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some deleted Dear Will, I've never replied on this thing before so I hope it gets thru ok. I had a few thoughts!: "Faith on its own, if not accompanied by action is dead" - James 2:17 Faith is both belief and action. If I say that I am a great swimmer but I never go swimming, am I really a swimmer? and will people believe that I am? Likewise if I say I'm a Christian but I never talk to God, am I really a Christian? My faith is demonstrated by my action. The fact that we talk to God proves we have faith. Satan believes in God but does not follow Him! In a similar vein, I have recently been challenged by 1John2:3-6 v3 says "We know that we have come to know Him if we obey His commands" I find this verse quite encouraging as it could imply that 'if we have come to know Him, then we'll obey His commands' cos He lives within us and we cannot help but obey what He says. I tend to feel that as we daily submit ourself to God He will keep changing us into the likeness of Jesus and His fruit and works will be automatically produced in our lives. Hope this helps.

soc.religion.christian

I don't find this a credible argument, for two reasons. One you have supplied below: unless I care about entering the USA at any time in the future (eg. the Taiwanese backyard cloners - who BTW have been known to decap custom silicon and reproduce it on daughterboards when pirating high-profit arcade machines and the like - who wouldn't care less), I am not going to care much about US confidentiality, am I? Only people like the real me, who does care about travelling to various countries for business reasons, will sit up and follow laws like this, but I would contend that we're not the main threat. I also have grave doubts whether an algorythm widely distributed in silicon could possibly be called "classified." It's like handing out military secrets to the whole world in envelopes marked "don't open me." I can imagine several credible defences which could be employed if it came to a trial. One would be the stupidity of the government's actions. Amusing thought: could they have employed an algorythm which is infeasable for a fast software implementation, but which is easy in custom hardware? In DES, the extensive use of permutation tables (trivial in hardware: you just swap bus lines), but relatively slow in software have had a big effect on the speed difference between hardware and software implementations of that cipher (indeed, I suspect that Lucifer's designers were well aware that it would be, and approved.) Certain algorythms (usually parallel search algorythms) can be very slow in software, yet can fly in custom hardware. I have no proof of their employment in Clipper -- it is pure conjecture. However, as a software implementation of this cipher is something that its designers would have been trying to avoid at all costs, then the inclusion of such techniques seems credible. Hmmm... I also wonder what Intergraph thinks about the use of the name "Clipper" for this device. :)

sci.crypt

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

It worked!!! Thank you very much!

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Anything that does not bring me closer to God is a sin. (If you think this is too strict, just consider how ambiguous it is.) This implies that staying the same is a sin. A Christian should never be satisfied. It does not imply that having fun is a sin. It does not imply that sleeping is a sin. It does imply that I sin every day. A perhaps simpler definition: Anything that is counter to the two Great Commandments: love God, love your neighbor, is a sin. Anything I do that is not from love is a sin. The same action can be a sin sometimes and not a sin sometimes. I could yell at my kids as discipline, all the time loving them, considering only to teach them proper behavior, or I could yell at my kids out of anger or selfishness. I could post an excellent article because I am interested in sharing my opinions and getting feedback and learning, or I could post an article because I want everyone to realize how wise I am.

soc.religion.christian

What evidence indicates that Gamma Ray bursters are very far away? Their distribution is very isotropic and the intensity distribution, crudely speaking, indicates we're seeing an edge to the distribution. Given the enormous power, i was just wondering, what if they are quantum black holes or something like that fairly close by? Why would they have to be at galactic ranges? Now, in the good old days before GRO data, it was thought the gamma bursters were neutron stars in the galaxy, it was expected that GRO would confirm this by either showing they were a local population (within a few hundred light years) or that they were in the galactic halo. (Mechanism was not known but several plausible ones existed) (also to be fair it was noted that the _brightest_ burster was probably in the LMC, suggesting theorists might be wrong back then...) As the Sun is not at the center of the galaxy a halo population should show anisotropy (a local disk population is ruled out completely at this stage) - to avoid the anisotropy you have to push the halo out, the energy then gets large, the mechanism of getting NS out that far becomes questionable, and we should start to see for example the Andromeda's bursters. The data is consistent with either a Oort cloud distribution (but only just) - but no one can think of a plausible source with the right spectrum. Or, it can be a cosmological distances (hence isotropy) and the edge is "the edge of the Universe" ;-) If at cosmological distances you need very high energy (to detect) and a very compact source (for spectrum), ergo a neutron star colliding with another neutron star or black hole. Even then getting the spectrum is very hard, but conceivable. If we know anything about physics at that level, the bursters are not due to quantum black holes or cosmic strings, wrong spectrum for one thing. The situation is further complicated by recent claims that there are two classes of sources ;-) [in the colliding NS they'd actually probably fit relatively easily into the NS-NS and NS-BH collision scenarios respectively] my own pet theory is that it's Flying saucers entering hyperspace :-) but the reason i am asking is that most everyone assumes that they are colliding nuetron stars or spinning black holes, i just wondered if any mechanism could exist and place them closer in. If you can think of one, remember to invite me to Stockholm...

sci.space

I can't imagine why someone would leave their computer on all of the time to start with. Its like leaving your lights tv, radio and everything in the house on all of the time to me.....Nuts

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

I have a basic Apple IIgs system that I need to sell. Everything comes with original boxes and documentation, and is in excellent condition. Make an offer; I'll consider anything: Apple IIgs 1 meg 3.5" drive 13" AppleColor RGB monitor keyboard/mouse/mousepad/dustcovers/1200 baud Applemodem/random other worthless stuff. Here's a list of the games/apps: Games: Applications: BattleChess System Disk Defender of the Crown System Tools IIGS Arkanoid II WordPerfect Bubble Ghost Appleworks Shadowgate Writer's Choice elite Balance of Power Draw Plus Marble Madness Copy II Plus Zany Golf ProTERM communications software Chessmaster 2100 If interested, contact: sunshine@cco.caltech.edu

misc.forsale

I totally agree with that sentiment. But why do you have to go further and advocate violating what God has set up? That is the question which you have not answered from Scripture. You can worship on every day, as long as you work. But God says the Sabbath is all mine.

soc.religion.christian

rec.autos

Frank, I tried to mail this but it bounced. It is fast moving out of t.a scope, but I didn't know if t.a was the only group of the three that you subscribed to. Apologies to regular t.a folks. You must be using 'values' to mean something different from the way I see it used normally. And you are certainly using 'Science' like that if you equate it to "the real world". Science is the recognition of patterns in our perceptions of the Universe and the making of qualitative and quantitative predictions concerning those perceptions. It has nothing to do with values as far as I can see. Values are ... well they are what I value. They are what I would have rather than not have - what I would experience rather than not, and so on. Objective values are a set of values which the proposer believes are applicable to everyone. I don't agree. Science is useful insofar as it the predictions mentioned above are accurate. That is insofar as what I think *will be* the effect on my perceptions of a time lapse (with or without my input to the Universe) versus what my perceptions actually turn out to be. But values are about whether I like (in the loosest sense of the word) the perceptions :-) I don't see why. 'Usefulness' in science is synonomous with 'accuracy' - period. Tarot predictions are not useful because they are not accurate - or can't be shown to be accurate. Science is useful because it is apparently accurate. Values - objective or otherwise - are beside the point. No?

talk.religion.misc

The following press release was distributed April 1 by NASA Headquarters. Space Station Redesign Advisory Members Named Along with Dr. Charles M. Vest, recently named by Vice President Albert Gore to head the advisory committee on the redesign of the Space Station, NASA has announced the names of representatives from government and industry and academic experts from across the country to participate in an independent review of the redesign options being developed by NASA. "I am extremely honored to have been selected to lead this important review panel. America's future in science and technology and as a world leader in space demands our utmost attention and care," said Vest. "We have assembled a diverse panel of experts that, I believe, will bring the appropriate measures of insight, integrity and objectivity to this critical task." The advisory committee is charged with independently assessing various redesign options of the space station presented by NASA's redesign team, and proposing recommendations to improve efficiency and effectiveness of the space station program. Space station international partners also are being asked to participate and will be named at a later date. The advisory committee will submit its recommendations in June. Advisory committee members named today include: Dr. Charles Vest Dr. Bobby Alford President, MIT Executive VP & Dean of Medicine Baylor College of Medicine Mr. Jay Chabrow Dr. Paul Chu President, JMR Associates Director, Texas Center for Superconductivity University of Houston Dr. Ed Crawley Dr. John Fabian Prof of Aero & Astro President & CEO MIT ANSER Maj. Gen. James Fain Dr. Edward Fort Deputy Chief of Staff for Chancellor Requirements; Headquarters North Carolina AT&T USAF Materials Command State University Dr. Mary Good Mr. Frederick Hauck Senior VP of Technology President, International Technical Allied Signal, Inc. Underwriters Dr. Lou Lanzerotti Mr. William Lilly Chair, Space Sciences National Academy of Public Board, National Research Administration Council Mr. Duane McRuer Dr. Brad Parkinson President Systems Technology Prof of Astro & Aero Stanford University Dr. Robert Seamans Dr. Lee Silver Former NASA Deputy Admin. W.M. Keck Foundation Professor for Resource Geology California Institute of Technology

sci.space

A week or so ago, I posted about a problem with my SE/30: I have 20 megs or true RAM, yet if I set my extensions to use a large amount of memory (total of all extensions) then my system will crash before the finder comes up. What I meant was having a large amount of fonts load, or sounds, or huge disk caches with a control panel other than Apple's memory control panel. Apple's cache is at 64K, mode 32 is on, and so is 32 bit addressing. All extensions work by themselves or with the others until I increase the memory used by some of them (with methods mentioned above). Well, here's my latest followup... I ran NOWs System Profile and got this information: %%% Memory info %%% Physical RAM size: 20480K. Logical RAM size: 20480K. Size of Low Memory Area: 8K. Virtual Memory: Inactive. Addressing mode: 32bit mode in use. 32 bit System zone: Absent. Parity RAM: Not capable. Growable System Heap: True. Temporary memory support: Present. Tempory Memory Support: Real and tracked. Note that 32 bit System zone is absent. Could this be the problem? How can I turn this on? Any ideas? Can anyone help?

comp.sys.mac.hardware

: ... I think they should rename Waco TX to Wacko TX!

sci.med

Could someone post the Flyers record with and without Eric Lindros in the lineup I have a guy that is trying to compare the Quebec/Flyers trade to the Dallas/Minnesota trade in the NFL(Hershel Walker) I just need the stat to back up my point that Eric will be one of the next great players thanks

rec.sport.hockey

Hm, I've got my CD drive since 921230. Indeed, CDs are bundled with it. You usually get nine CDs with demos of applications, games, photos, etc. I have compiled a list of these and posted it to alt.cdrom. I will post an updated version of this list RSN.

comp.sys.mac.hardware

Well put, Jim. I am as concerned about the media's complicity in this growing coverup. Can you imagine the media outrage, the lawsuits, the investigations that would emit if the government kept the media away from any other story? Particularly if a Republican administration had been behind it. What's going on here? Let's look beyond the initial blunder and examine what happened next. I'm a student of human phychology, particularly in the area of psy-ops because I've found some of the techniques to be useful in business negotiations. That puts me firmly in the amateur ranks. This AMATEUR knows that the first thing to do when sizing up the opponent is to do a psychological profile on him. You can bet your ass the FBI had professionally done profiles on Koresh. Koresh's behavior was emminently predictable. It is typical of people who move away from civilization to be willing to fight to the death to preserve their isolation. It would also be typical, given Koresh's religious orientation, for such an individual to interpret a government assault as the apocalypse. Suicide is as an acceptable alternative to being consumed in the apocalypse. IMHO, the FBI knew all this and decided after 50 days of concentrated psy-ops to initiate that apocalypse. I believe they chose a course of action designed specifically to push Koresh over the edge while publicly appearing to be acting reasonably. They KNEW that Koresh considered the tanks to be the Chariots of Fire mentioned in the Book of Revelations. They KNEW that sending tanks, oops, combat engineering vehicles, obstensibly to perform "gas insertions" (love that NewSpeak) WOULD push him over the edge. Look at some supporting evidence. Koresh's attorney mentioned on TV earlier today (4/20) that one of Koresh's major concern was the biblical role of the tanks stationed around the compound. The FBI (through Reno on Larry King last night and at the news conference this morning) claimed to have listening devices in the compound. If that was true they KNEW their actions were driving him to the brink. They KNEW they were pushing the Davidians toward mass suicide. Any rational and reasonable agency NOT interested in killing those people would, at the first sign of preparations for suicide, have pulled completely back and would have gotten rid of all the armor. Instead they continued with the "gas insertion" right up to the point where flames appeared. The image that will remain etched in my mind is that of the tank strutting back and forth in front of the burning compound, gloating over the kill. Let's step back and assess how this thing could have been ended without bloodshed. This technique would have required a law enforcement agency interested in constitutionally enforcing the law and in the preservation of life instead of achieving a military victory and of vengence. The way to have nabbed Koresh was simply to have announced a pull back, abandoned the assault, torn down the concertina wire and removed the armor, maintained covert surveillance of the compound and then exploited his ego to flush him out. Exploiting his ego would have been simple. A simple invite or two from the tabloid talk shows to come on TV and tell how he whipped the US government would have been something he could not have resisted. He could have then been nabbed when he left the compound. Simple, clean and safe but because it would have required the FBI to execute a tactical retreat and would have deprived them of the revenge they sought, it was totally out of the question. Not without all that testesterone floating around. After all Jannet Reno had to show the world how big her balls are. Yesterday was a sad, sad day for the American system. I am sick to my very soul. John

talk.politics.guns

Snort. Ah, there go my sinuses again. Oh, wow. A classic textbook. Hey, they laughed at Einstein, too! Yeah, I'll bet. Tomorrow, the world. Listen, uncontrolled studies like this are worthless. I'm sure you are. You sound like the typical hysteric/hypochondriac who responds to "miracle cures." Yeah, "it makes sense to me", so of course it should be taken seriously. Snort. Yeah, "it sounds reasonable to me". Oh, really? _What_ tests? Immune-compromised, my ass. More like credulous malingerer. This is a psychiatric syndrome. You know, it's a shame that a drug like itraconazole is being misused in this way. It's ridiculously expensive, and potentially toxic. The trouble is that it isn't toxic enough, so it gets abused by quacks. The only good thing about nystatin is that it's (relatively) cheap and when taken orally, non-toxic. But oral nystatin is without any systemic effect, so unless it were given IV, it would be without any effect on your sinuses. I wish these quacks would first use IV nystatin or amphotericin B on people like you. That would solve the "yeast" problem once and for all. Perhaps a little Haldol would go a long way towards ameliorating your symptoms. Are you paying for this treatment out of your own pocket? I'd hate to think my insurance premiums are going towards this.

sci.med

: : : 1. Make a new Newsgroup called talk.politics.guns.PARANOID or : talk.politics.guns.THEY'R.HERE.TO.TAKE.ME.AWAY : : 2. Move all postings about waco and burn to (guess where).. : : 3. Stop posting #### on this newsgroup ; : We are all SO glad you're trying to save us from the evil : goverment, but would you mail this #### in regular mail to : let's say 1000 people ???? : : : Thomas Parsli And everybody who talked about the evil arising in Europe was labeled reactionary in the late 1930's... after all, we could negotiate with Hitler and trust him to keep his end of the bargain... at least that's what Stalin and Chamberlin thought... I guess they forgot to teach you about your country being overrun by the Germans in WWII, 'eh Thomas? And I'm sorry you consider outrage at government excesses to be ####... Everytime the Israelis conduct a mass operation against a terrorist group that is actively killing their citizens and soldiers, the world gets indignant, but it's ok for the US to assault it's own citizens who were a religous minority and accused of sexual deviation and hoarding weapons... I find it real ironic this happened the same day Al Gore arrived in Poland to recognize the sacrifices made in the Warsaw Ghetto where the same 'justifications' were raised for an armed assault by black-clad troops with armor support...

talk.politics.guns

This is the official Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of two new newsgroups for Microsoft Windows NT. This is a second RFD, replacing the one originally posted in January '93 (and never taken to a vote). The proposed groups are described below: NAME: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup STATUS: Unmoderated. PURPOSE: Discussions about setting up and installing Windows NT, and about system and peripheral compatability issues for Windows NT. NAME: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc STATUS: Unmoderated. PURPOSE: Miscellaneous non-programming discussions about using Windows NT, including issues such as security, networking features, console mode and Windows 3.1 (Win16) compatability. RATIONALE: Microsoft NT is the newest member of the Microsoft Windows family of operating systems (or operating environments for those who wish to argue about the meaning of an "OS"). The family ranges from Modular Windows through Windows 3.1 and Windows for Workgroups to Windows NT at the high end. To date, Microsoft has shipped over 50,000 beta copies and pre-release SDKs of Windows NT -- the actual release is slated for May/June '93. While Windows NT has an entirely new design internally, it shares an application programming interface with the other members of the Windows family; its Win32 API includes the Win16 API used in Win- dows 3.1, and the Win32s API subset (Win32 less threads, networking and security) can be used to create 32-bit applications for Windows 3.1. The user interface is also practically identical to that of Windows 3.1, with the addition of logins and a few other features. It uses Program Manager, File Manager and other applets, and generally pre- sents an identical appearance to the user. Many of the announced Windows NT applications are ports of existing Windows 3.1 apps, and NT also runs existing 3.1 applications. Thus, it appears logical that Windows NT should share the following groups with the other members of the Windows family: comp.os.ms-windows.apps comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 The following groups are also clearly applicable to Windows NT as well as Windows 3.1: comp.os.ms-windows.announce comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy In conclusion, the only clear argument for the separation of the Windows 3.1 and Windows NT hierarchies is different internal structures of Windows 3.1 and Windows NT. And yet operating systems such as OS/2, Macintosh OS, Xenix and Coherent all have undergone major rewrites without having been split into separate newsgroup hierarchies. Further, Windows 3.1 is due for a major rewrite itself in 1994 -- when the fully 32-bit, protected-mode and with-DOS-built-in next- generation Windows, "Chicago", debuts next year, surely it should remain in the same hierarchy. And what, then, would be the jus- tification for separating Windows NT from other Windows versions? DISCUSSION PERIOD: The discussion period will run from 27 April, 1992 to 18 May, 1993. VOTING: The CFV (Call for Votes) will be issued around 19 May, 1993, based on the feedback received during the discussion period. No votes will be accepted prior to the CFV.

comp.os.ms-windows.misc

Keith Hanlan, on the Wed, 14 Apr 1993 19:20:14 GMT wibbled: : >If I remember correctly, the reason that BMW's come with those expensive, : >and relatively worthless, short lived Varda batteries, is 'cause BMW owns : >a controling interest in that battery Manufacturer. : What's wrong with the BMW battery? I've never had problems and I know : numerous people that are still using the original battery in there : 8-10 year old beemers. Kay, my '86 K100RS still has her original battery in. She's OK -- Nick (the Sufficiently Well Charged Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford M'Lud.

rec.motorcycles

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comp.os.ms-windows.misc

If anyone has any information about the upcoming new computers (Cyclone and Tempest), I am in need of some info. Anything would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

comp.sys.mac.hardware

: : Just taken delivery of a 66MHz 486 DX2 machine, and very nice it is too. : One query - the landmark speed when turbo is on is 230 or something MHz : - thats not the problem. The problem is the speed when turbo is off. Its : 7 MHz. The equivalent in car terms is having a nice Porsche with a button : that turns it into a skateboard. : : Does anyone have a clue as to what determines the relative performance of : turbo vs non-turbo?? I would like to set it to give a landmark speed of : about 30 or 40 MHz with turbo off. : : Cheers, :

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

|| edited and forwarded by the csm.announce moderator; || please respond to the originator by email ALSO; what he || needs, besides a cable that works, is a phone-number and || AppleLink address for Caere - and a smile and a pat on the || back... :-) | Please, I beg you. If you know anything about the Caere Typist Plus Graphics Hand Scanner, Please read and solve my problem. I will be truely grateful for the rest of my life! The problem is that My Caere Typist Plus Graphics Hand Scanner will not connect to my PowerBook 160. The Cable on the Scanner will not fit into the SCSI port on the PowerBook. I then got a cable assembled to adapt the original cable to fit the SCSI port. This, however, turned the computer into SCSI mode and treated it as a hard disk. I have asked an engineer in London to assembled a new cable. The idiot, out of sheer laziness has taken 14 weeks and has yet to solve the problem. I am aware that Caere Co. in the US have a solution. Do you know of a cable that will solve this problem. Please help me if you know the solution. I will be forever grateful to you. My e-mail address is: zia@uk.ac.ed.castle | || "wrong side of the road" syndrom; :-)) || || for us, that's zia@castle.ed.ac.uk | Thanking you in advance,

comp.sys.mac.hardware

Hey! I LIKE quiche, even if I did have to look at your note to spell it (assumed) correctly. Really, you <*sniff*> tough guys are all the same...

rec.motorcycles

rec.autos

: : nobody seems to have noticed that the clipper chip *must* have been : under development for considerably longer than the 3 months that : clinton has been president. this is not something that choosing : choosing bush over clinton would have changed in the slightest; it has : been in the works for some time. Actually, many of us have noted this. We have noted that the program started at least 4 years ago, that the contracts with VLSI Technology and Microtoxin were let at least 14 months ago, that production of the chips is well underway, and so forth. Nobody I know has claimed Clinton intitiated the program. But he chose to go ahead with it. -Tim May

sci.crypt

The American press routinely uses the word fundamentalist to refer to both Christians and Jews. Christian fundementalists are often refered to in the context of anti-abortion protests. The American media also uses fundamentalist to refer to Jews who live in Judea, Samaria or Gaza, and to any Jew who follows the torah. Adam Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu

talk.politics.mideast

Misc. Items for sale: Mount Plate: Sony Model CPM-203P, mounting plate for Sony portable CD players for Portable: plugs into car lighter, snaps onto the bottom of any Sony CD Player: Portable CD player, perfect condition. Will also throw in a cassette adapter in SO SO condition. Paid $45...............Asking $30. Car Speakers: Sherwood 5 1/4" two way car speakers, in car for 7 months, 5 1/4 inch: excellent condition, Paid $65............Asking $40. 4 inch: Factory Speakers from Toyota excellent condition Asking $20. Nintendo: Nintendo Game Boy, Light Boy, Tetris, Super Mario Land, Gameboy: NFL Football, Castlevania Adventure, Hyper Lode Runner, 4 years + games: old all in working condition, Asking $70. Accessories: Whole Internet: The Whole Internet: User's Guide and Catalog by ED Krol, book: guide to using the internet, where to fing information and resources. Paid $30..........Asking $20. MicroSoft: Never Used, came with my computer, Asking $30. Visual Basic: MicroSoft: Came with my computer, never used, Asking $100. Word for Windows: Thanks,

misc.forsale

I've seen a listing of a Seagate 1G IDE hard drive. Windows NT already supports SCSI, a variety of adapters, for disk, tape, and CD-ROM. So does OS/2 2.0.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Anyone care to speculate on this? I'll let the rest of the net judge this on its own merits. Between 1914 and 1920, 2.5 million Turks perished of butchery at the hands of Armenians. The genocide involved not only the killing of innocents but their forcible deportation from the Russian Armenia. They were persecuted, banished, and slaughtered while much of Ottoman Army was engaged in World War I. The Genocide Treaty defines genocide as acting with a 'specific intent to destroy, in whole or in substantial part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.' History shows that the x-Soviet Armenian Government intended to eradicate the Muslim population. 2.5 million Turks and Kurds were exterminated by the Armenians. International diplomats in Ottoman Empire at the time - including U.S. Ambassador Bristol - denounced the x-Soviet Armenian Government's policy as a massacre of the Kurds, Turks, and Tartars. The blood-thirsty leaders of the x-Soviet Armenian Government at the time personally involved in the extermination of the Muslims. The Turkish genocide museums in Turkiye honor those who died during the Turkish massacres perpetrated by the Armenians. The eyewitness accounts and the historical documents established, beyond any doubt, that the massacres against the Muslim people during the war were planned and premeditated. The aim of the policy was clearly the extermination of all Turks in x-Soviet Armenian territories. The Muslims of Van, Bitlis, Mus, Erzurum and Erzincan districts and their wives and children have been taken to the mountains and killed. The massacres in Trabzon, Tercan, Yozgat and Adana were organized and perpetrated by the blood-thirsty leaders of the x-Soviet Armenian Government. The principal organizers of the slaughter of innocent Muslims were Dro, Antranik, Armen Garo, Hamarosp, Daro Pastirmadjian, Keri, Karakin, Haig Pajise-liantz and Silikian. Source: "Bristol Papers", General Correspondence: Container #32 - Bristol to Bradley Letter of September 14, 1920. "I have it from absolute first-hand information that the Armenians in the Caucasus attacked Tartar (Turkish) villages that are utterly defenseless and bombarded these villages with artillery and they murder the inhabitants, pillage the village and often burn the village." Sources: (The Ottoman State, the Ministry of War), "Islam Ahalinin Ducar Olduklari Mezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat," (Istanbul, 1918). The French version: "Documents Relatifs aux Atrocites Commises par les Armeniens sur la Population Musulmane," (Istanbul, 1919). In the Latin script: H. K. Turkozu, ed., "Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi," (Ankara, 1982). In addition: Z. Basar, ed., "Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz," (Ankara, 1974) and, edited by the same author, "Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler - Derlemeler," (Ankara, 1978). "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ...," Vol. 32, 83 (December 1983), document numbered 1881. "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ....," Vol. 31, 81 (December 1982), document numbered 1869. "Those who were capable of fighting were taken away at the very beginning with the excuse of forced labor in road construction, they were taken in the direction of Sarikamis and annihilated. When the Russian army withdrew, a part of the remaining people was destroyed in Armenian massacres and cruelties: they were thrown into wells, they were locked in houses and burned down, they were killed with bayonets and swords, in places selected as butchering spots, their bellies were torn open, their lungs were pulled out, and girls and women were hanged by their hair after being subjected to every conceivable abominable act. A very small part of the people who were spared these abominations far worse than the cruelty of the inquisition resembled living dead and were suffering from temporary insanity because of the dire poverty they had lived in and because of the frightful experiences they had been subjected to. Including women and children, such persons discovered so far do not exceed one thousand five hundred in Erzincan and thirty thousand in Erzurum. All the fields in Erzincan and Erzurum are untilled, everything that the people had has been taken away from them, and we found them in a destitute situation. At the present time, the people are subsisting on some food they obtained, impelled by starvation, from Russian storages left behind after their occupation of this area." Serdar Argic

talk.politics.mideast

1. Did you read the FAQs? 2. If NO, Read the FAQs. 3. IF YES, you wouldn't have posted such drivel. The "Lord, Liar or Lunatic" argument is a false trilemma. Even if you disprove Liar and Lunatic (which you haven't), you have not eliminated the other possibilities, such as Mistaken, Misdirected, or Misunderstood. You have arbitrarily set up three and only three possibilities without considering others. 4. Read a good book on rhetoric and critical thinking. If you think the "Lord, Liar, or Lunatic" discussion is an example of a good argument, you are in need of learning. 5. Read the FAQs again, especially "Constructing a Logical Argument." Ignore these instructions at your peril. Disobeying them leaves you open for righteous flaming. -- Maddi Hausmann madhaus@netcom.com Centigram Communications Corp San Jose California 408/428-3553

alt.atheism

xdtm is working looking at, as is ftptool. There really isn't anything of any quality that I've seen though, and I'm seriously considering writing one on my own. -- mike@hopper.acs.virginia.edu

comp.windows.x

Yes, you increase the RPM slip of a "boxer" type fan by installing a capacitor in series with the fan's power supply. The air flow of small 3.5 inch fans can be reduced by about 50% by using a 1 to 4 uF capacitor. Use a good grade nonpolarized unit with working voltage rating around 250 volts. Note that some impriical study is usually required to experimentally determine the best size capacitor for a given application. For DC powered applications, try the Radio Shack 12 volt box fan. It can run and start reliably from as low as about 4.5 VDC. It is exceptionally quiet, but at admittedly low flow. I wish I knew who made the fans for Radio Shack.

sci.electronics

:tarnold@vnet.IBM.COM (Todd W. Arnold) said in article <19930322.101356.617@almaden.ibm.com>: :>It's OK as long as you trust the end-user to stay out of your application :>program - or as long as it runs in a system where the user can't get to it. :>Otherwise, you can't stop him from finding the "load a module" code in your :>program, and simply bypassing the check for a valid module. The devious user :>can either modify the object code before running the program, or he can run :>the program under a debugger and change the instructions in memory. :There is a way to foil debuggers, by clearing the single step :interrupt, on which a debugger depends, every few instructions in :the sensitive areas of the code. This assumes the person is using the hardware debug instruction of an X86 type processor. It can be negated by NOP'ing the clear debug instruction, or by running the code on a machine simulator, like one I wrote as a senior project in college. It can bypass and trace practically anything one could write in software. Kind of like being on a Star Trek Holideck :-).

sci.crypt

I am trying to configure Zsoft's PC Paintbrush IV+ for use with my Logitech Scanman 32 (hand scanner), but I can't get Paintbrush to acknowledge the scanner. Is there anybody out there using Paintbrush with a scanner, if so, can you help me out? Thanks Luis Nobrega

comp.graphics

FOR SALE: IBM-compatible XT personal computer (DOS) Brand: Acer Age: 4.5 years Specs: 640K RAM 20 meg hard drive 5 -1/4 floppy drive Color monitor 2400 baud USRobotics internal modem Bundled with loads of software: word processing, communications, spreadsheet, games. A good computer that successfully got me through all of my BA, MS, and half of my PhD (I decided to switch to a Mac for my dissertation). Perfect for high school student, college student, or person who needs basic word processing, spreadsheet, and/or database capabilities. Best offer. Reply to Laura Gurak userglub@mts.rpi.edu

misc.forsale

You said it worked so well with tobacco. I was being fascisious(I can't spell worth a damn) Look, this is getting ridiculous, first, I think tobacco should be legal. Anybody who can't see the difference between tobacco and marijuana has got to be high.

talk.politics.misc

CDs ($9 ea inc shipping) --- Jesus Jones, DOUBT Residents, HEAVEN? REM, DOCUMENT Nymphs, SAD AND DAMNED single Tapes ----- Robert Plant, all solo stuff Led Zeppelin IV Tshirts ------- Robert Plant, Manic Nirvana tour Led Zeppelin, Symbols/Swansong black Bob Dylan, 1990 tour tie-dye

misc.forsale

Has anyone use Snooper or MacEKG or any other similar diagnostic software.Any comparisons/reviews on these products would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help Cheers --

comp.sys.mac.hardware

In PC Magazine April 27, 1993:29 "Although SCSI is twice as fasst as ESDI, 20% faster than IDE, and support up to 7 devices its acceptance ...has long been stalled by incompatability problems and installation headaches." note what it does NOT site as a factor: PRICE. int eh same article the PC would will get plug and play SCSI {from the article it seems you get plug and play SCSI-1 only since SCSI-2 in FULL implimentation has TEN NOT 7 devices.} SCSI-1 intergration is sited as another part of the MicroSoft Plug and play program.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Since I'm not all too keen on this area of hooking them up, I'm asking for help. I know better than to hook a 12v, 1a stepper line to one, unless it can take it; however what about if I've got a 24-60v stepper. What sort of curent limmiting circuitry would be involved (a small schematic would probably be helpfull). Also, I've looked into the TIPC2701N by TI, and I was wondering if I should use the same suggested (by you replying to this message) current limiting circuitry on each of the 7 mosfets in the package as that illustrated in the schematic (which you the replyer would hopefully help me with). ... hmm... different request... Thanks. _________________________________________________ Inspiration | ___ | comes to | \ o baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca | those who | ( ^ ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca | seek the | /-\ =] Baden de Bari [= | unknown. | | -------------------------------------------------

sci.electronics

Well, certainly in Archimedes case the description "while observing the phenomena in his bath" seems more accurate than "while meditating in his bath" -- it was, after all, a rather buoyancy intense environment.

sci.med

Who says there is no mineral rights to be given? Who says? The UN or the US Government? Major question is if you decide to mine the moon or Mars, who will stop you? The UN can't other than legal tom foolerie.. Can the truly inforce it? If you go to the moon as declare that you are now a soverign nation, who will stop you from doing it. Maybe not acknowledge you? Why can't a small company or corp or organization go an explore the great beyond of space? what right does earth have to say what is legal and what is not.. Maybe I am a few years ahead on this.. It is liek the old Catholic Church stating which was Portugals and what was Spains, and along came the Reformation and made it all null and void.. What can happen is to find a nation which is acknowledged, and offer your services as a space miner and then go mine the asteroids/mars/moon or what ever.. As long as yur sponsor does not get in trouble.. Basically find a country who wants to go into space, but can't for soem reason or another, but who will give you a "home".. Such as Saudia Arabia or whatever.. There are nations in the World who are not part of the UN, got to them and offer your services and such.. I know that sound crazy, but. is it.. Also once you have the means to mine the moon (or whatever) then just do it. The UN if done right can be made to be so busy with something else, they will not care.. If your worried about the US, do the same thing.. Why be limited by the short sighted people of earth.. After all they have many other things to worry about that if someone is mining the Moon or MArs or what ever.. Basically what I am saying is where is that drive of yeasteryears to go a little bit farther out, to do jus ta little bit more, and to tell the crown to piss off.. If my ancestors thought the way many today think, Id have been born in Central Europe just north of the Black Sea.. I just read a good book, "Tower of the Gods" Interesting..

sci.space

To: Dodge Dart collectors I have a 1964 Dodge (25th anniversary) Dart 273ci V8 wagon to turn into cash. My asking price is $300.00 although we can negotiate. The car currently resides in Union City, California. Thats on the east side of the San Francisco Bay Area in the state of California of the United states of America on the continent of North America of the planet Earth, third planetary body out from Sol, a mid range yellowish star in the Western Spiral Arm of the Milkyway Galaxy. toowhit: north of Silicon Valley if interested pleas contact Scott by the following means: internet sbrogii@tymnet.com home answering machine 510.489.6165 business voice mail 408.922.6547 loud yell & wave money out the window ^(not recommended in downtown urban environment)

misc.forsale

What in blazes is going on with Wayne Matson and gang down in Alabama? I also heard an unconfirmed rumor that Aerospace Ambassadors have disappeared. Can anyone else confirm??

sci.space

I have a request for those who would like to see Charley Wingate respond to the "Charley Challenges" (and judging from my e-mail, there appear to be quite a few of you.) It is clear that Mr. Wingate intends to continue to post tangential or unrelated articles while ingoring the Challenges themselves. Between the last two re-postings of the Challenges, I noted perhaps a dozen or more posts by Mr. Wingate, none of which answered a single Challenge. It seems unmistakable to me that Mr. Wingate hopes that the questions will just go away, and he is doing his level best to change the subject. Given that this seems a rather common net.theist tactic, I would like to suggest that we impress upon him our desire for answers, in the following manner: 1. Ignore any future articles by Mr. Wingate that do not address the Challenges, until he answers them or explictly announces that he refuses to do so. --or-- 2. If you must respond to one of his articles, include within it something similar to the following: "Please answer the questions posed to you in the Charley Challenges." Really, I'm not looking to humiliate anyone here, I just want some honest answers. You wouldn't think that honesty would be too much to ask from a devout Christian, would you? Nevermind, that was a rhetorical question.

alt.atheism

My insurance company encourages annual physicals, and at my age [42] i'm thinking that BIannual physicals, at least, might be a good idea. Therefore, i'm shopping for a GP. Might as well get a good one. Could the Assembled Net Wisdom suggest things i should look for, or point me to the FAQ archive if on this topic if there is one? Please EMail; i suspect that this topic is real Net Clutter bait.

sci.med

rec.motorcycles

Also in pure speculation: Parity errors in memory or previously known conditions that were waivered. "Yes that is an error, but we already knew about it" Any problem where they decided a backup would handle it. Any problem in an area that was not criticality 1,2,3..., that is, any problem in a system they decided they could do without. I'd be curious as to what the real meaning of the quote is.

sci.space

:P :P>My favorite reply to the "you are being too literal-minded" complaint is :P>that if the bible is really inspired by God and if it is really THAT :P>important to him, then he would make damn certain all the translators and :P>scribes and people interpreting and copying it were getting it right, :P>literally. If not, then why should I put ANY merit at all in something :P>that has been corrupted over and over and over by man even if it was :P>originally inspired by God? :P :PThe "corrupted over and over" theory is pretty weak. Comparison of the :Pcurrent hebrew text with old versions and translations shows that the text :Phas in fact changed very little over a space of some two millennia. This :Pshouldn't be all that suprising; people who believe in a text in this manner :Pare likely to makes some pains to make good copies.

alt.atheism

Archive-name: cryptography-faq/part09 Last-modified: 1993/4/15 FAQ for sci.crypt, part 9: Other Miscellany This is the ninth of ten parts of the sci.crypt FAQ. The parts are mostly independent, but you should read the first part before the rest. We don't have the time to send out missing parts by mail, so don't ask. Notes such as ``[KAH67]'' refer to the reference list in the last part. The sections of this FAQ are available via anonymous FTP to rtfm.mit.edu as /pub/usenet/news.answers/cryptography-faq/part[xx]. The Cryptography FAQ is posted to the newsgroups sci.crypt, sci.answers, and news.answers every 21 days. Contents: * What is the National Security Agency (NSA)? * What are the US export regulations? * What is TEMPEST? * What are the Beale Ciphers, and are they a hoax? * What is the American Cryptogram Association, and how do I get in touch? * Is RSA patented? * What about the Voynich manuscript? * What is the National Security Agency (NSA)? The NSA is the official security body of the U.S. government. It was given its charter by President Truman in the late 40's, and has continued research in cryptology till the present. The NSA is known to be the largest employer of mathematicians in the world, and is also the largest purchaser of computer hardware in the world. Governments in general have always been prime employers of cryptologists. The NSA probably possesses cryptographic expertise many years ahead of the public state of the art, and can undoubtedly break many of the systems used in practice; but for reasons of national security almost all information about the NSA is classified. Bamford's book [BAMFD] gives a history of the people and operations of the NSA. The following quote from Massey [MAS88] highlights the difference between public and private research in cryptography: ``... if one regards cryptology as the prerogative of government, one accepts that most cryptologic research will be conducted behind closed doors. Without doubt, the number of workers engaged today in such secret research in cryptology far exceeds that of those engaged in open research in cryptology. For only about 10 years has there in fact been widespread open research in cryptology. There have been, and will continue to be, conflicts between these two research communities. Open research is common quest for knowledge that depends for its vitality on the open exchange of ideas via conference presentations and publications in scholarly journals. But can a government agency, charged with responsibilities of breaking the ciphers of other nations, countenance the publication of a cipher that it cannot break? Can a researcher in good conscience publish such a cipher that might undermine the effectiveness of his own government's code-breakers? One might argue that publication of a provably-secure cipher would force all governments to behave like Stimson's `gentlemen', but one must be aware that open research in cryptography is fraught with political and ethical considerations of a severity than in most scientific fields. The wonder is not that some conflicts have occurred between government agencies and open researchers in cryptology, but rather that these conflicts (at least those of which we are aware) have been so few and so mild.'' * What are the US export regulations? In a nutshell, there are two government agencies which control export of encryption software. One is the Bureau of Export Administration (BXA) in the Department of Commerce, authorized by the Export Administration Regulations (EAR). Another is the Office of Defense Trade Controls (DTC) in the State Department, authorized by the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). As a rule of thumb, BXA (which works with COCOM) has less stringent requirements, but DTC (which takes orders from NSA) wants to see everything first and can refuse to transfer jurisdiction to BXA. The newsgroup misc.legal.computing carries many interesting discussions on the laws surrounding cryptographic export, what people think about those laws, and many other complex issues which go beyond the scope of technical groups like sci.crypt. Make sure to consult your lawyer before doing anything which will get you thrown in jail; if you are lucky, your lawyer might know a lawyer who has at least heard of the ITAR. * What is TEMPEST? TEMPEST is a standard for electromagnetic shielding for computer equipment. It was created in response to the discovery that information can be read from computer radiation (e.g., from a CRT) at quite a distance and with little effort. Needless to say, encryption doesn't do much good if the cleartext is available this way. * What are the Beale Ciphers, and are they a hoax? (Thanks to Jim Gillogly for this information and John King for corrections.) The story in a pamphlet by J. B. Ward (1885) goes: Thomas Jefferson Beale and a party of adventurers accumulated a huge mass of treasure and buried it in Bedford County, Virginia, leaving three ciphers with an innkeeper; the ciphers describe the location, contents, and intended beneficiaries of the treasure. Ward gives a decryption of the second cipher (contents) called B2; it was encrypted as a book cipher using the initial letters of the Declaration of Independence (DOI) as key. B1 and B3 are unsolved; many documents have been tried as the key to B1. Aficionados can join a group that attempts to solve B1 by various means with an eye toward splitting the treasure: The Beale Cypher Association P.O. Box 975 Beaver Falls, PA 15010 You can get the ciphers from the rec.puzzles FAQL by including the line: send index in a message to netlib@peregrine.com and following the directions. (There are apparently several different versions of the cipher floating around. The correct version is based on the 1885 pamphlet, says John King <kingj@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>.) Some believe the story is a hoax. Kruh [KRU88] gives a long list of problems with the story. Gillogly [GIL80] decrypted B1 with the DOI and found some unexpected strings, including ABFDEFGHIIJKLMMNOHPP. Hammer (president of the Beale Cypher Association) agrees that this string couldn't appear by chance, but feels there must be an explanation; Gwyn (sci.crypt expert) is unimpressed with this string. * What is the American Cryptogram Association, and how do I get in touch? The ACA is an organization devoted to cryptography, with an emphasis on cryptanalysis of systems that can be attacked either with pencil-and-paper or computers. Its organ ``The Cryptogram'' includes articles and challenge ciphers. Among the more than 50 cipher types in English and other languages are simple substitution, Playfair, Vigenere, bifid, Bazeries, grille, homophonic, and cryptarithm. Dues are $15 for one year (6 issues); more outside of North America; less for students under 18 and seniors. Subscriptions should be sent to ACA Treasurer, 18789 West Hickory St., Mundelein, IL 60060. * Is RSA patented? Yes. The patent number is 4,405,829, filed 12/14/77, granted 9/20/83. For further discussion of this patent, whether it should have been granted, algorithm patents in general, and related legal and moral issues, see comp.patents and misc.legal.computing. For information about the League for Programming Freedom see [FTPPF]. Note that one of the original purposes of comp.patents was to collect questions such as ``should RSA be patented?'', which often flooded sci.crypt and other technical newsgroups, into a more appropriate forum. * What about the Voynich manuscript? nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) says there is a mailing list on the subject. the address to write to subscribe to the VMS mailing list is: <voynich-request@rand.org> the ftp archive is: rand.org:/pub/voynich

sci.crypt

hey... I'm pretty new to the wonderful world of motorcycles... I just bought a used 81 Kaw KZ650 CSR from a friend.... I was just wondering what kind of saddle bags I could get for it (since I know nothing about them) are there bags for the gas tank? how much would some cost, and how much do they hold? thanks for your advice!!! I may be new to riding, but I love it already!!!! :)

rec.motorcycles

The point that I forgot to bring up here (and this has nothing to do with being a gang member or not) is that it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon in this area (or in the state of illinois for that matter). This is not to say that people in Illinois don't carry concealed weapons illegaly but practicing like that when there are other people around wasn't too bright of an idea. I agree. If you don't practice at all and carry a gun for self-defense you most likely would be in big trouble if a situation were to arise.

talk.politics.guns

Can anyone recommend a good place for reasonably priced bike paint jobs, preferably but not essentially in the London area. Thanks Lisa Rowlands

rec.motorcycles

I'm looking for a better method to back up files. Currently using a MaynStream 250Q that uses DC 6250 tapes. I will need to have a capacity of 600 Mb to 1Gb for future backups. Only DOS files. I would be VERY appreciative of information about backup devices or manufacturers of these products. Flopticals, DAT, tape, anything. If possible, please include price, backup speed, manufacturer (phone #?), and opinions about the quality/reliability. Please E-Mail, I'll send summaries to those interested. Thanx in advance,

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

It is more appropriate to address netters with their names as they appear in their signatures (I failed to do so since you did not bother to sign your posting). Not only because it is the polite thing to do, but also to avoid addressing ladies with "Mr.", as you have done. Secondly, the island of which the name is more correctly spelled as Cyprus has never been Greek, but rather, it has been home to a bi-communal society formed of Greeks and Turks. It seems that you know as little about the history and the demography of the island, as you know about the essence of Turkey's military intervention to it under international agreements. Be that as it may, an analogy between an act of occupation in history and what is going on today on Azerbaijani land, can only be drawn with the expansionist policy that Armenia is now pursuing. But, I could agree that it is not for us to issue diagnoses to the political conduct of countries, and promulgate them in such terminology as "itchy-bitchy"... Onur Yalcin

talk.politics.mideast

Its time for a little house cleaning after my PC upgrade. I have the following for sale: Leading Technology PC partner (286) sytsem. includes 80286 12mhz intel cpu 85Mb IDE drive (brand new - canabalized from new system) 3.5 and 5.24 floppies 1 Meg ram vga congroller kb 5.0 dos on hard drive need to get $300 for system AT style kb - $20 Logitech serial trackman with latest drivers $45 Amiga 500 with 2.0 roms installed and 1Mb video ram and 4Mb addon ram 501 clone (512K ram and clock) Roctec addon disk IDE disk controller includes SCSI option Quantum 105mb SCSI drive with lots of software 4mb ( 4 x 1mb simm) installed in roctec Amiga DOS 2.04 ICD Flicker Fixer II Asking $500 for system, I will part out the amiga, make an offer! amiga Software Cando - $25 Textcraft Plus - $5 tetris & welltris - $5 for both Sword of Sodam - $5 Qix - $5 Carmen Sandiego - $5 Crossword Construction Kit - $10 Canadian Prototype Replicas CD rom Fast File System - $30 Hypermedia CD rom containing fred fish disks 1-480 includes registration card, low cost upgrades. $20 Amiga hardware Reference Man - $5 Amiga to vga monitor cable - $5 two joysticks - $5 each Prices DO NOT include shipping. Contact Rich Garrett Email - richg@sequent.com HOME (503) 591-5466 WORK (503) 578-3822

misc.forsale

This is an interesting question to ponder. Did Brad/Ali's sickness make Ayatollah-style Islam attractive to him or did this new religion that Brad/Ali has formally adopted give him this sickness?

talk.politics.mideast

Bingo. Nothing evil at all. There's no actual harm in what they're doing, only how they represent it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- .sig files are like strings ... every yo-yo's got one.

sci.space

For Sale: One Boss Turbo Overdrive Pedal for guitar, bass, or keyboards--$35 or best offer. Thanks!! Respond to hw26 or call 268-4841.

misc.forsale

Just heard on the news that Mike Keenan formerly of the Blackhawks, Flyers, and General of a Siberian Prison has just signed to coach the Rangers. The Rangers, who won the President's Cup last year have slipped just a bit at the end of the season and are destined to finish last behind the lowly Flyers. The Flyers' fans are going to be disappointed on Keenans decision, because they were very interested in him. Oh well. Go CAPS!!!!!!! Connin

rec.sport.hockey

I was under the impression that the objective is to find conclusive evidence that the puck _did_ cross the line. And, the replays I saw showed fairly conclusively that the puck did _not_ cross the goal line at any time anyway. Somebody screwed up.

rec.sport.hockey

-*---- I agree with everything that Lee Lady wrote in her previous post in this thread. In case this puzzles people, I would like to expand on two of her comments. One of the most important (and difficult) aspects of reasoning about empirical investigation lies in understanding the context, scope, and importance of the various arguments and pieces of evidence that are marshalled for a claim. Some errors break the back of a piece of research, some leave a hole that needs to be filled in, and some are trivial in their importance. It is a grave mistake to confuse these. Past snippets from this thread: Back to Lee Lady: These posters are making the mistake that I have previously criticized of adhering to a methodological recipe. A "carefully designed and controlled study" is neither always possible nor always important. (On the other hand, if someone is proposing a remedy that supposedly alleviates a chronic medical problem, we have enough knowledge of the errors that have plagued *this* kind of claim to ask for a "carefully designed and controlled study" to alleviate our skepticism.) Rules such as "support the hypothesis by a carefully designed and controlled study" are too narrow to apply to *all* investigation. I think that the requirements for particular reasoning to be convincing depends greatly on the kinds of mistakes that have occurred in past reasoning about the same kinds of things. (To reuse the previous example, we know that conclusions from uncontrolled observations of the treatment of chronic medical problems are notoriously problematic.)

sci.med

First of all, the chip doesn't do that. It runs at 16 megabits/second, which is far beyond what you need for voice. It's obviously intended for data as well, and on high-speed lines at that. Second -- what advantage is there to doing the processing in the phone? I don't care how fancy that chip is; it's not as fancy as the roomful of analyzers at Fort Meade running the program they'll have 5 years from now. They can't update every Clipper chip that's out there.

sci.crypt

A long-time reader of t.p.g, I am also a staunch RKBA supporter, yet I own no firearms. Amen, brother. -- Nicholas Sylvain (sylvain@netcom.com) --- I am the NRA

talk.politics.guns

We are trying to install a donated hard disk (Miniscribe vintage 1988) on a supercheap ancient Compaq XT for use in education. The only problem is that the supercheap Compaq didn't come with the manual and I haven't been able to figure out how to start the SETUP program. I began using PCs after 286s were invented, so I have a couple of basic questions: 1. Did XT-class computers even *have* SETUP programs? 2. If they did (or, do), how do I access it? If anybody has any good advice on how to proceed or what to do next or what to look out for, please let me know. E-mail is best, but I'll also be watching the newsgroup postings. Thanks in advance, -Robert --

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

You can probably get this information by calling your public health department in your county (in Pittsburgh, they give the shots free, as well). There are bulletins in medical libraries that give recommendations, or you could call the infectious diseases section of the medicine department of your local medical school. You also will probably want to talk about Malaria prophylaxis. You will need your doctor to get the prescription. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."

sci.med

Could someone please post the rosters for the College Hockey All-Star game East and West Rosters? Thanks in advance.

rec.sport.hockey

Help! I'm trying to run dxterm's (DECs' xterm) on a DECstation 5000/240 (Ultrix 4.3, X11R4, Motif 1.1.3) with the DISPLAY variable set to an Apollo DN2500 (Domain/OS 10.3, X11R4, Motif ?.?). I get these errors appearing on the DECstation: X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "<Key>apCharDel " to type VirtualBinding X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "<Key>apCopy " to type VirtualBinding X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "<Key>apCut " to type VirtualBinding X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "<Key>apPaste " to type VirtualBinding X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "<Key>apUpBox " to type VirtualBinding X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "<Key>apDownBox " to type VirtualBinding X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "<Key>apRightBar " to type VirtualBinding X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "<Key>apLeftBar " to type VirtualBinding Segmentation fault Any ideas? Is it a Motif problem...are the DEC and Apollo versions of Motif incompatible? Or something to do with XKeysymDB? (xterms run fine on DEC displaying on Apollo..arggh) I need to run dxterm because the package we are using on the DEC's, Oracle Case, uses dxterm by default, and we have a lab of Apollo workstations we would like to run Oracle from. Andrew "Alf" Leahy, alf@st.nepean.uws.edu.au

comp.windows.x

But, you wouldn't know what red *was*, and you certainly couldn't judge it subjectively. And, objectivity is not applicable, since you are wanting to discuss the merits of red.

alt.atheism

An excellent reference for non-technical readers on the ORION system is "The Starflight Handbook", by Eugene Mallove and Gregory Matloff, ISBN 0-471-61912-4. The relevant chapter is 4: Nuclear Pulse Propulsion. The book also contains lots of technical references for the more academically inclined. Enjoy!

sci.space

I have 2 foot switches for sale. They're great for guitar amps, and keyboards. Each is about 1" in diameter with a 6' (or so) cable. I'd like $15 for both, but make me an offer, who knows... -Jason

misc.forsale

I think you would lose your money. Julius was actually rather tall for a Roman. He did go on record as favouring small soldiers though. Thought they were tougher and had more guts. He was probably right if you think about it. As for Napoleon remember that the French avergae was just about 5 feet and that height is relative! Did he really have a complex? ObSpace : We have all seen the burning candle from High School that goes out and relights. If there is a large hot body placed in space but in an atmosphere, exactly how does it heat the surroundings? Diffusion only? Joseph Askew

sci.space

hmmmm.. not sure, since no such beast exists.. i can tell you another though.. you won't catch me dead in a GMC Syclone or Typhoon either, 1000 bhp or not.. not even the fact that Clint Eastwood has one. just my taste, no rational reasons for it. CAR just tested the S4 wagon with 5 banger and 6 speed manual. Rave review except for Servotronic.. Audi is trying to recoup the development costs for the V8, and since the V8 is not selling well, they are sticking it into the 100 series cars.. Neat marketing trick, eh? yeah, a 100 V8-32v wouldn't be a bad idea as competition for the upcoming bimmer 530/540i would it? maybe they can use a 3.6 liter version to avoid conflicts with the v8 model.. then strip off all the luxo-garbage. let the S4 remain with the flared arches and fat tires to go fight with the M5.... maybe turn up the boost a wee bit to bump bhp up to say 450 or so.. :-) while keeping the 100 V8 with mercedes 500E style subtlety. blah blah blah....

rec.autos

[stuff about autobahn and safety of sho at speed deleted] The Mustang is a much worse case of design irresponsibility than the SHO. Its hard to predicatbaly drift a stock Mustang because of the suspension. Yes. When i think Mustang, I think school-bus + F16 motor. In my mind the Mustang should be fitted with a speed limiter at 80-90 or so. It just isn't safe, check out your local junkyard, Mustangs outnumber other cars by a proportion way in excess of sales in junkyards. I find it astonishing the CU or somesuchlike has not jumped on the Mustang for poor brakes in relation to power. Ford should at least standardize on the SVO rear brakes for all 5.0's. True of Northern Europe, latin countries are something else. Kindof true. remember they were build by adolf in the '30's. Yes. "Autobahn" is the german word for freeway. Other countries have different names for loose equivalents; autostrada, autoroute, motorway etc. Europe did seem on the brink of a 130kmh limit. It hasn't passed as far as I know. typical speeds in western europe are much higher than the US. Law enforcement is negligible in my experience (comapred to the US) as there is no revenue enhancement motivation. The things you really notice are the higher speed differentials, and the more professional attitude to driving. You just never see two cars running parallel at 55.1 mph oblivious to all around them. You're wrong. GTI's go this fast. Just kind of noisy, not the ideal autobahn car. A lot of times you see cars being driven with the drivers foot on the floor. How do I know? - when you're not making any ground on the identical car in front of you! If something happens at 130-150 you're dead, but the same goes for much over 35. Driving at high speed forces you to concentrate. I feel much safer driving 130+ on the autobahn than 60-80 in typical US traffic because most people seem to be awake. I've never seen any driver reading a book on an autobahn, I see it all too often in the US. Craig It just doesn't *seem* fast after 30 minutes or so of aclimation. everybody drives that fast, no big deal.

rec.autos

Who is the you Arabs here. Since you are replying to my article you are assuming that I am an Arab. Well, I'm not an Arab, but I think you are brain is full of shit if you really believe what you said. The bombardment of civilian and none civilian areas in Lebanon by Israel is very consistent with its policy of intimidation. That is the only policy that has been practiced by the so called only democracy in the middle east!

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From x51948b1@usma1.USMA.EDU Tue Apr 20 10:28:47 1993 Received: from usma1.usma.edu by trotter.usma.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-eef) id AA01628; Tue, 20 Apr 93 11:27:50 EDT Received: by usma1.usma.edu (5.51/25-eef) id AA03219; Tue, 20 Apr 93 11:20:18 EDT Message-Id: <9304201520.AA03219@usma1.usma.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 11:20:17 EDT From: x51948b1@usma1.USMA.EDU (Peckham David CDT) To: cs1442au@decster.uta.edu Subject: Problem. Status: OR -------------------- I am running a Unisys PW2 386SX20 with DOS 6. My problem, even when I had DOS 5.0, is that when I have EMM386 loaded I can't CTL-ALT-DEL. If I do, the computer beeps a few times rapidly and hangs. Then I have to use the obscure reset (requires a screwdriver or pencil) or the power switch to reboot. Does anyone have a solution to this problem? E-mail me at x51948b1@usma1.usma.edu Dave --------------------- Thanks, dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------- David S. Peckham | Internet : x51948b1@usma1.usma.edu U.S. Military Academy | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Jason Brown cs1442au@decster.uta.edu

comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

I've also found that the electronic starters on these "instant-on" compact fluourescent lamp fixtures kick out interference that nukes my cordless phone. (I can hear it in my guitar amplifier, too...)

sci.electronics

Just thought I would mention that Sony no longer manufactures the CPD- 1304 because of several manufacturing flaws. The new model is now the 1430, which just like Apple's new Sony Trinitrom CLAIMS to be 14 inches. I'm not sure of the details on the defects, but I work at our schools bookstore and can tell you that nearly half of them were returned with some kind of defect or another.

comp.sys.mac.hardware

Electronics Art's Ultrabots game for sale with book and original 3.5" disks in the original box. - $22 or best offer.

misc.forsale

(reference line trimmed) [...] Yes. Well, for example, the goal of "natural" morality is the survival and propogation of the species. Another example of a moral system is presented within the Declaration of Independence, which states that we should be guaranteed life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You see, to have a moral system, we must define the purpose of the system. That is, we shall be moral unto what end? Well, murder violates the golen rule, which is certainly a pillar of most every moral system. However, I am not assuming that our current system and the manner of its implementation are objectively moral. I think that it is a very good approximation, but we can't be perfect. Well, "objective" would assume a system based on clear and fundamental concepts, while "arbitary" implies no clear line of reasoning.

alt.atheism

Hello again netters, I finally received the information about Imagine for the PC. They are presently shipping Version 2.0 of the software and will release Version 3.0 in the first quarter of 1993 (or so they say). The upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0 is $100.00. To purchase Imagine 2.0, it costs $495.00 or if you are upgrading from another eligible (call them for info) modeler, it is only $200.00 plus shipping & handling. It requires a PC with 4 Megs a Math Coprocessor, and Dos 5.0 or up and a Microsoft Mouse and SVGA card. Thanks for all your replies about the product. I have received many contrasting replies, but once I scrounge the money together, I think I will take the plunge. Thanks again. Here is the info for Impulse if you want to find out more or get the sheet they sent. Impulse Inc. 8416 Xerxes Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55444 1-800-328-0184 Thanks again for all your replies. Scott -- Scott Snowiss sasst11+@.pitt.edu

comp.graphics

The best info I have seen so far is the article "Joystick Metrics: Measuring physical properties through the PC's joystick port" by Michael Covington in the May 1985 issue of PC Tech Journal. It talks about how to read all kinds of things (voltage, current, resistance) in BASIC, and even includes code for a simple "oscilloscope" display. It's possible to read the joystick port directly if you don't want to use BASIC. The detailed information for this is in the PC Technical Reference under Options and Adapters. You have to provide some millisecond resolution timing functions, but that's a subject which has appeared many times in articles from Dr. Dobb's, Circuit Cellar Ink, etc. Look for the public domain ztimer package on wuarchive. Good Luck,

sci.electronics

Ann Jackson (ajackson@cs.ubc.ca) wrote on 5 May: I would like to submit the following which helped me enormously. If it has already been posted, I apologize. It seems that during the Middle Ages, it was customary for pastors to explain the Trinity to their parishoners by analogy to water. Water is water, but can exist in three forms--liquid, ice and vapor. Thus it is possible for one essence to exist in three forms. And recently, the pastor of my church drew an analogy, which I also found useful--A woman is often percieved by others in three ways, depending on their relationship to her--a mother, a wife and an employee in a business. Thus, it seems clear to me that the essence of God can subsist in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit or, depending on one's particular need for Him.

soc.religion.christian

I'm an new to this. Having found some files (public) to look into, I ftp'ed them to a system I have access to. I then used kermit to transmit them via modem to my host computer, a PC-based file system. I access internet through modem access to a university mainframe. From the PC file server, I pull the files to a disk, and then pull them from disk to a SGI Indigo (the SGI is not networked yet). When I try to uncompress and un-tar the files, they either come out as garbage or I get an error in the tar process about directories being invalid. What I'm wondering about is the transfer of UNIX files (compressed, binary,ascii) about multiple platforms. My guess is that it is the copy to a 'dos' disk that is screwing things up. Any help is appreciated. bob

comp.windows.x

I totally agree. But how do you propose we take government back? They obviously don't listen to the people or want the people to know who is responsibile for what (a person telnetted the site of the Clipper chip release, to see what the entity 'clipper' was, and got a few lists. BUt when another person tried a bit later, the commands were disabled) Does not sound like an Administration that wants to have any accountability or information they don't control given to the people. The secret development and implimentation of the Clipper Chip decision further backs that up. You can bet unaurhorized encryption methods and software will be considered 'terrorist tools' and also subject to civil forfeiture, along with the systems that are running it. YOU WATCH, SEE IF I AM WRONG. The government is not going to be very cooperative about the people taking it back. And they have all the resources, unlimited access to the media for propeganda, and almost all the guns (soon to be ALL the guns if Clinton's agenda succeeds)... Those that do not play ball? Waco might be a good example of what to expect... The warrant (just released) stated the reason for the raid was the BDs spent a very large sum for weapons, over an undetermined amount of time. I don't recall spending a lot of money on guns, etc being illegal ... yet, that is. Clinton might go down in history as the worst thing to ever happen to the US of A. ... Now to be known as the 'Peoples Socalist Democratic Republic of America' (PSDRA). Big Brother is LISTENING!!! Hail Big Brother... (and Sister...?) only ten years late!!!

sci.crypt

my $.02 - Yes and No. I do not believe the above scenario is not possible. Either they are believing and living (in at least some part) led by God, else they are not. Believing (intellectually, but waiting(?)) is not enough. Especially important to remember is that no one can judge whether you are so committed, nor can you judge someone else. I guess the closest we can come to know someone's situation is listening to their own statements. This can be fallible, as is our sense of communion one with another. Regarding this passage, we need to remember that this is a letter to a church (at Laodicea), people who are Of the Body of Christ. (Rev.3:14-16) He talks about their works. A translation could say that he says their lack of concern makes him sick (to the point of throwing up). Right, saving is by faith alone, except that faith does not come alone, if you catch the two meanings. I can offer the explanation that Jesus would that we were either "on fire for Him" or so cold we knew we were not in His will and thus could be made aware of our separation. This is admonishment for His children, not eternal damnation.

soc.religion.christian

I don't know any way except to see what modifiers are on in th Keypress event. Of course if there is some reason why you need to always know the state of modifiers even if your windows don't have the keyborads focus you can always ask for KeyPress events from the root window. Then you get all the KeyPresses and you always know what have been pressed. I think this is just a question of how to implement XLookupString. You can always write another function that interprets the KeyPresses as you like. You can look at the implementation of XLookupString from the Xlib sources and then modify it a little bit.

comp.windows.x

[Several people were involved in trying to figure out who first used the phrase "God-shaped hole". --clh] "There is a God shaped vacuum in all of us" (or something to that effect) is generally attributed to Blaise Pascal. What I want to know is how can you have a God shaped vacuum inside of you if God is in fact infinite (or omnipresent)? =========================================================================

soc.religion.christian

> most of their leaders are stupid, and/or not independent, and/or It's not relevant whether I agree with you or not, there is some reasonable thought in what you say here an I appreciate your point. However, I would make 2 remarks: - you forgot about hate, and this is not only at government level. - It's not only 'arab' governments. Now, about taugh talk and arrogance, we are adults, aren't we ? Do you listen to tough talk of american politicians ? or switch the channel ? I would rather be 'intimidated' by some dummy 'talking tough' then by a bomb ready to blow under my seat in B747.

talk.politics.mideast

In <1993Apr15.045651.6892@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@midway.uchicago.edu sez: Even if Brett's eventual-return figures were correct -- and they clearly weren't -- he'd still be wrong about the cause for the '86 blip because he fails to consider 2 basic factors: 1) As Ted notes, not everyone is a long-term investor. One might find oneself, as I did in late 1986, anticipating expenses in the near term that require selling off holdings. Given the choice between waiting a few weeks (and taking an extra tax hit) or selling in December with preferential tax treatment, only a fool would choose the former. 2) The fact that Brett can now construct _post hoc_ calculations of what would have been more beneficial to investors is in many respects beside the point. There was plenty of _Money_-style advice given to unsophisticated investors in late 1986 to "sell now and save on taxes." In case anyone missed it, there was no shortage of similar advice late last year (in the NYTimes, e.g.), even though that advice was based not on the foregone conclusion of enacted law (as in 1986), but merely on the *assumption* that Clinton would raise tax rates (without capping CG taxes, contrary to the current proposal). It's nice to think that investors always behave in their optimal economic interest. Like assuming weightless ropes and frictionless pulleys, though, this sort of thinking often fails to describe accurately what happens in the real world.

talk.politics.misc

The Greeks did try to invade Cyprus just before the Turkish intervention: They failed. Just for your info.

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it seems the 200 miles of trailering in the rain has rusted my bike's headers. the metal underneath is solid, but i need to sand off the rust coating and repaint the pipes black. any recommendations for paint and application of said paint? thanks!

rec.motorcycles

What "it may think is right" may be exactly what the user wants. Assuming that your application "has reason to know better" is, IMHO, anti-social. If I start your application with a -geometry option are you going to ignore that as well? There's really no way to force a window manager to do much of anything if it's managing your window. You can ask, you can hint, but there's no guarantee that you're going to get what you want.

comp.windows.x

For sale 1986 Harley FLHTC Liberty Edition. Good condition. Many extras. Asking $7500. Located in Rhode Island.

rec.motorcycles

Well, these are Armenian and Jewish scholars, not me. Denying the obvious? Source: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918. University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13. "The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem. Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897, however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000 inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia." (See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of Transcaucasia). In 1920, '0' percent Turk. "We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the scattered bones of the dead." Ohanus Appressian "Men Are Like That" p. 202. "In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul. It is in our power to tear away the veil of illusion that some of us create for ourselves. It certainly is possible to severe the artificial life-support system of an imagined 'ethnic purity' that some of us falsely trust as the only structure that can support their heart beats in this alien land." (Sahak Melkonian - 1920 - "Preserving the Armenian purity") <1993Apr24.042427.29323@walter.bellcore.com> ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Dusan Chukurov 21324) No kidding. The Armenians tore apart the Ottoman Empire's eastern provinces, massacred 2.5 million defenseless Turkish women, children and elderly people, burned thousands of Turkish and Kurdish villages and exterminated the entire Turkish population of the Armenian dictatorship between 1914-1920. Such outrageous sleight of hand that is still employed today in Armenia brings a depth and verification to the Turkish genocide that is hard to match. A hundred years ago Armenians again thought they could get whatever they wanted through sheer terror like the Russian anarchists that they accepted as role models. Several Armenian terror groups like ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle resorted to the same tactics in the 1980s, butchering scores of innocent Turks and their families in the United States and Europe. It seems that they are doing it again, at a different scale, in fascist x-Soviet Armenia today. A merciless massacre of the civilian population of the small Azeri town of Khojali (Pop. 6000) in Karabagh, Azerbaijan, is reported to have taken place on the night of Feb. 28 under a coordinated military operation of the 366th mechanized division of the CIS army and the Armenian insurgents. Close to 1000 people are reported to have been massacred. Elderly and children were not spared. Many were badly beaten and shot at close range. A sense of rage and helplessness has overwhelmed the Azeri population in face of the well armed and equipped Armenian insurgency. The neighboring Azeri city of Aghdam outside of the Karabagh region has come under heavy Armenian artillery shelling. City hospital was hit and two pregnant women as well as a new born infant were killed. Azerbaijan is appealing to the international community to condemn such barbaric and ruthless attacks on its population and its sovereignty. Serdar Argic

talk.politics.mideast

Thank you, Brad/Ali, for warning us about the dangers of propaganda. It's funny, though, coming from you. Who is it that executes these "pin-point attacks" on Israelis? The guys in the white hats or the ones in the black hats? Neither? You mean that they are just civilians, farmers, teachers, school children? Well, maybe they ARE terrorists, after all? And maybe that "propaganda" was correct, too? Hmm?

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