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again, though I don't know. And also, you know, again, a new
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tech like now you're talking maybe you can give those it's
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right.this could work, and i just think that's a really interesting frame-
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... not just the same people who've always worked in tech.
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are going to be more brought in to helping new yorkers-
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become part of our industry. because that has-
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to be the future. and, there's a lot written about how people are leaving cities, and they're moving to the suburbs or-
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small towns. i don't... listen, i don't-
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buy that. i think you'll see some of that in the near term, but cities-
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and all of the creativity that flows from cities-
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that's not going to change.yeah.
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actually, you might've seen, there was big news here-
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... last week, maybe two weeks ago. facebook signed a huge new lease in new york city.mm-hmm (affirmative).
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and i think it really speaks to that. it speaks to the future of our cities.
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it's incumbent upon all of us to make sure that everyone has-
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it just an understatement, but how to ensure.
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fast growing field. we've done a lot of work on that issue here in new york. and-
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with the program. and we have recruited about a hundred tech companies to be part of it. and this has been really great. and so now, these-
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timeframe. it's only, i think three weeks and they're-
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getting paid for the work. and they're getting, it's light... i mean, it's-
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