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know I would say to you there are peuta Klee and clinically be mindful of that aspect of yourself that
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there are times when you may not have the emotional bandwidth to take something on but a human relationship is
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a reciprocal space and that there are times that people are going to expect you to maybe kind of be bigger than that
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emotional space you can be it would be exhausting for you on a daily basis I don't think you should be a therapist you know I don't think like that would
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play upon your strengths to be honest but I do think that you know it could somebody who is if you love someone and
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they're going through a hard time they may need more of that space from you and like I'd say so much of how narcissism
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is addressed if you're addressing it clinically is mindfulness and every one of us can bring mindfulness into our
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lives you're not even a narcissistic I mean we look at narcissism as always hold on you you said I'm not even nurses
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yeah I don't really know I mean the closest you got was like that little bit that emotional you know kind of clip
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misses you I should have been more I feel like I need to be a little narcissistic to be like you you if I was
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gonna sit here and dissect you sure could I say there was one or two things that you said there was like mmm
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superficial like how often do you you know do you are you like are you big into stuff do you care about your whole
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like what you wear and what you drive and all of that I don't have a car and I
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don't think I've bought a piece of clothing it what so I mean we so but if a person had a phenomenally
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great car it doesn't mean they're not empathic we look at it holistically you're you're telling me that your
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measure of success is to get meaning and purpose from your work that's it actually sort of the opposite of
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narcissism and in fact when we work with narcissistic clients one of the things we try to do is meaning and purpose
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focused work thinking that if we can bubble that up to the surface it might help sort of address some of that
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emptiness and that insecurity I hear that you're able to be you know strong in the face of meaningful criticism and
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that yeah when the criticism comes from a place where you're like seriously you have no place saying this it was a very
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normal kind of a reaction back to that you know if your your ratios more were like 20 80 like 80% of the time I can't
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tolerate criticism that would give me pause yeah you know you're not talking about a superficial world you're talking
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about when you do fall into a loving relationship that you want it to be
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where you're both are healthy and growing together not that I need a hot partner I know if I were watching this I
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would go well yeah he just talked to the narcissist expert for five hours and they did a therapy session so he's just
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going to deliver the answers to make him right see Narcisa I can tell everybody I
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was very honest I'm all that's one of my weak and weaknesses and strengths but I
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mean is there anything that you can add to did this feel like a valid session to
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you or did you feel like I was putting on here's the thing when we're looking at something like narcissism or narcissistic personality
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it's a slow burn in in reality it could have taken as weeks or even months of sessions for these patterns to come
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clear I've worked with clients it took me six to nine months for me to really see like oh now I know exactly what I'm
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dealing with you can get some of the superficial narcissism at a dinner party but the real depths work to get this
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that could take a long time I know you I had that advantage College I'm working with you for months so you know I know
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enough about you but what I could be lying you know you could be lying and anyone could be lying in therapy and you
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know you could all listen you're in an industry that celebrates superficial validation seeking stuff and you do like
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being on this side of the camera maybe any of us that you want to be on this side of the camera needs to take a good hard look inside and say why is that
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why is it more important for us to be on this side than that psychos or those are absolutely equal roles yeah Timmy so
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there is some self-examination that means to happen there you know I I would
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over the course of longer-term therapy we look at how do you intersect in your relationships
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maybe this pattern of low emotionality is actually something we do need to be more concerned about and as I got to
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know more about you and saw how it surfed it surfaced with family with friends with partners with coworkers
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I might start to see a pattern there that's not just low emotionality maybe it would evidence as lack of empathy so
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this is something that we're good we would have to continue to kind of pull up but you certainly didn't come in here
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kind of arrogant and brash you're willing to put yourself out there in this kind of a platform so right out the
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gate there's a transparency you use that word a lot I don't know that many narcissist use the word transparency
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unless it's a buzzword but you do raise an important point so it can be tricky last thing because I know we're going a
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little long can you give me maybe two because of my inability to be as
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emotionally available as people want me to be has hurt me yeah better yes and
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it's something that if I want to have a successful relationship in the future I'm gonna need yeah so can you give me
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like two things that I can do to practice that now while I'm not in a relationship
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listen in case and listen to people in situations where it's not as high-stakes you know in a relationship it's higher
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stakes but like you know don't be that person is like a stupid person on an airplane is telling me their story you
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know I'm so like oh yeah as soon as I can airplane I'm like uh yeah I gotta go alone practice it a little bit you know
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do it with with smaller with friends you actually like also listen to your friends starts telling you their
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emotional stuff say uh oh man you know watch those reactions because for some people for whom sharing emotional stuff
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may not be easy and they see you going like this that might be enough to make them more reluctant to share in that
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space you've got to watch your nonverbals you've got a and you have to practice it I mean it's in order to love
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people we sometimes have to do things that don't always feel comfortable for us because that's love you know is you
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know to really be there for people and hear them and give richness and validation to their
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stories by hearing them with an open heart oh god I can do that though I
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literally yeah can practice this with people because right now you're so right I avoid it at all cost because I'm like
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others as important I'm not practicing acting so how do I be able to do it when
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it matters it's not that it doesn't matter now but whenever you like it could be like a friend Connie yammering on about something like that and I could
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just I could put my phone away and just go yeah and don't be yeah you don't need
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to be like you know all like you know trippy and all that like really just you know lie back in the sofa and hear it
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put that phone away be present with it don't let other people's emotions be a place of fear for us you know because
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they're not asking you to take them it's not like they're trying to unload cargo on you they're just wanting to they want the simple act of another human being
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listening to them because that's really where a relationship happens they'll send more days than not the only thing a partner and two partners might talk
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about is who's taking the car this morning and did you remember to get the milk you know that not every day is a big-ticket day in a relationship one of
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those big ticket days happen those are the bridges that carry the relationship to the next level and that's where
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narcissistic people can't go so while I'm not seeing those patterns for you I do think practice it because being there
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for another person emotionally is a practice skill and in our technologically soaked womb people are
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not good at being there for other people they're so distracted they're like fondling their phones put it away
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look at that person be present with them stop doing your grocery list in your mind and be in the room yes oh my gosh
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this was so good for me loved ones and
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hopefully you know a partner or even when you're dating this create a healthier space and if you notice this
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broad pattern and someone else who can't be with your emotional space at all and that's also a red flag for you but like
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listen you know I'm not you don't seem like mr. narcissism you're you know given that you're in this industry you
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live in LA you know you're young you're you know all the things that kind of are the flame under that yeah under that pot
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kind of thing doesn't seem to be happening of a holistic healthy sense of yourself remember you have a solid sense of yourself the
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rest emanates from that and so I believe that I've been up that hard a little bit more and my future spouse thanks you oh
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he'll be a much better listener by then thank you guys for watching this simulated therapy session with myself