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t3_1kgwn3
I believe the washing machine - but not the dryer - was, and still is, the most revolutionary appliance ever invented. CMV
As I was loading my laundry I imagined how much life would suck without this wonderful invention. Before any sort of automated clothes washing process was developed, you had to wash your clothes by hand with washboards and the even older methods used before those were thought up. Yeah, yeah the washer/dryer combo is very convenient but putting clothes on a line or rack to dry isn't a big deal compared to wringing a day's worth of hard, manual labor out of some jeans. My laundry will be ready to dry in 30 minutes. It would have taken hours without this miracle. Sure, refrigerators are extremely badass too, but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if they didn't exist. Same goes for the equally sweet microwave. The one thing that could come close is air conditioning. I absolutely love air conditioning. I grew up in a dry, sweltering desert with 120 degree [Fahrenheit] summers. AC was a God send, and it still is, even though I live in a cooler climate. Heating is the other big one. I've also lived in a snowy, wooded area and know all too well the wonders of heating. That being said, I've experienced several day power outages where I didn't have AC during a heat wave and heating during a snow storm, respectively. You can make do with shitty weather one way or another and you adapt pretty quickly. Washing clothes, however, sucks no matter where you live and what time of the year it is. Imagine how much more awesome the wild west would have been if you could toss your clothes in a machine after a long, grueling day of dueling people and robbing armored carriages. Instead you have to go home to your bandit hideout somewhere in the hills outside of town and wash the blood from the guy you just robbed out of your sweet "This isn't where I hitched my horse" riding vest using your Goddamn hands when you could be enjoying some nice delicious beer and mountain goat barbecue while the laundry washes and rinses for you. Do any folks have any suggestions as to why I should feel otherwise?
I believe the washing machine - but not the dryer - was, and still is, the most revolutionary appliance ever invented. CMV. As I was loading my laundry I imagined how much life would suck without this wonderful invention. Before any sort of automated clothes washing process was developed, you had to wash your clothes by hand with washboards and the even older methods used before those were thought up. Yeah, yeah the washer/dryer combo is very convenient but putting clothes on a line or rack to dry isn't a big deal compared to wringing a day's worth of hard, manual labor out of some jeans. My laundry will be ready to dry in 30 minutes. It would have taken hours without this miracle. Sure, refrigerators are extremely badass too, but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if they didn't exist. Same goes for the equally sweet microwave. The one thing that could come close is air conditioning. I absolutely love air conditioning. I grew up in a dry, sweltering desert with 120 degree [Fahrenheit] summers. AC was a God send, and it still is, even though I live in a cooler climate. Heating is the other big one. I've also lived in a snowy, wooded area and know all too well the wonders of heating. That being said, I've experienced several day power outages where I didn't have AC during a heat wave and heating during a snow storm, respectively. You can make do with shitty weather one way or another and you adapt pretty quickly. Washing clothes, however, sucks no matter where you live and what time of the year it is. Imagine how much more awesome the wild west would have been if you could toss your clothes in a machine after a long, grueling day of dueling people and robbing armored carriages. Instead you have to go home to your bandit hideout somewhere in the hills outside of town and wash the blood from the guy you just robbed out of your sweet "This isn't where I hitched my horse" riding vest using your Goddamn hands when you could be enjoying some nice delicious beer and mountain goat barbecue while the laundry washes and rinses for you. Do any folks have any suggestions as to why I should feel otherwise?
t3_382uqn
CMV: The pledge of allegience and other rituals of national identity are holding society back.
Nationalism in general is harmful distinction amongst people serving only to encourage people to believe that (not necessarily even) the country they were born makes them more important / better than others from different countires. This further highlights physical and cultural differences keeping race, creed and skin colour at the forefront of discrimination. Your land mass of preference is nothing more than a matter of circumstance and the nationals of your country are just as much of a burden on the planet as the foreigners these rituals imply are second rate. Edit: This has necessarily expanded into a discussion on - Social economics - Patriotism vs nationalism In terms of economics: Please assume any reference to this is intended to express public (and occasionally at a push, social) benefits. The reasoning for doing so is to hopefully highlight how national identity can be a) relative to your perceptions of "lesser countries". b) a productive of abusing of nations / collections of nations. e.g, DDT ban once the rest of the world no longer needed America for its production. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: The pledge of allegience and other rituals of national identity are holding society back. Nationalism in general is harmful distinction amongst people serving only to encourage people to believe that (not necessarily even) the country they were born makes them more important / better than others from different countires. This further highlights physical and cultural differences keeping race, creed and skin colour at the forefront of discrimination. Your land mass of preference is nothing more than a matter of circumstance and the nationals of your country are just as much of a burden on the planet as the foreigners these rituals imply are second rate. Edit: This has necessarily expanded into a discussion on - Social economics - Patriotism vs nationalism In terms of economics: Please assume any reference to this is intended to express public (and occasionally at a push, social) benefits. The reasoning for doing so is to hopefully highlight how national identity can be a) relative to your perceptions of "lesser countries". b) a productive of abusing of nations / collections of nations. e.g, DDT ban once the rest of the world no longer needed America for its production.
t3_1kzfmv
I believe that if the world ends, it wouldn't be a bad thing. CMV
I think that if the earth exploded right now and every human being died it would not make a difference. It would be really sad if people died few by few like in some apocalyptic movies (*2012, World War Z, The Day After Tomorrow...*). Seeing people you love dying would be horrible. But if everyone died at the same time, what is the difference? Nobody would be sad, nobody would suffer. And I even think that if just the human beings died and the other living species stayed alive, the world would be a better place for them to live. Don't get me wrong. I'm not suicidal and I don't wanna die. But if someone said to me that everyone would die in 1 minute, I think I would just be like *"Whatever.."*
I believe that if the world ends, it wouldn't be a bad thing. CMV. I think that if the earth exploded right now and every human being died it would not make a difference. It would be really sad if people died few by few like in some apocalyptic movies (*2012, World War Z, The Day After Tomorrow...*). Seeing people you love dying would be horrible. But if everyone died at the same time, what is the difference? Nobody would be sad, nobody would suffer. And I even think that if just the human beings died and the other living species stayed alive, the world would be a better place for them to live. Don't get me wrong. I'm not suicidal and I don't wanna die. But if someone said to me that everyone would die in 1 minute, I think I would just be like *"Whatever.."*
t3_1ss21x
I think the main reason to object to cars isn't pollution or gasoline, it's the space; the fact that gridlock happens at all is ridiculous. CMV.
When I see most car-judging on the Internet, I see people mainly talking about tailpipe emissions and the environment, or else gasoline prices and international politics. Now I want to agree hastily that these are good, important things to worry about, but I'm not really worried about them, at least not in the long term. Cars are getting more fuel efficient, and hybrid cars are gaining market share, and eventually they'll run on some other energy source anyway. But cars are *not* getting significantly smaller, the brief Mini fad notwithstanding, and the population is growing. My home city, Vancouver, is certainly not the worst North American city when it comes to traffic, and I think some people would even say we're comparatively pretty good. But still every morning, and every evening, for about 2 hours each, our downtown core and the major arteries of our city are full. Not completely jammed, but moving slowly, bumper-nearly-to-bumper, travelling at roughly the same average pace as a moderately-fit jogger. They move this slowly because there are such-and-such many cars per kilometre of road, and because it would be unsafe to drive at/near the speed limit when the distance between cars is so short; no one has that kind of reaction time. And there are so many cars because, as a society, we have this thing where it is basically expected that every adult who has passed some tests, is entitled to occupy their own 4 or 5 meter rectangle of public road space to themselves, for as long as they need to. This is something which most city dwellers see as normal, and I can't seem to get anyone else to see this everyone-gets-a-car-or-at-least-most-people model of urban life as a completely absurd, ludicrous solution to a pretty simple engineering problem. The usefulness of everyone's car decreases slightly with each additional car there is on the road, and I feel like most medium-to-big cities are already at the point of diminishing returns, where additional cars slow down their neighbours by a greater margin than they provide their own driver, and so actually have *negative net utility.* Does it make sense for people to use the same machine to traverse between cities (highway systems are *very* efficient!) as they use to cross town? If it does, CMV!
I think the main reason to object to cars isn't pollution or gasoline, it's the space; the fact that gridlock happens at all is ridiculous. CMV. When I see most car-judging on the Internet, I see people mainly talking about tailpipe emissions and the environment, or else gasoline prices and international politics. Now I want to agree hastily that these are good, important things to worry about, but I'm not really worried about them, at least not in the long term. Cars are getting more fuel efficient, and hybrid cars are gaining market share, and eventually they'll run on some other energy source anyway. But cars are *not* getting significantly smaller, the brief Mini fad notwithstanding, and the population is growing. My home city, Vancouver, is certainly not the worst North American city when it comes to traffic, and I think some people would even say we're comparatively pretty good. But still every morning, and every evening, for about 2 hours each, our downtown core and the major arteries of our city are full. Not completely jammed, but moving slowly, bumper-nearly-to-bumper, travelling at roughly the same average pace as a moderately-fit jogger. They move this slowly because there are such-and-such many cars per kilometre of road, and because it would be unsafe to drive at/near the speed limit when the distance between cars is so short; no one has that kind of reaction time. And there are so many cars because, as a society, we have this thing where it is basically expected that every adult who has passed some tests, is entitled to occupy their own 4 or 5 meter rectangle of public road space to themselves, for as long as they need to. This is something which most city dwellers see as normal, and I can't seem to get anyone else to see this everyone-gets-a-car-or-at-least-most-people model of urban life as a completely absurd, ludicrous solution to a pretty simple engineering problem. The usefulness of everyone's car decreases slightly with each additional car there is on the road, and I feel like most medium-to-big cities are already at the point of diminishing returns, where additional cars slow down their neighbours by a greater margin than they provide their own driver, and so actually have *negative net utility.* Does it make sense for people to use the same machine to traverse between cities (highway systems are *very* efficient!) as they use to cross town? If it does, CMV!
t3_2ocaob
CMV: I think that people who have ever cheated in a relationship are not worth dating.
Being cheated on, to put it simply, is obviously a universally negative experience. Of course people handle it differently; some people brush it off quickly and other people end up on a negative spiral lasting years. Now I'm not sure what the exact statistic is, but it's probably safe to say that most people experience being cheated on at some point in their life. Cheating also tends to be a repeat behaviour. I believe that in many, if not most cases it is caused by a personality flaw in the person who cheated. As such, if someone wants to minimize their chance of being hurt in this way; it would be best to avoid people who have a history of cheating. Of course, this isn't a foolproof strategy; but is statistically more likely to work out better for you. Now you might say that people who have cheated a long time ago should deserve a second chance; that they have changed and "wouldn't do that again". I disagree. When people mess up in a certain area they tend to not easily get a second chance in that area. Will anyone ever respect Lance Armstrong's future cycling achievements? I doubt it. Would an accounting firm hire someone with a fraud conviction, even if they were a financial genius and had spent the last 20 years rescuing puppies? Probably not. With all the other choices of people to date; it's a mistake to date someone who has cheated in the past. Also, if more people thought this way, it might even decrease the number of people who do cheat (but probably not). Anyway, I welcome to change my view. EDIT: A few things that I would really like to address. For some reason a great deal of the posters here are misconstruing my view as something along the line of "Cheaters are irredemable and can never have successful relationships" or "Nobody can ever change". These have nothing to do with my view; in fact I disagree with both. I do NOT want for anyone to suffer and it is not my secret goal in life for people who made a youth to be forever alone. However I have altered my view. What I believe is simply that cheating is a good method of screening out potential dates. Reflecting on my topic however, the proposed view of "Not worth dating" has certainly been softened, even though it probably was never really that extreme to begin with. Some people who have cheated are certainly worth getting to know and dating. I'll award a delta to whom I feel best made this point. I'd like the chance to rephrase my view as "For me, people who have cheated in the past are not worth the risk to date." If you can convince me to give this up you get another delta. EDIT 2: I really haven't met the standard of proof to make the claim that completely avoiding people who have cheated in the past offers any sort of benefit (let alone a guarantee of avoiding hurt). My opinion was clouded by personal resentment and such a blanket statement really is logically indefensible. While I still would avoid dating someone who cheated because of my personal issues, these issues fall upon me alone to work on. Thanks to everyone who contributed. Any more insight, of course, is still welcome. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: I think that people who have ever cheated in a relationship are not worth dating. Being cheated on, to put it simply, is obviously a universally negative experience. Of course people handle it differently; some people brush it off quickly and other people end up on a negative spiral lasting years. Now I'm not sure what the exact statistic is, but it's probably safe to say that most people experience being cheated on at some point in their life. Cheating also tends to be a repeat behaviour. I believe that in many, if not most cases it is caused by a personality flaw in the person who cheated. As such, if someone wants to minimize their chance of being hurt in this way; it would be best to avoid people who have a history of cheating. Of course, this isn't a foolproof strategy; but is statistically more likely to work out better for you. Now you might say that people who have cheated a long time ago should deserve a second chance; that they have changed and "wouldn't do that again". I disagree. When people mess up in a certain area they tend to not easily get a second chance in that area. Will anyone ever respect Lance Armstrong's future cycling achievements? I doubt it. Would an accounting firm hire someone with a fraud conviction, even if they were a financial genius and had spent the last 20 years rescuing puppies? Probably not. With all the other choices of people to date; it's a mistake to date someone who has cheated in the past. Also, if more people thought this way, it might even decrease the number of people who do cheat (but probably not). Anyway, I welcome to change my view. EDIT: A few things that I would really like to address. For some reason a great deal of the posters here are misconstruing my view as something along the line of "Cheaters are irredemable and can never have successful relationships" or "Nobody can ever change". These have nothing to do with my view; in fact I disagree with both. I do NOT want for anyone to suffer and it is not my secret goal in life for people who made a youth to be forever alone. However I have altered my view. What I believe is simply that cheating is a good method of screening out potential dates. Reflecting on my topic however, the proposed view of "Not worth dating" has certainly been softened, even though it probably was never really that extreme to begin with. Some people who have cheated are certainly worth getting to know and dating. I'll award a delta to whom I feel best made this point. I'd like the chance to rephrase my view as "For me, people who have cheated in the past are not worth the risk to date." If you can convince me to give this up you get another delta. EDIT 2: I really haven't met the standard of proof to make the claim that completely avoiding people who have cheated in the past offers any sort of benefit (let alone a guarantee of avoiding hurt). My opinion was clouded by personal resentment and such a blanket statement really is logically indefensible. While I still would avoid dating someone who cheated because of my personal issues, these issues fall upon me alone to work on. Thanks to everyone who contributed. Any more insight, of course, is still welcome.
t3_1fxjrb
I believe that spanking my child is a proper and acceptable form of punishment. CMV.
I will be having a child soon, and the discussion of Discipline came up between my wife and I. She was raised with time-outs and wagged fingers, while I was raised with spankings and slapped wrists. I've began noticing that there are a lot of people out there who believe that spanking is immoral, and in some instances bordering abuse. I simply disagree. Now, I'm not talking about *beating* my child mercilessly. I'm simply talking about a stern slap on the bottom and an explanation of what they did wrong and why they were punished. I feel like it is much more effective than making a child stand in a corner for a bit and think about what they've done. My wife came out to be a perfectly functional human being, however. So did I. That's why I'm coming to you, because I'd like to hear a logical argument for time-outs and other non-physical forms of punishment *as opposed to* spankings.
I believe that spanking my child is a proper and acceptable form of punishment. CMV. I will be having a child soon, and the discussion of Discipline came up between my wife and I. She was raised with time-outs and wagged fingers, while I was raised with spankings and slapped wrists. I've began noticing that there are a lot of people out there who believe that spanking is immoral, and in some instances bordering abuse. I simply disagree. Now, I'm not talking about *beating* my child mercilessly. I'm simply talking about a stern slap on the bottom and an explanation of what they did wrong and why they were punished. I feel like it is much more effective than making a child stand in a corner for a bit and think about what they've done. My wife came out to be a perfectly functional human being, however. So did I. That's why I'm coming to you, because I'd like to hear a logical argument for time-outs and other non-physical forms of punishment *as opposed to* spankings.
t3_2rq5g3
CMV: In heaven, as long as an individual has free will and eternal life, they will sin an infinite number of times.
My argument assumes the Christian theology taught by most non-denominational churches in the USA. Statements 1-3 are primarily taken from this theology. I would rather not argue these points, but rather the philosophy in statements 4-9. However, if there is a better interpretation of Christian beliefs than the one I am presenting, I still would be interested to hear it. Here's my argument. 1. After the events of the current universe have expired, select individuals will go to heaven. 2. The Bible refers to an infinite passage of time in this heaven. e.g. "the righteous will reign forever", "God has given us eternal life" which is taken literally according to the most common Christian interpretation of the text. 3. Every being continues to have free will in heaven. (I realize that this is a point of debate even among Christians, but I would like to pursue this particular line of thought. Assuming the opposite introduces a whole new set of issues.) 4. If a being has free will, then there is the possibility that they will sin. 5. As long as the individual continues to have free will and continues to have eternal life, then the possibility of sin will remain. 6. Given an infinite amount of time, if there is the possibility that something will occur, it will eventually occur.* 7. From (5) and (6), an individual must sin at some point. 8. Since (5) still holds given the immutable conditions for eternal life and residency in heaven presented by the Bible, (6) and (7) still follow. 9. (5-8) can repeated an infinite number of times, so the individual will sin an infinite number of times. (Conclusion) * I realize that (6) is not strictly true. For instance if sin is conditional on something else with a zero probability, then sin could still be possible without actually ever occurring. However I'll maintain that the only condition for sin is free will. In other words, the only condition needed for sin to occur is an individual's ability to choose. As long as this ability remains, then (6) holds. Thanks for reading, CMV. Edit: Several people are responding that free will is not the only requirement for sin to occur. In order for an individual to sin, then there must also be a reason, opportunity, or temptation. Although this would fix the problem, I don't think it is consistent with the rest of Christian theology. The reason is because according to Christianity, the possibility of sin is a requirement for free will to exist. God created a world with the possibility of sin so that its inhabitants could have free will. If there were secondary requirements for sin, as those listed above, then the possibility of sin could be eliminated without removing free will. Then I would ask, why is there sin in this universe? The standard response of, 'so that we can have free will' would no longer be a satisfactory answer. In short, if you propose that there is a secondary requirement for sin beyond free will, then you would need to revisit the question of why sin exists in the first place. Edit2: Thank you all for your responses. I've about exhausted the amount of time I want to spend replying, and I'm sorry that I didn't get to address every point. I do not think my argument is as strong as I originally thought, so I hope to revise it using all the helpful suggestions posted here. Thanks again. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: In heaven, as long as an individual has free will and eternal life, they will sin an infinite number of times. My argument assumes the Christian theology taught by most non-denominational churches in the USA. Statements 1-3 are primarily taken from this theology. I would rather not argue these points, but rather the philosophy in statements 4-9. However, if there is a better interpretation of Christian beliefs than the one I am presenting, I still would be interested to hear it. Here's my argument. 1. After the events of the current universe have expired, select individuals will go to heaven. 2. The Bible refers to an infinite passage of time in this heaven. e.g. "the righteous will reign forever", "God has given us eternal life" which is taken literally according to the most common Christian interpretation of the text. 3. Every being continues to have free will in heaven. (I realize that this is a point of debate even among Christians, but I would like to pursue this particular line of thought. Assuming the opposite introduces a whole new set of issues.) 4. If a being has free will, then there is the possibility that they will sin. 5. As long as the individual continues to have free will and continues to have eternal life, then the possibility of sin will remain. 6. Given an infinite amount of time, if there is the possibility that something will occur, it will eventually occur.* 7. From (5) and (6), an individual must sin at some point. 8. Since (5) still holds given the immutable conditions for eternal life and residency in heaven presented by the Bible, (6) and (7) still follow. 9. (5-8) can repeated an infinite number of times, so the individual will sin an infinite number of times. (Conclusion) * I realize that (6) is not strictly true. For instance if sin is conditional on something else with a zero probability, then sin could still be possible without actually ever occurring. However I'll maintain that the only condition for sin is free will. In other words, the only condition needed for sin to occur is an individual's ability to choose. As long as this ability remains, then (6) holds. Thanks for reading, CMV. Edit: Several people are responding that free will is not the only requirement for sin to occur. In order for an individual to sin, then there must also be a reason, opportunity, or temptation. Although this would fix the problem, I don't think it is consistent with the rest of Christian theology. The reason is because according to Christianity, the possibility of sin is a requirement for free will to exist. God created a world with the possibility of sin so that its inhabitants could have free will. If there were secondary requirements for sin, as those listed above, then the possibility of sin could be eliminated without removing free will. Then I would ask, why is there sin in this universe? The standard response of, 'so that we can have free will' would no longer be a satisfactory answer. In short, if you propose that there is a secondary requirement for sin beyond free will, then you would need to revisit the question of why sin exists in the first place. Edit2: Thank you all for your responses. I've about exhausted the amount of time I want to spend replying, and I'm sorry that I didn't get to address every point. I do not think my argument is as strong as I originally thought, so I hope to revise it using all the helpful suggestions posted here. Thanks again.
t3_71vqkk
CMV: It's impossible to become a politician if you've blundered on social media in your youth.
No matter how much you may have changed, the digital proof of your past views/behavior will always be widely accessible and successfully exploitable by your adversaries. If you were ever captured being ignorant, hateful, or lewdly sexual (images or otherwise), you have no chance at becoming president or any other major position in your country's government. No matter how much you've changed or what you've learned, the people will not accept you. CMV: People who have high hopes for their country and how they can help their brothers and sisters should give up if they have ever gravely blundered on record in the past. edit: spelling
CMV: It's impossible to become a politician if you've blundered on social media in your youth. No matter how much you may have changed, the digital proof of your past views/behavior will always be widely accessible and successfully exploitable by your adversaries. If you were ever captured being ignorant, hateful, or lewdly sexual (images or otherwise), you have no chance at becoming president or any other major position in your country's government. No matter how much you've changed or what you've learned, the people will not accept you. CMV: People who have high hopes for their country and how they can help their brothers and sisters should give up if they have ever gravely blundered on record in the past. edit: spelling
t3_1n0gjc
I think the term “Western World” is mostly meaningless. CMV.
In all kinds of disciplines, the term “the Western World” is more or less axiomatic. It surprises me that people are so willing to use this term uncritically, especially in modern times. Obviously in any such division of the planet there will be edge cases along the borders (“Is Tibet part of China?” “Is Turkey part of Europe?”, etc.) Those are not the kinds of questions I’m talking about. I’m talking about the fundamental utility of the term “The Western World.” First of all, what is it? Europe and North America? Europe and the Americas? What about Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, which are highly European, culturally, because of imperialism? Is Russia part of the West? Russia and Germany didn’t get along so hot. Why do we speak about the Western World when both World Wars tore Europe apart? And what is “The West” supposed to be opposed to? The South? The East? Everything but the South and the East? How about religion? Okay, the Judeo-Christian trunk of religions can be the defining factor. Oh wait, there is a comparable number of Buddhists in the US to the numbers in South Korea, which is now overwhelmingly Christian. Does South Korea count as “Western”? I have not been able to convince myself of a single cultural trait that defines the “Western World.”
I think the term “Western World” is mostly meaningless. CMV. In all kinds of disciplines, the term “the Western World” is more or less axiomatic. It surprises me that people are so willing to use this term uncritically, especially in modern times. Obviously in any such division of the planet there will be edge cases along the borders (“Is Tibet part of China?” “Is Turkey part of Europe?”, etc.) Those are not the kinds of questions I’m talking about. I’m talking about the fundamental utility of the term “The Western World.” First of all, what is it? Europe and North America? Europe and the Americas? What about Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, which are highly European, culturally, because of imperialism? Is Russia part of the West? Russia and Germany didn’t get along so hot. Why do we speak about the Western World when both World Wars tore Europe apart? And what is “The West” supposed to be opposed to? The South? The East? Everything but the South and the East? How about religion? Okay, the Judeo-Christian trunk of religions can be the defining factor. Oh wait, there is a comparable number of Buddhists in the US to the numbers in South Korea, which is now overwhelmingly Christian. Does South Korea count as “Western”? I have not been able to convince myself of a single cultural trait that defines the “Western World.”
t3_228c3e
CMV: A hetero couple does not provide significantly more for a child (in raising a child) than a gay couple.
When comparing a wonderful gay couple with a child to a wonderful hetero couple with a child, I believe that the child doesn't get anything significant from the hetero couple that they wouldn't get from a gay couple. I believe this because of people that I know, and know of, that were raised by gay couples and turned out fine. Zach Wahls is a perfect example of this. He was raised by two mothers and is a gay marriage activist. He gave a speech before the Iowa state judiciary committee that went viral in opposition to an amendment to ban gay marriage
CMV: A hetero couple does not provide significantly more for a child (in raising a child) than a gay couple. When comparing a wonderful gay couple with a child to a wonderful hetero couple with a child, I believe that the child doesn't get anything significant from the hetero couple that they wouldn't get from a gay couple. I believe this because of people that I know, and know of, that were raised by gay couples and turned out fine. Zach Wahls is a perfect example of this. He was raised by two mothers and is a gay marriage activist. He gave a speech before the Iowa state judiciary committee that went viral in opposition to an amendment to ban gay marriage
t3_67visw
CMV: God is a bad theory to explain life and the universe
First I want to point out that I'm not claiming to know that there is no God. I identify as an agnostic atheist, "agnostic" meaning that I think it's not possible to know whether there's a god or not and "atheist" (nontheist) because I personally don't believe in God. I also need to define God properly, because some people tend to define almost anything as "God". In this context I'll define God as: omnipotent, supreme being and creator of everything. All that being said, here are my views: Theists usually have two common arguments in their attempt to rationalize their belief in God, A) The universe must have come from somewhere. B) Something can't come out of nothing so it needs a creator. However this is where I think they've already contradicted themselves: Where did God come from? If you answer nothing then why couldn't the universe come out of nothing by itself, why do we need God? If you say God always existed, then why couldn't universe or parts of it always exist, why do we need God? The idea of omnipotent God also comes with its own paradoxes. Classic paradox is this: If God is all powerful then can he create a stone even he can't lift? If he can create such stone but can't lift it he's by definition not omnipotent and if he can't create such stone he's also not omnipotent. To me the concept of God opens up massive logical problems and even more questions than it tries to answer in the first place. This is why I consider it a self-refuting idea and very poor theory to explain the origin of everything. _____ > *This is a footnote from the CMV moderators. We'd like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: God is a bad theory to explain life and the universe. First I want to point out that I'm not claiming to know that there is no God. I identify as an agnostic atheist, "agnostic" meaning that I think it's not possible to know whether there's a god or not and "atheist" (nontheist) because I personally don't believe in God. I also need to define God properly, because some people tend to define almost anything as "God". In this context I'll define God as: omnipotent, supreme being and creator of everything. All that being said, here are my views: Theists usually have two common arguments in their attempt to rationalize their belief in God, A) The universe must have come from somewhere. B) Something can't come out of nothing so it needs a creator. However this is where I think they've already contradicted themselves: Where did God come from? If you answer nothing then why couldn't the universe come out of nothing by itself, why do we need God? If you say God always existed, then why couldn't universe or parts of it always exist, why do we need God? The idea of omnipotent God also comes with its own paradoxes. Classic paradox is this: If God is all powerful then can he create a stone even he can't lift? If he can create such stone but can't lift it he's by definition not omnipotent and if he can't create such stone he's also not omnipotent. To me the concept of God opens up massive logical problems and even more questions than it tries to answer in the first place. This is why I consider it a self-refuting idea and very poor theory to explain the origin of everything.
t3_2ycxlz
CMV: I should run for president, based upon my non existent political career and desire to fix things for the middle class.
Like I said, I have no experience in politics- but, I'm a middle class man with a wife and family, I'm a veteran, I work 40+ hours a week to pay my rent, I have an Associates degree from my local community college and I really don't think there's a rich person in this country who gets it. I have no firm policies except to 1. Prevent the wealthy corporations from having welfare dependant 40+ hour employees 2. Eliminate the abuse of government assistance 3. Create a viable 2 year civil service program for post high school and those seeking to become American citizens 4. Stop wasting money on the "War on Drugs" 5. Have regular interactive conversations with the citizens via REAL news sources (Like The Daily Show or Colbert Report) Maybe I'm just daydreaming, but I still think I could make a positive impact. Edit: words
CMV: I should run for president, based upon my non existent political career and desire to fix things for the middle class. Like I said, I have no experience in politics- but, I'm a middle class man with a wife and family, I'm a veteran, I work 40+ hours a week to pay my rent, I have an Associates degree from my local community college and I really don't think there's a rich person in this country who gets it. I have no firm policies except to 1. Prevent the wealthy corporations from having welfare dependant 40+ hour employees 2. Eliminate the abuse of government assistance 3. Create a viable 2 year civil service program for post high school and those seeking to become American citizens 4. Stop wasting money on the "War on Drugs" 5. Have regular interactive conversations with the citizens via REAL news sources (Like The Daily Show or Colbert Report) Maybe I'm just daydreaming, but I still think I could make a positive impact. Edit: words
t3_2hgb4m
CMV: People who give away their pets because they found a non-pet friendly apartment are selfish.
It bothers me when people I know have to find a new place for their pet because they're moving to a new apartment or have a new living arrangement which doesn't allow pets. I find this really frustrating and I normally keep it to myself because I don't want to act "above it all", but why choose a place that doesn't allow pets when you have a pet? You wouldn't abandon your own child because it was no longer convenient to you so why an animal? I have an even worse opinion of them if after not finding the pet a new home, they bring it to a shelter. Yet I do sort of understand since my city is terrible for finding pet friendly apartments, but I wouldn't think of giving away my cat or bringing her to a shelter just so I could live somewhere better. The reason I actually have my cat is because a friend (who isn't my friend anymore, different reason though) was moving in with a guy and couldn't bring her cat with. I know another chick who was showing me pictures of a dog she once had but had to give away and I honestly felt like saying to her, "you didn't love your dog". I'm glad I didn't since she's actually a sweet person. Maybe I'm the terrible person.. I don't know. I don't like being so judgmental, so maybe someone can change my view. I understand that some people don't like animals as much as me, but why be a pet owner then. edit: this edit is important, obviously if there wasn't a pet-friendly apartment available and your only option was to give away animal or be homeless then that would be a different story and I would completely understand. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: People who give away their pets because they found a non-pet friendly apartment are selfish. It bothers me when people I know have to find a new place for their pet because they're moving to a new apartment or have a new living arrangement which doesn't allow pets. I find this really frustrating and I normally keep it to myself because I don't want to act "above it all", but why choose a place that doesn't allow pets when you have a pet? You wouldn't abandon your own child because it was no longer convenient to you so why an animal? I have an even worse opinion of them if after not finding the pet a new home, they bring it to a shelter. Yet I do sort of understand since my city is terrible for finding pet friendly apartments, but I wouldn't think of giving away my cat or bringing her to a shelter just so I could live somewhere better. The reason I actually have my cat is because a friend (who isn't my friend anymore, different reason though) was moving in with a guy and couldn't bring her cat with. I know another chick who was showing me pictures of a dog she once had but had to give away and I honestly felt like saying to her, "you didn't love your dog". I'm glad I didn't since she's actually a sweet person. Maybe I'm the terrible person.. I don't know. I don't like being so judgmental, so maybe someone can change my view. I understand that some people don't like animals as much as me, but why be a pet owner then. edit: this edit is important, obviously if there wasn't a pet-friendly apartment available and your only option was to give away animal or be homeless then that would be a different story and I would completely understand.
t3_1ulc17
I think the "if it's open it grows" image in the /r/changemyview sidebar (only on a comments page) is quite creepy. CMV
NB: before you mods delete this as a joke, please note that 1) I honestly do mean it and 2) it doesn't break any of the rules. Thanks. *** The image in question is `keepopen2` in the stylesheet if I am not mistaken. It's a shrub. Growing out of a guy's head. A shrub. Growing out of a guy's head. He has no scalp. It's just flat. And he's... *smiling*. It's grotesque and mortifying. And look at his facial expression! He's smiling! But the crazy shape of his mouth coupled with his over-accentuated eyebrows might tell another story. He is no longer himself. He's been taken over by the shrub, and the "emotion" he expresses is in fact one final cry for help before all is forsaken. Please reddit, please change my view. Right now I am really freaked out by what I see and I would love to carry on with my life without that image ever appearing again. I don't want to disable CSS. Convince me it's not creepy. And what's that growing out of his ear?
I think the "if it's open it grows" image in the /r/changemyview sidebar (only on a comments page) is quite creepy. CMV. NB: before you mods delete this as a joke, please note that 1) I honestly do mean it and 2) it doesn't break any of the rules. Thanks. *** The image in question is `keepopen2` in the stylesheet if I am not mistaken. It's a shrub. Growing out of a guy's head. A shrub. Growing out of a guy's head. He has no scalp. It's just flat. And he's... *smiling*. It's grotesque and mortifying. And look at his facial expression! He's smiling! But the crazy shape of his mouth coupled with his over-accentuated eyebrows might tell another story. He is no longer himself. He's been taken over by the shrub, and the "emotion" he expresses is in fact one final cry for help before all is forsaken. Please reddit, please change my view. Right now I am really freaked out by what I see and I would love to carry on with my life without that image ever appearing again. I don't want to disable CSS. Convince me it's not creepy. And what's that growing out of his ear?
t3_1eanzd
I think Animal Crossing is a shallow time-wasting series with boring gameplay and superficial interactions, unworthy of its popularity and praise. CMV
I want to like Animal Crossing, but i just don't get it. The gameplay is really boring. And the rewards for playing don't seem worth it now that you don't get free NES games for completing activities. And the game seems to not have barely changed over many iterations. Why is Animal Crossing a worldwide juggernaut of a franchise spanning so many platforms and games?
I think Animal Crossing is a shallow time-wasting series with boring gameplay and superficial interactions, unworthy of its popularity and praise. CMV. I want to like Animal Crossing, but i just don't get it. The gameplay is really boring. And the rewards for playing don't seem worth it now that you don't get free NES games for completing activities. And the game seems to not have barely changed over many iterations. Why is Animal Crossing a worldwide juggernaut of a franchise spanning so many platforms and games?
t3_3srwbt
CMV: France has been at war with IS for over a year now. Attacks on Paris should be expected as a consequence.
1. The attacts were terrorist. There was no conceivable military objective in attacking those places. The people killed were civilians, so IMO there could not be a justification for the attacks. 2. I don't know if France has committed terrorism in Syria, but I'm not sure it's important anyway. 3. It's not known who was behind the attacks yet, but France and IS are both saying that it was IS, so I'm going along with that explanation for the sake of argument. If a state goes to war it should anticipate retaliations (including terrorist ones). France should be taking responsibility for protecting its citizens during wartime. And when attacks succeed, France should not act shocked or affronted. This is a consequence of engage in a war, and France has failed to defend its people in a war of its own making. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: France has been at war with IS for over a year now. Attacks on Paris should be expected as a consequence. 1. The attacts were terrorist. There was no conceivable military objective in attacking those places. The people killed were civilians, so IMO there could not be a justification for the attacks. 2. I don't know if France has committed terrorism in Syria, but I'm not sure it's important anyway. 3. It's not known who was behind the attacks yet, but France and IS are both saying that it was IS, so I'm going along with that explanation for the sake of argument. If a state goes to war it should anticipate retaliations (including terrorist ones). France should be taking responsibility for protecting its citizens during wartime. And when attacks succeed, France should not act shocked or affronted. This is a consequence of engage in a war, and France has failed to defend its people in a war of its own making.
t3_3fanmc
CMV:Due to global commerce and countries making tons of money off of each other's imports and exports, we will not see another World War (unless there is a global market collapse).
Barring a global market collapse where countries can no longer exchange goods between each other, our global economy is a strong insulator from another World War. For example, trade ties are too strong with China for them to throw away all the money they make off of the US and European countries to join sides with a country like North Korea. Today's world is often cited as one of the most peaceful times in human history. A lot of that is due to global trade, easy travel and shipping between countries, and the ease of communication via the internet. Are there other avenues in which a true World War would be possible? CMV. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV:Due to global commerce and countries making tons of money off of each other's imports and exports, we will not see another World War (unless there is a global market collapse). Barring a global market collapse where countries can no longer exchange goods between each other, our global economy is a strong insulator from another World War. For example, trade ties are too strong with China for them to throw away all the money they make off of the US and European countries to join sides with a country like North Korea. Today's world is often cited as one of the most peaceful times in human history. A lot of that is due to global trade, easy travel and shipping between countries, and the ease of communication via the internet. Are there other avenues in which a true World War would be possible? CMV.
t3_2198cs
We have a objective purpose in life. CMV
1. Opinions are not equal: There will ultimately be an opinion that considers more knowledge and involves more critical thinking, therefore objectively better. 2. Therefore, life based on a subjective view may not be objectively the best one, and life founded on opinions that includes the most knowledge is the best one. 4. Thus, our objective in life is to be as knowledgeable as we can. example My opinion on how to run a triangle offense in basketball is objectively worse than Phil Jackson, the 11 time champion who specializes in the triangle offense. Therefore his opinion is objectively better. In parallel My opinion on how to live life is objectively worse than someone who has more knowledge about life, therefore his opinion on how to live life is objectively better, and that i should listen to him without question.
We have a objective purpose in life. CMV. 1. Opinions are not equal: There will ultimately be an opinion that considers more knowledge and involves more critical thinking, therefore objectively better. 2. Therefore, life based on a subjective view may not be objectively the best one, and life founded on opinions that includes the most knowledge is the best one. 4. Thus, our objective in life is to be as knowledgeable as we can. example My opinion on how to run a triangle offense in basketball is objectively worse than Phil Jackson, the 11 time champion who specializes in the triangle offense. Therefore his opinion is objectively better. In parallel My opinion on how to live life is objectively worse than someone who has more knowledge about life, therefore his opinion on how to live life is objectively better, and that i should listen to him without question.
t3_27dizq
CMV - It's arrogant and irresponsible to travel to dangerous parts of the world for pleasure...read article for reference
I'm actually more specifically speaking to this situation in the article below: http://m.citynews.ca/2014/06/04/videos-show-canadian-american-couple-held-in-afghanistan/ So, this couple went travelling to Afghanistan and decided they would journey through the mountains...CMV that not only do they have no right to ask to be rescued (which I'm also aware the Taliban likely made them do it) but by travelling to areas of the world like that and intentionally going to the very places you read about being where groups hide out or train or even live, you are a) an idiot and b) do not deserve to be rescued. They are compromising the integrity of the nations security and putting their families through a ridiculous amount of unnecessary stress and pain simply because of their arrogance...and in this case they've now put their baby in extreme danger. I don't want this to turn into a conversation about Bergdahl, that's a completely different scenario than what I am referring to, but simply that people who travel to areas like this for the sake of entertainment and enjoyment (not work) are taking the risk that things like this can and will happen and they have no right to ask to be saved. "Oh I'm going to go on this incredibly dangerous trip, but if I get caught; you can expect me to expect you to rescue us" No, sorry, it doesn't work like that.
CMV - It's arrogant and irresponsible to travel to dangerous parts of the world for pleasure...read article for reference. I'm actually more specifically speaking to this situation in the article below: http://m.citynews.ca/2014/06/04/videos-show-canadian-american-couple-held-in-afghanistan/ So, this couple went travelling to Afghanistan and decided they would journey through the mountains...CMV that not only do they have no right to ask to be rescued (which I'm also aware the Taliban likely made them do it) but by travelling to areas of the world like that and intentionally going to the very places you read about being where groups hide out or train or even live, you are a) an idiot and b) do not deserve to be rescued. They are compromising the integrity of the nations security and putting their families through a ridiculous amount of unnecessary stress and pain simply because of their arrogance...and in this case they've now put their baby in extreme danger. I don't want this to turn into a conversation about Bergdahl, that's a completely different scenario than what I am referring to, but simply that people who travel to areas like this for the sake of entertainment and enjoyment (not work) are taking the risk that things like this can and will happen and they have no right to ask to be saved. "Oh I'm going to go on this incredibly dangerous trip, but if I get caught; you can expect me to expect you to rescue us" No, sorry, it doesn't work like that.
t3_6sxj3e
CMV: The US should outlaw all political party affiliation and force people to run strictly on the issues
We're at a weird position in the United States where things are falling exactly down party lines. it's becoming a war of advertising and spamming by fake stories designed to elicit visceral responses. eliminating parties would do a great deal to alleviate these issues. there would be less of a drive to get "your" team into congress and more of a drive to get people that actually represent your values and ideals rather than a vague on specifics but solid on buzz words party line.   political parties made sense at a time when it was difficult and cumbersome to get your platform out there. but that is no longer the case.   i'm a registered member of one of the two main parties in the US and while i've voted for the "other" party in the past it's becoming increasingly more and more difficult to justify voting for anyone from the other party. i'm sure i'm not alone.   i fear we're heading toward a bad situation if we keep going this way.   **clarification**: this does not mean automatically getting rid of the 1st amendment. the amendment doesn't explicitly allow for political parties. assembly doesn't automatically mean party affiliation. it's also not getting rid of representative democracy. the people would simply have to vote on a candidate's individual issues rather than a simple party logo.   I'm seeing a lot of "this will be hard" and "people will just form political parties anyway" and "we've always done this" but i don't see any real justification for keeping political parties. nothing that would change my view yet.   also, i don't have any idea really how to make this happen today. it won't be easy that's for sure. but that's beyond the scope of this post.   I'm getting tired of the same old slippery slope you'll have to abolish the first amendment argument. it won't change my view and i will no longer be replying to someone who simply states that same argument again and again. You're welcome to discuss it without me but i've made my view on it clear. the point of htis post is assuming it can be done (without getting rid of free speech entirely - and there's no indication it can't) should it be done.   change my view _____ > *This is a footnote from the CMV moderators. We'd like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: The US should outlaw all political party affiliation and force people to run strictly on the issues. We're at a weird position in the United States where things are falling exactly down party lines. it's becoming a war of advertising and spamming by fake stories designed to elicit visceral responses. eliminating parties would do a great deal to alleviate these issues. there would be less of a drive to get "your" team into congress and more of a drive to get people that actually represent your values and ideals rather than a vague on specifics but solid on buzz words party line.   political parties made sense at a time when it was difficult and cumbersome to get your platform out there. but that is no longer the case.   i'm a registered member of one of the two main parties in the US and while i've voted for the "other" party in the past it's becoming increasingly more and more difficult to justify voting for anyone from the other party. i'm sure i'm not alone.   i fear we're heading toward a bad situation if we keep going this way.   **clarification**: this does not mean automatically getting rid of the 1st amendment. the amendment doesn't explicitly allow for political parties. assembly doesn't automatically mean party affiliation. it's also not getting rid of representative democracy. the people would simply have to vote on a candidate's individual issues rather than a simple party logo.   I'm seeing a lot of "this will be hard" and "people will just form political parties anyway" and "we've always done this" but i don't see any real justification for keeping political parties. nothing that would change my view yet.   also, i don't have any idea really how to make this happen today. it won't be easy that's for sure. but that's beyond the scope of this post.   I'm getting tired of the same old slippery slope you'll have to abolish the first amendment argument. it won't change my view and i will no longer be replying to someone who simply states that same argument again and again. You're welcome to discuss it without me but i've made my view on it clear. the point of htis post is assuming it can be done (without getting rid of free speech entirely - and there's no indication it can't) should it be done.   change my view
t3_1i63fk
I don't believe in god, CMV.
I don't believe anything supernatural exists. I believe that if a being more powerful than humanity exists, or anything else we don't understand happens, then it is part of reality, and therefore natural. I also think it's ridiculous to believe that a being powerful enough to create our universe, god or not, imaginary or not, cares about the individual lives of human beings any more than I care about whether or not a particular lichen has committed sin. I believe my most fundamental goals and motivations are necessarily irrational and instinctual, but that I can most effectively pursue those goals in a rational manner. I believe the phenomenon we call reality is worth studying under the assumption we haven't learned all we're capable of understanding. I believe religion and faith are excuses to give up on the study of reality. I believe faith can be useful to an individual(depending on the goal) and that a church can be beneficial to a community. But I believe the concentration of power in large religious organizations is harmful to the interests of the average person.
I don't believe in god, CMV. I don't believe anything supernatural exists. I believe that if a being more powerful than humanity exists, or anything else we don't understand happens, then it is part of reality, and therefore natural. I also think it's ridiculous to believe that a being powerful enough to create our universe, god or not, imaginary or not, cares about the individual lives of human beings any more than I care about whether or not a particular lichen has committed sin. I believe my most fundamental goals and motivations are necessarily irrational and instinctual, but that I can most effectively pursue those goals in a rational manner. I believe the phenomenon we call reality is worth studying under the assumption we haven't learned all we're capable of understanding. I believe religion and faith are excuses to give up on the study of reality. I believe faith can be useful to an individual(depending on the goal) and that a church can be beneficial to a community. But I believe the concentration of power in large religious organizations is harmful to the interests of the average person.
t3_34iql8
CMV: Grooveshark was blatantly breaking the law and it's good that they got shut down
It's pretty simple. Grooveshark was distributing and making money off of other people's music without paying the appropriate royalties. The employees and founders of the company uploaded music themselves, bypassing the DMCA provision against user-uploaded content. There’s no way to argue that what they were doing was legal. They had years since their first lawsuit in 2011 to pay up, but they didn't. Doesn't seem like they even made an attempt. At least the Pirate Bay is honest about their intentions. Streaming services are cheaper than ever and nowadays there's no excuse to pirate your music. $10 per month is totally reasonable for unlimited access to all the music you want _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Grooveshark was blatantly breaking the law and it's good that they got shut down. It's pretty simple. Grooveshark was distributing and making money off of other people's music without paying the appropriate royalties. The employees and founders of the company uploaded music themselves, bypassing the DMCA provision against user-uploaded content. There’s no way to argue that what they were doing was legal. They had years since their first lawsuit in 2011 to pay up, but they didn't. Doesn't seem like they even made an attempt. At least the Pirate Bay is honest about their intentions. Streaming services are cheaper than ever and nowadays there's no excuse to pirate your music. $10 per month is totally reasonable for unlimited access to all the music you want
t3_1j6cur
I believe getting food stamps in college is justifiable for students who could instead buy food with loans. CMV.
I'm going to a four year institution next year where my family and I will, by the end of my university tenure, end up taking out approximately $90,000 in loans after interest. I feel comfortable paying back the money but feel as if receiving food stamps is justifiable because of the sheer cost I will incur during my education process. I come from a middle class family that earns what it does because my parents moved to the suburbs to raise a family near decent schools. Because the cost of attending college has grown enormously compared to inflation, wages, et cetera, I feel as if receiving food stamps to the tune of four to five thousand dollars over four years is justifiable because state and national legislatures have no recourse for people making decent livings to allow their students to attend good colleges without taking out a crippling amount of loans. CMV.
I believe getting food stamps in college is justifiable for students who could instead buy food with loans. CMV. I'm going to a four year institution next year where my family and I will, by the end of my university tenure, end up taking out approximately $90,000 in loans after interest. I feel comfortable paying back the money but feel as if receiving food stamps is justifiable because of the sheer cost I will incur during my education process. I come from a middle class family that earns what it does because my parents moved to the suburbs to raise a family near decent schools. Because the cost of attending college has grown enormously compared to inflation, wages, et cetera, I feel as if receiving food stamps to the tune of four to five thousand dollars over four years is justifiable because state and national legislatures have no recourse for people making decent livings to allow their students to attend good colleges without taking out a crippling amount of loans. CMV.
t3_21z87o
CMV: Today is a lovely day in Dallas, and I saw we ride with the top down.
I mean come on, the people love me, I can't wave to my constituents from a window. I have this awesome motorcade to protect me, and I have to worry about voters to impress. Plus Jackie got all dolled out, and it would be a shame for the public not to see her. Its not like I have any enemies, or anything. 0 percent chance of rain. I say we ride with the top down. I mean, there are no strong winds - things would be much different if there were strong winds. What is this car, a Lincoln? See, a great president riding in a car named after a great president. We probably will have so much in common by the time I leave office. Plus, you know, I'm in charge. -JFK. _____ > *Hello, people of the past. This is a footnote from the moderators of this 'internet forum'. I'm afraid to say that some wannabe scientist, while looking into time travel, has caused a temporal distortion field. It should dissipate in the next 24 hours. In the mean time, feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)*** *about a view you hold while you're visiting the present, and remember to have a look through* ***[our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***.
CMV: Today is a lovely day in Dallas, and I saw we ride with the top down. I mean come on, the people love me, I can't wave to my constituents from a window. I have this awesome motorcade to protect me, and I have to worry about voters to impress. Plus Jackie got all dolled out, and it would be a shame for the public not to see her. Its not like I have any enemies, or anything. 0 percent chance of rain. I say we ride with the top down. I mean, there are no strong winds - things would be much different if there were strong winds. What is this car, a Lincoln? See, a great president riding in a car named after a great president. We probably will have so much in common by the time I leave office. Plus, you know, I'm in charge. -JFK.
t3_49cyzl
CMV: A victim holds a certain amount of responsibility for their own victimization
Legally I agree that the victim is the victim is the victim. Meaning no matter how avoidable the crime was, the person who committed the crime should always bear full responsibility. Whether the crime is violent, petty, or anywhere in between. im not arguing against a victims legal rights. I do however judge how much sympathy a victim deserves on how easily their victimization could have been prevented if they thought ahead. I know this is treading 'victim blaming', but hear me out. If my buddy told me his car got jacked, my level of sympathy for him would be pretty high. But if he expanded on his story and told me it was stolen when he left the keys in the ignition and the doors unlocked while he went grocery shopping, suddenly I would feel much less sympathy for him. Obviously the thief is the bad guy. He shouldnt have stolen that car, and deserves the appropriate sentence for it. But this hypothetical friend of mine would be partially to blame for his own victimization. Yes we SHOULD live in a society where we dont have to expect the worst from people. But we do live in a society where its our responsibility to take bad people into consideration. It sucks, but thats just a fact. Can someone change my view?
CMV: A victim holds a certain amount of responsibility for their own victimization. Legally I agree that the victim is the victim is the victim. Meaning no matter how avoidable the crime was, the person who committed the crime should always bear full responsibility. Whether the crime is violent, petty, or anywhere in between. im not arguing against a victims legal rights. I do however judge how much sympathy a victim deserves on how easily their victimization could have been prevented if they thought ahead. I know this is treading 'victim blaming', but hear me out. If my buddy told me his car got jacked, my level of sympathy for him would be pretty high. But if he expanded on his story and told me it was stolen when he left the keys in the ignition and the doors unlocked while he went grocery shopping, suddenly I would feel much less sympathy for him. Obviously the thief is the bad guy. He shouldnt have stolen that car, and deserves the appropriate sentence for it. But this hypothetical friend of mine would be partially to blame for his own victimization. Yes we SHOULD live in a society where we dont have to expect the worst from people. But we do live in a society where its our responsibility to take bad people into consideration. It sucks, but thats just a fact. Can someone change my view?
t3_2c7nkn
CMV: Definitive statements should be taken as hyperbole, instead of literally, and you're a pedant for correcting them.
Okay look. We *all* know that you don't *actually* mean *all* trees are made of wood. Every definitive statement is a colloquialism, and not a tautology. Except there's *always* some random jerk who will chime in and correct you when you use words like "never" or "always". They're *never* helpful either. It's a plague on CMV too. Someone makes a statement like "CMV: Cops are corrupt." And it *never* fails that someone points out that they met a guy whose cousin was a cop who pulled over another cop for blowing a red light. And it's *always* tedious to have to qualify *every* definitive statement you *ever* make. Yes, we *all* get it that definitive statements are *always* inherently false. We *all* understand that they're rules of thumb instead of laws. I mean, without the sarcastic italics, *all* of these definitive statements, if taken as generalizations and hyperbole, would be fine. You're about as helpful as a grammar Nazi. CMV: You're not enriching a conversation by correcting a definitive statement.
CMV: Definitive statements should be taken as hyperbole, instead of literally, and you're a pedant for correcting them. Okay look. We *all* know that you don't *actually* mean *all* trees are made of wood. Every definitive statement is a colloquialism, and not a tautology. Except there's *always* some random jerk who will chime in and correct you when you use words like "never" or "always". They're *never* helpful either. It's a plague on CMV too. Someone makes a statement like "CMV: Cops are corrupt." And it *never* fails that someone points out that they met a guy whose cousin was a cop who pulled over another cop for blowing a red light. And it's *always* tedious to have to qualify *every* definitive statement you *ever* make. Yes, we *all* get it that definitive statements are *always* inherently false. We *all* understand that they're rules of thumb instead of laws. I mean, without the sarcastic italics, *all* of these definitive statements, if taken as generalizations and hyperbole, would be fine. You're about as helpful as a grammar Nazi. CMV: You're not enriching a conversation by correcting a definitive statement.
t3_35eca7
CMV: Telling children they are "special" is unnecessary and potentially harmful and should be replaced with teaching them skills like empathy and the value of hard work
Kids already naturally feel "special" and essentially narcissistic, so it's redundant to tell them they are special. That would plant a seed that could lead to entitlement or arrogance. "I've always been told I'm special, so it's ok if I just spend all day on my phone instead of being social." Wouldn't it be much more valuable to inundate them with the value of empathy and hard work? Also special implies that the child is greater than the average, and that just isn't true for everybody, à la the point from The Incredibles, if everyone is special, then nobody is. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Telling children they are "special" is unnecessary and potentially harmful and should be replaced with teaching them skills like empathy and the value of hard work. Kids already naturally feel "special" and essentially narcissistic, so it's redundant to tell them they are special. That would plant a seed that could lead to entitlement or arrogance. "I've always been told I'm special, so it's ok if I just spend all day on my phone instead of being social." Wouldn't it be much more valuable to inundate them with the value of empathy and hard work? Also special implies that the child is greater than the average, and that just isn't true for everybody, à la the point from The Incredibles, if everyone is special, then nobody is.
t3_24xi33
CMV: I believe that there are only two genders and three possible sexual orientations.
I believe that a person can only be male or female and can only be heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual. I also believe that if a person wants to change genders or believes that they were born into the wrong gender then they have the right to do so. I've recently heard of Facebook allowing over 30 possible gender options and I think that doesn't make any sense what so ever. How can people be anything other than male or female? I don't know if I'm the only sane person in a world filling with perverts and/or young people confused with their own sexuality and want to make us go out of our way to change our existing ideas of sexuality just so they can feel happy or just a bigot unaware of some sort of change. try to CMV please. > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: I believe that there are only two genders and three possible sexual orientations. I believe that a person can only be male or female and can only be heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual. I also believe that if a person wants to change genders or believes that they were born into the wrong gender then they have the right to do so. I've recently heard of Facebook allowing over 30 possible gender options and I think that doesn't make any sense what so ever. How can people be anything other than male or female? I don't know if I'm the only sane person in a world filling with perverts and/or young people confused with their own sexuality and want to make us go out of our way to change our existing ideas of sexuality just so they can feel happy or just a bigot unaware of some sort of change. try to CMV please. > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
t3_3z5hul
CMV: Insider trading on stocks should not be illegal
The stock market is meant to reflect the value of a company- it's potential to grow/ profit/ make money for its shareholders/ etc.. The people best placed to provide this information (company employees, the first people to find out if a fancy drug trial went bust, if a new prototype of a product is working, etc.) are by in large prohibited from buying/selling company stock because of insider trading laws. This leads to a failure (in the narrow sense of the word) in the stock market as prices of a given stock does not adequately reflect the actual value and potential of a given company. So outlawing insider trading is a bad idea. Some sources on the issue: http://www.cnbc.com/id/100917279 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-insider-trading-should-be-legal-2011-05-17 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/07/26/insider-trading-makes-us-richer-better-informed-and-could-prevent-corporate-scandals-legalize-it/ Many many people seem to look at insider trading as an absolutely abhorrent and evil action, yet the only justification I've been given for this feeling is that its evil because its illegal (circular reasoning is circular!). Edit: \u\Thamanizer and \u\MontiBurns have succeeded. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Insider trading on stocks should not be illegal. The stock market is meant to reflect the value of a company- it's potential to grow/ profit/ make money for its shareholders/ etc.. The people best placed to provide this information (company employees, the first people to find out if a fancy drug trial went bust, if a new prototype of a product is working, etc.) are by in large prohibited from buying/selling company stock because of insider trading laws. This leads to a failure (in the narrow sense of the word) in the stock market as prices of a given stock does not adequately reflect the actual value and potential of a given company. So outlawing insider trading is a bad idea. Some sources on the issue: http://www.cnbc.com/id/100917279 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-insider-trading-should-be-legal-2011-05-17 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/07/26/insider-trading-makes-us-richer-better-informed-and-could-prevent-corporate-scandals-legalize-it/ Many many people seem to look at insider trading as an absolutely abhorrent and evil action, yet the only justification I've been given for this feeling is that its evil because its illegal (circular reasoning is circular!). Edit: \u\Thamanizer and \u\MontiBurns have succeeded.
t3_2891yb
CMV: Professional athletes are paid too much
Professional athletes are paid waaaay too much money for what they do. For instance, NBA players make tens of millions of dollars a year for what? Because they can throw a ball into a hoop. Don't get me wrong, I understand they're good at what they do...I'm not undermining their skill level or anything, but the basic concept remains the same. These guys aren't slaving away in a lab somewhere trying to develop a cure for a disease, they aren't developing new technology, and they aren't furthering the development of our country/world. So why do they make multi-millions(not counting endorsements, etc)...I honestly don't understand it. "But OP, they sacrifice so much" -So do people in the military, law enforcement, scientists Someone please explain this to me _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Professional athletes are paid too much. Professional athletes are paid waaaay too much money for what they do. For instance, NBA players make tens of millions of dollars a year for what? Because they can throw a ball into a hoop. Don't get me wrong, I understand they're good at what they do...I'm not undermining their skill level or anything, but the basic concept remains the same. These guys aren't slaving away in a lab somewhere trying to develop a cure for a disease, they aren't developing new technology, and they aren't furthering the development of our country/world. So why do they make multi-millions(not counting endorsements, etc)...I honestly don't understand it. "But OP, they sacrifice so much" -So do people in the military, law enforcement, scientists Someone please explain this to me
t3_5c05a6
CMV As a Muslim, Trump is much better for me in Long term.
- First off, I don't live in US, and I don't care what fascist dictator does to US people or South Americans that lives there. - Last night, Before I go to bed, When I thought off The Worst case scenario, i thought to Myself Hillary and Putin could start another world war. Which is way worse than anything This idiot can do. - Trump has good relationship with leaders of many secular Muslim majority country, I don't see He is gonna try to stop peoples from Turkey, Malaysia or Indonesia visiting/living in US. But He is gonna Syrian, Afghanis and Iraqis immigrating to US. I don't see (and btw I am Turk), There is many of these people who actually tries to immigrate to US compare to EU. Since Those who wanna immigrate isn't a lot of people, Germany/Turkey etc isn't bad place until they go back. - Since Franklin Roosevelt, All foreign policy of US was horrible and it made World such a piece of shit that it is Today. USSR was founded based on Ideas and Utopia. US fought with USSR with help of Cia and US navy(which was horiable idea), Cold war was US's fault. US should have stayed isolationist after WW2. US foreign policy always remind me of a clumsy Giant. You might intend to do good but it creates mke problem. All of US interventions after WW2 created more problem than it solved. Afghanistan war, Iraqi-Syrian civil wars, Algerian civil war all has Tribal roots, US peoples(including Redditors) doesn't have any idea of real reasons of these wars and US policy makes it worse for Middle eastern peoples. You just need to take your gear and go back to your home. - Isolationist US is better for Me (And Rest of the World) and Triumph wants that.
CMV As a Muslim, Trump is much better for me in Long term. - First off, I don't live in US, and I don't care what fascist dictator does to US people or South Americans that lives there. - Last night, Before I go to bed, When I thought off The Worst case scenario, i thought to Myself Hillary and Putin could start another world war. Which is way worse than anything This idiot can do. - Trump has good relationship with leaders of many secular Muslim majority country, I don't see He is gonna try to stop peoples from Turkey, Malaysia or Indonesia visiting/living in US. But He is gonna Syrian, Afghanis and Iraqis immigrating to US. I don't see (and btw I am Turk), There is many of these people who actually tries to immigrate to US compare to EU. Since Those who wanna immigrate isn't a lot of people, Germany/Turkey etc isn't bad place until they go back. - Since Franklin Roosevelt, All foreign policy of US was horrible and it made World such a piece of shit that it is Today. USSR was founded based on Ideas and Utopia. US fought with USSR with help of Cia and US navy(which was horiable idea), Cold war was US's fault. US should have stayed isolationist after WW2. US foreign policy always remind me of a clumsy Giant. You might intend to do good but it creates mke problem. All of US interventions after WW2 created more problem than it solved. Afghanistan war, Iraqi-Syrian civil wars, Algerian civil war all has Tribal roots, US peoples(including Redditors) doesn't have any idea of real reasons of these wars and US policy makes it worse for Middle eastern peoples. You just need to take your gear and go back to your home. - Isolationist US is better for Me (And Rest of the World) and Triumph wants that.
t3_3uh23h
CMV: Supporting Assad in the Syrian civil war is in the interests of Europe
The [Syrian civil war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War) started in 2011 as part of the "Arab Spring" uprisings when Sunni rebels backed by the US, Turkey and Gulf States sought to overthrow the governmnent of Bashar al-Assad, who is backed by Iran and Russia. In almost five years of fighting, hundred of thousands people were killed, millions became refugees, hundred of thousands of them going to Europe. In the resulting power void, rebels and al-Qaeda elements created the Islamic State, which controls a territory of ten million people which it rules with absolute brutality and has now started to carry out terror attacks even in Europe, like the recent Paris attack. The US, Turkey and Gulf states, while formally committed to fight against the ISIS, do very little against it in practice, and in fact the government of Turkey and various Arab countries are believed to either directly fund and arm the ISIS or at least look the other way while elements of their countries do it. They still haven't renounced their goal of overthrowing Assad, as evidenced by the recent downing of the Russian fighter jet by the Turkish air-force. Assad is a dictator who has committed war crimes such as using chemical weapons against his population. But under his rule Syria was a functional state which didn't constitute a security threat and large migration source to Europe. And as bad as he was for his citizen, he was certainly much better than the ISIS. Therefore, I believe that it is in the national interests of European countries, in addition to interests of the Syrian people, to support Assad's government and therefore to join forces with Russia and Iran in order to restore its control over Syria, at least for the time being. In the long term it may be desirable for Europe to support a process that leads to the democratization of Syria, but this has to happen in a time of peace and stability, not amidst a bloody civil war with a refugee and security crisis that affects Europe. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Supporting Assad in the Syrian civil war is in the interests of Europe. The [Syrian civil war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War) started in 2011 as part of the "Arab Spring" uprisings when Sunni rebels backed by the US, Turkey and Gulf States sought to overthrow the governmnent of Bashar al-Assad, who is backed by Iran and Russia. In almost five years of fighting, hundred of thousands people were killed, millions became refugees, hundred of thousands of them going to Europe. In the resulting power void, rebels and al-Qaeda elements created the Islamic State, which controls a territory of ten million people which it rules with absolute brutality and has now started to carry out terror attacks even in Europe, like the recent Paris attack. The US, Turkey and Gulf states, while formally committed to fight against the ISIS, do very little against it in practice, and in fact the government of Turkey and various Arab countries are believed to either directly fund and arm the ISIS or at least look the other way while elements of their countries do it. They still haven't renounced their goal of overthrowing Assad, as evidenced by the recent downing of the Russian fighter jet by the Turkish air-force. Assad is a dictator who has committed war crimes such as using chemical weapons against his population. But under his rule Syria was a functional state which didn't constitute a security threat and large migration source to Europe. And as bad as he was for his citizen, he was certainly much better than the ISIS. Therefore, I believe that it is in the national interests of European countries, in addition to interests of the Syrian people, to support Assad's government and therefore to join forces with Russia and Iran in order to restore its control over Syria, at least for the time being. In the long term it may be desirable for Europe to support a process that leads to the democratization of Syria, but this has to happen in a time of peace and stability, not amidst a bloody civil war with a refugee and security crisis that affects Europe.
t3_1bodtx
I don't think it's wrong for a girl to be slutty and promiscuous provided that she practises safe sex and birth control. CMV
I don't see why women that have lots of sex (usually not with the same person) are looked down upon. Sex is something that all enjoy and that can be simply practiced for pleasure. As long as she or her partner use a condom,and she isn't cheating / sleeping with a person already in a relationship, I really don't see the problem.
I don't think it's wrong for a girl to be slutty and promiscuous provided that she practises safe sex and birth control. CMV. I don't see why women that have lots of sex (usually not with the same person) are looked down upon. Sex is something that all enjoy and that can be simply practiced for pleasure. As long as she or her partner use a condom,and she isn't cheating / sleeping with a person already in a relationship, I really don't see the problem.
t3_71rjt1
CMV:As a boss, if you allow dress down Fridays, there is no good reason you can't allow your employees to dress down every day.
I've worked in office buildings before as a programmer, stuck in the back, where no client will ever see me. Yet, we are still required to dress business casual. I've heard it said that if you dress better, you'll perform better. Which I believe is absolute crap. But this CMV isn't about that. Now, I'm not saying that there should be no dress code at all. I'm saying that you shouldn't have a stricter dress code for Mon-Thurs and a different code for Fri. I'm also not saying that there might not be special occasions that you would require your employees to dress up. Perhaps the big client is coming in to tour and you need to present a more professional front. Fine. CMV _____ > *This is a footnote from the CMV moderators. We'd like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV:As a boss, if you allow dress down Fridays, there is no good reason you can't allow your employees to dress down every day. I've worked in office buildings before as a programmer, stuck in the back, where no client will ever see me. Yet, we are still required to dress business casual. I've heard it said that if you dress better, you'll perform better. Which I believe is absolute crap. But this CMV isn't about that. Now, I'm not saying that there should be no dress code at all. I'm saying that you shouldn't have a stricter dress code for Mon-Thurs and a different code for Fri. I'm also not saying that there might not be special occasions that you would require your employees to dress up. Perhaps the big client is coming in to tour and you need to present a more professional front. Fine. CMV
t3_1wbzdt
I'm a bleeding heart vegan, and I want to start carrying a concealed weapon. CMV.
Long time lurker here. I currently live in one of the biggest cities in the United States, and I am seriously considering getting a concealed carry permit so I can become trained and carry. I believe I will be much safer. However, I am in no way a conservative and am well aware of the dangers of gun violence. I have read books and articles on the topic, but I can't shake the idea that having a gun will make me feel safer in my day-to-day life. It doesn't help that I am a 5'0" female who weighs so little that I don't think I'll be able to donate blood at any point in my life.
I'm a bleeding heart vegan, and I want to start carrying a concealed weapon. CMV. Long time lurker here. I currently live in one of the biggest cities in the United States, and I am seriously considering getting a concealed carry permit so I can become trained and carry. I believe I will be much safer. However, I am in no way a conservative and am well aware of the dangers of gun violence. I have read books and articles on the topic, but I can't shake the idea that having a gun will make me feel safer in my day-to-day life. It doesn't help that I am a 5'0" female who weighs so little that I don't think I'll be able to donate blood at any point in my life.
t3_2vsx6s
CMV: Saturday Morning Cartoons lead to adults who view violence as a solution
Hi Everyone (Crowd: "Hi Doctor Nick!") Hope everyone got that joke. I actually created an account so I could post this, so please be gentle. I would like to start out by clarifying a few things that I suspect will come into the discussion. First, I am not trying to tie in a debate about violent video games with this discussion. I am solely interested in talking about violent cartoons. This is because I think that cartoons are primarily viewed by children, whereas video games have a broad age range. The second is that I do not believe that cartoons are solely responsible for creating the adults who view violence as a solution, but perhaps are a contributor that most people don't think about. My view is simply this: I have come to realize that the majority of cartoons, and other shows that children watch, often portray a role model, such as a super hero, who solves problems primarily by enacting violence against another person. I believe that this leads to those children growing up to be more open to seeing violence as a solution. Meaning that these people will see war as being a solution, as opposed to diplomacy, empathy, and compromise with others. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Saturday Morning Cartoons lead to adults who view violence as a solution. Hi Everyone (Crowd: "Hi Doctor Nick!") Hope everyone got that joke. I actually created an account so I could post this, so please be gentle. I would like to start out by clarifying a few things that I suspect will come into the discussion. First, I am not trying to tie in a debate about violent video games with this discussion. I am solely interested in talking about violent cartoons. This is because I think that cartoons are primarily viewed by children, whereas video games have a broad age range. The second is that I do not believe that cartoons are solely responsible for creating the adults who view violence as a solution, but perhaps are a contributor that most people don't think about. My view is simply this: I have come to realize that the majority of cartoons, and other shows that children watch, often portray a role model, such as a super hero, who solves problems primarily by enacting violence against another person. I believe that this leads to those children growing up to be more open to seeing violence as a solution. Meaning that these people will see war as being a solution, as opposed to diplomacy, empathy, and compromise with others.
t3_1fb24p
I think it's stupid how fouls are encouraged in the last minutes of basketball. CMV
My idea on the subject is simple. In the last minute of basketball teams are purposely trying to make fouls so they can stop the clock or try to regain possession of the ball more quickly, but since a foul is something done that is against the rules of the game, I think it's pretty stupid to encourage the breaking of the rules as a strategy.
I think it's stupid how fouls are encouraged in the last minutes of basketball. CMV. My idea on the subject is simple. In the last minute of basketball teams are purposely trying to make fouls so they can stop the clock or try to regain possession of the ball more quickly, but since a foul is something done that is against the rules of the game, I think it's pretty stupid to encourage the breaking of the rules as a strategy.
t3_2vuhqi
CMV: Bill Nye should not be a respected as a leader of the scientific community
I know most people who are actually apart of and contribute to the scientific community tend not to believe this, but a lot of people seem to put him on the same level as people like Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Personally, I'm really not a huge fan of either so I'm not saying this because I have anything against Bill Nye. And really they're pretty much the same, except actually they're not the same because of one thing. One teensy weensy thing, Bill Nye is not a scientist. He doesn't even have a degree in a scientific field! His only degree is a bachelors in mechanical engineering, which I know is stem but that still doesnt make him a scientist. I'm not sure if it's something I'm missing or maybe there really arent many who believe this. But really though, is he anything other than a "celebrity"? I mean how can you seriously call yourself a scientist when your only known for teaching kids about basic science? _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Bill Nye should not be a respected as a leader of the scientific community. I know most people who are actually apart of and contribute to the scientific community tend not to believe this, but a lot of people seem to put him on the same level as people like Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Personally, I'm really not a huge fan of either so I'm not saying this because I have anything against Bill Nye. And really they're pretty much the same, except actually they're not the same because of one thing. One teensy weensy thing, Bill Nye is not a scientist. He doesn't even have a degree in a scientific field! His only degree is a bachelors in mechanical engineering, which I know is stem but that still doesnt make him a scientist. I'm not sure if it's something I'm missing or maybe there really arent many who believe this. But really though, is he anything other than a "celebrity"? I mean how can you seriously call yourself a scientist when your only known for teaching kids about basic science?
t3_2oz233
CMV: I'm glad that Pirate Bay was brought down. I see no moral justification for piracy of modern movies and games.
The most upvoted comments concerning Pirate Bay always hold it to some impossible level of importance. It comes across as people thinking that piracy is justified because big studios charge too much money for their goods. I understand that Piracy can force the market to adapt in order to lower prices or allow for easier access, and this leads to the birth of Steam or Netflix. What I don't understand are the people that hold it as some sort of right to have access to anything and everything at no charge simply because they have an internet connection. There is no situation where I would illegally download a move that was just released in theaters (or before it was released). That is flat out stealing, and harms the industry as a whole. There is also no situation where I would pirate a recently released game for the same reason. Further, the argument of "They don't deserve my money" that people always throw around concerning the likes of Ubisoft or EA is an incredibly idiotic argument to justify piracy. If there is a product by a company you want to consume then purchase it. I don't agree with the human rights violations that happen in China or Bangladesh, but that doesn't mean I'm justified to steal the products produced there in lieu of boycotting them. I feel like I should add as an addendum that there is one situation where I have thought it was justified to pirate a movie, and would have if I had been able to. My father was bedridden while fighting Lung Cancer and wanted to see the second Hobbit. There was no way he could have sat through it at the theater, and we knew he wouldn't be around long enough for a DVD release. That is such an extreme case though, that I hard think that it can be used as a justification for the existence of the Pirate Bay. Edit: Discovered that we're having car problems this morning (x2) so I may not be around to respond for a couple hours, but I will! Edit 2: Also glad that every comment I make, though being substantive and contributing to discussion, is getting downvoted. Read [redditquette](http://www.reddit.com/wiki/reddiquette), the side bar, hover over, and footnote included on every CMV op... _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: I'm glad that Pirate Bay was brought down. I see no moral justification for piracy of modern movies and games. The most upvoted comments concerning Pirate Bay always hold it to some impossible level of importance. It comes across as people thinking that piracy is justified because big studios charge too much money for their goods. I understand that Piracy can force the market to adapt in order to lower prices or allow for easier access, and this leads to the birth of Steam or Netflix. What I don't understand are the people that hold it as some sort of right to have access to anything and everything at no charge simply because they have an internet connection. There is no situation where I would illegally download a move that was just released in theaters (or before it was released). That is flat out stealing, and harms the industry as a whole. There is also no situation where I would pirate a recently released game for the same reason. Further, the argument of "They don't deserve my money" that people always throw around concerning the likes of Ubisoft or EA is an incredibly idiotic argument to justify piracy. If there is a product by a company you want to consume then purchase it. I don't agree with the human rights violations that happen in China or Bangladesh, but that doesn't mean I'm justified to steal the products produced there in lieu of boycotting them. I feel like I should add as an addendum that there is one situation where I have thought it was justified to pirate a movie, and would have if I had been able to. My father was bedridden while fighting Lung Cancer and wanted to see the second Hobbit. There was no way he could have sat through it at the theater, and we knew he wouldn't be around long enough for a DVD release. That is such an extreme case though, that I hard think that it can be used as a justification for the existence of the Pirate Bay. Edit: Discovered that we're having car problems this morning (x2) so I may not be around to respond for a couple hours, but I will! Edit 2: Also glad that every comment I make, though being substantive and contributing to discussion, is getting downvoted. Read [redditquette](http://www.reddit.com/wiki/reddiquette), the side bar, hover over, and footnote included on every CMV op...
t3_6k2d96
CMV: Parents, when taking young children to a place for the first time, should explain what place is FOR and what behavior is appropriate for that space.
Virtually everywhere we go we go to for a reason particular to that place: we go to restaurants to eat, we go to libraries to get books, we go to store to buy things, we go to parks to play. They are not all the same place, and parents would do their kids a huge favor over the long term by simply explaining, when going to someplace new, WHY they are there and WHAT they can do there. Even very young children are able to understand this simple concept, and to not explain this to them causes them to not see the world as it really is, doing the children (and the parents) a disservice in the long run. > *This is a footnote from the CMV moderators. We'd like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Parents, when taking young children to a place for the first time, should explain what place is FOR and what behavior is appropriate for that space. Virtually everywhere we go we go to for a reason particular to that place: we go to restaurants to eat, we go to libraries to get books, we go to store to buy things, we go to parks to play. They are not all the same place, and parents would do their kids a huge favor over the long term by simply explaining, when going to someplace new, WHY they are there and WHAT they can do there. Even very young children are able to understand this simple concept, and to not explain this to them causes them to not see the world as it really is, doing the children (and the parents) a disservice in the long run. > *This is a footnote from the CMV moderators. We'd like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
t3_4w0lqc
CMV: Pure mathematics is (intended as) an artistic pursuit devoid of benefit to human welfare
I would prefer that argumentative responses come from users with personal experience in mathematics. As I see it, pure mathematicians (meaning, those who engage [temporarily or permanently] in mathematics without direct application to exigent problems in society) are more akin to artists than they are to technical specialists. They devote their lives to studying esoteric subjects for their inherent beauty (*), or perhaps in application to other more beautiful pure mathematics. Pragmatically, I think my point is best demonstrated by example. Looking at (*), we have results like [Godel's incompleteness theorems](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems), an amalgamation of abstruse theorems without (afaik) any real or imaginable application to any other human pursuit (except possibly philosophy) outside the specialized field of logic to which it belongs—and this, despite the fact that it remains one of the most celebrated results among mathematicians, myself included. But it's not just cornerstone or exceptional theorems that are utilitarian dead-ends: [The](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext_functor) [daily](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_number#Odd_perfect_numbers) [bread](https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-of-the-major-open-problems-in-category-theory) [and](http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/36319/how-to-prove-that-mathbb-r-omega-with-the-box-topology-is-completely-regular) [water](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set) [of](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_earring) [a](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicable_numbers) [pure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_problem) [mathematician](http://mathoverflow.net/questions/51853/what-is-the-state-of-our-ignorance-about-the-normality-of-pi) [is](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_hypothesis) [always](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier%E2%80%93Stokes_existence_and_smoothness) [like](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrous_moonshine) [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_Galois_problem). Some of the links I provided are not like the others, I'll admit; some, like the Riemann hypothesis and the Navier-Stokes existence problem, directly concern (e.g.) cryptography and fluid mechanics. But in many respects the mathematics is still "useless," or at least intended as such. A proof or disproof of the Riemann hypothesis isn't necessarily going to affect _any_ cryptographic protocols, and neither is the outcome of Navier-Stokes going to necessarily (afaik) change the formulas that engineers have found useful for decades now. As for the link about monstrous moonshine, which is primarily about a serendipitous marriage of group theory with complex analysis, but also indicates applications to/from string theory and quantum gravity (if we are to take physics as having inalienable potential technological application), I would have to argue that the researchers involved with these problems have only ever seen application as an after sight—they would not be disappointed if their work never came to practical fruition. A common counterargument: Welfare-advancing physics/engineering/technology cannot advance without speculative mathematics: > "If we hadn't cultivated the exact sciences for themselves, we wouldn't have created the instrument of mathematics, and the day when would have arrived the rallying call of the physicist, we would have been disarmed" (Henri Poincaré, _Science and Method_). I suppose I'm open to this line of argument, but it still seems completely contrary to how pure mathematicians _intend_ their work, and why the vast majority of (profound, even) mathematics collects dust, never to feed a starving child, build a sturdier bridge, or fabricate more efficient integrated circuits. To be clear, I am a student of mathematics who is more than anything looking forward to a career in "abstruse nonsense," should one be available to me. But it seems that all the way I am having to combat societal expectations of "what I do," and whether pure mathematics as such should be federally subsidized and/or educationally mandated (but that's a CMV for another time). _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Pure mathematics is (intended as) an artistic pursuit devoid of benefit to human welfare. I would prefer that argumentative responses come from users with personal experience in mathematics. As I see it, pure mathematicians (meaning, those who engage [temporarily or permanently] in mathematics without direct application to exigent problems in society) are more akin to artists than they are to technical specialists. They devote their lives to studying esoteric subjects for their inherent beauty (*), or perhaps in application to other more beautiful pure mathematics. Pragmatically, I think my point is best demonstrated by example. Looking at (*), we have results like [Godel's incompleteness theorems](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems), an amalgamation of abstruse theorems without (afaik) any real or imaginable application to any other human pursuit (except possibly philosophy) outside the specialized field of logic to which it belongs—and this, despite the fact that it remains one of the most celebrated results among mathematicians, myself included. But it's not just cornerstone or exceptional theorems that are utilitarian dead-ends: [The](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext_functor) [daily](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_number#Odd_perfect_numbers) [bread](https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-of-the-major-open-problems-in-category-theory) [and](http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/36319/how-to-prove-that-mathbb-r-omega-with-the-box-topology-is-completely-regular) [water](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set) [of](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_earring) [a](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicable_numbers) [pure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_problem) [mathematician](http://mathoverflow.net/questions/51853/what-is-the-state-of-our-ignorance-about-the-normality-of-pi) [is](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_hypothesis) [always](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier%E2%80%93Stokes_existence_and_smoothness) [like](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrous_moonshine) [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_Galois_problem). Some of the links I provided are not like the others, I'll admit; some, like the Riemann hypothesis and the Navier-Stokes existence problem, directly concern (e.g.) cryptography and fluid mechanics. But in many respects the mathematics is still "useless," or at least intended as such. A proof or disproof of the Riemann hypothesis isn't necessarily going to affect _any_ cryptographic protocols, and neither is the outcome of Navier-Stokes going to necessarily (afaik) change the formulas that engineers have found useful for decades now. As for the link about monstrous moonshine, which is primarily about a serendipitous marriage of group theory with complex analysis, but also indicates applications to/from string theory and quantum gravity (if we are to take physics as having inalienable potential technological application), I would have to argue that the researchers involved with these problems have only ever seen application as an after sight—they would not be disappointed if their work never came to practical fruition. A common counterargument: Welfare-advancing physics/engineering/technology cannot advance without speculative mathematics: > "If we hadn't cultivated the exact sciences for themselves, we wouldn't have created the instrument of mathematics, and the day when would have arrived the rallying call of the physicist, we would have been disarmed" (Henri Poincaré, _Science and Method_). I suppose I'm open to this line of argument, but it still seems completely contrary to how pure mathematicians _intend_ their work, and why the vast majority of (profound, even) mathematics collects dust, never to feed a starving child, build a sturdier bridge, or fabricate more efficient integrated circuits. To be clear, I am a student of mathematics who is more than anything looking forward to a career in "abstruse nonsense," should one be available to me. But it seems that all the way I am having to combat societal expectations of "what I do," and whether pure mathematics as such should be federally subsidized and/or educationally mandated (but that's a CMV for another time).
t3_3eqgol
CMV:The 'Hispanic Question', not racism against blacks, is the most important racial issue for the USA
I am a bit surprised that Donald Trump and a certain fringe wing of conservatives are still going on about Americans of Hispanic and/or Latino ethnicity. I thought by now Americans would have realized that as Gaul was to Rome, the Hispanic ethnicity is to the United States. I feel like the immigration reform/acculturation issue of Hispanics illogically gets second fiddle billing in the United States behind racism against blacks re: the police. There is a not insignificant proportion of the population that feels racism against African-Americans is largely self-inflicted by their disproportionate violent crime rate and anti-white attitudes, but racism against Hispanics makes literally no sense whatsoever. There is no logical explanation for it period. We need to address it ASAP. I feel *every* issue of racism or whatever is completely irrelevant compared to the urgency that we need to open the doors to Hispanic America. Consider: **Hispanics are the fastest growing minority group in the United States. They are also the largest minority group, with 50 million today.** **Hispanics are a significant proportion of the population of the biggest American states, including California, Texas, New York, Florida, and the entire Southwest.** **Hispanics have the highest percentage of new small businesses being opened. This indicates they are assimilating, working to better themselves, and throwing their weight around economically.** **Hispanics culturally tend to have strong family values. This seems compatible with "mainstream" American culture.** **Hispanics, as studies show, are virtually completely assimilated by the third generation, following acculturation trends of other immigrant groups such as the Irish, Chinese, Italians, Japanese, etc.** **The United States forcibly and immorally annexed land from Mexico 150 years ago. I am not advocating irredentism obviously, but many Hispanics' descendants found themselves on the wrong side of the border through no fault of their own, and became full U.S citizens. Punking these citizens is morally wrong.** **The United States has close ties with Mexico, Central America, and South America. These are booming regions. ** **Even "illegal" immigrants fill economic niches not otherwise filled by "legal" immigrants or citizens. They help the economy without siphoning off jobs that would go to "legal" citizens. Many of them pay taxes.** **Hispanics are projected to be 25% of the population by 2050.** I feel strongly that taking an antagonistic attitude against this minority group is not just morally wrong, it is economically counterproductive and demographically suicidal in the longterm. With the aging white population, it is very likely that a population that has a Hispanic plurality will be taking America into the deeper decades of the 21st century. Again, I do not understand why people sweep aside reconciling racist White America with the future demographic plurality (and immigration reform) in favor of frankly horse that have been beaten to death. With that in mind, I feel there should be : - stronger social taboos against discrimination or stereotyping of Hispanics - that Spanish should be added as a required subject in K-12 education throughout the nation, - that official cultural grants and initiatives should be granted ala Japan's "Cool Japan" or Korea's "Hallyu" initiatives to encourage the cultural growth of the Hispanic-American market and industry, - that Spanish should be added as the de facto second official language of the United States ** _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV:The 'Hispanic Question', not racism against blacks, is the most important racial issue for the USA. I am a bit surprised that Donald Trump and a certain fringe wing of conservatives are still going on about Americans of Hispanic and/or Latino ethnicity. I thought by now Americans would have realized that as Gaul was to Rome, the Hispanic ethnicity is to the United States. I feel like the immigration reform/acculturation issue of Hispanics illogically gets second fiddle billing in the United States behind racism against blacks re: the police. There is a not insignificant proportion of the population that feels racism against African-Americans is largely self-inflicted by their disproportionate violent crime rate and anti-white attitudes, but racism against Hispanics makes literally no sense whatsoever. There is no logical explanation for it period. We need to address it ASAP. I feel *every* issue of racism or whatever is completely irrelevant compared to the urgency that we need to open the doors to Hispanic America. Consider: **Hispanics are the fastest growing minority group in the United States. They are also the largest minority group, with 50 million today.** **Hispanics are a significant proportion of the population of the biggest American states, including California, Texas, New York, Florida, and the entire Southwest.** **Hispanics have the highest percentage of new small businesses being opened. This indicates they are assimilating, working to better themselves, and throwing their weight around economically.** **Hispanics culturally tend to have strong family values. This seems compatible with "mainstream" American culture.** **Hispanics, as studies show, are virtually completely assimilated by the third generation, following acculturation trends of other immigrant groups such as the Irish, Chinese, Italians, Japanese, etc.** **The United States forcibly and immorally annexed land from Mexico 150 years ago. I am not advocating irredentism obviously, but many Hispanics' descendants found themselves on the wrong side of the border through no fault of their own, and became full U.S citizens. Punking these citizens is morally wrong.** **The United States has close ties with Mexico, Central America, and South America. These are booming regions. ** **Even "illegal" immigrants fill economic niches not otherwise filled by "legal" immigrants or citizens. They help the economy without siphoning off jobs that would go to "legal" citizens. Many of them pay taxes.** **Hispanics are projected to be 25% of the population by 2050.** I feel strongly that taking an antagonistic attitude against this minority group is not just morally wrong, it is economically counterproductive and demographically suicidal in the longterm. With the aging white population, it is very likely that a population that has a Hispanic plurality will be taking America into the deeper decades of the 21st century. Again, I do not understand why people sweep aside reconciling racist White America with the future demographic plurality (and immigration reform) in favor of frankly horse that have been beaten to death. With that in mind, I feel there should be : - stronger social taboos against discrimination or stereotyping of Hispanics - that Spanish should be added as a required subject in K-12 education throughout the nation, - that official cultural grants and initiatives should be granted ala Japan's "Cool Japan" or Korea's "Hallyu" initiatives to encourage the cultural growth of the Hispanic-American market and industry, - that Spanish should be added as the de facto second official language of the United States **
t3_1jzif3
I've realized for years that most people in general are inherently just bad, negative beings, to the point I am becoming downright misanthropic. Please, please, please CMV
I hate feeling this way. I truly do. I want to think people are inherently good and positive, but I get proven time, time, and time again how dead fracking wrong I am to give that benefit of the doubt in the real world. Here’s one major way I measure positive traits like goodness, honesty, and overall goodwill: How someone acts when put into an anonymous environment with little or no reward received for doing good things. This could be traffic. This could be at a supermarket. This could be a sports event. This could be an online game. This could be Reddit. Any number of the countless situations we are in each day. I like to think the way one acts in these situations, is their “default” behavior since they don’t put on a mask or an act to save face. And that default behavior usually is quite sad. **Take Reddit.** Ever notice how people are so damn quick to downvote someone to hell compared to how quick they are to upvote someone for meaningful content? Also the whole “I downvote you because I disagree with you or don’t like your tone!” thought process is absurd, but apparently the norm. It is my conclusion that the majority of Reddit users are incredibly quicker to downvote or not vote at all, than they are to upvote. Anecdotal perhaps, but I doubt I am wrong. **Traffic:** Just because you don’t know that guy in the Toyota over there, shouldn’t be seen as a license to be a dick to him if it suits your fancy. You know that guy you cut off with your car this morning? Or the one you blared your horn at just because he wasn’t going as fast as you thought he should? Would you have done that if it were your SO or best friend driving that car? Of course not. But since you don’t know “that jerk” it’s fair game right? He can go to hell for all you care. Right right? This is what I’m talking about. **Customer service:** Okay, so company xyz overcharged you for something and you feel screwed over. Fair enough. Stuff happens. But why do you feel that means you get to treat that customer service associate like he is pure garbage? What did he do to you? This behavior is all incredibly too common. And waiting tables: I’ve never waited tables, but I’ve seen customers treat their server like they ran over their dog or something, all because the kitchen put onions on your burger. Really? Isn’t life too short to be so hung up on unimportant things? People seem to only be nice when they feel like they either have something to gain from it, or to avoid looking bad in front of people they know. The moment you let them be their default-selves, or even the most minor inconvenience happens, they are horrible human beings. And to this day, I have very very little reason to believe it is going to ever get better. Please for the love of God, change my view. **TL;DR: The title sums it up pretty well** Edit: Sorry for the wall of text. Also I got better replies so far that I expected. Going home for now but will check in later!
I've realized for years that most people in general are inherently just bad, negative beings, to the point I am becoming downright misanthropic. Please, please, please CMV. I hate feeling this way. I truly do. I want to think people are inherently good and positive, but I get proven time, time, and time again how dead fracking wrong I am to give that benefit of the doubt in the real world. Here’s one major way I measure positive traits like goodness, honesty, and overall goodwill: How someone acts when put into an anonymous environment with little or no reward received for doing good things. This could be traffic. This could be at a supermarket. This could be a sports event. This could be an online game. This could be Reddit. Any number of the countless situations we are in each day. I like to think the way one acts in these situations, is their “default” behavior since they don’t put on a mask or an act to save face. And that default behavior usually is quite sad. **Take Reddit.** Ever notice how people are so damn quick to downvote someone to hell compared to how quick they are to upvote someone for meaningful content? Also the whole “I downvote you because I disagree with you or don’t like your tone!” thought process is absurd, but apparently the norm. It is my conclusion that the majority of Reddit users are incredibly quicker to downvote or not vote at all, than they are to upvote. Anecdotal perhaps, but I doubt I am wrong. **Traffic:** Just because you don’t know that guy in the Toyota over there, shouldn’t be seen as a license to be a dick to him if it suits your fancy. You know that guy you cut off with your car this morning? Or the one you blared your horn at just because he wasn’t going as fast as you thought he should? Would you have done that if it were your SO or best friend driving that car? Of course not. But since you don’t know “that jerk” it’s fair game right? He can go to hell for all you care. Right right? This is what I’m talking about. **Customer service:** Okay, so company xyz overcharged you for something and you feel screwed over. Fair enough. Stuff happens. But why do you feel that means you get to treat that customer service associate like he is pure garbage? What did he do to you? This behavior is all incredibly too common. And waiting tables: I’ve never waited tables, but I’ve seen customers treat their server like they ran over their dog or something, all because the kitchen put onions on your burger. Really? Isn’t life too short to be so hung up on unimportant things? People seem to only be nice when they feel like they either have something to gain from it, or to avoid looking bad in front of people they know. The moment you let them be their default-selves, or even the most minor inconvenience happens, they are horrible human beings. And to this day, I have very very little reason to believe it is going to ever get better. Please for the love of God, change my view. **TL;DR: The title sums it up pretty well** Edit: Sorry for the wall of text. Also I got better replies so far that I expected. Going home for now but will check in later!
t3_6svhia
CMV: If you can't parallel park, you shouldn't be allowed to drive
I fully understand parallel parking is not something you do every day and there are many people who have gone their lives without ever needed to do so. It absolutely blows my mind how many people can't parallel park. Countless times I've been in the car as a passenger and we had to pass the perfect parking space because the driver wasn't confident enough. Likewise, I walk downtown a lot and people struggle so much to parallel park. Being able to parallel park is understanding the fundamentals of how a car maneuvers. It requires the driver to understand the path of the tires and how all corners of the car follow a similar path. While parallel parking isn't all that important, the ability to do so translates into the driver's confidence and skills while driving at high speeds or making quick lane changes driving in the city. As a passenger, all of my friends capable of parallel parking are better, more confident drivers and I feel much safer with them. I worry when my SO drives - she can't parallel park and she's afraid to change lanes - I worry for her safety when she drives and I'm afraid of similar drivers on the road hitting me.
CMV: If you can't parallel park, you shouldn't be allowed to drive. I fully understand parallel parking is not something you do every day and there are many people who have gone their lives without ever needed to do so. It absolutely blows my mind how many people can't parallel park. Countless times I've been in the car as a passenger and we had to pass the perfect parking space because the driver wasn't confident enough. Likewise, I walk downtown a lot and people struggle so much to parallel park. Being able to parallel park is understanding the fundamentals of how a car maneuvers. It requires the driver to understand the path of the tires and how all corners of the car follow a similar path. While parallel parking isn't all that important, the ability to do so translates into the driver's confidence and skills while driving at high speeds or making quick lane changes driving in the city. As a passenger, all of my friends capable of parallel parking are better, more confident drivers and I feel much safer with them. I worry when my SO drives - she can't parallel park and she's afraid to change lanes - I worry for her safety when she drives and I'm afraid of similar drivers on the road hitting me.
t3_3hv7hu
CMV: Rapidly recharging health bars make first person shooters less enjoyable.
To clarify: I am talking specifically about campaigns. Health that restores quickly makes sense in multiplayer, as it allows each engagement to be somewhat fresh. For this reason, I mostly emulate N64 shooters and don't play most modern shooters with any frequency or consistency. As such, I am certain that my perspective is limited, and would like to see why at this point essentially all shooters have rapidly recharging (RR) health as opposed to Long-Term (LT) health. I am currently watching a friend play Halo 4, and he is reasonably frustrated by his inability to beat a specific part of the campaign. His checkpoint is about 3 minutes from when he usually dies, and he ends up redoing the same part constantly. Eventually he succeeds at that segment with minimal feeling of accomplishment, making it to a checkpoint where the process is repeated. Then he ends up spending another 10-25 minutes on that 3 minute segment, reliving the same fights and hearing the same speech pods. This seems unfun to me. In contrast, playing a game with LT health means that the segments are around 12 minutes long. I remember spending a long time over several days trying to beat Perfect Dark's level "Carrington Institute: Defense." It was neither boring nor frustrating, because with each attempt I played about 12 minutes of unique gameplay and something different happened or I learned something with essentially every attempt until I reached success. Success eventually came with an exceptionally good run that lasted the lenght of the level, nailing all the parts that needed to be nailed in one go rather than piecemail, one at a time until I got to a checkpoint. This success carried a large feeling of accomplishment with it, as a difficult challenge was met where I was staring down complex objectives and enemies with shields and high-powered weapons and was able to take about 2 solid hits before I died. By the time I was able to win, I had a very streamlined process that was precise and required high levels of skill. I felt like the Perfect Agent the game told me I was. This level of quality is unachievable with a RR health system, where hits are frequently taken and shrugged off in seconds. While Halo at least has in-universe Clarke's Third Law-esque justification, in games like Call of Duty there is the added huge drawback of crushing any sense of immersion in the game. I find it impossible to suspend disbelief through getting shot until I reach the very near to death stage and then being completely fine a second or two later. In contrast, the original Deus Ex had a beautiful system where arms and legs could be made useless by enough bullets until the player was able to heal or regenerate them. Obviously games will always require suspension of disbelief to achieve immersion, but in some settings RR health completely destroys all hope of a quality immersive experience. For primarily the reasons of length of game segment that is repeated, a more complete task leading to a greater feeling of accomplishment, and a more immersive experience, I believe that single-player first person shooters are most enjoyable without RR health. The fact that finding cover undoes all damage previously taken seems to hurt continuity and just feels lame. Since most games have gone to RR health means the majority of people likely disagree with me. So, CMV.
CMV: Rapidly recharging health bars make first person shooters less enjoyable. To clarify: I am talking specifically about campaigns. Health that restores quickly makes sense in multiplayer, as it allows each engagement to be somewhat fresh. For this reason, I mostly emulate N64 shooters and don't play most modern shooters with any frequency or consistency. As such, I am certain that my perspective is limited, and would like to see why at this point essentially all shooters have rapidly recharging (RR) health as opposed to Long-Term (LT) health. I am currently watching a friend play Halo 4, and he is reasonably frustrated by his inability to beat a specific part of the campaign. His checkpoint is about 3 minutes from when he usually dies, and he ends up redoing the same part constantly. Eventually he succeeds at that segment with minimal feeling of accomplishment, making it to a checkpoint where the process is repeated. Then he ends up spending another 10-25 minutes on that 3 minute segment, reliving the same fights and hearing the same speech pods. This seems unfun to me. In contrast, playing a game with LT health means that the segments are around 12 minutes long. I remember spending a long time over several days trying to beat Perfect Dark's level "Carrington Institute: Defense." It was neither boring nor frustrating, because with each attempt I played about 12 minutes of unique gameplay and something different happened or I learned something with essentially every attempt until I reached success. Success eventually came with an exceptionally good run that lasted the lenght of the level, nailing all the parts that needed to be nailed in one go rather than piecemail, one at a time until I got to a checkpoint. This success carried a large feeling of accomplishment with it, as a difficult challenge was met where I was staring down complex objectives and enemies with shields and high-powered weapons and was able to take about 2 solid hits before I died. By the time I was able to win, I had a very streamlined process that was precise and required high levels of skill. I felt like the Perfect Agent the game told me I was. This level of quality is unachievable with a RR health system, where hits are frequently taken and shrugged off in seconds. While Halo at least has in-universe Clarke's Third Law-esque justification, in games like Call of Duty there is the added huge drawback of crushing any sense of immersion in the game. I find it impossible to suspend disbelief through getting shot until I reach the very near to death stage and then being completely fine a second or two later. In contrast, the original Deus Ex had a beautiful system where arms and legs could be made useless by enough bullets until the player was able to heal or regenerate them. Obviously games will always require suspension of disbelief to achieve immersion, but in some settings RR health completely destroys all hope of a quality immersive experience. For primarily the reasons of length of game segment that is repeated, a more complete task leading to a greater feeling of accomplishment, and a more immersive experience, I believe that single-player first person shooters are most enjoyable without RR health. The fact that finding cover undoes all damage previously taken seems to hurt continuity and just feels lame. Since most games have gone to RR health means the majority of people likely disagree with me. So, CMV.
t3_1xhe6s
I think that students who go on alternative spring breaks trips to help the less privileged are selfish. CMV
I recently attended an informational meeting about an alternative spring break trip to Peru to provide medical relief to the people of the city. I was really excited because I had finally found a program that provided follow-ups for there services, rather than just giving their patients one examination and leaving (which is what most medical mission trips do). Upon attending this meeting, I learned that the one-week trip would cost me $2000. It would take the average citizen of Lima [four months] (http://www.peruviantimes.com/16/average-monthly-salary-up-for-lima-workers-except-for-those-over-45-years-old/19168/) to accumulate that amount of money, and only a fractional amount of the $2000 I was paying would be going towards medical costs. The rest of the money covered the cost for the flight, room and board, and food. Why were all of the rest of the people so willing to spend such an extreme amount of money for this trip? They claimed they were excited for the experience that they were going to receive and that it looked good on job/graduate school applications. But these were all experiences that benefited themselves, not the people of Peru. Yes, they were going to be providing medical care, but if they really cared about providing medical care to those who need it, why couldn’t they go on an alternative spring break trip to Chicago for one quarter of the price and provide medical care to the underprivileged community there? At least more of the money that the students pay would be spent on medical supplies. Some people argue that they can gain better hands-on experience by volunteering in another country. But again, this benefits the student, not the patient. If college students are [not legally allowed to perform particular kinds of medical services] (https://chronicle.com/article/Overseas-Health-Programs-Let/142777/) in Chicago, then it should not be ethical to do it in another country either. If an individual is not trained to provide the kind of care they are attempting to provide, they can seriously hurt someone. The students who are going on alternative spring break trips are driven by motives that benefit themselves, not the underprivileged. If the students really cared about the medical treatment they were providing to people who could not afford it, they would be better off allocating their money in a way that did not provide them with a vacation in the process. Edit: I realize that even if the volunteers are acting in their own interests they can simultaneously be acting in the interests of others too. I am not trying to discount the impact of volunteering (for services that do not involve unqualified medical procedures). Thank you to all of those who volunteer.
I think that students who go on alternative spring breaks trips to help the less privileged are selfish. CMV. I recently attended an informational meeting about an alternative spring break trip to Peru to provide medical relief to the people of the city. I was really excited because I had finally found a program that provided follow-ups for there services, rather than just giving their patients one examination and leaving (which is what most medical mission trips do). Upon attending this meeting, I learned that the one-week trip would cost me $2000. It would take the average citizen of Lima [four months] (http://www.peruviantimes.com/16/average-monthly-salary-up-for-lima-workers-except-for-those-over-45-years-old/19168/) to accumulate that amount of money, and only a fractional amount of the $2000 I was paying would be going towards medical costs. The rest of the money covered the cost for the flight, room and board, and food. Why were all of the rest of the people so willing to spend such an extreme amount of money for this trip? They claimed they were excited for the experience that they were going to receive and that it looked good on job/graduate school applications. But these were all experiences that benefited themselves, not the people of Peru. Yes, they were going to be providing medical care, but if they really cared about providing medical care to those who need it, why couldn’t they go on an alternative spring break trip to Chicago for one quarter of the price and provide medical care to the underprivileged community there? At least more of the money that the students pay would be spent on medical supplies. Some people argue that they can gain better hands-on experience by volunteering in another country. But again, this benefits the student, not the patient. If college students are [not legally allowed to perform particular kinds of medical services] (https://chronicle.com/article/Overseas-Health-Programs-Let/142777/) in Chicago, then it should not be ethical to do it in another country either. If an individual is not trained to provide the kind of care they are attempting to provide, they can seriously hurt someone. The students who are going on alternative spring break trips are driven by motives that benefit themselves, not the underprivileged. If the students really cared about the medical treatment they were providing to people who could not afford it, they would be better off allocating their money in a way that did not provide them with a vacation in the process. Edit: I realize that even if the volunteers are acting in their own interests they can simultaneously be acting in the interests of others too. I am not trying to discount the impact of volunteering (for services that do not involve unqualified medical procedures). Thank you to all of those who volunteer.
t3_1q75h3
I think Lex and Terry give horrid advice, CMV.
Make no mistake, I listen to L&T on the way to work, and I generally enjoy the segments. Not on topic, I think they need to make sure the news segment is completed during the hour it airs (7am where I am) with as few calls as possible, I figure you've got plenty of time for that, I on the other hand cant catch up later... Anyway, my opinion is that they give horrid advice for people who seriously need better advice. They could get better advice here! And sometimes its not bad advice as much as pre-judgement of the situations, or just bad explanations. CMV
I think Lex and Terry give horrid advice, CMV. Make no mistake, I listen to L&T on the way to work, and I generally enjoy the segments. Not on topic, I think they need to make sure the news segment is completed during the hour it airs (7am where I am) with as few calls as possible, I figure you've got plenty of time for that, I on the other hand cant catch up later... Anyway, my opinion is that they give horrid advice for people who seriously need better advice. They could get better advice here! And sometimes its not bad advice as much as pre-judgement of the situations, or just bad explanations. CMV
t3_1oxu91
I think Breaking Bad is overrated for what it is. CMV.
**THERE WILL BE SPOILERS** All I saw in the show was the character development of Walter White and Jesse Pinkman through the show (which I thought was boring). Late Season 3 was boring. Late Season 3 just felt bland and the series just sort of started to feel like it was taking the typical formula of Walt and Jesse cooking at that point (like the whole show). The show could've ended in season 4 and season 5 didn't seem necessary. Then in season 5 we get Jesse going all lonestar cowboy about how he had a better idea than what Hank and Gomie had in mind to take out Walt which felt cheesy to me. The "I AM THE WHO KNOCKS" quote just didn't seem at all powerful to me. The acting didn't feel as clever as Mad Men for example (which brings up, why did Breaking Bad win the emmy instead of another show such as House of Cards, which I thought deserved the award more for what it was (Probably a CMV on that too)) What do people see in the show that I don't? NOTE: I'm not saying I disliked the show, I just think people overrate it for what it is.
I think Breaking Bad is overrated for what it is. CMV. **THERE WILL BE SPOILERS** All I saw in the show was the character development of Walter White and Jesse Pinkman through the show (which I thought was boring). Late Season 3 was boring. Late Season 3 just felt bland and the series just sort of started to feel like it was taking the typical formula of Walt and Jesse cooking at that point (like the whole show). The show could've ended in season 4 and season 5 didn't seem necessary. Then in season 5 we get Jesse going all lonestar cowboy about how he had a better idea than what Hank and Gomie had in mind to take out Walt which felt cheesy to me. The "I AM THE WHO KNOCKS" quote just didn't seem at all powerful to me. The acting didn't feel as clever as Mad Men for example (which brings up, why did Breaking Bad win the emmy instead of another show such as House of Cards, which I thought deserved the award more for what it was (Probably a CMV on that too)) What do people see in the show that I don't? NOTE: I'm not saying I disliked the show, I just think people overrate it for what it is.
t3_1rsoe7
I think that the idea that analyzing jokes is somehow misunderstanding them is ridiculous. CMV
So a few days ago I was on facebook and a not that great friend shared a post that was a joke that equated atheists thinking that religion is silly or not true is the equivalent to reindeer shunning different parts of the reindeer community. I responded by saying that I was not shunning religious practices so much as saying there was no evidence to support them thus there is no reason to believe them. My friend responded that the joke flew over my head because I analyzed it. Saying that I can not criticize parts of a joke without misunderstanding it is ridiculous. Think of a scenario where a person was telling a very racist joke that stereotyped a different race in a very offensive way that the joke teller was unaware of. Would it be missing the joke to point out this racism? Of course not. I could still understand the joke but still point out its horrifying implications. This had been bothering me as some of his friends also complained to me on exactly the same basis.
I think that the idea that analyzing jokes is somehow misunderstanding them is ridiculous. CMV. So a few days ago I was on facebook and a not that great friend shared a post that was a joke that equated atheists thinking that religion is silly or not true is the equivalent to reindeer shunning different parts of the reindeer community. I responded by saying that I was not shunning religious practices so much as saying there was no evidence to support them thus there is no reason to believe them. My friend responded that the joke flew over my head because I analyzed it. Saying that I can not criticize parts of a joke without misunderstanding it is ridiculous. Think of a scenario where a person was telling a very racist joke that stereotyped a different race in a very offensive way that the joke teller was unaware of. Would it be missing the joke to point out this racism? Of course not. I could still understand the joke but still point out its horrifying implications. This had been bothering me as some of his friends also complained to me on exactly the same basis.
t3_1jd0bi
I smoke American Spirit cigarettes, but consider them not harmful like other cigarettes. Please CMV
Hello. As the title says, I am an off and on smoker. When I first started I justified the habit because i chose to smoke American Spirits, which claim to be free of any additives and contain organic tobacco. I know the box says that "an organic cigarette does not mean a safer cigarette", but I find myself frequently in denial of the bad effects of smoking, because i just tell myself Im not smoking all those cancer causing chemicals that are in regular cigarettes. Id like to quit, but I find it hard to believe that there are that many negative effects without all the additives. I realize this is me being irrational, and likely in denial, and I'd appreciate any effort to CMV :)
I smoke American Spirit cigarettes, but consider them not harmful like other cigarettes. Please CMV. Hello. As the title says, I am an off and on smoker. When I first started I justified the habit because i chose to smoke American Spirits, which claim to be free of any additives and contain organic tobacco. I know the box says that "an organic cigarette does not mean a safer cigarette", but I find myself frequently in denial of the bad effects of smoking, because i just tell myself Im not smoking all those cancer causing chemicals that are in regular cigarettes. Id like to quit, but I find it hard to believe that there are that many negative effects without all the additives. I realize this is me being irrational, and likely in denial, and I'd appreciate any effort to CMV :)
t3_1iq7hp
I don't believe memorial services should be as mandatory as society makes them to be. CMV, please?
EDIT: Thank you everyone, but the first comments already changed my view! As such, there's no need to keep commenting (unless you want to reply to another comment). Thank you again! I am a Christian, and yes, I have a heart. I do cherish those close to me who have died. However, in a recent mini-argument between my mother and I, I told her that I don't believe everyone should go to a memorial service if that is not the way in which one wants to honor someone. One of my elementary school teachers died recently, and he greatly impacted my life. I could never thank him enough for that, but I did not want to go to the memorial, as I did not feel it would help me feel closure. (If it changes anything, I *did* write in my journal the night after I found out about my teacher's death - *that* helped me find closure. I do not feel that the memorial would bring more closure, if any at all.) I realize others might take my not being there as a resentment of my teacher's memory (or perhaps just plain indifference?), but my mother thinks that I should always go, if only to show others there that the deceased touched my life. However, wouldn't there be an ample amount of people there? People who choose to honor others in this way, and/or who are comforted in seeing that the deceased touched other peoples' lives? Am I just being selfish in withholding my presence from a funeral? (Please tell me if I submitted to the wrong subreddit! Most of this post is definitely about working out my own beliefs, whether they change or not, but I realize it might be a little personal, and if so, please advise a better subreddit. Thank you!)
I don't believe memorial services should be as mandatory as society makes them to be. CMV, please?. EDIT: Thank you everyone, but the first comments already changed my view! As such, there's no need to keep commenting (unless you want to reply to another comment). Thank you again! I am a Christian, and yes, I have a heart. I do cherish those close to me who have died. However, in a recent mini-argument between my mother and I, I told her that I don't believe everyone should go to a memorial service if that is not the way in which one wants to honor someone. One of my elementary school teachers died recently, and he greatly impacted my life. I could never thank him enough for that, but I did not want to go to the memorial, as I did not feel it would help me feel closure. (If it changes anything, I *did* write in my journal the night after I found out about my teacher's death - *that* helped me find closure. I do not feel that the memorial would bring more closure, if any at all.) I realize others might take my not being there as a resentment of my teacher's memory (or perhaps just plain indifference?), but my mother thinks that I should always go, if only to show others there that the deceased touched my life. However, wouldn't there be an ample amount of people there? People who choose to honor others in this way, and/or who are comforted in seeing that the deceased touched other peoples' lives? Am I just being selfish in withholding my presence from a funeral? (Please tell me if I submitted to the wrong subreddit! Most of this post is definitely about working out my own beliefs, whether they change or not, but I realize it might be a little personal, and if so, please advise a better subreddit. Thank you!)
t3_1e37jw
I don't think you need 2,000/2,5000 calories a day to maintain; I don't think 'timing' for meals is necessary; I think multivitamins are enough to support a lack of vegetables in a diet. CMV.
I'm 5'2" and 110, and I tend to only eat when I'm hungry. My usual diet is nothing for breakfast, tea for lunch, and fried eggs and rice for dinner. I don't think breakfast is super important, and I don't think eating late at night is unhealthy. I don't think that actively including vegetables in my diet is super important if I take a multivitamin. My reigning diet philosophy is 'eat when you need to'. If I worked out too much and I feel faint, I know to eat more. If I feel bloated, I know to eat less. I'm not convinced that a lot of what is 'common sense' in nutrition is actually true. CMV, change my view.
I don't think you need 2,000/2,5000 calories a day to maintain; I don't think 'timing' for meals is necessary; I think multivitamins are enough to support a lack of vegetables in a diet. CMV. I'm 5'2" and 110, and I tend to only eat when I'm hungry. My usual diet is nothing for breakfast, tea for lunch, and fried eggs and rice for dinner. I don't think breakfast is super important, and I don't think eating late at night is unhealthy. I don't think that actively including vegetables in my diet is super important if I take a multivitamin. My reigning diet philosophy is 'eat when you need to'. If I worked out too much and I feel faint, I know to eat more. If I feel bloated, I know to eat less. I'm not convinced that a lot of what is 'common sense' in nutrition is actually true. CMV, change my view.
t3_4i3dft
CMV: Being trans gendered is a mental illness and its wrong to encourage it
This is an unusual CMV I imagine, in that I genuinely want my view to be changed. I'm socially liberal on almost every issue, but when it comes to transgender people I can't shake my prejudices no matter how hard I think about it. I've had a member of my extended family come out as trans gendered, and while I'd never ever voice my concerns or squeamishness about it to her in person (or to any one else, for that matter) I cannot help but be disgusted by it and horrified that it is the sort of thing normalized by our society. Fair warning, my views may be considered somewhat offensive, so if you are easily offended please don't read on. I want to write them exactly as they are, so that they can be clearly understood. I am ashamed that I hold these views -- they go against everything I've ever been taught to believe -- and I would genuinely appreciate any effort to change my mind. In my view, a man is someone who is genetically male. You may not identify as male or wish you were female but honestly, so freakin' what? Deal with it. There's worse things in the world than wishing you were born of the other gender. Surgically removing your penis and taking estrogen tablets and wearing girl clothing and makeup isn't becoming a girl. You're still just a penisless male who can easily be identified (simply by looking at you) as a transgendered person. Dressing up in girl clothing and wearing makeup can never change that simple and undeniable fact. I cannot recall a single time in my life when I was unable to identify based on appearance alone, a trans gendered person. Now I do believe that being transgender is a mental illness. If you are born male, with a penis and XY chromosomes, than you are male. If you believe otherwise, the only possible origin for such a belief is the mind. Certainly there is no *physical* reason to feel this way. Rather than irreversibly changing the physical body to match what the mind "believes" shouldn't treatment be focused on matching the mind to the body? Surely the mind is far more malleable and conducive to treatment than the body is? You hear stories about 6, 7, or 8 year old kids who've chosen to play with dolls being pushed toward gender reassignment medication before they're even able to think for themselves. I myself have very few memories from that age - the person I was then is radically different to who I am now (age 21). How can it be legal or moral for any society to allow its parents to push gender reassignment medication on children? Or teenagers for that matter? Even 3 years after my 18th birthday I'm a completely different person. My personality could not be more different. I've always believed in equality and justice and individual freedom. All my adult life I've been involved in social justice causes and my belief that gays and lesbians are worthy of marriage is a fundamental ideal which I have held for most of my life. I'm liberal on virtually every other issue that I know of but I've just never been able to accept transgender people as being the same as gays and lesbians. To me, being transgender is a mental illness and the cure should not be gender reassignment surgery but rather mental health treatment. Please, CMV. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Being trans gendered is a mental illness and its wrong to encourage it. This is an unusual CMV I imagine, in that I genuinely want my view to be changed. I'm socially liberal on almost every issue, but when it comes to transgender people I can't shake my prejudices no matter how hard I think about it. I've had a member of my extended family come out as trans gendered, and while I'd never ever voice my concerns or squeamishness about it to her in person (or to any one else, for that matter) I cannot help but be disgusted by it and horrified that it is the sort of thing normalized by our society. Fair warning, my views may be considered somewhat offensive, so if you are easily offended please don't read on. I want to write them exactly as they are, so that they can be clearly understood. I am ashamed that I hold these views -- they go against everything I've ever been taught to believe -- and I would genuinely appreciate any effort to change my mind. In my view, a man is someone who is genetically male. You may not identify as male or wish you were female but honestly, so freakin' what? Deal with it. There's worse things in the world than wishing you were born of the other gender. Surgically removing your penis and taking estrogen tablets and wearing girl clothing and makeup isn't becoming a girl. You're still just a penisless male who can easily be identified (simply by looking at you) as a transgendered person. Dressing up in girl clothing and wearing makeup can never change that simple and undeniable fact. I cannot recall a single time in my life when I was unable to identify based on appearance alone, a trans gendered person. Now I do believe that being transgender is a mental illness. If you are born male, with a penis and XY chromosomes, than you are male. If you believe otherwise, the only possible origin for such a belief is the mind. Certainly there is no *physical* reason to feel this way. Rather than irreversibly changing the physical body to match what the mind "believes" shouldn't treatment be focused on matching the mind to the body? Surely the mind is far more malleable and conducive to treatment than the body is? You hear stories about 6, 7, or 8 year old kids who've chosen to play with dolls being pushed toward gender reassignment medication before they're even able to think for themselves. I myself have very few memories from that age - the person I was then is radically different to who I am now (age 21). How can it be legal or moral for any society to allow its parents to push gender reassignment medication on children? Or teenagers for that matter? Even 3 years after my 18th birthday I'm a completely different person. My personality could not be more different. I've always believed in equality and justice and individual freedom. All my adult life I've been involved in social justice causes and my belief that gays and lesbians are worthy of marriage is a fundamental ideal which I have held for most of my life. I'm liberal on virtually every other issue that I know of but I've just never been able to accept transgender people as being the same as gays and lesbians. To me, being transgender is a mental illness and the cure should not be gender reassignment surgery but rather mental health treatment. Please, CMV.
t3_4w2kkp
CMV: Businesses/organizations which leave flyers/business cards on cars should be fined for littering.
Parking on college campuses, I frequently have party flyers (not local, casual parties but those types at clubs that are promoted by organizers) or local business advertisements shoved under my windshield wipers or in the plastic sealing of my driver's side window. I can look around the parking lot and see some on cars, some in the gutter, some blowing in the wind. Some people will resent essentially being *given trash to throw away* and just discard it immediately rather than walk the often-several blocks to a trash can or bring trash into their vehicle. Even if those people were the problem part of that equation (which I feel a case could be made that they are) "properly" secured adverts will still blow away sometimes, littering the nearby area. Because these campaigns increase litter in areas where they are conducted and because we necessarily know the business responsible, they should be contacted and fined equal to the fine allowed for littering in the area. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Businesses/organizations which leave flyers/business cards on cars should be fined for littering. Parking on college campuses, I frequently have party flyers (not local, casual parties but those types at clubs that are promoted by organizers) or local business advertisements shoved under my windshield wipers or in the plastic sealing of my driver's side window. I can look around the parking lot and see some on cars, some in the gutter, some blowing in the wind. Some people will resent essentially being *given trash to throw away* and just discard it immediately rather than walk the often-several blocks to a trash can or bring trash into their vehicle. Even if those people were the problem part of that equation (which I feel a case could be made that they are) "properly" secured adverts will still blow away sometimes, littering the nearby area. Because these campaigns increase litter in areas where they are conducted and because we necessarily know the business responsible, they should be contacted and fined equal to the fine allowed for littering in the area.
t3_1o3rlc
I believe that giving to the poor is a purely moral/religious action and should not be conducted by the government, because it mixes morals/religion with government. CMV.
I am not putting off giving to the poor at all. I actually personally believe that people should give some of their money to others to help them, but I am very against the government taking someones money and doing it for them. I think that government shouldn't enforce a group of people's code of ethics or morals, because not everyone shares the same code. In my opinion, I think that people that advocate the strong separation of church and state but then advocate government welfare and wealth redistribution are hypocrites, because such welfare IS mixing religion (or morals) with government. CMV.
I believe that giving to the poor is a purely moral/religious action and should not be conducted by the government, because it mixes morals/religion with government. CMV. I am not putting off giving to the poor at all. I actually personally believe that people should give some of their money to others to help them, but I am very against the government taking someones money and doing it for them. I think that government shouldn't enforce a group of people's code of ethics or morals, because not everyone shares the same code. In my opinion, I think that people that advocate the strong separation of church and state but then advocate government welfare and wealth redistribution are hypocrites, because such welfare IS mixing religion (or morals) with government. CMV.
t3_1ejsu9
I feel that the cyber attack against Amy's Baking Company in Arizona over a tv show is outrageous bullying that shouldn't be tolerated. CMV
This is the kind of behavior that results in suicides. I'm not saying they are perfect human beings, but few of us are. The owners were in a tense situation, reality shows rarely show reality, the show needs ratings, and the employee that was fired stated that that was the worst she'd ever heard of happening there (aka not the norm). I agree that tips should go to waitors/waitresses. I agree that IF the televised portrayal is accurate, then the wife needs psychiatric help. But I also don't believe in bullying people with mental health issues. And I think this attack is a disgusting mark on our generation and Reddit as a whole. No one seems to agree with me. So CMV
I feel that the cyber attack against Amy's Baking Company in Arizona over a tv show is outrageous bullying that shouldn't be tolerated. CMV. This is the kind of behavior that results in suicides. I'm not saying they are perfect human beings, but few of us are. The owners were in a tense situation, reality shows rarely show reality, the show needs ratings, and the employee that was fired stated that that was the worst she'd ever heard of happening there (aka not the norm). I agree that tips should go to waitors/waitresses. I agree that IF the televised portrayal is accurate, then the wife needs psychiatric help. But I also don't believe in bullying people with mental health issues. And I think this attack is a disgusting mark on our generation and Reddit as a whole. No one seems to agree with me. So CMV
t3_1enop4
I believe that both Feminists and MRAs have valid points, but neither side truly fights for equality.. CMV.
On /r/MensRights, no one ever seems to acknowledge the glass ceiling or prostitution (which I think should be legal to 'clean it up' but right now causes harm to many women). However, on the various feminist sites I've seen, no one seems to acknowledge unequal child custody laws and don't seem to want to give up extra privileges that women have such as being allowed to avoid the draft. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that there are two many groups fighting for one side and not enough fighting for true equality. Change my view - are men or women much more oppressed than the other? Are feminist groups and MRA groups truly campaigning for equality between men and women? Why do we even still *have* separate movements - why don't we all band together and fight for equality? Also, note that I'm only talking about the Western World. There's no doubt women are much more oppressed in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia.
I believe that both Feminists and MRAs have valid points, but neither side truly fights for equality.. CMV. On /r/MensRights, no one ever seems to acknowledge the glass ceiling or prostitution (which I think should be legal to 'clean it up' but right now causes harm to many women). However, on the various feminist sites I've seen, no one seems to acknowledge unequal child custody laws and don't seem to want to give up extra privileges that women have such as being allowed to avoid the draft. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that there are two many groups fighting for one side and not enough fighting for true equality. Change my view - are men or women much more oppressed than the other? Are feminist groups and MRA groups truly campaigning for equality between men and women? Why do we even still *have* separate movements - why don't we all band together and fight for equality? Also, note that I'm only talking about the Western World. There's no doubt women are much more oppressed in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia.
t3_2e40tz
CMV: The american government will at minimum be "non functional" until at least 2020, and even perhaps later (assuming a D wins 2016 presidential election)
And by "non functional", I mean nothing of importance by way of legislation will get done (such as immigration reform, tax reform, economic policy, etc). There may be some increased uses of the executive order for the next 6 years and for the first term of Hillary Clinton's or Elizabeth Warren's presidency, but will be very limited in lieu of actual legislation. My reasoning is The House of Representatives. Extreme right wing tea party republicans will control that house until redistricting happenings in 2020, and until then (like the last 5), they will continue to block everything since their constituencies do not penalize them for it, and probably sent them to congress to do just that (block everything Obama/Democrats want, even if its what they previously wanted). Basically based on the past 5 years, and voter demographics in the house gerrymandered districts, we are guaranteed government paralysis by design. Only in 2020 do we even have a possibility to change this, and that possibility hinges on a wave election across the country that causes democrats to take control of a lot of state houses across the country to redraw the district maps. If there is voter apathy about Clinton's or Warren's second term, the wave election will probably not happen, and the house will remain firmly under control of tea party republicans, which would place the new date at 2030 or later. Of course, this assumes 2016 will yield a Democrat president, which I think is the extremely likely possibility.
CMV: The american government will at minimum be "non functional" until at least 2020, and even perhaps later (assuming a D wins 2016 presidential election). And by "non functional", I mean nothing of importance by way of legislation will get done (such as immigration reform, tax reform, economic policy, etc). There may be some increased uses of the executive order for the next 6 years and for the first term of Hillary Clinton's or Elizabeth Warren's presidency, but will be very limited in lieu of actual legislation. My reasoning is The House of Representatives. Extreme right wing tea party republicans will control that house until redistricting happenings in 2020, and until then (like the last 5), they will continue to block everything since their constituencies do not penalize them for it, and probably sent them to congress to do just that (block everything Obama/Democrats want, even if its what they previously wanted). Basically based on the past 5 years, and voter demographics in the house gerrymandered districts, we are guaranteed government paralysis by design. Only in 2020 do we even have a possibility to change this, and that possibility hinges on a wave election across the country that causes democrats to take control of a lot of state houses across the country to redraw the district maps. If there is voter apathy about Clinton's or Warren's second term, the wave election will probably not happen, and the house will remain firmly under control of tea party republicans, which would place the new date at 2030 or later. Of course, this assumes 2016 will yield a Democrat president, which I think is the extremely likely possibility.
t3_1g8i0j
I believe that a Brave New World scenario would not be a bad thing, CMV.
This came up in my mind because of all the stuff regarding surveillance and fear of an 1984-esque society. Basically, I don't agree with Huxley. He states that if we are too ingrained in our happiness, we won't live a full life. I'm opposed to that simply because I feel like if everyone's happy, why does it matter? If we had the technology to keep everyone fed and housed, while eliminating war, hate, and violence, why is that bad? I see where Huxley's coming from, and the fact that he wanted us to keep our old human emotions and values. But if those very emotions cause hate and sadness, why have them at all?
I believe that a Brave New World scenario would not be a bad thing, CMV. This came up in my mind because of all the stuff regarding surveillance and fear of an 1984-esque society. Basically, I don't agree with Huxley. He states that if we are too ingrained in our happiness, we won't live a full life. I'm opposed to that simply because I feel like if everyone's happy, why does it matter? If we had the technology to keep everyone fed and housed, while eliminating war, hate, and violence, why is that bad? I see where Huxley's coming from, and the fact that he wanted us to keep our old human emotions and values. But if those very emotions cause hate and sadness, why have them at all?
t3_37y19g
CMV: Affirmative action doesn't help in the US anymore.
With affirmative action dictating that a certain amount of students or workers have to be either women or an ethnic group that isnt white(or in the case of a few places there has to be a certain percentage of every race and sex including whites and males), it shuts out individuals who would be more qualified for the position, and so wastes resources, and reduces the quality of goods and services from companies that uphold affirmative action. Not only this, but it puts the "beneficiaries" at a disadvantage in education and the workplace. for example, if you took two students from the same class, where student A barely passed with a low C, and student B was at the top of the class with an a, then accepted student A over B just because of the color of their skin or whats between their legs, student A isn't exactly going to do well. As put in [this](http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21576658-first-three-pieces-race-based-preferences-around-world-we-look-americas) article, student B isnt very likely to be able to keep up with the rest of the class due to them lacking something the other members that got there through merit rather than just being handed a position in the class for their race or sex. This in turn can damage their confidence, and waste their time and money they could be otherwise using to actually progress in life rather than being given a shortcut only to find that they cant keep up, or in the case of them getting into a service or production position, the customers of said person will be getting a shoddy good or service thanks to affirmative action. edit:nvm, i jumped into something without researching properly. edit: after looking into it more, it doesnt look quite as bad as i had initially thought, but even so, if it comes down to two applications being identicle aside from the applicant's ancestry, its still a pretty shoddy idea to just assume that because you share ancestry with the majority of the upper class that your actually a member. there are plenty of whites squatting in rundown trailer parks while other whites live it up with the upper class. at this point my stance towards affirmative action depends on where and how its implemented. so long as it does what its actually supposed to, i agree with it now. though with how states have different laws, and how massive of a board there is to monitor, theres bound to be at least a few iterations that operate closer to what i had initially thought and what oversoul mentioned◬
CMV: Affirmative action doesn't help in the US anymore. With affirmative action dictating that a certain amount of students or workers have to be either women or an ethnic group that isnt white(or in the case of a few places there has to be a certain percentage of every race and sex including whites and males), it shuts out individuals who would be more qualified for the position, and so wastes resources, and reduces the quality of goods and services from companies that uphold affirmative action. Not only this, but it puts the "beneficiaries" at a disadvantage in education and the workplace. for example, if you took two students from the same class, where student A barely passed with a low C, and student B was at the top of the class with an a, then accepted student A over B just because of the color of their skin or whats between their legs, student A isn't exactly going to do well. As put in [this](http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21576658-first-three-pieces-race-based-preferences-around-world-we-look-americas) article, student B isnt very likely to be able to keep up with the rest of the class due to them lacking something the other members that got there through merit rather than just being handed a position in the class for their race or sex. This in turn can damage their confidence, and waste their time and money they could be otherwise using to actually progress in life rather than being given a shortcut only to find that they cant keep up, or in the case of them getting into a service or production position, the customers of said person will be getting a shoddy good or service thanks to affirmative action. edit:nvm, i jumped into something without researching properly. edit: after looking into it more, it doesnt look quite as bad as i had initially thought, but even so, if it comes down to two applications being identicle aside from the applicant's ancestry, its still a pretty shoddy idea to just assume that because you share ancestry with the majority of the upper class that your actually a member. there are plenty of whites squatting in rundown trailer parks while other whites live it up with the upper class. at this point my stance towards affirmative action depends on where and how its implemented. so long as it does what its actually supposed to, i agree with it now. though with how states have different laws, and how massive of a board there is to monitor, theres bound to be at least a few iterations that operate closer to what i had initially thought and what oversoul mentioned◬
t3_2dbie8
CMV:Adoption is better than giving birth to one
I really think that a lot of common world problem are mainly (if not, majorly affected) caused by overpopulation (starvation, diseases, unemployment, etc. you name it). So I thought, why not adopt child that needs help instead of making more child? Here's the benefit of adopting on top off my head: 1. You don't add more problem (e.g. starvation) to the world and you still get to keep a child. 2. You don't have to let your wife/yourself(if you are female) risk your life giving birth. Sure, technologies improved so the risk is reduced, but still, you gotta pay a lot of money just for the operation. That money can be used for something else that might be more important. 3. Imagine if your own child was born in this world, there's no guarantee they will be living in a good place in the future, since the number of problem in the world seems to be increasing. (again, look at unemployment problem in the world, it seems to keep increasing) I tried discussing this with my parents, but they just keep dismissing my arguments with saying "Nah, you're not at that age yet, you'll understand in the future". and it kinda sickens me since they use that reasoning for a lot of things. Now, I'm not saying that everyone should adopt child and ban childmaking. I'm posting this because I'd like to see the opposing view on this, as I can't seem to see it myself. Okay, I can at least mention one reason why having your own child is more beneficial than adopting: It's because mother are more mentally (or spiritually?) connected with her child because they were in her womb for 9 months. But heck, I can't prove or disprove that. If there's anything unclear, I apologize in advance and I'll try to clear it up for you. EDIT: I think this [post](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/2dbie8/cmvadoption_is_better_than_giving_birth_to_one/cjnzxrn) is the one that affected me most. Thanks /r/changemyview :) _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV:Adoption is better than giving birth to one. I really think that a lot of common world problem are mainly (if not, majorly affected) caused by overpopulation (starvation, diseases, unemployment, etc. you name it). So I thought, why not adopt child that needs help instead of making more child? Here's the benefit of adopting on top off my head: 1. You don't add more problem (e.g. starvation) to the world and you still get to keep a child. 2. You don't have to let your wife/yourself(if you are female) risk your life giving birth. Sure, technologies improved so the risk is reduced, but still, you gotta pay a lot of money just for the operation. That money can be used for something else that might be more important. 3. Imagine if your own child was born in this world, there's no guarantee they will be living in a good place in the future, since the number of problem in the world seems to be increasing. (again, look at unemployment problem in the world, it seems to keep increasing) I tried discussing this with my parents, but they just keep dismissing my arguments with saying "Nah, you're not at that age yet, you'll understand in the future". and it kinda sickens me since they use that reasoning for a lot of things. Now, I'm not saying that everyone should adopt child and ban childmaking. I'm posting this because I'd like to see the opposing view on this, as I can't seem to see it myself. Okay, I can at least mention one reason why having your own child is more beneficial than adopting: It's because mother are more mentally (or spiritually?) connected with her child because they were in her womb for 9 months. But heck, I can't prove or disprove that. If there's anything unclear, I apologize in advance and I'll try to clear it up for you. EDIT: I think this [post](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/2dbie8/cmvadoption_is_better_than_giving_birth_to_one/cjnzxrn) is the one that affected me most. Thanks /r/changemyview :)
t3_3ekjom
CMV: Climate change isn't an issue we should care too much about
A lot of climate change related posts are made on CMV and it's had me thinking, reading a number of replies on different questions and looking into things, I just don't feel that climate change is something we as a species should care about. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with 'going green', it creates jobs, it creates alternatives fuels, it's better all round, I wouldn't be opposed to a completely green infrastructure, however I don't think it's necessary. We haven't exactly got that much date regarding the patterns of the earth's weather, we have probably 200 years max worth of detailed data. Beyond that we could draw attention to particularly big events (storms, hurricanes, etc) and the general weather of a day or two. Therefore I find it an unfair assumption to say the world's climate isn't cyclic, because we just don't know. I don't think we know enough about the world to determine whether or not any real change has been occurring. It's all well and good to say the icecaps are melting and the water is rising and the temperature in X was warmer than it was 10 years ago except for those 3 years between where it was lower. On top of that, any effort we make to reverse possible damage or to slow down global climate effects would not make much difference, maybe if everyone drove electric cars, recycled 100% of everything and completely overhauled their way of life (which I don't see ever happening). I'm by no means a climate-change denier, I don't think it's tha gubmint tryna git dem chinese monies and use that there darpa to mind control me into supporting Obama or whatever, but I do feel like my opinion on this may be wrong and I'd like to be shown why. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Climate change isn't an issue we should care too much about. A lot of climate change related posts are made on CMV and it's had me thinking, reading a number of replies on different questions and looking into things, I just don't feel that climate change is something we as a species should care about. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with 'going green', it creates jobs, it creates alternatives fuels, it's better all round, I wouldn't be opposed to a completely green infrastructure, however I don't think it's necessary. We haven't exactly got that much date regarding the patterns of the earth's weather, we have probably 200 years max worth of detailed data. Beyond that we could draw attention to particularly big events (storms, hurricanes, etc) and the general weather of a day or two. Therefore I find it an unfair assumption to say the world's climate isn't cyclic, because we just don't know. I don't think we know enough about the world to determine whether or not any real change has been occurring. It's all well and good to say the icecaps are melting and the water is rising and the temperature in X was warmer than it was 10 years ago except for those 3 years between where it was lower. On top of that, any effort we make to reverse possible damage or to slow down global climate effects would not make much difference, maybe if everyone drove electric cars, recycled 100% of everything and completely overhauled their way of life (which I don't see ever happening). I'm by no means a climate-change denier, I don't think it's tha gubmint tryna git dem chinese monies and use that there darpa to mind control me into supporting Obama or whatever, but I do feel like my opinion on this may be wrong and I'd like to be shown why.
t3_55e8t3
CMV: If Trump continues to suggest that he will not accept election results, it should be viewed as treason and dealt with as such
Treason is usually reserved for crimes against the state, but in the sense I am using it, Donald Trump is attacking the basis of state legitimacy - the validity of the votes. I am not arguing that if he were to produce verifiable evidence of meaningful fraud, that that would be treason - merely continuing to allude to unverifiable, demonstrably unimportant cases of fraud as institutional is misleading and extremely damaging to the country. This isn't the heart of my argument, but, the only possible outcome of Trump continuing to argue that Election Results are rigged - without evidence - is for his own supporters to delegitimize the election. In turn our republic as well. We have a mechanism for dealing with crimes against the state, criminal law, and we have laws that define harm to the Govt.- therefore if Trump continues to position his supporters to not accept election results that are favorable to himself - the DOJ should investigate and charge him for some treasonous activity EDIT: clarification of treason [Link](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/30/trump-clinton-support-election-winner-debate-interview) EDIT: post delta Thanks to everyone who participated.
CMV: If Trump continues to suggest that he will not accept election results, it should be viewed as treason and dealt with as such. Treason is usually reserved for crimes against the state, but in the sense I am using it, Donald Trump is attacking the basis of state legitimacy - the validity of the votes. I am not arguing that if he were to produce verifiable evidence of meaningful fraud, that that would be treason - merely continuing to allude to unverifiable, demonstrably unimportant cases of fraud as institutional is misleading and extremely damaging to the country. This isn't the heart of my argument, but, the only possible outcome of Trump continuing to argue that Election Results are rigged - without evidence - is for his own supporters to delegitimize the election. In turn our republic as well. We have a mechanism for dealing with crimes against the state, criminal law, and we have laws that define harm to the Govt.- therefore if Trump continues to position his supporters to not accept election results that are favorable to himself - the DOJ should investigate and charge him for some treasonous activity EDIT: clarification of treason [Link](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/30/trump-clinton-support-election-winner-debate-interview) EDIT: post delta Thanks to everyone who participated.
t3_1ncjg4
I think that twitter is for the most part, useless. CMV
I think that twitter should only be used for people who have large followings such as Youtubers and celebrities as well as news outlets and large institutions. Most of the people I know that use twitter, use it to gossip or arranging events. They could just use other social media websites such as Facebook for this, and it would be just as effective or easier to use. I am in high school. I don't see the purpose of twitter for the general public. What does twitter do that other social media sites don't?
I think that twitter is for the most part, useless. CMV. I think that twitter should only be used for people who have large followings such as Youtubers and celebrities as well as news outlets and large institutions. Most of the people I know that use twitter, use it to gossip or arranging events. They could just use other social media websites such as Facebook for this, and it would be just as effective or easier to use. I am in high school. I don't see the purpose of twitter for the general public. What does twitter do that other social media sites don't?
t3_3m79kq
CMV: Elected officials who actively refuses to perform their duties is engaged in an act of sedition.
So, first the definition: > 18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy: > If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.) In my view, Congress members (and other elected officials) have a combination of duties and discretionary authorities. Duties, in the sense I'm using the term are those functions that are essential to their role and which must be performed for government to function. They are therefore, non-optional acts. Authorities are those powers granted to an office that are in some way optional. A congress person can abstain from every vote and they really aren't failing to do their job, but they are failing to do their job well. However, when members of congress conspire with one another to fail to perform functions essential to government, such as passing a budget to fund the functions of government, or using the threat of failure to pass a budget, then they are precisely seeking to "prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States." Ergo, a majority party in Congress that has failed to pass a budget by the necessary date is by definition engaged in crimes against the nation. CMV. **EDIT**: Ok, I realize that Congress is immune from prosecution. And I failed to be sufficiently clear. While I do think that what they are doing is criminal with respect to the intent and spirit of the law, I do not think it is prosecutable due to the specific protections Congress is afforded within the Constitution. **EDIT**: I can't edit the title, but in the interest of clarity: It is my view that elected officials who actively refuses to perform their duties should be considered engaging in acts of sedition. I realize that as the law stands today this is not how the law is currently used. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Elected officials who actively refuses to perform their duties is engaged in an act of sedition. So, first the definition: > 18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy: > If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.) In my view, Congress members (and other elected officials) have a combination of duties and discretionary authorities. Duties, in the sense I'm using the term are those functions that are essential to their role and which must be performed for government to function. They are therefore, non-optional acts. Authorities are those powers granted to an office that are in some way optional. A congress person can abstain from every vote and they really aren't failing to do their job, but they are failing to do their job well. However, when members of congress conspire with one another to fail to perform functions essential to government, such as passing a budget to fund the functions of government, or using the threat of failure to pass a budget, then they are precisely seeking to "prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States." Ergo, a majority party in Congress that has failed to pass a budget by the necessary date is by definition engaged in crimes against the nation. CMV. **EDIT**: Ok, I realize that Congress is immune from prosecution. And I failed to be sufficiently clear. While I do think that what they are doing is criminal with respect to the intent and spirit of the law, I do not think it is prosecutable due to the specific protections Congress is afforded within the Constitution. **EDIT**: I can't edit the title, but in the interest of clarity: It is my view that elected officials who actively refuses to perform their duties should be considered engaging in acts of sedition. I realize that as the law stands today this is not how the law is currently used.
t3_2zni11
CMV: Tommy Wiseau is a character, not an actual person.
The other day "Tommy Wiseau" did an AMA. What surprised me, or at least that I found bizarre, was that all his answers showed his characteristic affected speech style, down to the bizarre accent (e.g. writing Elizabeth as "Eleezabeth"). Even if someone does talk this way, it's very unlikely that it will be reflected in their writing. It got me thinking about all of his various oddities and eventually the thought hit me: he's answering questions "in character" because he's *literally in character.* Here are some things that I feel support this view: * His background is shrouded in mystery. He claims to be from New Orleans, but his accent obviously makes this not the case. He had $6M to pay for *The Room*, the source of which is also shrouded in mystery. Greg Sestero says that he often gave "self-contradicting" stories about his past. The best explanation? His background is unknown because Tommy Wiseau has no background to speak of...because he is a made-up character. * In general he seems to be a mishmash of "generic foreign-ness": a faux-French last name (AFAIK "Wiseau" is not a real French name, but it certainly seems Franco-esque); an indistinct Eastern European accent; an incomplete mastery of English without any general hints of what his native language might be. Real people come from real places. Why can't Wiseau's "mysterious foreign origins" be determined? Because he isn't real. * Wiseau seems to make public appearances rather sporadically. His filmography is brief. He does seem to have made headway into the Internet with his *Tommy Explains It All* channel, but the Internet is a medium in which it is easy to portray a fictional character - The Nostalgia Critic, the AVGN, and countless others prove that. So who is Tommy Wiseau? My guess he is the alter ego of a bored and rich private citizen who wanted to have some fun with all the money he accumulated. This explains his half-baked, generically "foreign" mannerisms; his mysterious, seemingly nonexistent background; and his reluctance to appear in public outside places where his portrayal is easy. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Tommy Wiseau is a character, not an actual person. The other day "Tommy Wiseau" did an AMA. What surprised me, or at least that I found bizarre, was that all his answers showed his characteristic affected speech style, down to the bizarre accent (e.g. writing Elizabeth as "Eleezabeth"). Even if someone does talk this way, it's very unlikely that it will be reflected in their writing. It got me thinking about all of his various oddities and eventually the thought hit me: he's answering questions "in character" because he's *literally in character.* Here are some things that I feel support this view: * His background is shrouded in mystery. He claims to be from New Orleans, but his accent obviously makes this not the case. He had $6M to pay for *The Room*, the source of which is also shrouded in mystery. Greg Sestero says that he often gave "self-contradicting" stories about his past. The best explanation? His background is unknown because Tommy Wiseau has no background to speak of...because he is a made-up character. * In general he seems to be a mishmash of "generic foreign-ness": a faux-French last name (AFAIK "Wiseau" is not a real French name, but it certainly seems Franco-esque); an indistinct Eastern European accent; an incomplete mastery of English without any general hints of what his native language might be. Real people come from real places. Why can't Wiseau's "mysterious foreign origins" be determined? Because he isn't real. * Wiseau seems to make public appearances rather sporadically. His filmography is brief. He does seem to have made headway into the Internet with his *Tommy Explains It All* channel, but the Internet is a medium in which it is easy to portray a fictional character - The Nostalgia Critic, the AVGN, and countless others prove that. So who is Tommy Wiseau? My guess he is the alter ego of a bored and rich private citizen who wanted to have some fun with all the money he accumulated. This explains his half-baked, generically "foreign" mannerisms; his mysterious, seemingly nonexistent background; and his reluctance to appear in public outside places where his portrayal is easy.
t3_1fy3rv
Based on Watergate, I believe that President Obama should be impeached. CMV
The reason Nixon was brought up on impeachment was because he simply chose to ignore a break-in at the Democratic National Headquarters. If a connection is found between Lerner and President Obama (evidence there is, we will wait for more hearings to find conclusive evidence), President Obama should be impeached as his scandal was far worse.
Based on Watergate, I believe that President Obama should be impeached. CMV. The reason Nixon was brought up on impeachment was because he simply chose to ignore a break-in at the Democratic National Headquarters. If a connection is found between Lerner and President Obama (evidence there is, we will wait for more hearings to find conclusive evidence), President Obama should be impeached as his scandal was far worse.
t3_1ph6g5
I think the time has come for a one-world government. CMV
Okay, I've just recently become obsessed with this idea, so I don't know much about it (any books or articles would be much appreciated!). I think the world will be a better, healthier place with a united government and the future wellbeing of our species depends on us uniting despite our histories and differences. I think the reasons against a global government are silly and paranoid (conspiracy theories about a New World Order or a sign of the End Times), or selfish (the U.S., China, and Russia would have the most to "lose" as the current major powers) or just plain xenophobic. We're one species, and the world is already extremely interconnected. The friction that comes about from wiretapping foreign leaders' phones or trade embargoes over nuclear weapons are pointless in the long run. To continue as separate nation-states only sets us up for future conflicts, as well as the ability for the more powerful to prey on the weak. I think the hurdles for a united world government are immense (which political system would the new government resemble?), but the cause is to great to be ignored. I'm very ignorant, still learning but hopeful and here to listen. CMV. Random footnote: In space we currently have our greatest metaphor floating over our heads - the International Space Station, a symbol of international cooperation and the common interests and humanity we all share. It's also a source of great embarrassment when you consider the fact that China is not allowed in the ISS and has been forced to build their own station - a very silly remnant of centuries or wars between nation-states and xenophobia. They are solving the same problems in space as the ISS, they have to breathe the same mix of chemicals to survive. I think this highlights the absurdities of the divisions. EDIT1 - Okay, I'm still not dissuaded, although I'm getting a better picture on how difficult this would be - so I could agree that even though I think a one-world government is important ASAP it still seems, practically, a long way off. I think it's inevitable though, and the sooner, the better. Also, nobody's really responded to the space thing - would one world unity be a lot easier if we had a *global* narrative, some form of manifest destiny that stretched out to the other planets? It seems like in an age where we're beginning to colonize Mars that a planetary government will be more publicly accepted. (And if space colonization *isn't* the future of our species, what is?)
I think the time has come for a one-world government. CMV. Okay, I've just recently become obsessed with this idea, so I don't know much about it (any books or articles would be much appreciated!). I think the world will be a better, healthier place with a united government and the future wellbeing of our species depends on us uniting despite our histories and differences. I think the reasons against a global government are silly and paranoid (conspiracy theories about a New World Order or a sign of the End Times), or selfish (the U.S., China, and Russia would have the most to "lose" as the current major powers) or just plain xenophobic. We're one species, and the world is already extremely interconnected. The friction that comes about from wiretapping foreign leaders' phones or trade embargoes over nuclear weapons are pointless in the long run. To continue as separate nation-states only sets us up for future conflicts, as well as the ability for the more powerful to prey on the weak. I think the hurdles for a united world government are immense (which political system would the new government resemble?), but the cause is to great to be ignored. I'm very ignorant, still learning but hopeful and here to listen. CMV. Random footnote: In space we currently have our greatest metaphor floating over our heads - the International Space Station, a symbol of international cooperation and the common interests and humanity we all share. It's also a source of great embarrassment when you consider the fact that China is not allowed in the ISS and has been forced to build their own station - a very silly remnant of centuries or wars between nation-states and xenophobia. They are solving the same problems in space as the ISS, they have to breathe the same mix of chemicals to survive. I think this highlights the absurdities of the divisions. EDIT1 - Okay, I'm still not dissuaded, although I'm getting a better picture on how difficult this would be - so I could agree that even though I think a one-world government is important ASAP it still seems, practically, a long way off. I think it's inevitable though, and the sooner, the better. Also, nobody's really responded to the space thing - would one world unity be a lot easier if we had a *global* narrative, some form of manifest destiny that stretched out to the other planets? It seems like in an age where we're beginning to colonize Mars that a planetary government will be more publicly accepted. (And if space colonization *isn't* the future of our species, what is?)
t3_2d67b6
CMV: All new police officers should be required to have relevant degrees.
From what I understand, you don't need an associate's or bachelor's degree to be trained as a police officer. My view as it stands: 1) I believe every new police officer entering the line of duty, as part of their initial training, should be required to at least obtain an associate's degree in a relevant field (i.e. criminal justice) through education provided by the department or an associated college. 2) The police officer position can be likened to a healthcare position. Nurses with an associate's degree (RN), for instance, are being required to obtain a Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) by 2020. The extended education is to benefit the nurse and the healthcare community as a whole, to make sure every nurse is properly educated. Why shouldn't the same be asked of police officers? Nurses save lives, and so do police officers. The difference is that police officers wield firearms with the capacity to maim and kill. They ticket at their discretion. An unjust action by a police officer can take years to sort out in court/jail, just as an unethical decision by a nurse can be life threatening. 3) Requiring police officers to have higher education prerequisites would increase the reputation/public opinion of the police force across America. Public opinion towards the police, lately, has been negative, with everyone wearing GoPros to see cops shooting dogs. Yes, this isn't an everyday occurrence, but if you want to increase the police force's reputation across the country, then you need to act country-wide. 4) To quote [Police Chief Magazine](http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=957&issue_id=82006): > When people go to college and sit in a college classroom, they are suddenly exposed to different ethnicities, races, and nationalities. The resulting dynamics help potential APD officers communicate with people from all backgrounds and understand how to live in a civilized society: when and how to agree to disagree, and how to communicate while respecting differences of opinion and without resorting to force. > Degreed officers have developed critical thinking skills and an ability to communicate with people from all walks of life. They have been already exposed to life experiences that otherwise might have taken an additional 10 years of street experience to achieve. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: All new police officers should be required to have relevant degrees. From what I understand, you don't need an associate's or bachelor's degree to be trained as a police officer. My view as it stands: 1) I believe every new police officer entering the line of duty, as part of their initial training, should be required to at least obtain an associate's degree in a relevant field (i.e. criminal justice) through education provided by the department or an associated college. 2) The police officer position can be likened to a healthcare position. Nurses with an associate's degree (RN), for instance, are being required to obtain a Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) by 2020. The extended education is to benefit the nurse and the healthcare community as a whole, to make sure every nurse is properly educated. Why shouldn't the same be asked of police officers? Nurses save lives, and so do police officers. The difference is that police officers wield firearms with the capacity to maim and kill. They ticket at their discretion. An unjust action by a police officer can take years to sort out in court/jail, just as an unethical decision by a nurse can be life threatening. 3) Requiring police officers to have higher education prerequisites would increase the reputation/public opinion of the police force across America. Public opinion towards the police, lately, has been negative, with everyone wearing GoPros to see cops shooting dogs. Yes, this isn't an everyday occurrence, but if you want to increase the police force's reputation across the country, then you need to act country-wide. 4) To quote [Police Chief Magazine](http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=957&issue_id=82006): > When people go to college and sit in a college classroom, they are suddenly exposed to different ethnicities, races, and nationalities. The resulting dynamics help potential APD officers communicate with people from all backgrounds and understand how to live in a civilized society: when and how to agree to disagree, and how to communicate while respecting differences of opinion and without resorting to force. > Degreed officers have developed critical thinking skills and an ability to communicate with people from all walks of life. They have been already exposed to life experiences that otherwise might have taken an additional 10 years of street experience to achieve.
t3_1yvj7t
As a single male, when it comes to single females, if I'm not pursuing, I won't be friends with her; I do become friends with girls in relationships CMV
Case 1: I am interested in single girl, case 2: I am not. Case 1: I would try to ask her out on a date, if I fail, I don't see how one becomes friends with someone who has rejected you--the rejection makes it hard to develop friendship. Explain how? Case 2: I don't want to lead her on and cause any negative fallout. Risk of case 1 happening in the other way around, so therefore an investment of time and energy and money that does not pay off. Girls in relationships are generally easy to become friends with because the relationship doesn't have the dating overtones that might cause overthinking and etc.; I just treat them like my guy friends...who happen to be girls.
As a single male, when it comes to single females, if I'm not pursuing, I won't be friends with her; I do become friends with girls in relationships CMV. Case 1: I am interested in single girl, case 2: I am not. Case 1: I would try to ask her out on a date, if I fail, I don't see how one becomes friends with someone who has rejected you--the rejection makes it hard to develop friendship. Explain how? Case 2: I don't want to lead her on and cause any negative fallout. Risk of case 1 happening in the other way around, so therefore an investment of time and energy and money that does not pay off. Girls in relationships are generally easy to become friends with because the relationship doesn't have the dating overtones that might cause overthinking and etc.; I just treat them like my guy friends...who happen to be girls.
t3_22r9pg
CMV: I don't believe in Atheism OR Religion!
I know what this looks like, but I wouldn't consider this opinion to be neutral. I suppose this would be more of a Ross Perot position. So just for laughs, you can tag me as Agnostic. Sure, why not. Personally, I don't think we have the right to assume anything exists, or doesn't exist, outside of this reality. I'm a big fan of reddit, but I'm a little annoyed that /r/atheism makes it to the front page most days of the week... just as much as I am annoyed of those church signs I sometimes drive by on my way to work. I look at Atheists the same way as I look at a Christians... hardheaded idiots. Nothing can be proven either way -- can't you see that? Human beings are almost always wrong about what we always thought to be right. RIGHT?!? CHANGE MY VIEW. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than just downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: I don't believe in Atheism OR Religion!. I know what this looks like, but I wouldn't consider this opinion to be neutral. I suppose this would be more of a Ross Perot position. So just for laughs, you can tag me as Agnostic. Sure, why not. Personally, I don't think we have the right to assume anything exists, or doesn't exist, outside of this reality. I'm a big fan of reddit, but I'm a little annoyed that /r/atheism makes it to the front page most days of the week... just as much as I am annoyed of those church signs I sometimes drive by on my way to work. I look at Atheists the same way as I look at a Christians... hardheaded idiots. Nothing can be proven either way -- can't you see that? Human beings are almost always wrong about what we always thought to be right. RIGHT?!? CHANGE MY VIEW.
t3_64fx9f
CMV: The United States Marine Corps is a second army
Before I begin, let me be clear that this post is not meant to disprespect what the Marine Corps does, nor is is trying to decide whether the marine corps is better than the US army or vice versa. Now, what I'm getting at in comparing them is the size of the Marine Corps, and how the way they fight looks a lot like army infantry to my uninitiated eyes. Marine corps in many countries and in the beginning of the US military acted as naval infantry to guard ships and ports. That's why marine corps typically are a very small branch, you only need so many of them for that purpose. When we look at World War One, in its trench style there wasn't much warfare on beaches, a lot of the USMC's battles had them fight in an identical style to the US army. And I think the major point of my post stems from WW2. The Pacific theater was full of Islands that needed to be stormed, and who better for the job than naval infantry. Considering how it was a major theater, it makes sense that the marine corps grew so large. And in a lot of drawn out battles, the marines and the soldiers ended up fighting together in harmony, in what I can imagine just looked like one group of soldiers to the enemy instead of two separate branches. Contemporary military history is a bad area of mine, but it appears to me that the marine corps acts a lot like the army on their tours. As in, they are very large, and they aren't limited to naval areas. That's kind of the TL;dr. _____ > *This is a footnote from the CMV moderators. We'd like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: The United States Marine Corps is a second army. Before I begin, let me be clear that this post is not meant to disprespect what the Marine Corps does, nor is is trying to decide whether the marine corps is better than the US army or vice versa. Now, what I'm getting at in comparing them is the size of the Marine Corps, and how the way they fight looks a lot like army infantry to my uninitiated eyes. Marine corps in many countries and in the beginning of the US military acted as naval infantry to guard ships and ports. That's why marine corps typically are a very small branch, you only need so many of them for that purpose. When we look at World War One, in its trench style there wasn't much warfare on beaches, a lot of the USMC's battles had them fight in an identical style to the US army. And I think the major point of my post stems from WW2. The Pacific theater was full of Islands that needed to be stormed, and who better for the job than naval infantry. Considering how it was a major theater, it makes sense that the marine corps grew so large. And in a lot of drawn out battles, the marines and the soldiers ended up fighting together in harmony, in what I can imagine just looked like one group of soldiers to the enemy instead of two separate branches. Contemporary military history is a bad area of mine, but it appears to me that the marine corps acts a lot like the army on their tours. As in, they are very large, and they aren't limited to naval areas. That's kind of the TL;dr.
t3_6porkj
CMV: Because of a robber being charged with a murder for causing a miscarriage I think abortions should be illegal to prevent hypocrisy in the justice system.
I would like some help, not to instigate anything but to genuinely understand. I've always had a certain question regarding abortions and it revolves around potential hypocrisy in this scenario. Many people are against "religious reasons" and many are for it because of "women's rights to their bodies" and a whole slew of other reasons. Personally I'm conflicted and if asked I would say I'm against abortions unless in the most extreme health crises. Why? Because at the end of the day, I feel the unborn child is considered a life. And I think a lot of people would agree if they (mother/family) were expecting a new child in their family. So that leads to the scenario. Let's say a pregnant woman is walking down the street and some petty thief comes up, forcefully pushes her to the ground and steals her purse but then the robber is apprehended down the road. Simple robbery charge, assault, whatever the correct charges are for this instance and the matter is settled. BUT what if the woman miscarries as a result of the assault? Likeliness of this happening I have no idea the chances but let's just assume it does in this instance. Does the man get charged with murder or anything of that nature since the robber essentially killed that unborn child and took him/her away from the family? If he does get charged because he took a life, then why are abortions based on choice alone allowed to be made, where is the difference, ultimately it is the mother making a choice herself. This is where the divide comes in of "whatever reason abortions should be illegal" versus "woman's rights." In order to avoid hypocrisy and ensure fairness in our justice system, if abortions are allowed then wouldn't the robber not be charged with murder? I know this is a bit of a rant but I've always wondered what others thought on this matter. I'm happy to discuss, answer any questions and clarify if need be. Thank you.
CMV: Because of a robber being charged with a murder for causing a miscarriage I think abortions should be illegal to prevent hypocrisy in the justice system. I would like some help, not to instigate anything but to genuinely understand. I've always had a certain question regarding abortions and it revolves around potential hypocrisy in this scenario. Many people are against "religious reasons" and many are for it because of "women's rights to their bodies" and a whole slew of other reasons. Personally I'm conflicted and if asked I would say I'm against abortions unless in the most extreme health crises. Why? Because at the end of the day, I feel the unborn child is considered a life. And I think a lot of people would agree if they (mother/family) were expecting a new child in their family. So that leads to the scenario. Let's say a pregnant woman is walking down the street and some petty thief comes up, forcefully pushes her to the ground and steals her purse but then the robber is apprehended down the road. Simple robbery charge, assault, whatever the correct charges are for this instance and the matter is settled. BUT what if the woman miscarries as a result of the assault? Likeliness of this happening I have no idea the chances but let's just assume it does in this instance. Does the man get charged with murder or anything of that nature since the robber essentially killed that unborn child and took him/her away from the family? If he does get charged because he took a life, then why are abortions based on choice alone allowed to be made, where is the difference, ultimately it is the mother making a choice herself. This is where the divide comes in of "whatever reason abortions should be illegal" versus "woman's rights." In order to avoid hypocrisy and ensure fairness in our justice system, if abortions are allowed then wouldn't the robber not be charged with murder? I know this is a bit of a rant but I've always wondered what others thought on this matter. I'm happy to discuss, answer any questions and clarify if need be. Thank you.
t3_1kdvro
I believe bullying should be an expelable offense at first evidence. CMV
Good day. I'd like to present what I consider the most controversial opinion I hold on anything. First let me start off by saying that I've been a victim of bullying during half of my teenage years so I know the intricacies of the thing on a first-person basis, that said I also admit that my view could be quite biased on the subject due to that reason. Which is the reason I've decided to put this matter on the table here. Now WHY I hold this particular belief, because, I'll be brutally honest here, my personal opinion is that bullies are delinquents, nothing more. Schools exist to teach, to educate, having bullies running around making random kids lives hell just because they can't tell right from wrong isn't something anyone should have to deal with. Now a common retort I hear to this matter is the ol' "But the bullies might act like that because they have problems at home!" or "Pushing the bullies out of school might make them into criminals". To me that's just bullshit. Everyone has issues and yet they can still know right from wrong. Besides, schools don't exist to deal with young criminals and delinquents, that's what juvenile halls are for. So please if anyone can avoid using these arguments that would be pretty much essential to me because these two, to me, are pure horsehockey. So, I guess that's it, come on down and try to change my view on this if you may, I'll be waiting. My apologies for any mispellings or grammar errors, English isn't my native language and sometimes I tend to screw it up a bit. EDIT: Alright guys, after reading your posts I came to a conclusion, this proposal is extremist and inefficient, period. Looks good on paper but terrible in practice, on a side note I also learned a few things about the origins of the modern education system, thanks for your opinions guys!
I believe bullying should be an expelable offense at first evidence. CMV. Good day. I'd like to present what I consider the most controversial opinion I hold on anything. First let me start off by saying that I've been a victim of bullying during half of my teenage years so I know the intricacies of the thing on a first-person basis, that said I also admit that my view could be quite biased on the subject due to that reason. Which is the reason I've decided to put this matter on the table here. Now WHY I hold this particular belief, because, I'll be brutally honest here, my personal opinion is that bullies are delinquents, nothing more. Schools exist to teach, to educate, having bullies running around making random kids lives hell just because they can't tell right from wrong isn't something anyone should have to deal with. Now a common retort I hear to this matter is the ol' "But the bullies might act like that because they have problems at home!" or "Pushing the bullies out of school might make them into criminals". To me that's just bullshit. Everyone has issues and yet they can still know right from wrong. Besides, schools don't exist to deal with young criminals and delinquents, that's what juvenile halls are for. So please if anyone can avoid using these arguments that would be pretty much essential to me because these two, to me, are pure horsehockey. So, I guess that's it, come on down and try to change my view on this if you may, I'll be waiting. My apologies for any mispellings or grammar errors, English isn't my native language and sometimes I tend to screw it up a bit. EDIT: Alright guys, after reading your posts I came to a conclusion, this proposal is extremist and inefficient, period. Looks good on paper but terrible in practice, on a side note I also learned a few things about the origins of the modern education system, thanks for your opinions guys!
t3_1cbexg
I believe that order turns into chaos, rather than chaos turning into order, CMV
As it applies to the Bible, God created everything and afterward He states that He saw that it was good (implying initial order). On the other hand, modern day science offers us the theory that the big bang exploded (chaos) and it slowly developed into life (order) we see today. To put my theory into smaller terms, I think of it this way. If I just cleaned my house, I have put it into order, the same as God did in the begging, but over time, I misplace things and trash the place until it eventually becomes more and more disorderly. No matter how much time goes on my house will not clean and reorganize its self. I have to make a conscience effort to get my house back to its original order I set it in.
I believe that order turns into chaos, rather than chaos turning into order, CMV. As it applies to the Bible, God created everything and afterward He states that He saw that it was good (implying initial order). On the other hand, modern day science offers us the theory that the big bang exploded (chaos) and it slowly developed into life (order) we see today. To put my theory into smaller terms, I think of it this way. If I just cleaned my house, I have put it into order, the same as God did in the begging, but over time, I misplace things and trash the place until it eventually becomes more and more disorderly. No matter how much time goes on my house will not clean and reorganize its self. I have to make a conscience effort to get my house back to its original order I set it in.
t3_1qn0xd
I do not believe that a word alone can be racist CMV
I don't believe that just, for example, calling a black man a 'n word' (not sure if I can use it here) or someone with autism a retard is racist/offensive. I think that the meaning and beliefs behind the word are far more important than the actual word itself. To put this into a practical scenario calling a man in the street a 'fucking wanker' is more offensive than casually saying the 'n word' to your colleague in a bar. Could someone please explain to me what it is about these words that is so evocative that it makes people have such extreme reactions to it?
I do not believe that a word alone can be racist CMV. I don't believe that just, for example, calling a black man a 'n word' (not sure if I can use it here) or someone with autism a retard is racist/offensive. I think that the meaning and beliefs behind the word are far more important than the actual word itself. To put this into a practical scenario calling a man in the street a 'fucking wanker' is more offensive than casually saying the 'n word' to your colleague in a bar. Could someone please explain to me what it is about these words that is so evocative that it makes people have such extreme reactions to it?
t3_52xq8i
CMV: Nothing is offensive, you can only be offended.
"Stick and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me." That's what I was always told as a child and I believe it's a shame that we have moved away from this as a society. I believe that you can only be offended by something if you give the person power, and if what they are saying is hitting you from a place of deep insecurity, which is almost always something you can change internally. A trivial example, say that you're Bill Gates and a 9-5'er calls you a pathetic loser. You would laugh this off because you are so confident in the fact that you are not a pathetic loser. This is an obvious example but it can extend to a lot of other less trivial examples i.e. being called a n***** when you're black but having the confidence that you're not less than human and find the fact that they still hold racist beliefs and hatred to be sad and pathetic. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Nothing is offensive, you can only be offended. "Stick and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me." That's what I was always told as a child and I believe it's a shame that we have moved away from this as a society. I believe that you can only be offended by something if you give the person power, and if what they are saying is hitting you from a place of deep insecurity, which is almost always something you can change internally. A trivial example, say that you're Bill Gates and a 9-5'er calls you a pathetic loser. You would laugh this off because you are so confident in the fact that you are not a pathetic loser. This is an obvious example but it can extend to a lot of other less trivial examples i.e. being called a n***** when you're black but having the confidence that you're not less than human and find the fact that they still hold racist beliefs and hatred to be sad and pathetic.
t3_1k6i9t
Religious views are detrimental to society (CMV)
Final edit: Thanks to everyone that posted! Got alot more posts than I thought it would. I have changed my minds on some aspects of religion, if not most of them. What really made me most realize the issue is that religion isn't the main factor as to the problems I have with it. This means that people that murder for religion have more factors in play than them just being religious. I still don't like theocratic governments in any way though because I think that increases the bad taking place from religion. I guess a little religion won't hurt, even if it's not rational (in most cases). I grew up fairly religious and went to a private school for most of my young years (pre-school-7th grade). It was a lutheran school and I followed it but not very heavily because it was boring (of course). As I got into high school I started going to a youth group called Young Life which was really fun which made me associate fun with christianity. My parents never really pushed school on me because they told me it was evil and was just to brainwash children into becoming liberals. I realized this was insane after finishing high school, unfortunately the damage was already done to my grades. I am now studying physics and have a 3.9 (compared to a 2.8 in high school) and am a leader in the classrooms. So here is my view After realizing how damaging religion was to me personally both mentally, physically, and socially, I have come to equate it as being damaging to everything. I see how religion has single handidly destroyed many countries and am seeing the effects it is having on America now (negative). I have yet to see any single benefit that religion gives to society and all I can see is harm. If religion was eliminated from society, the whole planet would benefit and we could actually move towards real issues (in my opinion). Change my View! P.S. I am not asking for you to try to convince me of any religion by the way, I study science and know at least most of all religious stories are bullshit. : ) Edit: I have been convinced officially at least that religion had a place at certain times during our history. However, I still feel that if people actually looked for answers instead of assigning the questions to gods, we would have been much better off. Edit: CriminallySane has changed my opinion that in some instances religion can be beneficial to individuals in tight knit society like certain mormon groups. I can attest to this as well because I know many mormons. It still stands however that any religion that actively searches to take over a government or destroy scientific progress is detrimental to society. I will look at this with as open of a mind as possible!
Religious views are detrimental to society (CMV). Final edit: Thanks to everyone that posted! Got alot more posts than I thought it would. I have changed my minds on some aspects of religion, if not most of them. What really made me most realize the issue is that religion isn't the main factor as to the problems I have with it. This means that people that murder for religion have more factors in play than them just being religious. I still don't like theocratic governments in any way though because I think that increases the bad taking place from religion. I guess a little religion won't hurt, even if it's not rational (in most cases). I grew up fairly religious and went to a private school for most of my young years (pre-school-7th grade). It was a lutheran school and I followed it but not very heavily because it was boring (of course). As I got into high school I started going to a youth group called Young Life which was really fun which made me associate fun with christianity. My parents never really pushed school on me because they told me it was evil and was just to brainwash children into becoming liberals. I realized this was insane after finishing high school, unfortunately the damage was already done to my grades. I am now studying physics and have a 3.9 (compared to a 2.8 in high school) and am a leader in the classrooms. So here is my view After realizing how damaging religion was to me personally both mentally, physically, and socially, I have come to equate it as being damaging to everything. I see how religion has single handidly destroyed many countries and am seeing the effects it is having on America now (negative). I have yet to see any single benefit that religion gives to society and all I can see is harm. If religion was eliminated from society, the whole planet would benefit and we could actually move towards real issues (in my opinion). Change my View! P.S. I am not asking for you to try to convince me of any religion by the way, I study science and know at least most of all religious stories are bullshit. : ) Edit: I have been convinced officially at least that religion had a place at certain times during our history. However, I still feel that if people actually looked for answers instead of assigning the questions to gods, we would have been much better off. Edit: CriminallySane has changed my opinion that in some instances religion can be beneficial to individuals in tight knit society like certain mormon groups. I can attest to this as well because I know many mormons. It still stands however that any religion that actively searches to take over a government or destroy scientific progress is detrimental to society. I will look at this with as open of a mind as possible!
t3_1dgvtu
I believe that studying history in an advanced level is useless. CMV.
Oh boy. To be honest I love this sub. I can share my dumbest thoughts and expect that people might clarify it to me. But going to what matters: I always hated history in high school. Because I ~~always got bad grades and failed every exam~~ felt that was useless. **However**, after some years, now that I am a mature and enlightened adult (not really), I understand that these classes helped me to understand the world that we live. It was not a subject that made me get all the jobs, but now well, I have some idea about why some countries are fucked, while some are rich and etc. History was good after all! But here is the thing. What is the point of someone who chose to do a history major? Study history for 4-5 years. That is the question that I always had but never asked anyone. Cool, now you know every detail of how America was colonized. **So what?** How this people can help the society? How he or she can help a company? What is the point of studying deep of Aztec civilization besides "omg culture" and create museums or trivia facts? Why I want to know how a family in the Egypt lived 3000 years ago? I mean, yes, humans are moved by curiosity and want to learn new things, but is that really useful? The government spend money on this, and where is the return? History is only a entertainment area, for the sake of museums and documentaries? My views about this subject is so limited, that almost everything that I know about it is my own assumptions. So this is more like a Give a View than CMV. **Edit:** I am not from USA. People are saying that the major in history helps you to work in business or law. WTF, in my country, we have business and law majors. We don't have that majors in America?
I believe that studying history in an advanced level is useless. CMV. Oh boy. To be honest I love this sub. I can share my dumbest thoughts and expect that people might clarify it to me. But going to what matters: I always hated history in high school. Because I ~~always got bad grades and failed every exam~~ felt that was useless. **However**, after some years, now that I am a mature and enlightened adult (not really), I understand that these classes helped me to understand the world that we live. It was not a subject that made me get all the jobs, but now well, I have some idea about why some countries are fucked, while some are rich and etc. History was good after all! But here is the thing. What is the point of someone who chose to do a history major? Study history for 4-5 years. That is the question that I always had but never asked anyone. Cool, now you know every detail of how America was colonized. **So what?** How this people can help the society? How he or she can help a company? What is the point of studying deep of Aztec civilization besides "omg culture" and create museums or trivia facts? Why I want to know how a family in the Egypt lived 3000 years ago? I mean, yes, humans are moved by curiosity and want to learn new things, but is that really useful? The government spend money on this, and where is the return? History is only a entertainment area, for the sake of museums and documentaries? My views about this subject is so limited, that almost everything that I know about it is my own assumptions. So this is more like a Give a View than CMV. **Edit:** I am not from USA. People are saying that the major in history helps you to work in business or law. WTF, in my country, we have business and law majors. We don't have that majors in America?
t3_461796
CMV: You cannot build an equivalent PC for the price of a console
Lets take the PS4 which is selling at 350 USD right now on Amazon. Willbit be possible to build a 350 dollar PC including all hardware minus all software? The answer is no. Many sites claim that its possible to build such a PC. However when you compare the benchmarks you will see that AAA titles like AC Unity, AC Syndicate, Watch Dogs, Ryse son of Rome run at just 20 Fps on average compared to the console 30 FPS. and thats at 720p, unlike the console 1080p. If the console killer struggles on todays game it sure wont play AAA titles for the upcoming 6 years (the lifetime of a console). So yeah in summation even if you exclude the software you really cannot build a PC for the price of a console. Hence PC gaming is way expensive.
CMV: You cannot build an equivalent PC for the price of a console. Lets take the PS4 which is selling at 350 USD right now on Amazon. Willbit be possible to build a 350 dollar PC including all hardware minus all software? The answer is no. Many sites claim that its possible to build such a PC. However when you compare the benchmarks you will see that AAA titles like AC Unity, AC Syndicate, Watch Dogs, Ryse son of Rome run at just 20 Fps on average compared to the console 30 FPS. and thats at 720p, unlike the console 1080p. If the console killer struggles on todays game it sure wont play AAA titles for the upcoming 6 years (the lifetime of a console). So yeah in summation even if you exclude the software you really cannot build a PC for the price of a console. Hence PC gaming is way expensive.
t3_3b6p91
CMV: The Muppet Christmas Carol is the best Christmas movie ever made.
A shocking claim, perhaps? Here is my evidence: -Michael Caine in one of the most auspicious performances of his career -A song from the theatrical version called "The Love is Gone", wherein Belle breaks young Scrooge's heart as old Scrooge watches in despair -The Great Gonzo as Charles Dickens -Consistently amazing songs and instrumentals -Miss Piggy and Kermit give a tearjerking performance as the Cratchits -Scrooge's bookkeepers complain that their assets are frozen. Reasons it is better than other selected Christmas movies: -Miracle on 34th street is super cheesy -A Christmas Story lacks the emotional punch of MCC -Bad Santa, while a good movie, can't be enjoyed by younger audiences, and isn't family an intregral part of Christmas? -The Santa Claus is pretty good, but is depressing for most of the movie (custody battles, questions of sanity, child abuse) _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: The Muppet Christmas Carol is the best Christmas movie ever made. A shocking claim, perhaps? Here is my evidence: -Michael Caine in one of the most auspicious performances of his career -A song from the theatrical version called "The Love is Gone", wherein Belle breaks young Scrooge's heart as old Scrooge watches in despair -The Great Gonzo as Charles Dickens -Consistently amazing songs and instrumentals -Miss Piggy and Kermit give a tearjerking performance as the Cratchits -Scrooge's bookkeepers complain that their assets are frozen. Reasons it is better than other selected Christmas movies: -Miracle on 34th street is super cheesy -A Christmas Story lacks the emotional punch of MCC -Bad Santa, while a good movie, can't be enjoyed by younger audiences, and isn't family an intregral part of Christmas? -The Santa Claus is pretty good, but is depressing for most of the movie (custody battles, questions of sanity, child abuse)
t3_3kah1i
CMV: I don't think there is any meaningful conversation to be had with racists.
As my title states I don't believe there is any meaningful conversation to be had with racists. Recently reddit had a little spat due to the banning of some racist subs. A common argument presented by those who opposed the change was that banning racists closes the door on potentially meaningful conversation. I disagree. Firstly, why are racists needed to have a conversation about racism? What is it about the presence of racists that would make conversations about race any more meaningful? Why can't we have those same conversations without the racists? Secondly, the vast majority of racists arnt going to change their mind because of a conversation on the internet. You might convince a couple of them, but the overwhelming majority will only double down on their beliefs in the face of criticism. All this will lead to is both sides talking past each other. Finally, it seems like this argument is mainly pushed by those who aren't affected by said racism, which rubs me the wrong way. I've rarely seen minorities make this claim, and I think it's because they are actually affected by this racism. We wouldn't make a Jewish man sit in a room with a Nazi because of potential meaningful conversation. Nor would we do the same between a gay person and a member of the Westboro Baptist church. So I don't understand why people are ok with doing it to minorities. I know people will say that the conversation isn't about the racists, it's about those who might be reading along and I think that is bullshit. Who are you to make that decision for other people? What gives you the right to put another person's mental and emotional well being at risk solely on the off chance that someone else might be convinced not to be racist? I think that is very arrogant and self serving. Anyway, cmv! EDIT: I dont think I was clear about the context of my argument. I am talking about reddit, since you cannot ban people from life lol. My argument addresses users who contribute to subs like coontown. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: I don't think there is any meaningful conversation to be had with racists. As my title states I don't believe there is any meaningful conversation to be had with racists. Recently reddit had a little spat due to the banning of some racist subs. A common argument presented by those who opposed the change was that banning racists closes the door on potentially meaningful conversation. I disagree. Firstly, why are racists needed to have a conversation about racism? What is it about the presence of racists that would make conversations about race any more meaningful? Why can't we have those same conversations without the racists? Secondly, the vast majority of racists arnt going to change their mind because of a conversation on the internet. You might convince a couple of them, but the overwhelming majority will only double down on their beliefs in the face of criticism. All this will lead to is both sides talking past each other. Finally, it seems like this argument is mainly pushed by those who aren't affected by said racism, which rubs me the wrong way. I've rarely seen minorities make this claim, and I think it's because they are actually affected by this racism. We wouldn't make a Jewish man sit in a room with a Nazi because of potential meaningful conversation. Nor would we do the same between a gay person and a member of the Westboro Baptist church. So I don't understand why people are ok with doing it to minorities. I know people will say that the conversation isn't about the racists, it's about those who might be reading along and I think that is bullshit. Who are you to make that decision for other people? What gives you the right to put another person's mental and emotional well being at risk solely on the off chance that someone else might be convinced not to be racist? I think that is very arrogant and self serving. Anyway, cmv! EDIT: I dont think I was clear about the context of my argument. I am talking about reddit, since you cannot ban people from life lol. My argument addresses users who contribute to subs like coontown.
t3_29aizx
CMV: Calling WWII bomber pilots "heroes" is offensive and hypocritical.
To be clear, I'm arguing against the popular assumption that WWII bombers automatically equal heroes. This has been on my mind since I saw a front-page article a couple days ago (I think it was from /r/worldnews, I forget) about an English widow asking people to attend her recently deceased husband's funeral. He had been a bomber in World War 2; I forget whether he was a pilot or what, but that's irrelevant to my argument. The response was universally positive, with people calling him a hero etc. Millions of civilians were killed on both sides during WWII. The majority of Ally-caused civilian deaths were resulted from aerial bombing. Killing civilians is not heroic, it's that simple. Now I'll preemptively counter some potential arguments. **Bombers were just following orders.** That excuse was explicitly rejected by the Allies at the end of the war. Personally I find it more convincing than most do, to the degree that I think it should be a valid argument in court. But I'm not proposing we put this bomber on trial, I just don't think we should celebrate him. **Bombing civilians was necessary to win the war.** Patently false. That strategy was invented to destroy the public's will to fight, but as WWII showed it only makes people fight harder. Being on the right side of the war does not justify your military strategy. **This guy might have only bombed military targets.** It's entirely possible; the article didn't say. But I'm arguing against bombers as a group, not just this guy. If you can prove to me he didn't bomb civilians, I might agree that he specifically is a hero. However, given the prevalence of civilian targeted bombing bombers should be treated as guilty until proven innocent (I mean as a moral question, not in a court of law). **It took a lot of bravery to fly during WWII.** It certainly did, airplanes got shot down all the time and given the choice I'd rather be front-line infantry. But bravery does not a hero make. Plenty of actions require extreme bravery but are nonetheless evil, like 9/11. **The war ended 70 years ago, ex-bombers have since lived lives of peace and contributed positively to society.** I don't doubt it. If I'd met this guy before he died, I'm sure I would find him a pleasant man worthy of respect for the civilian life he's lived. But living a peaceful life does not make you a hero, and it does not undo any evil you may have committed in youth. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Calling WWII bomber pilots "heroes" is offensive and hypocritical. To be clear, I'm arguing against the popular assumption that WWII bombers automatically equal heroes. This has been on my mind since I saw a front-page article a couple days ago (I think it was from /r/worldnews, I forget) about an English widow asking people to attend her recently deceased husband's funeral. He had been a bomber in World War 2; I forget whether he was a pilot or what, but that's irrelevant to my argument. The response was universally positive, with people calling him a hero etc. Millions of civilians were killed on both sides during WWII. The majority of Ally-caused civilian deaths were resulted from aerial bombing. Killing civilians is not heroic, it's that simple. Now I'll preemptively counter some potential arguments. **Bombers were just following orders.** That excuse was explicitly rejected by the Allies at the end of the war. Personally I find it more convincing than most do, to the degree that I think it should be a valid argument in court. But I'm not proposing we put this bomber on trial, I just don't think we should celebrate him. **Bombing civilians was necessary to win the war.** Patently false. That strategy was invented to destroy the public's will to fight, but as WWII showed it only makes people fight harder. Being on the right side of the war does not justify your military strategy. **This guy might have only bombed military targets.** It's entirely possible; the article didn't say. But I'm arguing against bombers as a group, not just this guy. If you can prove to me he didn't bomb civilians, I might agree that he specifically is a hero. However, given the prevalence of civilian targeted bombing bombers should be treated as guilty until proven innocent (I mean as a moral question, not in a court of law). **It took a lot of bravery to fly during WWII.** It certainly did, airplanes got shot down all the time and given the choice I'd rather be front-line infantry. But bravery does not a hero make. Plenty of actions require extreme bravery but are nonetheless evil, like 9/11. **The war ended 70 years ago, ex-bombers have since lived lives of peace and contributed positively to society.** I don't doubt it. If I'd met this guy before he died, I'm sure I would find him a pleasant man worthy of respect for the civilian life he's lived. But living a peaceful life does not make you a hero, and it does not undo any evil you may have committed in youth.
t3_1caztm
I think that having unprotected sex, unless someone is specifically trying to get pregnant or birth control is being used with partners that have been confirmed to be disease free, is horrible idea and never worth the risk. CMV
I posted this comment that describes my view in another subreddit and it got downvoted with no explanation as to why people disagreed with me: I can not understand it. Why would anyone who is not trying to get pregnant (or on birth control and with a confirmed healthy partner) not wear a condom? It is not awkward or hard to bring up and it has never "ruined the mood" for me. It's as simple as being in a hot session where you know things are about to get hotter and saying "Do you have a condom?" Of course it helps to try to keep one/some of your own around so that if they say "no" you can say "that's okay, I do" and continue on. And if you end up in a situation where neither of you have a condom, there are other good options that are not just having sex without one anyway. There are other satisfying sexual acts that can be engaged in intercourse's stead. You can put the act on hold temporarily and go get your penis gloves. Or you can just postpone it to another time when you're more prepared. OR even just give the opportunity a pass. It may not be exactly what you wanted, or how you pictured it, BUT IT IS WORTH IT. There is no lay worth disregarding safeguards against pregnancy and disease. This is the conclusion that I have come to, but if anyone can provide a good argument as to why unprotected sex (other than in the situations I mentioned) is a good idea and worth it, I will certainly change my mind. To quote Tim Minchin, "You show me that it works and how it works, and when I recover from the shock, I will take a compass and carve "fancy that" on the side of my cock!" I'm interested in legitimate arguments for unprotected sex, but I would also like to know the different reasons people currently engage in it (even if it isn't a good or convincing reason), just for the reference.
I think that having unprotected sex, unless someone is specifically trying to get pregnant or birth control is being used with partners that have been confirmed to be disease free, is horrible idea and never worth the risk. CMV. I posted this comment that describes my view in another subreddit and it got downvoted with no explanation as to why people disagreed with me: I can not understand it. Why would anyone who is not trying to get pregnant (or on birth control and with a confirmed healthy partner) not wear a condom? It is not awkward or hard to bring up and it has never "ruined the mood" for me. It's as simple as being in a hot session where you know things are about to get hotter and saying "Do you have a condom?" Of course it helps to try to keep one/some of your own around so that if they say "no" you can say "that's okay, I do" and continue on. And if you end up in a situation where neither of you have a condom, there are other good options that are not just having sex without one anyway. There are other satisfying sexual acts that can be engaged in intercourse's stead. You can put the act on hold temporarily and go get your penis gloves. Or you can just postpone it to another time when you're more prepared. OR even just give the opportunity a pass. It may not be exactly what you wanted, or how you pictured it, BUT IT IS WORTH IT. There is no lay worth disregarding safeguards against pregnancy and disease. This is the conclusion that I have come to, but if anyone can provide a good argument as to why unprotected sex (other than in the situations I mentioned) is a good idea and worth it, I will certainly change my mind. To quote Tim Minchin, "You show me that it works and how it works, and when I recover from the shock, I will take a compass and carve "fancy that" on the side of my cock!" I'm interested in legitimate arguments for unprotected sex, but I would also like to know the different reasons people currently engage in it (even if it isn't a good or convincing reason), just for the reference.
t3_2g2dra
CMV: Woman who sleeps around is a slut but a man who sleeps around is a player
I know this is a very bigoted perspective against women and thus I would like my views to be changed. I believe that in almost any culture, it is far more easier for a woman to get the opportunity to have sex than a man (even in conservative countries). Conversely, if a woman is having sex that means a man is having sex too and here's where my point kicks in. Since it's generally a steep curve for an average man to have sex with a woman, he is considered a "winner" of some sort when he does get laid. No matter how many women he is sleeping with, each woman is considered a challenge for him and thus I think that he's got the game. So when a woman does the same thing, i.e., sleeping around with multiple men, it feels that a man does not even have a challenge. It is simply too easy. She is too easy. Every car gets to hit the pothole. I really want to start thinking that men could also be considered a whore and that a woman can be a player. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Woman who sleeps around is a slut but a man who sleeps around is a player. I know this is a very bigoted perspective against women and thus I would like my views to be changed. I believe that in almost any culture, it is far more easier for a woman to get the opportunity to have sex than a man (even in conservative countries). Conversely, if a woman is having sex that means a man is having sex too and here's where my point kicks in. Since it's generally a steep curve for an average man to have sex with a woman, he is considered a "winner" of some sort when he does get laid. No matter how many women he is sleeping with, each woman is considered a challenge for him and thus I think that he's got the game. So when a woman does the same thing, i.e., sleeping around with multiple men, it feels that a man does not even have a challenge. It is simply too easy. She is too easy. Every car gets to hit the pothole. I really want to start thinking that men could also be considered a whore and that a woman can be a player.
t3_3a27yg
CMV: There was a child who was deaf in my showing of Jurassic Park. He was very noisy. I don't believe he should have gone to the movies, and I think it would have been okay if he were kicked out for being a disturbance.
There was a younger child who was deaf at my showing of Jurassic Park. He was constantly making loud "woo-ing" noises throughout the entire movie, being quite the disturbance. *Edit: He may have another disability as well, it was difficult to tell. Deafness was the only apparent one.* Much of the audience was clearly uncomfortable, but didn't want to ask his guardians or someone from the theater to get him to leave. I was having quite the moral dilemma about it, I didn't ask either, so I'm not saying that anyone was in the wrong about staying quiet. Perhaps he shouldn't have been at the movie to begin with because of the graphic nature of the film, but that wouldn't have been enough to ask him to leave. So, change my view. Even though this child had a clear disability and the disability is why he was being a disturbance, it should be okay for him to be kicked out without repercussion. Edited for grammar. Edited for clarity. ##Edit: Also I'm an idiot, it was Jurassic World, not Jurassic Park. #Deltas: 1. [Changed my view on: he should go to the movies. However, I think that he shouldn't have stayed at the movies after causing the disturbance.](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs8o08l) 2. ~~[Changed my view on: Well, this was just a good point about repercussions.](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs8nx8v)~~ 3. ~~[Changed my view on: If he should have been kicked out. There are legal ramifications on kicking him out.](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs8uyvs)~~ 4. [Changed my view on: well, retracted my view on repercussions](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs98bq1) 5. [Changed my view on: ...well, retracted my change on view about legal ramifications](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs99pzj) Things I do still believe: his guardians/parents should have quieted him or had him leave, ~~but he shouldn't have been kicked out of the movie.~~ If I had spoken to an usher, then the usher could have asked ~~him~~ *edit: his guardians* to be quiet, ~~but that's all I could have expected.~~ *Edit: maybe it would be okay for him to be removed still, struggling with this one.* *Edit: I shouldn't approach the guardians.* Otherwise I would expect to get a refund and go see the movie another time. ~~What a weird conclusion.~~ Without all of the strikethroughs/edits: "his guardians/parents should have quieted him or had him leave. If I had spoken to an usher, then the usher could have asked his guardians to be quiet. Maybe it would be okay for him to be removed still, I'm struggling with this part still. I shouldn't approach the guardians. Otherwise I would expect to get a refund and go see the movie another time. #Current struggle points: * Is his time & enjoyment more valuable than the rest of the moviegoer's combined? * What are arguments against him going to a time dedicated to children/families, a time with significantly less viewers, or some other method of viewing that wouldn't have caused a disturbance to others? #Irrelevant at this point: * I know I can ask the manager for a refund and/or leave. That doesn't address my view, or change it. #Update: At this point, I will only respond to those I feel like are making a good case or I want more information from. I highly encourage continued posting, I am reading absolutely everything and genuinely interested in what people are saying. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: There was a child who was deaf in my showing of Jurassic Park. He was very noisy. I don't believe he should have gone to the movies, and I think it would have been okay if he were kicked out for being a disturbance. There was a younger child who was deaf at my showing of Jurassic Park. He was constantly making loud "woo-ing" noises throughout the entire movie, being quite the disturbance. *Edit: He may have another disability as well, it was difficult to tell. Deafness was the only apparent one.* Much of the audience was clearly uncomfortable, but didn't want to ask his guardians or someone from the theater to get him to leave. I was having quite the moral dilemma about it, I didn't ask either, so I'm not saying that anyone was in the wrong about staying quiet. Perhaps he shouldn't have been at the movie to begin with because of the graphic nature of the film, but that wouldn't have been enough to ask him to leave. So, change my view. Even though this child had a clear disability and the disability is why he was being a disturbance, it should be okay for him to be kicked out without repercussion. Edited for grammar. Edited for clarity. ##Edit: Also I'm an idiot, it was Jurassic World, not Jurassic Park. #Deltas: 1. [Changed my view on: he should go to the movies. However, I think that he shouldn't have stayed at the movies after causing the disturbance.](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs8o08l) 2. ~~[Changed my view on: Well, this was just a good point about repercussions.](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs8nx8v)~~ 3. ~~[Changed my view on: If he should have been kicked out. There are legal ramifications on kicking him out.](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs8uyvs)~~ 4. [Changed my view on: well, retracted my view on repercussions](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs98bq1) 5. [Changed my view on: ...well, retracted my change on view about legal ramifications](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3a27yg/cmv_there_was_a_child_who_was_deaf_in_my_showing/cs99pzj) Things I do still believe: his guardians/parents should have quieted him or had him leave, ~~but he shouldn't have been kicked out of the movie.~~ If I had spoken to an usher, then the usher could have asked ~~him~~ *edit: his guardians* to be quiet, ~~but that's all I could have expected.~~ *Edit: maybe it would be okay for him to be removed still, struggling with this one.* *Edit: I shouldn't approach the guardians.* Otherwise I would expect to get a refund and go see the movie another time. ~~What a weird conclusion.~~ Without all of the strikethroughs/edits: "his guardians/parents should have quieted him or had him leave. If I had spoken to an usher, then the usher could have asked his guardians to be quiet. Maybe it would be okay for him to be removed still, I'm struggling with this part still. I shouldn't approach the guardians. Otherwise I would expect to get a refund and go see the movie another time. #Current struggle points: * Is his time & enjoyment more valuable than the rest of the moviegoer's combined? * What are arguments against him going to a time dedicated to children/families, a time with significantly less viewers, or some other method of viewing that wouldn't have caused a disturbance to others? #Irrelevant at this point: * I know I can ask the manager for a refund and/or leave. That doesn't address my view, or change it. #Update: At this point, I will only respond to those I feel like are making a good case or I want more information from. I highly encourage continued posting, I am reading absolutely everything and genuinely interested in what people are saying.
t3_5xpnzw
CMV: I don't believe automation will be widespread across all industries and take the majority of jobs in our lifetimes.
My opinion on this is based more on the consumer side of things than the likelihood of corporations to implement automated processes in their businesses. I believe that if a company replaces most or all of its workers with robots, there would be a drop in the amount of consumers interested in their product. Now I understand that for certain occupations this is not true, but for most things I believe people like having human interactions with other people. I would rather have my order taken by a human being than selecting an item from a menu msot of the time, and I have spoken to a lot of people about it and they have similar views. Likewise, if I'm looking to invest, I would rather invest after speaking with a human being than if I simply heard the best choices for me from a machine. Next, I feel as if this would be suicide for most fields. If there are no low waged individuals, who is going to buy the goods or services? Even services that would be have automation would collapse. If no one goes to the doctor or dentist because they don't have any money, then the field will collapse as well. Obviously that's simplified, but hopefully you get what I mean. I don't think a Ubi would really make a difference either. Lastly, I think the cost of implementation is too high for most business to purchase the technology. Even if prices drop in the future, it will remain too high for small businesses, and I don't believe people will be comfortable using a huge corporation for everything. As in, I'll go to Walmart to buy food, but I'm not going to Walmart to buy my clothes. I'm typing this on mobile, so if any part is vague, ask and I'll clarify.
CMV: I don't believe automation will be widespread across all industries and take the majority of jobs in our lifetimes. My opinion on this is based more on the consumer side of things than the likelihood of corporations to implement automated processes in their businesses. I believe that if a company replaces most or all of its workers with robots, there would be a drop in the amount of consumers interested in their product. Now I understand that for certain occupations this is not true, but for most things I believe people like having human interactions with other people. I would rather have my order taken by a human being than selecting an item from a menu msot of the time, and I have spoken to a lot of people about it and they have similar views. Likewise, if I'm looking to invest, I would rather invest after speaking with a human being than if I simply heard the best choices for me from a machine. Next, I feel as if this would be suicide for most fields. If there are no low waged individuals, who is going to buy the goods or services? Even services that would be have automation would collapse. If no one goes to the doctor or dentist because they don't have any money, then the field will collapse as well. Obviously that's simplified, but hopefully you get what I mean. I don't think a Ubi would really make a difference either. Lastly, I think the cost of implementation is too high for most business to purchase the technology. Even if prices drop in the future, it will remain too high for small businesses, and I don't believe people will be comfortable using a huge corporation for everything. As in, I'll go to Walmart to buy food, but I'm not going to Walmart to buy my clothes. I'm typing this on mobile, so if any part is vague, ask and I'll clarify.
t3_19umvm
I don't understand why many Americans deify their founding fathers, and I feel as though I'm missing something obvious. CMV.
The founders were obviously ahead of their time in many ways, and I think that they should be admired, but I don't understand why what the founders would have wanted (with regard to modern policy and government) should be considered. For reference, I am Canadian.
I don't understand why many Americans deify their founding fathers, and I feel as though I'm missing something obvious. CMV. . The founders were obviously ahead of their time in many ways, and I think that they should be admired, but I don't understand why what the founders would have wanted (with regard to modern policy and government) should be considered. For reference, I am Canadian.
t3_1k06o4
I believe that there is no such thing as true altruism. CMV
Altruism is essentially defined as pure selflessness. The people who commit random acts of kindness may seem like they're doing these acts purely out of the goodness of their hearts, but deep down, on a different psychological plane, I don't think anybody can do anything that is purely unselfish. Say somebody 'pays it forward' by purchasing a coffee for the next person to come through the line in a Starbucks. Even if the person who was paid for has no idea who did this act of kindness, the thought still remains that somebody did indeed do this for them. The person who originally paid it forward also knows this. Even if I were to take a bullet and die for someone, supposedly the ultimate act of altruism, one could argue that deep down, some buried part of me would want to be self glorified, and praised for my actions, and remembered by the person I saved and many others. And truly, I think they would be right, to a point. If I were to do this for my girlfriend, who I love dearly, more than anybody else in the world, and would do anything for, I'm sure that 99.99% of my intentions would be unselfish. But it wouldn't be purely altruistic. There would be the infinitesimally small part of me that would be selfish about it. But perhaps I'm simply a cynical asshole. CMV, fellas.
I believe that there is no such thing as true altruism. CMV. Altruism is essentially defined as pure selflessness. The people who commit random acts of kindness may seem like they're doing these acts purely out of the goodness of their hearts, but deep down, on a different psychological plane, I don't think anybody can do anything that is purely unselfish. Say somebody 'pays it forward' by purchasing a coffee for the next person to come through the line in a Starbucks. Even if the person who was paid for has no idea who did this act of kindness, the thought still remains that somebody did indeed do this for them. The person who originally paid it forward also knows this. Even if I were to take a bullet and die for someone, supposedly the ultimate act of altruism, one could argue that deep down, some buried part of me would want to be self glorified, and praised for my actions, and remembered by the person I saved and many others. And truly, I think they would be right, to a point. If I were to do this for my girlfriend, who I love dearly, more than anybody else in the world, and would do anything for, I'm sure that 99.99% of my intentions would be unselfish. But it wouldn't be purely altruistic. There would be the infinitesimally small part of me that would be selfish about it. But perhaps I'm simply a cynical asshole. CMV, fellas.
t3_1gire4
I believe that, in a democratic country, anyone who does not act on their campaign promises, should be removed from office. CMV.
In a government in which people vote others into power, lying is the on of the biggest offenses I can imagine you could do. If someone gains the trust of the people and then completely throws what got them there in the first place out the window, they cannot be trusted to do anything else. They need to be forcibly removed with no compensation, and should not be allowed back into office.
I believe that, in a democratic country, anyone who does not act on their campaign promises, should be removed from office. CMV. In a government in which people vote others into power, lying is the on of the biggest offenses I can imagine you could do. If someone gains the trust of the people and then completely throws what got them there in the first place out the window, they cannot be trusted to do anything else. They need to be forcibly removed with no compensation, and should not be allowed back into office.
t3_5pwhke
CMV:I think European policies about immigration/refugee crisis are mostly based on an emotional argument rather than a logical one. It doesn't make sense.
I think decisions regarding immigration policies/refugee crisis shouldn't be based on emotional arguments. This means that arguments like"children are dying/ X country has been bombed/Y country is in a terrible situation" should play no role when deciding about these type of policies. I think that most European policies have been based on this type of argument (until now, at least). If this type of argument is valid, then our government should increase taxation to help starving children in Africa. Without the emotional argument immigration policies would likely follow this scheme: 1) Computing the number of people we need in our contry to have X growth - ergo accept the number of individuals until we reach break even 2) Select people based on their qualifications/ knowledge. For instance, if our country needs doctors, we favour doctors. If there is no particular need for a certain type of worker, we favour those who already speak the language. Implementing this plan would result in less taxpayer money devoted to financial aid/resources for refugees and immigrants. This money could be used for other purposes. By contrast, by not applying a similair policy more people enter our country and more financial aid is required for them. Note: i know that refugees and economic immigrants are two different things. I wanted to add refugees to the post because in this case the emotional argument is used more often. However, one could argue that refugees are accepted in small numbers (compared to economic immigrants, legal or not) and that those figures don't really influence our society. That's why i am using both categories. Note2: believe it or not i have nothing against immigrants or refugees. My father was an immigrant. I just think that in this matter empathy is winning over rationality and it doesn't make sense for me. _____ > *This is a footnote from the CMV moderators. We'd like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV:I think European policies about immigration/refugee crisis are mostly based on an emotional argument rather than a logical one. It doesn't make sense. I think decisions regarding immigration policies/refugee crisis shouldn't be based on emotional arguments. This means that arguments like"children are dying/ X country has been bombed/Y country is in a terrible situation" should play no role when deciding about these type of policies. I think that most European policies have been based on this type of argument (until now, at least). If this type of argument is valid, then our government should increase taxation to help starving children in Africa. Without the emotional argument immigration policies would likely follow this scheme: 1) Computing the number of people we need in our contry to have X growth - ergo accept the number of individuals until we reach break even 2) Select people based on their qualifications/ knowledge. For instance, if our country needs doctors, we favour doctors. If there is no particular need for a certain type of worker, we favour those who already speak the language. Implementing this plan would result in less taxpayer money devoted to financial aid/resources for refugees and immigrants. This money could be used for other purposes. By contrast, by not applying a similair policy more people enter our country and more financial aid is required for them. Note: i know that refugees and economic immigrants are two different things. I wanted to add refugees to the post because in this case the emotional argument is used more often. However, one could argue that refugees are accepted in small numbers (compared to economic immigrants, legal or not) and that those figures don't really influence our society. That's why i am using both categories. Note2: believe it or not i have nothing against immigrants or refugees. My father was an immigrant. I just think that in this matter empathy is winning over rationality and it doesn't make sense for me.
t3_4akbal
CMV: A Child Does Not Have a Right To "A Mother and Father"
A common argument I hear from opponents of gay marriage is that a child has an inherent right to be raised by a mother and father. This statement seems to come out of nowhere to me. If a baby does have any positive rights from its parents, the only ones that seem relevant are to be loved, cared for, protected, and raised to participate in society. I don't see what justification this argument has that doesn't just rely on an appeal to nature. Note: This is not an argument about gay marriage. I can see how somebody could accept that a child has a right to a mother and father but still support gay marriage. I might after this topic. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: A Child Does Not Have a Right To "A Mother and Father". A common argument I hear from opponents of gay marriage is that a child has an inherent right to be raised by a mother and father. This statement seems to come out of nowhere to me. If a baby does have any positive rights from its parents, the only ones that seem relevant are to be loved, cared for, protected, and raised to participate in society. I don't see what justification this argument has that doesn't just rely on an appeal to nature. Note: This is not an argument about gay marriage. I can see how somebody could accept that a child has a right to a mother and father but still support gay marriage. I might after this topic.
t3_1p3haf
I think people who blame Obama for the shut down are idiots. CMV
I personally think that John Boehner was responsible for the shutdown. I think he allowed it to happen because he was pressured by Tea Party candidates, and he was afraid of losing his next election if he lost Tea Party support. Its a very complicated issue though, and probably all our congressmen are to blame. That being said, I don't think that President Obama in any way can take responsibility for the shut down. POTUS isn't responsible for passing a budget. Some people blame Obamacare for the shutdown. I can understand (even though I disagree) if people blame the Affordable Care Act, but this was passed by Congress. Even though it may have been a White House initiative, Congress passed the bill. I honestly think its just that Obamacare has "Obama-" in it, and so ignorant people who shouldn't be allowed to vote (jk) who blame Obama for the shut down. CMV. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57608707/poll-post-shutdown-congress-disapproval-at-all-time-high/
I think people who blame Obama for the shut down are idiots. CMV. I personally think that John Boehner was responsible for the shutdown. I think he allowed it to happen because he was pressured by Tea Party candidates, and he was afraid of losing his next election if he lost Tea Party support. Its a very complicated issue though, and probably all our congressmen are to blame. That being said, I don't think that President Obama in any way can take responsibility for the shut down. POTUS isn't responsible for passing a budget. Some people blame Obamacare for the shutdown. I can understand (even though I disagree) if people blame the Affordable Care Act, but this was passed by Congress. Even though it may have been a White House initiative, Congress passed the bill. I honestly think its just that Obamacare has "Obama-" in it, and so ignorant people who shouldn't be allowed to vote (jk) who blame Obama for the shut down. CMV. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57608707/poll-post-shutdown-congress-disapproval-at-all-time-high/
t3_2c0gpr
CMV: I believe that people with above average reading speed who text and drive have moral superiority over slow readers who text and drive
Today I was at the DMV in line at an automated registration sticker dispenser. You go through a few prompts and it dishes out new registration documents. I realize I'm going /r/iamverysmart on you guys, but the dead hesitation I witnessed as each person went through the prompts kind of blew my mind. The woman ahead of me got to a prompt that said something like "Session about to expire due to inactivity, touch anywhere on the screen in the next 15 seconds to continue." I can't describe how tempted I was to step in and touch the screen as she was processing this sentence. She almost jumped when she realized what was going on. The guy after her chose the "Spanish" option, and I still could have done it 3x quicker. Already I'm guessing there will be animosity at me being condescending or thinking I'm some kind of savant. Really I'm of average intelligence but grew up privileged and my parents ensured that I was good at reading at a young age. I just read quickly. What clinched it for me was when they had to enter their prior registration number. One... digit... at... a... time. Even though I'm not of great intelligence, I know that most people are orders of magnitude worse at processing information than I am. For this reason I feel better poised to handle texting and driving. Lately I've been putting my phone in the back of the car to quit the habit, but I've done it consistently for 8 years and if I read like most people then this wouldn't be possible. CMV by explaining why I should feel equally bad regardless of my texting/driving ability.
CMV: I believe that people with above average reading speed who text and drive have moral superiority over slow readers who text and drive. Today I was at the DMV in line at an automated registration sticker dispenser. You go through a few prompts and it dishes out new registration documents. I realize I'm going /r/iamverysmart on you guys, but the dead hesitation I witnessed as each person went through the prompts kind of blew my mind. The woman ahead of me got to a prompt that said something like "Session about to expire due to inactivity, touch anywhere on the screen in the next 15 seconds to continue." I can't describe how tempted I was to step in and touch the screen as she was processing this sentence. She almost jumped when she realized what was going on. The guy after her chose the "Spanish" option, and I still could have done it 3x quicker. Already I'm guessing there will be animosity at me being condescending or thinking I'm some kind of savant. Really I'm of average intelligence but grew up privileged and my parents ensured that I was good at reading at a young age. I just read quickly. What clinched it for me was when they had to enter their prior registration number. One... digit... at... a... time. Even though I'm not of great intelligence, I know that most people are orders of magnitude worse at processing information than I am. For this reason I feel better poised to handle texting and driving. Lately I've been putting my phone in the back of the car to quit the habit, but I've done it consistently for 8 years and if I read like most people then this wouldn't be possible. CMV by explaining why I should feel equally bad regardless of my texting/driving ability.
t3_715l2z
CMV: All levels of education should be privatized
I believe that all levels education should be privatized. The main reason I hold this is belief is because I think it would drastically increase the quality of education itself. If we allowed entrepreneurs the chance to create “startup” schools, it could revolutionize the way people learn while increasing salaries for teachers, making teaching a more desirable profession for talented individuals. This would also cause the sheer number of schools to increase, allowing for smaller classroom sizes and more personalized education for students This should be done while also reducing taxes so that people could end up paying less money for a better education. _____ > *This is a footnote from the CMV moderators. We'd like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: All levels of education should be privatized. I believe that all levels education should be privatized. The main reason I hold this is belief is because I think it would drastically increase the quality of education itself. If we allowed entrepreneurs the chance to create “startup” schools, it could revolutionize the way people learn while increasing salaries for teachers, making teaching a more desirable profession for talented individuals. This would also cause the sheer number of schools to increase, allowing for smaller classroom sizes and more personalized education for students This should be done while also reducing taxes so that people could end up paying less money for a better education.
t3_48u9qn
CMV: Alimony shouldn't exist with the exception of dire circumstances like abuse.
Alimony should be abolished and when a couple divorces marital assets should be split down the middle as closely as possible. Children should be given a 50/50 time split with no support going either way. The obvious caveats would be if: One parent cannot afford the children on their 50% time, then they can relinquish their custody and pay support. One parent wants to move away, then they lose their 50% of the time and pay support for just the children. One parent for any other reason decides they don't want a 50/50 time split and relinquishes their half time, then they would also pay support. There is provable abuse (100% enough to gain a conviction in a court of law) then the abuser loses custody and child support/alimony can be awarded. Otherwise it should be you divorce a person you divorce their money. I can't find any justifiable reason to award continuing payments after a relationship ends. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Alimony shouldn't exist with the exception of dire circumstances like abuse. Alimony should be abolished and when a couple divorces marital assets should be split down the middle as closely as possible. Children should be given a 50/50 time split with no support going either way. The obvious caveats would be if: One parent cannot afford the children on their 50% time, then they can relinquish their custody and pay support. One parent wants to move away, then they lose their 50% of the time and pay support for just the children. One parent for any other reason decides they don't want a 50/50 time split and relinquishes their half time, then they would also pay support. There is provable abuse (100% enough to gain a conviction in a court of law) then the abuser loses custody and child support/alimony can be awarded. Otherwise it should be you divorce a person you divorce their money. I can't find any justifiable reason to award continuing payments after a relationship ends.
t3_4qujd2
CMV: Barack Obama is the 43rd President of the United States.
Barack Obama is usually referred to as the 44th President of the United States. They say that on [his White House Biography.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president-obama) And [his Wikipedia page.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama) But he is not the 44th person to be President. He is the 43rd person to be President. [Grover Cleveland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Cleveland) is counted as the 22nd **and** 24th President of the United States. This is because he was elected once, then defeated for re-election, then ran again and won a re-match. The ordinal position assigned to Cleveland seems silly to me. Grover Cleveland was the 22nd President of the United States. The fact that he was later elected again does not make him the 24th President also. We don't count 2nd terms in office as new Presidents, and we should not count them when they're nonconsecutive either. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Barack Obama is the 43rd President of the United States. Barack Obama is usually referred to as the 44th President of the United States. They say that on [his White House Biography.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president-obama) And [his Wikipedia page.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama) But he is not the 44th person to be President. He is the 43rd person to be President. [Grover Cleveland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Cleveland) is counted as the 22nd **and** 24th President of the United States. This is because he was elected once, then defeated for re-election, then ran again and won a re-match. The ordinal position assigned to Cleveland seems silly to me. Grover Cleveland was the 22nd President of the United States. The fact that he was later elected again does not make him the 24th President also. We don't count 2nd terms in office as new Presidents, and we should not count them when they're nonconsecutive either.
t3_3b5qce
CMV: People who say sportsman should be payed less, know nothing about markets.
So, I've recently came across a lot of people with the opinion of "How can C. Ronaldo be payed millions to run after a ball and teachers be payed little money? Teachers should make even more money than Ronaldo." I agree with the, teachers should be payed more than they make now, part (Brazillian here, so teachers tend to be somewhat poor. Probably also applies to US and part of Europe), but I just have to disagree with Ronaldo should be payed less. First of, the market sets soccer players salary, secondly, soccer makes trillions of dollars a year worldwide, it is only fair that players get a cut. Third, they are adding value to people lives. When you pay 50$ for a ticket, you are expecting to get 50$ or more worth of value off of that, or even more. Sportsman hence, generate a lot of fucking value. To give you a different example, music. Taylor Swift sold god knows how many millions of copies of her new album. That means that millions of people willingly traded their 10 bucks, or whatever that album cost, for copies. Nobody was forced to buy it, judging by her fans reactions all parties are satisfied with the deal. She (and her team) created millions worth of value to her fans, only fair they make millions. And last, to those who say "it's fucking easy, no one should make that much money by running after a ball / creating generic tracks", it fucking isn't easy. Edit: teachers should be payed more, but not more than Ronaldo. Edit 2: When I said teachers could make more, I meant public teachers. Private ones follow open (sorta) market rules. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: People who say sportsman should be payed less, know nothing about markets. So, I've recently came across a lot of people with the opinion of "How can C. Ronaldo be payed millions to run after a ball and teachers be payed little money? Teachers should make even more money than Ronaldo." I agree with the, teachers should be payed more than they make now, part (Brazillian here, so teachers tend to be somewhat poor. Probably also applies to US and part of Europe), but I just have to disagree with Ronaldo should be payed less. First of, the market sets soccer players salary, secondly, soccer makes trillions of dollars a year worldwide, it is only fair that players get a cut. Third, they are adding value to people lives. When you pay 50$ for a ticket, you are expecting to get 50$ or more worth of value off of that, or even more. Sportsman hence, generate a lot of fucking value. To give you a different example, music. Taylor Swift sold god knows how many millions of copies of her new album. That means that millions of people willingly traded their 10 bucks, or whatever that album cost, for copies. Nobody was forced to buy it, judging by her fans reactions all parties are satisfied with the deal. She (and her team) created millions worth of value to her fans, only fair they make millions. And last, to those who say "it's fucking easy, no one should make that much money by running after a ball / creating generic tracks", it fucking isn't easy. Edit: teachers should be payed more, but not more than Ronaldo. Edit 2: When I said teachers could make more, I meant public teachers. Private ones follow open (sorta) market rules.
t3_4w1gil
CMV: Black people are the best of all Humans
I am a white guy. It is evident that black people are better and more capable than all other human races. 1. Black people are on average genetically stronger, taller and faster. 2. Black people are smart; just as smart as any other human race. (Asians are stereotypically smarter as a result of socialization and cultural ideologies) 3. Black people are biologically equipped to handle harsher weather conditions due to their skin color. 4. Black people have features that society adores (big penis', boobs, ass, etc) I realize in many respects, black people are the same as any other human being. But the small differences that do exist, give them quite the advantage. _____ > *Hello, users of CMV! This is a footnote from your moderators. We'd just like to remind you of a couple of things. Firstly, please remember to* ***[read through our rules](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/rules)***. *If you see a comment that has broken one, it is more effective to report it than downvote it. Speaking of which,* ***[downvotes don't change views](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/guidelines#wiki_upvoting.2Fdownvoting)****! If you are thinking about submitting a CMV yourself, please have a look through our* ***[popular topics wiki](http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/populartopics)*** *first. Any questions or concerns? Feel free to* ***[message us](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/changemyview)***. *Happy CMVing!*
CMV: Black people are the best of all Humans. I am a white guy. It is evident that black people are better and more capable than all other human races. 1. Black people are on average genetically stronger, taller and faster. 2. Black people are smart; just as smart as any other human race. (Asians are stereotypically smarter as a result of socialization and cultural ideologies) 3. Black people are biologically equipped to handle harsher weather conditions due to their skin color. 4. Black people have features that society adores (big penis', boobs, ass, etc) I realize in many respects, black people are the same as any other human being. But the small differences that do exist, give them quite the advantage.
t3_1fz18u
I believe the Occupy Movement is too disorganized and incapable of accomplishing anything. CMV
I was in my second year of college when the Occupy Protests began sprouting up, and at first thought they could really make a difference and possibly bring forward economic justice. But as the movement continues it doesn't seem to have any plan, just a bunch of disorganized wannabe Che Guevaras that go out and protest because it's "fun and exciting". Without any leaders it seems no one can articulate exactly what needs to change and how they want to change it. Compared to other nonviolent movements Occupy is a joke, has no real direction, and has become stagnant and dead.
I believe the Occupy Movement is too disorganized and incapable of accomplishing anything. CMV. I was in my second year of college when the Occupy Protests began sprouting up, and at first thought they could really make a difference and possibly bring forward economic justice. But as the movement continues it doesn't seem to have any plan, just a bunch of disorganized wannabe Che Guevaras that go out and protest because it's "fun and exciting". Without any leaders it seems no one can articulate exactly what needs to change and how they want to change it. Compared to other nonviolent movements Occupy is a joke, has no real direction, and has become stagnant and dead.