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Well , that 's the that was my my status report ,

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right ?

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You 've been working on that.

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Right , I mean Adam was

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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so Once we 're done with this stuff discussing ,

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right. I mean , not as well as what I mean , you wouldn't be able to have any kind of typology , obviously ,

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Yeah.

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but you 'd get some rough statistics.

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Mm - hmm.

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So.

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But what what do you think about that ? Do you think that would be useful ? I 'm just thinking that as an action item of whether we should try to record some two - person meetings or something.

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I guess my my first comment was , um only that um we should n not attribute overlaps only to meetings , but maybe that 's obvious , maybe everybody knew that ,

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Yeah.

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but that in normal conversation with two people there 's an awful lot of the same kinds of overlap , and that it would be interesting to look at whether there are these kinds of constraints that Jane mentioned , that what maybe the additional people add to this competition that happens right after a turn ,

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Mm - hmm.

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you know , because now you can have five people trying to grab the turn , but pretty quickly there 're they back off and you go back to this sort of only one person at a time with one person interrupting at a time.

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Mm - hmm.

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So , I don't know. To answer your question I it I don't think it 's crucial to have controls but I think it 's worth recording all the meetings we can.

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Can.

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So , um you know.

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Well , OK.

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Yeah.

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I I have an idea.

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D I wouldn't not record a two - person meeting just because it only has two people.

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Right.

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Could we Could we , um we have have in the past and I think continue will continue to have a fair number of uh phone conference calls.

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Uh - huh.

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And , uh , and as a to , um as another c c comparison condition , we could um see what what what happens in terms of overlap , when you don't have visual contact.

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Yeah , we talked about this repeatedly.

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So , um

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Can we actually record ?

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It just seems like that 's a very different thing than what we 're doing.

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Uh Well , we 'll have to set up for it.

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I mean physically can we record the o the other

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Yeah. Well , we 're not really set up for it to do that. But.

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Or , this is getting a little extravagant , we could put up some kind of blinds or something to to remove , uh visual contact.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Barriers !

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That 's what they did on Map Task , you know , this Map Task corpus ? They ran exactly the same pairs of people with and without visual cues and it 's quite interesting.

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Well , we we record this meeting so regularly it wouldn't be that I mean a little strange.

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OK , we can record , but no one can look at each other.

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Well , we could just put b blindfolds on.

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Yeah.

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Well y no you f

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Close your eyes.

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Blindf

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Yeah , Yeah.

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Turn off the lights.

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and we 'd take a picture of everybody sitting here with blindfolds. That would

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Oh , th that was the other thing , weren't we gonna take a picture at the beginning of each of these meetings ?

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Um , what I had thought we were gonna do is just take pictures of the whiteboards. rather than take pictures of the meeting.

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Well , linguistic

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And , uh

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Yes.

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Yeah. Linguistic anthropologists would would suggest it would be useful to also take a picture of the meeting.

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There 's a head nodding here vigorously , yeah.

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Why why do we want to have a picture of the meeting ?

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Ee - you mean , transc no

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The because you get then the spatial relationship of the speakers.

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Yeah Yeah.

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And that could be

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Well , you could do that by just noting on the enrollment sheet the the seat number.

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Yeah.

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Seat number , that 's a good idea. I 'll do that.

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Yeah.

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I 'll do that on the next set of forms.

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Yeah.

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So you 'd number them somehow.

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Is possible to get information from the rhythmic f from the ge , eh uh , files.

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I finally remembered to put , uh put native language on the newer forms.

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We can can't you figure it out from the mike number ?

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No.

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OK.

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The wireless ones. And even the jacks , I mean , I 'm sitting here and the jack is over in front of you.

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Oh.

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But probably from these you could 've infer it.

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Yeah , but It 's it would be trivial

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It would be another task.

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It would be a research task.

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Having having ground tu truth would be nice , so seat number would be good.

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You know where you could get it ?

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Yeah , yeah.

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Beam - forming during the digit uh stuff.

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Yeah.

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So I 'm gonna put little labels on all the chairs with the seat number.

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Mm - hmm.

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That 's a good idea.

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But you have to keep the chairs in the same pla like here.

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Not the chairs. The chairs are Chairs are movable.

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But , uh

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Put them Like , put them on the table where they

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The chair Yeah.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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But you know , they the s the linguistic anthropologists would say it would be good to have a digital picture anyway ,

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Just remembered a joke.

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