issue that they already lost. It's not
as if General Motors couldn't file enough discovery motions to delay the
trial until they found all the witnesses they wanted.
Define "obvious bias."
Did GM move for a new trial on those grounds? No? Perhaps they had a
reason? | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
I don't find this a credible argument, for two reasons. One you have
supplied below: unless I care about entering the USA at any time in the
future (eg. the Taiwanese backyard cloners - who BTW have been known to
decap custom silicon and reproduce it on daughterboards when pirating
high-profit arcade machines and the like - who wouldn't care less), I am not
going to care much about US confidentiality, am I? Only people like the
real me, who does care about travelling to various countries for business
reasons, will sit up and follow laws like this, but I would contend that
we're not the main threat.
I also have grave doubts whether an algorythm widely distributed in silicon
could possibly be called "classified." It's like handing out military
secrets to the whole world in envelopes marked "don't open me." I can
imagine several credible defences which could be employed if it came to
a trial. One would be the stupidity of the government's actions.
Amusing thought: could they have employed an algorythm which is infeasable
for a fast software implementation, but which is easy in custom hardware?
In DES, the extensive use of permutation tables (trivial in hardware: you
just swap bus lines), but relatively slow in software have had a big effect
on the speed difference between hardware and software implementations of
that cipher (indeed, I suspect that Lucifer's designers were well aware that
it would be, and approved.) Certain algorythms (usually parallel search
algorythms) can be very slow in software, yet can fly in custom hardware.
I have no proof of their employment in Clipper -- it is pure conjecture.
However, as a software implementation of this cipher is something that its
designers would have been trying to avoid at all costs, then the inclusion
of such techniques seems credible.
Hmmm... I also wonder what Intergraph thinks about the use of the name
"Clipper" for this device. :)
| 11 | sci.crypt |
Finding the circumcenter of a tetrahedron is discussed on page 33 in
CONTOURING: A guide to the analysis and display of spatial data,
by Dave Watson, Pergamon Press, 1992, ISBN 0 08 040286 0, 321p.
Each pair of tetrahedral vertices define a plane which is a
perpendicular bisector of the line between that pair. Express each
plane in the form Ax + By + Cz = D
and solve the set of simultaneous equations from any three of those
planes that have a vertex in common (all vertices are used).
The solution is the circumcenter.
| 1 | comp.graphics |
I have a question about digital communications encryption:
The Fact Sheet mentioned encryption/decryption microcircuitry with
special "keys" for law enforcement for wire tapping purposes.
If I wanted to, couldn't I develop encryption of my own? That
is, if me and a partner in crime had unique Encryption/decryption
devices installed before the "tappable" one, couldn't we circumvent
the "keys" system? Or replace it?
I'd be really interested in knowing how the E/D microcircuits might
be made to prevent such befuddlement! (Laymans' Language, please! maybe a bit
technical...)
Please E-mail to me, as I'm not in Net News as much as I'd like to be!
Pete
deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
| 11 | sci.crypt |
sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes...
Which Jews KS?
(ex. as a people, as a language, religiously, politically, or...)
Do you mean those Jews who are God's chosen?
{And Malcolm, please, if you will, set your word wrap at 75 or less
to avoid clutter?} | 19 | talk.religion.misc |
Hi, | 5 | comp.windows.x |
^^^^^
I'm curious why you think that particular adjective is important. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
Compartment syndrome occurs when swelling happens in a "compartment"
bounded by fascia. The pressure rises in the compartment and blood
supply and nerves are compromised. The treatment is to open the
compartment surgically. THe most common places for compartment
syndromes are the forearm and calf. It is an emergency, since
if the pressure is not relieved, stuff will die.
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | 13 | sci.med |
About as good as Mussina's. better than Sutcliffe's and McDonald's
He's in the bullpen. Steinbrenner is in charge after all.
He's got the talent to be the 4th starter now, and evetually the ace.
He was a higher ranked (and generally better) prospect than Arthur
Rhodes who happens to be, well hey, the Oriole's 4th starter.
As for Militello, it's still early. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
[a list of large-integer arithmetic packages elided]
I thought I would note that except Lenstra's packages, none of the
large-integer packages are in the public domain. As an alternative,
a straightforward *PD* implementation of Knuth's algorithms may be
found as a part of Uof Arizona's ICON distribution.
oz | 11 | sci.crypt |
If I remember rightly PKU syndrome in infants is about 1/1200 ? They lack
two genes. And people who lack one gene are supposed to be 1/56 persons?
Those with PKU have to avoid naturally occuring phenylalanine. And those
who only have one gene and underproduce whatever it is they are supposed to
be producing are supposed to be less tolerant of aspartame.
The methol, formaldahyde thing was supposed to occur with heating? | 13 | sci.med |
:>Curtis JAckson pens...
:>
:>"MSF course...$140"
:
:Shyah!
:
:The one here only costs $35!
:
:(Izzat a deal or what?! :)
They are free in Philadelphia.... :-)
--
'81 CB650 DoD #1224 | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
The CR purchase would be the Ford Probe GT.
john
| 7 | rec.autos |
We're considering getting a Ford Explorer XLT with 4WD and we have the
following questions (All we would do is go skiing -- no off-roading):
1. With 4WD, do we need the "performance axle" - (limited slip axle).
Its purpose is to allow the tires to act independently when the tires
are on different terrain.
2. Do we need the all-terrain tires (P235/75X15) or will the
all-season (P225/70X15) be good enough for us at Lake Tahoe?
Thanks,
Tom
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Tom Shou Silicon Graphics
shou@asd.sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd.
415-390-5362 MS 8U-815
415-962-0494 (fax) Mountain View, CA 94043 | 7 | rec.autos |
perhaps you can quote just a bit of her argument? | 19 | talk.religion.misc |
My old jacket is about to bite the dust so I'm in the market for a new riding
jacket. I'm looking for recommendations for a suitable replacement. I would
like to buy a full Aerostich suit but I can't afford $700 for it right now.
I'm considering two basic options:
1) Buy the Aerostich jacket only. Dunno how much it costs
due to recent price increases, but I'd imagine over $400.
That may be pushing my limit. Advantages include the fact
that I can later add the pants, and that it nearly eliminates
the need for the jacket portion of a rainsuit.
2) Buy some kind of leather jacket. I like a few of the new
Hein-Gericke FirstGear line, however they may be a bit pricey
unless I can work some sort of deal. Advantages of leather
are potentially slightly better protection, enhanced pose
value (we all know how important that is :-), possibly cheaper
than upper Aerostich.
Requirements for a jacket are that it must fit over a few other
layers (mainly a sizing thing), if leather i'd prefer a zip-out
lining, it MUST have some body armor similar to aerostich (elbows,
shoulders, forearms, possibly back/kidney protection, etc.), a
reasonable amount of pocket space would be nice, ventilation would
be a plus, however it must be wearable in cold weather (below
freezing) with layers or perhaps electrics.
Please fire away with suggestions, comments, etc...
Steve
-- | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
That's one. Any others?
Then they should have used a different advert.
I'm both. I've made some $4k worth of PC products purchasing
decisions for one company I'm affiliated with in the past 6 months
alone. (In a delicious bit of irony, an interesting fraction went to
suppliers that I suspect got my mailing address from these people.)
More is in the pipeline right now.
If they wanted to discuss these sorts of things, upfront is the
way to do it.
And who issues that "VIP Code"? (That policy implementation in the
running for this week's "silly twit" award.) BTW - It turns out that
I have several VIP codes. Here's the one I'm using for these sorts of
things: "6". (If you want one, send me mail and I'll put you in touch
with the folks who do the application interview; if you qualify....)
-andy | 6 | misc.forsale |
Gosh, Gregg. I'm pretty good a reading between the lines, but
you've given me precious little to work with in this refutation.
Could you maybe flesh it out just a bit? Or did I miss the full
grandeur of it's content by virtue of my blinding atheism?
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Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM
They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,
and sank Manhattan out at sea. | 0 | alt.atheism |
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