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Sometimes I go whole days listening bored, half asleep I won't say anything that's worth a thing to me One day, suddenly, time took a turn that once felt so brief I blinked to see polite ghosts fading quickly What begins as an unguarded train of thoughts slowly can become an addiction to the slumber of disconnection and the resonance of memory that no longer has a shape but keeps you numb through the hours till gone is another day Be aware, my darling these things I say I mean are just traces of something I long to feel again I see our time expand in the air almost forcibly, spreading thinner till it dissolves completely
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This song struck me as being exactly about an eating disorder. I suppose it's hard to see unless you've been through it. Particularly the lines, "An addiction to the slumber of disconnection" and "keeps you numb through the hours till gone is another day," capture the feeling of an eating disorder perfectly. I wonder if anyone else can see that connection? HLipon May 13, 2010   Link1 Reply Log in to replyThere was an error. @HLipi see that connection completely. agreed.
Sometimes I go whole days listening bored, half asleep I won't say anything that's worth a thing to me One day, suddenly, time took a turn that once felt so brief I blinked to see polite ghosts fading quickly What begins as an unguarded train of thoughts slowly can become an addiction to the slumber of disconnection and the resonance of memory that no longer has a shape but keeps you numb through the hours till gone is another day Be aware, my darling these things I say I mean are just traces of something I long to feel again I see our time expand in the air almost forcibly, spreading thinner till it dissolves completely
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**I take this song as a girl who is trapped in love with a lover she no longer cares for, and she has met someone new who she is slowly becoming addicted to. *(This is just how I see the song; not what is necessarily right)VERSE 1;Sometimes I go whole days; Listening, bored, half asleepI won’t say anything that’s worth a thing to me*(Obviously means that most times she is “out of it”, or detached emotionally from herself)One day, suddenly time took a turn that once felt so briefI blinked to see polite ghosts fading quickly*(one day she met someone for a brief moment that made the ‘ghosts’ of her past lovers fade- or made her forget about them) ***OR; if the lyrics are; "I blink to see, but light goes fading quickly." as ginasf says; then this could mean that she was blinded by the beauty of this person when first seeing them. CHORUS;What begins as an unguarded train of thought slowly can become an addictionTo the slumber of disconnection*(She has a feeling about that new person and soon these thoughts come on so regularly that it’s like she is addicted to them. “To the slumber of disconnection” can perhaps mean, having these feelings until the moment the previous lovers disconnect, or break up.) And resonates a memory that no longer has a shape, but keeps you numb*(These new feelings bring on memories of her past lover, that no longer have meaning and rather than feeling love or happiness, she’s numb)Through the hours still gone’s another day. *(wasted so many days with these feelings)VERSE 2;Be aware my darling, these things I say I meanAre just traces of something I want to feel again,*(to her old lover; she is addicted to this new man and she means it- these feelings are traces of how she used to feel about her old lover, and what she wants to feel again.) I see our time expand in the air almost forciblySpreading thinner ‘til it dissolves completely. *(She sees their time as lovers slowly coming to an end and soon their love will dissolve like the air or fog she describes as expanding and spreading thinner)**t
Sometimes I go whole days listening bored, half asleep I won't say anything that's worth a thing to me One day, suddenly, time took a turn that once felt so brief I blinked to see polite ghosts fading quickly What begins as an unguarded train of thoughts slowly can become an addiction to the slumber of disconnection and the resonance of memory that no longer has a shape but keeps you numb through the hours till gone is another day Be aware, my darling these things I say I mean are just traces of something I long to feel again I see our time expand in the air almost forcibly, spreading thinner till it dissolves completely
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It seems to me that this song is about depression. "Sometimes I go whole days, Listening bored, half asleep. I won't say anything worth a thing to me." Apathy and lethargy are perhaps the hardest symptoms of depression to deal with, since they have already defeated any effort to pull yourself out of it. There is mention of an addiction to the "slumber of disconnection," which can refer to pulling away from your loved ones as well as the habit of sleeping away your days, or at least spending them inside your own head. Time goes achingly slowly, and you survive only on the memories of a time when you weren't numb. And this can go on for days and weeks and months. You find yourself creating a fantasy out of what once was, out of the simple act of feeling something, anything. Of course, this is just my interpretation. audiomasochiston January 03, 2014   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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okay, i understand that Maynard's lyrics often can mean multiple things. but this is a song that seems very clear to me. he is talking about a man who is obsessed with strippers, or a particular stripper. and every time he goes to see her dance in the strip club he loses control of himself, looses any self esteem he may have had, and feels the compulsive urge to throw his "dollars" at her fantasizing in his head that he would ever have the chance to have one kiss, or one taste of her. the name of the song being "magdalena" is obviously being used because mary magdalene was considered a prostitute. and in some ways strippers are prostitutes. they take off their clothes and dance in a sexual way to turn men on in order to make money. so basically they are selling their sexuality which basically is a form of prostitution. when he is saying that he is willing to 'sell his soul' or his 'self esteem' 'one dollar at a time' is obviously referring to the way men in those places use their dollars to show their appreciation of the stripper. as i said he is either obsessed with strippers in general, or one in particular. it does tend to suggest that it is one in particular because he is saying that it is rare to see such an 'earthly goddess' that he feels compelled to 'throw this dollar' he is also looking at her body as if it were a 'moving temple' or 'holy altar' again referring to his exaggeration of feelings for her to the point where he has placed her in the realm of the divine. to me it is obviously just a mockery of the kind of men that go to these strip clubs regularly and end up cheapening themselves, over this stripper whom he just so desperately wants one kiss or one taste of to the point that he loses control and throws down his money at her feet almost as an offering one would bestow upon a goddess. of all of their songs, i think this one is pretty much an easy one to understand. nephilim101on June 05, 2011   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Violent Retard--- first off, to tell us to "just stop writing mindless theories" beats the purpose of us commenting on this site in the first place. And the fact that you say that its' "Magdalena" and not "Magdalene" is completely redundant. Like NewAgegnostic said, Magdalena was "just one of many names for her." You want us to open our minds? While you're at it, open yours... and as for what you said about all of the names, I don't think Maynard would disappoint us by crypting up with names restricted to people in his life. The point of all of this is that he left it up for interpretation, and that INCLUDES prostitutes, strippers, Jesus and the Bible. You'd be surprised how relevant some of this stuff is. This song's incredible, yes, but in many different ways. Rjinaon February 24, 2009   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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By the way, I'm just wondering about where you guys heard about Jesus coming on to Mary Magdalene and stuff. I'm a Christian and as far as the Bible says, He never came unto her and I don't think He would. I don't want to be one of those annoying Christians who gave us a bad name by going and pointing accusing fingers at anyone who says any little thing. I'm just geniuinly curious. Where did you hear about stuff like that? Beowulf_Xtremeon April 30, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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obviously this song is about not wanting to do all of this to the stripper but he lost his self-control because its force was just too hard to draw away from...something else to think of: mary magdalene in the bible... a friend of jesus, a prostitute, but due to her devotion she was pardoned by jesus... OBVIOUSLY maynard does not believe in christianity, it has been seen with tool and APC songs, but the fact that Magdalena is spelled similarly to Magdalene, is something to ponder upon...Jondude11on December 16, 2001   Link4 Replies Log in to replyThere was an error. @Jondude11umm its the same thing with judith, judith-judus...mary magdalene-Magdalena obviously maynard knows a bit abt Christianity he just doesn't believe in it...there is a bigger meaning to this song....johnathan01on January 19, 2010Also, interestingly, 'magdalena' means 'muffin' or 'cupcake' in Spanish. So Maynard could totally be on a diet and there's like this cupcake he wants and it's holy and teasing and shit. ...or not. My point? There's no one meaning to this song. Or any APC song. Personally, I think this is about a girl he loves and respects so much that she's almost holy to him. Hence the biblical references. Also, Jonathan, Judith is NOT an allusion to Judas. Maynard's mother's name was Judith Marie. The song is essentially to do with his struggle to understand how her religious faith strengthened after she became paralysed. Have you heard Wings for Marie/10,000 Days by Tool? That's about after she died. She was paralysed for 27 years, which is roughly 10,000 days. MintChocChipon April 01, 2010searched the terms Black Madonna and Magdelena in google, this what turned upThe Black Madonna Mystery SchoolAn Invitation from the Magdalena to the Black Madonna Mystery SchoolBlessings of the One Love unto you beloved heart,Lovingly embracing you now within the rich velvet black mystery of the Mother’s womb, we offer the invitation unto this sacred place, this meeting ground — where you may be anointed with the opportunity to journey with us — d
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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you can't say "obviously" when referring to apc or tool. that could possibly be one meaning, but there could be so many more. the beauty of these songs is that you can interpret them for yourself and give them a more personal meaning. lenaon March 05, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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i always got from this song that he is wanting this girl, and that he is undenialby obsessed with her, dont shoot me if you think otherwise, its just thats what its meant to me, and its gotten me thru some really rough times with all of that shitKdog30001on April 17, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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It should be "lovely goddess" and not "earthly"I see a lot of people saying it's about a stripper, maybe. But when I first heard the song, I think it's more about some one who is in love with a person and is willing to do anything for a kiss, a touch by the other person. x_Tyr_xon August 27, 2008   Link1 Reply Log in to replyThere was an error. @x_Tyr_xit's about a stripper - maybe x1000. the first poster was right about that. i think to read anything more into it, one would have to not actually read the lyrics, or perhaps not know what a stripper is, or be in painful denial - like a woman/fan who couldn't accept that such an emotionally powerful song was inspired by a woman hocking her flesh. e.g., i thought "hooker with a penis" actually had something to do with sex before i read the lyrics. that one is equally clear.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Rjina - Yup ure right, after all this is the purpose of this site and all. I wouldn't be writing some made up shit, MJK just said it. And let me just remind you that the lyrics to "Judith" are refering to his mother and the song "Brena" is about his ex-wife. I think this was the original idea of "MER DE NOMS". I'm not saying we shouldn't be interprating it in different ways, after all MJK is a great writer. and yeah - I still don't believe it's about a stripper or "Mary Magdalene". good nightviolentretardon May 25, 2009   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Just because Maynard doesn't agree with Christianity, it doesn't mean he can't make Biblical allusions in his songs. In fact, that's probably why he does, to create a controversial dogmatic point. hallusidogenon February 03, 2010   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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i thought it was about how when people have faith in something, they don't realize that they blindly surrender everything, and magdalena (in the song, not anyone particularly) was a representation because she was irresistable..wrheyaon March 13, 2010   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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It's a bout sex"Overcome by yourMoving templeOvercome by thisHoliest of altars"What's the name of his vineyard? Merkin. What's a merkin? Look it up...and desire and the power of the "Moving temple" "Holiest of Altars" think anatomy folks. It's the power of the Puscifer... Sometimes if you look too deep you miss the obvious. FLWBon January 15, 2012   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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i don't believe u have the right to suggest that Maynard does not believe in Christianity...he may not practise it but he still devotes some time into the practise...but the song itself to me is simply trying to say that Jesus pushed himself onto Magdalena...Jesus new that she was a "Black Madonna" but he still none the less came onto her... Aspect Of Demiseon March 26, 2002   Link1 Reply Log in to replyThere was an error. @Aspect Of Demisesee "judith" by apc.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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yeah lena, im sorry, i usually dont (especially for me since im a fricken finatic).. there are certainly other interpretations but this is the one i saw very quickly. yeah aspect of demise i agree...like ive said before. i key to APC is taking mythology and applying it to life and applying it to life's force. im sure we've all felt like we know our morals but our sexual urges give into them. we've all felt like "killing" someone metaphorically, or just that killing is the only way there is, and the other numerous things about APC...Jondude11on April 12, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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i guess, aspect of demise, that you're right that i dont have the right to just say that. but with the numerous tool songs and with judith, he doesn't seem to believe it. he grew up in a very religious family, and i do not believe he believes in it, but i shouldnt make generalizations like that, trueJondude11on April 17, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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The song is about the Rennes-de-Chatau and the Magdelene/Isis cult or Goddess worship. The idea is that M. Magdelene is the sacred whore and you can reach salvation through sex. The Rennes-de-Chatau is a temple dedicated to her but it is far from Christian. sevenaynon April 24, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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This song is about obsession. When you're just going insane over someone or something. Don't jump to conclusions! It's not necessarily about a girl thought it very well could be but it could also be about a hobby or a material thing. Beowulf_Xtremeon April 30, 2002   Link1 Reply Log in to replyThere was an error. @Beowulf_Xtremegoddess has strong implications that are gender specific. Though it could also be a spiritual thing, and we use female words for ships and guns and etc. But i'm going to go ahead and assume its a girl, and so will i guess most people. Obsession is defiently there though!
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I've looked everywhere in the Bible where it mentions Mary Magdalene and not ever does it mention anything or give any sign or clue of Jesus coming on to her. Why would he? Are you sure you don't have this mixed up with something else? I think I've heard of other religons where the believe something like that about Jesus and Mary Magdalene but as far as Christianity and the Bible go, Jesus never came on to any one. Beowulf_Xtremeon May 01, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I totally agree with Beowulf_Xtreme, I really don't know where you could have got that Jesus pushed himself onto Mary Magdalene. There is nowhere in the bible that says this. I know that they were close but not in a sexual way, Jesus was never interested in that sort of relationship with her or anyonetrinity_neoon May 03, 2002   Link1 Reply Log in to replyThere was an error. @trinity_neoJesus banged Mary, get over it, he was really only a horny guy. And who really cares, they are all dead and gone anyways. leave it alone geez.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Thank you, Trinity_Neo, why would Jesus do that anyway? I believe He is the son of God and he was perfect, he was only on earth to fulfill his purpose and a sexual relationship wasn't part of that. If you disagree or don't think Jesus is the Son of God then that's OK, but I just had to say this. Beowulf_Xtremeon May 03, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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~NiGHTSFTP~, I'm sorry you feel the way but there really is no reason to lash out at people's beliefs like that. There is really no point and only causes only harm to people which is not a good thing. I'm advising you for future purposes as a friend that whenever you disagree with someone, keep it to yourself or so say so kindly. Beowulf_Xtremeon May 20, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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This is straight from the website:--MAGDALENAMusic & Orchestrations by Heitor Villa-LobosLyrics & Adaptation by Robert Wright & George ForrestBook by Frederick Hazlitt Brennan & Homer CurranOpened September 20, 1948 at the Ziegfeld Theatre, (New York) and ran for 88 performances. SynopsisAct IAlthough the librettists indicate "about 1912" as the time of the action, the story seems to have a timeless quality, legend-like, a "long ago and far away" aura. However, the actual action of the piece covers only a short span of less than a month, and the opening sequence is set in a South American jungle clearing in the late afternoon in Puerto Hondo in Colombia. "The Jungle Chapel" is composed of three brief separate numbers. Men grind grain, women weave at a loom, children braid chains of flowers, and young boys and girls flirt with one another as they pursue their chores. Nearby is the chapel. Conflict erupts over a carving of the Teru bird representing the pagan aspect of the natives' lives, but Padre Jose welcomes the carving as a good omen. The young and beautiful "jefa" Maria (we might think of her as the jungle princess of the tale) is the leader of the primitive people but a faithful follower of Padre Jose's Christian religion. She bridges the two cultures and sings of the good fortune of a bright future the Teru brings: "The Omen Bird." Padre Jose is about to leave on a journey to the missions down river and instructs Maria to protect the shrine of the Madonna. A brash and handsome young man (perhaps a bit too arrogant to fit the role of Prince Charming) arrives on his charger: a dilapidated jalopy of a bus. The bus sputters and wheezes to a halt and a half-dozen passengers (rum bottles in hand, no doubt) exit in panic. Having survived a difficult trip made hazardous by the driver Pedro’s reckless driving, the passengers pay homage to the statue for saving their lives, as Pedro sings "My Bus and I." The passengers level their complaints about the ride, the driver, and the vehicle--"That prehistoric monster!" "Th
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Mary Magdalene was the prostitute who first saw Jesus after his resurrection so maybe the Magdalena Maynard is talking about brought him back to life, not literally but in some way...Harry Manbackon May 29, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Hey guys! I think I've found something here! I was just watching the interview with Maynard and Billy on the APC official website and I noticed something Maynard said. When being asked about his feelings about people getting bottleg copies of the cd off the net or downloading it off of Napster and stuff like that, he said something like "Those people are thieves and it's just wrong. For a band that's just starting off, you need to sell like half a million records just to get everything paid off. People don't know how tough it is for bands. The money comes back slowly. It comes a dollar at a time." This probably wasn't exactly what he said, I'm just paraphrasing but I know he said the last part: It comes back a dollar at a time. Maybe he's talking about something along the same lines in this song. Maybe Magdalena is in fact a metaphor for something else . . . maybe the art of their music. That could work: he could be saying he's overcome by the beauty of the music in the first verse. Then: so pure, so rare to witness such a beautiful piece of music that he's lost his self-control and will spend the little money he makes from making cds to make more of that beautiful music. He'd sell his soul in the writings he puts in his music just to get another taste of it. He was a witness to that beautiful music, the art long forgotten. So beautiful that he's driven to it like some sort of black Madonna. Or. . . . It could be from the perspective of a fan who's addicted to APC's music and would spend all their money, spend their life obsessing away over the art of their music. Well, that's a possible theory. Just giving something to you guys to think about. Beowulf_Xtremeon May 20, 2002   Link1 Reply Log in to replyThere was an error. @Beowulf_Xtremedude you are way off.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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somehow my post got deleted from yesterday. oh well, i'll repost, THIS IS HUGE!!! I was looking at a poster with about 100 titles of musicals on it and one was called Magdalena. So I did some research on it. you're not going to believe this! the play is about two lovers set on (what i think is) a fictional river called Magdalena River. there, there's a statue of a madonna (not the 80s singer). i looked at the song list of the musical and one of the songs names is "guarding the shrine of madonna" and another is called "the madonna's return"... obvioulsy "one taste of you my black MADONNA" comes to mind... i found the information at this site: musicalheaven.com/m/…i will now post what the site says so not everyone has to go to it, tell me what you think - if there's any correlation to Magdalena by APC. Jondude11on May 27, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Whatever interpretation you put on it, I used it for the near-literal sexual tension, sexual desire, driving the words. I sent it to a girl, and she took notice. Anyway, with Maynard, lyrics are wrapped in ambiguity. This we know as fact. So multiple meanings are expected to be drawn. Codeineon June 14, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Does it ever occur to most of you, that these fucking songs, or anything in life for that matter can have some other meaning or purpose? Stop pretending or acting like YOU know what the songs were written about and concentrate on what they MEAN to YOU. 2thesnon June 14, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Go with Jondude11's idea. Magdalena is the name of a fictional river that was apparently the most beautiful river in the world, and it was hard to leave when you got there, or something like that. I remember vaguely staying awake in English class to listen to it. As for Beowulf...that is a very very intelligent synopsis. Kudos. I'm now torn between what I originally thought it was about to what you think its about. Detrimenton July 08, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I know this was a while ago, but Maynard is anti-christian because if you listen to the song "disgustipation" he makes fun of sermans by saying how stupid they are with the whole thought of "the cries of the carrots" and "let the rabbits wear glasses", which try and say save the carrots, which is a silly idea. Also, in the backround there are sheep making noises while he is giving his "serman", this is trying to show that christians are sheep. Another example is in eulogy when maynard say "come down, get off your fuckin cross, we need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr" which shows that Jesus died for nothing almost. That should be something to think about when you are wondering if Maynard is anti-christian or not. LesFolloweron July 19, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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maynard isnt against christianity per se i think. hes been interviewed about this many times and he usually says something to the effect of hating those who turn a profit from religion or use it in a way to manipulate people. kinda like that icp song (why the hell was i listening to that shit?) when they make fun of those false healers who yell "demons BE GONE!" and make people on the shows pass out. AndreLePateon August 29, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I always assumed it was about Mary Magdalene... "overcome by your moving temple" Movie temples are primarily Wiccan, and I believe I read somewhere that Mary Magdalene was Wiccan... "a dollar at a time"... Prostitution comes to mind... but it could be a number of things. Why couldn't the song just be about a man who falls in love with Mary Magdalene, and decides if he has to pay for her every night, he'll do so just to have her. *shrugs* What does it matter anyway? shanon September 04, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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That's part of what makes this song so amazing, the way Maynard talks about losing control to all these things that Magdalena is. That's true about how many of the people referred to in the Bible as "the harlot" were actually not in that occupation -- often foreign women were called this because they didn't observe the ultra-modesty of the Hebrew women and thus were seen as flaunting themselves like prostitutes. Or they could have belonged to one of the earth-goddess religions, who were paid, but it was money for the temple. ic_assasainon September 18, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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That's part of what makes this song so amazing, the way Maynard talks about losing control to all these things that Magdalena is. That's true about how many of the people referred to in the Bible as "the harlot" were actually not in that occupation -- often foreign women were called this because they didn't observe the ultra-modesty of the Hebrew women and thus were seen as flaunting themselves like prostitutes. Or they could have belonged to one of the earth-goddess religions, who were paid, but it was money for the temple. ic_assasainon September 18, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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When I heard the song, I immediately thought more of The Virgin Mary. I have been to a lot of Catholic Chruches, and it seems that everywhere you find a statue of Mother Mary, you will find a box to put your money in as well. It seems that Maynard is comparing Mary to a Goddess, because in the Cathlic faith, Mary is almost worshipped more than Christ. And if she is the Mother of Christ and God is the Father, doesn't that make her a Goddess? So, in essence, to me anyway, the song is about how Catholics tend to just toss a dollar on the alter rather than actually pray and/or lead good lives. They sell their soul and their self-esteem a dollar at a time, because they are told that they can buy their way into Heaven. And now you know why Catholic Churches have huge cathedrals instead of little churches in your neighborhood... because they can afford to. martyr_eulogyon August 31, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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There are/were lots of Christian sects that said things such as Jesus and Mary Magdalene were a couple-- the holy couple that appears in many pagan religions, which of course elevates M. Magdalene to a goddess. They also referred to her as "the black Madonna" because she was the opposite of the other Madonna, the Virgin. I think there's this one Gnostic text which is all about how God is made of opposites: "I am the virgin and the whore," etc. God is also male and female, this guy is seeing this woman, and having sex with her, as a communion with God (some Gnostics had sex rituals). But at the same time, you have this whole thing with the prostitute-- it's kind of shameful to pay for sex, but the man is selling his self-esteem a dollar at a time because of his desire. So more duality. ic_assasainon September 10, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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IC_assasain I think is on the right track, or at least I agree with that to a great extent. But I would take it further. I would take it to the level of an actual woman, a goddess and a "slut" at the same time, someone with enough personal power to make even maynard lose control over his desire (no not literally, just meaning that he has no choice of whether he wants her or not. Imagine, someone stronger than maynard? Could it be?) Someone, representing the female divinity, that he wants so much that he would give everything. This goes along with the tori amos obsession with mary magdalene. Also, there's an entirely different story behind the black madonna, one that I won't get into, but suffice it to say that mary magdalene was not neccesarily a whore, but that generally any woman in the bible in touch with her sexuality, or who had sex outside of marriage, was considered a whore.....anomalous3on September 18, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Magdalena aka Mary Magdalene is like the opposite of the Virgin Mary. But she's still sort of a goddess, which is what Maynard means about 'my black madonna.' And then note the 'dollar at a time,' ie, stripping/dancing/whatever you'd like to call it. Holiest of altars, etcetera etceteraI have no idea what it actually means. I think that all of Maynard's songs are pretty deep and have some kind of a catch. But this could be a first...Sweet_Judithon September 27, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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This song to me is just being completely dumbfounded by sexual prowess from someone else. being completely taken over by your libido within those moments. Maynard is just comparing it to Magdelena, the prositute from the bible, and comparing it to a stripper as well. tommanon October 11, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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A power. Imagine a feeling so strong you would do anything to keep it, but your not even sure that is what you want. Its so strong, you feel physical pain. A power with such a force you lose your self control. A feeling so deep it is holy. Holy enough to sacrafice your everything on a sacred altar to this priceless prayer... so long forgotten. Why does it have to be about a woman? I believe the woman he refers to is only a symbolic item to a hidden meaning of something our minds cant grasp. Drowningangelon October 15, 2002   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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oi..just something i wanted to add..if it hasn't already been posted..but i remember a song from a Spanish concert.. one of the songs name was "Magdalena" when i first heard of this song.. i thought the two had some resemblence.. but.. 'course i'd have to translate the words from the song.. but, aye when i do.. i could post those here and maybe that might add some similarity? linkinparkdeftones, i HIGHLY DOUBT Maynard would be a chrisitian. think about it. listen to TOOL - Eulogy and one other TOOL song that i cannot think of..but..that should tell you well enough that Maynard ISN'T a christian. OrcishIncubuson March 27, 2003   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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OMG, seriously people, stop trying to be more impressive than the artist you interpret and just interpret it. THIS SONG IS NOT ABOUT JESUS. NOT EVERYTHING TOOL AND APC WRITE IS ABOUT SOMETHING BIBLICAL. eddievanhillbillyon May 05, 2003   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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oi, and one other thing.. it also shows a Wiccan star. Wicca was a subdivision of Christianity at one point. but the Wiccan star can also be used as a pagan symbol. i think TOOL is just "tooling" with your head, kid. OrcishIncubuson May 06, 2003   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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~NiGHTSFTP~: congratulations on ruining a perfectly calm and intellectual discussion with your ignorant exclamations. How dare you insult someone because their beliefs are different than yours? Beowulf is one of the most open minded Christians I've seen yet, and you go and insult them because you're too stupid and closed-minded to accept that. No, I don't agree with Christianity, but I don't call people "fucking homos," and by insulting gays you further lower yourself. If you consider yourself a Tool and APC fan, you'll find it interesting that Maynard said that homosexuality is the next step in human evolution. Think before you speak, my friend, if that isn't too hard for you. BassGhoston June 29, 2003   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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does no one think anything of the fact that a musical was written called Magdalena and the plot has to do with a statue of a madonna, in accordance to the lyric in the APC song "my black madonna"? Jondude11on June 30, 2003   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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after reading the "da vinci code - tom brown" this song meant so totally different to me. "sevenayn" in this chain, two years back, said something about goddess worship... i guess this could be one of the ways to look at this song.... not so in the exact terms as salvation through sex with whores.... but if u have read the book, u would know what i mean......tapeeon June 08, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Well, a woman's body is her temple, and if she's dancing, she's got a moving temple. I think we all know what the holiest of altars is. I see it as a conflict between the ingrained morals against sexuality (especially women's) and the deep primal urge to just give in to the wild monkey within. Mary magdalene has been seen as an aspect of whatever you want to call the powerful sexual goddess figure that features in most prechristian religions, as has the black madonna. If you read foucault's pendulum, you'll see how there are always women who take on the aspect of the magdalene, the sacred whore. So seeing this in perhaps a stripper, or just anyone who holds sexual power over you is a struggle. anomalous3on June 10, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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ALSO, consider THE FACT, that the artist (and thier good freind), alex grey, did lateralas artwork, and their stageshow, with HIS paintings. ALL of his paintings symbolize an acknowledgement of GOD , and some JESUS. now, are you trying to tell me that there's no way anyone in TOOL or APC might be religious? or are you saying that TOOL would go to that great of lengths to misrepresent themselves. a christian is someone who believes in GOD, JESUS, and the bible and their message (this has nothing to do with money, murder, or all that other bullshit people blame GOD for. i think its pretty obvious maynard has a deep belief in GOD and JESUS, and i think that he's probably offended by the was most people percieve and interprate these things, and place all their faith in a guy on T.V. or wait for their preacher to tell them, rather than figure it out themselves. ALSO, it says GOD in the brain on the lateralas covereddievanhillbillyon May 05, 2003   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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"Fuck your god, fuck your Lord and your Christ, he did this, took all you had and left you this way, still you pray, you never stray, you never taste of the fruit, never thought to question why." that sounds like a christian song? i thought christian songs WORSHIP Christ, not spit at him. besides, when Maynard was a child, his mom was.. i believe a Roman Catholic. SO I HEARD. she beat him in the head with a cross because he was playing with fire and she claimed that "fire was the devil" in Opiate, they also say that "Jesus Christ won't you blind me with your light and your lies?" and that of the Trinity, Jehovah and Jesus Christ wanted to rape the christians..probly their mind. quit being so blind. or have you been blinded as well, by "The Light"? yes, i do know that Alex Grey drew extremely intricate pictures that resembled Christ. but Christ was just a man, right? there isn't any proof that he's "God" 'cept a book called the Bible. and there's no proof that it's his "word". i was once a christian for the majority of my life. but, when you think about it.. all it is.. is some... facade..to comfort a person. no, i don't think TOOL is a christian band, yes, i do think they're religious, but in a different way. like some..random..person commented on a TOOL song.. they specialize in "Astral Travel" which is where your soul leaves your body on the earthly plane and travels on the plane "where all the dead people go". hai.. i think that's where their religion is. READ THE INSERT TO AENIMA. a brain that believes in something is infunctional. AND AN INFUNCTIONAL BRAIN IS CLINICALLY *DEAD*. Believe in nothing, if you so highly claim of Christianity, then you obviously don't know your TOOL musick correctly, ne~? read about Ritual magick and then post about something. OrcishIncubuson May 06, 2003   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Just to let you know, homosexuality couldn't possibly be the next step in human evolution. Why? Because evolutionary process is the passing on of genes to offspring. Thus, you need two things:1. Prove that homosexuality is genetic. This hasn't been proven yet. What I think about it doesn't matter here. 2. The ability for homosexuals to pass their genes on. Currently, a homosexual (or anyone, for that matter) can only pass their genes on by reproducing with the opposite sex. Since homosexuality by definition makes such a union quite rare, such offspring will be very rare, and therefore its contribution to the evolution of the species is *extremely* minute (think an atom in a particle of dust lying on a pebble in an infinite beach). That was off-topic, but I felt a strange desire to point it out. Anyways, I have some advice for everyone arguing about Maynard's beliefs, Christians and non-Christians alike:Who the hell really cares? If you believe an ounce of the messages in APC and Tool's songs, you'll know that you should come up with your beliefs yourself. It's hypocritical to be a fan of APC and Tool's message and then attempt to mirror someone else's beleifs. Lastly, I'd like to point this out. Whenever someone references "Jesus", "God", "Jesus Christ", et al, they could very well be making a statement not about God/Christ himself, but rather about his followers and his church. For example, Tool's song Eulogy seems to condemn Christians rather than Jesus himself. And by "Christians", I mean the ones who like to judge and force their morals on others. I'm done. Have fun, be nice, and use this site for what it's for (not flame-fests from ignorant fan boys). Drison June 03, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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HOLD ON PEOPLE! The bible refers to Mary MAGDALENE not Magdalena as this song. It's even pronounced differently with the bibles Magdalene (Mag-da-lin) and Magdalena (Mag-da-lena). Magdalena was a real person who lived only a few centuries ago (Not Mary Magdalene who lived in the time of Jesus 2000 years ago) Look into this further PLEAAAASE! Reverend-Maynardon July 01, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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In my personal opinion, the writer sees a certain womans body as a temple and his entire self is overthorwn by a desire to be with her. (This song always makes me laugh because my sisters name is Amanda Lena and when Maynard sings 'Magdalena' it almost sounds like he's saying her name.. Sorry, I found that amusing and I figure di should share it.) psycho_slothon October 03, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Evidently he really is falling for this girl.and what dris said is a very good point. I grew up in a southern baptist church and the church scared me into what they believed because they said that I would go to hell over anything. I got really panicky and I finally gave up being a servant for a master who treats me like I am never good enough. This is just one of Maynards songs that touch me. I feel that we came from the same past. How can you beat great music with fucking fantastic lyrics. I cant find anybody who even compares. Its like once you go to tool, you stop being a fool. Rap pisses you off because it is just too simple and old music is just old. Maynard is ahead of his time by 25 years. calebsystem3on October 24, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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As with everything, it all seems to start with a girl. Regardless of my own story, this is the meaning it brought to me: Love born of the hope of turning a slut into a saint. The love of a supreme beauty reinforced by hope that you can change her from the way she was, how much sweeter if you can keep what no one else could? EmpyreanVagranton October 24, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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PS: The musical may have some relevance... but statues of maddonna's aren't all that rare... there is actually an icon known as a "Black Madonna" associated with Goddess Worship... which just brings us back to "The real Mary Magdalene"crucify_the_egoon November 05, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I think this song is about irony. People are easily manipulated. "I'd sell soul, my self esteem a dollar at a time". Giving money to that which is holy ... because one is tempted and basically controlled to do such...well that is hardly holy. I don't really know what the promise of this "magdalena" is, but the whole concept does not sound all that riteous. CÆTon November 20, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I think a few people have mentioned the point I am about to make already, but here goes. As a person who has recently jumped on the da Vinci Code Band-wagon, i've been reading up on the whole catholic conspiracy thing... i'll just explain it a bit for the people who haven't heard much about it. Christianity became a major religion when emporer Constantine made it the official state religion. He didn't actually believe in Christianity, he just wanted to unite his empire. To help intergrate the pagans into christianity, pagan rituals and celebrations were re-interpreted into a Christian context (easter and christmas are on pagan sacred days) Anyway, in order to promote Jesus as a divine god-like figure, they chose gospels that promoted him as such and edited them to tell the story they wanted the public to hear (there were heaps of gospels written that told a more realistic story of Jesus.) The dead sea scrolls gave substance to this theory as they were written before the gospels we know today, and told a completely different story of jesus' life. They told of how Mary Magdalene and Jesus were lovers and had children together (the church would have changed this as it contradicted the image of divinity they wanted to portray). They made no mention of her as a prostitute and it is thought that this was added in by men of the church so as to degrade women and maintain the patriarchy (vis a vis adam and eve.) Anyway, Mary magdalene was considered by the real early Christians as close to a goddess. She was a representation of "The Goddess" worshipped by the Rennes-de-Chatau (A Pagan Cult: no, Pagan does not mean "devil worship... another misconception spread by the catholic church to maintain a sense of fear and obediance.) I believe this song relates to this version of Mary Magdelene rather than the christian version as the song portrays her as a goddess whereas the bible didn't really give her a central position. an interesting fact to note is that Jesus initially passed on his ministry to mary, but Paul was a sexist
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I really think this song is talking about Jesus's relationship with Maria Magdalena, the way jesus felt touched by a human feeling. Maynard playing the rol of jesus on this song. here2infinityon November 23, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I'm going to have to agree with the people who brought up the Da Vinci Code(couldn't put that book down). I WANT to say that in this song Maynard is renouncing the new testament and accepting Mary Magdalene for the goddess that she was, not the whore the bible make her out to be, as a sort of metaphor for all the beautiful things embodied in the female being. There is a contradictory point to this though in that he states "I've lost my self-control, beyond compelled to throw this dollar down" and "I'd sell my soul, my self-esteem a dollar at a time ", leaving me still questioning the true meaning of this song. Oh well, I guess I'll never know. NeverKnowWhoSheIson December 01, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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As far as the divinci code. I have read the book and he makes some good points, but maybe he is a good historian that throws controversial opinions in when he sees a gap in history. That is just my opinion but people are doing all kinds of things for money these days. Dont take your whole view of life by what one book says, that might be opionated just to make a few dollars. Why doesnt anybody else know about his accusations. I dont know but the story sounds good. The only problem is Why hasnt everbody else picked up on this pagan and christ mix. Sounds like old danny boy is trying to make his car paymentcalebsystem3on December 13, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I like matyreulogy's explanation. I am a christian (sort of) and i have seen Christians toss money to the church like nothing (when they could be doing what god wanted and give it to the poor directly not some institution that no one is really sure where the money goes). Also guys, Maynard isnt just anti-christian, the man is basically anti-religion, i think its the whole human run institution he doesnt like, but who really knows. Oh and, the davinci code is no revolution people, its just some weird words thrown together to just take your money. Nothing more, nothing less. The whole word is bent on money, even something that was once so holy as the church. Its sad and sick. Prog_Rockeron December 24, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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- thatredhotsong - I'm with you on this one... in a big way. 'pages 348 - 349' The first thing I thought after finishing the latter was 'mer de noms'. I ran through the lyrics to magdalena and chuckled... Tool is no stranger to symbolism or metaphor either. Which raises questions about the guys. the_utopianon April 06, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I really think its about an obsession also. These lines really brought me to that conclusion. "So pure, so rare, to witness such an earthly goddessThat I've lost my self-control, beyond compelled to throw this dollar"Its about giving anything, even if that means your soul to get whatever you are after. And that he/she has lost all control, and at this point doesnt even think that this might be wrong or bad before doing it...thats just my take on it. HatchbackMustangon April 10, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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this always made sense to me as it being about a prostitue (i'd sell my soul, my self esteem a dollar at a time - prostitution is one of the few things that carries such a stimga in American culture)..one that was particularly irresistable for whatever reason. that also makes sense if we go with the popular theory that mary magdalene was a harlot....i dont see it as being about her specifically, but more so just using her as a clear symbol to represent whomever he's actually talking about... ..not asking you to buy into it, but that's what it does for me..stealthysockon May 20, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Now I haven't read through all the comments, so I'm not sure if someone has mentioned this before, but this song could be about drugs. Many of the songs on the Thirteenth Step refer to drugs, and could be interpreted that way, and this is one of them, also. Being overcome by the drugs, and compelled to throw money down, wasting away his soul for one taste of the drug. Black Madonna is a possible opium reference. Foxfulnesson June 08, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I had a black guy today tell me that this song is racist. I really think that they will say anything that isnt rap is so racist. Poor people we only give them everything and we have to be nice to them. Its like their handicap and we have to help them be as cool as we are by playing their music and putting them on tv. I dont really say things like this but I am sick of black people taking our kindness for weakness and how many times have I heard a black comedian talk bad about white people and its not even funny its just gay. I personally am sick of the fact that they think that I owe them something. This is not all black people just 90% of them. Whats even worse is these white losers who try to act black. Its like their trying to be as stupid as possible. calebsystem3on December 27, 2004   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Ok guys. Mary Magdalene wasn't a whore, she was not described as a prostitued until the late 60's if not 70's . What you need to be aware is that , what you read, isn't the only truth , infact .. the new testment.. is only half of the story... one side of an account , and history is written by the winners .. and wit hthe new testment .. it is the case. Castantine had hand picked various accounts recording Jesus, and he'd ordered to burn the rest to make Jesus the "one" and only. anyhow , that is not the point , the point is .. there's no point looking up the new testment because you won't find anything. Now Magdalene was some what HIEROS GAMOS = literally meaning temple prostitude , but you need to also understand , it was something of sacred , not what the catholic church makes it out to be. Well educated Christians are aware of this and I'm sure Maynard would be keen on looking up stuffs liek this as he's well known for, Read "Templar revelation" or "Holy grail" just track down to your nearst library . Aibason February 08, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Does anyone else think it's significant that "Mer de Noms" contains not only a song named "Magdalena" but also songs named "Rose" and "Sleeping Beauty"? First of all, "Magdalena" clearly references the concepts of the sacred feminine and goddess worship. Now I may only be a crack "DaVinci Code"-type researcher, but one of the reasons that the Church "prostituted" M.M. 's reputation was that they wanted to quash the ideas of sacred feminity and goddess worship-- the Church is one of the most blatantly patriarchal organizations known to, uh, man-kind. Secondly, you have "Rose" right after "Magdalena"-- many Grail-seekers referred to M.M as the "Rose". Then, a few songs later, the title "Sleeping Beauty" pops up. Well as many of you doubtless know, "Sleeping Beauty" was filled with references to the princess (code named Briar "Rose", oddly enough-- go figure) HIDDEN safely away for years by her PROTECTORS (anyone who's not following this should definitely read "The DaVinci Code", even though I was unaware that there was anyone left on earth who hasn't read it) Hm, see any parallels? And all of this on a CD that contains many other references to the bible-- "Judith" and "Thomas" for example. AND-- AND there's the fact that A Perfect Circle is considered by some people to be the "feminine" counterpart to MJK's other band, Tool. Hm, is anyone seeing a connection here? Maybe the band's messing with our heads a little. thatredhotsongon March 31, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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holiest of alters...earthly goddess...my black madonna.... all of these are references to mary magdelene....who was never actually proven to be a prostitute, but jesus' apparent confidant and companion. Possibly even the mother of his child(ren)... The church is a scandalous bunch of people, namely men who would've covered up the true story of MM and Jesus because the "sacred feminine" (mm) was a threat to Jesus' reputation as a Divine being....and those in search of the "holy grail" were actually seeking the truth about MM's place in the life of jesus. the lyric "my black madonna" refers to a painting by Leonardo Da Vinci called "Madonna of the Rocks" in which Mary Magdelene is said to be depicted. anyway...APC does mention her in other songs but i don't think they are messing with our heads, maybe just trying to enlighten us. staticxtasyon April 04, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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The present day side of this song is about him wanting to have sex with a stripper (NOT A PROSTITUTE). He wants to thorw his money down for a kiss, but he will never get it. With a prostitute he would get it. "I bare witness to this place this prayer so long forgotten" the strip club. "Holiest of alters" The stage"Black Madonna" Referring to the stripper as an imperfect version of perfection. "I'd sell my soul, my self esteem a dollar at a time for one kiss etc etc..." He gives his money 1 dollar at a time at the strip club like most do in a chance that she might begin to like him or see hsi genoroisty and want more then the "business" relationship they have. "So Pure, So Rare" just him building her up in his mind when in fact she is not much different then any other strippers in the minds of anyone else. iconofsinon April 09, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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The song is, clearly, about a prostitute, yes, but I think it's more of a metaphor for what we desire most in life. Would we not sell our soul, our self-esteem for what we desire most? Maybe I think a little deeper about these things than others, but that's what I got out of it. ^_^william_serenityon September 07, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I agree with iconofsin...maynard is famous for taking something small and blowing it out of proportion. or just giving it a bigger and better meaning:"over come by your moving temple"...the bible refers to our body as a temple. maynard is known for his recurring religous references, as seen with songs like OPIATE, a song that talks freely and openly about Jesus and GOD, but really has nothing to do with either one. to me, its just a perverted way of looking at the setting and surroundings of a strip-club. flea2044on September 23, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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wow, thatredhotsong. I just now read your post after i posted mine. you are so right. if you havent yet, go see the da vinci code! she is referred to as the rose and the sleeping beauty. amazing. When did the Da Vinci code come out though? before or after Mer De Noms? I dont know, but its something to think about. a.is.for.anarchyon June 24, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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The Body = Holiest of AltarsThis place, this prayer, so long forgotten... THINK ABOUT IT! It's like William Blake had said in "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell": WE ARE THE GODS AND GODDESSES! Religion has taken the HOLY out of HUMANS and PLACED IT INTO THE HANDS OF AN EVIL INSTITUTION, THE CHURCH AND THOSE CLAIMING TO BE HOLIER THAN YOUR EVERYDAY, REGULAR HUMAN BEINGS (i.e. priests, pastors, everyone in the Catholic Church, etc.)!!! Please, people WAKE UP and realize YOUR OWN HOLINESS! In this song, her BODY is the TEMPLE, the HOLIEST OF ALTARS! Nature is the longest-living religion for man, not anything else, not any foolish, manipulative ideas created by some men to WARP the minds of the weak and thus control them with their ideas. But, yes, MULTIPLE MULTIPLE meanings in all of APC's and TOOL's songs. Could be about a stripper, but the ideas should connect to several other ideas, as well. tvisthedevilon May 24, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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guys... listen. you all seem to be on the right track here. but it's not overwhelmingly complex. mary magdalene (magdalena) was the supposed wife of jesus. she is often heavily associated with the holy grail. to make a very long story short, if the holy grail was ever uncovered, the truth of christianity would be heavily questioned. one of the first meanings of this song is saying "i'd give anything for a chance to kiss/taste/essentially put my mouth on and drink from the holy grail" because, if this happened, the holy grail obviously would have been found and the foundation of christianity would be shaken. second...yes there are "whore" references through the "a dollar at a time," mirroring the exchange of money for sexual activity..but not in the sense that magdalena was a whore. more that she was impure. referring to her as a "black madonna"...madonna is a term used in reference to the virgin mary. black, though, is opposite of the pure color of white...thus making magdalena impure. which, obviously she would have him, if she truly was the wife of jesus and truly did have other children with him like the stories state. bassssiicallly...this song is saying "hey, listen, magdalena was impure because she was having sex with your savior jesus, thus making your savior also impure. ps...i would give anything, even my soul, to get even one taste of magdalena (in this case representative of the holy grail) in order to prove to all of you that i am right and christianity is founded off of lies." yea. colloquially enough that is how i view it. kismyashon October 11, 2005   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Mary Magdalene (in other countries known as Magdalena) was known to be not only the first person to see Jesus after he was ressurected by according to the Gnostic Gospels, was also his wife. This was hidden over by the Roman Catholic Church. After the Ascension she fled to France and all the places where she was known to have preached at to spread the gospel of Jesus Crist, were statues of a "Black Madonna". this has now been linked to her as well as the goddess isis. the black statue being mostly from pagan temple sites dedicated to isis. Magdalena takes on those same traits and the black madonna was then placed at temples and shrines dedicated to her. if you want to read more about it, all the theories are laid out in "The Templar Revelation" by Lynn Picknett and Clive Princelemonpye55on January 04, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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i think this song is about pure lust. Maynard does an outstanding job of making all of his lyrics extremely passionate, whether its for love, hate, scorn, lust, etc. I believe Magdalena is a whore, as one who goes to whore houses is usually considered dishonorable. so, the main character is throwing away his self esteem, "a dollar at a time" can be literal or figurative. The dollar can be real money, or his dignity, or anything. The line "moving temple" refers to the christian saying that your body is a holy temple, and when you fornicate, or get fat, or get tatoos, that you are desecrating your temple. I think the song is about someone who is so lustful over a beautiful whore that he would give anything just to be with her for one night. Extremely passionate. I guess you could take the lyrics to be figurative and apply them to anything, i.e. lust for a hobby. Literally speaking, however, I think the song is about lust for a whore. And it is such a dark, beautiful song. a.is.for.anarchyon June 24, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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This song is about (i think) being so drawn to someone and wanting them so much that you are willing to do anything for them. You would give up and do whatever it takes to get them to want you too. 3Libras_APCon July 07, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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yeah, i didn´t really see "Magdalena", as more than this girl so impressive and fascinating, that he can´t believe she´s real, nothing else but a deep passion. May I say, veeery deep. Frauon July 21, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Not that this has anything to do with the song, but it is kinda wierd. My friend brought up the point about Rosetta Stoned referrencing Area 51 and I looked into it. Rumor has it that the tapes on the alien autopsies where named the Magdalena Tapes. Kinda of wierd, right? Now wiether those tapes exist or not is a different story, and i allow you to look into it. Zanon July 22, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Yea, the solo is good, but i hate to sound like an asshole. This sight is mostly about the lyrics. I wish more people would comment on more then just the lyrics, cause some times the music in the background influences the way we procive must, and the feeling the artist had, or wanted to feel. Zanon August 05, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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This song really hits home. I think its not only a reflection of Maynard's lack of self control but also the "Magdalena" he speaks of. Being an ex-stripper i've seen the looks on a "clients" face as he approaches with his money. Its a sense of fantasy, eroticism etc. The business is all about giving one's self or soul for the oblivious. I think that Maynard is speaking of the lack of self at the time being. It is an act of selling your soul. To be compelled by the thought of someone so much. clarabellaon December 08, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Could have to do with personal experience written through mythological metaphor. Or it could have to do with the, early church suppressed, belief that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were lovers. LordLycanon January 27, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I can't believe that people here are trying to back up the meaning of this song (which is clearly only able to be interpretted personally) with facts about Mary Magdalene whose role in the life of jesus has been in question for 2000 years! "Jesus new that she was a "Black Madonna" but he still none the less came onto her"-This is the most riddiculous statement i have ever seen or heard. Jesus came on to Mary Magdalene, how kind of you to put it so accurately. (There is a lot of proof in the bible, and other sources, that Mary was jesus's wife and chosen disciple but the meaning of your statement eludes me)A few more points- Mary was never a prostitute, this was just slander as a woman in this time was considered inferior and disrespectful if she did what Mary did, follow jesus and preach his teachings after his death. - Magdalene is a term of respect and authority as is Black Madonna and the name Mary itself! perfectcurseon October 26, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Rofl XD"(There is a lot of proof in the bible," - perfectcurseThat's all I have to say on that matter. Secondly, no-one here is in any position as to say whether or not Maynard IS religious, less so the group as a whole, because each one could believe something different. That said, it is LIKELY that he is not religious, but takes a keen interest in it, or perhaps actively fights against parts of it which he disagrees with. Just because he says he's not trying to knock religion in an interview doesn't mean he believes it. If he were to discriminate or say he doesn't like religion/religious people, it could damage is fan-base. As it's been pointed out there are tons of leads in his songs to suggest that he "disapproves" of some, if not many, of the elements in religions such as Christianity. I know his songs are often double-barrelled, but just listen to Judith - the message is overall pretty loud and clear. Some seem to believe that he believes in God simply because he you can't dislike something that doesn't exist, but I don't believe in God, and I still don't like him. The only thing that could prove anything is wordstraight from Maynard's mouth. Kakesaron October 28, 2006   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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As for Maynard not believing in Christianity, I'm not so sure about that - he certianly devotes a lot of time to it for someone who doesn't believe. He might hate it, but I think there's some belief there. I don't believe myself but there you go...lukeshepon January 30, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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there is actually nothing in the bible or even any of the nostic gospels about Mary Magdalene being a prostitute. Knowing Maynard, i dont think he would base a whole song on an unfounded rumor. i believe this is one of his clever little devices used to throw us off (lacrymology). If i remember correctly Magdalena is the middle name of his girlfriend or wife. In Amotion Maynard tells us that the song "Thinking of you" is about anal sex. Could it be that this song is really about oral sex? It seems to have all the right elements. "one taste of you" But to me this song is about being so in love or so overwhelmingly infatuated with someone that you would be willing to give anything just for one kiss or on loving moment with that person. celestialrevon February 14, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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ACTUALLY!!! IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE HES TALKING BOUT A STRIPPER!!! How he throws money at her while she undresses. And he has the urge to screw her senseless. Or am I just being ignorant lolzMr.BERNARDon February 28, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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lol@ some of the blatant ennuendo in this song that is overlooked in trying to find a much more complex meaning. Anyone familiar with TOOL knows that lyrics are often perceived as being deep and meaningful are often very simple and humorous at the same time:Overcome by yourMoving templeOvercome by thisHoliest of altarsHe's probably staring at this strippers Vagina (holiest of altars) as she dances before him. So pure, so rare, to witness such an earthly goddessThat I've lost my self-control, beyond compelled to throw this dollarThe dollar is obvious... the rest we can now understand. I'd sell my soul, my self-esteem a dollar at a timeFor one chance, one kiss, one taste of you, my MagdalenaHe's comparing this girl to an often worshipped idol "Magdalena"This is a brilliant song. jleighon March 19, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Maybe it is talking about hipocrites. Just him saying magdalena puts christianity out there, think about how many people say they believe one way but act another. While your sitting in church the guy beside you is saying he does not drink and that he is a pure christian, when in fact he is an alcoholic who abuses his wife. Think about it he is talking about a man willing to give everything he has "I'd sell my soul, my self-esteem a dollar at a time for one chance, one kiss, one taste of you, my Magdalena." kellieannon March 22, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I agree with MR. BERNARD, the meaning of this song is so obvious!!! Maynard is watching a stripper and he wants her!!! even in the art in the CD, there is a picture of a napkin that has writing on (i think its maynards) it saying "id sell my self esteem a dollar at a time for just one taste of you, my magdalena" and on the bottom left corner of the napkin is probably the name of the strip bar/club called cat eye...so its probably about a stripper. *btw i think maynard is against religion like most rational thinking people (and i dont mean against religion by not believing in a higher power)thinkNOWon June 22, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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To those posting about Jesus- Its quite simple minded of you to just think of Jesus as a "perfect man" and devoid of any personality whatsoever. He was born, grew up, lived a life and everything. Its not so far fetched as to think of him loving someone romantically or being attracted to someone just because the Bible doesnt give you a detailed account of his personal affairs. I'm not saying he "pushed" himself on anybody. I'll trust he's not the rapist type. But he most certainly wasnt incapable of feeling emotion. mordsithon October 14, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Magdalena is a Polish/Slavic name for a girl as well as the Bible reference. Polish people have a great reverence for the Black Madonna, or Our Lady of Czestochowa (look it up). I believe Maynard's Magda was Polish. :) As for the altar, something about her was sacred enough that he wanted to be able to immerse himself completely in her... redemption, salvation through her sex. Simple yet not, as with all things Maynard. ambermayon February 05, 2008   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Please nobody jump on me (as others have in this thread) for my interpretation, I do not assume I am correct or anything :)I was listening to this song today. Reminded me of a certain girl, in such a powerful way. I'm a relatively straight female, but whatever, for some reason, every word conjured up an image of her. The words are so immensely powerful and I fully agree with everyone putting forward their own interpretation. I agree with a lot of stuff anomalous3 and ICassasain said. In my opinion, this song portrays intense desire for someone. 'Magdelena' is not necessarily a prostitute, but somebody so beautiful, so hugely attractive and demanding of attention, a temple, he feels as if he must pay for her.. or give her some sort of gift (soul/self esteem!) in order to recieve just... a taste. Yes, in my opinion it is a reference to Mary Magdelane, but more in the sense of her being forbidden. I think that is a key point. I also think the religious references refer to the fact that he is so desperate for her, so devoted to her, as a Christian (for example) is to his religion. I also wanted to say that what Foxfulness said about drugs was very insightful and suuuch a good interpretation!! (Finally calebsystem3 is an ignorant racist idiot, people should not insult other people's views/religion/sexuality, most of us are adults here)aemeeon March 28, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I thought this song was about Christians, specifically Roman Catholics. Roman Catholics hold processions every now and then, they would parade religious icons which are placed on top of movable altars built especially for that. That's probably what MJK meant by moving altar. Also, some devout pilgrims would kiss(the "taste" part) and/or wipe handkerchiefs onto the image, symbolically bringing home a piece of the icon with them. Some images also have a donation box where you put money, that's probably where the "dollar at a time" came from. If you observe some of the persons who prostate themselves upon the image, you would think they have lost all shame, crying and sometimes shouting in front of the image, hence the "self-esteem" part. I thought it was all very obvious and literal, but then again I could be wrong. Just my two cents worth. demon_mordereon May 28, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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maynardslyrics.comI think Maynard's words need to be shared with the world, in their most accurate form. He is something of a lyrical genius, and we all know this. The site is very simple, but the main object of my site is not the layout, it's the lyrics. You will not find more accurate tool/apc/puscifer lyrics anywhere. So feel free to browse, peruse, if you will, maynardslyrics.com ... I have all the Tool albums done, minus Opiate, which will be added very soon. All his APC stuff, minus emotive, which will be added very soon. And as soon as his Puscifer stuff comes out, expect it to be added as well. If you see any lyric or line that you feel is not what you think it should be, please feel free to email me @ magiclessmarker@maynardslyrics.com-magiclessmarker. magiclessmarkeron September 15, 2007   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute. The catholic church denounced that a few hundred years ago. She was a true disciple of Jesus Christ, and because she was a woman, the catholic church wouldn't allow it to be told that way. Corruption in the church. Which is what I believe this song is about. He's not speaking of Mary herself, but using her as a reference to the church. The Magdalena in the song is not Mary Magdalene, but the church itself, and everything the church represents. He's speaking of the corruption of the church, comparing it to a common whore (Mary). How the church is interested only in money, and will do anything to acquire it. But I suspect Maynard knows the story of Mary, and that she was not a whore. I think he has hope for Christianity. Hope that they can prove him wrong through change. Become the thing it once was. A tool for salvation, not a pathway to riches. Mary, once known as a whore, was found to be pure. Her reputation cleansed. Maybe the church can do the same. Known as a "whore". One day it will be found pure. It's reputation also cleansed. halfbakedlammaon March 22, 2008   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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I think you're all on the wrong track about this incredible song. You know that most of the songs in Mer De Noms (Sea of Names) are as one might expect, titled with Names. I think that "Judith" prooves that all of the names are actually people who Maynard and/or the others knew (Judith was his mother as you all know). So what I'm getting at is that Magdalena was also a woman who he met at some point in his life (and probably fell in love with). I have never thought this song was about Mary Magdalene, it's just redicilous. Open your minds, people - it's obvious that Maynard is using his wicked writing style to confuse you (not in a bad way) although the lyrics to "Magdalena" are pretty straight forward. Don't you think it's lil' bit weird that the name of the song is actually MAGDALENA and not MAGDALENE? If he was referring to the bible and all that shit why spell it differently?? All I wanted to say is that MJK met a bulgarian woman with the name Magdalena (which is a name, frequently used in Bulgaria, as I am also bulgarian) and this is his praise towards her. I'm almost sure about that one, I think he has said it somewhere. Pretty simple, eh ? You can just stop writing mindless theories about prostitutes, strippers, Jesus and the bible. After all this is APC, not The Mars Volta. ps: this is my favourite love song, it's unbelievably emotional, it has such energy, makes me speechless. violentretardon September 03, 2008   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.
Overcome by your Moving temple Overcome by this Holiest of altars So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I've lost my self-control Beyond compelled to throw this dollar Down before your Holiest of altars I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One chance One kiss One taste of you My Magdalena I bear witness To this place, this prayer, So long forgotten So pure So rare To witness such an earthly goddess That I'd sell My soul My self-esteem a dollar at a time For one chance One kiss One taste of you My black madonna I'd sell My soul My self-esteem A dollar at a time One taste One taste One taste of you My Magdalena.
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Rjina - Yup ure right, after all this is the purpose of this site and all. I wouldn't be writing some made up shit, MJK just said it. And let me just remind you that the lyrics to "Judith" are refering to his mother and the song "Brena" is about his ex-wife. I think this was the original idea of "MER DE NOMS". I'm not saying we shouldn't be interprating it in different ways, MJK is a great writer. and yeah - I still don't believe it's about a stripper or "Mary Magdalene". good nightviolentretardon May 25, 2009   LinkNo Replies Log in to replyThere was an error.