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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
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Chapter length is a preference, and longer or shorter chapters have their own benefits and hazards. In my mind, the only thing that matters is consistency. Plus, a lot of writers tend to underestimate the length of their story when they're writing in a word processor, like Word or Docs. There, you're writing on 8.5×11 printer paper, whereas your book will most likely be some much smaller paperback if published. There's a difference you have to split when estimating length, there.
Be more descriptive! Describe what a character sees, feels, thinks even if they can't tell what it is themselves. Describe tastes, smells everything you can add as a description adds character to the story. Don't overdo it, after a certain point it can become boring for some but it is one way to lengthen your chapters, I do however think length isn't as important as you think it is ,don't limit yourself in a mere amount of words!!
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
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Be more descriptive! Describe what a character sees, feels, thinks even if they can't tell what it is themselves. Describe tastes, smells everything you can add as a description adds character to the story. Don't overdo it, after a certain point it can become boring for some but it is one way to lengthen your chapters, I do however think length isn't as important as you think it is ,don't limit yourself in a mere amount of words!!
Says who?
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
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Remove chapters and call it aesthetic -capote -mccarthy
Chapter length is a preference, and longer or shorter chapters have their own benefits and hazards. In my mind, the only thing that matters is consistency. Plus, a lot of writers tend to underestimate the length of their story when they're writing in a word processor, like Word or Docs. There, you're writing on 8.5×11 printer paper, whereas your book will most likely be some much smaller paperback if published. There's a difference you have to split when estimating length, there.
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i15q055
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Remove chapters and call it aesthetic -capote -mccarthy
Says who?
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tgeqtj
writing_train
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
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Chapter length is a preference, and longer or shorter chapters have their own benefits and hazards. In my mind, the only thing that matters is consistency. Plus, a lot of writers tend to underestimate the length of their story when they're writing in a word processor, like Word or Docs. There, you're writing on 8.5×11 printer paper, whereas your book will most likely be some much smaller paperback if published. There's a difference you have to split when estimating length, there.
I’ll give you parts of mine. Right now I’m averaging about 1,000 words too many.
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i15tr41
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I’ll give you parts of mine. Right now I’m averaging about 1,000 words too many.
Says who?
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tgeqtj
writing_train
0.89
My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i125bmx
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Chapter length is a preference, and longer or shorter chapters have their own benefits and hazards. In my mind, the only thing that matters is consistency. Plus, a lot of writers tend to underestimate the length of their story when they're writing in a word processor, like Word or Docs. There, you're writing on 8.5×11 printer paper, whereas your book will most likely be some much smaller paperback if published. There's a difference you have to split when estimating length, there.
James Patterson does short chapters in a lot of his books. In his PRIVATE series, they can be just a few pages sometimes
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i13yx6d
i162xje
1,647,574,158
1,647,619,793
1
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Says who?
James Patterson does short chapters in a lot of his books. In his PRIVATE series, they can be just a few pages sometimes
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tgeqtj
writing_train
0.89
My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i125bmx
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Chapter length is a preference, and longer or shorter chapters have their own benefits and hazards. In my mind, the only thing that matters is consistency. Plus, a lot of writers tend to underestimate the length of their story when they're writing in a word processor, like Word or Docs. There, you're writing on 8.5×11 printer paper, whereas your book will most likely be some much smaller paperback if published. There's a difference you have to split when estimating length, there.
I just read my sister the serial killer and it has multiple page-long chapters. The writing’s succinct and it’s a lauded work.
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i13yx6d
i167362
1,647,574,158
1,647,621,387
1
2
Says who?
I just read my sister the serial killer and it has multiple page-long chapters. The writing’s succinct and it’s a lauded work.
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tgeqtj
writing_train
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i125bmx
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Chapter length is a preference, and longer or shorter chapters have their own benefits and hazards. In my mind, the only thing that matters is consistency. Plus, a lot of writers tend to underestimate the length of their story when they're writing in a word processor, like Word or Docs. There, you're writing on 8.5×11 printer paper, whereas your book will most likely be some much smaller paperback if published. There's a difference you have to split when estimating length, there.
My chapters are too long compared to those that published books has. I don’t think it is a problem since I need to tell a lot of things in a chapter. You shouldn’t be afraid of this. You feel when a chapter is not long enough or is way longer than it should be. Overwrite or less words… Don’t matter, when you re-read it you’ll know if it’s too much or misses some words. Don’t worry about long or short chapters. How long chapters you need depends on what your story requires.
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
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My chapters are too long compared to those that published books has. I don’t think it is a problem since I need to tell a lot of things in a chapter. You shouldn’t be afraid of this. You feel when a chapter is not long enough or is way longer than it should be. Overwrite or less words… Don’t matter, when you re-read it you’ll know if it’s too much or misses some words. Don’t worry about long or short chapters. How long chapters you need depends on what your story requires.
Says who?
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tgeqtj
writing_train
0.89
My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i125bmx
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Chapter length is a preference, and longer or shorter chapters have their own benefits and hazards. In my mind, the only thing that matters is consistency. Plus, a lot of writers tend to underestimate the length of their story when they're writing in a word processor, like Word or Docs. There, you're writing on 8.5×11 printer paper, whereas your book will most likely be some much smaller paperback if published. There's a difference you have to split when estimating length, there.
Maybe some of these are not chapters but only scene breaks? I wrote a novella with a lot of character POV’s (six characters) and switched chapters every time I jumped time or location. Except the battles. (It’s fantasy). The battles have people split up all over the field, but it’s all tiny action sequences. So the had to be grouped into one long chapter with only line breaks between mini-pov’s.
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i13yx6d
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Says who?
Maybe some of these are not chapters but only scene breaks? I wrote a novella with a lot of character POV’s (six characters) and switched chapters every time I jumped time or location. Except the battles. (It’s fantasy). The battles have people split up all over the field, but it’s all tiny action sequences. So the had to be grouped into one long chapter with only line breaks between mini-pov’s.
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i125bmx
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Chapter length is a preference, and longer or shorter chapters have their own benefits and hazards. In my mind, the only thing that matters is consistency. Plus, a lot of writers tend to underestimate the length of their story when they're writing in a word processor, like Word or Docs. There, you're writing on 8.5×11 printer paper, whereas your book will most likely be some much smaller paperback if published. There's a difference you have to split when estimating length, there.
Chapters vary in length. Hitchhikers guide to galaxy sometimes have like 1-2 page chapters while Witcher sometimes has 50+ page chapters
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tgeqtj
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My chapters are too short I have been having a problem with my stories. When I look back to actual published books, the chapters are written much longer than mine. I don't have an example right now, but maybe there are a few tips to make a chapter longer and keep it interesting. It would be really nice to get someone's advice on this.
i13yx6d
i16ps7z
1,647,574,158
1,647,628,725
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Says who?
Chapters vary in length. Hitchhikers guide to galaxy sometimes have like 1-2 page chapters while Witcher sometimes has 50+ page chapters
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
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I have the same issue. My 1st chapter is a bit like a preamble for the story, the first real action is in next chapter. I still haven't figured out what to do. My chapters are split by days (like acts), then by scene for a long day, and the largest scene is split in two parts (I prepare it for a webnovel). It's a fast pace story more like a play sometime. I don't want to add fillers in short chapters. I don't like merging two chapters of different days, it's not logic in regards to the structure of the novel. For the moment I keep the short chapter, this isn't such a big deal. The webnovel episodes will have 1 or 2 chapters.
Patrick Rothfus has a one sentence chapter in his book ... Silent Things
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
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Well what are you using chapters for? If you’re using them to move the pov from character to character and you’re worried you’re not spending enough time with a certain POV, I’d go back and re-read the chapter and try to figure out everything you want to see from that character’s point of view. If you’ve described everything you wanted to convey in terms you’re happy with, then it’s fine, short or not. If it’s a stylistic choice or a matter of wanting things to be consistent, and all your other chapters are consistently 3k-5k and this one’s, say, 736 words long, I’d probably just rearrange the chapters around this one. Maybe push a minor event back or forward a bit so that it can happen during the chapter you’re worried about.
I have the same issue. My 1st chapter is a bit like a preamble for the story, the first real action is in next chapter. I still haven't figured out what to do. My chapters are split by days (like acts), then by scene for a long day, and the largest scene is split in two parts (I prepare it for a webnovel). It's a fast pace story more like a play sometime. I don't want to add fillers in short chapters. I don't like merging two chapters of different days, it's not logic in regards to the structure of the novel. For the moment I keep the short chapter, this isn't such a big deal. The webnovel episodes will have 1 or 2 chapters.
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
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I have the same issue. My 1st chapter is a bit like a preamble for the story, the first real action is in next chapter. I still haven't figured out what to do. My chapters are split by days (like acts), then by scene for a long day, and the largest scene is split in two parts (I prepare it for a webnovel). It's a fast pace story more like a play sometime. I don't want to add fillers in short chapters. I don't like merging two chapters of different days, it's not logic in regards to the structure of the novel. For the moment I keep the short chapter, this isn't such a big deal. The webnovel episodes will have 1 or 2 chapters.
Chapters can be any length, so it's never too short in that regard. But if you feel it should be longer, I'd suggest leaving it for now. Write later chapters. And come back later to add flavor to that chapter. Add foreshadowing in the short chapter for things that will happen later. Add in some more details if it makes sense. Do your characters need more opposition for that chapter? They can encounter a hurdle. Even just a small setback will add to the length and give a little more time for character or plot growth.
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
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I have the same issue. My 1st chapter is a bit like a preamble for the story, the first real action is in next chapter. I still haven't figured out what to do. My chapters are split by days (like acts), then by scene for a long day, and the largest scene is split in two parts (I prepare it for a webnovel). It's a fast pace story more like a play sometime. I don't want to add fillers in short chapters. I don't like merging two chapters of different days, it's not logic in regards to the structure of the novel. For the moment I keep the short chapter, this isn't such a big deal. The webnovel episodes will have 1 or 2 chapters.
There is no such thing as a "too short" chapter as long as you are conveying everything you want to convey in that chapter. And, imho, you should vary your chapter lengths anyway. No need for all your chapters to be the same length, as variety makes for better readability.
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
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Either combine it with another chapter or leave it as is. Sometimes a short chapter needs to stay short if not many relevant things happen but still need to be shown to readers. Take the pacing into consideration and how it impacts the story to decide what to do with it.
There is no such thing as a "too short" chapter as long as you are conveying everything you want to convey in that chapter. And, imho, you should vary your chapter lengths anyway. No need for all your chapters to be the same length, as variety makes for better readability.
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Add more words
There is no formula for a perfect chapter length. There are recommendations. And genre can change the recommendations. However the length is just what the story needs for it to be.
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
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There is no formula for a perfect chapter length. There are recommendations. And genre can change the recommendations. However the length is just what the story needs for it to be.
I have the same issue. My 1st chapter is a bit like a preamble for the story, the first real action is in next chapter. I still haven't figured out what to do. My chapters are split by days (like acts), then by scene for a long day, and the largest scene is split in two parts (I prepare it for a webnovel). It's a fast pace story more like a play sometime. I don't want to add fillers in short chapters. I don't like merging two chapters of different days, it's not logic in regards to the structure of the novel. For the moment I keep the short chapter, this isn't such a big deal. The webnovel episodes will have 1 or 2 chapters.
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
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Either combine it with another chapter or leave it as is. Sometimes a short chapter needs to stay short if not many relevant things happen but still need to be shown to readers. Take the pacing into consideration and how it impacts the story to decide what to do with it.
There is no formula for a perfect chapter length. There are recommendations. And genre can change the recommendations. However the length is just what the story needs for it to be.
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
hlagvxp
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Add more words
I have the same issue. My 1st chapter is a bit like a preamble for the story, the first real action is in next chapter. I still haven't figured out what to do. My chapters are split by days (like acts), then by scene for a long day, and the largest scene is split in two parts (I prepare it for a webnovel). It's a fast pace story more like a play sometime. I don't want to add fillers in short chapters. I don't like merging two chapters of different days, it's not logic in regards to the structure of the novel. For the moment I keep the short chapter, this isn't such a big deal. The webnovel episodes will have 1 or 2 chapters.
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What to do when a chapter is too short? I'm a novice at writing and had a question. What do I do if a chapter is too short?
hlaawj3
hlagvxp
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1,637,348,917
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Either combine it with another chapter or leave it as is. Sometimes a short chapter needs to stay short if not many relevant things happen but still need to be shown to readers. Take the pacing into consideration and how it impacts the story to decide what to do with it.
Add more words
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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A chapter should serve a purpose, not to fulfill a word/page count. And why the NSFW?
First, start getting used to speaking in word counts not pages. Second, mine average 1500 words in one genre, 3000 words in another genre, and 5000 words in yet another genre. If your chapters are regularly over 10,000 words, that is a bit long, but not unheard of, especially in SFF.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Chapters are as long or short as you need them to be. Average tends to be around 3000-5000 (with some genres skewing longer or shorter) but it honestly doesn't matter. For example, in my WIP, I have one chapter that's 8500 words (I may break it up somewhere, but it covers a lot of ground for the climax, so I'll see how it flows on my next read through) Another chapter at the beginning of the same work is 2200 words. You can have them be whatever you want.
The length doesn't matter, but each chapter should have a point to it.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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The length doesn't matter, but each chapter should have a point to it.
Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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I write until the chapter is resolved, but that usually happens somewhere between 3000-5000 words
Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Just as long as it takes me to address the conflicts and plot points I wanted to in that chapter. The last two I wrote were a 6k word chapter and a 1300 word chapter, so it varies. I’d say on average like 3k ish words, however.
Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
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Chapters are as long or short as you need them to be. Average tends to be around 3000-5000 (with some genres skewing longer or shorter) but it honestly doesn't matter. For example, in my WIP, I have one chapter that's 8500 words (I may break it up somewhere, but it covers a lot of ground for the climax, so I'll see how it flows on my next read through) Another chapter at the beginning of the same work is 2200 words. You can have them be whatever you want.
Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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About 6k words which is usually between 15 and 22 pages double-spaced. It depends on how much dialogue I have in comparison to exposition. For example, my last chapter is heavy on dialogue, only 5.1k words and 18 pages.
Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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My chapters range from 3k to 8k words. I just stop the chapter when it feels like it's time to transition to a new moment or scene. Sometimes when it's time to do a POV change
Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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I'm currently writing YA with most chapters around 2-3k words, though I do have a 19-word chapter.
Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
It depends on what you want to use your chapters for—personally I could care less about them, but like many writers I’m also cognizant that readers need logical stopping points, some place where they can set the book down and return at their convenience. In that spirit, I try to keep chapters on the shortish size, a series of reading sprints rather than consecutive marathons.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
Pages mean nothing, words count is where it's at. A chapter serves the audience more than the story, genre or writer. Chapters break a big story into a smaller segment that the reader can "eat" in one sitting. This is approximate, of course, as no two readers are alike.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
Since people have been so technical about it, I’ll add a bit more nuance. Adding chapter breaks is as creative as anything else. A paragraph being a sentence of summation followed up by proofs is technical way of putting it. But in a larger creative writing sense, it’s almost a feel. The same can be said of chapters. The chapter itself can serve a purpose, a point you need to get across before giving the break. But the break itself can be the purpose. For example, thrillers love to end there chapters with cliff hangers. The content of the chapter therefore has much less purpose than just adding a break. A bestselling novel had a single word chapter: “Fuck.” So just feel it out. End the chapter when it’s supposed to end (in your opinion).
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Between 2k-8k words typically, depending on what's going on. So I'm basically echoing what's been said already. I wouldn't put a goal number down. You want some variance in length depending on the needs for different parts of the story. Short and tight for momentum, longer for reflection, but sometimes those rules are broken when you're building up to a singular event with a long chapter or simply switching between viewpoint characters with shorter chapters to slow down the story. It depends on what the goals are for each chapter.
I write until the chapter is resolved, but that usually happens somewhere between 3000-5000 words
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Chapters are as long or short as you need them to be. Average tends to be around 3000-5000 (with some genres skewing longer or shorter) but it honestly doesn't matter. For example, in my WIP, I have one chapter that's 8500 words (I may break it up somewhere, but it covers a lot of ground for the climax, so I'll see how it flows on my next read through) Another chapter at the beginning of the same work is 2200 words. You can have them be whatever you want.
Between 2k-8k words typically, depending on what's going on. So I'm basically echoing what's been said already. I wouldn't put a goal number down. You want some variance in length depending on the needs for different parts of the story. Short and tight for momentum, longer for reflection, but sometimes those rules are broken when you're building up to a singular event with a long chapter or simply switching between viewpoint characters with shorter chapters to slow down the story. It depends on what the goals are for each chapter.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
Between 2k-8k words typically, depending on what's going on. So I'm basically echoing what's been said already. I wouldn't put a goal number down. You want some variance in length depending on the needs for different parts of the story. Short and tight for momentum, longer for reflection, but sometimes those rules are broken when you're building up to a singular event with a long chapter or simply switching between viewpoint characters with shorter chapters to slow down the story. It depends on what the goals are for each chapter.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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I write until the chapter is resolved, but that usually happens somewhere between 3000-5000 words
Chapters are as long or short as you need them to be. Average tends to be around 3000-5000 (with some genres skewing longer or shorter) but it honestly doesn't matter. For example, in my WIP, I have one chapter that's 8500 words (I may break it up somewhere, but it covers a lot of ground for the climax, so I'll see how it flows on my next read through) Another chapter at the beginning of the same work is 2200 words. You can have them be whatever you want.
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Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
I write until the chapter is resolved, but that usually happens somewhere between 3000-5000 words
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Chapters are as long or short as you need them to be. Average tends to be around 3000-5000 (with some genres skewing longer or shorter) but it honestly doesn't matter. For example, in my WIP, I have one chapter that's 8500 words (I may break it up somewhere, but it covers a lot of ground for the climax, so I'll see how it flows on my next read through) Another chapter at the beginning of the same work is 2200 words. You can have them be whatever you want.
Just as long as it takes me to address the conflicts and plot points I wanted to in that chapter. The last two I wrote were a 6k word chapter and a 1300 word chapter, so it varies. I’d say on average like 3k ish words, however.
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Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
Just as long as it takes me to address the conflicts and plot points I wanted to in that chapter. The last two I wrote were a 6k word chapter and a 1300 word chapter, so it varies. I’d say on average like 3k ish words, however.
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Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
About 6k words which is usually between 15 and 22 pages double-spaced. It depends on how much dialogue I have in comparison to exposition. For example, my last chapter is heavy on dialogue, only 5.1k words and 18 pages.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
My chapters range from 3k to 8k words. I just stop the chapter when it feels like it's time to transition to a new moment or scene. Sometimes when it's time to do a POV change
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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I'm currently writing YA with most chapters around 2-3k words, though I do have a 19-word chapter.
Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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It depends on what you want to use your chapters for—personally I could care less about them, but like many writers I’m also cognizant that readers need logical stopping points, some place where they can set the book down and return at their convenience. In that spirit, I try to keep chapters on the shortish size, a series of reading sprints rather than consecutive marathons.
Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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Pages mean nothing, words count is where it's at. A chapter serves the audience more than the story, genre or writer. Chapters break a big story into a smaller segment that the reader can "eat" in one sitting. This is approximate, of course, as no two readers are alike.
Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
Usually shoot for between 2-3,000 words.
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As long as the chapter needs to be to tell the story of that chapter.
It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
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how long do you make your chapters? i've been working on a short book, but i'm used to writing long chapters, on avg 40+ pgs, so I would like to know, how long do you guys make your chapters in general?
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As long as they need to be. I've written chapters that were three paragraphs long. I've written chapters that were over twenty pages long (although that is definitely not something I do regularly). In the same book, sometimes. On average I make them maybe 2-5 pages, but it all depends. Side note: Why was this marked NSFW?
It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
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It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
My chapters can be anywhere between half a page to 10. I go based on scenes or situations. Having variance keeps my brain engaged.
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I try to keep it between 4-6k. But it shouldn't matter too much. Every chapter is like a short story, or an episode in a tv series.
It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
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Anymore, I shoot for 1000 - 1800 words. I want the reader to keep moving and not get bogged down
It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
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It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
No idea. I‘ve never set a timing before I write. My chapter is usually around 1,500 - 5,000 words, and I usually write the whole chapter in one go. Not sure how long it take. Two to three hours, perhaps? Time sure flies when you’re in the zone.
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It depends on what's going on in the chapter. I usually get 10-15 pages per chapter. It also depends on who your book is for. For younger readers, shorter chapters are better because they won't hold their attention as long. So 40+ pages per chapter... Sounds like some kind epic sci-fi for adult readers to me.
It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
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Try to get into the habit of counting words instead of pages. And this question is being asked on a regular basis here, you could've just made a simple search and you'd get more or less the same answers you've received here. The number of words in a chapter is irrelevant. It's the content that matters and how it relates to the other chapters.
It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
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It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
As long as it needs to be to serve a purpose to the story! When I started I thought that chapters had to be more than X number of pages but really it’s down to what it’s offering the narrative. If you can do that in 2 pages, great. If you need 20, that’s great too. A story (and it’s chapters) is exactly as long as it needs to be
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It depends, but there is one rule I keep strict: one major event = one chapter.
I'd usually be around 3000 words. But as with everything, there are no hard and fast rules. Just finished reading Foundation by Asimov and some of the chapters are 10+ pages while others don't fill half a page.
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What are your deciding factors of ending a chapter? One of the only ways I can think of to end a chapter is if it's a cliffhanger or an entrance of a big event at the end and you choose to continue it in the next, but what are other ways or your deciding factors that a chapter is done to move onto the next?
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- Plant questions in the reader’s head. Desire for answers will turn pages - Have the character decide on a new action: Going to a new place; solving something that vexes them; set a course toward confrontation or reconciliation; a new purpose, either specific or overarching.
Usually when there is a change of some kind. A new revelation, a new piece of information, a pivotal character moment, a pivotal plot moment, that kind of thing. I want to end my chapters with a sense of momentum leading into the next chapter.
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What are your deciding factors of ending a chapter? One of the only ways I can think of to end a chapter is if it's a cliffhanger or an entrance of a big event at the end and you choose to continue it in the next, but what are other ways or your deciding factors that a chapter is done to move onto the next?
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- Plant questions in the reader’s head. Desire for answers will turn pages - Have the character decide on a new action: Going to a new place; solving something that vexes them; set a course toward confrontation or reconciliation; a new purpose, either specific or overarching.
CHAPTER 1. Up to you as long as it wor... CHAPTER 2 Sorry got interrupted by a falling anvil there. Generally what is easiest for the readers of novels is completed scenes. The story should be interesting enough that the reader should want to know more without cliff hangers or new introductory scenes. * Thunder rumbles I. The distance as a UFO swoops down at me * CHAPTER 3 Epsilon prime was a pain to escape. As I was saying... generally... sometimes you'll have a slow cooldown chapter and need to kick it up to draw Interest. now different genres have different expectations. Reading the genre you write will give you a clue of what to expect. There are also serials [think royal road, Kindle Villa, Patreon] those are a different writing style and those end more in how you write. The chapters there are often re-written some prior to being released in novel format. You could try writing in that environment, but they expect very regular content. If you want to work on more complete chapters practice narrative poetry and flash fiction writing.
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What are your deciding factors of ending a chapter? One of the only ways I can think of to end a chapter is if it's a cliffhanger or an entrance of a big event at the end and you choose to continue it in the next, but what are other ways or your deciding factors that a chapter is done to move onto the next?
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I would say a bit of a surprise factor that would make the reader want to continue.
CHAPTER 1. Up to you as long as it wor... CHAPTER 2 Sorry got interrupted by a falling anvil there. Generally what is easiest for the readers of novels is completed scenes. The story should be interesting enough that the reader should want to know more without cliff hangers or new introductory scenes. * Thunder rumbles I. The distance as a UFO swoops down at me * CHAPTER 3 Epsilon prime was a pain to escape. As I was saying... generally... sometimes you'll have a slow cooldown chapter and need to kick it up to draw Interest. now different genres have different expectations. Reading the genre you write will give you a clue of what to expect. There are also serials [think royal road, Kindle Villa, Patreon] those are a different writing style and those end more in how you write. The chapters there are often re-written some prior to being released in novel format. You could try writing in that environment, but they expect very regular content. If you want to work on more complete chapters practice narrative poetry and flash fiction writing.
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What are your deciding factors of ending a chapter? One of the only ways I can think of to end a chapter is if it's a cliffhanger or an entrance of a big event at the end and you choose to continue it in the next, but what are other ways or your deciding factors that a chapter is done to move onto the next?
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When the purpose of the chapter is done. That's really the only way I know how to describe it, but I can share an example from my current draft: Chapter 1 - introduce MC and her internal struggle, event happens that could sway the struggle Chapter 2 - MC adjusting to repercussions of events, decides on location change Chapter 3 - location has changed, introduce what life is like in new location, introduce new threat Chapter 4 - MC dealing with new threat, actions impact her internal struggle and further sway it Chapter 5 - MC adjusting to repercussions of dealing with threat, other character actions intensify the internal struggle Chapter 6 - MC reaches conclusion to internal struggle and makes a choice Each chapter has it's own purpose and I don't drag it on beyond the purpose. I wouldn't have MC adjusting to a new location in chapter 3 and dealing with the new threat that gets introduced because that to me feels like two chapter purposes that would drag on or be rushed if I tried to include it all in one chapter.
either a cliffhanger or a pause. the goal for me is to leave the reader suspended and wanting more(and likely to keep reading), or happy with a place to end for the night, after a nice read.
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Best place where i can make money from my short stories I often write stories, articles and lists and wanted to make money out of it What is the best place for it? How much i would be payed per publish?
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So, while you're not necessarily going to make full-time job money, I do make pocket money at the following places: Medium \- great for articles and lists Simily \- best for fiction, pays better than medium and Vocal but the site is relatively newish. Vocal \- I write opinion and short stories here. I will tell you I pay for the premium memberships on all three sites, but I *do* get monthly payments from all three. I also use this to build my audience for my published novels, too.
Submittable lists submissions calls as well
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Write custom erotica commissions
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Write custom erotica commissions
If it’s short fiction, I’d imagine Kremlin is currently in dire need of content, but probably only pays in rubles.
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Submittable lists submissions calls as well
What I see in SFF spheres is that short story writers are regularly selling different stories to different publications, e.g. Asimov's, Clarkesworld, Uncanny, F&SF, Locus, Analog, Beneath Ceaseless Skies, etc.
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What I see in SFF spheres is that short story writers are regularly selling different stories to different publications, e.g. Asimov's, Clarkesworld, Uncanny, F&SF, Locus, Analog, Beneath Ceaseless Skies, etc.
If it’s short fiction, I’d imagine Kremlin is currently in dire need of content, but probably only pays in rubles.
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The hope is that you would be *paid*, but there are no sure things. There is a lot of competition for the relatively few paying markets. You have to be on top of the writing game and know where to submit, because it's a waste of time to send stories/articles to the wrong markets.
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Make a blog. Create social medias around it and garner fans. After that you can publish with a base. Publish in magazines and online.
The hope is that you would be *paid*, but there are no sure things. There is a lot of competition for the relatively few paying markets. You have to be on top of the writing game and know where to submit, because it's a waste of time to send stories/articles to the wrong markets.
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If it’s short fiction, I’d imagine Kremlin is currently in dire need of content, but probably only pays in rubles.
The hope is that you would be *paid*, but there are no sure things. There is a lot of competition for the relatively few paying markets. You have to be on top of the writing game and know where to submit, because it's a waste of time to send stories/articles to the wrong markets.
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Think about this. The short story writers who get the most out of publishing in magazines are at the same time novel writers. Sometimes they write a shory story that a publisher asks them to make into a novel. So, how do you make the best money from short stories? Write novels, too!
Make a blog. Create social medias around it and garner fans. After that you can publish with a base. Publish in magazines and online.
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If it’s short fiction, I’d imagine Kremlin is currently in dire need of content, but probably only pays in rubles.
Make a blog. Create social medias around it and garner fans. After that you can publish with a base. Publish in magazines and online.
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Think about this. The short story writers who get the most out of publishing in magazines are at the same time novel writers. Sometimes they write a shory story that a publisher asks them to make into a novel. So, how do you make the best money from short stories? Write novels, too!
If it’s short fiction, I’d imagine Kremlin is currently in dire need of content, but probably only pays in rubles.
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When writing from two different perspectives, what are some things to be wary of? I’m planning on another perspective besides my MC, and they are on the enemy side/faction. What are some things that I should stay away from or be cautious about?
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I have multiple POV as well. The main thing I’ve learnt is that you make their outer voice distinctive from one another. The inner voice should be distinguishable organically if you’ve done due diligence in character development.
Don't give the other one information they wouldn't know just because you already mentioned it in the MC story. Also watch out how you want the enemy side to turn out, so they don't look either too sobby or cartoony (good warning is Thanos in MCU, one movie made him into a tragic hero, second one into standard cartoon villain for a grand total of "what")
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When writing from two different perspectives, what are some things to be wary of? I’m planning on another perspective besides my MC, and they are on the enemy side/faction. What are some things that I should stay away from or be cautious about?
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Make sure they have definitive character voices. So, for example, if you're writing someone that's an adult, and someone that's a child, then they'll pick up on different things, perceive the same thing differently, or even describe it in different ways. A person just conscripted into an army might find war terrifying or exciting, whereas a veteran soldier could be more cynical or apathetic. If you're writing from the opposite side to your MC, then they're not going to see themselves as a villain. They're going to view themselves as doing the right thing, albeit with probably extremely twisted logic. The main takeaway is to present them clearly as distinct characters. Too often I think people add in multiple POVs and maybe forget that the actual writing needs to change in order to reflect the character. A way to practice this might be to have the two characters describing the exact same scene, highlighting things that are interesting to them - things they ignore or skim over.
I have multiple POV as well. The main thing I’ve learnt is that you make their outer voice distinctive from one another. The inner voice should be distinguishable organically if you’ve done due diligence in character development.
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Different character voices, word choice, sentence structure, etc. I also like to vary the prose style as well to really change the mood. A lot of it naturally comes from getting into the mind of the other character
Consider using a different narrative style for your villain. For example, there's a lot to be said for choosing a third-person objective or omniscient viewpoint for your villain if you're doing something else for your hero. Since a typical villain holds the initiative in the beginning and is the one with definite plans and taking definite action, while the hero is initially ignorant of all these things, you can depict the villain's mindset and plans without ever dipping into their thoughts, since they're already acting upon their nefarious scheme. Also, anytime you get away from a stream-of-consciousness-y perspective, you can do straight narrative and tell the reader what they need to know directly, without filtering it through the hero's consciousness. Which is handy. The traditional pulp-fiction-y method is to do a scene from the murderer's or victim's perspective, usually playing coy and not revealing the identity of the murderer. (Variations on, "You!" he gasped, and died.) But the main thing is that you can revisit all your framing, style, voice, and viewpoint decisions for your second point of view and pick whatever works best.
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Don’t write outside the given POV’s vocabulary. A dumb brutish warrior won’t use the word “exemplary”, but a clever old nun character might.
Consider using a different narrative style for your villain. For example, there's a lot to be said for choosing a third-person objective or omniscient viewpoint for your villain if you're doing something else for your hero. Since a typical villain holds the initiative in the beginning and is the one with definite plans and taking definite action, while the hero is initially ignorant of all these things, you can depict the villain's mindset and plans without ever dipping into their thoughts, since they're already acting upon their nefarious scheme. Also, anytime you get away from a stream-of-consciousness-y perspective, you can do straight narrative and tell the reader what they need to know directly, without filtering it through the hero's consciousness. Which is handy. The traditional pulp-fiction-y method is to do a scene from the murderer's or victim's perspective, usually playing coy and not revealing the identity of the murderer. (Variations on, "You!" he gasped, and died.) But the main thing is that you can revisit all your framing, style, voice, and viewpoint decisions for your second point of view and pick whatever works best.
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When writing from two different perspectives, what are some things to be wary of? I’m planning on another perspective besides my MC, and they are on the enemy side/faction. What are some things that I should stay away from or be cautious about?
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I'd say you need to be almost hyperaware of motivations and informations. It seems easy to mix them up.
Consider using a different narrative style for your villain. For example, there's a lot to be said for choosing a third-person objective or omniscient viewpoint for your villain if you're doing something else for your hero. Since a typical villain holds the initiative in the beginning and is the one with definite plans and taking definite action, while the hero is initially ignorant of all these things, you can depict the villain's mindset and plans without ever dipping into their thoughts, since they're already acting upon their nefarious scheme. Also, anytime you get away from a stream-of-consciousness-y perspective, you can do straight narrative and tell the reader what they need to know directly, without filtering it through the hero's consciousness. Which is handy. The traditional pulp-fiction-y method is to do a scene from the murderer's or victim's perspective, usually playing coy and not revealing the identity of the murderer. (Variations on, "You!" he gasped, and died.) But the main thing is that you can revisit all your framing, style, voice, and viewpoint decisions for your second point of view and pick whatever works best.
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When writing from two different perspectives, what are some things to be wary of? I’m planning on another perspective besides my MC, and they are on the enemy side/faction. What are some things that I should stay away from or be cautious about?
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Make sure your POVs are distinguishable. I’ve read some books where the two perspectives are very similar to the point where I don’t know who’s talking.
Different character voices, word choice, sentence structure, etc. I also like to vary the prose style as well to really change the mood. A lot of it naturally comes from getting into the mind of the other character
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When writing from two different perspectives, what are some things to be wary of? I’m planning on another perspective besides my MC, and they are on the enemy side/faction. What are some things that I should stay away from or be cautious about?
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Make sure your POVs are distinguishable. I’ve read some books where the two perspectives are very similar to the point where I don’t know who’s talking.
Don’t write outside the given POV’s vocabulary. A dumb brutish warrior won’t use the word “exemplary”, but a clever old nun character might.
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I'd say you need to be almost hyperaware of motivations and informations. It seems easy to mix them up.
Make sure your POVs are distinguishable. I’ve read some books where the two perspectives are very similar to the point where I don’t know who’s talking.
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Use different voices. In other words make sure the characters’ narration/perspective is distinguishable from the others’. In an otherwise good novel (‘The Killers’ by Howie Carr) has two narrators. One is a gangster the other a political fixer. Their voices were so alike that it was a struggle to determine whose chapter it was.
Make it clear when there's a change and don't show everything twice, only what's interesting to see
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I write a lot of romance in the ol’ alternating perspectives first person format. One thing I try to do is ensure that they think differently. They need to each have a distinct voice. Our internal thoughts are influenced by our past and experience. The same is true with your characters. You can use that to help give them a distinct voice.
Make it clear when there's a change and don't show everything twice, only what's interesting to see
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Don't give YOUR prospective (if it's not one of them) or you opinion or anything about you in the paragraph about the prospective you're writing about. Your opinion/view goes AFTER you written down and finished giving BOTH prospectives
I write a lot of romance in the ol’ alternating perspectives first person format. One thing I try to do is ensure that they think differently. They need to each have a distinct voice. Our internal thoughts are influenced by our past and experience. The same is true with your characters. You can use that to help give them a distinct voice.
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**Page time —** A reader starts a book, inhabits a character's experience for a bunch of chapters and then BAM, they have to hop into some other character's experience. That's jarring. That can make your reader hate the second character. So, make sure you even out the page time up front if possible. Every other chapter is not a bad goal to shoot for. But, that limits how much you can build up an experience (because you can't build over multiple chapters to a banging conclusion). **Perspectives** — More perspectives means fewer surprises and trickier plot twists, especially when you have a bad guy perspective and a good guy perspective. Each has a plan to take the other down. The reader will know the plan. In suspense, that's good. We know the potential outcomes even before the characters do, but we don't know which outcome will happen.
Make it clear when there's a change and don't show everything twice, only what's interesting to see
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**Page time —** A reader starts a book, inhabits a character's experience for a bunch of chapters and then BAM, they have to hop into some other character's experience. That's jarring. That can make your reader hate the second character. So, make sure you even out the page time up front if possible. Every other chapter is not a bad goal to shoot for. But, that limits how much you can build up an experience (because you can't build over multiple chapters to a banging conclusion). **Perspectives** — More perspectives means fewer surprises and trickier plot twists, especially when you have a bad guy perspective and a good guy perspective. Each has a plan to take the other down. The reader will know the plan. In suspense, that's good. We know the potential outcomes even before the characters do, but we don't know which outcome will happen.
Don't give YOUR prospective (if it's not one of them) or you opinion or anything about you in the paragraph about the prospective you're writing about. Your opinion/view goes AFTER you written down and finished giving BOTH prospectives
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**Page time —** A reader starts a book, inhabits a character's experience for a bunch of chapters and then BAM, they have to hop into some other character's experience. That's jarring. That can make your reader hate the second character. So, make sure you even out the page time up front if possible. Every other chapter is not a bad goal to shoot for. But, that limits how much you can build up an experience (because you can't build over multiple chapters to a banging conclusion). **Perspectives** — More perspectives means fewer surprises and trickier plot twists, especially when you have a bad guy perspective and a good guy perspective. Each has a plan to take the other down. The reader will know the plan. In suspense, that's good. We know the potential outcomes even before the characters do, but we don't know which outcome will happen.
Keep the timeline consistent! I struggled with that so much. I had one character a week ahead of another character and it didn’t make much sense. Now that I’m rewriting it it’s becoming smoother and following a better timeline. Something I suggest to help with timelines is a calendar. Or something that deals with dates.
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My friend and I decide to make mangas in a few years and I'm taking care of the scripts. What do I need to be able to do? I'm French and I decided to practice making mangas with my friend who is learning how to draw. I have a lot of original ideas and a plot is already formed in my head but I'm only a 19-year-old who has never written something more serious than fanfiction. I don't think I'm going to need as much knowledge and practice as a true writer since I'm only going to write the scripts but I will surely need good practice and knowledge. Any advice on how I should start?
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Read lots of mangas and comics, and after Scott McCloud’s books, read books on screenwriting: they are super useful to learn to write. Writing good stories is not a second or easier thing in comics: it’s the heart. If your story sucks, the drawings and effort put into it are wasted. Story by Robert McKee and Anatomy of Story by John Truby are excellent books on writing. If you can, The art of comic book writing by Mark Kneece is a perfect book for beginner writers. You’ll really get an idea of the comic writing process and how scripting for comics is done well. Fall in love with comics, all of them: Japanese, American, Korean, French, etc etc. All have awesome and different things, all take from each other and all share differences and similarities that will teach you how to read them, to love them, and therefore that will strengthen your writing ability. As it’s with writing novels or films, writing in itself is a long learning process to do it well. But learning by doing, so as you do all this, write and finish as many stories as you can! Good luck!
Bonjour! First of all, even if you're only writing the scripts, you're still a writer! You will still be crafting a plot, the setting, etc. I've never written manga, so I'm probably not too much help, but my advice would be to start by reading manga. I'm sure you already do that, but go back through some of your favorite mangas and take note of why you liked them? Was it the storyline? What tropes did that author use? Notice how they comprise their sentences. Some of the best stories I've read were manga, and it was because the stories were unique and captivating, the plot intricate. When you guys are ready to create, maybe try creating for Webtoons. I love the comics on there, and I've seen quite a few artists go from making their own stuff on their own time, to being a paid creator for the app. Not to mention, there have been TV shows made from Webtoon comics. Not saying to expect that outcome, but it might be a place to start posting your content when you do create it. Sorry if I wasn't much help, but good luck!
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My friend and I decide to make mangas in a few years and I'm taking care of the scripts. What do I need to be able to do? I'm French and I decided to practice making mangas with my friend who is learning how to draw. I have a lot of original ideas and a plot is already formed in my head but I'm only a 19-year-old who has never written something more serious than fanfiction. I don't think I'm going to need as much knowledge and practice as a true writer since I'm only going to write the scripts but I will surely need good practice and knowledge. Any advice on how I should start?
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Read lots of mangas and comics, and after Scott McCloud’s books, read books on screenwriting: they are super useful to learn to write. Writing good stories is not a second or easier thing in comics: it’s the heart. If your story sucks, the drawings and effort put into it are wasted. Story by Robert McKee and Anatomy of Story by John Truby are excellent books on writing. If you can, The art of comic book writing by Mark Kneece is a perfect book for beginner writers. You’ll really get an idea of the comic writing process and how scripting for comics is done well. Fall in love with comics, all of them: Japanese, American, Korean, French, etc etc. All have awesome and different things, all take from each other and all share differences and similarities that will teach you how to read them, to love them, and therefore that will strengthen your writing ability. As it’s with writing novels or films, writing in itself is a long learning process to do it well. But learning by doing, so as you do all this, write and finish as many stories as you can! Good luck!
If you are French then you would be making bande dessinée, not manga.
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My friend and I decide to make mangas in a few years and I'm taking care of the scripts. What do I need to be able to do? I'm French and I decided to practice making mangas with my friend who is learning how to draw. I have a lot of original ideas and a plot is already formed in my head but I'm only a 19-year-old who has never written something more serious than fanfiction. I don't think I'm going to need as much knowledge and practice as a true writer since I'm only going to write the scripts but I will surely need good practice and knowledge. Any advice on how I should start?
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Bonjour! First of all, even if you're only writing the scripts, you're still a writer! You will still be crafting a plot, the setting, etc. I've never written manga, so I'm probably not too much help, but my advice would be to start by reading manga. I'm sure you already do that, but go back through some of your favorite mangas and take note of why you liked them? Was it the storyline? What tropes did that author use? Notice how they comprise their sentences. Some of the best stories I've read were manga, and it was because the stories were unique and captivating, the plot intricate. When you guys are ready to create, maybe try creating for Webtoons. I love the comics on there, and I've seen quite a few artists go from making their own stuff on their own time, to being a paid creator for the app. Not to mention, there have been TV shows made from Webtoon comics. Not saying to expect that outcome, but it might be a place to start posting your content when you do create it. Sorry if I wasn't much help, but good luck!
If you are French then you would be making bande dessinée, not manga.
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vl2dgr
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My friend and I decide to make mangas in a few years and I'm taking care of the scripts. What do I need to be able to do? I'm French and I decided to practice making mangas with my friend who is learning how to draw. I have a lot of original ideas and a plot is already formed in my head but I'm only a 19-year-old who has never written something more serious than fanfiction. I don't think I'm going to need as much knowledge and practice as a true writer since I'm only going to write the scripts but I will surely need good practice and knowledge. Any advice on how I should start?
idvfpy2
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- Draw lots of circles - Then draw lots of straight lines - Then draw basic shapes over images of people and objects like buildings - Then draw lots of timed gesture drawings - Sketch lots and lots of clothes. Pinterest is a good place for fashions. I'd recommend clothes on mannequins after drawing your own as well as with people wearing them. Draw lots of shoes, bows, frills, and laces on their own for practice. Separate them into categories like a folder for women's Steampunk and one for men's Steampunk and another for Pastel Goth, and another for Punk Lolita, then Gorgeous Lolita, another for ball gowns, another for kimonos, another for athletic wear and so on. Then you build up your visual library and become better at making up your own outfits and simplifying them for a manga style Manga is in black in white but I'd focus on drawing and shading black and white for value studies anyway tho studying color later will also be good - Really focus on backgrounds and expressions. Anime backgrounds are usually more detailed and complicated than the characters themselves and it's very hard to get the aesthetic right even if the basics are just because nothing blends right and you don't know what layers to set to for what tho styles I feel like are studio secrets so you probably have to know someone to get it right I am practicing myself too Edit: Here's what I'm explaining. The gestures were 30 seconds each tho I colored some of their hair and outfits after practice and even included some of my practice with hair. I also included outfits I drew and their references. They aren't in manga or anime style but is still practicing fundamentals of anatomy, values, and fashion which can be stylized https://imgur.com/a/FiRVkw7
If you are French then you would be making bande dessinée, not manga.
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vl2dgr
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My friend and I decide to make mangas in a few years and I'm taking care of the scripts. What do I need to be able to do? I'm French and I decided to practice making mangas with my friend who is learning how to draw. I have a lot of original ideas and a plot is already formed in my head but I'm only a 19-year-old who has never written something more serious than fanfiction. I don't think I'm going to need as much knowledge and practice as a true writer since I'm only going to write the scripts but I will surely need good practice and knowledge. Any advice on how I should start?
idsyla5
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If you are French then you would be making bande dessinée, not manga.
always think about your story medium when brainstorming. manga is black and white pictures on pages with some words. there are panels and some splash pages. anything you come up with that is not one of those things will not make it into your story. when picturing ideas you might picture this super awesome scene of a billion spaceships zipping around with lasers flashing and loud explosions and epic music. that's cool. not a comic book though. put that in a comic and it feels like a shell of its former grandeur it had in your mind. instead focus on the strengths of the medium. what are story elements that you think are conveyed perfectly in manga? use tons and tons and tons of that stuff. even as the writer it is not your job to cram the pages with words. it is your job to come up with a story that can be told super well in the manga format. remember people pick up a manga because they like looking at the art. if they wanna read a bunch of words they can read a book. yeah some comics succeed that are very heavy on dialogue. but even those aren't using the medium to its fullest. i think the most important aspects for a manga writer are: * character design * dense dialogue dripping with character * visual storytelling--coming up with images that tell the vast majority of a story. as an exercise think of a character walking through a crime scene, examining things. they say nothing, but they linger on certain things. can most readers solve the murder based on those details? those are the things you will want to be able to come up with. the gun on the mantlepiece that gets fired in act 3. the letter opener on the desk that is used to stab someone in act 5. * paneling, page layout, paying attention to page flips and how they are timed with story beats. every 2-page spread is a bit like a mini story. * pacing. it can be easy for each page to just have one or two extra panels on it that seem to be doing something but aren't carrying their weight. readers wanna feel like they got something 'important' every reading session. also action can be too slowed down if too much of each action is shown. this is where the artist and the writer gotta collaborate on what works best. but as the writer you should have a pretty good idea of how many panels will be on each page, when the page flips will be, and what each panel will contain. * including the details to direct the artist. some of them might seem so obvious they don't need mentioning, but they are not. even if they don't 'matter to the plot' they can still matter a bit. What TIME OF DAY is this shot? that could change the entire context of a scene, from a standard office meeting to a midnight rendezvous. season. setting. clothing. atmosphere. there is no 100% standard format for this. i personally give a basic panel layout that I think could work, one page for the script, and one page for a description of what i want each panel/page to accomplish. working with your artist friend, find out exactly what works for them. always leave tons of room for their own creativity. you can just say 'a futuristic alien metropolis' and leave the entire splash page to their imagination. likewise you can tell them exactly what time the clock in the background of the security footage should be showing because it will matter later. * give the artist plenty of cool awesome things to draw. remember you're a team and it's a voluntary team-up. things that excite the artist will probably excite the audience too. and if you just gotta have something like two characters sitting in an office chatting for a long time--see if you can think of details that will keep things visually interesting. artists can be good at this but you don't want them puzzling over how to make your boring script look good. give them something inherently visually interesting and then let them try to make it amazing. * learn a bit of art yourself! knowing the basics will help you ask for better panels, better pages. your artist has limited time and the last thing you wanna do is have the both of you feel like you need to scrap something fully written and drawn. you do not need anything approaching technical prowess. just learn some fundamentals and sketch out your ideas with shitty stick figures. learn to make panels with no dialogue. learn to realize sometimes you need to rewrite your dialogue if you want it to have a snowball's chance in hell at fitting in that panel.
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Short stories that expand into a novel Hello!! I’ve been developing a fantasy world for quite some time and I wanted to create a series of short stories that gives a taste of the characters and the world at large. The short stories will also allude to the villain in the story and give way to many other story beats. Would that be too much extra material to digest since I wanna make the overall narrative into a novel?
ipe9o42
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It shouldn't be too much to digest if the short stories and novel can each stand on their own.
I don't see a problem with it if the content is extra, or original, content, and not just repurposed canon. This is actually a completely fine approach. But maybe you may find more promising the idea of creating entirely separate universes for these short stories, and having parts of your original narrative present as *motifs*. This is the approach I am taking with my writing. I started a big sci-fi world in high school with particular narratives, and to make that world more appealing and publishable, I am making short stories and other standalone novels in different universes which have the same themes as "muted" motifs. Perhaps you feel it may be too much material because you desire to have these short stories officially published? Writers make novellas all the time, but if you're just starting out, you may want to investigate the idea of sharing on Wattpad. After all, you're self-distributing on the internet, so there's no reason to fear that there's "too much material." In fact, if you want to gain an audience, you need material to build one! So you may find this approach can gain you a small following privately while you pursue official publication for the main project, all without needing to go through the hassle of coming up with completely original ideas all over again. *Motifs.* I hope this helps!
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Should I try to write/publish short stories before trying to write/publish a novel? Full disclosure, I’ve only ever really written fanfiction before, but I want to genuinely publish original work, too. I’m just wondering what the best approach to this is and where I should direct my efforts first. Advice is welcome!
hs6rhet
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I started in fanfic and am moving into original, so feel free to DM at any point. I started writing my first original novel before I did anything with short stories. Otoh, I've also written several short stories, and polished three to the point of being willing to submit them for pub. So far, I've only gotten rejected - which actually was the point. The turnaround for short stories is much faster, and even if you're *good,* you still get rejected. Trying to get traditionally published means not just having an idea, drafting, revising, getting betas, revising again, etc; it also means *knowing* that you're going to get rejected, and often. Sometimes just ghosted. Moving from fanfic to original, I'd say the biggest 'weaknesses' were in worldbuilding and description. In fanfic, I didn't have to do those; the people reading my work already knew the places and people, already knew the lore. There's none of that with original work.
Eh. Short stories and novels are different beasts with different approaches and different norms. The benefit of writing short stories first is to teach you how to actually write words that make sense and flow well. If you've been writing fanfiction then you have already had that practice. If you're happy with your level of writing now, I would say write the thing that you want to be writing. There are enough obstacles and distractions and excuses that get in the way of actually writing a novel. "I need to practice more with short stories" is usually just another way to procrastinate for a lot of people.
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Should I try to write/publish short stories before trying to write/publish a novel? Full disclosure, I’ve only ever really written fanfiction before, but I want to genuinely publish original work, too. I’m just wondering what the best approach to this is and where I should direct my efforts first. Advice is welcome!
hs6uvsg
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If I said *No* would you listen? Come up with an object, a character and a forced or desired objective and see how you write with it. When you get stuck, don't feel the need to solve it. Choose another 3 and go again.
Eh. Short stories and novels are different beasts with different approaches and different norms. The benefit of writing short stories first is to teach you how to actually write words that make sense and flow well. If you've been writing fanfiction then you have already had that practice. If you're happy with your level of writing now, I would say write the thing that you want to be writing. There are enough obstacles and distractions and excuses that get in the way of actually writing a novel. "I need to practice more with short stories" is usually just another way to procrastinate for a lot of people.
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msiubu
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Where to publish a story online? I'm considering writing stories casually and publishing them online, but I want to publish them on a site or application that allows me to monetize them, and keep all the rights to them, so I could publish physical copies with no problems if I wanted to. What sites or applications that allow those things would you suggest I look into?
gusw23f
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Amazon.
**Kindle Direct Publishing** will turn your story into a paper version and a digital version. You just have to make the cover and format the story to fit their standards. You'll also have to do the marketing for your book or you won't make any sales. **Smashwords** is another site that will turn you book into a paper version and a digital version. You'll have to do the same thing with formatting, make a cover and market it like you do for Amazon. If you have the money to burn you could print a bunch of books yourself from a book printing site and sell them yourself from home. All you would need is to build a site or Facebook page and market your book and sell to people using PayPal or whatever. I wouldn't do this is I were you because there's a high risk you'd never make your money back.
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msiubu
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Where to publish a story online? I'm considering writing stories casually and publishing them online, but I want to publish them on a site or application that allows me to monetize them, and keep all the rights to them, so I could publish physical copies with no problems if I wanted to. What sites or applications that allow those things would you suggest I look into?
gusyr6c
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There are various alternatives: Amazon or any other publishing website, like Lulu. AMazon asks for exclusive rights if you go for the 70% royalties instead of 35%, though. Both sites let you print copies or put print on demand ones on sale. Magazines: some magazines pay for short stories , be it by the word or a fixed amount per submission, but most want exclusive rights for a period, like 6 months or a year.
**Kindle Direct Publishing** will turn your story into a paper version and a digital version. You just have to make the cover and format the story to fit their standards. You'll also have to do the marketing for your book or you won't make any sales. **Smashwords** is another site that will turn you book into a paper version and a digital version. You'll have to do the same thing with formatting, make a cover and market it like you do for Amazon. If you have the money to burn you could print a bunch of books yourself from a book printing site and sell them yourself from home. All you would need is to build a site or Facebook page and market your book and sell to people using PayPal or whatever. I wouldn't do this is I were you because there's a high risk you'd never make your money back.
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