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95a1qm | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 07 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-07 09:12:26 | 88 | e3s4kd5 | I d just like to say I m SO glad we had a Daily Investor Discussion thread live today. Good job mods on this new initiative I think it s been working out great! | ThisbeMachine | 2018-08-07 19:32:26 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
95kfow | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 08 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-08 09:12:19 | 54 | e3u7swq | Whether you are long or short do not bet more than you can afford to lose on the basis that you think 420 is guaranteed or you think the stock is overvalued. The market is full of extremely smart people with decades of experience and a ton of proprietary information. If you think you magically know something about the stock price and where it should trade - you probably don t. Do not bet more than you can afford to lose. There are a lot of people in this thread particularly _ __Tesla__ __ who are spreading misinformation and inaccurate information. They do not understand corporate finance investing or how buyouts work. Do not bet more than you can afford to lose. | matraza | 2018-08-08 18:17:19 | 46 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
95uues | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 09 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-09 09:12:43 | 48 | e3vtvjs | The most amazing thing about this is that Musk is either going to look like the greatest dealmaker of all time for taking an unprofitable company private at $70+ billion valuation. Or he s going to come out looking like a total fraud if the funding isn t there. Total hero or zero moment right here. We ll all get to say we watched it in real time. | stockbroker | 2018-08-09 12:53:00 | 39 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
965cko | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 10 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-10 09:12:27 | 29 | e3yvvfm | I m just gonna come out and say it: I have no fucking clue what the fuck is going on | belladoyle | 2018-08-10 19:38:12 | 60 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
96fb27 | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 11 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-11 09:12:01 | 17 | e40dawp | If Musk had not gotten funding secured by way of at the very least an in principal agreement...What s the worst that could happen to him? Personally I feel that was not merely misleading it was a blatant lie. Hard to see the funding being secured in any way. Question is...does he have to pay for this? If yes how? | learner1314 | 2018-08-11 14:56:00 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
96o04p | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 12 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-12 09:13:24 | 16 | e42e6p4 | Ouch HB filed a class action. https: www.hbsslaw.com cases tsla pressrelease tesla-inc-nasdaq-tsla-hagens-berman-sobol-shapiro-llp-files-securities-class-action-against-tesla-inc-nasdaq-tsla-and-elon-musk-for-false-market-moving-tweet | christobevii3 | 2018-08-12 16:46:47 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
96wtc5 | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 13 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-13 09:13:47 | 28 | e44xv80 | Matt Levine has posted a really good (imo) [update](https: www.bloomberg.com view articles 2018-08-13 funding-for-elon-musk-s-tesla-buyout-wasn-t-so-secure) on the situation and Musk s obsession with going private. > If Musk wants to find a widespread pool of investors willing to take a gamble on his vision for Tesla *he has (already) found them*. I think the whole debacle is just uggghh why would Musk have tweeted that! . It would have been nice if there were some lawyers or financial officers between Musk and his Twitter. Unfortunately the regulators and or suing plaintiffs might have a pretty decent case against Musk with him saying he wanted to squeeze short sellers. | square_smile | 2018-08-13 21:26:31 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
976u5f | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 14 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-14 09:12:12 | 18 | e46l1j3 | Bloomberg is just piling on at this point: > GOLDMAN SACHS IS SAID TO HAVE HAD NO MANDATE WHEN MUSK TWEETED When Musk tweeted this morning about working with Goldman Sachs...well apparently Goldman Sachs didn t know they were working with Musk. That actually makes sense because GS s equity research department hasn t suspended coverage yet. **Edit:** The [story is out](https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2018-08-14 goldman-sachs-is-said-to-have-had-no-mandate-when-musk-tweeted). > Even at the time of the more recent tweet from Musk Goldman Sachs hadn t formally signed on to help take Tesla private the people said asking not to be identified as the information isn t public. | stockbroker | 2018-08-14 17:02:24 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
97gsly | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 15 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-15 09:11:58 | 23 | e48gxoi | > SCOOP: SEC ramps up investigation into Tesla privatization plans sends subpoenas to Tesla regarding privatization plans and Musk s statements involving funding secured --sources Subpoenas signal investigation has reached the formal stages -- sources more now @FoxBusiness [@CGasparino](https: twitter.com CGasparino status 1029740099339268096) | stockbroker | 2018-08-15 14:48:05 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
97qqau | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 16 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-16 09:11:59 | 19 | e4aegs1 | Honestly I have to give some praise to TSLA PR for spreading-out the CNBC story of a friendly analyst taking a tour and successfully crowding-out TSLA s backing-out of their solar deal with Panasonic. More evidence that the Solar City buyout was a complete fiduciary travesty. | DisallowanceOfActs | 2018-08-16 12:30:15 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
980rkf | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 17 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-17 09:12:27 | 40 | e4csmrv | Can Tesla just fucking build stuff!? I am years long but maybe it s time to find a Gwynn for Tesla? | machine_yearning | 2018-08-17 14:41:16 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
98aewn | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 18 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). | AutoModerator | 2018-08-18 09:11:56 | 11 | e4em7hn | One thing I haven t seen any short consider is that Elon could be prosecuted for the funding secured tweet being a lie but a deal to take Tesla private *still takes place*. They are treating it as a completely binary event. However there are people on both sides of this trade who have such extreme views that no amount of evidence would convince them they are wrong. Tesla is going to $0. There is going to be a short squeeze to $800. Both of those scenarios are extremely unlikely. Shorting Tesla at $370-380 after it was clear funding wasn t exactly secured was a smart move with almost no downside. Going all in with your life savings at $370 was just stupid especially given Elon s recent Twitter outbursts. I expect a bit of a bounce on Monday followed by a gentle downtrend for a while until any sort of material good news comes out. Shorting at this level comes with a fairly hefty tail risk from either a deal materialising a suprise product announcement or just excellent Q3 results. However just like longs pilled in at $370 I expect some shorts will pile in at this level and the market likes to punish so perhaps a suprise bounce at some point to shake them out. | Ukleafowner | 2018-08-18 12:02:29 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
98j1we | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - August 19 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious. | AutoModerator | 2018-08-19 09:13:13 | 15 | e4gixjt | Elon Tweeting about bankruptcy in the dead of night is not going to help the stock tomorrow. Another bloodbath incoming? https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1031111742103814144?s=09 | silverwolfe09 | 2018-08-19 12:22:25 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
92kudc | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - July 28 2018 | We re trying something out. Use this daily thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Please ping the mods with feedback. | AutoModerator | 2018-07-28 09:09:48 | 24 | e36ozfu | I think both Porsche and Jaguar finding themselves struggling with EV highlights a very important competitive advantage for Tesla. The people that were ringing the death knell - will hopefully realize that while Tesla does want competition their struggles will be felt by the big boys also. Just because you are good at making ICE cars doesn t mean you are suddenly eminently qualified to make EVs. Sure you have some manufacturing chops to bring to the table but there s some adaption that s required. Something Something Bane quote - adapted to it vs born and molded by it. The other thing is the SuperCharger network - I love the supposed speed of the Taycan s charging - but how long before the US is blanketed so you can travel along the coast? Tesla solved that problem over many years. Porsche could get there but 2019 isn t it. I hope the earnings call next week touches on the competition s troubles at least a little to bring awareness to the fact that rules didn t change - the game did. | Alpha_Tech | 2018-07-28 14:00:12 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
92tl4w | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - July 29 2018 | We re trying something out. Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Please ping the mods with feedback. | AutoModerator | 2018-07-29 09:13:57 | 39 | e38c9ky | EV revolution July 2018: [Tesla 3 outsells BMW 2+3+4+5 Mercedes C+CLA+CLS+E and Audi A3+4+5+6+7](https: cleantechnica.com 2018 07 28 tesla-model-3-sales-vs-small-midsize-luxury-car-sales-usa-tesla-now-crushing-the-competition ). So that means Tesla is doomed and the stock will go down. Right? | shaim2 | 2018-07-29 10:49:48 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
932k7g | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - July 30 2018 | What s this thread? [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Please ping the mods with feedback. | AutoModerator | 2018-07-30 09:14:55 | 38 | e3b6p0t | Have to say these daily threads are great. 184 comments today is more than most threads get. | BLSmith2112 | 2018-07-30 20:18:46 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
93cvwq | $TSLA Daily Investor Discussion - July 31 2018 | What s this thread? [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. We will try daily for a week long. Please ping the mods with feedback. | AutoModerator | 2018-07-31 09:12:46 | 36 | e3dr3oq | Just want to chime in and say thanks to the mods for making this a daily thread instead of bi-weekly. It s so much better this way much more active and trackable | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2018-07-31 23:36:28 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9anf48 | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - August 27 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-08-27 09:14:01 | 46 | e4xp7ss | Tesla wins dismissal of shareholder lawsuit over Model 3 production Aug 27 (Reuters) - A federal judge in San Francisco has dismissed a lawsuit in which Tesla Inc < TSLA.O> shareholders accused the carmaker of misleading the public about the progress on production of its Model 3 vehicle. In a decision made public on Monday U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer said that while the plaintiffs claimed that Tesla fell short of its production goals federal securities laws do not punish companies for failing to achieve their targets. Breyer said the plaintiffs have until Sept. 28 to amend their complaint. (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York Editing by Dan Grebler) | JackONeill12 | 2018-08-27 20:14:08 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a2n1he | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - December 03 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-12-03 09:13:39 | 14 | eazq474 | Movement more from 7k week or China tariffs? Looking at timing I d say China | PB94941 | 2018-12-03 10:13:26 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ab5l67 | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - December 31 2018 | Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more active daily investor discussions. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-12-31 09:13:54 | 13 | ecy3hvg | I believe we re going to see sales numbers and even the Q4 letter released ASAP this year. Those $360 bonds aren t gonna convert themselves. | Setheroth28036 | 2018-12-31 14:56:05 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
afu2v5 | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - January 14 2019 | Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more active daily investor discussions. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2019-01-14 09:13:51 | 11 | ee2qkns | Funding secured was as close to a squeeze as we ll ever see. | Boildown | 2019-01-14 21:43:54 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
akls9x | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - January 28 2019 | Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more active daily investor discussions. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2019-01-28 09:13:51 | 17 | ef62ja6 | Tesla has been pretty quiet lately. I wonder if they are saving a nice announcement or two for the days before March 1. | OPVFTW | 2019-01-28 12:15:27 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9uc28o | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - November 05 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-11-05 09:13:24 | 25 | e98mmpa | I feel like TSLA would be higher today if people were not playing the BUY 300 SELL 350 game | PB94941 | 2018-11-07 18:05:27 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9wciz5 | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - November 12 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-11-12 09:13:20 | 29 | e9ksv08 | Someone help me understand how Uber is worth 100-120B when they burn cash (1.1B per quarter) have less revenue than Tesla (7B vs 2.7B per quarter) and have no physical assets or manufacturing. Personally I think Tesla has more moats and better programmers. Tesla only has $60B market cap. What am I missing in Uber s valuation? Why should we not be shorting Uber as soon as it IPOs and Waymo and Tesla kicks Uber s ass? Tesla showed a path forward when more cars are made and operations stay the same. Money could be made. Uber s advertising (operations) always outpaces their income. They have fierce competition in every country. While Tesla seems to have little (integrated software EV car) competition in the electric future of 2030. What s special about Uber? Tesla has what Uber has makes cars batteries self driving chipsets and solar. This makes no sense. | azntorian | 2018-11-12 21:13:49 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9yf6oz | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - November 19 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-11-19 09:13:15 | 33 | ea3dm7k | [Re-posting this from the Einhorn short seller losses thread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9yde6o noted_short_einhorn_reported_during_earnings_call ea3djhb ) because I think this is relevant to the investor thread as well people appear to be confused about **when $TSLA is going to be included in the S& P 500**: > You keep saying this but Tesla needs four straight quarters of positive EPS to be eligible. They just hit the first one so at a minimum it will be ~9 months from now and that s assuming they get put in immediately after (which isn t a given). No that s wrong that s not the inclusion criteria. You are citing the S& P 500 inclusion rules as commonly misinterpreted in several places when you do a Google search for it: Investopedia for example has it wrong. The *real* S& P 500 inclusion criteria is [according to the S& P committee itself](https: us.spindices.com documents methodologies methodology-sp-us-indices.pdf): > S& P Composite 1500. *The sum of the most recent four consecutive quarters * Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) earnings (net income excluding discontinued operations) *should be positive as should the most recent quarter.* (The S& P 500 is also in the S& P 1500 so the same rules apply.) Q2 18 losses were -$717m so if Tesla simply repeats their Q3 18 earnings of $311m in Q4 and Q1 then they ll be included in the S& P 500 on the next quarterly re-indexing because -717+311+311+311=+$222m. They can also post worse GAAP income up to a buffer of ~$221m - as long as Q1 19 has a positive net income. (Note that there s an outside chance that if Tesla posts wildly profitable Q4 18 but that would require a GAAP profit of around 1 billion dollars which looks unlikely at this point.) So yes I keep saying this ***because it s true***: **if Tesla posts profitable Q4 18 and Q1 19 quarters similar to Q3 18 profits then $TSLA will be included in the S& P 500 on the next scheduled re-indexing which is around May June next year.** Index front-running arbitrage traders are very likely already trading on this possibility. | __Tesla__ | 2018-11-20 10:22:34 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a0hw0b | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - November 26 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-11-26 09:13:58 | 12 | eailw08 | Don t understand Elon s comments about being weeks from bankrupcy. 2.5 billion approx in the bank. Even if the ramp took another quarter they would have been able to stay afloat looking at past big cash burn quarters | nickname_esco | 2018-11-26 18:19:13 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9kes1y | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - October 01 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-10-01 09:15:17 | 63 | e6zfe2d | [Found a really good analysis on whether you should buy or sell](https: imgur.com a hkb7X5t) | spoca | 2018-10-01 18:59:43 | 53 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9mdb2r | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - October 08 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-10-08 09:14:08 | 28 | e7ejle9 | I just bought more. I have tripled my position in TSLA since Friday. I hope this works out...otherwise i am headed for WSB mod status. | KitsapDad | 2018-10-08 17:50:23 | 33 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9ob2kd | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - October 15 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-10-15 09:13:20 | 44 | e7w8zvm | Yahoo finance is very bad look at their headline about SEC settlement and the price action today: **Tesla Stock Rises as the End of Elon Musk s Time as Chairman Nears** | troyhouse | 2018-10-16 21:26:49 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9qc36r | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - October 22 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-10-22 09:13:17 | 34 | e8ap5y1 | Look at these Citron guys this is very funny [https: citronresearch.com wp-content uploads 2018 10 Citron-reverses-opinion-on-Tesla-too-compelling-to-ignore.pdf](https: citronresearch.com wp-content uploads 2018 10 Citron-reverses-opinion-on-Tesla-too-compelling-to-ignore.pdf) | Karl___Marx | 2018-10-23 14:02:56 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9sbhjn | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - October 29 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-10-29 09:13:20 | 45 | e8v21v6 | Kara Swisher on Parascope detailing her 80 minute interview (airing Friday) of Elon. Here s some of my notes listening to her live just now: * Elon is in a calmer state of mind. * Talked to Elon about his Twitter problem (outbursts) - he is still proud over some. * He couldn t talk much about SEC. * Met Elon on Halloween night. * He blames 120 work-weeks for the outbursts. * States issues are mostly fixed for Model 3 production. * Wants to name BFR Heart of Gold. * Got him to slightly apologize for attacking journalists. * Elon likes the Space Force. * New products coming out from Tesla. * He was rested calmer the Elon we re used to seeing from interviews in years past. * Elon said He ll never make a mistake again haha. * She didn t ask him if he should be CEO or who should be his #2. She wishes she did. Edit: I asked her if Elon talked about profitability she said: Every quarter going forward they re going to be cash flow positive. | BLSmith2112 | 2018-11-01 18:09:07 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9cjzxe | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - September 03 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-09-03 09:14:06 | 66 | e5ejz6s | https: www.buzzfeednews.com amphtml ryanmac elon-musk-thai-cave-rescuer-accusations-buzzfeed-email?__twitter_impression=true So uhhhh can anyone explain how this fits into the grand plan? | ExpOriental | 2018-09-04 23:10:04 | 66 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9eleat | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - September 10 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-09-10 09:14:26 | 53 | e5qad83 | Really happy that I picked up more at 260. | JackONeill12 | 2018-09-10 16:12:11 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9girh7 | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - September 17 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-09-17 09:13:55 | 46 | e677a3s | It was so quiet for what.. almost 2 weeks? It was nice. | MacDaddy039 | 2018-09-18 16:01:30 | 36 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9igfa2 | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - September 24 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | AutoModerator | 2018-09-24 09:13:51 | 27 | e6k3e3j | Took a trip from Southern California to Central California saw 4 different car carriers heading down the 101 full of Model 3s and was on the road for a little over 5 hours. It was a glorious thing it s.......happening. | jajajinxo | 2018-09-24 16:57:37 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
98tdb8 | $TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion | Apologies I messed up automod when I was changing the schedule from the daily to weekly for the first time. Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q2 Earnings Official Thread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93rhl3 tesla_tsla_second_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious. We are doing this because investor related talk is overpowering the sub and we are not an investor forum. | 110110 | 2018-08-20 13:00:52 | 56 | e4il6il | Aaaand we re back under 300. All the folks who bought at 360 thinking they had free money due to funding secured are learning just what Elon s credibility is worth. | DUALITY_SHOW | 2018-08-20 13:42:28 | 63 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
37n395 | $TSLA closes over 250 | It s been pretty quiet regarding the stock since it was in the 180s. With the rise in price the short interest has not really dropped too much. http: www.nasdaq.com symbol tsla short-interest Over 25 million shares shorted. It was down to ~21 million shares at its highs last fall. No special observation here except a $60 plus rise in the stock in 60 days. I do recall commenting a few weeks ago that the next 60 days would be exciting. Model x launch on tap next | yutz23 | 2015-05-28 21:07:12 | 28 | cro4s2u | Im tryna find a decent dip in price to buy in at but it keeps on creeping up. Kicking myself for not buying at 190. | nickname_esco | 2015-05-28 21:47:44 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
eh5kk7 | < =HW2.5 and Voice Commands | 2018 Model 3 LR AWD FSD I m noticing the if I am at home on wifi the voice commands seem to work pretty well. However when I m out and about and on the Tesla network connection it s pretty hit or miss or none at all on the voice commands. Has anyone postulated voice commands and level of response could also be hardware related and not just all network related? Reason I bring it up is dictation and respond to text message does not work at all even when I m on WiFi. The text will come in if I press the scroll it reads it fine but if I press the scroll wheel nothing holding it for extended period of time or just press and release has absolutely no response from the system. The Microphone screen does not come at all. It s like the scroll wheel is dead even though when pressed it played the incoming message. So could it be a combination of Network and hardware? By now everyone has pretty much hammered the voice commands across the fleet and I d suspect similarities should be occurring. So I put to the esteemed community if it could also be hardware related on the full functionality of the voice commands. If so that would cut down on the Voice command postings seeing the community believes its hardware and software…. | GoTesla | 2019-12-29 12:48:09 | 18 | fcev33k | 3 out of 4 times I use voice command it simply ignores me. But when it hears me it works. | katriik | 2019-12-29 12:53:28 | 22 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
8o7e51 | < Discussion> Tesla s history of poor level of build quality has resulted in people being hyper sensitive to any issues now. | With some of the faults issues down to an exhaustive checklist to me it seems that Tesla is a has made a rod for its own back now with owners scrutinising their cars far far more than they ever would have with other manufacturers. Anecdotally for me having bought two new non Tesla cars in the past the idea of a checklist is ridiculous but I understand why people are doing it. This isn t a post on the people but I think what Tesla has created is that their already problematic support network is going to get more smashed than ever because people are going in expecting a 100% flawless car when that just isn t very likely even with competitor vehicles. If you look close enough in every nook and cranny of even brand new cars you ll fine problems. They are in the end built from materiel that vary in quality and it s extremely hard to get everything exact 100% of the time. So in Tesla s pursuit of fixing it later it might have created a scenario where owners will nitpick even minor minor details and tie up the Service network trying to get it fixed. What s people s thoughts on this? | Mantaup | 2018-06-03 09:02:01 | 126 | e01egbp | > Anecdotally for me having bought two new non Tesla cars in the past the idea of a checklist is ridiculous but I understand why people are doing it. Because even a Toyota dealer let alone a luxury brand would have done all of this for you before you get the car versus Tesla who didn t even notice a Model3 had been dropped dragged off the delivery truck. Many of the issues people are bringing up simply don t exist in other cars (or are very rare) I don t see why it s unreasonable to expect a product that was assembled correctly and not damaged in transport. | sryan2k1 | 2018-06-03 12:50:13 | 88 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
442wcl | (Buy Lease) vs Buy preowned | Been digging into options regarding acquiring a Tesla :) Had a few questions for those of you who have already gone through this. Anyone here buy a preowned Tesla? If so how was the experience? Any issues? If buying preowned through Tesla s site can you still do a trade in through them? The other options being buying leasing a new Tesla. I would probably stick to the 70D if going this route due to pricing (I know the model 3 is coming but I like the body style). Thats why preowned is appealing in general. Anyways I am still in the very early stages of researching so any feedback is appreciated! | papertigerss | 2016-02-04 00:52:21 | 14 | czn6mpo | Check out this great calculator for buying leasing new and inventory. It shows leasing might be cheaper but keeping it after the lease will cost you a ton. http: www.teslamotorsclub.com showthread.php 61701-TCO-Lease-vs-Loan-Cost-Spreadsheet I ended up placing an order tonight for an inventory 70. Only 900 miles so still brand new. | ClevelandSteamer81 | 2016-02-04 03:56:32 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bjuzsp | (Canada) Apparently there is no way to upgrade the range of the 150km Model 3 | Just talked with a Tesla rep and she told me that if you buy the CAD $45k Model 3 you re stuck with that range forever with no possibility to upgrade. If that s true it seems like the only reasonable choice is the $55k trim. Since they removed the $47k SR with decent range they effectively increased the price of the Model 3 by $8k in order to be admissible to a $5K rebate... | Glmnet1 | 2019-05-02 13:33:02 | 48 | embdbh3 | You re not supposed to actually buy that one. | garthreddit | 2019-05-02 13:40:13 | 75 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bfxbcf | (DISCUSSION) Much improved side collision detection in 2019.8.x! | Just completed a drive from SF to Vegas and back and I have to say Autopilot has gotten even more capable. This time I had zero takeovers on the highway due to Autopilot departing lane lines. This used to happen at least a few times on curvy mountain passes (Pacheco pass and the Tehachapi mountains are fairly challenging and require fairly steep steering angles to stay in the lane). But the biggest improvement was how well the car detected when another car fails to check their blind spot and makes an unsafe lane change. On two occasions I had a minivan next to me suddenly steer at me while I was driving next to them. Side collision alarms blared at around the exact same time I noticed the situation. The side collision warnings have never been this sensitive before — this is a super welcome improvement. | chillaban | 2019-04-22 03:17:08 | 56 | elh4uc8 | I ve noticed that the car is able to handle super curvy city roads infinitely better now too. Before it would fail and give the Take Over Immediately warning at certain spots but now it handles all these roads without issue. The new NN is a super welcome improvement and super impressive. | 0xEFF | 2019-04-22 04:43:56 | 24 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
cav5xf | (Denver CO) Looking to borrow (or buy) a Nema 14-50 adapter until I can get my own to charge my 3 at home | I ve been trying to order a 14-50 adapter and am getting pretty desperate. If you or anyone you know owns a Tesla in the Denver area could you refer them to this post? I d pay to **borrow** the adapter or I d love to **buy** it from them. Thank you! | dr_diagnosis | 2019-07-09 03:10:42 | 11 | etc3bvq | You can buy one from me. New in box. $37.50. In Boulder but in downtown Denver this morning for work. | D-RO24 | 2019-07-09 12:05:15 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8mrmhp | (Discussion) Let The Games Begin: Tesla Running New Dutch Auction Strategy for CPO Sales | Hello all CPO Hunter here sharing an interesting observation that s changing the CPO game as we head into summer. The past year or so has seen a lot of interesting behavior in how Tesla handles CPO sales. For the first while if its existence the CPO program was seen a as a good way to get a reasonable deal on a used but fully reconditioned Tesla vehicle with a four year warranty to back it up. The deals available got even sweeter for some lower end consumers when Tesla expanded its CPO program to vehicles over 50 000 miles albeit with half the warranty. The beginning of the 2 year CPO offerings saw some of the lowest CPO prices ever recorded with lucky buyers being able to get into a fully reconditioned Model S in the high $30 000 range. Then Tesla did a complete 180. The CPO program was basically soft\-cancelled as Tesla decided to hold back units to build out its rental fleet. What CPOs did remain were priced so outrageously that it was hard not to argue Tesla was just trying to steer you into a new 75D instead of buying used. However as of this month \(May 2018\) the CPO program is back with an aggressive new Dutch Auction pricing strategy. For those not familiar with the term a Dutch Auction is one in which the price starts very high but is lowered rapidly until a buyer emerges. Tesla (and any car lot for that matter) has used this strategy to an extent since day one cars that sat too long in the CPO program would eventually see price decreases usually after several weeks. However what we are seeing now is a completely different thing. Tesla is dropping prices on many CPOs by **several hundred dollars per day every day**. As a result sharp\-eyed CPO hunters are using CPO tracking alerts to stay updated on cars that match their interest profile and then swooping in when the price reaches their desired level. This creates interesting disparities: [Model S 60 41k miles pre\-AutoPilot: currently $60 300: ](https: www.tesla.com used 5YJSA1S19FFP77076?redirect=no) Compare with P66139 a P85D \(!!\) 39k miles with Autopilot sold for $59 700! Now let s look at the price history for that bargain P85D: |5 20 18|$59 700| |:-|:-| |5 19 18|$60 300| |5 17 18|$60 900| |5 16 18|$61 500| |5 15 18|$62 100| |.....|....| |5 6 18|$67 600 \(beginning dutch auction price\)| Who knows how low this car would have gotten had someone not swooped it up? There will be deals to be had in the coming days for consumers who pay attention. Happy hunting! \-CPO Hunter | TeslaCpoHunter | 2018-05-28 17:07:09 | 94 | dzpwp5d | Removing the [Not refurbished](https: i.imgur.com DgDA6Ah.jpg) statement is a bit misleading. Most or maybe all major manufacturers recondition CPO cars. They replace worn out parts with new pieces including plastic pieces trim pieces etc. That s what people expect. Tesla doesn t do any refurbishing since April 2018. Initially their CPO page used to say [Not refurbished](https: i.imgur.com DgDA6Ah.jpg). Now they have replaced that with [Mechanically inspected](https: i.imgur.com uFkNk9N.png). Tesla is better than this. I want them to be better than this. That s why I criticise them. They are creating a long-lasting negative experience with these misleading advertisement tactics. | Teslike | 2018-05-28 18:16:16 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8laylq | (Discussion) The High Cost of High Trims- Three Year Old P85D s seeing high depreciation as used offerings increase | With Tesla starting to sell CPOs in force again we see increasing number of the once king-of-the-hill P85D starting to hit the used marketplace. The numbers aren t pretty for early buyers hoping to retain some of the equity in their high-dollar cars. Numerous P85D CPOs (some with the full 4 year warranty) are currently listed in the $60k range with some sales even being recorded in the mid-to-high $50 s. We saw for years that the single motor P85 cars commanded little if any premium over a regular 85 in the used marketplace now the gap seems to be narrowing for dual motor performance cars as well. P85D cars started with a base price of $105 670. Assuming most high trim cars will carry at least $10 000 in options (easily reachable with just seats paint hi-fi sound and sunroof) a current value around $60k would mean the car has lost almost half its value which over 36 months equates to around **$1500 month in depreciation expense**! While this is not unusual in the world of high dollar luxury performance cars it can still can sting to someone who expected the coveted Tesla badge and elite acceleration figures to protect them somewhat. More importantly as these cars represent the point in Model S lifespan when reliability began to improve these cars can represent deals for sharp consumers looking for a much more palatable price on an electric rocket sled. Will dual motor cars continue to slide closer to vanilla single motor pricing or is this a temporary anomaly? Only time will tell. Happy CPO ing! | TeslaCpoHunter | 2018-05-22 15:43:45 | 39 | dze3zuj | I ll be honest with you - if it s something that concerns you you shouldn t buy the car in the first place. They re cars not investments. If you don t want to deal with depreciation lease - don t buy. | dirtyfries | 2018-05-22 15:45:38 | 47 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
aeksfn | (Discussion) speculating about EAP vs FSD features. | This is pure speculation but something I thought would be an interesting discussion point. What if we get essentially all FSD features in EAP but the difference being that you have to have the driver in the seat and maintaining full driver liability? Musk tweeted awhile back that soon EAP would take you from garage to your work. I m not here to debate what “soon” means but I see a lot of people assuming that we won t see many new features for EAP with most of the new stuff going to those with FSD. The problem I have here is that they need more data to push legislation. So wouldn t they want a wide group of drivers with EAP running essentially FSD but with a human backup? That data seems more valuable than the cash flow they might receive from some drivers upgrading to FSD for these new features. I m assuming FSD is 5-10 years off best case scenario. In 5 years competitors can bring on level 3-4 autonomous driving while EAP is stuck at 2? I somehow doubt that. What are your thoughts? | geminiwave | 2019-01-10 16:46:29 | 10 | edq0ixi | No FSD requires a computer upgrade that EAP isn t getting. | altimas | 2019-01-10 16:49:52 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
501ih0 | (Dummy) question | So I m not a car expert I m only a fan of Tesla motors but I have a question regarding Tesla and Formula E. If the Tesla model S P100D is faster both in terms of acceleration and top speed than a Formula E car why don t they just race Teslas? I don t really see why Formula E cars are so aerodynamically designed and stuff if an Electric Sedan can out-perform them. Sorry for the dummy question. | Benlikesrockets | 2016-08-28 21:27:01 | 15 | d70f4wn | Teslas are not race cars. The only problem is the overheating of the car battery due to the extreme pressure they re put under when going extreme speeds. So while you may be able to go fast for a bit you won t go far. | Armano231 | 2016-08-28 21:35:04 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9msot5 | (Feature Req) App notification that updates are ready for download | I m a TM3 owner without Wi-Fi where I park but I m also very interested in the latest software. Like others I m resorting to move my car to a temporary location with Wi-Fi access at random times of the day and night eagerly looking for signs of the V9 release. This is because Wi-Fi connected cars get the latest releases and only after an indeterminate amount of time do LTE cars finally update. I d love a feature where the car or the app would notify you that a download is pending (maps or firmware) and suggest you connect your car to Wi-Fi to update. That way I don t have to be following the speculation on here and religiously monitoring TeslaFi & my wireless APs usage logs. I d just happily know that once my car is targeted for a release I ll be informed promptly and can relocate my car. | Laveruk | 2018-10-09 20:22:15 | 12 | e7h1gl8 | Did you not know that once you update to v9 from that version forward the app on your phone will notify you and let you select the install from the app? | spudlime | 2018-10-09 20:34:43 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y0zwj | (Feature Request) Integration of Maps with PlugShare or equivalent | It would be incredibly helpful if the maps were to show where local chargers are paid or free. I know my city s fire and police departments have free J-1772 chargers across the city and it would be super helpful to know how close one of destinations would be to a charger like this. Would also be cool if it showed Chargepoint Blink stations. | teslabobby | 2018-07-11 16:21:46 | 19 | e277u8t | Yeah it would be nice to have options on that too. - Connectors supported - MPH charge rate slider (based on current state of charge) That way you could find stations that fit your car and filter out the dog-slow ones when you are in a hurry. | jpbeans | 2018-07-11 16:39:27 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
9n0ugp | (Feature Request) Wiper speed selection | Not a big fan of the way they implemented the current wiper speed selection. Currently when doing a soft press on the wiper button it wipes the windshield once and opens the wiper speed window. While the window is up soft pressing the button again should cycle through auto speed 1 2 3 4 and repeat. Hard pressing for wiper fluid remains unchanged. This keeps your eyes on the road and hands on the steering wheel. | utc4984 | 2018-10-10 16:11:26 | 23 | e7iqqy9 | While the wiper window is up I d love to be able to use the right scroll wheel for mode selection. A quick flick up would move it to auto quickly. Quick flick down would go to speed 1. Small increments would go up down a speed. Pressing in the right scroll would turn it off. | Kev1000000 | 2018-10-10 16:17:23 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8y09hi | (Feature request) human feedback mechanism for rating autopilot. | It d be nice if AP could incorporate a trained model based on human feedback. The problem I see is that (maybe I m uninformed) some drivers think AP might be doing something that they consider too risky or too slow dumb. The feedback would go into a data collection analysis deployment process and determine the best fit for the driver. | CAredditBoss | 2018-07-11 14:55:34 | 16 | e27alg6 | Say the voice command bug report autopilot didnt maintain lane | one_pump_trump | 2018-07-11 17:15:13 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
gd0ij5 | (Help) Do you actually get anything buying with reservation nowadays? | I have an early reservation for a Model 3 but haven t ordered one yet. Since the production queue has been normalized for a long time now I was wondering whether there s any point to keeping my reservation until I order. I didn t see anything on Tesla s website and searching the internet has given inconsistent results. So I was wondering: does ordering with the reservation actually give you anything extra? Or is it pointless by this point? If you don t get anything with a reservation it seems like the best bet would be to cancel that and order from a referral instead. Thanks! | ze_world | 2020-05-03 23:25:01 | 17 | fpejmt6 | Pointless. Cancel. | 404davee | 2020-05-03 23:33:52 | 32 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
3mby9k | (Joke) Why hasn t Tesla move on to neutron battery technology yet? | It would completely solve the range problem neutrons *never* have to be charged! . . . I ll show myself out. | vookungdoofu | 2015-09-25 13:11:28 | 10 | cvdtcig | Are you positive? Edit: Shucks just read u Tcloud just made the same terrible joke in [another thread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 3mbrex elon_musk_what_volkswagen_is_really_showing_is cvdrsdz) less than an hour ago. | EatMoarToads | 2015-09-25 15:21:36 | 7 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
bcg7pq | (META) Price change complaint megathreads | This might be an unpopular opinion but I literally feel “I got a minor update” threads are more enjoyable to read than the slew of price change complaints that happen every month or two when Tesla adjusts their lineup. It seems like this has room for moderator intervention to direct towards higher quality FAQs rather than everyone replying with the usual responses every time. | chillaban | 2019-04-12 17:23:04 | 37 | ekqfblk | PSA Tesla changes prices all the time. If you can t handle it don t buy one. | sss179 | 2019-04-12 17:46:41 | 51 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
9f4q5q | (Model 3 Checklist Author) I feel guilty when a Model 3 delivery is refused for small or negligible issues. | TL DR I m starting to feel guilty for writing the widely-used Model 3 checklist. New owners are refusing delivery because of minuscule paint defects that are being taken too seriously. Perfectly good cars are being turned down and hurting production delivery numbers. I m subscribed to and have been a member of r teslamotors for about 7 months I engage with multiple facebook Tesla groups and I see news about Tesla and it s vehicles maybe 30x or more a day. About 1 6 of the posts I see on Facebook groups are about how the poster refused to take delivery because of minor paint defects that are hardly noticeable or hardly visible without a very close look or maybe a weak magnifying glass. Because of this I feel guilty. I guess my message to all new owners is if you really think the paint needs to be redone then get it redone. Otherwise please take my checklist with a grain of salt. Your Model 3 looks perfect now but I promise you it will one day be imperfect. Just enjoy the car as much as you can. You re driving the car of the future. It s a world-class car but it s also the world s best car. Have fun! | tesrella | 2018-09-12 04:43:40 | 284 | e5ttuzx | Hopefully Tesla has adopted your checklist and new owners are getting better cars because of your efforts. Thank you for putting that together although once I saw my car for the first time I completely forgot to use the list. | phxees | 2018-09-12 04:56:47 | 87 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7f0szx | (New?) Model 3 Production video from Tesla FAQ page | https: www.tesla.com support model-3-reservations-faq Might be old news but a few of the sequences look like new content we haven t seen before from design to production and driving. Quick way back machine search shows the Model 3 FAQ page was updated sometime in the last month with this video replacing the older Model 3 photos. Interesting that promotional content like this is being created but intentionally relegated to back pages instead of front and center - the undersell continues. | TheEternalSagan | 2017-11-23 16:42:20 | 61 | dq8p32o | I ve seen it not sure if it has been posted. But worth sharing for those who haven t seen it. | 110110 | 2017-11-23 17:04:44 | 9 | Tesla Model Sightings |
9jic7h | (Optimistic) Breakdown of SEC Suit Against Elon Musk | There s a whole ton of confusion about this so I ve done a little research on what the SEC needs to prove and how likely I think it is that they ll be able to prove it. This is coming from a pretty optimistic viewpoint - I m very much definitely describing one of the best possible outcomes of this. (I m not a lawyer my information is coming from the [Wikipedia article on the applicable law](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki SEC_Rule_10b-5) and the [text of the complaint itself](https: assets.bwbx.io documents users iqjWHBFdfxIU rESU9sUHniuA v0). If you see any flaws in my logic feel free to point them out) & #x200B The SEC is filing this case under the SEC Rule 10b-5. The SEC needs to prove four things in order to win: Manipulation or Deception Materiality In Connection With the purchase or sale of securities and finally Scienter (basically either recklessness or malicious intent but not negligence). I ll go through those starting with the ones that I think will be easiest to prove. & #x200B **(i) Scienter** In order to prove this the SEC must prove recklessness or malicious intent. > 30. Between the July 31 meeting with representatives of the Fund and the morning of August 7 Musk (1) did not have any further substantive communications with representatives of the Fund (2) did not discuss a going-private transaction at a share price of $420 with any potential funding source (3) had a conversation with a private equity fund representative about the process but did not actually contact any additional potential strategic investors to assess their interest in participating in a going-private transaction (4) did not provide Tesla s Board of Directors with a more specific proposal to take Tesla private (5) did not contact existing Tesla shareholders to assess their interest in remaining invested in Tesla as a private company (6) did not formally retain any advisors to assist with a going-private transaction (7) did not determine whether retail investors could remain invested in Tesla as a private company (8) did not determine whether there were restrictions on illiquid holdings by Tesla s institutional investors and (9) did not determine what regulatory approvals would be required for such a transaction or whether they could be satisfied. yikes. I don t know about you but this looks pretty reckless to me. Elon Musk is very well known for being reckless on twitter - this only expands on this reputation. The SEC goes further and talks about Musk s feelings about shortsellers in what I think looks like an attempt to establish malicious intent. I won t even dig into that - even without that Scienter looks to be very well established. & #x200B **(ii) Materiality** In order to prove this the SEC must prove that any false or misleading statements by Musk probably led investors to buy the stock when they wouldn t have otherwise. At first glance this seems like a slam dunk. However there are a few (very small) sticking points. Specifically in order for Musk s statements to be material they must probably have led investors to buy the stock *when they wouldn t have otherwise*. As noted in the SEC in their claim immediately before Musk s statements there was a 17% spike in Tesla s stock price. Those were pretty good times for the stock - the quarterly report was much better than expected the Saudis just bought 5% of the stock and everybody was talking about a short squeeze. While ultimately I m sure that the SEC will be able to establish Materiality (especially with the key word *probably* in there) there is some uncertainty about whether any investor who bought after Musk s statements wouldn t have bought in anyway. & #x200B **(iii) In Connection With the purchase or sale of securities** While I m not totally certain on my interpretation of this (read: the Wikipedia article didn t have a section on this clause) I m pretty sure that this means that the statements were made with the goal of encouraging either buying or selling of the stock. It s unclear whether this was Musk s goal or not. Publicly Musk has said multiple times (including in his response to the suit) that an important goal of his is transparency to all shareholders even the small ones. This was his stated reason for making these public statements instead of messaging exclusively larger shareholders in a private fashion. Apparently he wanted to inform all shareholders at once and thought that it would be unfair to give information to institutional investors but not individual investors. Musk has also made multiple public statements decrying shortsellers. It is possible that Musk s end goal for taking Tesla private was primarily to spite the shareholders however I do not view that as likely. I am tempted to believe that Musk simply wanted to promote a form of egalitarianism among his investors - although he rarely mentions politics he has expressed a preference for exactly that brand of total egalitarianism even at the cost of practicality. (This was most obvious that time he discussed his ideal Mars government.) Ultimately I personally do not expect that this will be fully established but it is a distinct possibility. (For the sake of this post I m going to assume that it will be established as I don t understand this well enough to argue that it won t be established.) & #x200B **(iv) Manipulation or Deception** This is the big one. Did Musk knowingly lie though falsehood or omission to the public? Well at first glance the answer seems to be a resounding yes. While Musk s statements don t appear to contain provable falsehoods they are rife with important omissions. For instance when Musk said funding secured he clearly was referring to how the Saudis apparently agreed to any price so long as it was reasonable . Certainly in Musk s mind a 20% premium (+ $1 to get to 420) was pretty reasonable but it s unclear whether the Saudis would have felt the same way. Even though funding secured (meaning The Saudis are okay with a reasonable price which this is ) isn t technically a falsehood it is certainly omitting a large number of important facts (such as: I m not sure what reasonable price means to the Saudis I m not sure what the Saudis want in return etc). However there is one reason why I m not considering this in the bag for the SEC. The bespeaks caution doctrine serves as an exception to the falsehood or omission rule so long as: 1. The statements are forward-looking 2. The statements contain sufficient cautionary language There is plenty of cautionary language in all of Musk s statements - they are full of phrases like I hope and I m considering . This clause is arguably enough to exempt all of Musk s statements except for the infamous funding secured . Funding secured could *possibly* be considered a forward-looking statement (what Musk meant when he said that was The Saudis who have said they d agree to any reasonable price will say yes to this reasonable price ) however I have neither the expertise nor the inside knowledge to know whether that would work or not. It is very possible indeed almost likely that most of Musk s statements will not qualify as Manipulation or Deception and kinda possible that every one of Musk s statements do not qualify. I d put this one up to how good Musk s lawyers are. & #x200B In conclusion Musk definitely fucked up but I don t think that Musk will be ousted from Tesla. All of these things stand in the way of that: * The SEC has to prove all four of those points beyond reasonable doubt (Musk can hire good lawyers and good lawyers are very good at creating reasonable doubt - and certainly can argue this case much better than I can) * Even if the SEC does prove all four of these points it s up to the judge to award the SEC with all the things it wants * The SEC justifies calling for Musk s removal with a lot of language saying basically Musk will do this again if he remains in charge of any company * If Musk is ruled as reckless instead of malicious and plays up the I didn t know what I was doing I thought the process would be simpler and easier but now I know better card (really if anything this shows that Musk really had no idea what to expect when taking Tesla private) a judge might not see removing Musk from being in charge of any public company ever as justified and instead order Musk to just reimburse damages and pay a (probably large) fine * Either Musk or the SEC needs to be totally unwilling to settle out of court & #x200B (As an aside private lawsuits basically have the same criteria as this one so those will probably go the same way this one goes.) & #x200B **tl dr** The SEC must prove these four things: Musk definitely lied and his cautionary language wasn t good enough Musk s statements caused investors to buy or sell Musk s statements had to do with buying or selling the stock and Musk was either reckless or malicious. The SEC has a really good shot at #2 and #4 they might not be able to prove #1 and I don t understand #3 enough to say either way. In my non-professional not-a-lawyer opinion Musk is probably not going to be kicked out of Tesla but it s a distinct possibility. | SirQwert | 2018-09-28 00:35:45 | 84 | e6rvoly | I want to clarify one point for readers. This is a civil case not a criminal case. In a civil case the standard of proof is preponderance of the evidence not beyond a reasonable doubt. In other words more likely than not is another phrase you will hear. Don t use criminal standards in a civil case. In a case like this it all boils down to interpretation a reasonable person would place on the statements made. The lawyers will likely focus on his intended meaning and his intentions (mens rea) or state of mind and argue that a reasonable person would have interpreted his words as an expression of his desire and not as fait accompli. Any sophisticated investors would know that even if he had an investor or group of investors lined up to take the company private that there were many obstacles ahead including shareholder approval board approval SEC approval and hammering out a contract with the investor(s). Anyone buying or selling based on his desire to take Tesla Private was more likely speculating one way or the other rather than considering that his desire could materialize especially in a short time period. In fact numerous articles at the time stated that it was unlikely that it could be executed any time soon and that it could take years to accomplish. | barjohn5670 | 2018-09-28 02:29:19 | 53 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
8zolhg | (PSA) Don t change your key fob battery while on a road trip | Update: OMG!!!! False alarm it turns out. The reason the fob didn t work is because every battery in the package was bad (all four). I tested the batteries with a volt meter and they weren t putting out 3 volts so I bought another package replaced the battery and it works fine now. PSA still stands since while this didn t happen in my instance apparently it can happen since Roadside was like oh yeah this happens sometimes. We ve seen this before. Original Post: Ran into a bit of a snag this weekend with my car. Took a short road trip up to Silverthorne Colorado this last weekend to attend the wedding of a friend. Not a particularly long trip from the Denver Metro area (70-80 miles or so up in the mountains) but with day trips from town to town it was far enough that we needed to hit the Supercharger up there. Fun trip and mountain driving in an S is great. All that hill climbing torque and AP on mountain roads... Anyway on the second to last day we were there the range was getting lower and lower on my key fob when approaching the car. I stopped at a hardware store to pick up a CR2032 battery to replace it popped the old one out and the new one in. When we went to use the car later that night (to actually go to the wedding) the car didn t respond to the fob at all. I managed to get the door open via the mobile app but reception was pretty spotty and by the time we got the kids loaded into the car I had lost connection and couldn t start the car. Placing the key fob in the cup holder or above the 12 volt plug didn t have any effect on the car detecting whether the fob was present. I called the roadside assistance number and they told me that sometime the fobs can lose their programming when the battery is swapped and that the service center would need to reprogram it. If I were home it wouldn t be a big deal but this happened when we were 75 miles from the nearest service center. Cell reception was acting very spotty with my phone my wife s phone and my wifi hotspot all dropping out in spite of the number of bars we had (all AT& T). I eventually was able to start the car using my tablet and connecting to the condo s wifi after about 15-20 minutes of tinkering with different ways to try to get the mobile app to connect. The only help that roadside assistance offered was to tow the car to an area with better reception which I declined because that obviously would have meant we d miss the wedding. For the rest of the trip I checked cell car reception every time I came to a stop to make sure we didn t get stuck but since we were in the mountains it was a big concern. Had I known that trying to replace the battery in the fob could kill the fob I would have left it until we got back from our trip. | Byshop303 | 2018-07-17 20:06:46 | 52 | e2kebk0 | technology is so fucking annoying sometimes. Sorry this happened to you | srslywteff | 2018-07-17 21:28:46 | 16 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
71987s | (Question) Can I purchase a CPO in a showroom that I saw online? | So I have been looking at the used inventory mostly 85 or above . If I go in a showroom and tell them what I want will they help me find it and do they offer any more discounts than the listed price? | globalcitizen91 | 2017-09-20 06:21:44 | 10 | dn94dlt | Yes. No discounts though. | theonefoster | 2017-09-20 08:23:42 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
iaqh97 | (Rant from Korea) Tesla REALLY needs to create a CCS Combo 1 charger adapter | I live in South Korea where CCS Combo 1 has been designated as the official fast-charge standard for all (public) fast-charging stations since late-2017. Yet Tesla refuses has no plans to create a CCS Combo 1 to Tesla adapter. While there are some CHAdeMO stations these are planned to be phased out eventually and new stations don t have them. This is a big problem since Tesla s charging network is minuscule over here (only 32 supercharging stations in the whole country) while the number of Tesla cars has almost tripled in the first half of 2020 alone. You might be saying That s no biggie just stop being cheap and get a home charging unit. You re dumb for trying to rely on superchargers fast-chargers for your daily needs anyways. but unfortunately that s not a solution for me and the vast majority of Koreans because OVER 60% of Koreans live in apartments or condos with shared parking space so you can t just install a charging station because you want to. And no one wants has the time to drive to a slow-charging station to charge for 5+ hours. And even though I actually happen to be one of the more fortunate ones because I live in a very new apartment complex with several EV charging stations I still have to compete with other EV drivers for the slow-speed chargers. So if I get home late all spots are taken and means no charging for me that night. All this could be avoided if Tesla would just make a CCS Combo 1 adapter so I can use the public fast-charging stations! Theoretically I could get a CCS Combo 1 to CCS Combo 2 adapter then a CCS Combo 2 to European Tesla adapter then finally a European Tesla adapter to US Tesla adapter but that s a stupid solution to a very simple problem. There s absolutely no reason Tesla can t make a CCS Combo 1 to US Tesla adapter. | edwardrha | 2020-08-16 11:01:18 | 119 | g1qb1bp | Wasn t there a TMC post about someone from Korea coming up with a working prototype? Edit: link https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads dc-combo-for-usa-port.202623 | shadowfoxmi | 2020-08-16 12:37:00 | 35 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
f2uet8 | (Re-Post) If you bought a M3 in 2019 make sure to read the fine print before submitting tax returns. | This was posted about two weeks ago and my Tax expert at HR block did not file my form correctly. I had explain how the credit works on the form. Thank you so much djacrylick for your post. If you use HR Block for tax returns you need to enter the FULL $7500 under the tax credit (not the actual amount of $3750 $1875) because the percentage is automatically deducted for your return. https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments eudwqj if_you_bought_a_m3_in_2019_make_sure_to_read_the | FearAlones | 2020-02-12 17:09:36 | 271 | fheqdk1 | Yep I entered $1875 for mine and didn t stop to think why my return was like $1400 short. Thankfully my federal was denied and I got the chance to modify it and send it in again. | QoLTech | 2020-02-12 17:15:57 | 58 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
5uj5gn | (Serious) Cons Rep GOP Tesla fans - why? | I am a conservative but also a huge Tesla fan to the point I think it even annoys some people how much I talk about it. This for the most part flies in the face of the republican way to support an environmentally oriented company Anyone other conservative republican GOP fans out there? Some reasons: -Ability to throw some solar panels and battery packs on the house means no longer reliant on OPEC oil -You have control of your car house if you are solar battery powered (fawk big govt and government maintained energy monopolies) -Merica(American made) I want an American company leading the way in EV tech -Tesla is the next real tech leader -Elon is damn inspiring in his get er done way of business he doesn t take no for an answer he thinks tunnels or hyperloop or BEV vehicles or solar are the way of the future so he goes out and makes it happen -Good looking cars | therendevouswithfish | 2017-02-17 00:43:13 | 39 | ddugvav | I m progressive but I agree with everything you said. Let s lead the world in ev tech and production. Let s lead the world in battery tech and production. Let s stop sending money to Saudi arabia. Let s help Europe stop to stop sending putin money. Outside of the effects of global warming if unstopped ie making the near equator uninhabitable doing so will help reduce the fighting in the middle east. For example the pipeline going through Syria that russia wants would not be a thing to fight over. Let s produce good will by helping small countries move past fossil fuels in the near term. I honestly fail to see why these aren t bipartisan positions in the world today. We need to move away from fossil fuels asap. It s not a matter of if but when and we can start today and be ahead tomorrow. | Barron_Cyber | 2017-02-17 01:45:36 | 17 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
bscktu | (Speculation) Did they skip most of CA for 2019.16 to prep for Smart Summon? | Disclaimer: this is total speculation. & #x200B If you have a TeslaFi sub it provides you with the full list of cars under each version which shows that barely any CA Model 3s have received 2019.16 when globally more than half of Model 3s have the update. & #x200B They also started pushing out a 2019.5.11 branch to a few cars majority of which are in CA. Could they be skipping 2019.16 for CA and preparing those cars to receive a different wave (after 5.11) including Smart Summon for some reason? Maybe a limited rollout to test the waters some more? | eidjcn10 | 2019-05-24 04:24:39 | 26 | eolmxl8 | Got this email today after the autopilot failure during my roadtrip two weeks ago. Car updated to 16.2 this afternoon. edit: I am located in CA https: i.imgur.com 2JknPq9.jpg | mahkus11 | 2019-05-24 04:47:39 | 12 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
bxtq8d | (UK) Which Home charger? | We re obsessively thinking about all things EV right now in preparation for ordering our Model 3 later this year. One sticking point is which charger to buy. The Tesla charger looks great and I like the additional functionality but as it s not available for the £500 OLEV grant or the £300 Energy Savings Trust grant in Scotland we re looking at other options. What did members here go for? Some chargers are ugly as sin and I ve struggled to find a good online comparison. Would love to hear your experiences and see pics of your chargers! | dst87 | 2019-06-07 11:56:22 | 12 | eq9n2v3 | https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1yn6ucSOfLadob2wzZQLGYZPFwtegYoEFsepUPMa9vr4 edit#gid=0 | TonyHoyle | 2019-06-07 13:00:59 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
jkqiln | (UPDATE!) Model 3 Screen InOp and Resets don t work | So I figured I d give an update on my adventures with my Model 3. It s been a bit of a rollercoaster. [Original Post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments jhnro7 model_3_screen_inop_and_resets_dont_work ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) I drove it in to the Rocklin SC without an appointment on Monday. I stopped by the SuperCharger and let it charge for 15mins before driving on the freeway and I m assuming it was charging based on the pulsing light on the charging port. I used Waze as a Speedometer and was paying attention to my signaling. I got there and walked in and told the AMAZING Service Representative my issues and initially they seemed to disregard it as something I could live with for 2 weeks. When I explained that I had less than 1 900 miles on a 2020 Model 3 things changed. They pulled up my car and it showed that it was in Vallejo CA. Thats where I was on the last successful restart so they knew something was wrong. I was given a rental S 75D with unlimited charging and told they d contact me later for more information as they had appointments to deal with. They let me know that my main computer was fried and needed replacing. I was excited to get my car back on Wednesday as expected & then they learned theres a MAJOR connectivity issue and engineering can t track down where the issue resides but the issue has already caused the nee computer to mess up. They don t know what caused this issue but assured me that this has NEVER happened on a Model 3 and rarely on the S and X. I jokingly asked if I could get a replacement and they said that that had already been discussed and was still a possibility. | shrubrooster1 | 2020-10-30 04:47:56 | 19 | galhi32 | I would go for the replacement. I ve had mine in multiple times for autopilot features randomly becoming unavailable under clear conditions then park and they are magically back it still isn t fixed. Last time it was there they checked every wire found a loose harness and assured me it was resolved... | zombiearghsforthee | 2020-10-30 13:11:56 | 11 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6obi27 | (Update 2) Model S 90D overheat issue | Original post: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6juvmj update_to_a_comment_s_90d_overheat_issues Well it s a relatively hot day here 98-100°. I parked at a public charger and went on a 90 min hike up the Flat Irons in Boulder CO. About an hour into the hike I get a notification on my phone saying charging was interrupted. When I get back to my car I have a handful of warnings same as before on a hot day saying car can t drive car needs service car won t turn on etc. I am unable to remove the charger adapter (j1772 adapter) for the public charger luckily I was able to disconnect from the charger itself. I contacted tesla roadside assistance and was on the phone with then for 30-45 min without being able to resolve the issue so I m currently waiting for a tow truck. This is at least 4th or 5th time taking it into service for this issue and a handful more where it resolved itself overnight without having to take it in. I m really contemplating lemon law. Any advice would be appreciated. I have about an hour+ to wait for the tow. | gwoz8881 | 2017-07-19 21:03:33 | 27 | dkg3s2c | You might no longer be covered under the lemon law at a year and a half in I think Colorado s law only applies for the first year. It s still BS but that may not be a viable route for getting this rectified. Based on your previous posts it s time for them to replace something substantial instead of just messing around with the charge port. | tuba_man | 2017-07-19 21:20:20 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
a94b0q | (VIDEO) Model 3 on Autopilot navigating Golden Gate Bridge and threading the Toll Booth... | Hi All I took my Model 3 Long Range RWD out to test some new Autopilot situations. One of them is AP in closer quarters and well the Golden Gate Bridge...why not? :) First of all I had my hands on the wheel at all times. The cameras are on mounts. The Dash Cam is an iPhone XS and the Display Cam is a Go Pro Hero. The biggest surprise is how the Autopilot recognises the really badly marked lanes and actually threaded itself through the Toll Booth at the end. Can t wait to get my hands on Nav On AP. Happy Holidays to you all. Here s the link: [https: youtu.be W-BokuJTXvo](https: youtu.be W-BokuJTXvo) | robby761 | 2018-12-24 11:38:40 | 17 | ecgoefi | Sometimes it s safer to go over the speed limit if it means staying with the flow of traffic. Especially if you aren t in the right lane. | keco185 | 2018-12-24 16:20:26 | 15 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
4xzhck | (serious) is bird shit on a panoramic roof really annoying? | I m mostly thinking forward to the model 3 and the all glass roof - can anyone with an S with a glass roof or an X with a panoramic windscreen chime in? I love the look of it in photos but I live in an area with a ton of seagulls and my daily commute takes me through a forest so my car roof getting covered in bird shit is a fairly common occurrence. On a normal car this is fine but I imagine it would be really obvious and really distracting on a glass roof... | Randomd0g | 2016-08-16 13:28:27 | 16 | d6joqox | I get it on occasion... but I also have OptiCoat Pro Plus on the car so a damp rag wipes it off easily when I get home. You think that s bad I parked under a tree at a co-work spot a few months ago. When I came out at the end of the day it was repulsive! Apparently a hawk caught a small rodent and ate it right above the car. There were guts bones a pile of something that didn t agree with the hawk and a ton of shit all over the pano. I went straight to a DIY carwash. Every time I looked up on the way I about puked all over myself. In related news: I never park in that spot anymore. | swamplander | 2016-08-16 14:05:19 | 13 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
6juvmj | (update to a comment) S 90D overheat issues | Here is an update to this comment https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6ihce4 is_the_southwest_heat_wave_having_any_adverse dj6oa8e that some people wanted I got my car back last night. They had it from Friday morning until Monday evening. The car failed 3 times total last week when it was scorching hot. Friday the service center said they sent the logs to engineers in Fremont (or maybe Palo Alto for this team?). Since it was the weekend they weren t expecting to hear back until Monday. They couldn t come up with a cause but they decided on replacing the charge port. This is the 3rd time in 1.5 years of owning the car that they replaced the charge port connector. I ve had this same issue since I got the car with no fix. I guess I ll have to wait until it s hot again for the car to fail once more... | gwoz8881 | 2017-06-27 18:57:15 | 29 | djh66h8 | Strange especially since you said it was only 95-98 degrees. Something is wrong with the cooling system. If the battery is having that kind of trouble and overheating it could be causing damage. I d ask Tesla to do a battery analysis as well and possibly even ask for replacement if the issues have caused premature degradation. I know warranty doesn t cover degradation but if the cause is due to another warranty issue I d at least ask for the diagnostic info. | dieabetic | 2017-06-27 19:10:53 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
jx9dzg | ***UPDATE*** Out of Warranty Subframe Crack | After discussing the situation with everyone who commented on the previous post and presenting the argument to Tesla service they goodwilled the fix. Just wanted everyone to know that Tesla did right here! I just want to be clear - this car is amazing but has been riddled with quality issues. I understand that early adoption comes with some risks. However how the company addresses those quality issues says a lot about them. The service dept. listened to my argument and were really understanding. No confrontational attitude like some mechanic shops. In the previous post someone asked me if I still loved my Tesla and my answer was yes. Even before they goodwilled the fix. I am even happier now. | vkeshish | 2020-11-19 19:27:28 | 968 | gcv179c | I have always found that Tesla Customer Service is amazing once you are able to get it. Most complaints are on the fact that you can rarely get a hold of customer service to begin with. | Ihaveamodel3 | 2020-11-19 19:47:17 | 219 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9jcasw | **UPDATE on part found on passenger floor of my Model S after a service visit | Original post here: [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 97sto2 is\_this\_a\_part\_from\_my\_model\_s ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 97sto2 is_this_a_part_from_my_model_s ) Back in for a follow up service and I asked the technician. He looked at if for a second and said I know what this is! It s a hinge pin for the glove box. He popped off a piece of trim and put it back in in under a minute. & #x200B Mystery solved! | BigDaddySlim | 2018-09-27 12:08:57 | 72 | e6qautc | I like that the top comment in your original post is > Its an Alignment dowel. Put it in the glove box and not worry about it. | afishinacloud | 2018-09-27 13:07:27 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6bcn7n | *Idea* Supercharger Automated Wait List | I ve owned my S60 for about four months now yes... it s amazing! Went fully down the rabbit hole... Solar on the house Level 2 charger Powerwall 2 (install soon hopefully). The only time I ve ever had anxiety was at the northern San Diego supercharger. I need to fill up to make it home to LA and couldn t charge anywhere else in range. We started the very cordial lining up process. Nods to other people as they drove in shrugged and fell in line. Then in drove let s say someone who wasn t nice. No eye contact with the other cars waiting in line and immediately took possession in a place clearly designed to jump on the nearest available charger. Hello anxiety... do I say something? Do I just wait for what was clearly going to happen and then say something? Do I let it go? Thankfully the next charger to open was directly in front of my car so I didn t need to act but this got me thinking. These cars are amazing pieces of tech they know if your car connected to the supercharger is over it s free limit of charge and to be assessed a fee? They know when you car is idle and can send a message to your phone. What if they instituted a wait list program. Here s my thought: You pull up to a full supercharger location. A message pops up on your screen: Get in line for next available charger? Y N After you press Y it shows the number of Teslas waiting in front of you. When it s your turn it tells you which stall 1B to park at. Then when you connect your car to the charger it only starts charging if your car was the one allotted that charger space. If you tried to move in on a charger without getting in line it would give you a message like There is currently a line for charging please vacate the charger and join the queue. I know this would be a real issue for ICEing spots but I think it would be something people would really appreciate. No more line that we all hope people will adhere to. Thoughts? | drsleak | 2017-05-15 19:47:04 | 38 | dhlj3zb | That s an interesting idea I like it. I tend to prefer the honor system but resource contention is a bad place for that. I d add: * geofencing so that you can only join the queue while you re on the premises * have a reasonable time limit so that if you ve left your car (or you don t have full self driving) the spot can go to the next person in line instead of sitting empty for too long. The driver who missed their turn just gets bumped one back in the queue. (Reasonable compromise between keeping usage optimized without punishing the user who missed their spot) * Add the queue length to the in-car supercharger display so you ve got a good idea of what you re getting into before you arrive. | tuba_man | 2017-05-15 20:04:16 | 21 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
61js84 | *Question* Early Model 3 reservation holders that were planning on getting dual motors before finding out they are 6-9 months out. | Are you planning on waiting for the D? or ordering RWD to get a Model 3 earlier? Going through this in my head as I am an early reservation holder in the US(midwest) that sees a fair amount of snow. Tax credit is also in my mind. Wanted to see what everyone else s thoughts are. | SensationAzn | 2017-03-26 04:01:50 | 26 | dff1qgf | I m waiting for pricing. Once I see that I ll decide what my priorities are and weigh them accordingly. I wanted the D but waiting for it does take away the appeal somewhat. | VoIPGuy | 2017-03-26 04:09:29 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
hjq9nw | +5 mph setting coming back soon for 🛑 + 🚦 | See title ^ + Summon bug on first initiation getting fixed soon Yay 5 mph! 😝 | TheTeslaBirdie | 2020-07-02 04:24:40 | 140 | fwnw944 | What s up with the emojis? And is there any source? | WizzKal | 2020-07-02 04:40:05 | 65 | Smart Summon Limitations |
ke94lj | -18celcius this morning Model 3 door took multiple tries to close correctly?? Is this a defect or normal? | Basically the passenger rear door wouldn t close properly. I would slam the door with a bit of force and it instead of closing properly it would stop with like a inch gap. Every time I tried again with a bit more force the gap narrowed until finally I was able to close it. This is a bit worrisome and feels clunky. Is it something I should do a service call about or it s part of the Model 3 cold weather experience? | alexmtl | 2020-12-16 13:25:24 | 16 | gg11osy | Call service if you want but -18°c can cause all sorts of weird problems for any machine. | kmkmrod | 2020-12-16 13:31:42 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
emnqes | -40°C Weather approaching | Anyone able to share how well their Tesla (preferably Model 3) does in extreme cold situations? I am thinking of getting one but where I live is about to hit a week of -40 to -45°C weather and I d love if anyone was able to share their stories or knowledge of how well a Tesla would work in these situations. | Liz3rdWiz3rd | 2020-01-10 07:38:25 | 41 | fdpw9st | I ve got one in Edmonton. The cold eats range but it s not a hassle. Just drove from Edmonton to Banff in -25 | TheKrs1 | 2020-01-10 07:58:55 | 31 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8l1l3s | ...... im a huge tesla fan but ... service :( | This is becoming brutal. I have yet to have a service experience that comes back positive. In the last 10 months I ve been in 5 times for various things. Most recently 2 weeks ago I sent car for annual service gave them 4 days to complete it while I was out of town. I live 2h away from nearest service center. It doesn t get finished. Turns out the broke one of my rear deflector lights while there and needed to order new parts so my car was there for a week. When I received my car it was a mess on interior it had not been properly cleaned. The winter tires were bagged with these flimsy thin bags with holes in them and put on top of the white seats. The seats were covered in dirt from tires. (When I gave the car I had placed all tires in not on the seats). One of my key fobs battery had died (I assumed) and when I got the car back it still didn t work. Was it even tested? Was battery replaced? Was anything done? Final straw I had never had any issues with laying down back seats and today the first time after service as I m getting ready to go on a bike trip my passenger side back seat will not fold down. They had apparently changed some pannel on the passenger side (damaged at previous service appointment) and the seat was stuck. 30 mins on phone with tesla mobile service we can t fix it. They need it back in service center 2h away. I don t know what to do it s very frustrating because it is a brutal trend everytime I take the car in for service it comes back with new issues. Now let me be clear I love my model X and love what tesla is trying to do. Yes they gave me a loaner last min yes they delivered my car to my work after the service and yes they even waived my service fee. But that s not the point. I just want good quality service done properly and I am willing to pay for it done properly and to the level expected for a 6 figure car. What is the solution here? Are we just to suck it up? I really look forward to the day where the quality of the service matches the vision of the company and that we can enjoy these vehicles for what they truly are meant to be. | mysterimandds | 2018-05-21 15:18:27 | 184 | dzc4o98 | Tesla service is like the rest of the company understaffed and overworked. You get what Elon pays for which is not enough people and not enough time to do the job effectively unfortunately. | tuba_man | 2018-05-21 15:39:58 | 115 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
8utzsp | .24 upgrade Tesla Wall Charger maxes out at 32 amps now instead of 48 | [Discussion] For the Model 3 https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads 24-upgrade-tesla-wall-charge-maxes-out-at-32-amps-now-instead-of-48.121303 From this comment: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads summon-anyone-2018-24-1.119144 page-4#post-2839427 Is anyone else seeing this? | spudlime | 2018-06-29 15:26:16 | 22 | e1i85ff | To be clear you re talking about the Model 3 right? The Model S and X had an option for high-amperage charging and I doubt they ve just decided to revoke it. | majesticjg | 2018-06-29 16:34:58 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
oadr50 | 0-60 doesn t tell the full story let s put Plaid Model S s 60-130mph time in perspective. | On the surface a 1.99-2.2s (depends on how you measure it) 0-60mph time is absurdly quick but doesn t seem like a material leap from 2.2-2.4s achieved by previous record holders (918 Spyder Model S Performance Taycan Turbo S etc). But what Tesla truly achieved with the Plaid powertrain is how much quicker it is at higher speed acceleration. So I m doing a short list of comparing the Plaid Model S to some of the quickest accelerating cars ever built in history EV and ICE alike. Note: I used magazine test time whenever possible for all the cars below and drag strip timeslips if magazine test numbers are not available and finally user submitted Draggy Vbox times (this is when it gets unreliable). Test: 60-130mph 2011 Ferrari F1: [~2.6s](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=VGNRaNVDCTU) (purely for reference current F1 cars are much faster even but I can t find data). 2021 Rimac Nevera: [3.39s](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=QXe4X3rYIPw) **Lol WTF BBQ I guess sets a target for the future Roadster to beat** 2021 Bugatti Chiron Sport: [4.1s](https: www.caranddriver.com news a35105452 bugatti-chiron-tested-quickest-car-ever ) (I don t think we ll see a pure ICE production car exceeding this ever again). 2021 McLaren 765LT (ECU tune): [4.16s](https: youtu.be nlFwDuG6CrU?t=301) (only non-stock car on this list but the modification is minimal and only shows how much McLaren sandbagged their turbo cars like usual). **2021 Tesla Plaid Model S**: [4.71s](https: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-s-plaid-test-data-analysis-milestones-records ) 2021 McLaren 765LT (stock): [4.76s](https: youtu.be AIT4gMy-DIw?t=283) 2013 McLaren P1: [4.8s](https: www.motortrend.com news mclaren-p1-how-i-set-the-motor-trend-production-car-record ) (this was mind bogglingly fast when it came out 8 years ago) 2021 Ferrari SF90: [4.97s](https: youtu.be -WQrWrPMFGc?t=472) 2013 Ferrari LaFerrari: [5s](https: www.caranddriver.com reviews a15107243 ferrari-laferrari-hypercar-tested-review ) 2017 McLaren 720S: [5.37s](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=tRjuQXhBnU4) (for a mainstream supercar this was a performance landmark when it first came out 4 years ago) 2020 Ferrari F8: [6.21s](http: www.dragtimes.com 2020-Ferrari-F8-Tributo-Videos-31450.html) 2021 Porsche 992 911 Turbo S: [6.7s](https: www.caranddriver.com reviews a32065924 2021-porsche-911-turbo-s-drive ) **2019 Porsche Taycan Turbo S**: [8.1s](https: www.caranddriver.com reviews comparison-test a30799498 2020-porsche-taycan-turbo-s-vs-2020-tesla-model-s-performance ) (the previous king of production EVs) **2020 Tesla Model S Performance (Raven)**: [9.4s](https: www.caranddriver.com reviews comparison-test a30799498 2020-porsche-taycan-turbo-s-vs-2020-tesla-model-s-performance ) (This is why people called the old Model S a one trick pony of 0-60. It wasn t competitive against actual ICE performance cars back then). **2018 Model 3 Performance (Pre-power boost)**: [13.1s](https: www.caranddriver.com reviews a36329678 2019-tesla-model-3-performance-by-the-numbers ) Edit: Added bonus a comprehensive list including many modified vehicles: https: www.dragtimes.com vbox-60-130-times.php As one can see the Model S Plaid is cream the crop among even the quickest super hypercars in terms of 60-130mph time. Obviously there is a lot more to an overall vehicle s performance than just a couple cherry-picked metrics but what Tesla achieved here is absolutely remarkable. An interesting perspective is how far Tesla has improved upon their own car. The Plaid is literally **twice as quick** at 60-130mph as the previously quickest Tesla and that s almost downplayed by everyone since the 0-60 number made for better marketing material. The future of automotive performance is electric. The overall performance crown will be worn by hybrids in the very near future and then it will transition to pure BEVs as battery tech gets better and better. By then ICE sports cars will be enjoyed in the same manner as high end mechanical watches not because they perform better than an Apple Watch or even a cheap Casio but because of other subjective and emotional factors. | cookingboy | 2021-06-29 18:05:51 | 684 | h3gxr73 | I mean... the game winner here is always that literally every one of these competitors on the performance front is an exotic hypercar costing 5-10x while model s is a comfortable family sedan. | kemiller | 2021-06-29 18:46:38 | 220 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6qssh9 | 0-60 mph in 5.6 vs 5.1 seconds | for a person that is clueless when it comes to cars: is there a noticeable difference going 0-60 in 5.6 vs 5.1 seconds? | importantseasameseed | 2017-08-01 00:49:17 | 16 | dkzpsd0 | Yeah it s about half a second. | run-the-joules | 2017-08-01 00:50:53 | 77 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
72gzkd | 0-60 of inventory S75 back to 5.4 sec? | I remembered most S75 inventory was 4.4 sec? | Iamveryimpressed | 2017-09-26 01:11:23 | 25 | dnii3qy | The change took place for units built after late June. I m sure they have lots of inventory vehicles built prior to that. | vw2005 | 2017-09-26 01:56:43 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2iynxo | 0-60 time for P85D a little conservative? | I know most high horsepower cars are limited by traction for 0-60. But the model S has great traction and has been able to punch above its weight class when it comes to acceleration up to a certain point. With the amount of extra horsepower torque and traction of the P85D I would expect some car mags(like motor trend) will dip into the high 2s for 0-60. I saw the charger hellcat(similar horsepower) dipped into the twos with slicks and that was 3.5 0-60 normally) I m really curious what the P85D could do with slicks all around. Maybe 2.5... | noisySilence22 | 2014-10-11 18:20:48 | 10 | cl6op40 | I also wonder about the insane amount of traction control that is possible when using electric motors due to the fact that it s easy to put an encoder on them measure split second differences in position across all 4 motors determine slip and re-adjust the power to the motor near-instantly. I could imagine that such a feedback loop could occur in a few thousandths of a second. Of course part of this may be exactly how they got to where they already are. | xamomax | 2014-10-11 18:31:28 | 8 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
59seic | 0-60 time on slicks? | Since the P100D manages to do 2.5 seconds to 60 on stock tires would adding slicks to it make it even faster due to the added grip? Or is this already the absolute maximum that the battery can supply? | CreamyLeemur | 2016-10-28 03:30:49 | 10 | d9bbhh6 | Traction limited to at least 30mph so yes increasing grip would decrease times. | Dr_Pippin | 2016-10-28 12:31:36 | 7 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
6r5ah7 | 0.99% APR for New Model S or X Owners | For anyone looking to purchase a new Model S or X Alliant Credit Union is offering 0.99% APR for 72 months from August 1 2017 to September 30 2017! http: alliantpromos.org tesla | lGhenl | 2017-08-02 16:20:42 | 70 | dl2edu3 | Now if they would only add the Model 3 to that promo! | Cyris28 | 2017-08-02 16:28:49 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8jy57i | 007 in Access Code Dialogue box on TMo3 | This might be a little proof that Model 3 is using Model X and S code base.. I mean I know it s generally accepted that Tmo3 does but I had not seen this posted yet. If you hold down the Tesla T on the top of the MCU for about 8-10 seconds.. You get a dialogue box asking for an access code.. If you enter in that box 007 nothing seems to happen but then I noticed that in the controls menu the driving tab is now labeled diving ... I can t find any other reference to the James Bond submarine car anywhere else other than that Driving changes to Diving. Likely just an overlooked change in the Tmo3 Firmware that wasn t fixed for Mo3 a remnant from Mo S From what I understand on Mo S you get a lot of changes in the MCU with a reference to James Bond Submarine car... This is FW v.2018.18.3 | RogerRabbit1234 | 2018-05-16 20:17:39 | 11 | dz3h4p4 | You dont see any thing because the changes are all in the suspention tab. | jonas_man | 2018-05-16 21:19:32 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6juotl | 1 000+ miles with my new factory 2017 Model S... | And I m not very happy. I hate to even say that and I ve thought long and hard about this but here is why: I have had SIX extremely scary and random hard braking episodes with TACC and AutoSteer engaged and I m shook up at this point. I bought this car to feel safer and now I m just jittery as all hell right now. The most recent episode happened on Highway 58 a few miles outside of Barstow CA. Luckily no one was behind me or to the side because the car went from a comfortable 70mph to slamming on the brakes to drop it down to 45mph. And like I ve said this happened a few times before and I just brushed them off. Now this is serious. I m 500 miles from home and I still have a few hundred until Vegas and I m afraid to even get back on the freeway. I have an appointment with my local service center next week but this is extremely frustrating. I wanted this to be the car of cars but now I miss my old Dodge Caravan. Someone please tell me this isn t just a fluke? Edit: My AC has just gone out. In the middle of the desert. | SuperPCUserName | 2017-06-27 18:29:43 | 12 | djh4a64 | If there seems to be something wrong with TACC and AutoSteer and it s concerning enough that you have a service center appointment to see what s wrong why are you still using those features? Just disable them and keep driving? | jetshockeyfan | 2017-06-27 18:37:56 | 133 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
k41b1o | 1 10 scale Hot Wheels Cybertruck delayed until February 2021 | Hot Wheels is giving the full authentic Tesla experience with their 1 10 scale Cybertruck. Guess I have to buy ~~myself~~ my kids something else for Christmas. [https: driveteslacanada.ca cybertruck hot-wheels-tesla-cybertruck-delay ](https: driveteslacanada.ca cybertruck hot-wheels-tesla-cybertruck-delay ) | goldenduke | 2020-11-30 18:05:39 | 56 | ge64vo9 | Well I guess your kids are getting the authentic Tesla product launch experience! Maybe there s some sort of life lesson to incorporate in here.... perhaps mixed with a shiny next gen console or something :D | chillaban | 2020-11-30 18:08:35 | 43 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
526jgu | 1 4 mile time for P100D? | So Tesla s official stats for the P90DL are 2.8s 0-60 10.9s 1 4 mile. The quickest I have seen it tested is 2.6 10.8. Now Tesla says the P100DL will do 2.5s 0-60 a .3s improvement. So what do we think it will do in the quarter? Will the .3s improvement translate to the quarter so 10.6? Doesn t seem too crazy. And do you think some testers(maybe motor trend) will get quicker 0-60 times than 2.5? Perhaps 2.4 or 2.3? | noisySilence22 | 2016-09-11 02:32:23 | 23 | d7hqxdz | Depending on how much more power they really got out of it better runs might be possible with some help (i.e. grape juice etc) at a track. | Zorb750 | 2016-09-11 03:02:25 | 12 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
ce6di0 | 1 Year Old LR RWD M3 with Sport Rims - Battery Range Concerns | Looking for a crowd source thoughts my range attempts. I actually reached out to Tesla Service and a tech wanted me to preform multiple discharges to 20% then charge very slowly then back to 80 or 90% as preferred. Stated that the battery stops using a part of the battery over time if you don t discharge into the mid-range areas enough. I know about the discharge to below 10% for a recalibrate but this? Eh. My M3 ever since the 16.x has lost quite a bit of range instantly . I m currently on 20.4.2 with no change from 16.x as some reported. Prior to the upgrade infact the night of I had 324 on the dash. Now I charge to my 90% charge number of 282 283 every time now. First Attempt was charged up on July 10th over about a week s usage. 202miles used from 90% to 18% at 213wH mile with 43kWh used. 53miles reported remaining charged to 90% 283 as reported by dash on overnight charge. 4.8miles per kW (some sentry and over heat cabin protection) Second attempt was on July 12th over just 2 days ish. 211miles used from 90% to 17% at 236wH mile with 50kWh used. 53miles reported remaining charged to 90% 281 as reported by dash on overnight charge. 4.2miles per kW (no sentry and no overheat protection) Third attempt was on July 18th. 207miles used from 90% to 18% at 232wH mile with 48kWh used. 58 miles reported remaining charged to 80% 265 as reported by dash on overnight charge. 4.3miles per kW. To me this seems very out of line with what the LR should be getting. Efficiency seems well within line but feels like the battery is missing 5-10kW of available usage to get even the real world number on my number. Prior to the update never felt I had any issues getting to 320+ pending I did resonable driving. Now it seems like a pipe dream. Effectively getting 250-265 @ 90% assuming it doesn t drop like a rock once I dip down. If you take a advertised range of 325 60miles are suddenly unobtainable. Around 18% drop? A preface as well I ve done two other tests outside this where I dipped to 5% and 10% then changed to 100% respectively to try a recalibrate prior to getting Tesla involved. There was only one other time after the 325 update that I charged to 282 until this trouble mentioned and a recalibrate fixed it by the morning (driving to GA charged to 90% at supercharger then full once I arrived to GA by morning 323). [Update] Tesla told me basically tough cookie operating within spec and comparable vehicles as age mileage and models. What a crock. | Klownicle | 2019-07-17 01:48:15 | 14 | etzdwke | I m pretty much in the same boat. So your not alone. | swanny101 | 2019-07-17 02:27:53 | 11 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
kccewu | 1 Year of Free Supercharging For Model 3 s and Model Y s Delivered by End of Year | Tesla authorized North American sales associates to offer free supercharging for all undelivered Model 3 s and Model Y s from now through Dec 31. I confirmed with my delivery center. Excludes SR SR+ M3. Anyone that takes delivery today on will get free supercharging for 1 year from day of delivery. Awesome! [Tesla Offers One Year Free Supercharging](https: electrek.co 2020 12 12 tesla-offers-one-year-free-supercharging-to-incentivize-deliveries-record-quarter-attempt ) | Max021103 | 2020-12-13 15:26:53 | 11 | gfpqpyh | I ve had my model 3 for about 10 months I ve never used a super charger. Am I in the minority? Just curious. | JustSomeUsername99 | 2020-12-13 17:01:15 | 6 | Issues with Tesla Referral Program |
korycp | 1 big Problem and 6 small ones with my made in china SR+ M3 | When I pushed the button and bought a Model 3 in October I didn t know I bought a made in china model 3... Then Tesla sent the documents and it became clear why I payed almost 7 000 usd less than my friend. Btw I live in Europe. Still I trusted Tesla s advisors that told me the car is even better than the Fremont one and cheaper and you can charge to 100% semper etc etc. The car has problems and a really big one: The lfp battery is not convincing me. My charging speed and supercharger is... bad (40-50Kw with 10% battery left preheated 5°C no other cars charging V2). It takes forever to charge... The other problems are less relevant and some only concerning my country \- Tesla account for spotify not working: Solutions I found: make yourself a premium account or try hard reset. I went for the premium account as I really like spotify \- Headlights: where I live your daytime running light need to be turned on all the time. On auto they automatically turn off when I drive in sunny situationts \- TPMS: it took time but now I know which one I have (the old ones). Still if you need be sure to check which one you have before buying some (i.e. check the manual) \- Updates: sometimes they are just great.... sometimes not. I started losing 10% overnight after the last update (**2020.48.26) ** the one that farts even more. Then I found out it was due to activated scheduled departure. Solution: just inform yourself before updating and always charge your car before an update. \- the MIC is heavier. I don t know if I m the only one but driving a lot on mountains I feel like driving a heavy car. So glad brakes are working well... \- Autopilot speed limit recognition: where I live it works bad recognizing only about 80% of limit signs. I hope this will improve with updates as speed tickets are expensive where I live... & #x200B So I helped my wife to make a video about our [Problems](https: youtu.be b8nBF8wQmL4). What do you think? I really appreciate the car I smile everytime I have to drive somewhere... and cry when I have to supercharge. Guess the only thing I can do for the charging speed time at superchargers is wait in the best scenario just for an update... | Ancalima9015 | 2021-01-02 05:49:45 | 42 | ght6m5o | I m not sure these are MIC specific issues other than possibly the Supercharging issue. This is something they will likely resolve with updates in the future once they get a feel for how this new-to-Tesla change works. Similar things happened with the US made version where initially it couldn t charge beyond 150kW and eventually they pushed an update to go up to 250kW. The rest seem like software settings issues and would likely have been the same if you had a Fremont vehicle. Unless you re comparing it to another Tesla that you ve had the weight thing is just an EV thing. Due to the batteries they *are* heavy cars. | Matt_NZ | 2021-01-02 08:06:25 | 44 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
eo3zon | 1 phase or 3 phase for all electric Tesla home | I m curious how many new builds out there have installed 3 phase over single phase for heavy electric homes. We re building a new home soon. Here s what we re planning: - Location: US - 15-20kW solar array - 2 powerwalls - 100 amp tesla wall charger system Other appliances: - 2 20k btu heating cooling minisplits - 4 electric ovens - 2 electric range tops - Metal wood workshop (occasional use) - 2 heat pump domestic hot water tanks - Pool heat pump - Well pump Lighting: all LED (4400 sq ft including garages). I could get more specific if necessary but the solar EV chargers powerwalls and number of appliances might be enough to give you an idea of magnitude. | mjezzi | 2020-01-13 13:17:58 | 33 | fe86tpa | 3-phase would be entirely unnecessary. 240V is better for everything you ve described and is often necessary for AC units. Tesla chargers will give higher wattage than with 208V. Unless you re trying to run some specific industrial equipment regular home service is usually the better choice. | Sillence89 | 2020-01-13 13:46:50 | 31 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
7qe5nb | 1 week experience with model 3 compared to Model S | I have put in a week worth of driving into my Model 3 as of today. There are things I like and things I am really disliking. On the like side: The drive is superior to my 2013 S unquestionably. Curves are tighter handling is more precise. Stereo is a definite upgrade from the S (Had the upgraded tech package on the S). The 310 mile range is a nice bonus (not have taken in long distance yet). Rear seats are spacious. The interior feels very well made. No rattles or sounds though the cabin noise feels slightly more than the S. I m liking the keyless entry. One less thing to carry in my pocket. I do not bother carrying the backup entry cards with me just use my phone. has worked flawlessly. On the dislike side: I am hating the center console. In particular the layout of the GPS really sucks IMO. I was so used to the heads up display on the S that I would put my nav on mute and know what to do next. But the Nav panel on the 3 is on the far right side and unlike the S it is not tilted to the driver. So you really have to strain your eyes to see what it is saying. I wish I could just tilt the screen. I have now made multiple driving mistakes because I put the Nav on mute. I have to unmute it. I hope there is a software fix coming soon to move the nav turn by turn to the left side of the screen. I am really hating this. I have no idea how this could ve passed a usability review. On a related note I am used to the nav cutting out the radio when it is giving instructions but right now it does not. A minor irritant. The Nav - and software in general - is buggy to boot. I have had to reboot the console thrice already. For 2 days it insisted that I was in Page Mill road in Palo Alto when I was 20 miles from there. Reboot fixed it. I received a call while listening to the radio. No more radio after the call hung up. Another reboot. The autopilot is really experimental and not to be trusted much at this point. Seems to do fine on straight roads and part of it is getting to a point to trust it. I have learned not to turn it on if you are in the exit lane - it is unsure if it should exit or not (chooses to exit often) and you have to correct it. Today I turned on the indicator to exit (by changing lanes) and it got completely confused moving between two lanes. I had to take over. Bottom line: I am very wary of the autopilot. Disengage prior to exiting. Inconsistent lane changing. It seems the autopilot requires you to jiggle the wheel every now and then to show that you have hands on your wheel. I like to rest my elbow on the door and hold the steering wheel on the left - it has no idea that I am in fact holding the wheel.. so I need to jiggle it every now and then or the display starts flashing blue. I am not a fan of the door handles thus far. I loved the auto presentation of handles on the S. This is far more difficult to get used to - my wife who has small hands care even less for it. For those with Model S the trunk and frunk space is far more restricted as might be expected. But they are well designed. I am still trying to get used to the UI which is significantly different and feels less intuitive at this point. Overall it is a very satisfactory experience other than the nav which I am really disliking. I hope they give an option soon to move the turn by turn directions to the left side soon. edit: clarified that I meant trunk and frunk space are smaller Edit 2: also scheduled charging is not available currently. Edit 3 3 weeks in: Software is not just bad - It is an absolute POS. I reboot the center console about every other day due to various reasons - GPS flaking out audio stops working phone calls do not go through. I am now carrying my keycard around because this morning it refused to move to drive (car unlocked ok). Had to use the key card to make it. Climate control does not turn off - keeps going and chews through the battery. Always manually turn off climate control. | srram | 2018-01-14 19:55:48 | 186 | dsoi4c8 | > I do not bother carrying the backup entry cards with me just use my phone. has worked flawlessly. That seems like a terrible idea to me. Your phone s battery could die. You could lose or break the phone. You could forget your phone in the car. Way too many scenarios where you would be stuck if something happened. I don t see why you wouldn t just keep the credit card key in your wallet. | ilikethefinerthings | 2018-01-14 20:42:38 | 64 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
jjqwn1 | 1 week of FSD videos: where we stand and where we are going | With the FSD beta out there for a week and videos popping up on an hourly basis I wonder what you all think of the future of FSD and TSLA. So far I think Musk s hype was mostly warranted and considering that what was released is still an early beta version I can t wait to see what this looks like once it s ready for prime time. The amount of “things” that the cameras see and how accurately it sees road markings cars signs speed limits traffic lights bicyclists people etc.... is looking really promising. Many of the videos on YouTube right now are recorded during night hours and it s truly incredible how well the cameras pick up information. If they can get the AI neural nets to improve the software this is looking like Musk s master plan Part 2 (robo taxi) could really become reality a lot sooner than many critics think. I feel like the market is currently not really reacting to the FSD news neither positive nor negative. I d like to discuss the current state and the future of FSD. | [deleted] | 2020-10-28 16:23:01 | 247 | gae9b2d | I think what we ve seen so far is really promising. There s a lot more work to do but this is the first time in a while I ve felt optimistic about Tesla s self driving ambitions. Hopefully we will see “feature complete” on a large scale sometime in 2021 and then they can move forward with the validation and improvements necessary to achieve Level 3 and 4 in the not too distant future. | TheKobayashiMoron | 2020-10-28 16:38:08 | 84 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
9da1pj | 1 year Model S 100D ownership review | https: imgur.com gallery ZgZzssN Quick summary before I get started with my review: I originally reserved a Model 3 in May 2017 but quickly gave up on that since I figured European deliveries wouldn t really happen before the Q4 2019 (still my best guess). So I bought a model S instead (see: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 71ttee yet_another_model_3_spot_opened_up ?st=jlph38x7& sh=6d6940d9). I ve had the Model S 100D for about a year now (give or take 3 weeks) and wanted to post a review after a year of relatively intense use :) * Quality of the car: I didn t really notice any panel gaps on delivery nor afterwards. I did however started hearing some rattling noises rather quickly but had that fixed in my first Service Center visit. I also had to get my sunroof fixed since that actually stopped working properly after 3 days of ownernship... of course it had to stop working when demo ing to the inlaws : . I have this weird crack-ish kinda sound coming from my Dashboard that has returned recently (after being fixed) but I ll just have them fix it next time I visit... it s not a big deal really. I m going to schedule my first real maintenance appointment in a few days and also need them to replace my MCU which has yellow borders all around it (even when turned off). That appears to be a pretty common issue so I expect them to fix that under warranty and am hoping that I actually get the new and faster MCU that they ve been shipping with new cars for a while now. I know some of you are going to say that this kinda stuff shouldn t happen with a 1-year old car but let s be real: Tesla is going through a lot of Growing Pains and they mostly want to do right by their customers so these issues are relatively minor. The only thing I worry about is paint quality... I ve had quite a few occasions where the front of my car was basically an insect-graveyard. I never had any issues with that on my previous cars so I didn t always get that stuff cleaned up soon enough. The consequence of that is that I actually have small spots on the front of my car that I will never get off (it s really gotten into that paint). Rest assured as soon as i spot a few dead insects on the car i hose them off quickly now... * Cost: This car cost me 120K euros new... however the last time I put 40K km on a car in one year it cost me a little over 4K in Diesel for that year. These 40K have cost me 1.8K in electricity costs (and Belgium is one of the more expensive countries when it comes to electricity...) so that s actually quite good. The more kilometers you do the better the picture looks... at least if Tesla s promise that they require less maintenance down the road holds up. My previous Audi A5 required about 3000 euros in maintenance costs in year 6 and 7 combined so if Tesla indeed is cheaper in maintenance in the long run this car will be super cheap between year 6 and 9 with my yearly km-average. My calculations say that this car isn t more expensive than an Audi A6 (which is about half the price) as long as you keep it for 6+ years... I m very interested to see how it turns out in the long run. * Fun: Regardless of cost... I fucking love this car. *Any* excuse to drive this thing is good enough for me. My wife has actually learned to be cautious in saying things like oh we re out of .... because the next thing she hears is my pulling out of the garage to go and get what we re out of regardless of whether we need that particular item right now or not. Of my 40K kilometers this year at least 6K km were spent on completely unnecessary roadtrips that I just wanted to do. I still love driving this car to work every day and I even feel a bit bad about not being able to drive it as much as usual tomorrow since I ll be working from home (rare occasion). This completely irrational enjoyment of this car has led me to buy 95 shares of TSLA because I truly believe that at least in the long term it ll really be worth it. And I m usually a play-it-safe kinda guy when it comes to money! These cars are truly special and i m particularly happy about all the positive reviews about he Model 3 even when it comes from people that have cosmetic issues with the car. Because really the only issues that you hear or read about are cosmetic right? I actually see myself replacing this car with a P3D in the long run (but I really want to keep this car for 7+ years) since I will require less space for child-seats and toddler-related-stuff. * The future: I really think Tesla is sitting on gold here... I m very interested in every Tesla competitor that is coming out but it seems that they all have less range per km mile than what Tesla is able to do. The projected production numbers from the German brands are also really small compared to what Tesla is going to deliver in Q3 so I really do believe that Tesla has a 3 to 4 year head-start on any of the German giants. The only thing that the TSLA stock needs for the next 5 months is profitability in Q3 and Q4 and for Elon (as much as I admire the guy) to get the fuck off Twitter and get more sleep and some non-work-related hobbies (and sleep counts!) | ralinx | 2018-09-05 19:33:05 | 68 | e5gtkoy | completely unnecessary roadtrips As P100D owner I submit this does not exist. All excuses for driving are sufficient to get in the car and have fun. Sometimes I don t even have a destination until I am on the road. | duke_of_alinor | 2018-09-06 00:14:01 | 15 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
ii5u7i | 1 year as a Taxi in Spain: 12 times cheaper | Spanish video. Driver says Tesla model 3 is about 0.5€-1€ 100km vs 12-13€ 100km 115cv Diesel. Purchase cost 48.000€ (60K - 21% tax) vs 20.000€ He has saved about 10.000€ over a year. Only maintenance was changing tires. Only con is the door openers for old people. [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=cRJGNaZ\_XYg](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=cRJGNaZ_XYg) [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=qU7bbzxhqK4](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=qU7bbzxhqK4) part 2 | nosoytoni | 2020-08-28 12:06:13 | 333 | g34xau1 | gas subsidy in the US is killing the air quality health issue and waste of tax payers money. Most people do not know of the subsidy and think it s cheap and drive gas diesel guzzlers vehicles-how pathetic! | tashtibet | 2020-08-28 14:20:28 | 42 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
kbwiem | 1 year free Supercharging | Just got a call from my rep Tesla is offering 1 year free supercharging for M3 MY if you take delivery before 12 31 must place order by end of today 12 12 to make the year end delivery deadline. I was going to wait until January to place MY order should I just order now? Update: Tesla is trying to incentivize taking delivery before end of the year to push up their sell numbers. If you have placed an order and will be taking delivery with the next 3 weeks by 12 31 you will get free supercharging for a year. Update2: Here is an article from Electrek.co (https: electrek.co 2020 12 12 tesla-offers-one-year-free-supercharging-to-incentivize-deliveries-record-quarter-attempt ). According to a quote in the article this incentive excludes the M3 SR but to my knowledge right now you can only order the SR+ from Tesla.com so not sure if SR+ would get this incentive. | airkonditioned2077 | 2020-12-12 20:41:30 | 151 | gfkzvj0 | As someone who has owned two Tesla s with unlimited free supercharging I can say unless you drive a LOT away from your home then free supercharging isn t really all that great. If you do drive away from your home often then yes by all means it s a fantastic deal but take some time to honestly think about your driving habits. My first Tesla (S) I road tripped constantly and put 35k miles on it in 2 years and about 25K of that was free supercharger miles. I drove everywhere. Then my supercharging speeds got nerfed (look it up) and I traded in the car. Now I have an X and rarely drive it far enough away from my home to need supercharging. I wish I d not bought the X for free charging as soon afterwards they updated the X to the Raven versions. I d rather have waited. edit. I posted this lower down but here s some hard data on using superchargers as your primary charging vs charging at home: Not a perfect example but here s some data: I have about 16 000 miles on my X. Total charging is about 8 650kWh since I bought it and of that 3 700kWh of it is from free supercharging. Compared to the price of electricity at my house I ve saved $332.84 using free superchargers. It s not a great example as if I did pay for supercharging I d be paying a much more expensive rate (whatever Tesla charges you to use them). And also I mostly only supercharge while on the road away from my house so really charging at home wouldn t be an option. But for someone who doesn t have home charging but does have access to a local supercharger it will give you a sense for how much you d be saving. Basically about 35-40% of all my charging is using free supercharging and the bulk of that is from a recent cross country trip I took that was about 6 000 total miles all supercharging. | -QuestionMark- | 2020-12-12 20:46:27 | 98 | Issues with Tesla Referral Program |
rrpqsp | 1-Year Free Supercharging is Over Here Are The Numbers and What I Learned | I ve had my 2021 MYLR for exactly one year now. At the time of purchase I had 1 year of free Supercharging and I definitely used it for most of my charging. I downloaded the TezLab app a few days after purchase so I could track some data. I m in Southern California where electricity and gasoline are both very expensive. Here is what the data shows (I think): Total Miles: 14 437 mi Total Energy: 4 109 kWh Avg. Energy: 285 Wh mi * 84.5% of my total energy intake was from Supercharging. * I received $1 243 in free Supercharging. * I got 110mpg and burned 130gal equivalent. * At $4.50 gal in SoCal a 50MPG car is equivalent in fuel cost if using Supercharging prices only. * Even if I paid for Supercharging I would have saved $722 compared to my previous 30mpg vehicle. * If I charged exclusively at home at the lowest rate in my area of $0.19 kWh I would save $466 over exclusively supercharging and $1 188 over a 30mpg vehicle. * Average Supercharger Max Power was 133 Kw. * Estimated max range is now 305 mi vs the original 320mi. I know Sentry Mode Pre-Conditioning Cabin Overheat protection and other systems use energy not related to the movement of the vehicle plus efficiency losses while charging. So this data isn t a perfect representation of those factors. If I didn t use those auxiliary systems I m guessing my total efficiency would be higher. I m not a numbers guy so don t be surprised if most of this info is incorrect or the calculations are wrong. A FEW THOUGHTS ON THE CAR AFTER 1 YEAR: * Not being able to charge at home blows. * Autopilot is the greatest gift to humanity. I use it 90% of the time. * I look forward to charging at superchargers. It gives me a legitimate excuse to stop get food or use the restroom or check emails texts. * I love how excited people are to see the car because they ve heard so much about it. * The car s unique quirks bring a lot of joy to people of all types. There is something for everyone to love! Fart noises movie watching drawing Santa mode megaphone great storage excellent acceleration and more. * I played the Christmas Light show for my mother who then started crying. She said she was so happy to be alive in an era where technology was capable of such things. I then started crying as well. Is this the greatest car ever made? No. But I can confidently say that it brings the most joy to the most amount of people well over any other car which feels priceless. 10 10 would buy again. Here is a link to my spreadsheet with all the data plus some fun calculations: [https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Dz98898RmJGbWlAx1LaTYRDbND2Jq1Jj68lEdlRggG0 edit?usp=sharing](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Dz98898RmJGbWlAx1LaTYRDbND2Jq1Jj68lEdlRggG0 edit?usp=sharing) | VoxMaquina | 2021-12-30 02:16:34 | 523 | hqi0tjb | Headline tomorrow: “Teslas makes mothers cry.” | tablepennywad | 2021-12-30 03:24:14 | 186 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6m4o70 | 1.5 Model 3s built every day for the rest of the month? | Assuming they at least hit the 30 cars built by the 28th (I would assume closer to 50) that means will be pumping 1.5 cars a day. Very exciting! It is amazing how quick this is going to go. Great team and great effort on everyone involved. | sheltz32tt | 2017-07-09 01:01:02 | 39 | djyvpnf | I m oddly at peace knowing production model 3 s are now being built around the clock and production rate is increasing with every passing day. It is going to take months probably a year or more for most people to notice anything changing but I think it s going to be very fun to watch the enormous disruption unfold over the next 5 years. | WhiskeySauer | 2017-07-09 01:26:01 | 77 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dywqen | 10 Hour drive my only option for service | This may be true in other states where selling Teslas is illegal but here in northern Michigan my only apparent option for service is a 10 hour round-trip drive to Toledo Ohio. This the net result of trying to arrange service using the Tesla app. It refuses to send a Ranger. Now that service can only be arranged using the Tesla app it appears to be impossible to talk to human being about this at a Tesla service center. I ve tried and failed. If I could I d also ask if there are any certified third-party repair shops in Michigan where I could get my car serviced. It s getting hard to justify recommending people buy a Tesla in this state Given this near impossibility of getting service. Anyone have this experience? Anyone know where I can talk to a human at Tesla about this? | GMSteim | 2019-11-20 04:26:10 | 21 | f8412s7 | A human will eventually text you a few days before the appointment. This is when getting a ranger will be discussed. | hkibad | 2019-11-20 05:15:56 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |