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user: why is academia such a hated field? i've never seen another field (except law, perhaps) where the people involved despise their own field of work so much. this sub is itself filled with tons of discouraging posts. "it pays peanuts", "work hours are inhuman", etc. even profs themselves are like "yeah, i'm really lucky to have this job, but..." genuinely sorry if i sound rude. didn't mean to though. it's just that for a student of science who dreams of becoming a prof someday, the negativity gets tiring sometimes. i understand no job is all rosy, but if academia is really as bad as people make it out to be, why is it so saturated? i have doctors and vets in my family. they seem really, really proud of their professions despite all the hardships that come with them. why don't people in academia feel the same way? even the general public don't seem to look up to us the way they do to a doctor or a lawyer. they think we are just wasting taxpayers' money. it isn't that we work any less hard or are less "intelligent" than those in medicine or the military. then why isn't our work appreciated? aren't we the people who are supposed to be charting the course of humanity's future and making this world a better place? bot: also, this is reddit. people come here to complain. people who are happy with their jobs are, well, happy practicing their jobs. don’t think reddit provides a full picture.
user: why is academia such a hated field? i've never seen another field (except law, perhaps) where the people involved despise their own field of work so much. this sub is itself filled with tons of discouraging posts. "it pays peanuts", "work hours are inhuman", etc. even profs themselves are like "yeah, i'm really lucky to have this job, but..." genuinely sorry if i sound rude. didn't mean to though. it's just that for a student of science who dreams of becoming a prof someday, the negativity gets tiring sometimes. i understand no job is all rosy, but if academia is really as bad as people make it out to be, why is it so saturated? i have doctors and vets in my family. they seem really, really proud of their professions despite all the hardships that come with them. why don't people in academia feel the same way? even the general public don't seem to look up to us the way they do to a doctor or a lawyer. they think we are just wasting taxpayers' money. it isn't that we work any less hard or are less "intelligent" than those in medicine or the military. then why isn't our work appreciated? aren't we the people who are supposed to be charting the course of humanity's future and making this world a better place? bot: i work at a vet school, and the vets complain just as much about hours and pay and the way clients treat them... like academics, just because you complain doesn’t mean you don’t love your job and believe your work makes a difference.
user: why is academia such a hated field? i've never seen another field (except law, perhaps) where the people involved despise their own field of work so much. this sub is itself filled with tons of discouraging posts. "it pays peanuts", "work hours are inhuman", etc. even profs themselves are like "yeah, i'm really lucky to have this job, but..." genuinely sorry if i sound rude. didn't mean to though. it's just that for a student of science who dreams of becoming a prof someday, the negativity gets tiring sometimes. i understand no job is all rosy, but if academia is really as bad as people make it out to be, why is it so saturated? i have doctors and vets in my family. they seem really, really proud of their professions despite all the hardships that come with them. why don't people in academia feel the same way? even the general public don't seem to look up to us the way they do to a doctor or a lawyer. they think we are just wasting taxpayers' money. it isn't that we work any less hard or are less "intelligent" than those in medicine or the military. then why isn't our work appreciated? aren't we the people who are supposed to be charting the course of humanity's future and making this world a better place? bot: the issue is actually pretty straightforward. we - on the whole - love our research, and love our teaching. however, we work in a system which is administered by people who don't actually value those two things particularly. the metrics we are gauged against are not good metrics of performance or achievement. the people who manage us are not trying to help us improve in those two things, but to manoeuvre us to increase our ratings on these crappy metrics in more cost efficient and profit-making ways (profit for the organisation, not the people doing the work). the pay structure in academia has stagnated on the academic scales, while senior management pay rises have been ludicrous. there has been a drive toward the casualisation of staff, whereby trying to get contracts to employ colleagues on permanent (us tt) style contracts is ever harder, and instead we expect junior staff to exist on a sequence of fixed-term contracts with limited opportunities to climb the - already deflated - pay spines, and, as a result of their temporary contract status, hinder their ability to even apply for grants which might help them find better positions. in terms of research funding, the amount of funding becoming available has been cut and cut. the methods of allocating funding have become comical. for example, int the uk, the natural environment research council, who award all government funding for geology, earth sciences, environmental sciences, etc had so many people applying for funding, and so little money to give out that they started requiring universities to filter who was applying., so now to apply to nerc you have to first of all go through an internal review process. and many universities are limited in the number of grants they can submit each round (perhaps as few as 1 or 2). so you can be in a situation where you ahve a department of 10 or 15 people, but only one of you can submit a proposal to nerc each round. once you get through that filter your success rate at the nerc panel is currently about 7 or 8%. proposals are graded from 1-10. in the past if you scored a 7 or 8 you had a fighting chance of getting funded. these days if you don't have a 9 you have no chance, and even a 9 just becomes a roll of the dice as to whether you get fuinded. our work - when we do publish it - gets used by publishers to sustain a toxic model of publishing houses; our grants get squeezed for publication fees, while our university libraries get charged to access the publications that we end up having to pay to publish. the he sector got co-opted by suits in the 90s and they are milking it to death. that said, there are few other opportunities for me to work in my field, and no other opportunities for me to teach at this level.
user: why is academia such a hated field? i've never seen another field (except law, perhaps) where the people involved despise their own field of work so much. this sub is itself filled with tons of discouraging posts. "it pays peanuts", "work hours are inhuman", etc. even profs themselves are like "yeah, i'm really lucky to have this job, but..." genuinely sorry if i sound rude. didn't mean to though. it's just that for a student of science who dreams of becoming a prof someday, the negativity gets tiring sometimes. i understand no job is all rosy, but if academia is really as bad as people make it out to be, why is it so saturated? i have doctors and vets in my family. they seem really, really proud of their professions despite all the hardships that come with them. why don't people in academia feel the same way? even the general public don't seem to look up to us the way they do to a doctor or a lawyer. they think we are just wasting taxpayers' money. it isn't that we work any less hard or are less "intelligent" than those in medicine or the military. then why isn't our work appreciated? aren't we the people who are supposed to be charting the course of humanity's future and making this world a better place? bot: i work at a vet school, and the vets complain just as much about hours and pay and the way clients treat them... like academics, just because you complain doesn’t mean you don’t love your job and believe your work makes a difference.
user: why is academia such a hated field? i've never seen another field (except law, perhaps) where the people involved despise their own field of work so much. this sub is itself filled with tons of discouraging posts. "it pays peanuts", "work hours are inhuman", etc. even profs themselves are like "yeah, i'm really lucky to have this job, but..." genuinely sorry if i sound rude. didn't mean to though. it's just that for a student of science who dreams of becoming a prof someday, the negativity gets tiring sometimes. i understand no job is all rosy, but if academia is really as bad as people make it out to be, why is it so saturated? i have doctors and vets in my family. they seem really, really proud of their professions despite all the hardships that come with them. why don't people in academia feel the same way? even the general public don't seem to look up to us the way they do to a doctor or a lawyer. they think we are just wasting taxpayers' money. it isn't that we work any less hard or are less "intelligent" than those in medicine or the military. then why isn't our work appreciated? aren't we the people who are supposed to be charting the course of humanity's future and making this world a better place? bot: the issue is actually pretty straightforward. we - on the whole - love our research, and love our teaching. however, we work in a system which is administered by people who don't actually value those two things particularly. the metrics we are gauged against are not good metrics of performance or achievement. the people who manage us are not trying to help us improve in those two things, but to manoeuvre us to increase our ratings on these crappy metrics in more cost efficient and profit-making ways (profit for the organisation, not the people doing the work). the pay structure in academia has stagnated on the academic scales, while senior management pay rises have been ludicrous. there has been a drive toward the casualisation of staff, whereby trying to get contracts to employ colleagues on permanent (us tt) style contracts is ever harder, and instead we expect junior staff to exist on a sequence of fixed-term contracts with limited opportunities to climb the - already deflated - pay spines, and, as a result of their temporary contract status, hinder their ability to even apply for grants which might help them find better positions. in terms of research funding, the amount of funding becoming available has been cut and cut. the methods of allocating funding have become comical. for example, int the uk, the natural environment research council, who award all government funding for geology, earth sciences, environmental sciences, etc had so many people applying for funding, and so little money to give out that they started requiring universities to filter who was applying., so now to apply to nerc you have to first of all go through an internal review process. and many universities are limited in the number of grants they can submit each round (perhaps as few as 1 or 2). so you can be in a situation where you ahve a department of 10 or 15 people, but only one of you can submit a proposal to nerc each round. once you get through that filter your success rate at the nerc panel is currently about 7 or 8%. proposals are graded from 1-10. in the past if you scored a 7 or 8 you had a fighting chance of getting funded. these days if you don't have a 9 you have no chance, and even a 9 just becomes a roll of the dice as to whether you get fuinded. our work - when we do publish it - gets used by publishers to sustain a toxic model of publishing houses; our grants get squeezed for publication fees, while our university libraries get charged to access the publications that we end up having to pay to publish. the he sector got co-opted by suits in the 90s and they are milking it to death. that said, there are few other opportunities for me to work in my field, and no other opportunities for me to teach at this level.
user: why is academia such a hated field? i've never seen another field (except law, perhaps) where the people involved despise their own field of work so much. this sub is itself filled with tons of discouraging posts. "it pays peanuts", "work hours are inhuman", etc. even profs themselves are like "yeah, i'm really lucky to have this job, but..." genuinely sorry if i sound rude. didn't mean to though. it's just that for a student of science who dreams of becoming a prof someday, the negativity gets tiring sometimes. i understand no job is all rosy, but if academia is really as bad as people make it out to be, why is it so saturated? i have doctors and vets in my family. they seem really, really proud of their professions despite all the hardships that come with them. why don't people in academia feel the same way? even the general public don't seem to look up to us the way they do to a doctor or a lawyer. they think we are just wasting taxpayers' money. it isn't that we work any less hard or are less "intelligent" than those in medicine or the military. then why isn't our work appreciated? aren't we the people who are supposed to be charting the course of humanity's future and making this world a better place? bot: reddit gives you a very skewed perspective on the matter. many people use reddit to vent about the negative aspects of academia. in reality, many people are happy - with their pis, with their labmates, their projects, their fellow faculty members, etc. those people aren't posting here. that's not to say negative environments don't exist. just remember that a lot of people use reddit to vent, and while they deserve a place to vent, they are not representative in general.
user: do people really read all the papers they cite? or do they just read the abstracts? or do they just read someone elses’ literature review and cite what they said about the paper? bot: looking at papers that cite mine, there are many where it’s clear they have only read the title and misinterpreted it.
user: do people really read all the papers they cite? or do they just read the abstracts? or do they just read someone elses’ literature review and cite what they said about the paper? bot: i've always wondered about this myself. in my case, what typically ends up happening is that i would have read about 30% of the papers i cite in detail and are closely related to the central points being made in the paper. another 30% that i have read but not in great detail. this leaves about 40% of the papers where i have only read the "relevant bits" and are my attempt to situate my work in a broader setting. if the paper has a large number of authors, then sometimes coauthors cite papers i have never read based on their expertise and i trust that they are relevant and cited appropriately. i'm not saying this is the right/good way and i do worry i somehow screwed up in the citations i did not read in great detail.
user: do people really read all the papers they cite? or do they just read the abstracts? or do they just read someone elses’ literature review and cite what they said about the paper? bot: looking at papers that cite mine, there are many where it’s clear they have only read the title and misinterpreted it.
user: do people really read all the papers they cite? or do they just read the abstracts? or do they just read someone elses’ literature review and cite what they said about the paper? bot: it really differs based on the field, even subfield. some fields you are expected to cite every paper you looked at while writing, others you only cite papers that you take exact quotes from. it also depends what you’re citing it for; if it’s a situation where you’re citing work on an algorithm by someone you’ve previously collaborated with, you’ve probably read the paper in-depth and perhaps even discussed it with the author. if it’s the equivalent of a footnote where you just cite the paper in the introduction as evidence that someone else has looked at a similar topic before, you might have only even read the title. there isn’t really a single answer to this question.
user: do people really read all the papers they cite? or do they just read the abstracts? or do they just read someone elses’ literature review and cite what they said about the paper? bot: for long time, i thought i must read and understand every bit of the paper. it was a kind of idée fix for me. this was utterly devastating, and sometimes i couldn’t finish one paper in a week: it always felt that i didn’t read enough, that i don’t understand it fully, so i reread, start to procrastinate - and... you know the rest. anyway, i guess, the most efficient way is to read diagonally and try to find the bits that suit tour purpose, not the rest of it. most usually, i spend now from 15 to 40 minutes for one paper
user: do people really read all the papers they cite? or do they just read the abstracts? or do they just read someone elses’ literature review and cite what they said about the paper? bot: depends on the type of paper and the point you are putting across through tge citation. if you are doing a literature review, reading all the papers is essential. however if you are just stating that this theory has been applied to other fields in the recent years, reading and understanding the abstract will do. the primary reason for citing is to show that whatever you are saying is backed up by peer reviewed papers. sometimes i read the abstract, methods and the conclusion of papers if i am in a rush. if the paper is good, figures often explain the results much better than the text.
user: do people really read all the papers they cite? or do they just read the abstracts? or do they just read someone elses’ literature review and cite what they said about the paper? bot: for long time, i thought i must read and understand every bit of the paper. it was a kind of idée fix for me. this was utterly devastating, and sometimes i couldn’t finish one paper in a week: it always felt that i didn’t read enough, that i don’t understand it fully, so i reread, start to procrastinate - and... you know the rest. anyway, i guess, the most efficient way is to read diagonally and try to find the bits that suit tour purpose, not the rest of it. most usually, i spend now from 15 to 40 minutes for one paper
user: do people really read all the papers they cite? or do they just read the abstracts? or do they just read someone elses’ literature review and cite what they said about the paper? bot: the first time one of my papers was cited it had absolutely nothing to do with the paper, or even the sentence it was used as a citation for, other than the patient population was the same (cancer patients).
user: tackling misogyny as a female phd researcher how to tackle misogyny from senior white male professors, as a female phd student who is about to defend her thesis? the comments range from passing crude comments on my nation of origin and criticizing my computational skills on a course (without any feedback where i can improve) and similar. i have mostly tried in my phd years to stay away and stop most communications with these persons, but now since they are the principal investigator in my phd project, i need to face them. i see myself as a hard-working person trying to learn and improve, but i cannot work with people who have decided not to work with me because of me being a woman. field of research: theoretical particle physics, country: sweden. bot: this would not be my advice in general, but in this particular case, and thinking only of your personal well being and achievements, if you are "about to defend [your] thesis" then i'm inclined to say keep your head down and get through the defence. i would hate to think that your attempt to confront their behaviour could result in them failing you in retaliation. that isn't to say that that has to be the end of the story. document every instance of bigotry and inappropriate behaviour that you can (if you have any of this in written form, e.g. emails they've sent where they make these crude comments, all the better), and once your phd is secure make that available to whoever at your university oversees conduct (if your department/uni has an equality and diversity officer then they'd be a great resource). this definitely needs to be addressed, but there is a great power imbalance here, and you are in a very vulnerable position with respect to obtaining your phd, so i think it would be better to wait until you're less vulnerable, and get the help of someone with more power in your institution. i want these people to face consequences for their actions, but i don't want *you* to suffer consequences for their actions.
user: tackling misogyny as a female phd researcher how to tackle misogyny from senior white male professors, as a female phd student who is about to defend her thesis? the comments range from passing crude comments on my nation of origin and criticizing my computational skills on a course (without any feedback where i can improve) and similar. i have mostly tried in my phd years to stay away and stop most communications with these persons, but now since they are the principal investigator in my phd project, i need to face them. i see myself as a hard-working person trying to learn and improve, but i cannot work with people who have decided not to work with me because of me being a woman. field of research: theoretical particle physics, country: sweden. bot: hello, i have been the victim of misogyny and harassment in academia, and sexual harassment in the industry. i am also working in stem, in europe. in my experience, you need to speak out and reach out somebody who is higher-up than them. the reasoning is the following... if you are lucky enough and you tell them directly to stop with the help of a **male coworker**, they will. the male coworker part is important, because if a man is involved on your side, they will listen. (i hate that it works like this; but it does). if you are less lucky, this does not work. then, you need to reach out someone with power. a man or woman, both work. explain, provide proof(s), show that you have done your very best to handle the situation in a peaceful manner, but now, you need support. for your phd project, can you reach rh about this? or the people providing the money? or any other person that has more power than them? good luck. you are strong; you can make it. you have the right to report unsafe or unpleasant situations. you have the right like anybody else to a safe, trustworthy and healthy workplace. those are your feelings; and nobody can tell you how to feel differently. in my experience too, reporting those behavior is always scary because of the consequences. but, i am so proud i did! even if i had to change of job twice because of that, i gained friends and respect when telling those stories. i feel like i can stand for a healthier workplace because i have been there; i can put limits so much more easily.
user: tackling misogyny as a female phd researcher how to tackle misogyny from senior white male professors, as a female phd student who is about to defend her thesis? the comments range from passing crude comments on my nation of origin and criticizing my computational skills on a course (without any feedback where i can improve) and similar. i have mostly tried in my phd years to stay away and stop most communications with these persons, but now since they are the principal investigator in my phd project, i need to face them. i see myself as a hard-working person trying to learn and improve, but i cannot work with people who have decided not to work with me because of me being a woman. field of research: theoretical particle physics, country: sweden. bot: > crude comments on my nation of origin what does this have to do with being a woman > criticizing my computational skills on a course what does this have to do with being a woman
user: tackling misogyny as a female phd researcher how to tackle misogyny from senior white male professors, as a female phd student who is about to defend her thesis? the comments range from passing crude comments on my nation of origin and criticizing my computational skills on a course (without any feedback where i can improve) and similar. i have mostly tried in my phd years to stay away and stop most communications with these persons, but now since they are the principal investigator in my phd project, i need to face them. i see myself as a hard-working person trying to learn and improve, but i cannot work with people who have decided not to work with me because of me being a woman. field of research: theoretical particle physics, country: sweden. bot: you are the expert. you are the expert. don't let them you think otherwise. you are the expert. you put in the work. you are the expert. it's your research. you could talk about it in your sleep. focus on the research and the work. i'm rootng for you. if i could i'd be in the audience cheering you on. remember....you...are...the...expert.
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: et al. i enjoy telling my students that it translates into "and friends".
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: capital (t)ruth
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: et al. i enjoy telling my students that it translates into "and friends".
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: my computer science advisor always ask me to "ping" someone he's trying to reach out
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: et al. i enjoy telling my students that it translates into "and friends".
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: the best name for a term i've seen yet is 'the oracle inequality' in machine learning. it's the property that means a model collapses to choosing the (most) correct inputs when faced with too many variables. (i.e it chooses p* when p>n)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: et al. i enjoy telling my students that it translates into "and friends".
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: there is an indo-european mythological kingship ritual that has been variously attached to a few different, disparate cultures. in it, the prospective king is purported to have had sex with a white horse, who is then butchered and put into a large cauldron. the prospective king also gets into this cauldron and a soup is made from the horse and the king that the attendees of this ritual then all eat from. i have heard this described by multiple academics, colloquially, as the "sexy horse feast," and it is one of my goals to continue this tradition (though i, as of yet, have never the opportunity to teach said ritual.)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: capital (t)ruth
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: there is an indo-european mythological kingship ritual that has been variously attached to a few different, disparate cultures. in it, the prospective king is purported to have had sex with a white horse, who is then butchered and put into a large cauldron. the prospective king also gets into this cauldron and a soup is made from the horse and the king that the attendees of this ritual then all eat from. i have heard this described by multiple academics, colloquially, as the "sexy horse feast," and it is one of my goals to continue this tradition (though i, as of yet, have never the opportunity to teach said ritual.)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: my computer science advisor always ask me to "ping" someone he's trying to reach out
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: there is an indo-european mythological kingship ritual that has been variously attached to a few different, disparate cultures. in it, the prospective king is purported to have had sex with a white horse, who is then butchered and put into a large cauldron. the prospective king also gets into this cauldron and a soup is made from the horse and the king that the attendees of this ritual then all eat from. i have heard this described by multiple academics, colloquially, as the "sexy horse feast," and it is one of my goals to continue this tradition (though i, as of yet, have never the opportunity to teach said ritual.)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: the best name for a term i've seen yet is 'the oracle inequality' in machine learning. it's the property that means a model collapses to choosing the (most) correct inputs when faced with too many variables. (i.e it chooses p* when p>n)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: there is an indo-european mythological kingship ritual that has been variously attached to a few different, disparate cultures. in it, the prospective king is purported to have had sex with a white horse, who is then butchered and put into a large cauldron. the prospective king also gets into this cauldron and a soup is made from the horse and the king that the attendees of this ritual then all eat from. i have heard this described by multiple academics, colloquially, as the "sexy horse feast," and it is one of my goals to continue this tradition (though i, as of yet, have never the opportunity to teach said ritual.)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: "i'm going to push back on that" - as a non-confrontational way to disagree
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: capital (t)ruth
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: "i'm going to push back on that" - as a non-confrontational way to disagree
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: my computer science advisor always ask me to "ping" someone he's trying to reach out
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: "i'm going to push back on that" - as a non-confrontational way to disagree
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: the best name for a term i've seen yet is 'the oracle inequality' in machine learning. it's the property that means a model collapses to choosing the (most) correct inputs when faced with too many variables. (i.e it chooses p* when p>n)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: "i'm going to push back on that" - as a non-confrontational way to disagree
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: in my field, there's a conference management software system called hotcrp, but people orally refer to it as "hot crap"... even though it's pretty good!
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: the best name for a term i've seen yet is 'the oracle inequality' in machine learning. it's the property that means a model collapses to choosing the (most) correct inputs when faced with too many variables. (i.e it chooses p* when p>n)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: in my field, there's a conference management software system called hotcrp, but people orally refer to it as "hot crap"... even though it's pretty good!
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: something along the lines of "we would like to thank reviewer 2 for their insightful and constructive comments, which we feel have improved the manuscript" is a lovely example of academic jargon that means: "we resent reviewer 2 and their inane comments, but we have grudgingly made some token changes that they asked for in the hope that it satisfies their ego enough to accept the resubmission of this paper, which was already perfectly good without us adding a sentence reference the suggested citation, which was almost certainly written by reviewer 2."
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: unity instead of one! maybe i’m just not mathy enough to understand why we do this?
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: something along the lines of "we would like to thank reviewer 2 for their insightful and constructive comments, which we feel have improved the manuscript" is a lovely example of academic jargon that means: "we resent reviewer 2 and their inane comments, but we have grudgingly made some token changes that they asked for in the hope that it satisfies their ego enough to accept the resubmission of this paper, which was already perfectly good without us adding a sentence reference the suggested citation, which was almost certainly written by reviewer 2."
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: “sacrificed” (or sac’d) as another way to say “euthanized.” depending on your pov it’s either an acknowledgment of the sanctity of life and the loss that occurs during the course of research, or an acknowledgment that success of experiments feel like they are dictated by a random number generator in the sky.
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: something along the lines of "we would like to thank reviewer 2 for their insightful and constructive comments, which we feel have improved the manuscript" is a lovely example of academic jargon that means: "we resent reviewer 2 and their inane comments, but we have grudgingly made some token changes that they asked for in the hope that it satisfies their ego enough to accept the resubmission of this paper, which was already perfectly good without us adding a sentence reference the suggested citation, which was almost certainly written by reviewer 2."
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: the ways in which
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: something along the lines of "we would like to thank reviewer 2 for their insightful and constructive comments, which we feel have improved the manuscript" is a lovely example of academic jargon that means: "we resent reviewer 2 and their inane comments, but we have grudgingly made some token changes that they asked for in the hope that it satisfies their ego enough to accept the resubmission of this paper, which was already perfectly good without us adding a sentence reference the suggested citation, which was almost certainly written by reviewer 2."
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: something along the lines of "we would like to thank reviewer 2 for their insightful and constructive comments, which we feel have improved the manuscript" is a lovely example of academic jargon that means: "we resent reviewer 2 and their inane comments, but we have grudgingly made some token changes that they asked for in the hope that it satisfies their ego enough to accept the resubmission of this paper, which was already perfectly good without us adding a sentence reference the suggested citation, which was almost certainly written by reviewer 2."
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: mmhmmmm, let's workshop that a bit. or, one of my favourites. mmmm, yea. okay. we've got a draft here! good, good.
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: i have to suppress a sophomoric giggle when i see something from the proceedings of the national academy of sciences. one point in my phd defense was an argument between committee members on “significant” vs “statistically significant.”
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: "is that an epistemological or ontological take on that?" no one knows what those are, good grief.
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: “an adequately-powered, double-blinded, placebo-controlled, randomized trial”
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: “an adequately-powered, double-blinded, placebo-controlled, randomized trial”
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: mmhmmmm, let's workshop that a bit. or, one of my favourites. mmmm, yea. okay. we've got a draft here! good, good.
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: saying "the way(s) in which" instead of "how." this sentence structure: "it's not that [x]; rather, [y]. indeed, [elaboration on y]." neither is exactly problematic or even objectionable, they're just so ubiquitous in my corner of academia they drive me crazy. all the words in the famously fucky english language and people really can't come up with anything else?? oy.
user: what is your 'favorite' academic jargon? from my grad advisor years back: 'not to be pedantic' then followed by something that is either common knowledge or incredibly obscure. field specific jargon that even most people that have been researching the topic for decades don't even know. bot: (re)
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: i think he is just so caught up in always playing the role of the educator that he doesn't have discussions with people, he just "tells them how it is" as if he knows literally everything, even on controversial topics on politics or quantum physics where he certainly is not an expert. this has led him to be commonly perceived as a pretentious and condescending douche who just relentlessly talks at/over someone instead of having a discussion. he just is such an unpleasant person to listen to - like when he was on jre last time: https://youtu.be/egikak3suie. this is not to say that he isn't a great educator - he certainly has been a strong and beneficial promoter of scientific literacy in general. it just stands out to me that a lot of people think he is a dick because of his interviews.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: he is great at that part of science that is often overlooked: outreach. and i think that outreach is fundamental part of the economics of research. at the end, most of the hardcore theoretical science is funded by the government, aka the taxpayer, so it is very alarming, in my opinion, when they have little to no idea of what science is doing or what is the purpose. as the gap between frontier knowledge and the average joe widens, plus the current populist wave, i can see a future where the people start asking, wait, why are we funding all of these pretentious people that won't even take time to explain themselves? luckily there are people like neil degrasse.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: its funny until this post i thought my feelings about neil were uncommon. he comes off as a complete narcissist which is doubly bad when he is (frequently) talking about shit he doesn't understand. my favorite example is when he mentioned to joe rogan that there are multiple sizes of infinity which is technically correct. then he went on to "explain" several examples of this, each of which was completely wrong and/or utter nonsense.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: he is great at that part of science that is often overlooked: outreach. and i think that outreach is fundamental part of the economics of research. at the end, most of the hardcore theoretical science is funded by the government, aka the taxpayer, so it is very alarming, in my opinion, when they have little to no idea of what science is doing or what is the purpose. as the gap between frontier knowledge and the average joe widens, plus the current populist wave, i can see a future where the people start asking, wait, why are we funding all of these pretentious people that won't even take time to explain themselves? luckily there are people like neil degrasse.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: its funny until this post i thought my feelings about neil were uncommon. he comes off as a complete narcissist which is doubly bad when he is (frequently) talking about shit he doesn't understand. my favorite example is when he mentioned to joe rogan that there are multiple sizes of infinity which is technically correct. then he went on to "explain" several examples of this, each of which was completely wrong and/or utter nonsense.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: here’s my take on it: he’s become dogmatic about science. kind of like religious folk who proselytize their viewpoint and have no room for the understandings of life from different shoes. unwilling to listen and respect, rather just talking at you, self-assured of their righteous beliefs. i see neil degrasee tyson like this and that’s why i can’t bear to listen to him anymore. i think i agree with the majority of what he says, but to listen to his condescending tone puts me off.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: its funny until this post i thought my feelings about neil were uncommon. he comes off as a complete narcissist which is doubly bad when he is (frequently) talking about shit he doesn't understand. my favorite example is when he mentioned to joe rogan that there are multiple sizes of infinity which is technically correct. then he went on to "explain" several examples of this, each of which was completely wrong and/or utter nonsense.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: i lost all respect for him after paying 85$ to see one of his 'talks'and all he did was show us pictures of space-patterned dresses and funny pictures from 9gag, i shit you not
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: he contributes to the great physics tradition of dumping on disciplines he doesn't know anything about, e.g. philosophy, and generally speaking on anything (including far afield from physics) as if being a physicist qualified him to have a worthwhile opinion on any of it.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: here’s my take on it: he’s become dogmatic about science. kind of like religious folk who proselytize their viewpoint and have no room for the understandings of life from different shoes. unwilling to listen and respect, rather just talking at you, self-assured of their righteous beliefs. i see neil degrasee tyson like this and that’s why i can’t bear to listen to him anymore. i think i agree with the majority of what he says, but to listen to his condescending tone puts me off.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: he contributes to the great physics tradition of dumping on disciplines he doesn't know anything about, e.g. philosophy, and generally speaking on anything (including far afield from physics) as if being a physicist qualified him to have a worthwhile opinion on any of it.
user: what do you all think of neil degrasse tyson? this is a super random question but was just curious what other people in academia thought. lately it seems like he goes on twitter and tries to rain on everybody's parade with science. while i can understand having this attitude to pseudo-sciency things, he appears to speak about things he can't possibly be that extensively experienced in as if he's an expert of all things science. i really appreciate what he's done in his career and he's extremely gifted when it comes to outreach and making science interesting to the general public. however, from what i can tell he has a somewhat average record in research (although he was able to get into some top schools which is a feat in and of itself). i guess people just make him out to be a genius but to me it seems like there are probably thousands of less famous people out there who are equally accomplished? bot: i lost all respect for him after paying 85$ to see one of his 'talks'and all he did was show us pictures of space-patterned dresses and funny pictures from 9gag, i shit you not
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: for the most part, the only people i've seen who have strong negative feelings about scihub are those involved in the academic publishing industry. there are vague concerns i've seen others express about whether copies of papers downloaded from scihub are legit (i.e., that someone may have uploaded a fake paper using the doi of a real paper, etc), but i've never seen anyone provide an example of this actually happening. ultimately, there needs to be some middle ground. the economic model of most academic publishers is not sustainable and it's extremely exploitative, but at the same time publishers do add value to manuscripts (not anywhere near enough to legitimize what most charge) so there needs to be some mechanism for publishers to at least recoup their losses. scihub fills a niche at the moment, but the hope that most of us have (i think) is that it won't have to exist forever as more authors, universities, and funding agencies push back on the academic publishers and we more toward a more sustainable model.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: good. making these articles available to people without the means to access them through publishers asking ridiculous prices is important.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: very very bad. definitely don't use it. also definitely don't use gen.lib.rus.ec for textbooks. very bad news.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: it is literally the best thing ever.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: very very bad. definitely don't use it. also definitely don't use gen.lib.rus.ec for textbooks. very bad news.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: a very good thing. publishing companies take money from author, institutions, and readers without paying any of their reviewers . so where does all this money go?
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: very very bad. definitely don't use it. also definitely don't use gen.lib.rus.ec for textbooks. very bad news.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: it's the best thing! i have subscription to all the journals through my academic institution but i still use scihub for the convenience. it is just so quick and easy to use.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: very very bad. definitely don't use it. also definitely don't use gen.lib.rus.ec for textbooks. very bad news.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: good - the article processing charges associated with open access are exorbitant, making it unavailable for many researchers. buying subscriptions to journals is also expensive - without a subscription, accessing a single article may cost up to 40$. i was writing a case report recently and tried to access an orthopedics article published in the early 1990s and it was still behind a paywall.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: very very bad. definitely don't use it. also definitely don't use gen.lib.rus.ec for textbooks. very bad news.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: i think it’s amazing. i found it very helpful in undergrad.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: in many underdeveloped countries, it's the only way people can have access to new research. so... good, i guess
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: it's the best thing! i have subscription to all the journals through my academic institution but i still use scihub for the convenience. it is just so quick and easy to use.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: in many underdeveloped countries, it's the only way people can have access to new research. so... good, i guess
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: i was reading through a proof and the author referenced a result from a different paper. basically saying, we know this is true because [3]. i was trying to generalize the argument so i needed to know the conditions of the theorem/lemma in order to know if i could still use this result. however, everywhere i looked the referenced paper was behind a paywall—even through my institution. it was like 40 dollars to read this one paper..and i just needed to read like a paragraph of it. i looked it up on scihub and had it instantly. i read the paragraph, closed it, and was like cool okay i can still use the reference. i can’t imagine having to pay 40 dollars for that. it’s ridiculous.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: in many underdeveloped countries, it's the only way people can have access to new research. so... good, i guess
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: sometimes i use it to access papers i have access to through the university but am too lazy to remember my login/start up the vpn. don't know where that slots in ethically.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: in many underdeveloped countries, it's the only way people can have access to new research. so... good, i guess
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: good - the article processing charges associated with open access are exorbitant, making it unavailable for many researchers. buying subscriptions to journals is also expensive - without a subscription, accessing a single article may cost up to 40$. i was writing a case report recently and tried to access an orthopedics article published in the early 1990s and it was still behind a paywall.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: in many underdeveloped countries, it's the only way people can have access to new research. so... good, i guess
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: as i see it, the best thing in the academic world.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: in many underdeveloped countries, it's the only way people can have access to new research. so... good, i guess
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: a good thing. copyright doesn’t protect scholars or artists, it protects the wallets of big corporations exploiting our labor for profit without sharing a penny with us.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: in many underdeveloped countries, it's the only way people can have access to new research. so... good, i guess
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: i think it’s amazing. i found it very helpful in undergrad.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: there are not many things i have extremely strong opinions on, but i absolutely support scihub. long live free and open article access!
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: good - the article processing charges associated with open access are exorbitant, making it unavailable for many researchers. buying subscriptions to journals is also expensive - without a subscription, accessing a single article may cost up to 40$. i was writing a case report recently and tried to access an orthopedics article published in the early 1990s and it was still behind a paywall.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: there are not many things i have extremely strong opinions on, but i absolutely support scihub. long live free and open article access!
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: i think it’s amazing. i found it very helpful in undergrad.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: well ethically speaking... it's the best.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: i think it’s amazing. i found it very helpful in undergrad.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: absolutely a good thing. it's perverse that publicly funded research is hidden behind paywalls. the paywalls now are even more ridiculous: both the author and the reader are charged, the reviewers are not paid, and there's not even printing costs to justify it because whoever, outside of fossils, goes searching for a printed version of their journal? literally, we are paying a fuckton of public money for having a .com domain associated to our content. the quicker the system burns, the better.
user: is scihub a good thing or a bad thing? it's blocked at my university and i was just wondering what the general consensus is about this website. happy saturday. bot: i think it’s amazing. i found it very helpful in undergrad.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: bad news - it's not going away. it doesn't matter how much you will achieve it will be with you. good news - everyone feels it. so don't worry too much, it's normal, one step at a time, you'll get there.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: i have a theory that imposter syndrome is closely related to your cultural background, and the kind of representation that academics had in art during your formative years.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: as another woman in stem, it helps me to talk to people in other fields and those outside of academia. i tend to assume a lot of what i know is common knowledge or easy to understand or largely covered in other fields but in different frameworks. when i have to explain my work to someone else, i quickly realize that isn't true. it also gives me a chance to appreciate the other person's expertise and how nice it is that different people are good at different things. i also look for objective markers of my success and try to save them somewhere i can look at them when i forget. it's amazing how those accomplishments disappear from my mind when i am feeling bad about myself.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: i have a theory that imposter syndrome is closely related to your cultural background, and the kind of representation that academics had in art during your formative years.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: this letter written by nobel laureate richard feynman is always my go-to when trying to combat imposture syndrome myself. all these mds at your conference are people, too. they are not omnipotent beings! plus, from what i gather about mds, many of them are somewhat out-of-touch with cutting edge research (particularly outside their specialty). in other words, in the eyes of many of the mds there, *you* will be the expert, even if you don't feel like it. if that makes you uncomfortable, personally, i fall back on what i know and try not to speculate on what i do not. one of the most eye-opening experiences i have had in grad school was at a conference outside of my major domain of study. i went with my advisor and two other faculty--each are very respected in their domains. during a particular session, i felt like an idiot because i just could not understand what was being presented. after the session, all four of us got together and they all felt the same way. the moral of the story being that it's okay not to know everything and everything, there is *always* more to learn. the main purpose for virtually all conferences is to share your knowledge with others. if we already knew everything going it, these conferences would just be an expensive, multi-day happy hour.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: it's not 'you vs curriculum' anymore, it's 'you vs god'. we're all unqualified. finishing your degree isnt about not feeling this way, it's about doing exactly what you're doing. pushing forward despite the emotional trauma. as for speaking, if you've done something someone else hasnt done, then you have something to say. there may or may not be pushback, but saying stuff to other smart people is the job. no one is gonna beat you up afterwards, so just do the best job you can, sit down, feel like shit, second guess, and repeat until you graduate. i hate to put it this way, but fuck your feelings. they're a shit barometer of how you're actually doing. unless you get fired, you're doing fine.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: this letter written by nobel laureate richard feynman is always my go-to when trying to combat imposture syndrome myself. all these mds at your conference are people, too. they are not omnipotent beings! plus, from what i gather about mds, many of them are somewhat out-of-touch with cutting edge research (particularly outside their specialty). in other words, in the eyes of many of the mds there, *you* will be the expert, even if you don't feel like it. if that makes you uncomfortable, personally, i fall back on what i know and try not to speculate on what i do not. one of the most eye-opening experiences i have had in grad school was at a conference outside of my major domain of study. i went with my advisor and two other faculty--each are very respected in their domains. during a particular session, i felt like an idiot because i just could not understand what was being presented. after the session, all four of us got together and they all felt the same way. the moral of the story being that it's okay not to know everything and everything, there is *always* more to learn. the main purpose for virtually all conferences is to share your knowledge with others. if we already knew everything going it, these conferences would just be an expensive, multi-day happy hour.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: is this your first conference presentation?! if so congrats! once you get over the nerves everyone has, it can be really fun and rewarding. everyone is nervous and apprehensive before their first (several) conference presentations; i still get so nervous during conference presentations that i talk 8,000 miles a minute. imposter syndrome is always going to be there. i was applying to tt jobs this time last year and reading the admission requirements for the master's program at a department i was applying to. and i caught myself thinking, "oh gosh, i'm not sure i can get into this program..." and i felt really intimidated for several minutes, until i snapped out of it and realized i already have a masters degree (and a phd and have done 2 post-docs) and that i was being ridiculous. it just never goes away! the only way to gain experience is by doing, and that's what i remind myself all the time. if i let my imposter syndrome get the best of me i won't ever do anything, and then i really won't have the right experience. participate as much as you can, learn from as many people as you can, and remind yourself that we all feel the same insufficiencies.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: this letter written by nobel laureate richard feynman is always my go-to when trying to combat imposture syndrome myself. all these mds at your conference are people, too. they are not omnipotent beings! plus, from what i gather about mds, many of them are somewhat out-of-touch with cutting edge research (particularly outside their specialty). in other words, in the eyes of many of the mds there, *you* will be the expert, even if you don't feel like it. if that makes you uncomfortable, personally, i fall back on what i know and try not to speculate on what i do not. one of the most eye-opening experiences i have had in grad school was at a conference outside of my major domain of study. i went with my advisor and two other faculty--each are very respected in their domains. during a particular session, i felt like an idiot because i just could not understand what was being presented. after the session, all four of us got together and they all felt the same way. the moral of the story being that it's okay not to know everything and everything, there is *always* more to learn. the main purpose for virtually all conferences is to share your knowledge with others. if we already knew everything going it, these conferences would just be an expensive, multi-day happy hour.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: remember that you know more about your own research than anyone else, and it is worth sharing. it does seem that imposter syndrome never goes away, though. i just started a postdoc and boy is it hitting me hard.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: this letter written by nobel laureate richard feynman is always my go-to when trying to combat imposture syndrome myself. all these mds at your conference are people, too. they are not omnipotent beings! plus, from what i gather about mds, many of them are somewhat out-of-touch with cutting edge research (particularly outside their specialty). in other words, in the eyes of many of the mds there, *you* will be the expert, even if you don't feel like it. if that makes you uncomfortable, personally, i fall back on what i know and try not to speculate on what i do not. one of the most eye-opening experiences i have had in grad school was at a conference outside of my major domain of study. i went with my advisor and two other faculty--each are very respected in their domains. during a particular session, i felt like an idiot because i just could not understand what was being presented. after the session, all four of us got together and they all felt the same way. the moral of the story being that it's okay not to know everything and everything, there is *always* more to learn. the main purpose for virtually all conferences is to share your knowledge with others. if we already knew everything going it, these conferences would just be an expensive, multi-day happy hour.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: it helped me when i realised that my professors didn't know everything. even when they seemed to have an answer for everything, eventually i realised just how often they were bluffing a bit. made me feel like it's ok not to know everything, or that there's strength in admitting "i'm not sure, but i can look it up/ ask someone who would know/ point you in the right direction"
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: i wholeheartedly empathize. i am nearing the end of my phd, several papers published, and i am still convinced my pi is going to figure out that i'm a fraud and i was just lucky the whole time. it doesn't get much better, but you do gain direct experiences that help squash the feelings (i have a paper published! i presented at a big conference! this scientist i admire didn't rip me a new one during q & a! etc). good luck at your conference; you're going to do great! eta: also, later in your career, getting a new person you can mentor yourself is a big confidence boost, especially when you can answer their questions/assist them in their studies/etc.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: i have a theory that imposter syndrome is closely related to your cultural background, and the kind of representation that academics had in art during your formative years.
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: two things i learned in school and the workforce really helped me out. 1.) a professor telling me to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. 2.) a supervisor telling me that science is a process, and a team effort, and that i needed to accept that i would make mistakes, and my team would help me fix them. i've learned that just accepting that i may not be comfortable doing something, whether because i don't think i can do it, or am qualified to do it, leads to me learning far more than only doing that which i know i can do well. or, as ms. frizzle would say, "take chances, make mistakes, get messy!"
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: it helped me when i realised that my professors didn't know everything. even when they seemed to have an answer for everything, eventually i realised just how often they were bluffing a bit. made me feel like it's ok not to know everything, or that there's strength in admitting "i'm not sure, but i can look it up/ ask someone who would know/ point you in the right direction"
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: two things i learned in school and the workforce really helped me out. 1.) a professor telling me to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. 2.) a supervisor telling me that science is a process, and a team effort, and that i needed to accept that i would make mistakes, and my team would help me fix them. i've learned that just accepting that i may not be comfortable doing something, whether because i don't think i can do it, or am qualified to do it, leads to me learning far more than only doing that which i know i can do well. or, as ms. frizzle would say, "take chances, make mistakes, get messy!"
user: imposter syndrome is a blast can we talk about imposter syndrome and navigating academia in stem as a young woman? i feel drastically under-qualified doing nearly everything my mentors encourage me to do. i do the things anyway, but the discomfort doesn't seem to dissipate the further i get. ​ but also, i am a second year grad student, highest degree ba, presenting at a medical conference in november, presenting among all other mds. how the fuck am i supposed to feel about this d: bot: not in the same stem field but i felt like i just read something i wrote. it fucking sucks man!!! sending ya love and encouragement!!
user: left off of author list update] [original comment in my last post i told a little tale of being left off of a publication recently that involved several years of my life during the beginning of my phd. people offered a variety of perspectives and opinions about how to proceed, which was super helpful and thank you all for taking the time. here's a quick update - the committee member who left me off of the author list reached out to me to inform me that the paper had been published. i didn't immediately respond, and instead i consulted with a few folks involved in the paper to determine if i was somehow missing something that i had done or not done and it seemed like they were more or less sympathetic and on my side. and of course, i posted on reddit, because why not get the opinion of internet strangers - most people had suggested keeping things diplomatic and investigating authorship corrections with the journal. a week or so passes before the committee member reaches out to me again to see if i want to chat (i think spurred by my primary advisor) and we end up finding each other in the hallway. we chat for about half an hour outside where i lay out my reaction and she promises it was an honest mistake and that there was absolutely no malice or politics involved. she was working as hard as i was to keep things diplomatic and to keep bridges unburned, there was a hug involved, which i appreciate, so i took what she said at face value. she apologizes and accepts blame, which is heartening except that she views the additional steps to be limited (basically, "move on and sorry!"). i bring up that author corrections are a thing (thanks for the suggestion askaca!!) and she seems very doubtful, but willing to explore the possibility... the least she can do to make things up is to have my back in exploring the idea. fast-forward a month or two and she has reached out to the other lab group and the main author has taken the lead on contacting the journal to initiate a correction. every author eventually agrees in writing and now things are 100% copacetic, i'm on the author list! so basically long story short, things turned out well after a few hard conversations. just wanted to write a quick update and thank everyone for offering some opinions and perspectives. i'm honestly shocked and disappointed that not a single person in my department thought that author corrections were possible, so now i can tell my advisor that my reddit addiction has had a tangible positive impact on my career. bot: /r/wholesomeacademia
user: left off of author list update] [original comment in my last post i told a little tale of being left off of a publication recently that involved several years of my life during the beginning of my phd. people offered a variety of perspectives and opinions about how to proceed, which was super helpful and thank you all for taking the time. here's a quick update - the committee member who left me off of the author list reached out to me to inform me that the paper had been published. i didn't immediately respond, and instead i consulted with a few folks involved in the paper to determine if i was somehow missing something that i had done or not done and it seemed like they were more or less sympathetic and on my side. and of course, i posted on reddit, because why not get the opinion of internet strangers - most people had suggested keeping things diplomatic and investigating authorship corrections with the journal. a week or so passes before the committee member reaches out to me again to see if i want to chat (i think spurred by my primary advisor) and we end up finding each other in the hallway. we chat for about half an hour outside where i lay out my reaction and she promises it was an honest mistake and that there was absolutely no malice or politics involved. she was working as hard as i was to keep things diplomatic and to keep bridges unburned, there was a hug involved, which i appreciate, so i took what she said at face value. she apologizes and accepts blame, which is heartening except that she views the additional steps to be limited (basically, "move on and sorry!"). i bring up that author corrections are a thing (thanks for the suggestion askaca!!) and she seems very doubtful, but willing to explore the possibility... the least she can do to make things up is to have my back in exploring the idea. fast-forward a month or two and she has reached out to the other lab group and the main author has taken the lead on contacting the journal to initiate a correction. every author eventually agrees in writing and now things are 100% copacetic, i'm on the author list! so basically long story short, things turned out well after a few hard conversations. just wanted to write a quick update and thank everyone for offering some opinions and perspectives. i'm honestly shocked and disappointed that not a single person in my department thought that author corrections were possible, so now i can tell my advisor that my reddit addiction has had a tangible positive impact on my career. bot: congratulations! you got what you deserved. this made my day
user: left off of author list update] [original comment in my last post i told a little tale of being left off of a publication recently that involved several years of my life during the beginning of my phd. people offered a variety of perspectives and opinions about how to proceed, which was super helpful and thank you all for taking the time. here's a quick update - the committee member who left me off of the author list reached out to me to inform me that the paper had been published. i didn't immediately respond, and instead i consulted with a few folks involved in the paper to determine if i was somehow missing something that i had done or not done and it seemed like they were more or less sympathetic and on my side. and of course, i posted on reddit, because why not get the opinion of internet strangers - most people had suggested keeping things diplomatic and investigating authorship corrections with the journal. a week or so passes before the committee member reaches out to me again to see if i want to chat (i think spurred by my primary advisor) and we end up finding each other in the hallway. we chat for about half an hour outside where i lay out my reaction and she promises it was an honest mistake and that there was absolutely no malice or politics involved. she was working as hard as i was to keep things diplomatic and to keep bridges unburned, there was a hug involved, which i appreciate, so i took what she said at face value. she apologizes and accepts blame, which is heartening except that she views the additional steps to be limited (basically, "move on and sorry!"). i bring up that author corrections are a thing (thanks for the suggestion askaca!!) and she seems very doubtful, but willing to explore the possibility... the least she can do to make things up is to have my back in exploring the idea. fast-forward a month or two and she has reached out to the other lab group and the main author has taken the lead on contacting the journal to initiate a correction. every author eventually agrees in writing and now things are 100% copacetic, i'm on the author list! so basically long story short, things turned out well after a few hard conversations. just wanted to write a quick update and thank everyone for offering some opinions and perspectives. i'm honestly shocked and disappointed that not a single person in my department thought that author corrections were possible, so now i can tell my advisor that my reddit addiction has had a tangible positive impact on my career. bot: /r/wholesomeacademia
user: left off of author list update] [original comment in my last post i told a little tale of being left off of a publication recently that involved several years of my life during the beginning of my phd. people offered a variety of perspectives and opinions about how to proceed, which was super helpful and thank you all for taking the time. here's a quick update - the committee member who left me off of the author list reached out to me to inform me that the paper had been published. i didn't immediately respond, and instead i consulted with a few folks involved in the paper to determine if i was somehow missing something that i had done or not done and it seemed like they were more or less sympathetic and on my side. and of course, i posted on reddit, because why not get the opinion of internet strangers - most people had suggested keeping things diplomatic and investigating authorship corrections with the journal. a week or so passes before the committee member reaches out to me again to see if i want to chat (i think spurred by my primary advisor) and we end up finding each other in the hallway. we chat for about half an hour outside where i lay out my reaction and she promises it was an honest mistake and that there was absolutely no malice or politics involved. she was working as hard as i was to keep things diplomatic and to keep bridges unburned, there was a hug involved, which i appreciate, so i took what she said at face value. she apologizes and accepts blame, which is heartening except that she views the additional steps to be limited (basically, "move on and sorry!"). i bring up that author corrections are a thing (thanks for the suggestion askaca!!) and she seems very doubtful, but willing to explore the possibility... the least she can do to make things up is to have my back in exploring the idea. fast-forward a month or two and she has reached out to the other lab group and the main author has taken the lead on contacting the journal to initiate a correction. every author eventually agrees in writing and now things are 100% copacetic, i'm on the author list! so basically long story short, things turned out well after a few hard conversations. just wanted to write a quick update and thank everyone for offering some opinions and perspectives. i'm honestly shocked and disappointed that not a single person in my department thought that author corrections were possible, so now i can tell my advisor that my reddit addiction has had a tangible positive impact on my career. bot: thank you for sharing this experience, and it's fantastic that things worked out for you!
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: nothing. i let the justice system work its course.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i have no advisor experience but to give my opinion, i think our current society tends to equate accused with guilty. it's easy to completely shut down someone's life over just accusations. being arrested in this case will likely lead to a very long trial process. i don't know the logistics behind putting a hold on a phd process for months if not years. it may be ultimately the only option you have to cut ties, and it may not be your decision but the school's. my personal opinion is to provide every option reasonably possible to give the accused person their fair day in court. if they are found not guilty then you/the school have essentially ruined this person's academic career due to an unproven accusation if ties are cut.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: people in charge in a university (or company) only need to make sure that nobody is unsafe. they are not there to administer justice or order punitive measures. as this person has been arrested, there is nothing to do.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i have no advisor experience but to give my opinion, i think our current society tends to equate accused with guilty. it's easy to completely shut down someone's life over just accusations. being arrested in this case will likely lead to a very long trial process. i don't know the logistics behind putting a hold on a phd process for months if not years. it may be ultimately the only option you have to cut ties, and it may not be your decision but the school's. my personal opinion is to provide every option reasonably possible to give the accused person their fair day in court. if they are found not guilty then you/the school have essentially ruined this person's academic career due to an unproven accusation if ties are cut.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: you do nothing. innocent until proven guilty but if a student is facing such serious charges, it’s doubtful they will be enrolled for the semester, it’s unlikely they will have time or resources to work on a dissertation, and it’s not your responsibility to determine guilt or innocence.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: none of my phd students have been accused of murder, as far as i know, but i would definitely ask the higher-ups for "advice" (i.e. unload the responsibility onto those who are paid to carry it). my own reflex would be to keep advising.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: you do nothing. innocent until proven guilty but if a student is facing such serious charges, it’s doubtful they will be enrolled for the semester, it’s unlikely they will have time or resources to work on a dissertation, and it’s not your responsibility to determine guilt or innocence.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i have no advisor experience but to give my opinion, i think our current society tends to equate accused with guilty. it's easy to completely shut down someone's life over just accusations. being arrested in this case will likely lead to a very long trial process. i don't know the logistics behind putting a hold on a phd process for months if not years. it may be ultimately the only option you have to cut ties, and it may not be your decision but the school's. my personal opinion is to provide every option reasonably possible to give the accused person their fair day in court. if they are found not guilty then you/the school have essentially ruined this person's academic career due to an unproven accusation if ties are cut.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: you do nothing. innocent until proven guilty but if a student is facing such serious charges, it’s doubtful they will be enrolled for the semester, it’s unlikely they will have time or resources to work on a dissertation, and it’s not your responsibility to determine guilt or innocence.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: speak to my head of school, probably niversity legal and consider getting my own lawyer for the inevitable police interviews that will come.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: very cynical viewpoint here, but this question feels like a murdoch journo fishing. if it's not, honest apologies. personally, i would refer or let the whole thing slide into the uni's legal/compliance/,code of conduct area and keep working.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: none of my phd students have been accused of murder, as far as i know, but i would definitely ask the higher-ups for "advice" (i.e. unload the responsibility onto those who are paid to carry it). my own reflex would be to keep advising.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: very cynical viewpoint here, but this question feels like a murdoch journo fishing. if it's not, honest apologies. personally, i would refer or let the whole thing slide into the uni's legal/compliance/,code of conduct area and keep working.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i have no advisor experience but to give my opinion, i think our current society tends to equate accused with guilty. it's easy to completely shut down someone's life over just accusations. being arrested in this case will likely lead to a very long trial process. i don't know the logistics behind putting a hold on a phd process for months if not years. it may be ultimately the only option you have to cut ties, and it may not be your decision but the school's. my personal opinion is to provide every option reasonably possible to give the accused person their fair day in court. if they are found not guilty then you/the school have essentially ruined this person's academic career due to an unproven accusation if ties are cut.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: member of my lab was arrested for a serious violent crime. the university asked all to go no contact and then suspended their enrollment until trial. they were found guilty and then permanently banned. years later they tried to get a masters as they were published and only a year or so from getting phd. their lawyer asked pi for a statement about their strong academic progress . the university said to maintain no contact. i assume it was settled out of court but i don't know more than that. don't think they got their consilitory masters. if it were me, and i had a chance to talk with them, pre trial i would say that i was under instructions not to communicate until trial was over but that i hoped they didn't do what they were accused of. edit at 100 upvotes. 1. i was a rotating new grad student when this went down. 2. the crime was repeatedly threatening women that were jogging with a bat and demanding they give him their underwear. 3. the police setup a sting with undercover cops to catch him. 4. i got his desk and bench. lab probably wouldn't have taken me that year without this happening.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: none of my phd students have been accused of murder, as far as i know, but i would definitely ask the higher-ups for "advice" (i.e. unload the responsibility onto those who are paid to carry it). my own reflex would be to keep advising.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: member of my lab was arrested for a serious violent crime. the university asked all to go no contact and then suspended their enrollment until trial. they were found guilty and then permanently banned. years later they tried to get a masters as they were published and only a year or so from getting phd. their lawyer asked pi for a statement about their strong academic progress . the university said to maintain no contact. i assume it was settled out of court but i don't know more than that. don't think they got their consilitory masters. if it were me, and i had a chance to talk with them, pre trial i would say that i was under instructions not to communicate until trial was over but that i hoped they didn't do what they were accused of. edit at 100 upvotes. 1. i was a rotating new grad student when this went down. 2. the crime was repeatedly threatening women that were jogging with a bat and demanding they give him their underwear. 3. the police setup a sting with undercover cops to catch him. 4. i got his desk and bench. lab probably wouldn't have taken me that year without this happening.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i have no advisor experience but to give my opinion, i think our current society tends to equate accused with guilty. it's easy to completely shut down someone's life over just accusations. being arrested in this case will likely lead to a very long trial process. i don't know the logistics behind putting a hold on a phd process for months if not years. it may be ultimately the only option you have to cut ties, and it may not be your decision but the school's. my personal opinion is to provide every option reasonably possible to give the accused person their fair day in court. if they are found not guilty then you/the school have essentially ruined this person's academic career due to an unproven accusation if ties are cut.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: member of my lab was arrested for a serious violent crime. the university asked all to go no contact and then suspended their enrollment until trial. they were found guilty and then permanently banned. years later they tried to get a masters as they were published and only a year or so from getting phd. their lawyer asked pi for a statement about their strong academic progress . the university said to maintain no contact. i assume it was settled out of court but i don't know more than that. don't think they got their consilitory masters. if it were me, and i had a chance to talk with them, pre trial i would say that i was under instructions not to communicate until trial was over but that i hoped they didn't do what they were accused of. edit at 100 upvotes. 1. i was a rotating new grad student when this went down. 2. the crime was repeatedly threatening women that were jogging with a bat and demanding they give him their underwear. 3. the police setup a sting with undercover cops to catch him. 4. i got his desk and bench. lab probably wouldn't have taken me that year without this happening.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: speak to my head of school, probably niversity legal and consider getting my own lawyer for the inevitable police interviews that will come.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: no comment any media questions, make department head and hierachy aware and let them handle communication with legal, compliance, i assume it'd be escalated to the top. if the police want to question me then ask university legal if they can offer support. if i were in a union that might support this kind of thing maybe make them aware of the situation. don't proactively mention to students or at-level staff unless it becomes a generally known thing where gossip needs to be quietened, even then be discreet, maybe acknowledge something but not comment on it.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: none of my phd students have been accused of murder, as far as i know, but i would definitely ask the higher-ups for "advice" (i.e. unload the responsibility onto those who are paid to carry it). my own reflex would be to keep advising.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: no comment any media questions, make department head and hierachy aware and let them handle communication with legal, compliance, i assume it'd be escalated to the top. if the police want to question me then ask university legal if they can offer support. if i were in a union that might support this kind of thing maybe make them aware of the situation. don't proactively mention to students or at-level staff unless it becomes a generally known thing where gossip needs to be quietened, even then be discreet, maybe acknowledge something but not comment on it.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i have no advisor experience but to give my opinion, i think our current society tends to equate accused with guilty. it's easy to completely shut down someone's life over just accusations. being arrested in this case will likely lead to a very long trial process. i don't know the logistics behind putting a hold on a phd process for months if not years. it may be ultimately the only option you have to cut ties, and it may not be your decision but the school's. my personal opinion is to provide every option reasonably possible to give the accused person their fair day in court. if they are found not guilty then you/the school have essentially ruined this person's academic career due to an unproven accusation if ties are cut.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: no comment any media questions, make department head and hierachy aware and let them handle communication with legal, compliance, i assume it'd be escalated to the top. if the police want to question me then ask university legal if they can offer support. if i were in a union that might support this kind of thing maybe make them aware of the situation. don't proactively mention to students or at-level staff unless it becomes a generally known thing where gossip needs to be quietened, even then be discreet, maybe acknowledge something but not comment on it.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: speak to my head of school, probably niversity legal and consider getting my own lawyer for the inevitable police interviews that will come.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i doubt that the phd advisor will be making any decisions. it'll be the university who will decide on a course of action. so... i would contact my bosses and ask them to tell me what i am supposed to do.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i have no advisor experience but to give my opinion, i think our current society tends to equate accused with guilty. it's easy to completely shut down someone's life over just accusations. being arrested in this case will likely lead to a very long trial process. i don't know the logistics behind putting a hold on a phd process for months if not years. it may be ultimately the only option you have to cut ties, and it may not be your decision but the school's. my personal opinion is to provide every option reasonably possible to give the accused person their fair day in court. if they are found not guilty then you/the school have essentially ruined this person's academic career due to an unproven accusation if ties are cut.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: slight tangent, but a guy in norway recently completed a phd while in prison for murder. the topic was his own crime, that part did stir up some controversy, but studying and completing a degree while in prison in itself didn’t cause any outrage. (couldn’t find any news about it english (although i didn’t try very hard), and the dissertation was written in norwegian, unfortunately, but the guy’s name is andreas ribe-nyhus if anyone’s curious and wants to spend more that three seconds looking for something in english)
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: speak to my head of school, probably niversity legal and consider getting my own lawyer for the inevitable police interviews that will come.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i've been thinking about her. that's got to be traumatic, realizing that you've been working closely with *possibly* one of the most infamous mass murderers in history. (talk about research is mesearch.) it would be hard to trust another student. i hope she gets past this, possibly with the help of a therapist, and has a long and fulfilling career.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i'd be looking for a new student to do the work, at least.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i've been thinking about her. that's got to be traumatic, realizing that you've been working closely with *possibly* one of the most infamous mass murderers in history. (talk about research is mesearch.) it would be hard to trust another student. i hope she gets past this, possibly with the help of a therapist, and has a long and fulfilling career.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i suspect the authorities would want to talk to you as they piece together a profile on this person. you should call them. \*waves from eastern oregon\*
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i know of a phd student who was arrested (and then convicted) of some similarly shocking crimes. their papers still exist, but their old research group has essentially expunged all other records of their association with them. the only way i ever learned about this was from the news, it seems to be taboo to even mention them now.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i'd be looking for a new student to do the work, at least.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i know of a phd student who was arrested (and then convicted) of some similarly shocking crimes. their papers still exist, but their old research group has essentially expunged all other records of their association with them. the only way i ever learned about this was from the news, it seems to be taboo to even mention them now.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i suspect the authorities would want to talk to you as they piece together a profile on this person. you should call them. \*waves from eastern oregon\*
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: if you want to see how this potentially plays out, look into riley gaul, the undergraduate student from knoxville, tn who murdered his ex-girlfriend back in 2016. the college initially expelled him, but then reinstated him as a student for the sole purpose of being able to cooperate with authorities.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i'd be looking for a new student to do the work, at least.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: if you want to see how this potentially plays out, look into riley gaul, the undergraduate student from knoxville, tn who murdered his ex-girlfriend back in 2016. the college initially expelled him, but then reinstated him as a student for the sole purpose of being able to cooperate with authorities.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i suspect the authorities would want to talk to you as they piece together a profile on this person. you should call them. \*waves from eastern oregon\*
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: if you want to see how this potentially plays out, look into riley gaul, the undergraduate student from knoxville, tn who murdered his ex-girlfriend back in 2016. the college initially expelled him, but then reinstated him as a student for the sole purpose of being able to cooperate with authorities.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: yeah, i would agree not much to do. if he’s enrolled in any courses that don’t have a winter break, then facilitate an incomplete until a verdict is found. place the rest of the degree plan on hold. ensure they follow whatever “no contact” or other policies enacted by the university. send any other students that come forward to university wellness if they request or seem emotionally impacted by the arrest/accusations.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: if you want to see how this potentially plays out, look into riley gaul, the undergraduate student from knoxville, tn who murdered his ex-girlfriend back in 2016. the college initially expelled him, but then reinstated him as a student for the sole purpose of being able to cooperate with authorities.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i'd talk to the university and get some advice.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: the moral thing to do is await justice, the realistic thing that will happen is immediately cutting all ties.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i'd be looking for a new student to do the work, at least.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: the moral thing to do is await justice, the realistic thing that will happen is immediately cutting all ties.
user: you're the advisor to a phd student who has been arrested on 4 counts of 1st degree murder. what do you do? i'm obviously referring to the suspect that has been arrested on felony charges in the idaho murders, while a phd student in criminology. was thinking about his advisor and what do you do in such cases, innocent until proven guilty and all that. bot: i suspect the authorities would want to talk to you as they piece together a profile on this person. you should call them. \*waves from eastern oregon\*
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: people asking for pdfs articles of mine makes my day - it's honestly the opposite of rude but do be patient. you'll either get a reply immediately or in three weeks.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: it's not rude, and you don't pay. this is a normal thing to ask for, go for it!
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: people asking for pdfs articles of mine makes my day - it's honestly the opposite of rude but do be patient. you'll either get a reply immediately or in three weeks.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: yep. if anything they’ll be happy that someone is interested enough to seek it out. besides, they’re not seeing any of the money that goes to the journals, so it’s not like it affects them financially in the slightest.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: people asking for pdfs articles of mine makes my day - it's honestly the opposite of rude but do be patient. you'll either get a reply immediately or in three weeks.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: this is a thing, yes.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: people asking for pdfs articles of mine makes my day - it's honestly the opposite of rude but do be patient. you'll either get a reply immediately or in three weeks.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: you can often request articles for free through interlibrary loan at your institution’s library.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: people asking for pdfs articles of mine makes my day - it's honestly the opposite of rude but do be patient. you'll either get a reply immediately or in three weeks.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: if you ask the subject librarian of your university library they can often help you find the article.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: not rude at all and very common. none of the (ridiculously huge) money you pay for the article goes to the author. also try searching for the article title in quotes on both google and google scholar. there might already be a free pdf available on the web.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: this is a thing, yes.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: it's not rude, and you don't pay. this is a normal thing to ask for, go for it!
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: this is a thing, yes.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: yep. if anything they’ll be happy that someone is interested enough to seek it out. besides, they’re not seeing any of the money that goes to the journals, so it’s not like it affects them financially in the slightest.
user: is it ok to email the author of a journal article to ask for the article? i'm doing a literature review and am very interested in her article. however, my institution doesn't have a subscription to the publisher of her article. is it considered rude to ask for the article for free and it's expected that i pay for the article on my own (i'm only an undergrad, so i have very little money at my disposal)? thank you! bot: this is a thing, yes.