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assuming that even experienced glimpses of it which i can barely remember and maybe i have it feels intuitively that location for allows for a more clear perception

loc4

humanity

loc5+

ive broken it for life

loc5+

the social dynamics of location 1 layer 4 are infused with a sense of unity diminishing the importance of individual roles

loc1lay4

this experience is typically not persistent in location 3 and usually does not allow someone to be functional while it lasts

loc3lay4

i can play such a good game of a location two layer three but it doesnt it doesnt necessarily feel like its authentic i can model it i can get people there i can like give them their little charmed life and like

loc2lay3

i remember thinking like location two again using this model was nonduality

loc2

what about the qualities that are associated with layer three

lay3

referred to in terms of the self

loc2

environment under trigger its more like 11 and then kind of off on my own doing my thing

loc1lay1

you dont have to fear location one you can leave access to duality as part of this

loc1

then do the same thing with layer three you know sink into layer three as much as you can while you have that sort of worst case type imagination happening and all of the conditioning up around it and let layer three to work its magic just you know hold it hold it active in your mind as much as you can in your experience as much as you can in terms of whatever that worst case scenario type thing would be or variations of it or whatever

lay3

layer one is going to percolate you know to an active state in that situation

lay1

realizing the ultimate truth

lay3

like initially you cant see anything its just an unknowable

loc3lay4

just sitting and staring and nature for ever possibly you know hoping squirrels bring you nuts or something so you have something to eat while youre staring out

loc5+

very much in the world feeling connected to everything all of the time just incredible oneness like like my heart would be just blossoming with effusive love

loc3lay3

aspects of life that disappeared and imagine that they were good and not focus on the negative ones

loc4

freedom

loc4

can you can you find the compassion element you know and the current layer three experience you know when youre and when you look at love and joy and compassion are there is there a relationship there in the current location to version of the experience

loc2lay3

but then because you didnt really lock it in you can you know read and absorb other materials when you really dive into something like youre diving into these materials rather than just casually skimming a book on it or something you know it can move you more in the direction of different experiences weve seen this a lot it happens with people who are freshly in fundamental wellbeing who dont have a lot of who havent watched a lot of spiritual videos or read a lot of books from you know about fundamental wellbeing or whatever to them

tfw

from layer 3 when one deepens into it

lay3

i was trying to generate a little bit of it in my body

lay3

your whole body is just sort of this universe sort of expression

loc5+

i think im in location one primarily still layer one with some access to other layers

loc1lay1

peace and bliss

loc1lay2

meta emotion of love joy passion

loc3

i could use my perception to track objects in space

nfw

it seemed like location one was most fitting

loc1

end point of the abrahamic traditions

loc3

yeah so personal emotion which includes all negative emotion is really more or less out of view in location three so only that universal love joy compassion meta emotion remains

loc3

its obviously influencing the range of fluidity that you have ease of access to because you can access deep experience of layer two

lay2

sometimes its emptiness

lay2

silence is really big

lay2

location 2 finders are more likely to intuitively feel that there is a correct decision or path to take when presented with choices even if there seems to be very little rationality behind the direction being taken

loc2

the natural landscapes of location 1 layer 4 are gateways to inner worlds where every tree and river tells a story of unity

loc1lay4

subjective experience becomes progressively centered on layer 2s central qualities like spaciousness and emptiness increasingly highlighting the impermanent and relative nature of other aspects of perceptual experience like thought emotion sensation and so on which seem to come and go all contained within the properties of layer 2

loc2lay2

senselessness or sort of centered fullness or just the body

lay3

find myself gravitating towards the silence and i can feel the pull like to i just want to be by myself i just want to sink right and which to me is wonderful but also slightly perilous because i could see how you go say too deep there but yeah you go off on that path

loc3

that sense of being presence being presence and being everywhere

lay3

transcendence

loc5+

when it shows up this way finders report perceiving what seem like patterns of energy that interact with the environment and other people like ripples that then influence or determine their responses

loc2lay3

unity

loc3

people will often describe this experience as being like looking at a painting or a movie screen

loc1lay2

both location 1 and 3 are dual locations in that there is a sense of distinction between subject observer and object observed however location 3 is subtly dual just like the experience of location 1 becomes more subtly dual in layer 2 than it is in layer 1

loc1lay2

can not be able to move parts of their body

loc4

that seems to draw me into the present moment to stillness a sense of presence

lay2

location two answer from sort of deep and layer four perspective has a sense of agency associated with it of some degree

loc2

sense of freedom

loc4

it will still probably have you centered you know and primarily looking from location one

loc1

and what you would be what would really indicate that shift is that duality returning to your experience where there really is a sense of something that is dissolving into or merging with the divine presence and everything and in addition to that meta emotion of love joy compassion um but you can also begin to experience in location two layer three

loc2lay3

and then a release of that to layer two

loc1lay2

aliveness or sense of beingness

loc2lay3

can be a fullness

lay3

usually but not totally

loc3

unusual perceptual effects

loc4

volcano of aliveness and a lot of creative power

loc1

they might have missed enough work that curious coworkers came looking for them found them passed out on their living room floor and called an ambulance

loc5+

three

lay3

experiencing that presence or fullness

lay3

the main thing was a sense of a kind of strong gravitational pull

loc3lay3

its like it used to be like 0 to 10 and now its like 0 to 1 and then the emotions are experienced very directly through the body like the anxiety when i feel it its i just feel it through the body like i would feel some something in my arms and my legs or in my head there is no resonance from the mind there is no like previously there would be a feedback loop like there is some thoughts going in there feeling the emotion and then the emotion is feeling the thoughts and there is this loop and now occasionally with strong triggers there is the mind loop going there is some sort of dialogue but there is no feedback like that

loc2

but i would also be very surprised if as part of this process you werent also getting glimpses of time and location three

loc3

deep peace

loc2

expansion of energy

loc3

five and six and seven

loc5+

even in location one

loc1

the people around and what made me come back a little bit it does not mean that i cannot go there anymore so it got basically it got easier to get there is only that as i said the last three weeks it has been very its been a lot of things going on and its yeah it was just more beneficial maybe to be in in location one day or one

loc1

fullness this

lay3

see what that has to to reveal to you and what that can sort of contribute to your system and its flexibility and the perspective that it gives and then you can move on to location three

loc3

to involve consistent changes toward this

loc4

this diminishes the dimensionality of perception which becomes progressively flat in later locations although someone is not likely to notice unless they come back to an earlier location

loc4lay4

sacred divinity

loc3

alien type feeling can be deeper in location too

loc4

is the fullness located just in your body

lay3

sense you know given your background and what youve traditionally gravitated from you know force towards system wise rooted into for decades um you know all of that stuff for sure i mean its all so classically layer three

lay3

self though it is much more subtle than the

loc3

all pervasive consciousness

loc3

vipassana theravada map

nfw

one undesirable issue for them is memory deficits

loc4

so i know what youre types of experiences yeah so what you mentioned there really sounds like this location eight

loc5+

but i felt like there was a very distinguishable sort of feeling that you know everything was just arising and that everything was that spacious container that rang with me so much i used that to kind of deepen into layer two and it was really nice like what a fantastic space sensation

lay3

and location two

loc2

so one of the few memories that i have held onto was the accident that i included in the material that i sent to you and annemiek

loc3

you mentioned that you still primarily experience the mind as your default in terms of where your perception centers that would be you know completely expected and location one

loc1

things feel very still whatever this thing is and i really enjoy being in this stillness

lay2

finders sometimes develop the perceptionbelief that their state of being is somehow of benefit to humanity or life as a whole

loc3lay3

devoid of negative emotion

loc3

its probably better to be putting your attention on fundamental wellbeing

tfw

im the fullness

loc3

they are also less likely to actively call up as many memories as they did before their transition

loc1

layer one is just removed from your nervous system

lay1

it was when my dad died and you know i was like crying but i was like well this is just love so this is okay i wouldnt say this is i want it to stop

loc3

right and so you know thoughts are completely real the divine is completely real when youre experiencing it from my perspective right its almost like youre taking some sort of filter and youre blocking access to things and then when you remove that filter those things are still there just because you are blocking access to things doesnt mean they actually go away it just means that youre turning a blind eye towards them you know it just means that youre sort of filtering them out and not observing them thats a very unusual perspective within fundamental wellbeing

tfw

combination of love joy and

loc3

location two is a sense

loc2

one with the divine

loc3

guess with the eyes closed there is a sensation of emptiness dont get it when my eyes are open

lay3

i was just like deliberately going into you know the experience of location three or of layer three because thats what ive been obsessing about lately

loc3lay3

when youre describing like a deeper nonduality is the absence of layer one

loc2lay1