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rx1wux | 73 | Tesla Tech vs Other Cars Tech Hey guys so I m looking into getting a Tesla (probably a Y) and why I was mainly attracted to the company and its cars was due to the abundance of standard technology features it offers and that it can be considered a luxury car as a whole. I just had a question about how this technology especially autopilot separates itself from other cars since other cars also have driver assistance features. What makes Tesla Autopilot different from other driver assistance features and what other tech features does tesla have a greater advantage with? I know some information can be found online I just wanted to get some insight from people who have the car or have greater experiences with its technology. Thank you everybody! | Teslas autopilot is much more capable than the simple lane keeping and distance aware cruise control of other. Whilst others do have these same features you often „swim“ from one edge of the lane to the other and back. Teslas autopilot on the other hand really „locks“ in the middle of the lane and stays there even in sharper corners where other driving assists plainly stop working. Also it works on any street not just premapped ones although it s current use is intended for highways. The cruise control is also much smarter. It doesn t just keep the distance it also is aware of the other cars. For example: I live in Germany where it s illegal to overtake on the right. And autopilot actually slows down if a car in the lane left of me drives slower than I do and I would overtake it with my set speed. Also if you buy fsd it stops on red lights stop signs and sometimes even on yield signs. Autopark is also more advanced. Whilst it isn t always available (and god knows why) when it s available it s great. On other car brands when you have a parking assist feature you are mostly still required to accelerate and brake on your own. The car only steers. In a Tesla the car does everything. In parallel spots as well as in perpendicular ones. The app connection between the car and your phone also works much more reliable. The Audi app for example can t connect 70% of the time to the etron of my in-laws and when it does it often can t reliably turn the heat on as it loses connection in the process. Then you have the summon feature if you buy fsd which lets you move the car with your mobile phone from outside. Only other car that can do a similar thing is currently the Ioniq 5 which can Autopark whilst you are outside the car. Hope we will get this from Tesla soon too. That s the next thing. The updates. Sometimes they fuck things up royally but at least you have a chance to get features your car is physically capable of but can t do them yet. Of course there are other brands that can do one or the other thing as well as Tesla but Tesla is the only one that can do all of this and without being bound to a specific situation (like level 3 autonomous driving from Mercedes which can only be used in traffic jam on the German autobahn whilst driving slower than 60kmh or GMs SuperCruise which is dependent on premapped roads). | As others have said over the air updates. The car gets better as it goes. My wife s Hyundai Palisade has a pretty good lane departure system but it s still the same as it was the day she got it. My 3 now stops at red lights :) | 96 | 13 | 9,306 |
rx1wux | 73 | Tesla Tech vs Other Cars Tech Hey guys so I m looking into getting a Tesla (probably a Y) and why I was mainly attracted to the company and its cars was due to the abundance of standard technology features it offers and that it can be considered a luxury car as a whole. I just had a question about how this technology especially autopilot separates itself from other cars since other cars also have driver assistance features. What makes Tesla Autopilot different from other driver assistance features and what other tech features does tesla have a greater advantage with? I know some information can be found online I just wanted to get some insight from people who have the car or have greater experiences with its technology. Thank you everybody! | My main thing with the car that I love is just how seamless it is. You defrost the car on your phone 5 minutes before leaving open the door don t start a thing—just go. Don t have to stop the car to change from reverse to drive don t need to park just stop and open the door your Spotify automatically plays when you get in volume goes down when you open the door etc. Just really convenient. | And there is no other car on the market that allows you to play fart sounds under any seat in the car! That in itself puts Tesla in a class all its own. | 84 | 2 | 9,307 |
rx1wux | 73 | Tesla Tech vs Other Cars Tech Hey guys so I m looking into getting a Tesla (probably a Y) and why I was mainly attracted to the company and its cars was due to the abundance of standard technology features it offers and that it can be considered a luxury car as a whole. I just had a question about how this technology especially autopilot separates itself from other cars since other cars also have driver assistance features. What makes Tesla Autopilot different from other driver assistance features and what other tech features does tesla have a greater advantage with? I know some information can be found online I just wanted to get some insight from people who have the car or have greater experiences with its technology. Thank you everybody! | My main thing with the car that I love is just how seamless it is. You defrost the car on your phone 5 minutes before leaving open the door don t start a thing—just go. Don t have to stop the car to change from reverse to drive don t need to park just stop and open the door your Spotify automatically plays when you get in volume goes down when you open the door etc. Just really convenient. | There s no comparison. Tesla is leagues beyond | 84 | 5 | 9,308 |
rz41is | 3,059 | Petition to ban Teslarati It s all clickbait almost all of the “articles” are based on single tweets old news or copied content. Most of their ads are for scams. Content shouldn t be allowed in here simply because it s pro Tesla. The place is practically a fucking puppy mill. Garbage should be thrown away. Edit: “2 more replies” on the sticky at the top has the votes they are counting. I hope you speed readers are noticing that. | Just to add I m a mod over at r electricvehicles. We ve been discussing Teslarati as well. Our current plan is for a stickied Automod comment warning readers that the article may be misleading. Depending on the feedback we get we may end abandoning them entirely as well. | Yes | 314 | 2 | 9,309 |
rz41is | 3,059 | Petition to ban Teslarati It s all clickbait almost all of the “articles” are based on single tweets old news or copied content. Most of their ads are for scams. Content shouldn t be allowed in here simply because it s pro Tesla. The place is practically a fucking puppy mill. Garbage should be thrown away. Edit: “2 more replies” on the sticky at the top has the votes they are counting. I hope you speed readers are noticing that. | Just to add I m a mod over at r electricvehicles. We ve been discussing Teslarati as well. Our current plan is for a stickied Automod comment warning readers that the article may be misleading. Depending on the feedback we get we may end abandoning them entirely as well. | Yes | 314 | 2 | 9,310 |
rz41is | 3,059 | Petition to ban Teslarati It s all clickbait almost all of the “articles” are based on single tweets old news or copied content. Most of their ads are for scams. Content shouldn t be allowed in here simply because it s pro Tesla. The place is practically a fucking puppy mill. Garbage should be thrown away. Edit: “2 more replies” on the sticky at the top has the votes they are counting. I hope you speed readers are noticing that. | Just to add I m a mod over at r electricvehicles. We ve been discussing Teslarati as well. Our current plan is for a stickied Automod comment warning readers that the article may be misleading. Depending on the feedback we get we may end abandoning them entirely as well. | Yes ban | 314 | 2 | 9,311 |
rzk5te | 738 | Testing Camp mode in the worst case Tesla. I drive a 2019 SR+. Small battery no double glass no heat pump. I decided to simulate being stuck on the highway. Drove until battery warmed up then at 5 PM just after sunset parked at 66% SOC. Set Camp Mode at 65F. No seat heaters no warm people inside. Over the next 7 hours the external temperature dropped from 20F to 13F. The SOC dropped from 66% to 47%. That s 2.7% an hour. [Edit: Thanks for the awards!] So with a full charge I could certainly last well over a day in the worst Tesla. | Don t be so hard on your car. The regular SR is worse 😂 | Man I have the worst Tesla too. 😢 | 325 | 20 | 9,312 |
rzk5te | 738 | Testing Camp mode in the worst case Tesla. I drive a 2019 SR+. Small battery no double glass no heat pump. I decided to simulate being stuck on the highway. Drove until battery warmed up then at 5 PM just after sunset parked at 66% SOC. Set Camp Mode at 65F. No seat heaters no warm people inside. Over the next 7 hours the external temperature dropped from 20F to 13F. The SOC dropped from 66% to 47%. That s 2.7% an hour. [Edit: Thanks for the awards!] So with a full charge I could certainly last well over a day in the worst Tesla. | I did something similar recently. I went snowboarding in the same configuration and model year and then I used camp mode. Went from 80-55% overnight but I was running 80 degrees and it was 7° out. I don t need judgment for the high temperature I had gone in the hot springs and ended up wet and cold. | Man I have the worst Tesla too. 😢 | 107 | 20 | 9,313 |
rzk5te | 738 | Testing Camp mode in the worst case Tesla. I drive a 2019 SR+. Small battery no double glass no heat pump. I decided to simulate being stuck on the highway. Drove until battery warmed up then at 5 PM just after sunset parked at 66% SOC. Set Camp Mode at 65F. No seat heaters no warm people inside. Over the next 7 hours the external temperature dropped from 20F to 13F. The SOC dropped from 66% to 47%. That s 2.7% an hour. [Edit: Thanks for the awards!] So with a full charge I could certainly last well over a day in the worst Tesla. | I did something similar recently. I went snowboarding in the same configuration and model year and then I used camp mode. Went from 80-55% overnight but I was running 80 degrees and it was 7° out. I don t need judgment for the high temperature I had gone in the hot springs and ended up wet and cold. | Dirty Tesla just [posted this video where he tested an older Model X and a newer Y to see how long the battery would last if you were stuck in a winter traffic jam.](https: youtu.be i3E0t0kGeug) | 107 | 28 | 9,314 |
rzspcc | 289 | What do you want!? ## [What do you want!?](https: media.giphy.com media GDqDZOPSZJC00 giphy.gif) Hey everyone! Not sure if you noticed… but we re not so little anymore. It s a little bittersweet if I m being honest. If I were to categorize us I wouldn t say we re like obnoxious kids jumping on the bed anymore but like 23-year-olds only have been drinking for a couple years. We ve made some bad decisions but we re growing from our experiences. I don t know how long you ve been with us but I ve been here for a very long time and I ve seen some crazy changes. For those of you that have been here for a while you know what I m talking about (free reign) but for those who are new it can seem pretty strict and I ll explain why and give you a little background. When things were young we had so few owners and so little news about Tesla that it was pretty easy to balance content. Between peoples personal experiences and the latest thing Tesla is working on. Often times specific to a couple models it made it easy to let things flow. But that was when we were between 50 000 and 500 000 subscribers. Not so easy with over 1.5 Million… There are *way* more owners now and way more products and areas Tesla is exploring. And that meant we had to evolve. What that meant was as news about the company grew peoples personal experiences seemed to have less of a voice. Some considered that censorship but the truth is that you have to balance noise with the bread and butter on details on the company. So we created r TeslaLounge. A place for your experiences stories trips service details and the questions that maybe didn t require so many people to see. Every now and again we let that sort of content flow through so the questions that affect more people are seen. Even if it s not specifically “about the company“. We re sorry if we haven t communicated that well but we re doing our best. We know many of you thrive on “when am I going to get the beta!?” and have opinions like “what the hell Elon!?”. We re with you and we get it. We don t all think what Musk or Tesla does is the right thing but our goal is still to keep this place fun and exciting even though it may not always seem that way. Anyways enough of the rambling. The point of this post is a little follow up from [yesterday](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments rz41is petition_to_ban_teslarati hrt7f2s ) to understand what people enjoy seeing. I understand that s very broad and there will be extremes across all sides of the spectrum. Our goal is still to make this a fun community and at least *still try* to make the most people happy. I am always told that s never possible (to make everyone happy) and I get this but I believe there s always a balance that can be maintained and we ll strive for it. Here is a general idea of where our thoughts are today: r TeslaMotors * Higher Quality Content and Articles * News on Tesla s efforts plans and actions including the latest breaking news content * Questions Answers that benefit a large audience of owners (and prospective owners) r TeslaLounge * Personal Experiences * Wallpaper-quality Photos * General questions * Less overall moderation Our goal is to have *you* share *everything* you can find across the web (Twitter YouTube articles pictures) that support the above for each and get people excited about what Tesla is doing. We understand not everyone is going to be on the same wavelength and that s okay but we want people to stay on topic move the discussion forward and try to avoid being an insufferable ass… if possible. We want people to focus on a positive and optimistic future and overall thriving community because that s what excites us. We want things that will help the most people even if that includes the mundane questions that may not apply to you alone. Thank you for listening if you got this far :) **TL DR** Outside of our own thoughts we re listening and we want to know: * **What do you want to see!?** * Would you like to create and submit new custom community awards (gold silver etc)? * Do you think we should do a shitpost-Sunday like thing again (memes pics etc) thoughts? | I want people who want r teslamotors to be r teslalounge to be told to go to tesla lounge. It s great to have two let s make sure to keep them differentiated. Everyone can have what they want except people who want to force low-quality content on me - which seems to be what a lot of people want to do. | Still not enough content to over moderate here and move content to the new subreddit (people probably would just give up after there post is removed) Most people only check here. There are like 5 posts a day here why is this even a discussion? Let the upvotes decide what makes it to the front page and if people complain about a few more posts or repitition who cares. Sometimes I find the only discussion for the day is in new. Teslalounge gets a lot less exposure and has a much greater chance of not hitting r all from the lack of readership. I think suppressing content that could potentially open up the discussion to a wider audience is only possible via this sub. This sub can be starved for content regularly the new lounge is just good in theory but just doesn t work practically as there is no ability to move content without straight up deleting it or not approving. Guess I am in the minority or folks like me don t post in threads like this. I just find it funny people don t want anything but Tesla news here and then complain about Elektrek links and the like when some minor news happens based on an Elon tweet. Just let the subreddit do its own thing and if people join the lounge great! | 75 | 3 | 9,315 |
rzspcc | 289 | What do you want!? ## [What do you want!?](https: media.giphy.com media GDqDZOPSZJC00 giphy.gif) Hey everyone! Not sure if you noticed… but we re not so little anymore. It s a little bittersweet if I m being honest. If I were to categorize us I wouldn t say we re like obnoxious kids jumping on the bed anymore but like 23-year-olds only have been drinking for a couple years. We ve made some bad decisions but we re growing from our experiences. I don t know how long you ve been with us but I ve been here for a very long time and I ve seen some crazy changes. For those of you that have been here for a while you know what I m talking about (free reign) but for those who are new it can seem pretty strict and I ll explain why and give you a little background. When things were young we had so few owners and so little news about Tesla that it was pretty easy to balance content. Between peoples personal experiences and the latest thing Tesla is working on. Often times specific to a couple models it made it easy to let things flow. But that was when we were between 50 000 and 500 000 subscribers. Not so easy with over 1.5 Million… There are *way* more owners now and way more products and areas Tesla is exploring. And that meant we had to evolve. What that meant was as news about the company grew peoples personal experiences seemed to have less of a voice. Some considered that censorship but the truth is that you have to balance noise with the bread and butter on details on the company. So we created r TeslaLounge. A place for your experiences stories trips service details and the questions that maybe didn t require so many people to see. Every now and again we let that sort of content flow through so the questions that affect more people are seen. Even if it s not specifically “about the company“. We re sorry if we haven t communicated that well but we re doing our best. We know many of you thrive on “when am I going to get the beta!?” and have opinions like “what the hell Elon!?”. We re with you and we get it. We don t all think what Musk or Tesla does is the right thing but our goal is still to keep this place fun and exciting even though it may not always seem that way. Anyways enough of the rambling. The point of this post is a little follow up from [yesterday](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments rz41is petition_to_ban_teslarati hrt7f2s ) to understand what people enjoy seeing. I understand that s very broad and there will be extremes across all sides of the spectrum. Our goal is still to make this a fun community and at least *still try* to make the most people happy. I am always told that s never possible (to make everyone happy) and I get this but I believe there s always a balance that can be maintained and we ll strive for it. Here is a general idea of where our thoughts are today: r TeslaMotors * Higher Quality Content and Articles * News on Tesla s efforts plans and actions including the latest breaking news content * Questions Answers that benefit a large audience of owners (and prospective owners) r TeslaLounge * Personal Experiences * Wallpaper-quality Photos * General questions * Less overall moderation Our goal is to have *you* share *everything* you can find across the web (Twitter YouTube articles pictures) that support the above for each and get people excited about what Tesla is doing. We understand not everyone is going to be on the same wavelength and that s okay but we want people to stay on topic move the discussion forward and try to avoid being an insufferable ass… if possible. We want people to focus on a positive and optimistic future and overall thriving community because that s what excites us. We want things that will help the most people even if that includes the mundane questions that may not apply to you alone. Thank you for listening if you got this far :) **TL DR** Outside of our own thoughts we re listening and we want to know: * **What do you want to see!?** * Would you like to create and submit new custom community awards (gold silver etc)? * Do you think we should do a shitpost-Sunday like thing again (memes pics etc) thoughts? | I want people who want r teslamotors to be r teslalounge to be told to go to tesla lounge. It s great to have two let s make sure to keep them differentiated. Everyone can have what they want except people who want to force low-quality content on me - which seems to be what a lot of people want to do. | - I enjoy the currently implemented separation between the two subs - I miss flairs - I miss the daily support posts as opposed to the current quarterly posts. They were smaller and more digestible. How are you finding it from a moderation standpoint? Better I assume. Still I miss *something* about the daily ones. Edit: Adding an obligatory thank you to all the mods. While we don t say thank you every day you are thought of and appreciated. 😘 | 75 | 3 | 9,316 |
rzspcc | 289 | What do you want!? ## [What do you want!?](https: media.giphy.com media GDqDZOPSZJC00 giphy.gif) Hey everyone! Not sure if you noticed… but we re not so little anymore. It s a little bittersweet if I m being honest. If I were to categorize us I wouldn t say we re like obnoxious kids jumping on the bed anymore but like 23-year-olds only have been drinking for a couple years. We ve made some bad decisions but we re growing from our experiences. I don t know how long you ve been with us but I ve been here for a very long time and I ve seen some crazy changes. For those of you that have been here for a while you know what I m talking about (free reign) but for those who are new it can seem pretty strict and I ll explain why and give you a little background. When things were young we had so few owners and so little news about Tesla that it was pretty easy to balance content. Between peoples personal experiences and the latest thing Tesla is working on. Often times specific to a couple models it made it easy to let things flow. But that was when we were between 50 000 and 500 000 subscribers. Not so easy with over 1.5 Million… There are *way* more owners now and way more products and areas Tesla is exploring. And that meant we had to evolve. What that meant was as news about the company grew peoples personal experiences seemed to have less of a voice. Some considered that censorship but the truth is that you have to balance noise with the bread and butter on details on the company. So we created r TeslaLounge. A place for your experiences stories trips service details and the questions that maybe didn t require so many people to see. Every now and again we let that sort of content flow through so the questions that affect more people are seen. Even if it s not specifically “about the company“. We re sorry if we haven t communicated that well but we re doing our best. We know many of you thrive on “when am I going to get the beta!?” and have opinions like “what the hell Elon!?”. We re with you and we get it. We don t all think what Musk or Tesla does is the right thing but our goal is still to keep this place fun and exciting even though it may not always seem that way. Anyways enough of the rambling. The point of this post is a little follow up from [yesterday](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments rz41is petition_to_ban_teslarati hrt7f2s ) to understand what people enjoy seeing. I understand that s very broad and there will be extremes across all sides of the spectrum. Our goal is still to make this a fun community and at least *still try* to make the most people happy. I am always told that s never possible (to make everyone happy) and I get this but I believe there s always a balance that can be maintained and we ll strive for it. Here is a general idea of where our thoughts are today: r TeslaMotors * Higher Quality Content and Articles * News on Tesla s efforts plans and actions including the latest breaking news content * Questions Answers that benefit a large audience of owners (and prospective owners) r TeslaLounge * Personal Experiences * Wallpaper-quality Photos * General questions * Less overall moderation Our goal is to have *you* share *everything* you can find across the web (Twitter YouTube articles pictures) that support the above for each and get people excited about what Tesla is doing. We understand not everyone is going to be on the same wavelength and that s okay but we want people to stay on topic move the discussion forward and try to avoid being an insufferable ass… if possible. We want people to focus on a positive and optimistic future and overall thriving community because that s what excites us. We want things that will help the most people even if that includes the mundane questions that may not apply to you alone. Thank you for listening if you got this far :) **TL DR** Outside of our own thoughts we re listening and we want to know: * **What do you want to see!?** * Would you like to create and submit new custom community awards (gold silver etc)? * Do you think we should do a shitpost-Sunday like thing again (memes pics etc) thoughts? | I want people who want r teslamotors to be r teslalounge to be told to go to tesla lounge. It s great to have two let s make sure to keep them differentiated. Everyone can have what they want except people who want to force low-quality content on me - which seems to be what a lot of people want to do. | Are the other subs like r TeslaModel3 and r TeslaModelY part of the same family ? They seem to mostly fill the same purpose as the Lounge but even more open about questions and experiences and photos for their specific models. | 75 | 3 | 9,317 |
s07bz2 | 659 | Feature request - Traffic Stop Mode The ability of drivers to record their traffic stops for their safety using the car s cameras and microphones. Lock glovebox or unlock. Make customizable. You can include recommendations. But in this day and age this is a much needed overlooked safety feature. Please don t make this one take a long time. Driver safety is the top priority yes? | The most useful camera would be the cabin camera video feed. Not sure if that is possible. | Makes sense. Rather than a specific mode maybe clicking the dashcam button records the next 10 minutes in addition to the prior 10 like it does now | 212 | 73 | 9,318 |
s07bz2 | 659 | Feature request - Traffic Stop Mode The ability of drivers to record their traffic stops for their safety using the car s cameras and microphones. Lock glovebox or unlock. Make customizable. You can include recommendations. But in this day and age this is a much needed overlooked safety feature. Please don t make this one take a long time. Driver safety is the top priority yes? | Plays Bad Boys over the exterior speaker as the cop approaches. | What an excellent idea! | 56 | 3 | 9,319 |
s07bz2 | 659 | Feature request - Traffic Stop Mode The ability of drivers to record their traffic stops for their safety using the car s cameras and microphones. Lock glovebox or unlock. Make customizable. You can include recommendations. But in this day and age this is a much needed overlooked safety feature. Please don t make this one take a long time. Driver safety is the top priority yes? | Plays Bad Boys over the exterior speaker as the cop approaches. | Sounds like a US only feature… | 56 | 30 | 9,320 |
s0dnhg | 903 | Wouldn t it be great if the mobile app could be used to pre-plan a trip? Sometime when I want to go on long trips or to remote places it would be great if I could check the route and charging stops within the map without having to go to the vehicle and put it in the map directly has anyone raised this before? | The Tesla app does exactly that in China: https: twitter.com JayinShanghai status 1476402881167298563 Now they just need to give it to the rest of us.. | https: apps.apple.com us app a-better-routeplanner-abrp id1490860521 | 141 | 5 | 9,321 |
s0dnhg | 903 | Wouldn t it be great if the mobile app could be used to pre-plan a trip? Sometime when I want to go on long trips or to remote places it would be great if I could check the route and charging stops within the map without having to go to the vehicle and put it in the map directly has anyone raised this before? | The Tesla app does exactly that in China: https: twitter.com JayinShanghai status 1476402881167298563 Now they just need to give it to the rest of us.. | You can share a Google map location from your phone or tablet to the Tesla app and it will program the route in your cars navigation. | 141 | 33 | 9,322 |
s0dnhg | 903 | Wouldn t it be great if the mobile app could be used to pre-plan a trip? Sometime when I want to go on long trips or to remote places it would be great if I could check the route and charging stops within the map without having to go to the vehicle and put it in the map directly has anyone raised this before? | You can share a Google map location from your phone or tablet to the Tesla app and it will program the route in your cars navigation. | https: apps.apple.com us app a-better-routeplanner-abrp id1490860521 | 33 | 5 | 9,323 |
s1h95j | 175 | Silenced the Wind Noise! Wind noise is a relatively common complaint around this sub and I d like to share my solution with everyone. I bought [this product](https: www.amazon.com dp B07YRS7S78 ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_FZ15167CN2AS9M89SJQW?_encoding=UTF8& psc=1) on Amazon for just under $8. It comes as a paired tubing that very easily pulls apart. The adhesive is sufficiently solid though I recommend disposing of the first and last couple of inches as the ends were a little bit less sticky for me. Here s the final product with the door [open](https: imgur.com a Zob11P3) and [closed](https: imgur.com a bvtwo4k). Total installation time was around five minutes and the wind noise reduction is remarkable. I ve also noticed a reduction in road surface noise at city street speeds. TLDR – Eliminate wind noise for $8 in five minutes. EDIT – Fixed broken Amazon link. EDIT – The gaps are located at the trunk-facing ends of the front door glass and on both the frunk-facing and trunk-facing ends of the rear door glass. They are [recessed sunken in](https: imgur.com a gukLrlD). I applied the tubing in all [three locations](https: imgur.com a XrVKZyC) on both sides. EDIT – [Video](https: imgur.com a Sv9OX8K) as promised. EDIT – One month follow-up! After roughly three weeks the driver side seal started to fall away. I have since replaced it with [this product](https: www.homedepot.com p M-D-Building-Products-5-16-in-x-17-ft-All-Climate-Auto-and-Marine-D-Profile-Weatherstrip-01025 202066509) from Home Depot. Do keep in mind that the weather in my location has been above freezing only two days since the initial post and you will likely have better luck in any warmer climate – especially as we enter spring. If this one falls off I may consider adhesion promoter because the results are truly worth it for me. | Why are we having to glue additional soundproofing onto our $60k cars? | How is this diff than the ones for Tesla on Amazon | 160 | 2 | 9,324 |
s1h95j | 175 | Silenced the Wind Noise! Wind noise is a relatively common complaint around this sub and I d like to share my solution with everyone. I bought [this product](https: www.amazon.com dp B07YRS7S78 ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_FZ15167CN2AS9M89SJQW?_encoding=UTF8& psc=1) on Amazon for just under $8. It comes as a paired tubing that very easily pulls apart. The adhesive is sufficiently solid though I recommend disposing of the first and last couple of inches as the ends were a little bit less sticky for me. Here s the final product with the door [open](https: imgur.com a Zob11P3) and [closed](https: imgur.com a bvtwo4k). Total installation time was around five minutes and the wind noise reduction is remarkable. I ve also noticed a reduction in road surface noise at city street speeds. TLDR – Eliminate wind noise for $8 in five minutes. EDIT – Fixed broken Amazon link. EDIT – The gaps are located at the trunk-facing ends of the front door glass and on both the frunk-facing and trunk-facing ends of the rear door glass. They are [recessed sunken in](https: imgur.com a gukLrlD). I applied the tubing in all [three locations](https: imgur.com a XrVKZyC) on both sides. EDIT – [Video](https: imgur.com a Sv9OX8K) as promised. EDIT – One month follow-up! After roughly three weeks the driver side seal started to fall away. I have since replaced it with [this product](https: www.homedepot.com p M-D-Building-Products-5-16-in-x-17-ft-All-Climate-Auto-and-Marine-D-Profile-Weatherstrip-01025 202066509) from Home Depot. Do keep in mind that the weather in my location has been above freezing only two days since the initial post and you will likely have better luck in any warmer climate – especially as we enter spring. If this one falls off I may consider adhesion promoter because the results are truly worth it for me. | Why are we having to glue additional soundproofing onto our $60k cars? | nice! which model year do you have for reference. [Model 3 20xx] | 160 | 4 | 9,325 |
s1h95j | 175 | Silenced the Wind Noise! Wind noise is a relatively common complaint around this sub and I d like to share my solution with everyone. I bought [this product](https: www.amazon.com dp B07YRS7S78 ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_FZ15167CN2AS9M89SJQW?_encoding=UTF8& psc=1) on Amazon for just under $8. It comes as a paired tubing that very easily pulls apart. The adhesive is sufficiently solid though I recommend disposing of the first and last couple of inches as the ends were a little bit less sticky for me. Here s the final product with the door [open](https: imgur.com a Zob11P3) and [closed](https: imgur.com a bvtwo4k). Total installation time was around five minutes and the wind noise reduction is remarkable. I ve also noticed a reduction in road surface noise at city street speeds. TLDR – Eliminate wind noise for $8 in five minutes. EDIT – Fixed broken Amazon link. EDIT – The gaps are located at the trunk-facing ends of the front door glass and on both the frunk-facing and trunk-facing ends of the rear door glass. They are [recessed sunken in](https: imgur.com a gukLrlD). I applied the tubing in all [three locations](https: imgur.com a XrVKZyC) on both sides. EDIT – [Video](https: imgur.com a Sv9OX8K) as promised. EDIT – One month follow-up! After roughly three weeks the driver side seal started to fall away. I have since replaced it with [this product](https: www.homedepot.com p M-D-Building-Products-5-16-in-x-17-ft-All-Climate-Auto-and-Marine-D-Profile-Weatherstrip-01025 202066509) from Home Depot. Do keep in mind that the weather in my location has been above freezing only two days since the initial post and you will likely have better luck in any warmer climate – especially as we enter spring. If this one falls off I may consider adhesion promoter because the results are truly worth it for me. | Why are we having to glue additional soundproofing onto our $60k cars? | Affiliate linked? | 160 | 5 | 9,326 |
s290ru | 2,781 | Tesla is assisting in the fight against proposed Solar Power taxes in California [https: engage.tesla.com articles 1105-california-stop-solar-tax](https: engage.tesla.com articles 1105-california-stop-solar-tax) If you guys weren t aware CPUC ( California Public Utilities Commission) is seeking to institute a fee on solar owners based on the size of your system at *$8 kw per month.* Please help me convince them that this is not the way. | State: “go solar it s cheaper! Wait we re losing revenue because everyone is going solar? Tax solar!!” 🤦🏻♂️ | As great as this is we still have idiots in office here we have one of the highest tax rates in the country soon probably a tax on breathing. | 433 | 12 | 9,327 |
s290ru | 2,781 | Tesla is assisting in the fight against proposed Solar Power taxes in California [https: engage.tesla.com articles 1105-california-stop-solar-tax](https: engage.tesla.com articles 1105-california-stop-solar-tax) If you guys weren t aware CPUC ( California Public Utilities Commission) is seeking to institute a fee on solar owners based on the size of your system at *$8 kw per month.* Please help me convince them that this is not the way. | At that point wouldn t it be cheaper to get some power walls and not allow selling back to the grid and just use the grid as a backup? | As great as this is we still have idiots in office here we have one of the highest tax rates in the country soon probably a tax on breathing. | 336 | 12 | 9,328 |
s290ru | 2,781 | Tesla is assisting in the fight against proposed Solar Power taxes in California [https: engage.tesla.com articles 1105-california-stop-solar-tax](https: engage.tesla.com articles 1105-california-stop-solar-tax) If you guys weren t aware CPUC ( California Public Utilities Commission) is seeking to institute a fee on solar owners based on the size of your system at *$8 kw per month.* Please help me convince them that this is not the way. | State: “go solar it s cheaper! Wait we re losing revenue because everyone is going solar? Tax solar!!” 🤦🏻♂️ | This is absolutely crazy... | 433 | 112 | 9,329 |
s4nr8u | 26 | Killing time at the Supercharger? What do you miss when charging...? How do you kill your time at the Supercharger? What would you like to have a better time charging? | I keep a small roll of trash bags in the side door pocket. Every time I supercharge I pick up the trash around the supercharger. By the time I finish I ve got just enough time to check my route or scan Reddit for a few minutes before I get back on the road. | Faster charging | 225 | 6 | 9,330 |
s4nr8u | 26 | Killing time at the Supercharger? What do you miss when charging...? How do you kill your time at the Supercharger? What would you like to have a better time charging? | I keep a small roll of trash bags in the side door pocket. Every time I supercharge I pick up the trash around the supercharger. By the time I finish I ve got just enough time to check my route or scan Reddit for a few minutes before I get back on the road. | I work out to kill time because gyms are closed. I would like to have actual lounges that have convenience stores or at least a solar roof above the station to protect from the elements. | 225 | 6 | 9,331 |
s4nr8u | 26 | Killing time at the Supercharger? What do you miss when charging...? How do you kill your time at the Supercharger? What would you like to have a better time charging? | I keep a small roll of trash bags in the side door pocket. Every time I supercharge I pick up the trash around the supercharger. By the time I finish I ve got just enough time to check my route or scan Reddit for a few minutes before I get back on the road. | More streaming choices like HBO max and more classic arcade style games. | 225 | 23 | 9,332 |
s4x260 | 35 | Can refreshed MS remote closes its windows after vent? Can refreshed MS remote closes its windows after vent? I know the pre-refreshes can only open but not close. Wonder what have been changed in the refresh MS to allow that if that is possible now since they are very similar. | Yes. I just tried it. In the app vent opens all 4 windows and can close them as well. | My M3 can close windows after vent I don t see why an MS can t. | 39 | 8 | 9,333 |
s66fmc | 59 | Preheat cabin without preconditioning? I ve been watching the power draw of our MY when preconditioning recently. It s currently 1C outside which is pretty warm for my area. Yet with scheduled departure on the car begins preconditioning over an hour before I leave in the morning (drawing 8+kW for that time). My commute is only about 10 minutes so this seems like a pretty big waste of power. Is there any way to limit this or just preheat the cabin on a schedule but not precondition the battery? | Charging produces heat so scheduled departure should complete charging just prior to departure and utilise waste heat for pre-conditioning cabin | 8kw? Holy shit. For reference a space heater is usually around 1.2 kw on high. | 41 | 2 | 9,334 |
s66fmc | 59 | Preheat cabin without preconditioning? I ve been watching the power draw of our MY when preconditioning recently. It s currently 1C outside which is pretty warm for my area. Yet with scheduled departure on the car begins preconditioning over an hour before I leave in the morning (drawing 8+kW for that time). My commute is only about 10 minutes so this seems like a pretty big waste of power. Is there any way to limit this or just preheat the cabin on a schedule but not precondition the battery? | Imo just use the app and do it as needed manually 5-10 min before you leave a bit of a pain but its nice to have the option of a warm cabin before you start. my work location changed and its just 1.5miles each way most of the time with the once a week or so trip to other sites further afield. & #x200B still like the SR+ though | 8kw? Holy shit. For reference a space heater is usually around 1.2 kw on high. | 29 | 2 | 9,335 |
s6i1en | 451 | Jeff Roberts tweets pic of new Model Ys from Giga Texas [https: twitter.com peterdog15 status 1483206573291937793](https: twitter.com peterdog15 status 1483206573291937793) Quote: New Model Ys at Giga Texas! Update: Video for more context: Video of new Model Y s: [https: youtu.be 0rVQYB69ZSQ?t=523](https: youtu.be 0rVQYB69ZSQ?t=523) 8:45 into the video. There is also a zoomed out quick flyby around the 3 minute mark. Interesting because it shows a white car was there. | I m gonna need to see a battery sticker. | Can t wait to get my MYP from here in march :) | 62 | 3 | 9,336 |
s6i1en | 451 | Jeff Roberts tweets pic of new Model Ys from Giga Texas [https: twitter.com peterdog15 status 1483206573291937793](https: twitter.com peterdog15 status 1483206573291937793) Quote: New Model Ys at Giga Texas! Update: Video for more context: Video of new Model Y s: [https: youtu.be 0rVQYB69ZSQ?t=523](https: youtu.be 0rVQYB69ZSQ?t=523) 8:45 into the video. There is also a zoomed out quick flyby around the 3 minute mark. Interesting because it shows a white car was there. | No kidding. That s Almost three months worth of production of GM ev of 2021! | I want my car!!! Been waiting toooo long now | 53 | 2 | 9,337 |
s6i1en | 451 | Jeff Roberts tweets pic of new Model Ys from Giga Texas [https: twitter.com peterdog15 status 1483206573291937793](https: twitter.com peterdog15 status 1483206573291937793) Quote: New Model Ys at Giga Texas! Update: Video for more context: Video of new Model Y s: [https: youtu.be 0rVQYB69ZSQ?t=523](https: youtu.be 0rVQYB69ZSQ?t=523) 8:45 into the video. There is also a zoomed out quick flyby around the 3 minute mark. Interesting because it shows a white car was there. | No kidding. That s Almost three months worth of production of GM ev of 2021! | Can t wait to get my MYP from here in march :) | 53 | 3 | 9,338 |
s80gmj | 91 | FSD Beta 10.9 Clip Megathread 2021.44.30.10 Release Highlights (FSD 10.9) [YouTube Search](https: youtube.com results?sp=mAEA& search_query=FSD+Beta+10.9) [Twitter Web Search](https: twitter.com search?q=%23FSDBeta%2010.9& src=typed_query& f=live) [Software Updates Wiki](https: reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates ) - FSD Beta Megathreads will be added here now as well. **Share clips you ve found around the web for 10.9 and share them here. Sort by New to see the latest.** | I m noticing good improvements less braking less interventions better turns. As a note driving to work this morning 10.9 didn t see a pulled over pickup-truck with a low trailer attached didn t slow down didn t plot to go around had to intervene. Edge cases are still out there be aware be safe. We re making good progress! | [Some initial discussions shared here](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge comments s7sd11 fsd_beta_109_huge_improvements_for_me ) | 109 | 5 | 9,339 |
s80gmj | 91 | FSD Beta 10.9 Clip Megathread 2021.44.30.10 Release Highlights (FSD 10.9) [YouTube Search](https: youtube.com results?sp=mAEA& search_query=FSD+Beta+10.9) [Twitter Web Search](https: twitter.com search?q=%23FSDBeta%2010.9& src=typed_query& f=live) [Software Updates Wiki](https: reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates ) - FSD Beta Megathreads will be added here now as well. **Share clips you ve found around the web for 10.9 and share them here. Sort by New to see the latest.** | I m noticing good improvements less braking less interventions better turns. As a note driving to work this morning 10.9 didn t see a pulled over pickup-truck with a low trailer attached didn t slow down didn t plot to go around had to intervene. Edge cases are still out there be aware be safe. We re making good progress! | YouTube search goes to 10.69. Nice! | 109 | 7 | 9,340 |
s80gmj | 91 | FSD Beta 10.9 Clip Megathread 2021.44.30.10 Release Highlights (FSD 10.9) [YouTube Search](https: youtube.com results?sp=mAEA& search_query=FSD+Beta+10.9) [Twitter Web Search](https: twitter.com search?q=%23FSDBeta%2010.9& src=typed_query& f=live) [Software Updates Wiki](https: reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates ) - FSD Beta Megathreads will be added here now as well. **Share clips you ve found around the web for 10.9 and share them here. Sort by New to see the latest.** | I m noticing good improvements less braking less interventions better turns. As a note driving to work this morning 10.9 didn t see a pulled over pickup-truck with a low trailer attached didn t slow down didn t plot to go around had to intervene. Edge cases are still out there be aware be safe. We re making good progress! | The visualizations are much better and for the first time it handled my local roundabouts! Much improvement. | 109 | 42 | 9,341 |
s8ya33 | 238 | FSD Beta 10.9 Write up - Significantly better 2017 Model X 100D w AP 2.5 cameras FSD Beta s profile was set to Average This was a Costco run which I ve done a write up before which can be found here: https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge comments qizw8l fsd_beta_1031_drive_write_up . TL DR: Two drives one to get to Costco and one to come back. Zero disengagements on the way to Costco one disengagement coming home. No significant complaints from the wife regarding the vehicle s behavior. *Significant improvement* [This was the route taken to get to Costco](https: imgur.com fcLTaBH) There were zero disengagements. There were some incidences of note however. [At this spot here](https: imgur.com esa7ykB) I manually changed lanes from the right lane to the left lane and manually back again as there were vehicles pulled over at the side of the road. They weren t on the road and would not have been in the path of the car however Florida law is Move over for pulled over or something like that. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com TyGLDsH) historically has never worked as desired. Normally the Tesla fails to see the turn lane in time and the result is that it just keeps flying forward. This time it *did* get into the turn lane but there was a *hard* braking in the process. When leaving the intersection and turning left the car accelerated hard into the car ahead of us which was weird but it maintained the safety distances. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com RofL6WG) has also been problematic mainly because the car seems to time the vehicles wrong. I had to press the accelerator for the car to go forward through the intersection. *I think* the issue stems from not seeing turn signals in use. This intersection is super prone to getting backed up but more often than not the people at the stop sign are always going straight. So while the car in front of me got there first we were both crossing the intersection and not turning into each others paths. I think the Tesla was waiting for them to take their turn when from an efficiency standpoint we can both go since neither of us are turning. The [next intersection](https: imgur.com k88HPta) I was actually really impressed by. In my previous write up for 10.3.1 I drew this diagram [here](https: imgur.com cOwxgT6) to explain my issues and honestly they were addressed. The issue with the intersection is that technically Costco *is* a right turn up the road however if you get into the right most left turn lane then you get stopped by any car making a right as they turn. The *smart* thing to do is to be in the left most left turn lane and then just go by. And the car did it. The navigation also basically told it not to take the first right to get to Costco either it took the back entrance as I would do. It did basically choke on the last right turn into the Costco parking lot but from my stand point it from me from driveway to parking lot entry and as far as I m concerned that was zero disengagements and beautifully done. So the trip from home to Costco was near perfect and zero disengagements. The trip home used [this route here](https: imgur.com lEDgXhx) which is *very* similar but turns down a couple different roads. Leaving Costco was manual. I did the maneuver indicated [in this diagram](https: imgur.com UWinLbV) the red arow was manual driving and I kicked on Autopilot at the yellow arrow. *Historically* when I get to the [next intersection](https: imgur.com hoio4Ko) the car chokes because the lane markings are faded and it starts to drift from the right lane to the left lane in the middle of the turn. It did not do that this time. It maintained its lane with no issues. A manual lane change was needed at [this intersection](https: imgur.com cmz3Xtk) mainly because the car wants to go straight in the turn lane. This has been that way since 10.2. Not a huge issue and no disengagement was necessary. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com gm6YBUZ) is where the the single disengagement occurred. Traffic for the light was backed up to the yellow line. The car became impatient and tried to get into the left turn lane. I can understand the error there s no lane markings to denote that the left lane is turn only that far back. The wheel jerked hard to the left and because I had my hand on it it disengaged. Once we got moving again I re-engaged it and we kept going. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com kO9GSoz) almost got us T-boned. The car had to make a left turn and there was a car blocking out sight line where the yellow line is. The green line indicates where the car that was coming toward us was. My visibility was blocked due to the car indicated by the yellow line. Had I been driving I would ve crawled by way through the intersection until I could confirm no one was coming. We got through the intersection fine but I m fairly positive the oncoming car had to tap their brakes a bit. It wasn t close plenty of distance and such but this is also where my wife fussed at me the most about the car s driving. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com s3myf5x) was *almost* perfect. *In my opinion* a stop is not necessary. We were going through the intersection while the light was red and the vehicle came to a complete stop at the yellow line. I believe stopping here is not necessary because a new lane starts here. Once you complete this turn you re in a lane of your own and no one should be in it. Doesn t mean you take the turn at 50mph or something but coming to a complete stop is unnecessary in my opinion. Ultimately I hit the accelerator and got it going again. Approaching [this intersection](https: imgur.com 4Kju2fd) was another manual lane change. The car hasn t been able to do it properly at least not according to my time frame. The issue here is that three lanes cross the intersection but the right most lane ends right after you cross. *Typically* what happens is that you cross and you almost come to a complete stop from people turning into the gas station or going to Burger King. It s easier to get into one of the left two lanes ideally the left most one as you cross the intersection to avoid that crap. I manually made that lane change. Further on down the road at [this intersection](https: imgur.com m5mTrNf) the car slammed the brakes at the white line as a vehicle turned out of the gas station into the adjacent lane. Ultimately the vehicle was being over protective because the SUV that was leaving was making a wide turn out of there. I can understand it was dark better to be safe than sorry. Was a little hard though. *Historically* when the vehicle made a left turn at [this intersection](https: imgur.com tkx69aC) it would choke around where the blue line is. *Every time* I assume it has been because there s cars trying to make a right turn to get onto the same road and they stop where the orange line is but this time the car handled it *perfectly*. No stops no brakes just a smooth left turn. Now for one of the last turns. [This spot here](https: imgur.com a3LyXqG) I ve brought this up in most of my write ups because ever since 10.2 is has been failing here and required an intervention. The car needs to make a right turn however *historically* it s tried to make the right turn too early and go into the strip mall. Ever since 10.2 to I ve always had to intervene and stop it. This time it got through. I kept an eye on the FSD Beta s blue intention line and I saw it try to make a right turn then correct itself. The car did briefly try to make a right turn there but after a moment it was like No wait not there . No intervention was necessary though it does still need to be cleaned up a bit. From there it was straight home all the way to my drive way no interventions. So compared to previous iterations of FSD Beta 10.9 is a huge leap ahead. This is the first time I ve done this kind of trip with zero disengagements in one direction and only one coming back. Going to be interesting to see what v11 yields next month. Even my wife was impressed when we got home. | I am also seeing a massive improvement with 10.9. My personal commute used to have 2-3 consistent disengagements now it s gone zero disengagements both to and from work two days in a row. Knock on wood but if it keeps up then FSD Beta will actually be useful in real life with this version for me. | Your links to images are not working. I m still waiting to get updated to 10.9 from 10.8.1. | 82 | 6 | 9,342 |
s8ya33 | 238 | FSD Beta 10.9 Write up - Significantly better 2017 Model X 100D w AP 2.5 cameras FSD Beta s profile was set to Average This was a Costco run which I ve done a write up before which can be found here: https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge comments qizw8l fsd_beta_1031_drive_write_up . TL DR: Two drives one to get to Costco and one to come back. Zero disengagements on the way to Costco one disengagement coming home. No significant complaints from the wife regarding the vehicle s behavior. *Significant improvement* [This was the route taken to get to Costco](https: imgur.com fcLTaBH) There were zero disengagements. There were some incidences of note however. [At this spot here](https: imgur.com esa7ykB) I manually changed lanes from the right lane to the left lane and manually back again as there were vehicles pulled over at the side of the road. They weren t on the road and would not have been in the path of the car however Florida law is Move over for pulled over or something like that. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com TyGLDsH) historically has never worked as desired. Normally the Tesla fails to see the turn lane in time and the result is that it just keeps flying forward. This time it *did* get into the turn lane but there was a *hard* braking in the process. When leaving the intersection and turning left the car accelerated hard into the car ahead of us which was weird but it maintained the safety distances. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com RofL6WG) has also been problematic mainly because the car seems to time the vehicles wrong. I had to press the accelerator for the car to go forward through the intersection. *I think* the issue stems from not seeing turn signals in use. This intersection is super prone to getting backed up but more often than not the people at the stop sign are always going straight. So while the car in front of me got there first we were both crossing the intersection and not turning into each others paths. I think the Tesla was waiting for them to take their turn when from an efficiency standpoint we can both go since neither of us are turning. The [next intersection](https: imgur.com k88HPta) I was actually really impressed by. In my previous write up for 10.3.1 I drew this diagram [here](https: imgur.com cOwxgT6) to explain my issues and honestly they were addressed. The issue with the intersection is that technically Costco *is* a right turn up the road however if you get into the right most left turn lane then you get stopped by any car making a right as they turn. The *smart* thing to do is to be in the left most left turn lane and then just go by. And the car did it. The navigation also basically told it not to take the first right to get to Costco either it took the back entrance as I would do. It did basically choke on the last right turn into the Costco parking lot but from my stand point it from me from driveway to parking lot entry and as far as I m concerned that was zero disengagements and beautifully done. So the trip from home to Costco was near perfect and zero disengagements. The trip home used [this route here](https: imgur.com lEDgXhx) which is *very* similar but turns down a couple different roads. Leaving Costco was manual. I did the maneuver indicated [in this diagram](https: imgur.com UWinLbV) the red arow was manual driving and I kicked on Autopilot at the yellow arrow. *Historically* when I get to the [next intersection](https: imgur.com hoio4Ko) the car chokes because the lane markings are faded and it starts to drift from the right lane to the left lane in the middle of the turn. It did not do that this time. It maintained its lane with no issues. A manual lane change was needed at [this intersection](https: imgur.com cmz3Xtk) mainly because the car wants to go straight in the turn lane. This has been that way since 10.2. Not a huge issue and no disengagement was necessary. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com gm6YBUZ) is where the the single disengagement occurred. Traffic for the light was backed up to the yellow line. The car became impatient and tried to get into the left turn lane. I can understand the error there s no lane markings to denote that the left lane is turn only that far back. The wheel jerked hard to the left and because I had my hand on it it disengaged. Once we got moving again I re-engaged it and we kept going. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com kO9GSoz) almost got us T-boned. The car had to make a left turn and there was a car blocking out sight line where the yellow line is. The green line indicates where the car that was coming toward us was. My visibility was blocked due to the car indicated by the yellow line. Had I been driving I would ve crawled by way through the intersection until I could confirm no one was coming. We got through the intersection fine but I m fairly positive the oncoming car had to tap their brakes a bit. It wasn t close plenty of distance and such but this is also where my wife fussed at me the most about the car s driving. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com s3myf5x) was *almost* perfect. *In my opinion* a stop is not necessary. We were going through the intersection while the light was red and the vehicle came to a complete stop at the yellow line. I believe stopping here is not necessary because a new lane starts here. Once you complete this turn you re in a lane of your own and no one should be in it. Doesn t mean you take the turn at 50mph or something but coming to a complete stop is unnecessary in my opinion. Ultimately I hit the accelerator and got it going again. Approaching [this intersection](https: imgur.com 4Kju2fd) was another manual lane change. The car hasn t been able to do it properly at least not according to my time frame. The issue here is that three lanes cross the intersection but the right most lane ends right after you cross. *Typically* what happens is that you cross and you almost come to a complete stop from people turning into the gas station or going to Burger King. It s easier to get into one of the left two lanes ideally the left most one as you cross the intersection to avoid that crap. I manually made that lane change. Further on down the road at [this intersection](https: imgur.com m5mTrNf) the car slammed the brakes at the white line as a vehicle turned out of the gas station into the adjacent lane. Ultimately the vehicle was being over protective because the SUV that was leaving was making a wide turn out of there. I can understand it was dark better to be safe than sorry. Was a little hard though. *Historically* when the vehicle made a left turn at [this intersection](https: imgur.com tkx69aC) it would choke around where the blue line is. *Every time* I assume it has been because there s cars trying to make a right turn to get onto the same road and they stop where the orange line is but this time the car handled it *perfectly*. No stops no brakes just a smooth left turn. Now for one of the last turns. [This spot here](https: imgur.com a3LyXqG) I ve brought this up in most of my write ups because ever since 10.2 is has been failing here and required an intervention. The car needs to make a right turn however *historically* it s tried to make the right turn too early and go into the strip mall. Ever since 10.2 to I ve always had to intervene and stop it. This time it got through. I kept an eye on the FSD Beta s blue intention line and I saw it try to make a right turn then correct itself. The car did briefly try to make a right turn there but after a moment it was like No wait not there . No intervention was necessary though it does still need to be cleaned up a bit. From there it was straight home all the way to my drive way no interventions. So compared to previous iterations of FSD Beta 10.9 is a huge leap ahead. This is the first time I ve done this kind of trip with zero disengagements in one direction and only one coming back. Going to be interesting to see what v11 yields next month. Even my wife was impressed when we got home. | I am also seeing a massive improvement with 10.9. My personal commute used to have 2-3 consistent disengagements now it s gone zero disengagements both to and from work two days in a row. Knock on wood but if it keeps up then FSD Beta will actually be useful in real life with this version for me. | I actually haven t noticed any changes good or bad. | 82 | 6 | 9,343 |
s8ya33 | 238 | FSD Beta 10.9 Write up - Significantly better 2017 Model X 100D w AP 2.5 cameras FSD Beta s profile was set to Average This was a Costco run which I ve done a write up before which can be found here: https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge comments qizw8l fsd_beta_1031_drive_write_up . TL DR: Two drives one to get to Costco and one to come back. Zero disengagements on the way to Costco one disengagement coming home. No significant complaints from the wife regarding the vehicle s behavior. *Significant improvement* [This was the route taken to get to Costco](https: imgur.com fcLTaBH) There were zero disengagements. There were some incidences of note however. [At this spot here](https: imgur.com esa7ykB) I manually changed lanes from the right lane to the left lane and manually back again as there were vehicles pulled over at the side of the road. They weren t on the road and would not have been in the path of the car however Florida law is Move over for pulled over or something like that. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com TyGLDsH) historically has never worked as desired. Normally the Tesla fails to see the turn lane in time and the result is that it just keeps flying forward. This time it *did* get into the turn lane but there was a *hard* braking in the process. When leaving the intersection and turning left the car accelerated hard into the car ahead of us which was weird but it maintained the safety distances. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com RofL6WG) has also been problematic mainly because the car seems to time the vehicles wrong. I had to press the accelerator for the car to go forward through the intersection. *I think* the issue stems from not seeing turn signals in use. This intersection is super prone to getting backed up but more often than not the people at the stop sign are always going straight. So while the car in front of me got there first we were both crossing the intersection and not turning into each others paths. I think the Tesla was waiting for them to take their turn when from an efficiency standpoint we can both go since neither of us are turning. The [next intersection](https: imgur.com k88HPta) I was actually really impressed by. In my previous write up for 10.3.1 I drew this diagram [here](https: imgur.com cOwxgT6) to explain my issues and honestly they were addressed. The issue with the intersection is that technically Costco *is* a right turn up the road however if you get into the right most left turn lane then you get stopped by any car making a right as they turn. The *smart* thing to do is to be in the left most left turn lane and then just go by. And the car did it. The navigation also basically told it not to take the first right to get to Costco either it took the back entrance as I would do. It did basically choke on the last right turn into the Costco parking lot but from my stand point it from me from driveway to parking lot entry and as far as I m concerned that was zero disengagements and beautifully done. So the trip from home to Costco was near perfect and zero disengagements. The trip home used [this route here](https: imgur.com lEDgXhx) which is *very* similar but turns down a couple different roads. Leaving Costco was manual. I did the maneuver indicated [in this diagram](https: imgur.com UWinLbV) the red arow was manual driving and I kicked on Autopilot at the yellow arrow. *Historically* when I get to the [next intersection](https: imgur.com hoio4Ko) the car chokes because the lane markings are faded and it starts to drift from the right lane to the left lane in the middle of the turn. It did not do that this time. It maintained its lane with no issues. A manual lane change was needed at [this intersection](https: imgur.com cmz3Xtk) mainly because the car wants to go straight in the turn lane. This has been that way since 10.2. Not a huge issue and no disengagement was necessary. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com gm6YBUZ) is where the the single disengagement occurred. Traffic for the light was backed up to the yellow line. The car became impatient and tried to get into the left turn lane. I can understand the error there s no lane markings to denote that the left lane is turn only that far back. The wheel jerked hard to the left and because I had my hand on it it disengaged. Once we got moving again I re-engaged it and we kept going. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com kO9GSoz) almost got us T-boned. The car had to make a left turn and there was a car blocking out sight line where the yellow line is. The green line indicates where the car that was coming toward us was. My visibility was blocked due to the car indicated by the yellow line. Had I been driving I would ve crawled by way through the intersection until I could confirm no one was coming. We got through the intersection fine but I m fairly positive the oncoming car had to tap their brakes a bit. It wasn t close plenty of distance and such but this is also where my wife fussed at me the most about the car s driving. [This intersection here](https: imgur.com s3myf5x) was *almost* perfect. *In my opinion* a stop is not necessary. We were going through the intersection while the light was red and the vehicle came to a complete stop at the yellow line. I believe stopping here is not necessary because a new lane starts here. Once you complete this turn you re in a lane of your own and no one should be in it. Doesn t mean you take the turn at 50mph or something but coming to a complete stop is unnecessary in my opinion. Ultimately I hit the accelerator and got it going again. Approaching [this intersection](https: imgur.com 4Kju2fd) was another manual lane change. The car hasn t been able to do it properly at least not according to my time frame. The issue here is that three lanes cross the intersection but the right most lane ends right after you cross. *Typically* what happens is that you cross and you almost come to a complete stop from people turning into the gas station or going to Burger King. It s easier to get into one of the left two lanes ideally the left most one as you cross the intersection to avoid that crap. I manually made that lane change. Further on down the road at [this intersection](https: imgur.com m5mTrNf) the car slammed the brakes at the white line as a vehicle turned out of the gas station into the adjacent lane. Ultimately the vehicle was being over protective because the SUV that was leaving was making a wide turn out of there. I can understand it was dark better to be safe than sorry. Was a little hard though. *Historically* when the vehicle made a left turn at [this intersection](https: imgur.com tkx69aC) it would choke around where the blue line is. *Every time* I assume it has been because there s cars trying to make a right turn to get onto the same road and they stop where the orange line is but this time the car handled it *perfectly*. No stops no brakes just a smooth left turn. Now for one of the last turns. [This spot here](https: imgur.com a3LyXqG) I ve brought this up in most of my write ups because ever since 10.2 is has been failing here and required an intervention. The car needs to make a right turn however *historically* it s tried to make the right turn too early and go into the strip mall. Ever since 10.2 to I ve always had to intervene and stop it. This time it got through. I kept an eye on the FSD Beta s blue intention line and I saw it try to make a right turn then correct itself. The car did briefly try to make a right turn there but after a moment it was like No wait not there . No intervention was necessary though it does still need to be cleaned up a bit. From there it was straight home all the way to my drive way no interventions. So compared to previous iterations of FSD Beta 10.9 is a huge leap ahead. This is the first time I ve done this kind of trip with zero disengagements in one direction and only one coming back. Going to be interesting to see what v11 yields next month. Even my wife was impressed when we got home. | I am also seeing a massive improvement with 10.9. My personal commute used to have 2-3 consistent disengagements now it s gone zero disengagements both to and from work two days in a row. Knock on wood but if it keeps up then FSD Beta will actually be useful in real life with this version for me. | Anyone know why the rollout of 10.9 has stopped? | 82 | 12 | 9,344 |
s9htok | 111 | Why no live view of the cabin camera? This would be a great feature especially with dog mode or just in general really. | Would settle for front-bumper view during parking. | I d just like live view to work for me. Then the next step would be to alert you on your phone and open the sentry view in app when sentry goes off cause right now it s pretty useless. | 149 | 6 | 9,345 |
s9htok | 111 | Why no live view of the cabin camera? This would be a great feature especially with dog mode or just in general really. | Would settle for front-bumper view during parking. | same with the pillar cameras current Sentry has blind spots | 149 | 22 | 9,346 |
s9htok | 111 | Why no live view of the cabin camera? This would be a great feature especially with dog mode or just in general really. | Can we just have access to all camera angles and views with sentry | I d just like live view to work for me. Then the next step would be to alert you on your phone and open the sentry view in app when sentry goes off cause right now it s pretty useless. | 130 | 6 | 9,347 |
sa7ldv | 349 | Wondering about the mechanics of regenerative braking with Dual Motor Teslas I understand the concept that the motor becomes a generator the battery becomes the load (recharging) and the ***BMS*** (Battery Management System) decides how much demand to apply to the motors (as generators). I also recognize that the ***dual motor*** vehicles are primarily *rear* wheel drive and the front motor comes into play only under conditions that require that extra power (full go-pedal for example). So what I am wondering is in the case of a **Dual Motor** vehicle (I have a 2018 MS 100**D**) is the regenerative braking being applied to ***both*** front **and** rear motors (balancing magically) or *just* the rear (primary drive motor)? I have been off on for the **chill** setting for regen braking and am also curious if that affects the logic on braking balance (assuming there is some balance). Edit: Thanks for all the ***comments*** and education. Happy to have this hive resource for topics like this. 🧐 | I posted something similar to this. & #x200B [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments rufeym how\\_does\\_a\\_tesla\\_use\\_its\\_second\\_electric\\_motor ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments rufeym how_does_a_tesla_use_its_second_electric_motor ) Front is an induction motor. Rear is a permanent magnet synchronous motor. So you can t really switch the rear one off (if you do the magnets will still move past the coils and cause an induced current which will lead to a braking force in the motor - i.e. ***that s where you get regenerative braking***).The front motor has no permanet magnets so you can just disconnect it the field collapses and it just rides along without any resistance. No magnetic field moving past anything. It does not disenagage but just rotates along.(Some other companies who use front and rear permanent magnet motors actively disengage one motor to prevent it from rotating along. Obviously this has implications for punchyness as you have to mechanically engage that motor again...and any time you do stuff mechanically then that means stuff can break. So while permanent magnet motors are more efficient I don t like this approach because both motors are only needed during heavy acceleration and that small efficiency gain isn t really worth the added complexity IMO)TLDR It makes sense from an efficiency standpoint to just use the rear motor for regular driving. Since the peak horsepower is somewhere in the region 300-500+ (depending on model) and you just need 20(-ish) kW to keep you going at highway speeds it s also not much of a strain. u iqisoverrated | The rear motor is the more efficient one so the car will use that one to Regen most of the time. However when the car notices traction issues when using the rear motor only for regen the car will the use the front motor too. However this is not as good as it sounds as it first means you need to slide slightly and that s not great. The car is missing a winter mode for that. Also when driving down a mountain it can happen that the stator overheats. In that case the car also switches to the front motor. | 110 | 8 | 9,348 |
sa7ldv | 349 | Wondering about the mechanics of regenerative braking with Dual Motor Teslas I understand the concept that the motor becomes a generator the battery becomes the load (recharging) and the ***BMS*** (Battery Management System) decides how much demand to apply to the motors (as generators). I also recognize that the ***dual motor*** vehicles are primarily *rear* wheel drive and the front motor comes into play only under conditions that require that extra power (full go-pedal for example). So what I am wondering is in the case of a **Dual Motor** vehicle (I have a 2018 MS 100**D**) is the regenerative braking being applied to ***both*** front **and** rear motors (balancing magically) or *just* the rear (primary drive motor)? I have been off on for the **chill** setting for regen braking and am also curious if that affects the logic on braking balance (assuming there is some balance). Edit: Thanks for all the ***comments*** and education. Happy to have this hive resource for topics like this. 🧐 | I posted something similar to this. & #x200B [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments rufeym how\\_does\\_a\\_tesla\\_use\\_its\\_second\\_electric\\_motor ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments rufeym how_does_a_tesla_use_its_second_electric_motor ) Front is an induction motor. Rear is a permanent magnet synchronous motor. So you can t really switch the rear one off (if you do the magnets will still move past the coils and cause an induced current which will lead to a braking force in the motor - i.e. ***that s where you get regenerative braking***).The front motor has no permanet magnets so you can just disconnect it the field collapses and it just rides along without any resistance. No magnetic field moving past anything. It does not disenagage but just rotates along.(Some other companies who use front and rear permanent magnet motors actively disengage one motor to prevent it from rotating along. Obviously this has implications for punchyness as you have to mechanically engage that motor again...and any time you do stuff mechanically then that means stuff can break. So while permanent magnet motors are more efficient I don t like this approach because both motors are only needed during heavy acceleration and that small efficiency gain isn t really worth the added complexity IMO)TLDR It makes sense from an efficiency standpoint to just use the rear motor for regular driving. Since the peak horsepower is somewhere in the region 300-500+ (depending on model) and you just need 20(-ish) kW to keep you going at highway speeds it s also not much of a strain. u iqisoverrated | Curious myself as Tesla service told me that my car is exhibiting a regenerative braking sound from the front motor when turning and slowing down but he also noted that it was “louder than normal” and should go away in a while as my motor breaks in… I challenged his assessment but he did pull the wheels off to ensure the brakes aren t dragging and the rotors aren t warped. | 110 | 13 | 9,349 |
sa7ldv | 349 | Wondering about the mechanics of regenerative braking with Dual Motor Teslas I understand the concept that the motor becomes a generator the battery becomes the load (recharging) and the ***BMS*** (Battery Management System) decides how much demand to apply to the motors (as generators). I also recognize that the ***dual motor*** vehicles are primarily *rear* wheel drive and the front motor comes into play only under conditions that require that extra power (full go-pedal for example). So what I am wondering is in the case of a **Dual Motor** vehicle (I have a 2018 MS 100**D**) is the regenerative braking being applied to ***both*** front **and** rear motors (balancing magically) or *just* the rear (primary drive motor)? I have been off on for the **chill** setting for regen braking and am also curious if that affects the logic on braking balance (assuming there is some balance). Edit: Thanks for all the ***comments*** and education. Happy to have this hive resource for topics like this. 🧐 | I posted something similar to this. & #x200B [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments rufeym how\\_does\\_a\\_tesla\\_use\\_its\\_second\\_electric\\_motor ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments rufeym how_does_a_tesla_use_its_second_electric_motor ) Front is an induction motor. Rear is a permanent magnet synchronous motor. So you can t really switch the rear one off (if you do the magnets will still move past the coils and cause an induced current which will lead to a braking force in the motor - i.e. ***that s where you get regenerative braking***).The front motor has no permanet magnets so you can just disconnect it the field collapses and it just rides along without any resistance. No magnetic field moving past anything. It does not disenagage but just rotates along.(Some other companies who use front and rear permanent magnet motors actively disengage one motor to prevent it from rotating along. Obviously this has implications for punchyness as you have to mechanically engage that motor again...and any time you do stuff mechanically then that means stuff can break. So while permanent magnet motors are more efficient I don t like this approach because both motors are only needed during heavy acceleration and that small efficiency gain isn t really worth the added complexity IMO)TLDR It makes sense from an efficiency standpoint to just use the rear motor for regular driving. Since the peak horsepower is somewhere in the region 300-500+ (depending on model) and you just need 20(-ish) kW to keep you going at highway speeds it s also not much of a strain. u iqisoverrated | This is a question for Tesla Bjorn | 110 | 14 | 9,350 |
sautvj | 222 | Can someone please explain to how to use Regenerative braking on the freeway It sounds like a dumb question I only test drove to MY on the street and Im already having a hard time timing. What about at 60mph when do you release the acceleration or does it immediately stop. I m just being nervous and I need to understand how it works before my car arrives | You re overthinking it. I had it down on my 40 minute test drive. You will too. And once you have it down there is some bliss to it. When coming up to a stop sign light and you time it right it will slow slow *almost stop* roll an inch or two gently then fully stop. Just like you re taught to do in driver s Ed. They ve really figured Hold out perfectly IMO. | Regen is just like the brakes you just let off the accelerator pedal to slow down. It does take a bit to get used to but it is much nicer than needing to let completely off then pressing the brake pedal. There is a setting where the regen breaking is very limited and it drives very similar to a typical car without Regen if you can t get used to it. Limited Regen is less efficient though so I suggest trying to use regen as much as possible. | 91 | 2 | 9,351 |
sautvj | 222 | Can someone please explain to how to use Regenerative braking on the freeway It sounds like a dumb question I only test drove to MY on the street and Im already having a hard time timing. What about at 60mph when do you release the acceleration or does it immediately stop. I m just being nervous and I need to understand how it works before my car arrives | You re overthinking it. I had it down on my 40 minute test drive. You will too. And once you have it down there is some bliss to it. When coming up to a stop sign light and you time it right it will slow slow *almost stop* roll an inch or two gently then fully stop. Just like you re taught to do in driver s Ed. They ve really figured Hold out perfectly IMO. | You get used to the brake timing over time I wouldn t worry about it. Within a few days of driving you should get a good idea of how fast it ll slow down just like how you know how fast your current car will slow from letting off the accelerator or from pushing the brake certain amounts. Just be aware that you may have less regen on cold days! This can sometimes catch you out a little but you come to expect it. :) | 91 | 2 | 9,352 |
sautvj | 222 | Can someone please explain to how to use Regenerative braking on the freeway It sounds like a dumb question I only test drove to MY on the street and Im already having a hard time timing. What about at 60mph when do you release the acceleration or does it immediately stop. I m just being nervous and I need to understand how it works before my car arrives | You re overthinking it. I had it down on my 40 minute test drive. You will too. And once you have it down there is some bliss to it. When coming up to a stop sign light and you time it right it will slow slow *almost stop* roll an inch or two gently then fully stop. Just like you re taught to do in driver s Ed. They ve really figured Hold out perfectly IMO. | It does take time to adjust. Unlike other comments saying it s similar to ICE cars it s clearly not. You release the go peddle in a Tesla and you immediately feel some level of regen. ICE cars and my eGolf will coast. My eGolf has some of the lowest rolling resistance tires. It will coast like a puck on ice. So when I m on the highway I turn off the egolf s regen and use the efficiency of coasting. For a tesla as someone else said and this helped me - have the mindset you re driving with only one peddle. And gradual release the go-peddle. | 91 | 2 | 9,353 |
sbcn4o | 1,802 | Cybertruck photo leaked! 📸 **Cybertruck photo leaked!** **Source:** [**https: www.cybertruckownersclub.com latest-production-cybertruck-prototype-photo **](https: www.cybertruckownersclub.com latest-production-cybertruck-prototype-photo ) [Source: Cybertruckownersclub.com](https: preview.redd.it 7i4zdwxi6kd81.jpg?width=1429& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f5ea3bf5b35f0e5899662d8fade74fef54fb4637) | Alpha prototype vs this new leaked photo: [https: i.imgur.com 54LYgry.png](https: i.imgur.com 54LYgry.png) Biggest differences I see are: \\- no aero caps on the wheels maybe those come with the truck \\- No door handles \\- mirrors added \\- wiper added \\- front bumper looks like a slightly different design \\- The triangular window where the mirror is is recessed now. I liked the previous design but mirrors are a legal requirement. (EDIT: looks like it s just a reflection of the black mirror glass is still flush based on [new video posted](https: twitter.com Model3Owners status 1485634633693868040)). Most other aspects of the truck look the same. Hard to gauge size difference if any. | Interesting wiper blade. | 356 | 2 | 9,354 |
sbcn4o | 1,802 | Cybertruck photo leaked! 📸 **Cybertruck photo leaked!** **Source:** [**https: www.cybertruckownersclub.com latest-production-cybertruck-prototype-photo **](https: www.cybertruckownersclub.com latest-production-cybertruck-prototype-photo ) [Source: Cybertruckownersclub.com](https: preview.redd.it 7i4zdwxi6kd81.jpg?width=1429& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f5ea3bf5b35f0e5899662d8fade74fef54fb4637) | Alpha prototype vs this new leaked photo: [https: i.imgur.com 54LYgry.png](https: i.imgur.com 54LYgry.png) Biggest differences I see are: \\- no aero caps on the wheels maybe those come with the truck \\- No door handles \\- mirrors added \\- wiper added \\- front bumper looks like a slightly different design \\- The triangular window where the mirror is is recessed now. I liked the previous design but mirrors are a legal requirement. (EDIT: looks like it s just a reflection of the black mirror glass is still flush based on [new video posted](https: twitter.com Model3Owners status 1485634633693868040)). Most other aspects of the truck look the same. Hard to gauge size difference if any. | The side mirrors need to go | 356 | 2 | 9,355 |
sbcn4o | 1,802 | Cybertruck photo leaked! 📸 **Cybertruck photo leaked!** **Source:** [**https: www.cybertruckownersclub.com latest-production-cybertruck-prototype-photo **](https: www.cybertruckownersclub.com latest-production-cybertruck-prototype-photo ) [Source: Cybertruckownersclub.com](https: preview.redd.it 7i4zdwxi6kd81.jpg?width=1429& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f5ea3bf5b35f0e5899662d8fade74fef54fb4637) | Alpha prototype vs this new leaked photo: [https: i.imgur.com 54LYgry.png](https: i.imgur.com 54LYgry.png) Biggest differences I see are: \\- no aero caps on the wheels maybe those come with the truck \\- No door handles \\- mirrors added \\- wiper added \\- front bumper looks like a slightly different design \\- The triangular window where the mirror is is recessed now. I liked the previous design but mirrors are a legal requirement. (EDIT: looks like it s just a reflection of the black mirror glass is still flush based on [new video posted](https: twitter.com Model3Owners status 1485634633693868040)). Most other aspects of the truck look the same. Hard to gauge size difference if any. | First mod- wiper delete Second mod- side mirrors delete | 356 | 2 | 9,356 |
sbebrt | 25 | Are 4680 cells really worth the hype? I know a lot of people are waiting on 4680 cells making into Tesla production cars but are they really worth the hype? As a Tesla enthusiast I am personally only concerned with: 1. How much more range 4680 cells will provide compared to existing cars with 2170 cells 2. How quick (acceleration mostly) will cars with 4680 cells go compared to existing Tesla cars with 2170 I haven t seen a lot of people discussing these practical aspects. Anyone else feel the same? | 16% weight reduction which will increase range Lower cost to make which may not flow to consumers Ramp that allows them to make many times more cars Overall it s a cost manufacturing benefit with slight Benefit to the range. With all the changes they presented on battery day they aim for a cost reduction of 50% for the battery pack. On a $10k battery this results in a 5k saving (at cost level) Some of the advancements will be some time away but 60-70%ish should be realised over the next 12-18months | For me it s just about supply chain constraints so aside of any technical advantages it enables more product to be buit | 60 | 12 | 9,357 |
sbebrt | 25 | Are 4680 cells really worth the hype? I know a lot of people are waiting on 4680 cells making into Tesla production cars but are they really worth the hype? As a Tesla enthusiast I am personally only concerned with: 1. How much more range 4680 cells will provide compared to existing cars with 2170 cells 2. How quick (acceleration mostly) will cars with 4680 cells go compared to existing Tesla cars with 2170 I haven t seen a lot of people discussing these practical aspects. Anyone else feel the same? | EEVblog Tesla 4680 Battery cell explained.[https: www.youtube.com watch?v=hbPKE62aM0U](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=hbPKE62aM0U) 4680 may have less cell resitance and better heat exhaust. than it can stay longer charing at 250kW less heat managment while driving longer life span. 250kW -> 324kW :-) | For me it s just about supply chain constraints so aside of any technical advantages it enables more product to be buit | 38 | 12 | 9,358 |
scee0m | 93 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | Allow me to access the cabin camera when my Vehicle is in dog mode through the app. I just wanna keep an eye on my handsomest goodest boy. | More comfortable back seats in the Model S! Everyone who rides in the back hates them. | 107 | 2 | 9,359 |
scee0m | 93 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | Allow me to access the cabin camera when my Vehicle is in dog mode through the app. I just wanna keep an eye on my handsomest goodest boy. | All models. Voice command that accepts : Jesus Elon take the wheel to turn on autopilot FSD if all the normal conditions are met. | 107 | 14 | 9,360 |
scee0m | 93 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | ##### All - **Disable headlight flash for sentry mode** If you live in a busy street park facing another house it s nice to not draw attention to the car. It just needs to record no need to flash. There s been plenty of teslacam vids of drunks attacking the car only after it flashes at them and reports in groups of neighbours complaining of the flashing. Oh and some of us just don t want to draw that much attention to the car. - **Display active energy draining settings within energy chart charging window** Though most people become aware that sentry mode drains the battery it s not obvious to new drivers. Even more so for the Summon standby setting. For the most part I believe Tesla have solved the phantom drain issues when the appropriate settings are off. As Tesla doesn t explicitly tell the users what these are or what the drain is it d be nice if this was visualised listed in appropriate locations so that the end user can discover this information themselves - **Disable honk on lock when at home this location ** Honk on lock is a lovely confirmation but middle of the night with neighbours is annoying for them and depending on the country technically against the law (This is true for the UK). Location based lock honks would be a good compromise. - **Accessibility options** We ve now had two *lit* holiday updates that resulted in font size icons and touch area shrinkages. Be it due to eyesight or mobility issues tesla really needs to include accessibility options to adjust the sizes to meet the users needs. (Heck the first *lit* holiday update with a partial ui redo resulted in so much backlash they restored the font sizes but took a while longer before fixing text alignments... lol. UI s really can t be half arsed they need proper diverse user testing) - **Better charge scheduling** The current setup of exclusionary desired departure time vs start charging at X time is weird. These should be complimentary features and easily accessible in the same place in the car like in the app. Something like: ***start charge time plus an optional stop charging times for cheap tariffs(tick to enable?)*** plus tickbox for precondition via charger for those who don t mind the cost and prefer to pre-heat via their socket rather than drain the range. For the scheduled departure time It d be nice to choose how how far in advance of departure it should start preconditioning for those who just want a warm cabin and not a warm battery. - **Customisable minimum SoC% to reach destination** Charging at your destination may not always be possible or within range of the destination. If the journey is long enough the current navigation approach of allowing you to arrive with ~5% means you may get there without enough charge to head off. Having the option to set a minimum SoC to reach the destination at (like in abrp zap-map others) would be useful. Something along the lines of `If final leg SoC_floor = user_input else soc_floor = 5%` with the user input either being an option during the route planning and or a user preference minimum destination %. Off the top of my head an easy way to flesh this out further is to make use of the cars own records of 3rd party home charging locations too so allowing for this logic to be conditional based on known charging locations (so you don t need to override when driving home for example or just offer an exclude home tickbox like other features). - **report mapping error** An official way to report mapping errors would be great for fixing map related phantom breaking dangerous mapping errors speed limit errors generally improve the performance of the smart features. Preferably via app and car. For via app have it requiring an account with a linked car would dramatically reduce risk of abuse. | More comfortable back seats in the Model S! Everyone who rides in the back hates them. | 79 | 2 | 9,361 |
sde3tv | 167 | Megathread - Tesla Q4 and full year 2021 Financial Results + Q& A Webcast AUSTIN Texas January 12 2022 – Tesla will post its financial results for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31 2021 after market close on Wednesday January 26 2022. At that time Tesla will issue a brief advisory containing a link to the Q4 and full year 2021 update which will be available on Tesla s Investor Relations website. Tesla management will hold a live question and answer webcast that day at 4:30 p.m. Central Time (5:30 p.m. Eastern Time) to discuss the Company s financial and business results and outlook. **What**: Date of Tesla Q4 and full year 2021 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast **When**: Wednesday January 26 2022 **Time**: 4:30 p.m. Central Time 5:30 p.m. Eastern Time **Q4 & FY 2021 Update**: [Press Release](https: ir.tesla.com press-release tesla-q4-2021-vehicle-production-deliveries) **Webcast**: [YouTube Stream](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=EMA6myXpfqI) (live and replay) + [Q& A](https: app.saytechnologies.com tesla-2021-q4?filter=all& sort=num_shares) [**Shareholder Deck now live**](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla 99573663-409d-442d-b1f6-50bfc75cb41c S1dbei4 WEB tsla-q4-and-fy-2021-update) [Earnings Call Bingo](https: i.imgur.com lRrTfPy.jpg) (thank you u nitzao_reddit) | Too complicated to have the FSD attached to a person company rather than the car 🤣 | I can t watch it live — will I be able to replay it right away or do I need to wait a day? | 62 | 2 | 9,362 |
sde3tv | 167 | Megathread - Tesla Q4 and full year 2021 Financial Results + Q& A Webcast AUSTIN Texas January 12 2022 – Tesla will post its financial results for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31 2021 after market close on Wednesday January 26 2022. At that time Tesla will issue a brief advisory containing a link to the Q4 and full year 2021 update which will be available on Tesla s Investor Relations website. Tesla management will hold a live question and answer webcast that day at 4:30 p.m. Central Time (5:30 p.m. Eastern Time) to discuss the Company s financial and business results and outlook. **What**: Date of Tesla Q4 and full year 2021 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast **When**: Wednesday January 26 2022 **Time**: 4:30 p.m. Central Time 5:30 p.m. Eastern Time **Q4 & FY 2021 Update**: [Press Release](https: ir.tesla.com press-release tesla-q4-2021-vehicle-production-deliveries) **Webcast**: [YouTube Stream](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=EMA6myXpfqI) (live and replay) + [Q& A](https: app.saytechnologies.com tesla-2021-q4?filter=all& sort=num_shares) [**Shareholder Deck now live**](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla 99573663-409d-442d-b1f6-50bfc75cb41c S1dbei4 WEB tsla-q4-and-fy-2021-update) [Earnings Call Bingo](https: i.imgur.com lRrTfPy.jpg) (thank you u nitzao_reddit) | Too complicated to have the FSD attached to a person company rather than the car 🤣 | I m going to be honest. I m a cybertruck reservation holder and sad about how long it s been! Considering just getting a plaid as the cybertruck was my tax write off and my new daily driver. I wish the plaid was over 6K lbs. | 62 | 2 | 9,363 |
sde3tv | 167 | Megathread - Tesla Q4 and full year 2021 Financial Results + Q& A Webcast AUSTIN Texas January 12 2022 – Tesla will post its financial results for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31 2021 after market close on Wednesday January 26 2022. At that time Tesla will issue a brief advisory containing a link to the Q4 and full year 2021 update which will be available on Tesla s Investor Relations website. Tesla management will hold a live question and answer webcast that day at 4:30 p.m. Central Time (5:30 p.m. Eastern Time) to discuss the Company s financial and business results and outlook. **What**: Date of Tesla Q4 and full year 2021 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast **When**: Wednesday January 26 2022 **Time**: 4:30 p.m. Central Time 5:30 p.m. Eastern Time **Q4 & FY 2021 Update**: [Press Release](https: ir.tesla.com press-release tesla-q4-2021-vehicle-production-deliveries) **Webcast**: [YouTube Stream](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=EMA6myXpfqI) (live and replay) + [Q& A](https: app.saytechnologies.com tesla-2021-q4?filter=all& sort=num_shares) [**Shareholder Deck now live**](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla 99573663-409d-442d-b1f6-50bfc75cb41c S1dbei4 WEB tsla-q4-and-fy-2021-update) [Earnings Call Bingo](https: i.imgur.com lRrTfPy.jpg) (thank you u nitzao_reddit) | Too complicated to have the FSD attached to a person company rather than the car 🤣 | He said they have to wait to go through some final approvals before delivering MY s from Austin? | 62 | 2 | 9,364 |
sewp2p | 149 | Please make the contact area for the buttons bigger I m young but I m a big guy with larger than average fingers. I wish Tesla would make some of the on screen buttons in the model 3 bigger. The new v11 patch seemed to have made thing smaller and harder to find while you are driving and that to me is a little dangerous. I m looking at my screen right now in my car and I m notici g a lot of dead space that could be utilized better. Maybe they can make an easy mode or something idk. | Tesla: we ve made the buttons bigger and the text microscopic. You re welcome. All input is error. | Yeah I feel this for sure. I just wish there was more customization. V11 was a regression in utilization for me personally. I prefer the software that was in my old 3 as compared to this new Model S software. | 58 | 17 | 9,365 |
sewp2p | 149 | Please make the contact area for the buttons bigger I m young but I m a big guy with larger than average fingers. I wish Tesla would make some of the on screen buttons in the model 3 bigger. The new v11 patch seemed to have made thing smaller and harder to find while you are driving and that to me is a little dangerous. I m looking at my screen right now in my car and I m notici g a lot of dead space that could be utilized better. Maybe they can make an easy mode or something idk. | as a 65 year old with age related vision loss I also wish Tesla made the buttons bigger in my Model 3 or is that a Model 8? | I agree particularly on the quick controls icon in the lower left. Part of the problem is I can t even see it with my wheel position. I end up feeling around the lower left corner of the screen and tapping until I find it. | 44 | 7 | 9,366 |
sewp2p | 149 | Please make the contact area for the buttons bigger I m young but I m a big guy with larger than average fingers. I wish Tesla would make some of the on screen buttons in the model 3 bigger. The new v11 patch seemed to have made thing smaller and harder to find while you are driving and that to me is a little dangerous. I m looking at my screen right now in my car and I m notici g a lot of dead space that could be utilized better. Maybe they can make an easy mode or something idk. | as a 65 year old with age related vision loss I also wish Tesla made the buttons bigger in my Model 3 or is that a Model 8? | Seeing how much flack they got for reducing the font sizes with 10 (10.5? the previous *lit* holiday update) requiring them to backtrack the change I m surprised they didn t learn from that and add in accessibility options. it s a much overdue option o.0 | 44 | 13 | 9,367 |
sh344s | 92 | Do you keep your Tesla Key Card with you at all times? I have had my Tesla Model 3 LR for a little over two months and so far my experience has been perfect. I ve had no issues and it s been nothing but a delight to use. More relevantly I ve never encountered a situation where I had to use my Tesla Key Card. I have a wallet that only carries 3 cards and right now I carry an ID a credit card and my Tesla Key Card. This is OK but I would like to start carrying an additional credit card. My question is is it safe to leave my Key Card at home for daily trips and errands? Or am I setting myself up for disaster by leaving my Key Card at home? What do you do? [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll sh344s) | I m a huge fan of the: I d rather have it and not need it... than need it and not have it | I have my tesla since about 3 years and have only needed it once so now i don t always take it anymore but if i go on long trips then yes of course :) | 258 | 2 | 9,368 |
sh344s | 92 | Do you keep your Tesla Key Card with you at all times? I have had my Tesla Model 3 LR for a little over two months and so far my experience has been perfect. I ve had no issues and it s been nothing but a delight to use. More relevantly I ve never encountered a situation where I had to use my Tesla Key Card. I have a wallet that only carries 3 cards and right now I carry an ID a credit card and my Tesla Key Card. This is OK but I would like to start carrying an additional credit card. My question is is it safe to leave my Key Card at home for daily trips and errands? Or am I setting myself up for disaster by leaving my Key Card at home? What do you do? [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll sh344s) | I m a huge fan of the: I d rather have it and not need it... than need it and not have it | Always carry your key card. And also enable NFC in your phone app. Sometimes my car won t start even when my phone is with me but tapping the phone on the console gets me going when I don t want to mess with it (toggle BT etc). But if I drop my phone in a lake I still want to be able to get home. Triple redundancy. | 258 | 2 | 9,369 |
sh344s | 92 | Do you keep your Tesla Key Card with you at all times? I have had my Tesla Model 3 LR for a little over two months and so far my experience has been perfect. I ve had no issues and it s been nothing but a delight to use. More relevantly I ve never encountered a situation where I had to use my Tesla Key Card. I have a wallet that only carries 3 cards and right now I carry an ID a credit card and my Tesla Key Card. This is OK but I would like to start carrying an additional credit card. My question is is it safe to leave my Key Card at home for daily trips and errands? Or am I setting myself up for disaster by leaving my Key Card at home? What do you do? [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll sh344s) | I m a huge fan of the: I d rather have it and not need it... than need it and not have it | I carried it in the beginning but it s almost useless. Phones nowadays are an essential for all of us when leaving the house. I almost never let my phone go below 20%. | 258 | 2 | 9,370 |
sh4xyb | 287 | Tesla s climate control needs work. I have two issues with the way Tesla s climate controls are setup. I live in Canada so these issues probably aren t applicable to everyone. But hopefully Tesla sees this and can add some quality of life software changes here. Firstly I should be able to click the “keep climate” option from the app when pre-heating the car. If I pre-heat the car and throw something in the back seat I don t want the climate to shutoff as soon as I close the door. This happens all the time when I load my ski gear into the car. Seems obvious that if I am manually telling the car to pre-heat I don t want it to shutoff when I only open the door for a few seconds. Second. When it s -35C and I forgot something in my car. (Wallet shed key whatever… ) I don t want the climate to instantly turn on when I open the door. Especially when I have no plans of actually driving anywhere. I typically don t like to power cycle anything when it s that cold out. It can t be good for the car to turn on and off at -35C. Anyways that s my two cents. Not sure how to best address the second issue without going against Elons “All input is error” quote. | Another incredibly useful feature would be single use scheduled departure. The automatic daily scheduled feature is nice but I often want one-off scheduled departures. For example tonight I m going out to dinner with the family and leaving at 6pm. Since I m working from home my car will not move all day until dinner. I d like the battery to be pre-heated and the cabin ready for when I go which I can do with the scheduled feature now. But if I forget to disable it it ll do that tomorrow again when I will not be leaving and a huge waste of energy. If Tesla wanted to things to be more automatic and less interaction with the Tesla App I think even a scheduled departure based off calendar could be a great idea. If the calendar event has a location you re not at then pre-heat the car or ask to pre-heat it. | A workaround for the second one is to turn off the climate before you exit the car. That way when the car wakes up from having a door opened it remembers that the climate was off. | 167 | 4 | 9,371 |
sh4xyb | 287 | Tesla s climate control needs work. I have two issues with the way Tesla s climate controls are setup. I live in Canada so these issues probably aren t applicable to everyone. But hopefully Tesla sees this and can add some quality of life software changes here. Firstly I should be able to click the “keep climate” option from the app when pre-heating the car. If I pre-heat the car and throw something in the back seat I don t want the climate to shutoff as soon as I close the door. This happens all the time when I load my ski gear into the car. Seems obvious that if I am manually telling the car to pre-heat I don t want it to shutoff when I only open the door for a few seconds. Second. When it s -35C and I forgot something in my car. (Wallet shed key whatever… ) I don t want the climate to instantly turn on when I open the door. Especially when I have no plans of actually driving anywhere. I typically don t like to power cycle anything when it s that cold out. It can t be good for the car to turn on and off at -35C. Anyways that s my two cents. Not sure how to best address the second issue without going against Elons “All input is error” quote. | Another incredibly useful feature would be single use scheduled departure. The automatic daily scheduled feature is nice but I often want one-off scheduled departures. For example tonight I m going out to dinner with the family and leaving at 6pm. Since I m working from home my car will not move all day until dinner. I d like the battery to be pre-heated and the cabin ready for when I go which I can do with the scheduled feature now. But if I forget to disable it it ll do that tomorrow again when I will not be leaving and a huge waste of energy. If Tesla wanted to things to be more automatic and less interaction with the Tesla App I think even a scheduled departure based off calendar could be a great idea. If the calendar event has a location you re not at then pre-heat the car or ask to pre-heat it. | Fully agreed. Also if my car is plugged into my home charger and I open a door to throw something in take something out (climate is always on) I don t want it pulling power from the wall on off just for that. Need some kind of Garage mode. Also auto fold mirrors is kind of annoying when opening closing at home. | 167 | 5 | 9,372 |
sh4xyb | 287 | Tesla s climate control needs work. I have two issues with the way Tesla s climate controls are setup. I live in Canada so these issues probably aren t applicable to everyone. But hopefully Tesla sees this and can add some quality of life software changes here. Firstly I should be able to click the “keep climate” option from the app when pre-heating the car. If I pre-heat the car and throw something in the back seat I don t want the climate to shutoff as soon as I close the door. This happens all the time when I load my ski gear into the car. Seems obvious that if I am manually telling the car to pre-heat I don t want it to shutoff when I only open the door for a few seconds. Second. When it s -35C and I forgot something in my car. (Wallet shed key whatever… ) I don t want the climate to instantly turn on when I open the door. Especially when I have no plans of actually driving anywhere. I typically don t like to power cycle anything when it s that cold out. It can t be good for the car to turn on and off at -35C. Anyways that s my two cents. Not sure how to best address the second issue without going against Elons “All input is error” quote. | Another incredibly useful feature would be single use scheduled departure. The automatic daily scheduled feature is nice but I often want one-off scheduled departures. For example tonight I m going out to dinner with the family and leaving at 6pm. Since I m working from home my car will not move all day until dinner. I d like the battery to be pre-heated and the cabin ready for when I go which I can do with the scheduled feature now. But if I forget to disable it it ll do that tomorrow again when I will not be leaving and a huge waste of energy. If Tesla wanted to things to be more automatic and less interaction with the Tesla App I think even a scheduled departure based off calendar could be a great idea. If the calendar event has a location you re not at then pre-heat the car or ask to pre-heat it. | To your first point: yes we ve been asking for that for literal years and it s always seemed like a “we ll get to that” type of thing. I deal with it almost every single day as I have to pack up my bsck seat for work! your second point I can t really agree to even when I was living without a home charger there was rarely a time I needed The climate to stay completely off it truthfully doesn t use enough range for me to care about it. I don t see how this could be fixed without needing to do some sort of input regardless which you can just do by turning off the climate on your phone if you open the back seats or something haha. I understand you don t like power cycling anything at that temperature but you need to understand that the car s fluid temperature is most likely much higher than the ambient temperature they re built to handle it. | 167 | 7 | 9,373 |
sha6ij | 21 | Best wall charger to install? Do most folks with a Tesla just go with the standard Tesla wall connector? I was talking with a contractor and they mentioned using clipper creek… now I am as uncertain as ever. Edit: first of all I want to thank everyone for taking the time to respond to the post. I talked to the contractor (two actually) and they both said that it would be the same cost to install (14-50 vs wall charger) so I think I am leaning towards the wall charger. If it s a “wash” to have the product installed then it sounds like it comes down to the cost of the wall charger vs a second mobile connector which is a couple hundred dollars. I did find it interesting that one user noted the wall connector is more efficient and will end up paying for itself… that would be bonus but I don t think I ve heard that before. | I just had a Nema 1450 plug installed. I use the mobile charger that came with my 3. It s a way cheaper way to go and it gives you options if you choose another EV brand in the future. Also cheaper to replace a mobile charger than the Tesla wall charger should anything go wrong down the road. | Hard to know what most use. I use the Tesla one. | 50 | 2 | 9,374 |
sha6ij | 21 | Best wall charger to install? Do most folks with a Tesla just go with the standard Tesla wall connector? I was talking with a contractor and they mentioned using clipper creek… now I am as uncertain as ever. Edit: first of all I want to thank everyone for taking the time to respond to the post. I talked to the contractor (two actually) and they both said that it would be the same cost to install (14-50 vs wall charger) so I think I am leaning towards the wall charger. If it s a “wash” to have the product installed then it sounds like it comes down to the cost of the wall charger vs a second mobile connector which is a couple hundred dollars. I did find it interesting that one user noted the wall connector is more efficient and will end up paying for itself… that would be bonus but I don t think I ve heard that before. | I just had a Nema 1450 plug installed. I use the mobile charger that came with my 3. It s a way cheaper way to go and it gives you options if you choose another EV brand in the future. Also cheaper to replace a mobile charger than the Tesla wall charger should anything go wrong down the road. | I have a Clipper Creek and it is great. I use the adapter to charge my Model 3 but the J1772 connector plugs right into my wife s C-Max. But if you only need to charge a Tesla the Tesla charger will be more convenient. | 50 | 3 | 9,375 |
shdud2 | 44 | Correct way to hold steering wheel with AutoPilot on? Whenever I use AP it warns me every now and then to apply some force to the steering wheel even though i already have both my hands at 10 and 2. It also seems (only sometimes) like the amount of force i have to use to get the warning to go away is higher than i would expect. I ve accidentally disengaged the auto steering once trying to dismiss the warning lol. Has anyone else had this issue? Not sure if im doing something wrong. | I just rest my hand on the bottom left of the wheel and let the weight of my hand arm give constant input to it. No nags ever. | I m not sure if there is a correct way to hold the wheel. You can however scroll the speed setting wheel down and up again instead of applying force to the steering wheel. | 79 | 2 | 9,376 |
shdud2 | 44 | Correct way to hold steering wheel with AutoPilot on? Whenever I use AP it warns me every now and then to apply some force to the steering wheel even though i already have both my hands at 10 and 2. It also seems (only sometimes) like the amount of force i have to use to get the warning to go away is higher than i would expect. I ve accidentally disengaged the auto steering once trying to dismiss the warning lol. Has anyone else had this issue? Not sure if im doing something wrong. | I just rest my hand on the bottom left of the wheel and let the weight of my hand arm give constant input to it. No nags ever. | I use my fingers to gently tug on the wheel. It s dynamic in that sometimes it takes a slight tug sometimes a little more. But you ll figure it out. If you turn the wheel it ll disengage. | 79 | 3 | 9,377 |
shdud2 | 44 | Correct way to hold steering wheel with AutoPilot on? Whenever I use AP it warns me every now and then to apply some force to the steering wheel even though i already have both my hands at 10 and 2. It also seems (only sometimes) like the amount of force i have to use to get the warning to go away is higher than i would expect. I ve accidentally disengaged the auto steering once trying to dismiss the warning lol. Has anyone else had this issue? Not sure if im doing something wrong. | I just rest my hand on the bottom left of the wheel and let the weight of my hand arm give constant input to it. No nags ever. | I have found it best to rest my arm on the window ledge make a triangle with my fingers on the wheel. My forefinger points up and my thumb points down. This puts enough pressure on where it hardly ever nags me. | 79 | 7 | 9,378 |
sihcl8 | 186 | CNN making it sound like Tesla is recalling FSD in its entirety.. https: www.cnn.com 2022 02 01 cars tesla-fsd-stop-sign index.html Recalling a functionality within FSD is very different than completely disabling FSD in all beta vehicles. | CNN makes millions from ICE advertising. | They go on to explain it just fine and that an update over the internet will fix it. If anything that part is a win for Tesla as it shows that it can fix recalls without having people go to service centers. | 73 | 18 | 9,379 |
sihcl8 | 186 | CNN making it sound like Tesla is recalling FSD in its entirety.. https: www.cnn.com 2022 02 01 cars tesla-fsd-stop-sign index.html Recalling a functionality within FSD is very different than completely disabling FSD in all beta vehicles. | My mother already texted me yesterday asking if my car was recalled and what one I m gonna get now. | They go on to explain it just fine and that an update over the internet will fix it. If anything that part is a win for Tesla as it shows that it can fix recalls without having people go to service centers. | 73 | 18 | 9,380 |
sihcl8 | 186 | CNN making it sound like Tesla is recalling FSD in its entirety.. https: www.cnn.com 2022 02 01 cars tesla-fsd-stop-sign index.html Recalling a functionality within FSD is very different than completely disabling FSD in all beta vehicles. | Misinformation with click-bait headlines is what CNN does best. | Elon should buy CNN and twist it around | 55 | 2 | 9,381 |
sivwbq | 96 | Full charge during storm? I live in Texas and we re about to have some winter weather. During last year s storm I was able to use my model Y to stay warm and charge devices when the power went out. This time I m wondering if it s worth charging to 100% before the storm or if I should just stay at 90%. My concern is if the power doesn t go out that the battery will stay at 100% for some time before I can really discharge it at a reasonable rate (by driving) which might cause degradation. I guess my question is how long can I stay at 100% before it really harms the battery? Days? Hours? | I d say yeah. Charging to 100% on rare occasions isn t an issue. | Florida here when hurricanes are coming I typically just throw my car up to about 80% and leave them there until the hurricane as passed. If you do charge to 100% before the storm then I d make it a point to use at least 10-20% to do some driving around and looking at storm damage when its over to get it back down to storage range. | 156 | 3 | 9,382 |
sivwbq | 96 | Full charge during storm? I live in Texas and we re about to have some winter weather. During last year s storm I was able to use my model Y to stay warm and charge devices when the power went out. This time I m wondering if it s worth charging to 100% before the storm or if I should just stay at 90%. My concern is if the power doesn t go out that the battery will stay at 100% for some time before I can really discharge it at a reasonable rate (by driving) which might cause degradation. I guess my question is how long can I stay at 100% before it really harms the battery? Days? Hours? | I d say yeah. Charging to 100% on rare occasions isn t an issue. | Honestly if this is a rare occasion you should feel totally fine charging to 100% the amount of degradation is very minimal. However if you could do 95% or something instead that would be a bit better. | 156 | 59 | 9,383 |
sivwbq | 96 | Full charge during storm? I live in Texas and we re about to have some winter weather. During last year s storm I was able to use my model Y to stay warm and charge devices when the power went out. This time I m wondering if it s worth charging to 100% before the storm or if I should just stay at 90%. My concern is if the power doesn t go out that the battery will stay at 100% for some time before I can really discharge it at a reasonable rate (by driving) which might cause degradation. I guess my question is how long can I stay at 100% before it really harms the battery? Days? Hours? | Is it worth fretting about your battery if you feel that your car may be a life saver? Before our last storm I charged both cars to 100% just in case and they just ended up sitting over the long weekend. At worst you can run the heater or sentry for an hour to burn off some charge. | > how long can I stay at 100% before it really harms the battery? Damage essentially starts immediately. The battery essentially has a limited amount of minutes that is okay to be at 100%. Every minute you are at 100% counts against that limit. So essentially charging to 100% and staying there for an hour before a trip weekly for 10 years will do the same damage as keeping it at 100% for 22 days continuously. With that being said in some cases it may make sense to charge to 100% for a long time particularly if the car is going to be your only source of heat for a few days. | 64 | 2 | 9,384 |
sjn82a | 1,075 | Morgan Stanley says Tesla will surpass GM + Ford combined revenue by 2027 https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 03 morgan-stanley-says-tesla-will-surpass-gm-plus-ford-combined-revenue-by-2027 | Tesla already has higher earnings last quarter than Ford and is on par with GM with way less revenue... it s gonna happen before 2027 |  | 275 | 37 | 9,385 |
sjn82a | 1,075 | Morgan Stanley says Tesla will surpass GM + Ford combined revenue by 2027 https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 03 morgan-stanley-says-tesla-will-surpass-gm-plus-ford-combined-revenue-by-2027 | Tesla already has higher earnings last quarter than Ford and is on par with GM with way less revenue... it s gonna happen before 2027 | They also own a pretty huge chunk of stock. Not to say this isn t significant but not like their analysis on the topic is objective either. | 275 | 79 | 9,386 |
slfrci | 84 | How Tesla has conquered EV Batteries whilst the competition struggles ... ***How Tesla has the best Electric Vehicle batteries 🔋 on the market and they ve successfully secured their supply of these batteries for the foreseeable future. Something Competitors HAVEN T done....*** The Battery quite literally powers the entire vehicle it is thus not strange that for the average Electric Vehicle the battery accounts for ***50%*** of the production costs! Despite the market not knowing how to react to Tesla s 4Q earnings call there was some hidden gem hidden in the recent news that most people simply aren t understanding. It is something that is going to be a key factor in determining which companies survive the future in the Automotive industry and Tesla has already secured their place. Let me tell you…. https: preview.redd.it prfjyxiep2g81.jpg?width=1832& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=6e43542bc133513cfbe3da98eee546179b53cf78 **Why are batteries so expensive and important?** The future of Electric Vehicles will be constrained by the amount of available high-quality batteries Elon musk himself even said in a 2018 tweet that: “Tesla vehicle production is limited by total battery output.” This is still true in 2022 and will continue to be the case for the foreseeable future until battery production meets the demand for Electric Vehicles. Batteries are so important because they account for such a large portion of the vehicles cost but why are they so expensive? This is mainly due to the materials that make up the battery due to the fact that the batteries need to be rechargeable the batteries use lithium-ion or sometimes also Nickel batteries. The components that make the cathode (such as nickel lithium or even cobalt) are the most expensive. This is because they need to be mined processed into high-purity chemical compounds and THEN they re set-up to be used in the battery. Although over the last few years battery prices have dropped 81% since 2013 their scarcity remains an issue https: preview.redd.it zjatwpvfp2g81.png?width=978& format=png& auto=webp& s=b7071d6d8916b99f8ec88194a602a2d6254b4e3b & #x200B The demand for electric vehicles is simply out-pacing battery production. So you better hope your favourite car manufacturer has enough batteries to supply their vehicles. Unfortunately this isn t the case. Yet Tesla has positioned themselves not only to have the best performing batteries with the new 4680 batteries they re also continuously securing contracts for long-term supply of raw materials and batteries to power their 50% YoY volume growth for the fore-see able future. Before you continue Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my independent research and work! Tesla has ensured that they are limiting the battery constraints for volume production whilst competitors are stumbling around the in the dark. Just look at the Fourth Quarter comments (below) made by “major-competitor“ Ford compared to Tesla s comments regarding their battery capacity. https: preview.redd.it rww9h4bhp2g81.png?width=1048& format=png& auto=webp& s=132131c9a36d87139ad9a09e81fdab12ef576c7f Now let me talk about those 4680 s I mentioned and recent developments that have made Tesla s battery supply even more robust. https: preview.redd.it olz4b5hip2g81.jpg?width=1024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=d2388bb83ea6bc3935562fefaf2351eb07248673 **4680 s & New Contracts - Tesla s Battery advantage** Tesla announced on September 2020 in their Battery Day conference that they where making the new and improved 4680 battery cells. These are currently being built in California but soon will also be built in Texas and are being supplied by Panasonic to help scale Tesla production. What is the importance of the 4680 cells for Tesla vehicles? · Changing from the currently used 2170 cells to the 4680s will increase range by 24% \\* · 5 X reduction in electrical path means you will be able to super charge faster · The thermal management of the entire battery pack is improved so the cell cooling will be much more efficient · The dollar costs per kilowatt hour should be reduced by 50%. That is an estimated decreased cost of production of about $7 000! Below you can see an image from Battery day regarding the total benefits graphically: https: preview.redd.it 2osv0iijp2g81.png?width=1713& format=png& auto=webp& s=4507bec6569ca48209c5f5bb59cf078a762ba2c1 & #x200B Ok so now you understand how important the 4680 battery cells are and that battery cells will be the main constraint for the production of future electric vehicles let s have a look at how Tesla is securing their battery supply. Securing these batteries and specifically the 4680 s is a crucial step that Tesla wants to complete to ensure they maintain the biggest market share of the entire Electric Vehicle industry. Elon Musk said in 2021: “So in Texas we re building the Model Ys with the structural battery pack and the 4680 cells and we ll start delivering after final certification of the vehicle which should be fairly soon.” So Tesla needs to be able to supply their cars using the 4680s really quickly and at a pace such that the batteries aren t a bottleneck for production. The 4680 is also incredibly important for 2022 and 2023 when production of the Cybertruck will start. https: preview.redd.it mp3nxk0lp2g81.jpg?width=1536& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=15c96a7c513592316dec0dbdf05536f769f3e224 The 4680 cells will provide the Cybertruck with the needed strength and power to move the huge truck around. Just recently Tesla purchased a large order with Panasonic to increase their supply of 4680 cells Panasonic CFO Hirokazu Umeda said: “Tesla has put in an extremely strong request for the 4680 so when we are actually able to deliver the 4680 we plan to put top priority on Tesla. We ll first prioritize supplying Tesla once the verifications are complete.” Meanwhile competing auto manufacturers are struggling to provide any significant amount of Electric Vehicles and will continue to struggle and face the brink of bankruptcy whilst Tesla continues to grow volume production just as fast or faster than the EV adoption grows at. This partnership and many similar to it will allow Tesla to pay the lowest amount per kwH for their battery cells because they have generated long-term relationships with their providers and continuously focus on reducing the cost of the battery. [Share](https: theteslafolder.substack.com p how-tesla-has-conquered-ev-batteries?utm_source=substack& utm_medium=email& utm_content=share& action=share& token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo2NDkwODA3MiwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDgyMTg2NzAsImlhdCI6MTY0NDA5MjI2OCwiaXNzIjoicHViLTY0OTk4NSIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.O4MgcoIHQipPS1QtqBicjVfwjROTXqyzwcyMh7CE1Mo) TLDR Key-Take-Aways 🔋 “Tesla vehicle production is limited by total battery output.”“ 💰 Introduction of the 4680 cells could decrease cost of production by about $7 000 📏 4680 cells could increase range by 24% ✍ Partnership with Panasonic could secure batteries for an additional 400 000 vehicles | > · 5 X reduction in electrical path means you will be able to super charge faster > · The thermal management of the entire battery pack is improved so the cell cooling will be much more efficient Did you and I watch different battery day presentations? 4680 cells are meant to be cheaper to produce not to have super high power output or charging compared to previous cells. The problem is cooling and gets worse the larger the cell diameter is. This affects maximum supercharging speed and likely maximum power discharge. A tabless design offers less internal resistance but at the same time they re making the cylindrical cell thicker making heat transfer to the coolant more of a problem. [Here s](https: youtu.be l6T9xIeZTds?t=2765) Tesla s SVP of Powertrain and Energy Engineering explaining the problem. [Here s Elon tweeting](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1433824611825700868) about it. [Here s the battery day slide](https: i.imgur.com vncNEF0.jpeg) titled The Challenge With Big Cells Is Supercharging showing the 4680 cells even with their tabless design are as a whole no better and maybe even slightly worse than existing supercharger curves. There s a reason the Model S Plaid stuck with small-diameter 18650 cells and it s superior thermal management capability over even a current-gen 2170 pack. | Great post. Could you post links to your source material though. As for battery material production and companies other than Tesla actually having MEANINGFUL “deals” here are some links supporting your points. Rock Stock Channel https: youtube.com c RockStockChannel Specific vids: https: youtu.be jRyoe7QWnyE https: youtu.be eIz1kOBfL8A https: youtu.be OhNxe0xLh3Y Benchmark Minerals: https: youtube.com channel UCEesoPlgLQSPWxmgzmK742A | 58 | 2 | 9,387 |
slfrci | 84 | How Tesla has conquered EV Batteries whilst the competition struggles ... ***How Tesla has the best Electric Vehicle batteries 🔋 on the market and they ve successfully secured their supply of these batteries for the foreseeable future. Something Competitors HAVEN T done....*** The Battery quite literally powers the entire vehicle it is thus not strange that for the average Electric Vehicle the battery accounts for ***50%*** of the production costs! Despite the market not knowing how to react to Tesla s 4Q earnings call there was some hidden gem hidden in the recent news that most people simply aren t understanding. It is something that is going to be a key factor in determining which companies survive the future in the Automotive industry and Tesla has already secured their place. Let me tell you…. https: preview.redd.it prfjyxiep2g81.jpg?width=1832& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=6e43542bc133513cfbe3da98eee546179b53cf78 **Why are batteries so expensive and important?** The future of Electric Vehicles will be constrained by the amount of available high-quality batteries Elon musk himself even said in a 2018 tweet that: “Tesla vehicle production is limited by total battery output.” This is still true in 2022 and will continue to be the case for the foreseeable future until battery production meets the demand for Electric Vehicles. Batteries are so important because they account for such a large portion of the vehicles cost but why are they so expensive? This is mainly due to the materials that make up the battery due to the fact that the batteries need to be rechargeable the batteries use lithium-ion or sometimes also Nickel batteries. The components that make the cathode (such as nickel lithium or even cobalt) are the most expensive. This is because they need to be mined processed into high-purity chemical compounds and THEN they re set-up to be used in the battery. Although over the last few years battery prices have dropped 81% since 2013 their scarcity remains an issue https: preview.redd.it zjatwpvfp2g81.png?width=978& format=png& auto=webp& s=b7071d6d8916b99f8ec88194a602a2d6254b4e3b & #x200B The demand for electric vehicles is simply out-pacing battery production. So you better hope your favourite car manufacturer has enough batteries to supply their vehicles. Unfortunately this isn t the case. Yet Tesla has positioned themselves not only to have the best performing batteries with the new 4680 batteries they re also continuously securing contracts for long-term supply of raw materials and batteries to power their 50% YoY volume growth for the fore-see able future. Before you continue Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my independent research and work! Tesla has ensured that they are limiting the battery constraints for volume production whilst competitors are stumbling around the in the dark. Just look at the Fourth Quarter comments (below) made by “major-competitor“ Ford compared to Tesla s comments regarding their battery capacity. https: preview.redd.it rww9h4bhp2g81.png?width=1048& format=png& auto=webp& s=132131c9a36d87139ad9a09e81fdab12ef576c7f Now let me talk about those 4680 s I mentioned and recent developments that have made Tesla s battery supply even more robust. https: preview.redd.it olz4b5hip2g81.jpg?width=1024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=d2388bb83ea6bc3935562fefaf2351eb07248673 **4680 s & New Contracts - Tesla s Battery advantage** Tesla announced on September 2020 in their Battery Day conference that they where making the new and improved 4680 battery cells. These are currently being built in California but soon will also be built in Texas and are being supplied by Panasonic to help scale Tesla production. What is the importance of the 4680 cells for Tesla vehicles? · Changing from the currently used 2170 cells to the 4680s will increase range by 24% \\* · 5 X reduction in electrical path means you will be able to super charge faster · The thermal management of the entire battery pack is improved so the cell cooling will be much more efficient · The dollar costs per kilowatt hour should be reduced by 50%. That is an estimated decreased cost of production of about $7 000! Below you can see an image from Battery day regarding the total benefits graphically: https: preview.redd.it 2osv0iijp2g81.png?width=1713& format=png& auto=webp& s=4507bec6569ca48209c5f5bb59cf078a762ba2c1 & #x200B Ok so now you understand how important the 4680 battery cells are and that battery cells will be the main constraint for the production of future electric vehicles let s have a look at how Tesla is securing their battery supply. Securing these batteries and specifically the 4680 s is a crucial step that Tesla wants to complete to ensure they maintain the biggest market share of the entire Electric Vehicle industry. Elon Musk said in 2021: “So in Texas we re building the Model Ys with the structural battery pack and the 4680 cells and we ll start delivering after final certification of the vehicle which should be fairly soon.” So Tesla needs to be able to supply their cars using the 4680s really quickly and at a pace such that the batteries aren t a bottleneck for production. The 4680 is also incredibly important for 2022 and 2023 when production of the Cybertruck will start. https: preview.redd.it mp3nxk0lp2g81.jpg?width=1536& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=15c96a7c513592316dec0dbdf05536f769f3e224 The 4680 cells will provide the Cybertruck with the needed strength and power to move the huge truck around. Just recently Tesla purchased a large order with Panasonic to increase their supply of 4680 cells Panasonic CFO Hirokazu Umeda said: “Tesla has put in an extremely strong request for the 4680 so when we are actually able to deliver the 4680 we plan to put top priority on Tesla. We ll first prioritize supplying Tesla once the verifications are complete.” Meanwhile competing auto manufacturers are struggling to provide any significant amount of Electric Vehicles and will continue to struggle and face the brink of bankruptcy whilst Tesla continues to grow volume production just as fast or faster than the EV adoption grows at. This partnership and many similar to it will allow Tesla to pay the lowest amount per kwH for their battery cells because they have generated long-term relationships with their providers and continuously focus on reducing the cost of the battery. [Share](https: theteslafolder.substack.com p how-tesla-has-conquered-ev-batteries?utm_source=substack& utm_medium=email& utm_content=share& action=share& token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo2NDkwODA3MiwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDgyMTg2NzAsImlhdCI6MTY0NDA5MjI2OCwiaXNzIjoicHViLTY0OTk4NSIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.O4MgcoIHQipPS1QtqBicjVfwjROTXqyzwcyMh7CE1Mo) TLDR Key-Take-Aways 🔋 “Tesla vehicle production is limited by total battery output.”“ 💰 Introduction of the 4680 cells could decrease cost of production by about $7 000 📏 4680 cells could increase range by 24% ✍ Partnership with Panasonic could secure batteries for an additional 400 000 vehicles | Sir this is a Wendy s | Great post. Could you post links to your source material though. As for battery material production and companies other than Tesla actually having MEANINGFUL “deals” here are some links supporting your points. Rock Stock Channel https: youtube.com c RockStockChannel Specific vids: https: youtu.be jRyoe7QWnyE https: youtu.be eIz1kOBfL8A https: youtu.be OhNxe0xLh3Y Benchmark Minerals: https: youtube.com channel UCEesoPlgLQSPWxmgzmK742A | 30 | 2 | 9,388 |
slfrci | 84 | How Tesla has conquered EV Batteries whilst the competition struggles ... ***How Tesla has the best Electric Vehicle batteries 🔋 on the market and they ve successfully secured their supply of these batteries for the foreseeable future. Something Competitors HAVEN T done....*** The Battery quite literally powers the entire vehicle it is thus not strange that for the average Electric Vehicle the battery accounts for ***50%*** of the production costs! Despite the market not knowing how to react to Tesla s 4Q earnings call there was some hidden gem hidden in the recent news that most people simply aren t understanding. It is something that is going to be a key factor in determining which companies survive the future in the Automotive industry and Tesla has already secured their place. Let me tell you…. https: preview.redd.it prfjyxiep2g81.jpg?width=1832& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=6e43542bc133513cfbe3da98eee546179b53cf78 **Why are batteries so expensive and important?** The future of Electric Vehicles will be constrained by the amount of available high-quality batteries Elon musk himself even said in a 2018 tweet that: “Tesla vehicle production is limited by total battery output.” This is still true in 2022 and will continue to be the case for the foreseeable future until battery production meets the demand for Electric Vehicles. Batteries are so important because they account for such a large portion of the vehicles cost but why are they so expensive? This is mainly due to the materials that make up the battery due to the fact that the batteries need to be rechargeable the batteries use lithium-ion or sometimes also Nickel batteries. The components that make the cathode (such as nickel lithium or even cobalt) are the most expensive. This is because they need to be mined processed into high-purity chemical compounds and THEN they re set-up to be used in the battery. Although over the last few years battery prices have dropped 81% since 2013 their scarcity remains an issue https: preview.redd.it zjatwpvfp2g81.png?width=978& format=png& auto=webp& s=b7071d6d8916b99f8ec88194a602a2d6254b4e3b & #x200B The demand for electric vehicles is simply out-pacing battery production. So you better hope your favourite car manufacturer has enough batteries to supply their vehicles. Unfortunately this isn t the case. Yet Tesla has positioned themselves not only to have the best performing batteries with the new 4680 batteries they re also continuously securing contracts for long-term supply of raw materials and batteries to power their 50% YoY volume growth for the fore-see able future. Before you continue Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my independent research and work! Tesla has ensured that they are limiting the battery constraints for volume production whilst competitors are stumbling around the in the dark. Just look at the Fourth Quarter comments (below) made by “major-competitor“ Ford compared to Tesla s comments regarding their battery capacity. https: preview.redd.it rww9h4bhp2g81.png?width=1048& format=png& auto=webp& s=132131c9a36d87139ad9a09e81fdab12ef576c7f Now let me talk about those 4680 s I mentioned and recent developments that have made Tesla s battery supply even more robust. https: preview.redd.it olz4b5hip2g81.jpg?width=1024& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=d2388bb83ea6bc3935562fefaf2351eb07248673 **4680 s & New Contracts - Tesla s Battery advantage** Tesla announced on September 2020 in their Battery Day conference that they where making the new and improved 4680 battery cells. These are currently being built in California but soon will also be built in Texas and are being supplied by Panasonic to help scale Tesla production. What is the importance of the 4680 cells for Tesla vehicles? · Changing from the currently used 2170 cells to the 4680s will increase range by 24% \\* · 5 X reduction in electrical path means you will be able to super charge faster · The thermal management of the entire battery pack is improved so the cell cooling will be much more efficient · The dollar costs per kilowatt hour should be reduced by 50%. That is an estimated decreased cost of production of about $7 000! Below you can see an image from Battery day regarding the total benefits graphically: https: preview.redd.it 2osv0iijp2g81.png?width=1713& format=png& auto=webp& s=4507bec6569ca48209c5f5bb59cf078a762ba2c1 & #x200B Ok so now you understand how important the 4680 battery cells are and that battery cells will be the main constraint for the production of future electric vehicles let s have a look at how Tesla is securing their battery supply. Securing these batteries and specifically the 4680 s is a crucial step that Tesla wants to complete to ensure they maintain the biggest market share of the entire Electric Vehicle industry. Elon Musk said in 2021: “So in Texas we re building the Model Ys with the structural battery pack and the 4680 cells and we ll start delivering after final certification of the vehicle which should be fairly soon.” So Tesla needs to be able to supply their cars using the 4680s really quickly and at a pace such that the batteries aren t a bottleneck for production. The 4680 is also incredibly important for 2022 and 2023 when production of the Cybertruck will start. https: preview.redd.it mp3nxk0lp2g81.jpg?width=1536& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=15c96a7c513592316dec0dbdf05536f769f3e224 The 4680 cells will provide the Cybertruck with the needed strength and power to move the huge truck around. Just recently Tesla purchased a large order with Panasonic to increase their supply of 4680 cells Panasonic CFO Hirokazu Umeda said: “Tesla has put in an extremely strong request for the 4680 so when we are actually able to deliver the 4680 we plan to put top priority on Tesla. We ll first prioritize supplying Tesla once the verifications are complete.” Meanwhile competing auto manufacturers are struggling to provide any significant amount of Electric Vehicles and will continue to struggle and face the brink of bankruptcy whilst Tesla continues to grow volume production just as fast or faster than the EV adoption grows at. This partnership and many similar to it will allow Tesla to pay the lowest amount per kwH for their battery cells because they have generated long-term relationships with their providers and continuously focus on reducing the cost of the battery. [Share](https: theteslafolder.substack.com p how-tesla-has-conquered-ev-batteries?utm_source=substack& utm_medium=email& utm_content=share& action=share& token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo2NDkwODA3MiwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDgyMTg2NzAsImlhdCI6MTY0NDA5MjI2OCwiaXNzIjoicHViLTY0OTk4NSIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.O4MgcoIHQipPS1QtqBicjVfwjROTXqyzwcyMh7CE1Mo) TLDR Key-Take-Aways 🔋 “Tesla vehicle production is limited by total battery output.”“ 💰 Introduction of the 4680 cells could decrease cost of production by about $7 000 📏 4680 cells could increase range by 24% ✍ Partnership with Panasonic could secure batteries for an additional 400 000 vehicles | Sir this is a Wendy s | You think Tesla is currently paying $200 kWh for the battery? Also they haven t solved it yet. It still has to scale. | 30 | 3 | 9,389 |
smv336 | 67 | Discussion: Could Tesla be shifting Model 3 only from Freemont and Y only from Austin? Obviously this would only apply to USA. We know a few facts: * Austin will have Structural battery pack and 4680 * Austin will only produce model Y for now. * Austin production of Y has started but these wont be delivered until end of Q1. * Fremont does not have structural battery pack or 4680 for now (so model Y from there would be older versions). * Estimated delivery for Model 3s are much sooner. Most specs only 2-3 months away. Longest estimate is for Model 3 (regular) with aero wheels is October. * Estimated deliveries for Model Y is August put aero wheels on and its December. Clearly model Y from Fremont vs Austin would be very different vehicles. I just don t see how Tesla sells two versions within the same country for the same price and keep customers who get the Fremont version happy. You could make a smaller battery in Austin and or software limit so that the performance numbers are the same but you can t get around how one is heavier than the other. I think there is a risk of a class action lawsuit if you got an inferior car for the same price. Considering the estimated delivery dates for Y is much later I believe Tesla could be gearing up to stop model Y production in Fremont thus reducing capacity of Y in the short term. Once they finish delivering Fremont Ys they begin delivering the Austin Ys which they ve already started production of and are holding delivery of until end of Q1. Bit of a wild theory but do you see this happening? | Model 3 and Y share enough components it d be silly not to use Austin to crank them out. I expect Fremont to be more dedicated to S X since there s a big ass back up of those at the moment | I have never seen Fremont being misspelled so many times | 38 | 4 | 9,390 |
smv336 | 67 | Discussion: Could Tesla be shifting Model 3 only from Freemont and Y only from Austin? Obviously this would only apply to USA. We know a few facts: * Austin will have Structural battery pack and 4680 * Austin will only produce model Y for now. * Austin production of Y has started but these wont be delivered until end of Q1. * Fremont does not have structural battery pack or 4680 for now (so model Y from there would be older versions). * Estimated delivery for Model 3s are much sooner. Most specs only 2-3 months away. Longest estimate is for Model 3 (regular) with aero wheels is October. * Estimated deliveries for Model Y is August put aero wheels on and its December. Clearly model Y from Fremont vs Austin would be very different vehicles. I just don t see how Tesla sells two versions within the same country for the same price and keep customers who get the Fremont version happy. You could make a smaller battery in Austin and or software limit so that the performance numbers are the same but you can t get around how one is heavier than the other. I think there is a risk of a class action lawsuit if you got an inferior car for the same price. Considering the estimated delivery dates for Y is much later I believe Tesla could be gearing up to stop model Y production in Fremont thus reducing capacity of Y in the short term. Once they finish delivering Fremont Ys they begin delivering the Austin Ys which they ve already started production of and are holding delivery of until end of Q1. Bit of a wild theory but do you see this happening? | Pretending like you have any insight into what Tesla might do is a waste of time. They ll do whatever makes the most sense at the time. That s the only thing they ve reliably proven about what choices they ll make. | I normally don t correct but you misspelled it a few times. It s Fremont | 42 | 11 | 9,391 |
smv336 | 67 | Discussion: Could Tesla be shifting Model 3 only from Freemont and Y only from Austin? Obviously this would only apply to USA. We know a few facts: * Austin will have Structural battery pack and 4680 * Austin will only produce model Y for now. * Austin production of Y has started but these wont be delivered until end of Q1. * Fremont does not have structural battery pack or 4680 for now (so model Y from there would be older versions). * Estimated delivery for Model 3s are much sooner. Most specs only 2-3 months away. Longest estimate is for Model 3 (regular) with aero wheels is October. * Estimated deliveries for Model Y is August put aero wheels on and its December. Clearly model Y from Fremont vs Austin would be very different vehicles. I just don t see how Tesla sells two versions within the same country for the same price and keep customers who get the Fremont version happy. You could make a smaller battery in Austin and or software limit so that the performance numbers are the same but you can t get around how one is heavier than the other. I think there is a risk of a class action lawsuit if you got an inferior car for the same price. Considering the estimated delivery dates for Y is much later I believe Tesla could be gearing up to stop model Y production in Fremont thus reducing capacity of Y in the short term. Once they finish delivering Fremont Ys they begin delivering the Austin Ys which they ve already started production of and are holding delivery of until end of Q1. Bit of a wild theory but do you see this happening? | Model 3 and Y share enough components it d be silly not to use Austin to crank them out. I expect Fremont to be more dedicated to S X since there s a big ass back up of those at the moment | I normally don t correct but you misspelled it a few times. It s Fremont | 38 | 11 | 9,392 |
snkx3f | 40 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | Sentry alerts sent to my phone with a thumbnail image even better if the sentry clip is playable in the phone app. | Low High settings for auto heated seats. I just want them on for a bit when I first get in so it s not ice cold then I turn them off | 76 | 2 | 9,393 |
snkx3f | 40 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | Sentry alerts sent to my phone with a thumbnail image even better if the sentry clip is playable in the phone app. | Fullscreen mode for dashcam viewer and one-click buttons to jump backward and forward. | 76 | 3 | 9,394 |
snkx3f | 40 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | Sentry alerts sent to my phone with a thumbnail image even better if the sentry clip is playable in the phone app. | Addional feature: * Independent rear door locks (Left Right door should be able to be set independent of the other) -------------- Changes (both related to blocked visibility from hands at 9& 3): * move navigation directions back to the top (like it used to be) * move Side camera repeater to the top of the screen | 76 | 6 | 9,395 |
sp71wq | 403 | Tesla to roll out software update to fix minimum sound requirements for EVs on 578k vehicles says NHTSA [https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 10 tesla-to-roll-out-software-update-to-fix-minimum-sound-requirements-for-evs-on-578k-vehicles-says-nhtsa ](https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 10 tesla-to-roll-out-software-update-to-fix-minimum-sound-requirements-for-evs-on-578k-vehicles-says-nhtsa ) | Hey NHTSA -- How about getting BlueCruise to make an audible notification when the system gets disabled on a minor turn while people are hands-free on the highway. There a recall for that yet? Seems a bit more dangerous. | I hope they at least choose a pleasing sound if they have to do it. | 347 | 6 | 9,396 |
sp71wq | 403 | Tesla to roll out software update to fix minimum sound requirements for EVs on 578k vehicles says NHTSA [https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 10 tesla-to-roll-out-software-update-to-fix-minimum-sound-requirements-for-evs-on-578k-vehicles-says-nhtsa ](https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 10 tesla-to-roll-out-software-update-to-fix-minimum-sound-requirements-for-evs-on-578k-vehicles-says-nhtsa ) | Hey NHTSA -- How about getting BlueCruise to make an audible notification when the system gets disabled on a minor turn while people are hands-free on the highway. There a recall for that yet? Seems a bit more dangerous. | Another example of NHTSA targeting Tesla to fix a non-existent problem. Also the article notes that Tesla disbanded their media relations department which I think is hilarious | 347 | 60 | 9,397 |
sp71wq | 403 | Tesla to roll out software update to fix minimum sound requirements for EVs on 578k vehicles says NHTSA [https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 10 tesla-to-roll-out-software-update-to-fix-minimum-sound-requirements-for-evs-on-578k-vehicles-says-nhtsa ](https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 10 tesla-to-roll-out-software-update-to-fix-minimum-sound-requirements-for-evs-on-578k-vehicles-says-nhtsa ) | Total BS. I don t doubt there will soon be a day with Autopilot doesn t allow you to set a speed over the speed limit. You watch. | “Fix”…lol | 123 | 4 | 9,398 |
sprzkh | 219 | US Department of Transportation mandates CCS for EV charging infrastructure subsidies > The Secretary will not certify a State s designated Alternative Fuel Corridors for electric vehicles as being “fully built out” until the Secretary finds that the State s corridors meet the following criteria: > - EV charging infrastructure is installed every 50 miles along the State s portions of the Interstate Highway System within 1 travel mile of the Interstate unless a discretionary exception has been granted > - EV charging infrastructure includes at least four 150kW Direct Current (DC) Fast Chargers with ***Combined Charging System (CCS)*** ports capable of simultaneously DC charging four EVs > - EV charging infrastructure has minimum station power capability at or above 600kW and supports at least 150kW per port simultaneously across four ports for charging and > - Such additional considerations deemed necessary and appropriate by the Secretary of Transportation https: www.fhwa.dot.gov environment alternative_fuel_corridors nominations 90d_nevi_formula_program_guidance.pdf | Can we get some fucking chargers in national parks please? Visiting national parks in a Tesla is possible now but still requires a lot of planning. Having a few DCFC J1772s and a lot more electrified campsites would be great. | I hope Tesla goes with [J3068](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki SAE_J3068) CCS standard. **< j> ** EDIT: I did forget to add the < j> and some people right fully took this as being serious. Although I like J3068 better than J1772 and would like a standard I do not believe Tesla will suddenly add J3068 CCS2 plugs to US stations even if it would allow them the CCS grant and they wouldn t have to worry about anyone but Tesla s still using their superchargers (except a few imported EU cars and some [illegal to spec](https: www.charinev.org fileadmin Downloads Papers_and_Regulations CharINs_view_on_adaptors_within_the_Combined_Charging_System_v08.pdf) adapters). | 109 | 2 | 9,399 |
sprzkh | 219 | US Department of Transportation mandates CCS for EV charging infrastructure subsidies > The Secretary will not certify a State s designated Alternative Fuel Corridors for electric vehicles as being “fully built out” until the Secretary finds that the State s corridors meet the following criteria: > - EV charging infrastructure is installed every 50 miles along the State s portions of the Interstate Highway System within 1 travel mile of the Interstate unless a discretionary exception has been granted > - EV charging infrastructure includes at least four 150kW Direct Current (DC) Fast Chargers with ***Combined Charging System (CCS)*** ports capable of simultaneously DC charging four EVs > - EV charging infrastructure has minimum station power capability at or above 600kW and supports at least 150kW per port simultaneously across four ports for charging and > - Such additional considerations deemed necessary and appropriate by the Secretary of Transportation https: www.fhwa.dot.gov environment alternative_fuel_corridors nominations 90d_nevi_formula_program_guidance.pdf | Can we get some fucking chargers in national parks please? Visiting national parks in a Tesla is possible now but still requires a lot of planning. Having a few DCFC J1772s and a lot more electrified campsites would be great. | This needs to expand beyond interstates. There are other highways especially in non-densely populated areas of the west that are long distance travel routes. | 109 | 24 | 9,400 |
sprzkh | 219 | US Department of Transportation mandates CCS for EV charging infrastructure subsidies > The Secretary will not certify a State s designated Alternative Fuel Corridors for electric vehicles as being “fully built out” until the Secretary finds that the State s corridors meet the following criteria: > - EV charging infrastructure is installed every 50 miles along the State s portions of the Interstate Highway System within 1 travel mile of the Interstate unless a discretionary exception has been granted > - EV charging infrastructure includes at least four 150kW Direct Current (DC) Fast Chargers with ***Combined Charging System (CCS)*** ports capable of simultaneously DC charging four EVs > - EV charging infrastructure has minimum station power capability at or above 600kW and supports at least 150kW per port simultaneously across four ports for charging and > - Such additional considerations deemed necessary and appropriate by the Secretary of Transportation https: www.fhwa.dot.gov environment alternative_fuel_corridors nominations 90d_nevi_formula_program_guidance.pdf | Can we get some fucking chargers in national parks please? Visiting national parks in a Tesla is possible now but still requires a lot of planning. Having a few DCFC J1772s and a lot more electrified campsites would be great. | Gonna need that CCS adapter and retrofit ASAP | 109 | 59 | 9,401 |
sq3tww | 143 | Tracking the hardware changes to Model Y since launch. I ve been tracking the hardware changes to Model Y since it was launched in early 2020. Feel free to let me know what I m missing. **Added:** - Battery pack increased from ~75kwh to 83kwh - Exterior speaker under front bumper (Boombox was gimped in late 2021 by US gov t) - HEPA filter and Bioweapon mode - Full rear mega casting (instead of two halves) - Heat pump sound damping shroud - IR cabin camera (with IR flood light?) - Seven-seat option - Fixed turn signal cameras (no glare when turn signal active) - Heated steering wheel - Windshield wiper defrost - Double paned windows (front only) - New center console design - New door buttons and matte finish panels - Metal steering wheel buttons (and power seat buttons) - Dimming side mirrors - AMD Processor instead of Intel Atom - Lithium ion 12v battery - Sealed front ball joints - Matrix LED headlights (not all models yet) - USB in glove box for Sentry Mode + free thumb-drive - Tie down hooks in trunk (China only as of Spring 2022?) - 4680 cells and structural pack (Austin only employee-only as of May 2022) - Cargo cover (China only for now) - Turn signals are now amber colored and larger - Brake lights use the main C-shaped light instead of the tiny pill light - LFP battery standard-range versions **Removed:** - Passenger Lumbar - Radar :( - USB data on all ports except glovebox - rear door emergency release pullies (?) - 1 speaker (13 speakers instead of 14) - No regen strength control (software but effects hardware) - Mobile Connector (but reduced price $200 and Wall Connector to $400) | As far as i know the rear door pulls are still there they are hidden under a panel at least on my 2021 build. Edit: I also have usb data on my May 2021 | Double pane rear windows soon? | 37 | 3 | 9,402 |
sq3tww | 143 | Tracking the hardware changes to Model Y since launch. I ve been tracking the hardware changes to Model Y since it was launched in early 2020. Feel free to let me know what I m missing. **Added:** - Battery pack increased from ~75kwh to 83kwh - Exterior speaker under front bumper (Boombox was gimped in late 2021 by US gov t) - HEPA filter and Bioweapon mode - Full rear mega casting (instead of two halves) - Heat pump sound damping shroud - IR cabin camera (with IR flood light?) - Seven-seat option - Fixed turn signal cameras (no glare when turn signal active) - Heated steering wheel - Windshield wiper defrost - Double paned windows (front only) - New center console design - New door buttons and matte finish panels - Metal steering wheel buttons (and power seat buttons) - Dimming side mirrors - AMD Processor instead of Intel Atom - Lithium ion 12v battery - Sealed front ball joints - Matrix LED headlights (not all models yet) - USB in glove box for Sentry Mode + free thumb-drive - Tie down hooks in trunk (China only as of Spring 2022?) - 4680 cells and structural pack (Austin only employee-only as of May 2022) - Cargo cover (China only for now) - Turn signals are now amber colored and larger - Brake lights use the main C-shaped light instead of the tiny pill light - LFP battery standard-range versions **Removed:** - Passenger Lumbar - Radar :( - USB data on all ports except glovebox - rear door emergency release pullies (?) - 1 speaker (13 speakers instead of 14) - No regen strength control (software but effects hardware) - Mobile Connector (but reduced price $200 and Wall Connector to $400) | As far as i know the rear door pulls are still there they are hidden under a panel at least on my 2021 build. Edit: I also have usb data on my May 2021 | +Cargo cover from Shanghai | 37 | 6 | 9,403 |
sq3tww | 143 | Tracking the hardware changes to Model Y since launch. I ve been tracking the hardware changes to Model Y since it was launched in early 2020. Feel free to let me know what I m missing. **Added:** - Battery pack increased from ~75kwh to 83kwh - Exterior speaker under front bumper (Boombox was gimped in late 2021 by US gov t) - HEPA filter and Bioweapon mode - Full rear mega casting (instead of two halves) - Heat pump sound damping shroud - IR cabin camera (with IR flood light?) - Seven-seat option - Fixed turn signal cameras (no glare when turn signal active) - Heated steering wheel - Windshield wiper defrost - Double paned windows (front only) - New center console design - New door buttons and matte finish panels - Metal steering wheel buttons (and power seat buttons) - Dimming side mirrors - AMD Processor instead of Intel Atom - Lithium ion 12v battery - Sealed front ball joints - Matrix LED headlights (not all models yet) - USB in glove box for Sentry Mode + free thumb-drive - Tie down hooks in trunk (China only as of Spring 2022?) - 4680 cells and structural pack (Austin only employee-only as of May 2022) - Cargo cover (China only for now) - Turn signals are now amber colored and larger - Brake lights use the main C-shaped light instead of the tiny pill light - LFP battery standard-range versions **Removed:** - Passenger Lumbar - Radar :( - USB data on all ports except glovebox - rear door emergency release pullies (?) - 1 speaker (13 speakers instead of 14) - No regen strength control (software but effects hardware) - Mobile Connector (but reduced price $200 and Wall Connector to $400) | As far as i know the rear door pulls are still there they are hidden under a panel at least on my 2021 build. Edit: I also have usb data on my May 2021 | The heated steering wheel is made of faux leather the old one (with the 2 seams) was leather. Interior is now fully vegan | 37 | 8 | 9,404 |
sqfzd4 | 349 | Observations as a new Model S Plaid owner As the title says I m the proud new owner of a blue Model S Plaid. I m coming from a giant Toyota Tundra that got about 12 miles to the gallon so this is all very new to me. I d never even driven a Tesla until I took my car off the lot. I wanted to share some observations in case there was anyone else interested and also ask this community of experts some questions: * This thing is fast. Even in sport mode it will push you back in the seat hard when accelerating aggressively. Oddly where I notice the power the most is going up steep hills. This thing sort of scoffs at them which is great being in the Seattle area. * The yoke is a non-issue for me. I was used to it in the first mile. The Tesla dealership recommended I use the sport setting so I have to move it less and this seems to be a great call. * The regenerative braking takes some getting used to. Not using the actual brake pedal in almost all instances is an adjustment. * I had read horror stories about build quality issues but the 2022 looks to be done right. Only one minor paint chip which they are fixing next week. No complaints. Stuff happens * The infotainment screen is unlike anything I ve ever seen in a car (especially coming from Toyota s laughable En-Tune system). It is very responsive and the number of settings and preferences is mind boggling. * Autopilot and Navigate on Autopilot works flawlessly but despite all the videos I watched actually using it was anxiety provoking the first few times. I still haven t used auto lane change yet. * Charging was one of my main concerns. But there are Charge Point stations at my work and even my regular outlet gives me enough charge to recoup my daily driving. Though I having a 50 amp outlet put in week after next. * The audio is fantastic and although it goes to 11 (lol) I ve not needed to go past 4. The inclusion of Spotify is so useful and way easier than controlling it via Bluetooth and a rudimentary interface on my old Toyota. I can t go back. At this point I really only have a few complaints: * The things you plug the seat belts into in the back seats were designed by Lucifer himself to torment people with kids in booster seats. Yes there are extensions you can buy but researchers unanimously say this is unsafe for booster seats. Is there any way on earth to pull these out further? * My kids can t reach the rear entertainment screen from their booster seats. They just aren t long enough. There also doesn t seem to be a way to select media to play back there from the front screen (say for the passenger to select while driving). If I can cast video from my phone to my TV why can t I do similar to the back screen? Am I missing something? Overall I m incredibly happy with the car. I can work around those two issues but for a car that seems like everything was obsessively considered I don t understand why they exist in the first place….. | > My kids can t reach the rear entertainment screen from their booster seats. They just aren t long enough. Have you tried having longer kids | Can you use the Tesla app to control the media on the rear screen? I know you can do this for the main screen on my Model 3 | 467 | 2 | 9,405 |
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