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670,080,851	The House has amended the Senate amendments with amendments. and the Senate up to this point has not acted upon the action of the House.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	31	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	300	302	08181921.txt	136	25
670,080,852	I understand that. but the Chair stated a moment ago that when the Senate amended the House bill it had requested a conference. That is so. but the RECORD shows that the Senate did not ihsist upon its amendments. It requested a conference without insisting upon its amendments.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	32	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	303	308	08181921.txt	277	48
670,080,853	No. that was not the motion at least that was made. I do not know what the RECORD shows.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	33	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	309	310	08181921.txt	88	19
670,080,854	I do.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	34	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	311	311	08181921.txt	5	2
670,080,855	I had the motion that I wished to make in mind before making it. and the motion was that the Senate insist on its amendments. request a conference. and that the Chair appoint the conferees on the part of the Senate.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	35	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	312	315	08181921.txt	215	41
670,080,856	I have looked at the RECORD. The Senator may have made a motion to insist. but the RECORD does not show it. and we go by the RECORD.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	36	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	316	318	08181921.txt	132	28
670,080,857	I am very confident that those are the exact words used in making the motion. I did not examine the RECORD afterwards to see whether or not it appeared in that form.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	37	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	319	322	08181921.txt	165	32
670,080,858	I did. and if the RECORD is not corrected the RECORD is the record and the official record.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	38	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	323	324	08181921.txt	91	18
670,080,859	Mr. President-	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	39	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	325	325	08181921.txt	14	2
670,080,860	The Chair will state that he is informed that the RECORD Shows that there was merely a request for a conference without insisting upon the Senate amendments.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	40	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	326	329	08181921.txt	157	27
670,080,861	That is what I say.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	41	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	330	330	08181921.txt	19	5
670,080,862	That may be. I am not disputing that fact. but I know the language.I used.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	42	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	331	332	08181921.txt	74	15
670,080,863	Under that record the House acted within its rights and properly in amending the Senate amendment. and therefore it seems to- the Chair that the motion of the Senator from South Dakota is clearly in order.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	43	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	333	336	08181921.txt	205	36
670,080,864	I do not doubt that it is in order. I did not intend to make any point of order against it. I was wondering why that was made. rather than a motion to insist on the Senate amendments.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	44	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	337	340	08181921.txt	183	38
670,080,865	I know that that was the motion. although the REcoRDn did not so get it. I had made the motion before.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	45	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	341	342	08181921.txt	102	21
670,080,866	It is the customary motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	46	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	343	343	08181921.txt	27	5
670,080,867	Mr. President-	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	47	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	345	345	08181921.txt	14	2
670,080,868	Does the Senator from South Dakota yield to the Senator from Massachusetts?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	48	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	346	347	08181921.txt	75	12
670,080,869	I yield to the Senator. understand. There is only one official record of this body. and that is the Journal. Now. does the Journal show that motion in the same way? I presume it does.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	49	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	348	352	08181921.txt	183	35
670,080,870	The Chair is informed that the Journal does not show that a motion was made to insist.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	50	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	353	354	08181921.txt	86	17
670,080,871	That. of course. is the only official record.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	51	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	355	355	08181921.txt	45	8
670,080,872	Mr. President. a parliamentary inquiry. Can the two be included in the one motionthat the Senate disagree to the House amendments and insist upon the amendments of the Senate?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	52	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	356	373	08181921.txt	175	29
670,080,873	The Chair is willing to be corrected. but the Chairs first impression would be that the motion would be in order. but is a divisible motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	53	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	374	376	08181921.txt	140	26
670,080,874	I make that motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	54	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	377	377	08181921.txt	19	4
670,080,875	The Chair will state that. of course. if the motion to insist should be carried it would have to go back to the House. It would not go to conference.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	55	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	378	380	08181921.txt	149	30
670,080,876	Let me ask the Senator a question. The Senator states that he makes the motion so that the record may be straight. May I ask him what progress the conference committee has made?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	56	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	381	384	08181921.txt	177	33
670,080,877	The conference committee are in disagreement yet upon just one amendment. and I think there is a probability that they will reach an agreement today.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	57	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	385	387	08181921.txt	149	25
670,080,878	The Chair will state. if he may. his understanding of the parliamentary situation. namely. that if the motion to disagree shall prevail. without any further motion the conferees will have Immediate jurisdiction of the papers. and can proceed to conference. If the motion to insist shall be made and prevail the matter will have to go back to the House before the conferees can assume jurisdiction.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	58	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	388	394	08181921.txt	397	66
670,080,879	I hope some confidence will be put in the conferees on the part of the Senate. and that the motion will be simply that there be a disagreement to the amendments made by the House.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	59	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	395	398	08181921.txt	179	35
670,080,880	Mr. President. a parliamentary inquiry.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	60	Mr. BROUSSARD	Unknown	BROUSSARD	Unknown	M	399	399	08181921.txt	39	5
670,080,881	The Senator will state it.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	61	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	400	400	08181921.txt	26	5
670,080,882	What would be the parliamentary situnation if the Senate did not act favorably on this motion? Would that have the effect of agreeing to the.House amendments?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	62	Mr. BROUSSARD	Unknown	BROUSSARD	Unknown	M	401	403	08181921.txt	158	26
670,080,883	The Chair would prefer. because it will require some time. to wait until that matter comes up and he has an opportunity to examine the question.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	63	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	404	406	08181921.txt	144	26
670,080,884	I am sure that a great many Senators would be guided by a knowledge of what would be the rule with the matter In such a condition.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	64	Mr. BROUSSARD	Unknown	BROUSSARD	Unknown	M	407	409	08181921.txt	130	27
670,080,885	The Chair is not prepared to express an opinion at this time upon that question.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	65	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	410	411	08181921.txt	80	15
670,080,886	Mr. President. may I be allowed a word on that subject? .	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	66	Mr. WARREN	Unknown	WARREN	Unknown	M	412	413	08181921.txt	57	12
670,080,887	The Senator from Wyoming.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	67	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	414	414	08181921.txt	25	4
670,080,888	When the pending motion carries. that puts it in the hands of the conferees. Then a motion of the Senate to Instruct those conferees does instruct. if It carries.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	68	Mr. WARREN	Unknown	WARREN	Unknown	M	415	417	08181921.txt	162	29
670,080,889	But it does not instruct them in any way unless the Senate. by a majority vote. may so instruct them.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	69	Mr. WARREN	Unknown	WARREN	Unknown	M	419	420	08181921.txt	101	20
670,080,890	Mr. President. is the bill in conference now? I understand that the conferees have agreed upon all except one matter. and yet apparently. from the motion of the Senator from South Dakota. the bill has not yet been sent to conference.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	70	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	421	425	08181921.txt	233	41
670,080,891	I will say to the Senator that the bill is in conference. but in order that the record may be straight with reference to the authority and jurisdiction of the conferees now upon these particular amendments this motion is made. We have been in conference in regard to other amendments.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	71	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	426	431	08181921.txt	284	50
670,080,892	The Chair will state to the Senator from South Dakota that the bill can not be in conference. because the conferees can not act without the papers. and the papers are upon the Secretarys desk.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	72	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	432	435	08181921.txt	192	35
670,080,893	Would it be unparliamentary to ask where the bill is and what situation it is in?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	73	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	436	437	08181921.txt	81	16
670,080,894	The bill is here in the Senate. upon the Secretarys desk. and the Seriator from South Dakota has now moved to take it up. and that is the motion before the Senate.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	74	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	438	441	08181921.txt	163	32
670,080,895	I supposed it had been taken up. I supposed the motion now was to disagree.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	75	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	442	443	08181921.txt	75	15
670,080,896	To take it up for the purpose of making the motion to disagree. That Is the object in taking it up.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	76	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	444	445	08181921.txt	99	21
670,080,897	The Sfnator has already moved to disagree.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	77	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	446	447	08181921.txt	42	7
670,080,898	The first question that the Chair will put -to the Senate is. Shall the Senate proceed to the consideration of this bill?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	78	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	449	451	08181921.txt	121	22
670,080,899	The Senator from South Daliota now moves that the Senate shall insist-	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	79	Tie PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	455	457	08181921.txt	70	12
670,080,900	SEoRETARY. That the Senate disagree to the amendments of the House to its amendments numbered 10. 15. and 32.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	80	The ASSISTANT	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	458	460	08181921.txt	109	19
670,080,901	The question is upon the motion of the Senator from South Dakota.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	81	Tihe PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	461	462	08181921.txt	65	12
670,080,902	Mr. President. does not the Senator propose to disagree to the House amendment to the Senate amendment known as No. 32?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	82	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	463	465	08181921.txt	119	21
670,080,903	Certainly. That Is involved in this motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	83	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	466	467	08181921.txt	43	7
670,080,904	Judging from the three amendments mentioned by the Secretary. it was not.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	84	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	468	469	08181921.txt	73	12
670,080,905	Amendments numbered 10. 15. and 32 are the amendments in disagreement.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	85	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	470	471	08181921.txt	70	11
670,080,906	Mr. President. if the motion to disagree prevails. those papers will remain here. because there is no direction to send them anywhere. Is not that the case. without some further motion?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	86	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	472	475	08181921.txt	185	31
670,080,907	Mr. President-	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	87	Mr. ASHURST	Unknown	ASHURST	Unknown	M	476	476	08181921.txt	14	2
670,080,908	The Chair would be of the opinion that if the motion to. disagree should prevail. the papers would go back to the House of Representatives. and the House of Representatives would have an opportunity to recede.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	88	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	477	480	08181921.txt	209	36
670,080,909	Suppose the motion to disagree should fail?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	89	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	481	481	08181921.txt	43	7
670,080,910	Mr. President-	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	90	Mr. ASHURST	Unknown	ASHURST	Unknown	M	482	482	08181921.txt	14	2
670,080,911	Oh. if it should fail?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	91	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	483	483	08181921.txt	22	5
670,080,912	Then the matter would go to conference. the two Houses being in full disagreement.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	92	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	485	486	08181921.txt	82	14
670,080,913	Mr. President. will the Senator yield to me at this point?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	93	Mr. ASHURST	Unknown	ASHURST	Unknown	M	487	488	08181921.txt	58	11
670,080,914	If the Senator will allow me just a moment. suppose the motion to disagree should fail?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	94	Mi. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	Unknown	489	490	08181921.txt	87	16
670,080,915	That is the same question that the Senator from Louisiana [Mr. BnioussAnn] put to the Chair. To be very frank. the Chair is familiar with the rule of the House of Representatives upon that question. but he is not familiar with the rule of the Senate. and lie would like to be advised with reference to it when it comes up.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	95	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	491	496	08181921.txt	322	61
670,080,916	My object in making the inquiry is that I think the Senate ought to know the effect of its vote. Now. the papers are here.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	96	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	497	499	08181921.txt	122	25
670,080,917	The Chair will again state that the Chair is not prepared to exptess an opinion upon that question. and will have to rule upon it when it arises.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	97	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	500	502	08181921.txt	145	28
670,080,918	Mr. President. if the Senator from South Dakota will yield to me for a moment. surely on this important natter there should be no mystifying. and I do not assert that anyone is attempting to mystify. There should be no underbrush to be cleared away. Why can not the usual motion. which has been made for one hundred and thirtyodd years in such cases. he made in this case as in all others. to wit. that the Senate insist upon its amendments-	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	98	Mr. ASHURST	Unknown	ASHURST	Unknown	M	503	510	08181921.txt	441	82
670,080,919	That is the proper motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	99	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	511	511	08181921.txt	26	5
670,080,920	Ask a conference with the House. and that the Chair appoint the conferees? Then there is no complexity. Then lie who runs may read. and possibly lie who reads will run. but certainly a babe in the woods will know what we are doing. There will be nothing under cover. There can be no camouflage. We have disagreed to many House amendments. we have asked for a conference. and we have insisted on our own amendments. We insist on our own amendments because we are not children mainug mud pies. We do not make an amendment today and disagree to it tomorrow. This is the Senate of the United States. about the business of the people. and not making mud pies. An amendment is a serious thing. Therefore. why does not the Senatorwho is a direct and a very useful Senatormake the motion that always is made? Why adopt this course that is zigzag. that is incomprehensible to some Intellects. my own Included?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	100	Mr. ASHURST	Unknown	ASHURST	Unknown	M	512	527	08181921.txt	900	163
670,080,921	The Chair will state to the Senator from Arizona that what makes the difficulty in the situation is that the Senate has already requested a conference. and the conferees have been appointed.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	101	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	528	531	08181921.txt	190	32
670,080,922	The Senate has already requested a conference. That is quite true. because I happen to be a humble member of the conference. or was. and. of course. I assume that there was a conference or I would not have been called in. but now we are told that there are some amendments as to which we doubt whether they are in conference or not. The papers are here. but the conference Is called. Let us have no mystification about this or any other question. Let us have a squareup. manfashion contest. moved in the usual way. Let all the amendments be before the conferees. and let the Senate adopt the usual motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	102	Mr. ASHURST	Unknown	ASHURST	Unknown	M	532	552	08181921.txt	605	112
670,080,923	Mr. President. it does not seem to me that there is any particular mystification about this. except as Senators mystify it or seek to mystify it. Conferees weYe appointed upon the part of the Senate when the bill passed the Senate with 32 amendments. and I suppose the conferees on the part of the Senate thereby would have jurisdiction to consider all amendments. Then the bill goes to the House. and the House itself. after conferees have been appointed here. considers the bill and makes amendments to certain Senate amendments. Is it not the action here simply to disagree to these amendments made by the House since our conferees were appointed? Having disagreed. will not the conferees originally appointed by the Senate have jurisdiction. if this motion prevails. to disagree to these amendments made by the House. and would not the papers then go to the conferees who have been appointed? I have here the record made in the Senate of the appointment of its conferees and the record made by the House in appointing its conferees.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	103	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	553	570	08181921.txt	1,036	177
670,080,924	My impression is that when the Senator made his motion he made the usual motion to insist. and I am surprised at the RECORD. I Confess.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	104	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	571	573	08181921.txt	135	26
670,080,925	I am surprised at such a record. if that is the RECORD.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	105	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	574	575	08181921.txt	55	12
670,080,926	Did not the Senator include also the usual sentence asking a conference with the House?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	106	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	576	577	08181921.txt	87	15
670,080,927	Certainly. The motion was in words as follows. Mr. President. that the Senate insist upon its amendments made to House bill 7294. that it request a conference. and that the Chair appoint conferees on the part of the Senate. That was the motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	107	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	578	582	08181921.txt	244	43
670,080,928	Mr. President. the CONGRESSIONAL RECoRn does not so state it. I looked at it yesterday.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	108	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	583	584	08181921.txt	87	15
670,080,929	How did the conferees come to be appointed?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	109	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	585	585	08181921.txt	43	8
670,080,930	I suppose that if the Senator said what the RECORD indicated he did-	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	110	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	586	587	08181921.txt	68	13
670,080,931	Where is the RECORD? What does it say?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	111	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	588	588	08181921.txt	38	8
670,080,932	It is right here.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	112	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	589	589	08181921.txt	17	4
670,080,933	It is found on page 4742 of the CONGRESsIoNAL RECORD of August 8.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	113	Mr. ASHURST	Unknown	ASHURST	Unknown	M	590	591	08181921.txt	65	13
670,080,934	The Senator requested a conference. and the Senate voted.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	114	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	592	593	08181921.txt	57	9
670,080,935	Let us have what purports to be the RECORD.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	115	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	594	594	08181921.txt	43	9
670,080,936	I am not objecting to the Senator finding it. I wanted to ask the Chair if the motion to insist upon the Senate amendments would take precedence of a motion to disagree to the House amendment to the Senate amendments.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	116	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	595	598	08181921.txt	217	40
670,080,937	The Chair is of the opinion that it would not.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	117	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	599	600	08181921.txt	46	10
670,080,938	Here is the RECORD:	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	118	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	601	601	08181921.txt	19	4
670,080,939	I move that the Senate request a conference with the House of Representatives upon the bill and amendments. and that the Chair appoint the conferees on the part of the Senate. There was a request for the appointment of conferees. and. of course. there could be a request for the appointment of conferees only if there was an insistence on the part of the Senate.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	119	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	602	607	08181921.txt	362	65
670,080,940	There was no motion to insist upon the Senate amendments.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	120	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	608	609	08181921.txt	57	10
670,080,941	It is left out of the RECORD.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	121	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	610	610	08181921.txt	29	7
670,080,942	I do not know but that it was left out of the motion. too.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	122	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	611	612	08181921.txt	58	14
670,080,943	I do not think it was. I heard the Senator make the motion. and I think it was the usual motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	123	Mr. LODGE	Unknown	LODGE	Unknown	M	613	614	08181921.txt	96	21
670,080,944	That is not my recollection about it.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	124	Mr. BRANDEGEE	Unknown	BRANDEGEE	Unknown	M	615	615	08181921.txt	37	7
670,080,945	It was not left out of the motion.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	125	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	616	616	08181921.txt	34	8
670,080,946	The question is upon the motion of the Senator from South Dakota to disagree to the amendments of the House to the Senate amendments. which have been stated by the Secretary.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	126	The PRESIDING OFFICER	Unknown	Unknown	Unknown	Special	617	620	08181921.txt	174	31
670,080,947	Mr. President. may I inquire of the Senator from South Dakota whether those various amendments which he is asking the Senate now to disagree to have been presented to the Senate seriatim. with an opportunity afforded us to vote separately upon them? It is possible that some of those amendments we might desire to accede to. and if his motion prevails. I understand it would preclude the possibility of a consideration of any of those amendments separately.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	127	Mr. KING	Unknown	KING	Unknown	M	621	628	08181921.txt	457	77
670,080,948	Certainly. that is what it involves. a disagreement.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	128	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	629	630	08181921.txt	52	8
670,080,949	Is the Senate now willing to commit itself to the entire program of the Senator. and assent to what his motion implies. that we disagree to all those amendments? I should like to know what they are. so that I could vote intelligently. I might be willing to agree to some and I might disagree to others. Is the Senator unwilling that we may take that course?	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	129	Mr. KING	Unknown	KING	Unknown	M	631	638	08181921.txt	357	67
670,080,950	No. that is not involved in the motion. I am proceeding upon the very theory on which the conferees were originally appointed on the part of the Senate. supposing that the Senate desired that conferees should stand by the amendments made. The amendments made by the House are contrary to the amendments made by the Senate. and I supposed as a matter of course that the Senate would disagree to the amendments made by the House.	S	"1921-08-18T00:00:00"	130	Mr. STERLING	Unknown	STERLING	Unknown	M	639	646	08181921.txt	427	76

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The House has amended the Senate amendments with amendments. and the Senate up to this point has not acted upon the action of the House.

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I understand that. but the Chair stated a moment ago that when the Senate amended the House bill it had requested a conference. That is so. but the RECORD shows that the Senate did not ihsist upon its amendments. It requested a conference without insisting upon its amendments.

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No. that was not the motion at least that was made. I do not know what the RECORD shows.

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I do.

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I had the motion that I wished to make in mind before making it. and the motion was that the Senate insist on its amendments. request a conference. and that the Chair appoint the conferees on the part of the Senate.

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I have looked at the RECORD. The Senator may have made a motion to insist. but the RECORD does not show it. and we go by the RECORD.

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I am very confident that those are the exact words used in making the motion. I did not examine the RECORD afterwards to see whether or not it appeared in that form.

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I did. and if the RECORD is not corrected the RECORD is the record and the official record.

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Mr. President-

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The Chair will state that he is informed that the RECORD Shows that there was merely a request for a conference without insisting upon the Senate amendments.

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That is what I say.

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That may be. I am not disputing that fact. but I know the language.I used.

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Under that record the House acted within its rights and properly in amending the Senate amendment. and therefore it seems to- the Chair that the motion of the Senator from South Dakota is clearly in order.

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I do not doubt that it is in order. I did not intend to make any point of order against it. I was wondering why that was made. rather than a motion to insist on the Senate amendments.

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I know that that was the motion. although the REcoRDn did not so get it. I had made the motion before.

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It is the customary motion.

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Mr. President-

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Does the Senator from South Dakota yield to the Senator from Massachusetts?

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I yield to the Senator. understand. There is only one official record of this body. and that is the Journal. Now. does the Journal show that motion in the same way? I presume it does.

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The Chair is informed that the Journal does not show that a motion was made to insist.

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That. of course. is the only official record.

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Mr. President. a parliamentary inquiry. Can the two be included in the one motionthat the Senate disagree to the House amendments and insist upon the amendments of the Senate?

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The Chair is willing to be corrected. but the Chairs first impression would be that the motion would be in order. but is a divisible motion.

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I make that motion.

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The Chair will state that. of course. if the motion to insist should be carried it would have to go back to the House. It would not go to conference.

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Let me ask the Senator a question. The Senator states that he makes the motion so that the record may be straight. May I ask him what progress the conference committee has made?

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The conference committee are in disagreement yet upon just one amendment. and I think there is a probability that they will reach an agreement today.

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The Chair will state. if he may. his understanding of the parliamentary situation. namely. that if the motion to disagree shall prevail. without any further motion the conferees will have Immediate jurisdiction of the papers. and can proceed to conference. If the motion to insist shall be made and prevail the matter will have to go back to the House before the conferees can assume jurisdiction.

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I hope some confidence will be put in the conferees on the part of the Senate. and that the motion will be simply that there be a disagreement to the amendments made by the House.

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Mr. President. a parliamentary inquiry.

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The Senator will state it.

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What would be the parliamentary situnation if the Senate did not act favorably on this motion? Would that have the effect of agreeing to the.House amendments?

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The Chair would prefer. because it will require some time. to wait until that matter comes up and he has an opportunity to examine the question.

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I am sure that a great many Senators would be guided by a knowledge of what would be the rule with the matter In such a condition.

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The Chair is not prepared to express an opinion at this time upon that question.

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Mr. President. may I be allowed a word on that subject? .

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The Senator from Wyoming.

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When the pending motion carries. that puts it in the hands of the conferees. Then a motion of the Senate to Instruct those conferees does instruct. if It carries.

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But it does not instruct them in any way unless the Senate. by a majority vote. may so instruct them.

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Mr. President. is the bill in conference now? I understand that the conferees have agreed upon all except one matter. and yet apparently. from the motion of the Senator from South Dakota. the bill has not yet been sent to conference.

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I will say to the Senator that the bill is in conference. but in order that the record may be straight with reference to the authority and jurisdiction of the conferees now upon these particular amendments this motion is made. We have been in conference in regard to other amendments.

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The Chair will state to the Senator from South Dakota that the bill can not be in conference. because the conferees can not act without the papers. and the papers are upon the Secretarys desk.

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Would it be unparliamentary to ask where the bill is and what situation it is in?

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The bill is here in the Senate. upon the Secretarys desk. and the Seriator from South Dakota has now moved to take it up. and that is the motion before the Senate.

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I supposed it had been taken up. I supposed the motion now was to disagree.

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To take it up for the purpose of making the motion to disagree. That Is the object in taking it up.

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The Sfnator has already moved to disagree.

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The first question that the Chair will put -to the Senate is. Shall the Senate proceed to the consideration of this bill?

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The Senator from South Daliota now moves that the Senate shall insist-

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SEoRETARY. That the Senate disagree to the amendments of the House to its amendments numbered 10. 15. and 32.

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The question is upon the motion of the Senator from South Dakota.

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Mr. President. does not the Senator propose to disagree to the House amendment to the Senate amendment known as No. 32?

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Certainly. That Is involved in this motion.

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Judging from the three amendments mentioned by the Secretary. it was not.

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Amendments numbered 10. 15. and 32 are the amendments in disagreement.

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Mr. President. if the motion to disagree prevails. those papers will remain here. because there is no direction to send them anywhere. Is not that the case. without some further motion?

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Mr. President-

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The Chair would be of the opinion that if the motion to. disagree should prevail. the papers would go back to the House of Representatives. and the House of Representatives would have an opportunity to recede.

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Suppose the motion to disagree should fail?

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Mr. President-

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Oh. if it should fail?

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Then the matter would go to conference. the two Houses being in full disagreement.

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Mr. President. will the Senator yield to me at this point?

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If the Senator will allow me just a moment. suppose the motion to disagree should fail?

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That is the same question that the Senator from Louisiana [Mr. BnioussAnn] put to the Chair. To be very frank. the Chair is familiar with the rule of the House of Representatives upon that question. but he is not familiar with the rule of the Senate. and lie would like to be advised with reference to it when it comes up.

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My object in making the inquiry is that I think the Senate ought to know the effect of its vote. Now. the papers are here.

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The Chair will again state that the Chair is not prepared to exptess an opinion upon that question. and will have to rule upon it when it arises.

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Mr. President. if the Senator from South Dakota will yield to me for a moment. surely on this important natter there should be no mystifying. and I do not assert that anyone is attempting to mystify. There should be no underbrush to be cleared away. Why can not the usual motion. which has been made for one hundred and thirtyodd years in such cases. he made in this case as in all others. to wit. that the Senate insist upon its amendments-

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That is the proper motion.

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Ask a conference with the House. and that the Chair appoint the conferees? Then there is no complexity. Then lie who runs may read. and possibly lie who reads will run. but certainly a babe in the woods will know what we are doing. There will be nothing under cover. There can be no camouflage. We have disagreed to many House amendments. we have asked for a conference. and we have insisted on our own amendments. We insist on our own amendments because we are not children mainug mud pies. We do not make an amendment today and disagree to it tomorrow. This is the Senate of the United States. about the business of the people. and not making mud pies. An amendment is a serious thing. Therefore. why does not the Senatorwho is a direct and a very useful Senatormake the motion that always is made? Why adopt this course that is zigzag. that is incomprehensible to some Intellects. my own Included?

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The Chair will state to the Senator from Arizona that what makes the difficulty in the situation is that the Senate has already requested a conference. and the conferees have been appointed.

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The Senate has already requested a conference. That is quite true. because I happen to be a humble member of the conference. or was. and. of course. I assume that there was a conference or I would not have been called in. but now we are told that there are some amendments as to which we doubt whether they are in conference or not. The papers are here. but the conference Is called. Let us have no mystification about this or any other question. Let us have a squareup. manfashion contest. moved in the usual way. Let all the amendments be before the conferees. and let the Senate adopt the usual motion.

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Mr. President. it does not seem to me that there is any particular mystification about this. except as Senators mystify it or seek to mystify it. Conferees weYe appointed upon the part of the Senate when the bill passed the Senate with 32 amendments. and I suppose the conferees on the part of the Senate thereby would have jurisdiction to consider all amendments. Then the bill goes to the House. and the House itself. after conferees have been appointed here. considers the bill and makes amendments to certain Senate amendments. Is it not the action here simply to disagree to these amendments made by the House since our conferees were appointed? Having disagreed. will not the conferees originally appointed by the Senate have jurisdiction. if this motion prevails. to disagree to these amendments made by the House. and would not the papers then go to the conferees who have been appointed? I have here the record made in the Senate of the appointment of its conferees and the record made by the House in appointing its conferees.

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My impression is that when the Senator made his motion he made the usual motion to insist. and I am surprised at the RECORD. I Confess.

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I am surprised at such a record. if that is the RECORD.

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Did not the Senator include also the usual sentence asking a conference with the House?

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Certainly. The motion was in words as follows. Mr. President. that the Senate insist upon its amendments made to House bill 7294. that it request a conference. and that the Chair appoint conferees on the part of the Senate. That was the motion.

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Mr. President. the CONGRESSIONAL RECoRn does not so state it. I looked at it yesterday.

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How did the conferees come to be appointed?

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I suppose that if the Senator said what the RECORD indicated he did-

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Where is the RECORD? What does it say?

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It is right here.

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It is found on page 4742 of the CONGRESsIoNAL RECORD of August 8.

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The Senator requested a conference. and the Senate voted.

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Let us have what purports to be the RECORD.

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I am not objecting to the Senator finding it. I wanted to ask the Chair if the motion to insist upon the Senate amendments would take precedence of a motion to disagree to the House amendment to the Senate amendments.

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The Chair is of the opinion that it would not.

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Here is the RECORD:

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I move that the Senate request a conference with the House of Representatives upon the bill and amendments. and that the Chair appoint the conferees on the part of the Senate. There was a request for the appointment of conferees. and. of course. there could be a request for the appointment of conferees only if there was an insistence on the part of the Senate.

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There was no motion to insist upon the Senate amendments.

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It is left out of the RECORD.

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I do not know but that it was left out of the motion. too.

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I do not think it was. I heard the Senator make the motion. and I think it was the usual motion.

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That is not my recollection about it.

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It was not left out of the motion.

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The question is upon the motion of the Senator from South Dakota to disagree to the amendments of the House to the Senate amendments. which have been stated by the Secretary.

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Mr. President. may I inquire of the Senator from South Dakota whether those various amendments which he is asking the Senate now to disagree to have been presented to the Senate seriatim. with an opportunity afforded us to vote separately upon them? It is possible that some of those amendments we might desire to accede to. and if his motion prevails. I understand it would preclude the possibility of a consideration of any of those amendments separately.

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Certainly. that is what it involves. a disagreement.

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Is the Senate now willing to commit itself to the entire program of the Senator. and assent to what his motion implies. that we disagree to all those amendments? I should like to know what they are. so that I could vote intelligently. I might be willing to agree to some and I might disagree to others. Is the Senator unwilling that we may take that course?

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No. that is not involved in the motion. I am proceeding upon the very theory on which the conferees were originally appointed on the part of the Senate. supposing that the Senate desired that conferees should stand by the amendments made. The amendments made by the House are contrary to the amendments made by the Senate. and I supposed as a matter of course that the Senate would disagree to the amendments made by the House.

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