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either a sign of easy money, or another crash
## Speaker_1: ##
The market will definitely crash. I saw an old guy looking at AMD charts during lunch today. NOT A GOOD SIGN
BAD
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Why is people investing bad
## Walls1337bot: ##
Old (assume cautious/ maybe retired) people putting money in trendy tech stocks is a bad sign
## Speaker_2: ##
That doesn't answer the question
## Walls1337bot: ##
When risk adverse investors start taking big risks because the market is all hyped up, they tend to lose their homes when the crash happens. See 2008 for more info.
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Source other than tweet?
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Looks like hes referencing [this](https://www.wsj.com/articles/details-emerge-in-u-s-s-trade-truce-with-china-1544360520?mod=mhp)
## Speaker_0: ##
Thanks! Copy paste for non subscribers?
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A week after President Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinpingstruck a trade truce in Buenos Aires, details of the ceasefire are becoming clear—big Chinese purchases, tough negotiations and shifting deadlines to finish a deal.
Interviews with officials in both countries, briefed on the Trump-Xi talks, give a fuller picture of the agreement the two men reached. The two sides agreed on a negotiating period of about 90 days, during which the U.S. won’t raise tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese goods to 25%, as it had planned to do on Jan. 1.
Beijing and Washington also agreed that China will purchase large amounts of goods and services, with China pledging to announce soybean and natural-gas purchases in the coming weeks, said officials in both nations. Beijing is also considering reducing tariffs on U.S. automobiles.
Under the terms of the understanding, purchases and tariff reductions aren’t required until a deal is struck, but both sides believe that early purchases would serve as a kind of down payment and give a boost to negotiations. Beijing wants to convince the U.S. to roll back tariffs on Chinese goods.
The heart of the negotiations will deal with much thornier issues, officials say, including broader access for U.S. firms to Chinese markets, prohibitions on intellectual property theft and an end to alleged Chinese pressure on U.S. firms to share technology when doing business in China.
In the Dec. 1 talks between Mr. Xi and Mr. Trump, he and aides laid out how they might handle technology issues, say officials.
Trade talks, though, could run aground after the arrest in Canada of the daughter of the founder of Huawei Technologies Co., Meng Wangzhou, for allegedly helping the telecommunications giant evade U.S. sanctions on Iran. The U.S. wants Ms. Meng extradited to the U.S. The imbroglio has produced a nationalist backlash in China that could make it difficult for Mr. Xi to make concessions to the U.S. In a hearing in Vancouver on Friday Ms. Meng’s attorney said the U.S. allegation would be “hotly contested.”
Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng summoned Canada’s ambassador in Beijing on Saturday to lodge a “strong protest” over Ms. Meng’s arrest, according to a statement by the ministry. Mr. Le called on Canada to immediately free Ms. Meng, warning that otherwise it would face consequences.
So far, though, Mr. Xi has instructed his lieutenants to follow through on the agreement he reached with President Trump, according to Chinese officials.
The specifics of the U.S.-China agreement were initially unclear. After the Trump-Xi dinner, on the heels of the Group-of-20 nations leaders’ summit, the U.S. put out a statement saying China had agreed to trade concessions, purchases and the 90-day deadline. At a briefing in Buenos Aires, Chinese officials were silent on the terms of the deal including the 90-day deadline. China since has publicly confirmed the deadline.
Mr. Trump tweeted on Dec. 4 that the talks would last 90 days “unless extended.” His National Economic Council director, Larry Kudlow, also has indicated some wiggle room.
U.S. officials have gone on TV to discuss the negotiations. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Fox News that China would make “additional purchases of $1.2 trillion dollars” and “if that’s real, that will close the trade deficit.” Last year, the U.S. shipped $188 billion of goods and services to Beijing and ran a $336 billion deficit in total trade.
A Treasury official didn’t say over what time period the increase would occur. In the past few months, Mr. Xi has touted a Chinese Commerce Ministry report saying China would import a total of $2.5 trillion in services globally over five years.
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has said that China would make ‘additional purchases of $1.2 trillion dollars.’Photo: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg News
The ramp-up in Chinese purchases would be at “such an extraordinary rate that while it’s not impossible, it’s not likely” to occur, said David Dollar, a Brookings Institution China scholar who was Treasury’s representative in Beijing during the Obama presidency.
The most complex topic the two sides agreed to discuss involves intellectual property protection. Beijing has denied U.S. allegations that it requires foreign companies, seeking to do business in China, to hand over technology. But as part of the Argentine agreement, Beijing showed willingness to address longstanding U.S. complaints over a lack of IP protection in China, with Chinese officials saying it is in the country’s interest to strengthen enforcement of existing rules and laws.
That is an issue of particular importance to U.S. business as well. “China should take immediate actions to quickly resolve a number of ongoing cases involving IP theft and discrimination affecting U.S. companies,” said Myron Brilliant, executive vice president at U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
The U.S. looks at the tariffs it has imposed on Beijing imports—$250 billion so far—as a way to enforce any deal. Officials say tariffs won’t be removed unless Beijing not only agrees to changes but puts them into effect. The U.S. could also impose additional tariffs after the 90-day period. Several officials compared the plan to the U.S.’s position on North Korea of not removing sanctions until Pyongyang eliminates nuclear weapons.
There are two near-term tests of whether the Buenos Aires agreement will defuse trade tensions. The first is whether China rapidly delivers on pledges to purchase U.S. agricultural and energy products. The second is how quickly Mr. Xi’s economic envoy, Vice Premier Liu He, heads to Washington for higher-level discussions. In Buenos Aires, Mr. Trump told Mr. Xi that U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, who has taken a hard line on China, would be leading the talks.
Before the disclosure of the Huawei case, Mr. Liu had planned to lead a 30-member trade delegation to Washington in the week of Dec. 10, according to people briefed on the matter. It is unclear whether that plan has been affected by Ms. Meng’s arrest.
Both leaders have important reasons to keep the trade talks on track. Mr. Trump has been unnerved by the declines in the stock market, say officials, which have been blamed in part on the uncertain outcome of trade talks.
Mr. Xi wants to bolster the Chinese economy which is coming under growing stress, partly because of the uncertainty over the bilateral economic relationship with the U.S. Customs data released Saturday show an unexpected drop in growth of both Chinese exports and imports last month, portending weaker growth.
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Thanks
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When they miss growth numbers and go on an expedition to Earth's core you will be remembered.
Edit: Turns out they even overshot earths core, next stop Chyna.
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Any reason to think this?
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Their shitty tv shows and movies
Also everyone expects them to blow the numbers out of the water, so even if they meet expectations....
## Speaker_1: ##
I...like them. And besides I play shitty tv shows and movies to distract from my horrid existence.
## Walls1337bot: ##
That's uhhhhh not how calls work. It sounds like you should just buy the stock
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## Speaker_0: ##
So the S&P 500 inversely correlates with pork futures?
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Looks like they are actually correlated. Compare [this](https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/pb/charts) to the VOO chart
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https://www.restfinance.com/Restaurant-Finance-Across-America/December-2016/Why-McDonalds-Offers-the-McRib-Sometimes-But-Not-All-Of-The-Time/
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Huh, I guess they started selling them again because of the recent dip in prices. Is McRib a leading indicator for recovery from October?
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fuck tendies, were gonna make some porkies with this insider knowledge
## Walls1337bot: ##
Let's catch this challah
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https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/7lhedf/are_the_higher_expense_ratios_in_vanguardspydr_vs
How's losing money in your Robinhood account going?
## Speaker_1: ##
This is like your wife catching you cheating because you got exposed by a hooker, but the hooker is also a tranny, point is, you're gay.
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Oddly specific example. Are you, by chance, a faggot who lost his wife when the hooker who turned out to be a tranny ratted you out?
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Let's be real here, it doesn't just "turn out" that the hooker is a tranny.
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It turns up? Am I rite?
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good idea; i didn't realize those odds were so favorable. 4 years is a long time for a man whose never read the constitution. Plus trump is pretty well known for getting into legal problems. The only downside is that it doesn't include him leaving office for other reasons.
## Speaker_1: ##
Didnt stop him from getting elected, not gonna stop him from being president.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Well he's not president yet. Sooooo
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neither are these hands but you can still catch them bitch boy
## Walls1337bot: ##
the fuck is this guy on?
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## Speaker_0: ##
If you’re not buying ‘stangs at 24% apr 6 year loans you don’t understand the value of TORQUE
## Speaker_1: ##
I’m pretty sure only E-3s can get to that level of autism.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I bought a Camaro at 8% as an O1 like a giant douche so no monopolies on that. At least I didn’t try to marry a stripper.
## Speaker_2: ##
Oh so you married the "waitress" and couldn't figure out why she spends weeknights out with her friends or how she cleared $80k working 16 hours/week at Chili's.
## Walls1337bot: ##
It’s funny cause it’s true. We are all so stupid.
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## Speaker_0: ##
No holdings? Difficult to read chart?
Fuck off.
## Speaker_1: ##
1) I already closed out the positions in a panic once I saw my gains evaporate
2) In what way is a graph that states current annualized return, a percentage labeled Y-axis and an X-axis labeled by month difficult to read
3) No u
## Speaker_0: ##
1) You still haven’t told us what you owned
2) The numbers and letters are too small and the chart is too big. Not really your fault but it just sucks.
3) Nobody ever made a penny panic selling. Grow some nuts and ride the waves.
## Speaker_1: ##
Sold calls and puts for a short strangle on the DAX. Decided I needed to diversify and bought calls on $AAPL and $NVDA. Everything expires today.
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u dum
## Speaker_1: ##
Could have been worse, at least I don't have your ugly mug
## Walls1337bot: ##
my son made this for me...
## Speaker_1: ##
No, I meant your hideous appearance. The mug your son made is beautiful.
## Walls1337bot: ##
/u/theycallme1 this guy called your dog ugly
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Bonds
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On a serious note, wouldn't it be a good time to pick up bonds as a long play? Illinois has one of the highest per capita tax revenues in the country. If they default on payments it's more because they don't have a budget and can't disperse the money rather than not having he funds, no?
ETA: just looked it up, they have a tax revenue of close to $40 billion a year. Funds payable backlog is ~$15 billion
## Walls1337bot: ##
Wrong! Pension program is underfunded by almost a trillion dollars. They haven't passed a budget in 2 years. They are going to be the first state to default. This is the catalyst to the next major downturn in the market. Timeframe 5-7 years.
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If they default the fed bails them out. People stop investing money in to Illinois. Why does bond default cause equity downturn? Honest question.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I think a federal bailout to the tune of about a trillion dollars (which is 4 times what Fannie and Freddie needed) will not be looked on kindly by other states and by people all over the US. It will set precedence going forward. Cali could be next, also vastly underfunded pension program, already astronomical taxes and just enacted single payer healthcare. If the Fed bails out Illinois then why not cali?
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What happens then if a state goes under? How does that work?
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They either default on all there liabilities and file bankruptcy. Or they get a bail out from the federal government. They are close to another credit downgrade that would bring them to junk bond status so I don't think it's a crazy leap to see them go under.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I would neck the fuck outta myself
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You say that but look at what happened to Smosh, at the time this was the better choice.
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Can you quickly explain to me what happened tosmosh ? I saw them for food battle back in middle school and forgot
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If I remember correctly they were offered money or stocks. So smosh took the stocks thinking it would be the better deal but the company never went public so those stocks are literally worth nothing.
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Should pay a percentage of the distributable income though, no? And be able to arrange a private sale of his stake in the company?
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u/rfloyd77
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You are good at this. Please deposit more funds.
## Speaker_1: ##
I have $300 in my bank account
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You’re an alright guy, ya know that?
## Speaker_1: ##
Appreciate it man. I just hope someone looks at this post and goes, “you know what, maybe I shouldn’t go all in.” Greed and arrogance take no prisoners.
## Walls1337bot: ##
What was your strategy if I might ask.
Looks like you had a really great idea somewhere in the middle there and completely fucked it up somehow. How?
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"no doubt Russia was meddling with the election"
Fuck
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Comey's gonna play both sides and ultimately say nothing
## Walls1337bot: ##
This he's angry about his legacy and losing his job so he will show revenge about that, but nothing to imply the president needs to be impeached just he's an egomaniac idiot. We will be fine fam.
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Wow, you're a lot less of a person than Comey
## Walls1337bot: ##
Don't deny that, dude's a true stud. I'd be out there bitching way harder then he is. Just explaining my view of what is happening that is all. I'm sure he shits on you as person too, we are lowly plebs on WSB.
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## Walls1337bot: ##
Looks like it’s back to Sprint for you
## Speaker_0: ##
More like cricket wireless
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More like no service
## Speaker_0: ##
More like a rotary phone
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More like a paper cup phone
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Fucking Morse code
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Fucking petroglyphs
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No communication costs if you’re dead
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Long $ROPE
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It's still worth 10% of the original price because there's still a chance it will end up in the money.
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But the probability is so low that statistically it’s still not worth it
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Oooo la la look at Mr. Statistics over here with his fancy math.
I just slap my dick on a keyboard until it types a ticker that I can short.
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I like how you go with short instead of long. As if letting your dick pick tickers wasn't enough, instead of buying them, you take a time sensitive position that statistically is more likely to lose money, while also exposing you to the potential of a margin call/bankruptcy. Mod material for sure.
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my body, my choice.
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"I don't have to verify because I have one of the great memories of all time"
Best line
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Please tell me he actually said this.
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Heard it live on my way to the airport.
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Jesus christ... If I wasn't actually living during his presidency, it'd be hilarious to look back on this. Gon' be some zesty memes in years to come.
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Trump is the new basis for a president. They tested stupid with GWB, they're just gonna go heavier and heavier in the years to come.
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**Shares are being diluted by 50% on Monday and nobody is talking about it**
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Where are you seeing this?
## Walls1337bot: ##
[DVAX Schedule 14A pg 3](http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/DVAX/4891079699x0x948960/4B03811D-6B96-4B4F-B5BD-E9D92C8948FD/400617ACL.PDF)
## Speaker_0: ##
Lets say that I'm retarded, what should I do with this information?
## Walls1337bot: ##
1. At 9:40am on Monday when people are spattering this sub with *DVAX TO THE MOON* buy 10 to 50 Aug 18 puts at whatever the highest strike 50¢ option is
2. Go on stocktwits and post the link I posted above with some emojis (������) and the red BEARISH tag
3. Sit at your desk eating a jar of paste and pray that your coworkers think it's yogurt
4. Wait for the shareholders to accept the dilution measure
5. Profit
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did u sell!?
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I cashed out $20k this morning, left 200 put options to ride (I am still holding out for the earnings call with free money now).
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Call is on 17th tho
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Holy shit I just now read the announcement. Lol. Just goes to show even the dumbest fucks can get lucky.
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Nice act for sec. You are not dumb
## Walls1337bot: ##
If you check out my last WSB thread, I'm the guy who YOLO'd about $17k into $DE (DEERE) earnings.
I can assure you, I am, in fact, dumb as fuck.
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Are you up or down overall?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Down about ~20k
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> turns $4k into $54k
> still down $20k
Have they modded you yet?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Mod me? Sacrifice me on a pyre if you want the DJI to go to 30k.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Reply with a 5k handling/legal fees.
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I should charge them that plus interest because technically they're borrowing my $2.9M
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You should get an attorney. This might be proof that the margin loan was valid and they owe you your gains.
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Then he should pay the 1000$ and get a lawyer
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consult the lawyer first
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Lawyers are for chumps, YOLO this lawsuit yourself
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I got $1k, I pay the lawyer and you split the 2.9 with me
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No insurance ? That is just the bill. Maybe he did, and trolling
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Just dont pay it. 99 percent of that bill is pure cost shifting from the people who receive services but cant pay, onto the people with insurance and the people who can pay.
Americans pay for healthcare three times over. Once from taxes withheld from your salary. A second time through the 800 dollar a month insurance premiums, and finally a third time over when you pay the beefy deductable after services are rendered.
On the plus side, The american health care system is so strong at the fringes of tough stuff like lung replacements, organ transplants and other futuristic scifi stuff that it is clear America will be the first country to manufacture biotech and nanotech based immortality... If you have an overflowing purse.
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The U.S. is a prime example of how horrible an industry can be made with govt regulation.
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>The U.S. is a prime example of how horrible an industry can be made with govt regulation.
Libertarians still think their imaginary ideology is somehow relevant lul
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\> said in a sub that glorifies wealth and the free market.
## Walls1337bot: ##
This sub is about degenerate gambling in the most regulated market on earth.
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these are the times that fundamentals do not matter
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micron literally printing money
next gen GPUs that the market is chimping out for, using an assload of micron chips
better sell micron.
I think the MMs on Micron are just a few weeks behind the news cycle. Still reacting to the Chyna fine, head in the dirt about the ER beat and the future prospects looking insane
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>MMs are behind
They know what they're doing.
And there is no fucking fine you ass. Even if there was, $MU would not pay it.
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Forgive the heresy of even asking but is there a past example of sanjay having some brass balls and saying no? I know tepper would be telling them to say fuck no but would sanjay?
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the fine laid out in the bs (it is china tho) umc lawsuit is only $40m
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That’s not a fine, that’s what UMC is suing for and the lawsuit is a sham.
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## Walls1337bot: ##
>you cant time the market
>banks have floors full of traders turning a profit all year
>cant explain that
## Speaker_0: ##
are you being serious?
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You do realize this sub is full of folks that make a living off trading and have since as far back as the 80s, right?
## Speaker_0: ##
clearly YOU can time the market. I concede.
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Yay! I win!
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How the fuck is Zuck Solo? FB is still 20% under last week. Zuck should be that droid that blows up when Uncle Owen tries to buy him. Or the chubby alien that falls into the Sarlacc pit no one cares about.
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He’s Lando, I figured since he betrayed us all it was fitting
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Objection dismissed then
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You raised the objection, you'd have to withdraw it not dismiss it.
I swear, sometimes guys...
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Objection dismissed
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Respect
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Respec
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Respe
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Resp
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This guy is going to be a millionaire with this play
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Retire at 19.
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Me too, thanks. Now how do I convince my poor family to lend me $46k to throw at the market?
## Speaker_1: ##
I earned 46k instead of asking my family
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Well sir my hat is off to you. I'm 18 with a little over 7.6k in savings. I thought I was doing well for myself haha. Compared to my family and friends I still am I guess. Did you earn it on the market or just lots of work? If you don't mind me asking.
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Going on vacation holding penny stocks lmao
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I have been on a cruise for 2 weeks. I can't wait to check on my hmny shares.
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Part of me just wants to buy $10 worth so I can bitch about how I was left holding the bag when MoviePass collapsed
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$10 is a lot. I have $0.1 worth from what used to be $2000+ I put in.
I honestly did it as a joke.
Yet it still surprised me beyond my wildest dreams. I had some RAD as joke back in the old days and it doesn’t even compare.
I might’ve even had a stop limit order for ending the joke but when it crashed it gapped down way below my limits. I simply removed it and continued to watch in amusement.
Edit: god damn I didn’t expect so many replies. Hate you fuckers but here’s a more serious follow up - when I say I buy something as a joke, I mean it like Aug17 MU 90 call (and HMNY behaved like a P&D last year, just didn’t time it well). It’s retarded but if you have it you can have wet dreams about it mooning with a smile in the sleep rather than live in the sadness that is reality. Thinking about DD, timing, news, and all that BS stress.
Besides 2k wasn’t much for me, tho it isn’t nothing either. I play with 100k+, started with about 70k. So I’m doing ok and my actual performance isn’t WSB worthy. I have to pull some of these to be accepted here.
Edit2: Apparently some thought I took comment replies seriously. No. I love WSB and it's exactly what I expected. I simply wanted to give a serious follow up. Aight back to monitoring FDs.
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> I HoNeStLy DiD iT aS a JoKe
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I'm about to buy in as a joke, am I retarded enough for this sub yet?
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No
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SEC investigation
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For real or is this just trolling
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For real. They do it regularly. Many pro traders here pumping shit stocks with their RH screenshots.
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Yeah those losers and their SPX
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SPX is the worst, Jordan Belfort used to pump it himself back in the day. Stay away from SPX!
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Why the fuck would anyone bother having more than maybe 50 people on Snapchat? Just hoping to get nudes from drunks?
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people using snap instead of texting, getting snaps instead of numbers
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Who the fuck needs to text more than 50 people???
## Speaker_1: ##
Did you go to college? Big moves like snapping “party at my crib pull up” and you send it to everyone on your snap list, simple as that..
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Lol I went but I didn't do gay shit like that.
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You’re buggin
## Walls1337bot: ##
I let alcohol ruin my first semester at Uni, switched *heavily* into the psychedelic and cannabis realm thereafter.
## Speaker_1: ##
Moderation is key guy, you can drink every week if you limit it to 2-3 Times a week, also gym everyday
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At this point I can't do more than 3-4 drinks in a night without it breaking my body the next day, regardless of food or hydration, lol. Already gymming whenever I can, which isn't often enough while still taking classes and working. On a side note, one downside to Michigan compared to Florida is the lack of abundant wild psilocybe cubensis and other fungal samples.
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Surprised faggot isn't higher on the list
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Pretty sure we need to start adding "faggot" to every post and comment. What do you faggots think?
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You fucking faggot
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Fuck you faggot
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Why is it pronounced faggit when it's spelled faggot?
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Because you're saying it while chugging dicks, faggot.
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PUTS ARE BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
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The market had no cause to be green the past few days. Somehow people had convinced themselves that the tariffs were just regular Trump bluster and weren't gonna happen. Believed Cohn and Paul Ryan could somehow change Trump's mind.
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a booming economy and a market under it's 50 dma is enough for green. Trump has said himself that it's a negotiation tactic to make better deals with NAFTA EU and China. Sure we'll drop a few percentage points over this but if you think a recession is coming RIP
## Speaker_1: ##
Bear markets and recessions aren't 1:1, you can have one without the other - in fact you can have a bull market in a depression (see the late 1800s - persistent unemployment but rising corporate earnings). Tariffs lead to earnings being revised downwards and can lead to a bear market.
The other point is that by their very nature, tariffs cause price increases cause inflation and necessitate the Fed hiking rates, this also makes stocks sell off.
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Inflation, by definition, results in recession. When you front-load GDP using massive, deficit funded tax cuts that are temporary for consumers while the economy is at full employment... you’ve committed a textbook macroeconomic sin (actually several all at once). The result is that real GDP pushes temporarily above “potential GDP” (inflationary conditions) but we eventually revert back to the mean (potential GDP) which requires “recessionary conditions” aka a tucking a recession.
This isn’t complex macroeconomic theory, it’s literally an example of how to create a recession that’s cited in just about ever macroeconomics 101 textbook printed in the last 30 years. People were saying this when Bush Jr. did his temporary tax cuts which ended up driving us into the 2008 crash. Yet here we fucking are again, thanks “fiscal conservatives!” All we need is a pointless war and it’ll literally be Groundhog Day all over again. The sheer stupidity is almost unbelievable... if this were a movie script 5 years ago it would have been rejected for being too absurd.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Charge your phone.
## Speaker_1: ##
I cant. i have to place my phone in a very specific position to charge my phone. Second iphone with this issue. I would buy a new iphone but i thought alibaba was such a steal these past 2 months that I’ve been buying it as much as possible and lost so much I dont want to go for the iphone xs yet
Edit:
The CEO and staff are also executing options at $0 after selling at all time highs. Am i screwed?
https://m.imgur.com/p5ivtei
## Walls1337bot: ##
2 iPhones with this issue and you want to buy another one?
## Speaker_1: ##
I love iphones dude they are the best i am an apple customer forever and wouldnt mind buying the more expensive version for the extra battery and new OLED screen vs the LCD screen on the XR
Their flashlight, siri weather, and waterproof apple watch and beats bluetooth pairing have me as a customer for life. Their app stores even have games like final fantasy 7, final fantasy 9, knights of the old republic etc. it’s nice being able to step out of my car in the rain with my watch series 2 and powerbeats 3 and not have to worry
## Walls1337bot: ##
This feels like sarcasm...
Doesn't the Samsung/Google/Android suite offer all of this?
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## Speaker_0: ##
i like the people who thought they were buying the dip on this one
## Speaker_1: ##
Down $2000 on VIX related products in a week.. $1k on XIV last Wednesday at $119. Bye money. On Friday I got $1k of Vix 14 puts faggy d's which are promptly down 80%. I owned Enron when it died too so this isn't my first termination event, but it seems weird still.
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A sk8er who is old enough to have invested and lost money on Enron?
Are you Tony Hawk?
## Speaker_1: ##
Tony Hawk Pro Skater on PS2 was my jam.
I skated 7 years tho, could 360 flip. Only landed like 5 of those tho. Was especially good at heel flips, could double heel flip too.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Did you land the other 5 on your head?
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## Speaker_0: ##
Do you guys think Trump passed ECO 101?
## Speaker_1: ##
He has an undergraduate economics degree form the top business school in the country.
## Walls1337bot: ##
He got really good grades. The best grades.
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So did Nathan Fielder... I'm starting to like his ideas more.
## Walls1337bot: ##
America is just a struggling small business that needs his help.
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## Speaker_0: ##
So... you saying I should yolo on GE?
## Speaker_1: ##
GE is for old people that rely on dividends. I don't think they actually create anything
## Speaker_2: ##
More like GE is for old people who rely on pension payments. I don't think they'll ever make enough to get out of that hole
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i'm betting on them getting out.
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I second that bet
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I’m shorting both of you.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I've seen a lot of shitposts on this sub in the past year, but this may honestly be the shittiest of all shit posts.
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I'm autistic, dont make fun of my artwork.
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If an artist produces artwork, does an autist produce autwork ��
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I knew this chick that got to adulthood unable to say her R's, she'd sub in a W. If you asked her about it she was in denial "oh my accent? I'm fwom peowia". The reason for this I discovered was that her parents were speech therapists, or as she said "speech thawapists". She's like mid thirties now and still does it.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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## Speaker_0: ##
Everything looked like it was getting better and that tweet killed it
## Speaker_1: ##
The reality setting in that he is fucking clueless is what killed it. Equity markets generally ignore politicians, but he became too much of a factor to ignore. Global slow down, fed policy, near-zero ROI on the tax cuts, and that fucktards inability to get out of his own way is what killed it.
The funniest thing about this place, though, is that the same people that still cheer this dude on are the same ones *still* getting taken to the woodshed and losing all $2000 they had in RH.
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What can the prez do to affect fed policy?
## Speaker_3: ##
Tweet
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Ideally shut the fuck up and not put Powell in a corner.
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## Speaker_0: ##
If OP is truly female, I have to wonder...how many female members lurking around here?
## Speaker_1: ##
With the amount of DMs I’ve gotten asking for pics of my tits in the last hour, I’d be surprised if any other WSBitches showed themselves... but we in here.
## Speaker_2: ##
Bunch of dudes
Young dudes
Risk taking
Finance
The internet
You may have just engaged the most likely to harass you for tits pics demo outside of prison.
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I’m the only woman on my entire floor, I knew what I was getting myself into. 10/10 still worth it.
## Speaker_2: ##
What % of your coworkers could be legally terminated for cause based on their behavior towards you?
## Speaker_1: ##
Easy 75% but I’m not trying to be outcasted plus one day I’ll be their boss and I’m playing the long term gains on that one
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And then you get to harrass them for dick pics. Smart.
## Speaker_3: ##
Or booty hole pics. Very versatile, you can harass both sexes for them. Buy buy buy!
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I’m gonna short this
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Kid anal is in now. Bag hold to the moon.
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## Speaker_0: ##
GPU mining in 2017 LUL
## Speaker_1: ##
i made >2k usd from a $150 gpu in 2017, but go ahead and lul all you want.
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How much more was your electric bill?
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>How much more was your parents electric bill?
FTFY
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Lol he made 2k yet little does he know it cost his parents an extra 3k but he still thinks mining is totally worth it
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## Speaker_0: ##
Her lipstick looks smeared. Mah man
## Speaker_1: ##
Nah it's just a new look that reality stars and YouTube makeup tutorials are doing. Called snogging
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That's fucking ridiculous. I had to look it up because I thought you were bullshitting. You weren't bullshitting.
The last few years I've finally hit an aging downturn where I'm starting to wonder if I'm in a coma and this shit is all fever dreams.
Or maybe I'm in shitty, off-brand version of "Roy" where the game is too bugged to be playable, or even realistic.
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I've been half-convinced that I killed myself in a mescaline based freakout freshman year of college, and all of this is the drug induced dream manifesting in my brain in the moments leading up to brain death.
But then I realize, even my dumbass brain couldn't conceive a reality this stupid.
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Same except klonopin overdose.
Edit: can’t spell drugs.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Were you born a woman? [serious]
## Speaker_1: ##
Tits and all [serious|
## Speaker_0: ##
I’m not sure which is harder to believe. The female part or someone that actually works in finance posted here.
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U/portlandmiser HI! we live silently among you (sometimes I think I’m the only girl here?). Also, It’s a great time to work in self managed sales, the stuff we see would put this sub to SHAME
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> ...the stuff we see would put this sub to SHAME
Please tell us more while I grab a notebook.
## Speaker_1: ##
$240k 100% in PBYI- only holding in the portfolio. Bought Nov 17’, do yourself a favor and check the 1yr chart on that one.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Robinhood takes me to a blank screen on that one. Must be bad.
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## Speaker_0: ##
i got margin called for the first time today. pretending like everything is okay
## Speaker_1: ##
Send them a picture of money and be like “I’ll hit you on da fiddenth my bro”
## Speaker_2: ##
Exactly. If you don't have the money, substitute it with confidence. That's all your broker needs to see to know that you can make it back.
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Too bad I'm all out of both fam
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*HUGS*
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## Walls1337bot: ##
No surprise. SoftBank probably forced all the current executives outs and putting their own in. Right now they have their COO in WeWork to "reorganize and reform their leadership."
## Speaker_0: ##
As they should. WeWork execs just got Kashoggi’ed.
## Walls1337bot: ##
they even managed to force WeWork CEO Neumann to vote in favor of ousting himself lmfao.
## Speaker_1: ##
He can fire the board any time and reappoint himself as CEO if he really wanted to. But then Softbank would probably go nuclear.
## Walls1337bot: ##
He can't. His votes 20:1 got reduced to 3:1 and SoftBank COO is the one managing/deciding who will run the company.
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## Speaker_0: ##
My question is how much money has JP Morgan made on puts? I doubt they lost 10%.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Banks don’t really trade with their own money. They execute trades for clients so this isn’t really how it works
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Um, wat?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Yup banks don’t really prop trade
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That's what they want you to think
## Walls1337bot: ##
The fact you say this means you know nothing about what actually happens. There are people at every bank in risk, compliance, and internal audit dedicated to Volcker compliance. Even if you think risk and compliance groups are corrupt (they’re not) Internal audit acts independently and doesn’t let this shit happen. There are also regulators that look at banks compliance with Volcker every year.
Additionally, even outside of Volcker, if banks were prop trading, numerous areas around the bank would be privy to it. Their CFO team, CCAR team, accounting team and the risk, compliance, and audit groups that act as lines of defense over these groups would see this. And the regulators looking over these groups would see this.
There is no possible way banks would have any sort of significant prop trading without being found out almost immediately.
People want to think the world is a giant conspiracy against them, but don’t understand how things work
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It was a joke -_-
## Walls1337bot: ##
Sorry if it was a joke. But someone else responded seriously to it in a way similar to your sarcasm so I honestly couldn’t tell
Specifically “ you are so naive lmao”.
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## Speaker_0: ##
OP should get a ban for this
## Speaker_1: ##
unfortunately he only deleted his post... he will be back with other posts to tempt the poor
but i will be waiting for him again for i am the defender of the poor
## Speaker_0: ##
I meant you
## Speaker_1: ##
FUK YOU BITCH!! why do you want poor people to get poorer??????
## Speaker_0: ##
shh bby is ok
## Speaker_1: ##
i know you mean well its okay i forgive you
## Speaker_0: ##
<3
## Speaker_2: ##
Seriously you two need to get a room, motel 6 is 50% off right now. Use the discount code: WSBang.
## Walls1337bot: ##
So you're saying put everything on BX...
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## Speaker_0: ##
Shit concept. I'm not spending $60 for 3 meals for 2 people a week. I can spend less and get more. This doesn't give you leftovers for lunch. It's exactly just enough food for two people for one meal. Some people like that you don't have to buy more and waste food, but it's like someone coming up to you and saying, "I can sell you a bag of potatoes for $3, or 2 potatoes for $7." It makes no sense to me.
It tries to hit this weird middle ground of people that don't care about their money and are too lazy to learn how to cook, but not lazy enough to not want to cook. If I'm lazy, I'm just going to order take out, not have someone give me cheap meals with a ton of creme fraiche.
I did get my first 3 meals for $20 and then immediately canceled my sub as soon as it showed up to my door though. The icepacks were nice and I saved them.
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I did this with three different meal delivery services. It's actually a great product. Terrible value if you're at all conscious about your money.
That's why I buy an entire freezer of tendies when they go on sale.
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I buy the big ass bag of Mrs T pierogies great value there.
## Speaker_1: ##
Shit that sounds fucking awesome I didn't know they came in large quantities.
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Gotta get in at the Club. I can talk to someone if you want?
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## Speaker_0: ##
My wife and I have been married for almost 10 years and every Christmas we talk about what we would love to get, knowing very well they are waaay out of our price range. Well this year I made about $14k on weed stocks and never told my wife to surprise her for Christmas this year and finally get her the one thing she has dreamed of getting since she was a kid...a cello!
Here’s where y’all come in. r/wallstreetbets has made learning the market an absolute blast and I’ve had the best laughs. I’ve never felt more alive while learning, screwing up (a lot), and winning. So really, from the bottom of my blackened hole I call a heart, thank you r/wallstreetbets. Y’all are the gayest group of autists I’ve ever seen and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
## Speaker_1: ##
Not sure how the fuck you made anything let alone 14K following this sub. You could’ve got a beginner Cello on amazon for 200 bucks, you didn’t really need to invest for it...your wife may have left you, but that would’ve been an equivalent win.
## Speaker_0: ##
Lol it’s not the direct info from this sub that helped me win, but more of the fact opened my mind to other possibilities. I was staying in the tech market (Apple, Amazon, Netflix) and not really going anywhere but too afraid to venture off. Y’all started to talk about $TLRY and other weed stocks and that led me to researching it which in turn provided me the confidence to go out and try some calls.
As for the cello, it’s was only $1300 and since we don’t have any debts (so nothing to pay off) but also can’t just typically splurge that kind of money, I knew I had to get the exact one that she always wanted.
## Speaker_1: ##
Excellent that leaves you with $12,700 left to YOLO. Get back to work my friend, you’re not done here.
## Speaker_0: ##
My bear hat is on and my SPY puts are ready for tomorrow’s open.
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Congrats on your next free 14k
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## Speaker_0: ##
They just play monthly option expiration games by running unconfirmed trade deal news. Does no one think the timing is suspicious ?
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The entire trade war is a false flag. I've read navarro's book and he is not really this stupid.
## Speaker_0: ##
Can you elaborate a bit on this, please?
## Speaker_1: ##
Peter Navarro is a good coherent economist IMO. The issues he describes in Death by China span FAR beyond trade or anything we would be able to fix with tariffs, IP rights, and currency constraints. My conspiracy is that Trump is a crisis actor planted in the U.S. govt by the global elite with the intention of global currency reset. China and the IMF want to use SDR as the global reserve currency instead of USD... the tangent conspiracy is that Trump is not interested in the global currency reset but is using the trade wars as ammunition to stabilize asset prices during QT.
I will literally believe anything other than whats actually going on
Edit:
Proof
https://www.reuters.com/article/china-sdr/update-1-china-eyes-sdr-as-global-currency-to-replace-dollar-idUSPEK18455820090323
## Walls1337bot: ##
Deng bruh, that was far out even for me, and I'll believe anything that fits my narrative.
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## Speaker_0: ##
This fucker has done more for the world than 99% of the rest of us and people throwing shade at him for donating to the republicans. Fml- short $DEMS
## Speaker_1: ##
I don't care much that he donated, but it kind of annoys me donated to Kevin McCarthy, Dennis Hastert and Dana Rohrabacher. These people are the idiots of the Republican Party. Elon has the opportunity to support candidates who can bring the GOP closer to the ideals of small government and farther away from the (generally) stupid social policies. Yes, I know he also donated a bunch of money to a general PAC. But it isn't a few Republicans who are the problem, the majority of the party doesn't stand for what they say they do.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Lol Dennis hastert is a child molester. Amazing.
## Speaker_1: ##
Well alleged, at least to my knowledge. But that doesn't make it much better.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Uhhh no.
> Dennis Hastert Sentenced to 15 Months, and Apologizes for Sex Abuse https://nyti.ms/1MYBAmv?smid=nytcore-ios-share
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## Speaker_0: ##
I don't even know what this sub is about but I want to see rainbow dicks so upvoted.
## Speaker_1: ##
If it's any consolation, I don't think most of us know what's going on. We just like spouting shitty finance memes because they make us feel smart talking about math-y shit while simultaneously having google open in the next tab trying to make sense out of what the 1% of actual traders in this sub are talking about. That's just the majority of course, not me though ha ^ha ^^ha ^^^ha ^^^^ha
## Speaker_2: ##
This is how I wound up with like 7 shares of NBG.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Why would you share a nacho bell grande?
## Speaker_3: ##
You know you are a fat piece of shit when you have nacho bell grande abbreviated.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Or worked at a taco bell
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## Speaker_0: ##
Shkreli is a cretin.
## Speaker_1: ##
Are you putting up 100k to find the killer of Seth Rich? I don't think so.
## Speaker_2: ##
Neither is Shkreli, it's a publicity stunt. No one is gonna find some random black dude in DC who shot a guy last summer. lol
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Seth Rich wasn't black.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Seth rich also didn't shoot a guy
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## Speaker_0: ##
LOL, best way to make money
step 1 make a STOCK
step 2 convince people to buy and hold it
step 3 sell wen price hits 1k
step 4 profit
gg ez
## Walls1337bot: ##
I don't think you understand. We do not sell the stock ever. If we sell then the price doesn't go up anymore, so we hold in perpetuity.
## Speaker_1: ##
Holding doesn’t make the price go up either, buyers do, and in order to buy there needs to be something for sale...
## Walls1337bot: ##
We can create infinitely more shares. It's just a digital number nowadays.
## Speaker_0: ##
price only rise if people buy it, the market chart reflects what people are doing buying / selling if 1000 people just buy, yes the price will rise but just holding it won't make the price rise.
## Walls1337bot: ##
If we hold and refuse to sell, potential buyers will be forced to increase their offer until they can purchase a share.
When their offer gets high enough we can change some 0's to 1's and create a new share for them to purchase.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Someone send him market data so he can do a 'This Week in Investing' through shitposts.
## Speaker_1: ##
Martin Shkreli 87850-053
FCI FORT DIX
FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION
P.O. BOX 2000
JOINT BASE MDL, NJ 08640
> Be the change you wish to see in the world.
## Speaker_2: ##
So... we’re breaking him out?
## Speaker_1: ##
That's for mail.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Would a do-it-yourself self-immolation kit be too informal?
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## Speaker_0: ##
Don't buy a corrupt company.
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but they make the most money fastest and without consequnce
## Speaker_0: ##
Without consequences... Lol let's not allow a damn company to spy on us and act like a globalist thought police. There is literally nothing good that can come from this. People should be free. People should be encouraged to think on their own. There should never be an authority out there powerful enough to block wrong think just because they don't like it.
## Speaker_2: ##
You realize we are all here for sick gainz not to stand on some moral fucking high ground.
## Speaker_0: ##
You realize we can still make sick gains without investing in sick companies. You can't lose your humanity.... because of money bro. That's a sin. It's called greed. You lose everything when you do that. You lose yourself when you do that.
## Speaker_3: ##
You're in the wrong sub kid. GTFO with that hippie shit you faggot.
## Walls1337bot: ##
That kid is definitely a Russian Commie, don't communicate with such filth.
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## Speaker_0: ##
....
why wouldn't you just invest it in the roth instead of taking it out.
## Speaker_1: ##
So I could actually take out the profits.
## Speaker_2: ##
Now put the $1400 back in the roth and you can gamble with the rest with no guilt!
## Speaker_1: ##
Don't try and make me do the right thing you asshole
## Speaker_3: ##
put $2600 back in and yolo with the same original $1400
## Walls1337bot: ##
This sounds more correct.
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## Speaker_0: ##
And he didn't take anti-malaria medication on vacation because?
## Speaker_1: ##
Anti malarials are pretty nasty themselves. My wife and I took them before our honeymoon. On later trips to Central America, she didn't take them because the experience was so bad. Just used tons of mosquito repellent.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I have to take anti malarial everyday. They suck but the worst side affect Ive had is so freaky dreams.
## Speaker_1: ##
It was the freaky dreams that got me too. In one a mad scientist created genetically engineered vampire ants that turned people they bit into zombies.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I had one where I was on a Chinese space station and base jumped down in an EVA Suit and parachuted into Kennedy Space then rode the space shuttle up to the ISS. It was a trip and a half and one of my favorite dreams so far.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Those people are struggling to build the financial stability needed to raise a child and you told them they're fucked when you could have told them to quadruple that $40k in a week by downloading Robinhood and buying JNUG. You deserved to get banned.
## Speaker_1: ##
I've made more in 2 days than he makes in a week daytrading while at work (not including actual working pay).
I've also lost their rental monthly payment in less than an hour.
## Speaker_2: ##
I just downloaded Robinhood a little bit ago and have no idea if it's worth using or really dumb or what? I don't have any kind of investment experience at all and was just curious to try it.
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You found your people. Time to buy JNUG.
## Walls1337bot: ##
^ actual good advice
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## Speaker_0: ##
You probably won't find the guy who posted it either...
## Speaker_1: ##
I was hoping that meant it was you. Just went through your post history and was disappointed
## Speaker_0: ##
Well, you embarked on a journey to find the cure of cancer...time's ticking.
## Speaker_2: ##
Nobody knows what that means.
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It's provocative
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## Speaker_0: ##
I mean how would it ever burst? I’m on a 30 year repayment plan but I still have to pay every month.
## Speaker_1: ##
As a student that went to USC w minimal loans thankgod I can assure you that unless the people are set financially, the ones taking out 30-40k per year loans for undergraduate education are fucked for life unless they find a dank job.
It astounds me how they allow kids to do it without telling them it is going to bone them fat.
I dont know how it will burst but I am near positive that it most definitely will at some point. Default rates are already heading towards 40% by 2022 lolz
## Speaker_2: ##
40k per year for undergrad ffs... just go to your instate school people and make the most of your degree. The entire undergrad program would cost a fraction
## Speaker_3: ##
the problem isn't public/private schools it's that a family making $80k is expected by the government to pay $25k out of pocket for college every year.
So if your school is $60k/year, congrats you just got $35k in grants and loans and now you have to make up the difference
But if your school is only $20k a year, get fucked bucko
## Speaker_4: ##
lol if you are making 80k and think you can support a family in america you are fucked (depending on where you live).
## Walls1337bot: ##
lol If your making 80k a year and cant support your family in america you are a fucking idiot
(Depending no where you live)
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## Speaker_0: ##
Youre 18? Good I hate my life
## Speaker_1: ##
I got used to this early on in life. My dads company paid for me to go to boarding school. There were kids there dropping 10k every weekend doing whatever they wanted.
## Speaker_0: ##
If I found 10k it would mean I could put a down payment on a house and build some equity instead of pissing it away on rent. Its insane that some kids get a life like that with free money.
## Speaker_2: ##
10k for a down payment ? Where do you live ? Sounds cheap AF.
## Walls1337bot: ##
If you're a first time buyer, FHA loans are available with 3.5% down. Do what I did, buy a multi unit and live in one unit and rent out the other unit(s). Between the rental income and equity growth, I've made a lot more on that property than on my ~60k trading account
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They said that about FB calls.
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FB and TWTR fucked me harder than my wife ever will.
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F
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A
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Stop teasing and deliver, Assange
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Nigga I aint got time to make this shit overnight. I have to meet with my legal team to vet all this shit. It's 30 fucking pages.
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>legal team
>friends during recess
let me know what chad thinks, he's always got some good points.
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I don't fuck with Chad anymore; he kissed Sally and that bitch was so close to trading me her snack pack for my banana if you know what I mean.
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SPEAK IN A LANGUAGE WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND
short banana futures?
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Long banana. VERY long banana.
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go long on child care, short condoms.
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My original plan was to hold them for a year. I did not expect the lunacy that ensued. I'll be buying them right back next week, I expect it to finally settle down tomorrow.
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Did you go all in with whatever you had on NFLX?
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So I'm kind of all in on NFLX. Last year I funded this account with $9,000. I bought facebook and netflix shares/options. I worked that up to $20k, then depoisted $8,000. Mid December I dumped all of my facebook options and my netflix 2019 options. Then I made this trade. So about half this portfolio was netflix options. I honestly don't know what the fuck to do next, In 1 calendar year I took $17,000 and turned it into $65,000. I have no idea what my next trade even should be.
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trade some of that cash for 2 very friendly girls that want to make out on your cock
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I'm sorry to hear that you have to pay for sex.
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who said anything about sex
and bruh you're married with 2 kids you aint ever having any sex foh
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Where the hell did the two kids come from then?
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your wife's boyfriend
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rekt
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## Speaker_0: ##
much harder for the feds to access snapchats than imessages. as long as people sell/buy drugs snapchat will survive lmao
Edit: maybe not technically "feds" but cops searched a friend's phone and didn't find shit cause it was all thru snapchat. probably should have said cops/local PD, not feds
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How? if the feds have access to the OS, they have access to the Apps as well.
And don’t tell me that the pics get deleted. They do, but not before they go through multiple scripts and AIs to determining the value of the user.
E: stop Messaging me with Stories how your friend evaded prosecution by tricking a local PD or cop. The comment explicitly says FEDs
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Most cops stupider than u think bud
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You know that the data gets collected by the nsa and presented in a way that the most stupid cop can access it? Cause that’s the way it rolls hun
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lol, no, it isn't. how's that paranoid life treating you?
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I mean call him paranoid but the Snowden leaks pretty much verify this
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Yea, I mean it’s fact and was admitted by the Obama admin multiple times around the world.
I honestly am shocked being called paranoid for this, lol
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3k to start 40k currently BOIIII fuck with me I’m god damn 19
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How'd you do it, youngin'?
## Walls1337bot: ##
HMNY, RIOT, then SANP. Not buying in after the pump but calling it before any real movement and winning big. Bought into HMNY at $3 out at $28. Then in RIOT (at the time it was BIOP) at $6 for that fat divvy but held cause I knew the name change would be big out at $24, currently holding SANP but [shits](https://imgur.com/a/dqwjV) looking good so far. Working on diversifying but most of my money is liquid until I find the next thing I really believe in. I feel like people can get into a mindset where they feel their money should be in the market so they buy into garbage they barely researched because “time in the market” and all that. My first trade was in August
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might wanna update your SANP chart. it's trading at 0.0012
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Lalalalala im not listening lalalalala
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WTF happened. His whole optionsellers.com website got taken down with only contact info left there. All of his YouTube videos got deleted. He is acting like he just betrayed the face of the world. God, how much money did this dude lose?
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About $50M-70M I would guess. Some of the 260 investors probably went all in with their retirement savings.
Edit: someone here posted min was 2M. Not sure if that was per person or as a whole. If it was per person the minimum loss would be 520M.
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Pretty sure he said 290 investors. At $2 mill that’s only ~$6,800/person. Definitely $2 mill per person.
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Ya, don't see how he could possibly be upset about losing 2 million total, like surely that's a normal weekly, maybe even daily, swing for a firm this size on a bad day/week?
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Where are you getting that they only lost 2 mil? They lost everything + more. Every investors account is now $0 AND they actually owe money because the fund lost even more then they had. If you put 2mil into this fund you now not only have lost it all, on top of that you owe money to cover the funds margin debt
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That is called writing options. If you have the balls for it, you can lose more money than you have.
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Sell spreads. All the joy of writing options, but you are able to define your downside risk
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I understand that the math is there and is actually pretty sound. But, writing options are margin even if the math checks out, freaks me out. I only have the balls of a mere mortal.
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You don't need balls at all.
Let me give you an example of how tiny of balls you need.
While amd is in the 12s I am writing $12/$11 put spreads.
I write (sell) the Jan 2018 $12 puts, and buy an equal amount of $11 Jan 2018 puts.
For each pair of those contracts, there is .40 ($40)net credit.
My maximum loss per contract pair is .60 ($60) ((difference in strikes of the spread ($1) minus premium collected (.40)). No matter how low AMD drops I can only lose a maximum of $60 per pair of contracts I sell. So each pair only requires $60 of buying power so with only a $600 account I could write 10 pairs of those contract for a profit of $400 at expirery.
At expirery if AMD is above $12 I will profit $40 per contract. If it below $11 I will lose $60 per contract. $11.60 is my breakeven where I don't profit or lose.
For each contract I write I am risking $60 to make $40 and there is 110 days to expirery. That is a 66% return for 3.5 months. I am incredibly confident these contracts will expire worthless. If they do that is an incredible return for 110 days.
When you use spreads there is 0 unknown. There is no need to have balls. When I sell the spread I know how much I can make and I know exactly how much I can lose.
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Hey man, thank you. This is actually really helpful.
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## Speaker_0: ##
until fucking 10 people win to split the pot, typical WSB idea to lose money.
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but if 10 people did it, then youre putting another 5.5B into the pot, right? still 100% ROI gg EZ
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no a hippe going to pay $2 at a gas station and is going to win it
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Hippies dont gamble. Its gonna be some crackhead who still finds a way to blow 1 billion dollars on drugs, at the casino, and on women. He will file for bankruptcy in 5 years and lose all of his mansions and yachts.
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Yo we're talking about a lottery winner not a tendie slinger
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Fuck, how?
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You must be new here.
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he means post positions
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You must be new here.
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He means post positions of how he fucks
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> he fucks
you must be new here
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He means post positions of how he gets fucked by fat hairy dudes
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You must be old here
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## Speaker_0: ##
The difference is about personal outlook. They see horrible things related to capitalism and cry and whine about it. We see the horrible things and ask how to join in.
Both are shitposting from Iphones made by child labor....
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Yeah. I actually liked their top meme today and tried to make a joke about it to fit in, but they banned me anyway.
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Just looked up what you are talking about, do they really think that wealthy people do not have to work to maintain their status?
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Sure. Say you have $10 million diversified across a healthy mix of stocks and bonds. With index funds you can be incredibly hands-off.
Even a 2% withdrawal rate from that portfolio provides a $200k/yr salary.
Some wealthy people choose to be active, but they don't have to be.
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Sounds like someone actively working to maintain their status to me. Sure not very hard but to argue your point, someone born into 10 million and given control of it could blow if they tried, or at least not maintain that status.
Do rich people have it easier, probanly. But it is not right to assume they all dont work for what they have.
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"Work" lol.
How little effort would a lifestyle require before you call it "not working".
2% withdrawal from an indexed portfolio is about as hard as cashing social security checks.
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lmao, this dudes saying that not spending over 200k a year is a full time job, we need him making monetary policy STAT
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http://imgur.com/a/Lrd7Cit
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The absolute lunatic. When's the video gunna be posted?
ps. bring me back a bag of chicken feet
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HQ was closed on the weekend. I decided to go to their customer care center and they told me they can't provide me with stock information.
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China hustle confirmed.
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Happy cake day faggot
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Let it be known to all: AMD cannot be bought. They lose their X86 license (from Intel) if they are acquired, and would thus lose the ability to develop CPUs.
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Alphabet has enough capital to buy any license, easy solution
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that's not how it'd work out. amd owns x64 and licenses it out to intel, and intel owns x86. they rely on each other and without each other neither of them could produce desktop cpus. if someone were to buy amd, they would also own the x64 license and intel wouldn't have any choice but to continue to license x86 for amd's x64.
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You seem to know more about this than I do, but wouldnt nvidia be at a bigger disadvantage since basically all high end computing is done on the x64 platform? If they lose it they would be more disadvantaged than amd losing the x86 platform, no?
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Not that simple. x64 is an extension of x86. x64 cannot function without x86 and on the flipside, everyone has (mostly) moved away from plain old x86 (32-bit) to the x64 extension (64-bit)
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Post your trades fag, also the ones when you give it back eventually. Nice gains tho.
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Yeah yeah... that's what everyone said when my account was @ $17k.
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I’ve been to 230k and back. Bank a little of it, you’ll be happy you did if you crash.
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Yeah I hear ya... I'm prepared to lose it all if it happens. Just a play account.
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I'll probably take out my initial ~$10k soon.
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Stop talking to yourself, faggot.
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\>Profits
LOLOL
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I already expect that haha ��
Also expecting _Good doubling down_
And _~~F A G~~ F A G G O T_
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You haven't lost until you've sold. Do some learning.
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True true. I am highly greedy/immature/impatient so I sell stocks quick and take the loss. I will do some learning with options over the next two years with paper trading so I can come back and get some big ass gains.
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Advice, just dont do options and read about stock picking. Literally you will lose everything in options because you actually have emotion when you trade.
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Are options basically leveraged ETF's for stocks?
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Hahah
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Encouragement laser_diarrhea, encouragement
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Not having to work to live would be nice.
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So support socialism, since labor is nearly worthless in the market now anyways we might as well have a basic income and housing for free, ect.
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he means not having to work to live while others do have to work to support his needs you troll fck
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If labor is so needed why is it near worthless then?
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Citation needed. A more accurate statement would be /u/shoepidgeon’s labor is near worthless, which is a different discussion.
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Just look at wages, stagnant to the point of actual decline for almost everyone. If you want to claim it's because productivity has plateaued that leads to the same conclusion. Labor is obsolete.
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Wages being stagnant is a different thing than labor being worthless. Try again.
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If wages aren't enough to support people the market doesn't value labor.
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The market doesn't value minimum wage labor that's why it's minimum wage, garbage collection is unskilled labor and makes around $85k per year and can retire with 75% of it pay at 55 (https://www.ocregister.com/2010/11/24/forget-100k-execs-what-about-85k-garbage-men/)
That's more than enough to support a family, it's just hard thankless work, however society decided it was worth a lot more than basic customer service. Don't blame the market because you don't want to do the job that the market finds valuable.
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Anecdotes are cool, the median salary for a garbage man is 34k. The market doesn't really value that. They probably have a militant union.
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Got a source for that? Nation wide annual salary for garbage truck drivers is $40k (https://money.cnn.com/2016/02/24/news/economy/trash-workers-high-pay/index.html). Not including any overtime which could easily bump them to $50k+. And can obviously be much higher in big cities
Also here is a link to FRED showing the growth of median wages for full time workers standardized in 1984 dollars
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q
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Where’s the food?
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Lol we care about the trade talk and you care about the food?
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You’re angry when you’re hungry. Also where can I watch?
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Well that sirloin better be the best out there to satisfy their hunger and trade deal.
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Let’s just hope they don’t eat trump lol
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just hard love, fam.
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You actually paid for an ad to shitpost on wsb? Ahahahhahahahahahahhaja
You should get an ad for chew next time it dips
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I already do my best to promote Copenhagen.
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I'm a pussy who dips skoal. Dipped tha grizz for 6 years tho
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Sorry.
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Would dip cope but it gives me terrible heartburn
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You're not supposed to swallow it ya dingus
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995 shares of addidas.
920 shares of Disney
As well as apple Netflix and Amazon.
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In certificates, what a pleb
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Could you explain for a newbie?
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Explain what?
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Young trader doesn't know stocks came in certificates pre digital revolution.
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Mother of god.
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I thought they just yelled it on the trade floor!
/S
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I thought the floor was nothing but one long receipt paper coming from that ticker printer.
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What happened
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These fuck heads think xiping ping is the new Lord and savior because futures are hella green for one fucking day
Like it's over. We'll never see a red day again.
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No, more like his speech seemed very promising for future trade negotiations, and such things as lowering tariffs into China, having stricter IP laws, etc
## Speaker_0: ##
So wall street just now figured out there are competent world leaders out there? Ah yes, Trump has set such a great example I guess they forgot what normal functioning member of society sounds like.
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Unfair trade deals with China have been screwing us since WW2. It’s more that we’re starting to see first signs of China admitting the imbalance in their favor, and an openness to be flexible.
Xi knows that for China to succeed, America needs to succeed.
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## Speaker_0: ##
MarketWatch is really anti-trump (trump derangement syndrome seems to be a common ailment for their current writing staff). Don't know if the site has always been that way but it is unusually Marxist/subversive for a site that's supposed to support open market ideology.
"Hello fellow capitalists."
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If you support open market ideology I would think being anti-trump would be a given. The man is not exactly pro-free and open markets.
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My favorite thing to do is quiz my socialist friends about how they must love Trumps policies since he supports tariffs and protectionism to "bring back american jobs".
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Serious question. Do you actually have socialist friends or do you just have friends that more keen to something like Rooseveltian progressivism?
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They're actually socialist. For example my one friend hates Elon Musk for being successful and not spending his money on public works projects.
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That sounds misguided, not really socialist. If they were talking about having the government seize Tesla factories and operating them under the public sector, that would be socialist. If hating someone for how they choose to handle their money was enough to be a socialist than most of this subreddit would qualify based on how we feel about the Ally savings disciples
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Socialist and misguided are synonyms
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Only if you don't care about definitions and don't want to have a reasonable conversation on the topic, which I assume from your comment describes yourself .
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Everything I've read about WeWork just makes it seem like an endless money pit doomed to fail. SoftBank know something we don't or is it just blind greed and optimism?
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Adam rolls the best blunts and gives the best head.
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Didn’t Adam peace out like 2 days ago
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I guess he sold all his crap properties and fairy dust. Seriously, that kid acts like a graduate of Trump University.
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That kid has more business savvy than Trump ever will, I mean, he got an international mega bank to dump 12.5Bn into a horrendous money pit and made out like a bandit.
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He's not savvy. SoftBank are just the biggest suckers in the world throwing billions at a real estate Ponzi ran by Patrick Bateman 1.6
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I didn't say he was smart, just smarter than Trump
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## Speaker_0: ##
Shit thats a lot of words...i better go buy some of this
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Trying to throw off the SEC with my aggressive word dump.
Just kidding, SEC!
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Yes thanks OP. Shorting $HAS
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Make sure you post your short. I need to follow that shit.
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It’s a joke brah. I don’t ven know what HAS is and I don’t think you said the name of the company in your post
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## Speaker_0: ##
Why do I always lose money and why are you fucking me with your market?
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This is a deceptively good question. You always lose money because you have no idea of the fair value of the price of the option you're trading.
Market makers have a fair value, and they make their market around it. So if we think an option is worth $10 we'll show a $9 bid and an $11 offer. This means that every time we do a trade we make money, and the corollary of that means that every time you trade against a market maker's quote without knowing the fair value of the option then there's almost 100% chance you're losing money right out of the gates.
We're fucking nobody with our markets. If you want to show a tighter bid/ask than us feel free to do so. We quantify the risks of every trade and ask for sufficient edge to trade it, and that's what determines the width of the market.
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So i'll bid $9.01 then and sell at $10.99 to steal your tendies hehehe
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Option quote prices can only tick in increments, so it's more like $9.10 @ $10.90 but yeah, you get it how it works!
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Yea I'm just joking bro, I'm not fast enough to do all that without getting rekt haha
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## Speaker_0: ##
Insider trading creates a more efficient market, so not quite on the level of the onion. Depends on priorities
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Lmao just keep regurgitating whatever he says.
Insider trading creates an imbalance where 1% reaps the rewards of knowing while 99% get screwed.
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It’s not just him, plenty of economists think this. It’s absolutely a fact that insider trading causes stability in the markets and makes markets more efficient. You may not think it’s fair “muh 99%” but that’s reality for ya.
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The stability is created by the news of an event. A small group acting on this prior to the rest of the shareholders knowing doesn’t affect the stability of any asset. Check the sources on who you think is an economist. There’s a reason it sends people to prison in regulated markets.
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Idk is Milton Friedman an economist? Not sure. The stability is caused by insiders bidding the price up or down because they trade on secret information which leads the price to its equilibrium. When this news is leaked it doesn’t send shockwaves through the market like it would if there was no insider trading because the price is actually reflective of the true value.
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Considering the fact that their paltry individuals shares ain’t worth shit against the market cap, they aren’t market setting crap, they are only benefitting off having confidential information
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What are you talking about? That simply isn’t true. Most insiders are giant whales. Also you don’t compare it to market cap lol, you would compare it to volume.
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And what dumb nigga is going unload a dickload of shares at one time, 2 months before the info drops because he’s got someone to compete with? SMH...
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Head $BAC up to the moon
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You don't think the ride on the BAC express ship has sailed?
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She'll see 30 someday
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Oh I agree, with Moynihan's promise to return over 100% of earnings to shareholders in an effort to return the dividend back to pre recession levels plus reduce the number of outstanding shares by half, BAC could be high 30s low 40s within the next 2 years.
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So all in bac+b
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## Speaker_0: ##
I’m not really an investor besides my 1 AMD stock, can someone explain like I’m retarded?
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He thought he bought options expiring in Oct 2019 for a really good price. Turns out 10/19 means October 19, 2018.
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Can you explain the 138 part, if the price was 60 with a break even at 61
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All options contracts are for 100 shares. So if the price of a contract is $1.38 per share it's actual price is $138.
An option Call lets you buy 100 shares at the strike price ($60 in this case). So if he buys 100 shares at $60, he would need to sell them at $61.38 per share in order to break even.
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I might be super dumb but why does he need to sell them at $61.38 to break even? Fees? (For the record I never bought anything, I don't even know how to do so eventhough I'd like to get started).
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He paid a fee of $138 for the option to buy 100 shares, which equates to $1.38 per share. So the break even price is $60 + $1.38 per share.
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Oh right. I'm dumb, thanks for the explanation!
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You're fine, it was a legit question and nobody was born knowing everything. You're welcome buddy.
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Happy cake day motherfucker
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## Speaker_0: ##
SPOT going to a direct listing might be neat, but it also might get off to reaaalllly funky start.
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There a play to make on this start? A straddle came to mind but ny guess is premiums will be through the roof with all the expected volatility
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For me it comes down to how it's going to open. Value will be all over the place the morning of, but they seem to expect it to settle quite high (IMO).
Right now Spotify is claiming they're a $23B company (one that only loses money--and a lot of it--thus far, not that that's been detrimental to other tech stocks) and that they've traded shares privately at something like $120/shr (don't have the info on screen anymore, but around there). If they're actually targeting that from the moment they open, I'm not touching it except to buy puts once the hysteria dies off.
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It was on CNBC
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If it was on mad money I'll just play opposite of whatever the claim is.
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120 a share and probably half of investing/RH sub will jump on it. I'll guess a sharp uptick then a steady decline into 90s by end of year into MU range at 49.89 by 2019. L
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If this ipo's at 120 and you buy 80 dollar 2020 puts once the option market's open for it you'll be a billionaire when it's all over if you're right.
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My RH account won't have options until 2021.
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At first I misread you had a net loss of $850.
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DUDE HOLY FUCKING SHIT MAN
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Yes, I agree, holy fucking shit. Man
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Do you at least have a good job or *something* to keep you going?
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Yah I do. Make 6fig in my day job
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I BET YOU LEARNED SOMETHING
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Bought Shopify Puts. Then sold out next day got 695 Uber Calls for 9/27 @ $0.65 a piece, cashed out at $1.65. Next day got 87 Shopify Calls for $13.30 sold out at $17.10. Now back on 150 Shopify shorts. At 170k currently. And yes it's all my brothers money I won't be taking a single cent.
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So what play is next, I'm sure everyone here is wondering
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Who knows? Maybe tesla puts. Pretty much do the opposite of what everybody else is doing
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You buy ITM, ATM, OTM? How far out usually?What's your secret mr chosen one
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Nice flair ��
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definetly did get lucky I made this much gain in such a short time but I woudn't consider them yolo plays at all.
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You forgot
>1999 yahoo purchases broadcast.com for $5.7b and turn Mark Cuban into a smug know it all billionaire.
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> into a smug know it all billionaire.
Dude's net worth has decreased since '99 even though the market has doubled, and he's still smug as fuck
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Owning any professional sports team takes a massive toll on anyone net worth
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That's not true at all. He bought the team for $285mm and it's currently worth $1.4b, not to mention the fact that the team turns a profit (~40mm a year). If anything, owning a sports team is what's keeping his net worth afloat.
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Too bad he spits out $21mm a year on luxury tax, not to mention opportunity cost tells me that Mark Cuban could be making significantly more money besides sitting at Mavs games 3 nights a week.
Not to mention the millions hes paid in fines, and the fact that the Mavericks averaged almost -$10mm lost per year for the first decade and a half he owned the team, accounting for inflation tells me his investment wasn't as good as you'd think
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Yeah you’re probably right, but I dont think that Cuban owns the Mavs just for the investment. The dude loves what he does right now. Im sure that if he wanted to make more money he could, but he got his “fuck you money” back in ‘99 and now hes just enjoying life. I 100% dont blame him
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The Bloomberg report about an interim deal cited **five** people familiar with the matter, I think the WH is still considering it they are just pissed it got out so soon so they're denying.
Edit: Called it
https://twitter.com/LiveSquawk/status/1172267083226386432?s=20
President Trump: Guesses Would Consider Interim Trade Deal With China
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Trump probably wants to save the news for when the market needs a boost. One of these days it will tank hard on one of his good news tweets.
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Yeah, people are going to start seeing positive Trump tweets and will assume something bad is happening behind the scenes.
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That ship sailed a looong time ago.
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Then why is the market.still mooning on his bs?
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because the president generally has a low amount of influence over the growth of the s&p overtime?
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You’re not seeing growth, you’re seeing volatility. If we are at a constant average and volatility is introduced, then you can reach new highs, it’ll just be coupled with stronger lows. The average remains the same, volatility just increased (which the president can DEFINITELY effect as we’ve seen)
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Hot hand fallacy. Correlation is zero. Prove me wrong.
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>Prove me wrong
That's what I'm asking *you* to do you jackass. Acting like me asking for data is me making a claim one way or the other.
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It wasn't directed at you, it was directed at everybody.
Do your own research you little bitch.
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>Prove me wrong
Two seconds later...
>Do your own research you little bitch.
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Those are the same thing.
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## Speaker_0: ##
How much money do you usually throw away at bad picks? Why would apple go up 12% in 2 weeks?
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I tossed $40k at Rite Aid during the roller coaster. Ended up turning that around into a 20% profit (Among other yolo's). As for reasoning, I have a gut feeling aapl is going to surprise us on the 12th with a bunch of magic. It won't be surprising to me if we see aapl hit $191 that week.
MU, we have earnings at the end of the month and I am anticipating the run up to continue. All signs here are looking green.
If this ends badly, well it can be a life lesson for someone. Hedging my bet with $ROPE.
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Lmao go back and look at every past September conference date and the reaction of $AAPL. The market doesn't give a shit about magical releases; it either goes flat or drops. And on top of that, you're buying into all time highs with very little change over the past couple quarters
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This time is different. (Tm)
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That's what I said to your mom and yet she ended up with a second autist son.
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So short my mom?
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We will find out on Monday.
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Really, or are you just fucking with us? I know the deadline is July 7th, but is there a chance it'll happen Monday?
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Monday man, believe me.
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I want to believe. How do you feel about the merger?
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0% chance.
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Of it being blocked? Excellent!
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Wish I'd had the balls to quadruple down on 10/19 60s when it was at $46, bought 100 shares instead.
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I truthfully don’t have the guts for 10/19 but free seeing this much of a restoration I’m leaning towards dropping 25k in October and 25k on Jan calls. Maybe November call but I doubt November will see a ton of news or action so probably cheaper just to do October and bail after ER
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>just to do October and bail after ER
That's the plan for mine. I'll let my Jan 2019s run though.
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Amen to letting Jan 2019 run. Hoping we hit mid 70s by EOY for a nice 7-8 bagger
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What makes you think this ER and the subsequent reaction will be any different than the last 3?
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There has to be at least one dipshit that invested a loan and luckily became a multimillionaire. He probably thinks he’s the smartest man alive.
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Survivorship bias is a hell of a drug.
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If he only invested once, there is 50% chance he made money.
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It doesn't work that way, that's like saying "if you bet everything at the casino in one go, there's a 50% chance of winning"
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Roulette, bet it on black.
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Oh yeah? Are they going to make turbines? GE is amazon proof.
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GE makes turbines for planes. Planes are used for shipping. Amazon does shipping. Amazon buys GE.
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>Amazon buys GE
Terrible decision lol
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So was buying the liberal bastion of Whole Foods but Amazon did that. Who buys a company in one of the lowest margin industries in the world?
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Whole Foods isn’t a liberal bastion. Amazon bought them because they had an established physical presence - easier to grow out Prime Now. And it’s cute that you think retail matters at all to Amazon’s bottom line. AWS is a goddamn digital gold mine
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Lol. Whole Foods is all about appealing to liberal hippies with their gluten allergies and vegan diets.
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It's absurdly expensive. Amazon slashed prices when they came in and it's still unbearable. I like going inside though every one in a while. They have some interesting stuff there. It really is a place for upper/upper middle class women to buy "compassionate mangos and conflict free coffee beans" though. They still spend money on stupid shit and the company is doing well so whatever. They can be anti-capitalist hippies all they want for all I care.
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Car washes, lawn work, etc.
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Those all sound gay.
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Make you appreciate the value of a dollar though.... when money comes easy it goes just as fast
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Truuu. I washed dishes the summer I was 15.
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That sounds gay
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