Vox Populi, our weekly live chat begins tonight at 7:00pm PST.  Hope to see you then! 

AdLib6 hours ago

Hey PPO! 

AdLib3 hours ago

Hey Ad!  setting up here.  See you soon.  Fab news about Moore! 

pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago

Big win for humanity! 

AdLib3 hours ago

See you soon! 

AdLib3 hours ago

….  and poor Sassy carries Moore into obscurity……. ‘ bye Felicia

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

That was an oddity, a horse with two asses. 

AdLib2 hours ago

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Hey Funk! 

AdLib2 hours ago

Hi, Funk!  Hi 683

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Welcome Guest 683! 

AdLib2 hours ago

oops….  was it something I said? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Sure looks like Repubs want Dems to take over Congress next year! 

AdLib2 hours ago

Is Kushy Kushy Koo the next to go? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

I think so, probably why Trump is trying to move so quickly in attacking Mueller and the FBI. 

AdLib2 hours ago

I see you’re in the DMZ, Funk! 

AdLib2 hours ago

Yes, it seems like a tsunami of crap is headed Mueller’s way.  Shows he’s doing a good job. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Just visiting I assure you.  The wi-fi here is great here

funksands

2 hours ago

Funk, is Wi-fi a problem in your area? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

If Trump tries to take out Mueller, the streets will fill up with protests around the coountry and Dems will win massively in 2018.  They just have to run on stopping Trump. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Hey Funk…can you see Kimmy from your porch? 

AdLib2 hours ago

He’s making me a mojito right now! 

funksands

2 hours ago

The Republicans must be very nervous the closer it gets to mid-term.  Can the Dems maintain the rage and sceeer? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

He makes a mean Dennis Rodman. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Hey Pink congrats on Australia joining the marriage equality club! 

funksands

2 hours ago

Oh, funk!  You’re really at THAT DMZ? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Dennis Rodman: Bottle of cheap gin with a nose ring at the bottom

funksands

2 hours ago

PPO – With Trump in the WH, maintaining rage is no problem. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Uh…yeah!!  Totally! 

funksands

2 hours ago

Saw Rodman on Colbert – couldn’t understand a bloody word. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

PPO – You always have to check out Funk’s location, it’s always clever. 

AdLib2 hours ago

North Pole next week! 

funksands

2 hours ago

PPO – I think he accidentally put a ring through both lips. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Merry Funkmas! 

AdLib2 hours ago

brb

funksands

2 hours ago

Thanks, funk about marriage equality.  Enough people shouted away the looney religious bleaters.  to get it in.  Great

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

So…do you think Trump will try to fire Mueller? 

AdLib2 hours ago

Ad, OoooooK

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

funny Drumpf saying he is going back to ‘Merry Christmas.  Rest of Family photo: HAppy Holidays!  you can’t make this stuff up. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Probably.  When someone from his family gets threatened with prosecution. 

funksands

2 hours ago

PPO – It’s almost as if Trump is a moron. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Talking about Stuffups, what about her nibs being escorted out of the WH?  Fact or FakeNews? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Captain Sundowner is just trying to make it through the day.  Let’s not tease him too much

funksands

2 hours ago

Ad, gives morons a bad name. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Omartossa?  Just a trial run for when Trump is arrested. 

AdLib2 hours ago

WOuld pay a lot to see that! 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

What was her job again?  I’ve never been able to figure it out

funksands

2 hours ago

Yeah, do unto others as they would do unto you.  Oh…then we really should be calling Trump a douche. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Funk – Assistant to the Assistant Assistant of Assisting Assistance. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Hey how about a hand for Doug Jones?  I was pleasantly surprised on Tues!  We even had champagne.  When someone as odious as Moore gets embarrassed like that its time for a celebration

funksands

2 hours ago

Communications Director – of what, no one knows.  Token African-American stooge and puppet, happy to do it for the prestige.  Kicked back when fired ( she oughta be used to that from Drumpf by now

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

I wouldn’t mind having that job.  Sounds pretty easy

funksands

2 hours ago

I was really hoping Jones could win, that conscience would be enough but the black vote pushed him oover the top. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Well Done, Doug.  Stayed out of the gutter and did well.  Cheers to the AfAM voters .  Boos to the stupid White Women who voted for Moore-on

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

With her gone, is Undersecretary Meatloaf next?? 

funksands

2 hours ago

But if Moore woon as I thught he probably would, it would so destroy the GOP it could have been worth it.  But I’m glad Jones won instead. 

AdLib2 hours ago

MAybe Dennis? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

can alabama be forced to seat Doug soon? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

I hit on an interesting thought that I’ll run by you both (disclosure I suspect we are all white males).  The reason a majority of white women continue to vote for anti-women candidates like T***p and Moore is because they view their “white” as more valuable than the “woman” part of their identity when it comes to voting behavior.  What do you think? 

funksands

2 hours ago

PPO – Turns out that non-evangelical white women went to Jones in a big majority.  So the overall percentage of white women voting for a pedophile is misleading.  Only those most fervantly following Jesus supported child molestation. 

PPO – Nope, it’s up to McConnell to seat Jones and he has already said he won’t do so until the next term. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Yeah, that

funksands

2 hours ago

Hi folks. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Hey Murph! 

AdLib2 hours ago

funksands

2 hours ago

Heh! 

AdLib2 hours ago

Funk, you could be right.  Also, so many people vote Party no matter what.  There will always be True Blue and feral Red voters, so I suppose that the best result was that many Red Voters just didn’t show up. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Hi Murph, how are things? 

funksands

2 hours ago

I’ll take “Dispirited White Nationalists” for $400 Alex

funksands

2 hours ago

Hi Murph!  How’s the family? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Funk – I think you’re right, it’s all about race-first for the white women in AL.  Though as I mentioned, only a majority of evangelical white women voted for Moore so add the racism in religion into the mix. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Guess where I was last Tuesday.  I and five other “old hands” went to Alabama a week ago Tuesday to help with the Get Out the Vote Effort.  I was privileged to work with a half dozen black community organizers and proudly wore my “Obama Staff” Button as my “credential”. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Black voters were the key to the win.  In a state where voting can be made very difficult by those in power for the powerless where getting a large turnout, especially in the black community, is extremely difficult…..the NAACP did an extraordinary job of raising awareness, energizing voting blocs, challenging those who tried to keep black voters from casting a vote and pushing the voters to the polls in numbers that were as large as those that supported Barack Obama.  I was invited to volunteer by a friend who I worked with in 2008 and 2012.  She is a wonderful woman, a pastor, a civil rights advocate and an exemplary patriot.  My hat is off to her and those who turned apathy into wild excitement.  I had volunteered to work the state phone bank from home in Missouri.  The invitation was a real challenge to me….a call to really step up.  I am glad I did. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Interesting to think that the control of the Senate is now viewed as a 50/50 proposition even with the Dems defending so man seats! 

funksands

2 hours ago

Funny how the White Supremacists/Nazis have wriggled back under their rocks.  Is Trump too batshit crazy, even for them? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Well, Well done, Murph! 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Murph, I am proud of you for doing that.  I admire you putting your money where you mouth is

funksands

2 hours ago

I have to say that I had a good time. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

That is extremely cool, Murph!  What a victory all of this brought about, historic! 

AdLib2 hours ago

And I still completed my quota of 50 Obamacare signups here in Mo….a robust response is what we got as a whole. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Take a bow, Murph.  You were a big part of it. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

PPO…a small part really…but it felt like 2008. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Murph, let’s hope that that feeling extens to 2018 and gets even bigger

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Ad…thank you…..echoes of 2008…..I know people in the Dem national call center and they pushed on me. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Murph that’s good to hear.  Enthusiasm is so important for turnout

funksands

2 hours ago

Funk – Typically in an off year election, the party out of power does pretty well maintaining the seats they hold and usually picks up more seats.  With the win in AL, it’s now clear Dems could win far bigger even in red districts and states than previously hoped. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Funk…thank you…..a real privilege and to be standing there when our man took the stage was electric.  I stayed with a black family in a poor neighborhood….loved it. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

it will be hard to maintain the push, but we can do it.  Keep on Trump’s failures. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Murph – The more people in Obamacare, the greater the pushback when Repubs damage it, as they’re about to do again in the tax fraud bill. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Murph – AL just tore the floor out from under the GOP, no surprise Ryan is probably not running next year, he knows Dems are going to take over. 

AdLib2 hours ago

How do we stop the padding of ignorant RWNJs on judicial benches? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

funksands

2 hours ago

Ad….The Children’s Health Insurance Program has expired.  There is already a crisis in Mo over this…no extra cash to cover the gap.  Cuts in Obamacare, cuts in Social Security, cuts in Medicare, cuts in Medicaid.  Attacking the FBI while undermining Mueller himself…there is nothing will not do. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

This chart shows how enthusiastic Dems are this election cycle

funksands

2 hours ago

Wow, funk

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Funk…great chart…. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Yep, every race is being contested this year.  While I have a concern that the DNC will be able to meet the demand, no one is waiting for them to figure it out

funksands

2 hours ago

PPO – Not a lot we can do to stop the court packing until after the 2018 election.  But when Dems take over everything in 2020, hope there will be impeachments of those judges as they act improperly. 

AdLib2 hours ago

That chart is insane, Funk!  Can’t depend on the DNC, hope folks donate to local candidates. 

AdLib2 hours ago

OK, Ad.  Wondered how a curb could be put on them.  Shouldn’t take long! 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Too bad McConnell isn’t up this year, I think he’d be crushed. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Ad, Maybe Mueller can help there! 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

But Ryan probably won’t run and if he does, I like the Dem challenging him to beat him. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Ryan’s gotta go!  Slug

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

One can hope that the when the Dems have power again that they don’t make the same mistake Obama made and bring an etiquette book to a knife fight

funksands

2 hours ago

PPO – Sure would slow many bad things down if Trump is tied up in criminal indictments. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Going to be a lot of retirements in the GOP this year.  Time to cash in

funksands

2 hours ago

Even those forced to resign due to sexual harassment will land lucrative lobbying gigs for the firms that they helped with the tax bill and other regulatory cuts

funksands

2 hours ago

funk, true about knife fight.  Problem is, does anyone see a crotch-kicking candidate on the Dem’s side yet? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Funk – Damn straight!  However, I think that whoever the Dem nom is against Trump will have to be an aggressive person who campaigns on quickly reversing all the Trump and GOP damage to our country and democracy.  The Dem will have a mandate, I’m confident about that, to get down to business quickly. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Will Trump order Rosenstein to fire Mueller????  Cause???? 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Btw, there is rumbling that a huge leak of House members under investigation for harassment is coming in the next few days.  Resignations may run in the teens (no pun intended)

funksands

2 hours ago

Murph, Rosenstein has said that Mueller is the best man for the job. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Pink, I think so.  There are some non-traditional regular folks running for office that don’t seem shy about being assertive

funksands

2 hours ago

PPO…so Rosenstein gets fired and Trump orders the AG to do it? 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Funk, maybe so but as long as it means Dems take back Congress, so be it.  The House and Senate can conduct real investigations, block any and all of Trump’s insanity and drive him insane enough, I hope, to jump off the roof of the WH. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Murph, if it happens, that’s how it will happen

funksands

2 hours ago

funk….  there’ll be a lot of ‘bye Felicias’

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

PPO – I think oonly critch-kicking candidates will be competitive.  Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders will run, others will have to match their aggressiveness or be eliminated. 

AdLib2 hours ago

crotch, that is. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Good riddance. 

funksands

2 hours ago

Ad, not that!  He might damege the garden, or crack the concrete. 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

I wish we had someone a bit younger to run for President, but the avg age of House and State candidates is encouraging

funksands

2 hours ago

One of the strongest Dems in the area is going after a Congressman of long standing here by posting images of the properties he owns alongside his salary in the house and his fortunes prior to running for Congress.  Not a match. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Seems like every one of the Virginia Dem Delegates elected recently were fresh-faced rosey-cheeked millennials or X-ers

funksands

2 hours ago

I do wish Bernie would go away.  He’s a vote taker with no hope of victory.  ABB ANyone But Bernie

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Funk..another Saturday Night Massacre but this time the Congress is GOP…. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Murph – I don’t know, would Trump follow in Nixon’s footsteps?  A Saturday Night Massacre is exactly how to turn Congress and the public against him for good.  And the Dem Congress elected in 2018 will impeach him. 

AdLib2 hours ago

Murph, that’s an excellent idea.  Good strategy

funksands

2 hours ago

Ad..for now he has a GOP congress……so? 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

SNM?  Haven’t heard of that must look it up

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Can you imagine the explosion of natinwide protests and confrontations of Congresspeople if Trump fires Rosenstein and Mueller and others in the FBI?  Our democracy will be at stake, the floodgates will open! 

AdLib2 hours ago

PPO….Nixon’s firing of a line of DOJ superiors to get rid of a Special Counsel….he kept firing until he found someone who would do it. 

MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago

Oh, that.  OK thanks

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Funk – I actually prefer a younger candidate who can compete with Sanders and Warren.  Like bama, that person might come up out of relative obscurity. 

AdLib2 hours ago

With you on that, Ad.  Ominous silence tonight from Twitter in chief.  Wonder how his head is? 

pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago

Murph – MO is very red too but the blue wave next November will be a tsunami, maybe that Dem could do it by showing the corruption of the Repub. 

AdLib2 hours ago

I completely support what Sanders stands for and he has his finger on the pulse of what will help Dems win.  I don’t think I can vote for him if he runs as a Dem again

funksands

2 hours ago

I would support Warren in that role in a heartbeat though.  Ad I agree completely about a younger candidate to push them in a primary.  I am afraid that Biden is going to run though, which complicates things a lot.  He’s old, a terrible candidate and has a very spotty legislative history.  Good guy, lousy candidate to run

funksands

an hour ago

Ad…this guy is linking that property spotlight to the Tax Bonanza being provided to the rich by the GOP by showing images of the huge mansions in Newport RI suggesting that they are a step up the Congressman might be able to go for in the near future. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

I respect your position, funk.  Yes, if he runs, it shouldn’t be as a Dem.  He criticizes them as much as the GOP.  Not good for cohesion

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

PPO – Bernie shouldn’t be the nominee in 2020 but in 2016, I think he would have been the one to beat Trump.  That said, he did succeed in pulling Hillary towards the more Progressive positioons the country supports, if he helps to do that in 2020, the Dem who wins will be better off for it.  But Bernie’s window is over, I don’t see him winning in 2020. 

AdLiban hour ago

His running as a Dem was necessary in 2016.  Critical.  But to do it again in the same way in 2020?  Bad idea and counterproductive. 

funksands

an hour ago

Murph – As Trump nosedives in the polls along with Repub margins for 2018, I think Repubs could turn on him to try and save their seats. 

AdLiban hour ago

ad..re.  Bernie…agree….and I still consider his record of legislative action in the Congress….not a coalition builder. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad, that’s already occurring.  The second this monstrous tax bill passes, the sneering and snickering will begin, followed by distancing and outright antipathy. 

funksands

an hour ago

ad….i could see that happening…..esp.  once the the bonanza bill has passed….Or they will grab for a golden ring as they exit the merry go round. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad, I wonder will the Repubs bother.  The gerrymanders and sheep voting may still carry the day.  Trump needs to be impeached or forced out before the next election. 

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

Funk – Do you mean you wouldn’t vote for Bernie in the primaries?  There will be plenty of choices in 2020, it will probably be the biggest lineup we’ve ever seen! 

AdLiban hour ago

I just wish all national platform Dems would attack this tax bill for what it is rather than what it is not.  No one cares (nor should they) about the debt and deficit, instead this should be attacked for giving the rest of the $ of the nation to the people that already have all of it

funksands

an hour ago

Ad I wouldn’t vote for him

funksands

an hour ago

PPO…I continue to be stunned by a number of my neighbors who among those sheep……waiting in line to be sheared and slaughtered. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Excellent point, funk. 

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

I agree with Bernie, I just won’t vote for him as a Dem and it would take a special miracle of events to make me vote for him as an independent. 

funksands

an hour ago

Funk….you do not consider the debt to be a threat I know.  Can you give us the short skinny on why that is so. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Maybe if Fox News were somehow to be branded an enemy of the State and de-licenced, maybe sanity could come to Joe Sixpack America

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

You mean the $20T National Private Sector Surplus?  No I don’t consider that a bad thing. 

funksands

an hour ago

Pink, they are just gonna have to die off

funksands

an hour ago

The well is poisoned. 

funksands

an hour ago

PPO…more likely Fox will be named the Official State TV

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

True fnk

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

I kind of like Biden but he’s too old school (and old) to win the nom.  Warren has a built in base that was the engine behind Bernie, she’s tough and a fighter so I think she would be among the front runners.  Most important thing though is not to have am establishment candidate who does the old school pol thing of trying to please everyone (like Hillary tried).  The voters know that game too well and they don’t like it. 

AdLiban hour ago

I would get behind Warren in a big way.  If Warren Jr (whoever that is) ran, I’d be even more excited.  I’m afraid that Booker will run though (gag)

funksands

an hour ago

Murph – I think that’s a smart line of attack.  Trump is only increasing the economic inequality in the cuntry and that could be the best line of attack with Republicans. 

AdLiban hour ago

Ad, the Dems need more than merely GOP bashing to win.  Positive mandates, Aggressive advertising and GOTV rallies should be starting right the hell now

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

The Dems could run an entire national campaign for the next 4 years: “The GOP is for 1 thing only: Funneling your $ and political power into the hands of fewer and fewer people”.  If they stuck with it I think they’ succeed. 

funksands

an hour ago

I think the Dems should run on tax cuts.  Seriously. 

funksands

an hour ago

Ad..I keep thinking of that couple in the small market who were both working two jobs, having their kids watched by a grandparent, and still needing SNAP (food stamps) to just make it….as they drove away I noted their Romney bumper sticker.  Want to bet that this last go around they had one for Trump? 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Tax cuts, restoring clean air, water and facilities, kill Citizens United and putting people in jail! 

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

Funk…I like your campaign theme line. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

For the record, I do disagree that Bernie should not run as a Dem.  His policies are all Dem policies and he fits in perfectly with the Dem Progressive movement.  His not being a Dem is irrelevant to me, if we’re more about the right person, it shoouldn’t matter.  That said, I don’t want him to be the candidate, he dooes have enough baggage now and so many Hillary supporters would become adversarial, can’t bring the party together through Bernie so it shouldn’t be him.  We need everyone to come together. 

AdLiban hour ago

Ad…..Wholeheartedly agree. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

The Bernie “wing” and Hillary “wing” each think they can do it without the other. * sigh*

funksands

an hour ago

Sadly, Ad, you’re right. 

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

Well, folks, time for my afternoon trip to the shops.  Lovely 28C day sun shining.  See you all next week

pinkpantheroz

an hour ago

Funk…what was interesting in AL was a theme – party labels do not matter….what is the person running for, who are they for, and what will they do for us….not the party they are associated with. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

PPO….take good care. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph – Bottom line, in 2016, Bernie was the Dem candidate who was best positioned to beat Trump due to his authenticity on the economic inequality issues.  But 2020 will be different, it’s not going to be his time to win the nom running a deja vu campaign.  We need someone who’s fresher and doesn’t come with 2016 baggage. 

AdLiban hour ago

“Hi I’m your local Democratic candidate for Congress.  I’m going to vote for biggest national infrastructure project in the history of the world, a cut in FICA tax, and a goat-funded solar panel on every roof in America.  Im also going to break up Comcast, end baggage fees as well.” 

funksands

an hour ago

Ad…agreed…..but who? 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

*govt*

funksands

an hour ago

Funk – So if it was Bernie vs. Trump, you wouldn’t vote for Bernie? 

AdLiban hour ago

Oh for god’s sake Ad.  Seriously? 

funksands

an hour ago

Funk……and how many will be pissed off at that message automatically and how will it be spun?  as much as I like it I have learned that the GOP is very good at making gold look like goo. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Seriously though, Dems should really run as the anti-corruption party.  It is the #1 concern of most Americans and after the next couple of years they will be starving for that message.  They really do want someone to “Drain the Swamp”.  That can be a very compelling message. 

funksands

an hour ago

Funk, with you on Booker.  He is a DLCer, a corporate Dem who is constantly engaged in PR to build his image, very inauthentic on the issues he tries to be authentic about.  He won’t win the nom but he’s running. 

AdLiban hour ago

Any thoughts on Net Neutrality? 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Funk – That’s a god theme.  I think by Noov 2018, just running on a platform of “We will stop Trump from further destroying everything you care about!”  will be enough. 

AdLiban hour ago

Murph, I think the state lawsuits against it has legs.  It may be delayed for some time. 

funksands

an hour ago

One of the people I worked with closely in Al was a 74 year “old soldier” from the Civil Rights Movement…she kept saying over and over again…”My kids understood less than I did, and their kids knew even less, and so….how do people reject what they do not understand….”  She noted that the 30 percent turnout was good but where were the missing 70?  Too dumb to realize how much their votes count. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph, that is a depressing anecdote

funksands

an hour ago

Murph – By 2020, people will be so suffering under the economic oppression the Tax Fraud Bill causes, people will be desperate to put Dems in to reverse it.  None of Trump’s promises about how great things will be will have come true, he will be seen by the holdouts as betraying them. 

AdLiban hour ago

Funk….my internet provider has made a solemn promise not to engage in any action that creates different classes of users.  This may just be a marketing ploy but I like the company. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Funk…yes….she also had hard words about the disintegration of social structures in black communities. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Funk – Yes, we need a trustbuster as a Dem nominee, who will smash up the monopolies. 

AdLiban hour ago

Ad…..I point back to the anecdote about the pervasiveness of dumbness. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph, the challenge is that the big companies simply can’t abide by that promise.  They are competing against the very companies that their customers are using on their lines.  Comcast for example has its own streaming service.  They’d be stupid not to throttle Netflix or ask for a fee for access while they provide it as part of a package

funksands

an hour ago

Funk – I do think the lawsuits against the FCC ruling will succeed, there is nothing about it that is in the public interest and that is their charge, not making corporations wealthier. 

AdLiban hour ago

Funk…good points. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad, that also will be a winning message.  Anti-trust is a secret weapon I hope the Dems use

funksands

an hour ago

Because the GOP will adopt it if they don’t

funksands

an hour ago

Well…I am heading for the door……shortly….there is a lot of talk that the Trump admin will move on the Special Counsel during the Christmas season….fewer paying attention and less exposure with Congress out of town. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph – I see that as a glass half full story, after the AL victory, I think many of those who didn’t vote now see that their vote could really matter. 

AdLiban hour ago

Ad, sadly it will depend on what judge hears the case.  I expect it to go to the Supreme Court next year and THEN Net Neutrality will end….for now

funksands

an hour ago

Night Murph, it was great seeing you

funksands

an hour ago

Murph – All the prviders now promising to respect Net Neutrality all funded the lobbying to get it overturned.  Don’t believe them! 

AdLiban hour ago

Ad….I suggest that most of those who did not vote still do not know there was an election or if they do…that it mattered. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad…also a good point. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph – I think that’s a possibility but if Trump tries to fire Mueller, the blowback will drwn Trump. 

AdLiban hour ago

There is going to be a bonanza of municipalities starting up their own municipal fiber-optic systems.  Hundreds will get it done before the lobbyists catch up and convince red state legislatures to outlaw it

funksands

an hour ago

Funk…interesting idea….of course we in MO.  will not benefit from such a move…..retrograde is built into the body politic here. 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Funk – There are plain legal principles that will be hard to avoid seeing that make the FCC’s decision improper.  I think the odds are good no matter the judge or SCOTUS. 

AdLiban hour ago

Ad….I continue to be a cynic in re.  to “public reaction.” 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph, the tide will turn there.  Maybe not for years, but it will turn.  Good people like you will continue to turn the Titanic away from the ice before it sinks

funksands

an hour ago

Murph – I’m sure many remain ignorant about elections and government but it was big news and Moore was a major racist, I know many who didn’t vote had to hear about black people beating the racist. 

AdLiban hour ago

And with that…I wish you both a very pleasant night…I am going to do a lot sleeping this weekend.  I am buoyed by both of your stances: Courage!  Time will bring change! 

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad, there is no way the current SCOTUS will find against the ISP’s.  I would be shocked. 

funksands

an hour ago

Nigh Murph! 

funksands

an hour ago

Murph – Have you seen the anti-tax fraud protests?  The Obamacare protests earlier in the year?  The Women’s March?  Trump’s firing Mueller wil cause the biggest of all protests. 

AdLiban hour ago

I’m not far behind you. 

funksands

an hour ago

Ad, I hope you are right.  I’m sensing a lot of exhaustion on the demonstration front.  Trump does one thing well and that is exhaust good people. 

There’s a bit of a recharge now with the AL win.  Confidence.  If Trump tries to destroy our system of justice, I do think the floodgates open. 

AdLiban hour ago

A big protest is already scheduled in DC for the SOTU in Jan, if Trump fires Mueller, that may just come earlier. 

AdLiban hour ago

People need to learn to pace themselves.  If they knew what was good for them, they’d swear off social media and spend that time volunteering to help a local candidate! 

funksands

an hour ago

Dems can feel the wave for 2018 building, the energy is rising now.  Trump taking out Mueller would be lighting a fuse. 

AdLiban hour ago

Good.  Light it anyway

funksands

an hour ago

I have a nasty suspicion that the Mueller investigation isn’t going to do much to Trump and people are going to be very disappointed.  He’ll emerge relatively unscathed.  I just wish people wouldn’t pin their hopes on him

funksands

an hour ago

I agree about social media but we did see that it influenced millions in 2016 when the Russians used it.  So it has its value but helping candidates is a better use of energy. 

AdLiban hour ago

Well, Ad I have to toddle off.  Have a great weekend.  Good talking with you! 

funksands

an hour ago

Maybe but I think Mueller has many angles on Trump obstructing justice and colluding with Russia.  All he can do is refer the charges to Congress but when Dems take ver, they can impeach him.