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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right"
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I think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall? | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!"
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You don't fucking say | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit."
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Everyone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!"
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Been saying this since day one, would have gone completely different | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!"
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Duh | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh"
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Yeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?
Surprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…"
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If at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart.
One of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a "sitting or potential president". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case.
The Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for "crimes" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble.
America will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud."
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Thing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?"
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That’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!! | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct."
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Conservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho
They saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year."
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They wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal."
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No shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books.
But there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear",
">\n\nTrue."
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Yup ... National Guard and military would have been called out to apply any security necessary with severe and extreme prejudice with deadly force authorized. In this country, blacks still are not considered as a 100% human. Check congressional history and records. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear",
">\n\nTrue.",
">\n\nBlack or brown that’s obvious"
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear",
">\n\nTrue.",
">\n\nBlack or brown that’s obvious",
">\n\nYup ... National Guard and military would have been called out to apply any security necessary with severe and extreme prejudice with deadly force authorized. In this country, blacks still are not considered as a 100% human. Check congressional history and records."
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Trust, if it had been leftists, queer folks, or POC rolling up to actually improve the situation for the masses, everyone present would have been turned into mince pie.
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear",
">\n\nTrue.",
">\n\nBlack or brown that’s obvious",
">\n\nYup ... National Guard and military would have been called out to apply any security necessary with severe and extreme prejudice with deadly force authorized. In this country, blacks still are not considered as a 100% human. Check congressional history and records.",
">\n\nHe’s absolutely correct."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear",
">\n\nTrue.",
">\n\nBlack or brown that’s obvious",
">\n\nYup ... National Guard and military would have been called out to apply any security necessary with severe and extreme prejudice with deadly force authorized. In this country, blacks still are not considered as a 100% human. Check congressional history and records.",
">\n\nHe’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nTrust, if it had been leftists, queer folks, or POC rolling up to actually improve the situation for the masses, everyone present would have been turned into mince pie.\n\nEnough with the fucking kid gloves for these fools."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear",
">\n\nTrue.",
">\n\nBlack or brown that’s obvious",
">\n\nYup ... National Guard and military would have been called out to apply any security necessary with severe and extreme prejudice with deadly force authorized. In this country, blacks still are not considered as a 100% human. Check congressional history and records.",
">\n\nHe’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nTrust, if it had been leftists, queer folks, or POC rolling up to actually improve the situation for the masses, everyone present would have been turned into mince pie.\n\nEnough with the fucking kid gloves for these fools.",
">\n\nHe is not wrong."
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It would have been vastly different if the rioters were Democrats too.
The people responsible for protecting the Capital were almost all staunch Republicans - and very few of them did their jobs that day. They just sat back and watched, apparently hoping the insurrection would succeed. | [
"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear",
">\n\nTrue.",
">\n\nBlack or brown that’s obvious",
">\n\nYup ... National Guard and military would have been called out to apply any security necessary with severe and extreme prejudice with deadly force authorized. In this country, blacks still are not considered as a 100% human. Check congressional history and records.",
">\n\nHe’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nTrust, if it had been leftists, queer folks, or POC rolling up to actually improve the situation for the masses, everyone present would have been turned into mince pie.\n\nEnough with the fucking kid gloves for these fools.",
">\n\nHe is not wrong.",
">\n\nGoes without saying."
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"\"Had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned.\" - direct quote of Republican Senator Ron Johnson, March 11, 2021",
">\n\nIf he wasn't concerned or felt in danger in any way then why wasn't he out there greeting \"his people\" instead of hiding away like the other congresspeople? I mean he didn't feel endangered or concerned at all and he was all for \"stopping the steal\" to the point of trying to get fake electors to Pence, so why wasn't he out in front of the riot leading the way?",
">\n\nHe was probably in his office directing them.",
">\n\nOver his phone like Green, Bobert, Gosar, Gohmert, et al. Hawley too but he was running…away.",
">\n\nBrave Josh Hawley ran away.\nBravely ran away away.\nWhen danger reared it's ugly head,\nHe bravely turned his tail and fled.\nYes, brave Josh Hawley turned about\nAnd gallantly he chickened out.\nSwiftly taking to his feet,\nHe beat a very brave retreat.\nBravest of the brave, Josh Hawley!",
">\n\nr/ExpectedMontyPython",
">\n\nNobody expects the Spanish inquisiton!",
">\n\nThis was already obvious to anyone who has an ounce of critical thinking. Those Bundy family nuts pointed assault rifles at cops and then later took over a government office in an armed assault. They were treated with kid gloves the whole time. I’ll let you guess why.",
">\n\nI can’t qwhite figure it out.",
">\n\nThe Bonus Army was met with tanks because homeless WWI vets wanted benefits from the government.",
">\n\nThanks Patton.",
">\n\nAnd Eisenhower.",
">\n\nDon't forget Douglas MacArthur.",
">\n\nOr the Alamo.",
">\n\nWhat was that thing we were supposed to remember?",
">\n\nNot to run with scissors",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nRight. We literally have pics of a hundred Nat Guard soldiers lined up on the steps of the SCOTUS during peaceful BLM protests like a year before.",
">\n\nAs a White person I always thought those folks were beyond stupid. This country enshrined Slavery in the constitution…",
">\n\nShould have just formed a northern union instead of making a 3/5ths + senate compromise with the south.",
">\n\nNah, we should have just strung up every rebel when we had the chance.",
">\n\nAs soon as they seceded anyways, we should have ripped the compromises out.",
">\n\nWe did. Conservatives on the Supreme Court just made sure systemic racism could continue after they destroyed the 14th amendment for 80+ years",
">\n\nNo we didn't, we left the senate alive. We should have tossed the compromise of having a upper house (the senate).",
">\n\nSo here's how I see that conversation going:\nNorth: We've won. We kicked your asses. You lost. Now it's time for some freedom for the slaves and comeuppance on the slave holders/masters.\nSouth: Now lookee here. You won, we lost, fair and square. But look around you. See how many Negroes there are? Do you know how to deal with them? No. You don't. Why, I bet they'll be rebelling within the month.\nNaw, you need us to stay down here and regulate them Negroes. Keep an eye on em. We know their tricky and sloth-like ways. We know how sneaky they can be first hand! Why, they'd just walk all over yous.",
">\n\nI was convinced that even the white Walmartians were going to be repelled with force. I’m surprised as hell that they got in alive. For me, it’s proof that law enforcement is at least MAGA sympathetic.",
">\n\nThey got helping hands down the stairs on the way out. If this was a mob of black people the Capitol steps would have run red with blood.",
">\n\nWould cops have moved barricades aside for a crowd of black men yelling anti-government slogans and waving flagpoles and hockey sticks?\nYeah, didn't think so.",
">\n\nThey would have been shot long before their crowd was allowed to even be that big",
">\n\nThey would have been shot before leaving their bed without committing any crime.",
">\n\nThe real bombshell (not really) is that Cheney insisted that any language on this topic be excised from the final report.",
">\n\nFinally we're starting to talk about the elephant in the room, that if the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian they would have been arrested the night before for transportation weapons, and conspiracy , and if there would have been an insurrection it would have been a blood bath.",
">\n\n\nif the terrorists weren't white and mostly Christian\n\nAh yes, those who follow the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.\nTeachings such as: \"Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. And HANG MIKE PENCE!\"",
">\n\nEpiscopalians have been growing on me.",
">\n\nSo they are genuinely nice folks… and reluctantly Christian… that’s awesome. We need a religion that just focuses on being nice to people. Like the one commandment should be, don’t be an asshat.",
">\n\n\nA spokesman for Jan. 6 panel member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told The Washington Post last month that committee staffers had “submitted subpar material for the report that reflects long-held liberal biases about federal law enforcement” and that she would not “sign onto any ‘narrative’ that suggests Republicans are inherently racist or smears men and women in law enforcement.”\n\nso regardless if they were facts, she wasn't including them. definitely not bias. Thanks, Liz. We celebrate your mediocrity.\nEdit: this is an illustration of how \"back the blue\" became about preventing critique of the police IN OPPOSITION TO protecting the police when the two options are at odds which they often are.",
">\n\nwhat is often a \"narrative\" for sheltered white people is quite simply \"reality\" for a lot of other folk, either non-sheltered (aka poor) whites or PoC",
">\n\nprecisely.",
">\n\nWalker’s testimony echoed the observations of many Americans, including President Joe Biden, who noted the stark difference in the law enforcement response to protests in D.C. following the May 2020 murder of George Floyd and the lax security at the Capitol on Jan. 6.",
">\n\nWe've been saying this since it started on January 6, 2021. \nNow we're approaching the second anniversary and it finally gets a headline.",
">\n\nI was seething about that the day it happened, I'm pretty sure I said as much here, on the day and several times since.\nWe had just watched a solid years of BLM protests being met with violence, and then we watch a literal coup attempt be handled with kids gloves.",
">\n\nNone of them would have been allowed to leave the area. They all would have immediately been arrested and charged with crimes - at least the ones that weren't shot to death. And many would have been killed that day had the crowd been black instead of white.",
">\n\nYep and would not have needed “help” finding them either",
">\n\nIf they were black nobody would’ve died inside the Capitol Building, they all would have died on the steps.",
">\n\nWe’ve seen this time and time again. \nThink of the Bundy standoff in 2014 where ranchers had an armed standoff occurred between state and federal officials and ranchers, who were assisted by the likes of groups like the Oathkeepers, because their feelings got hurt when their cattle were to be confiscated after they let them illegally graze for years on publicly owned land. \nNow think of every protest against things like white supremacy, nationalism, and police brutality that has transpired in the last several years. Isn’t it peculiar that the police virtually always put their backs to the likes of white supremacists and face BLM protestors while holding their weapons? \nOf course, it’s basic math, but what the house sargent said is true - had the January 6th seditionists been a few shades darker, they wouldn’t have even made it to the steps of the Capitol Building.",
">\n\nThey let those Nazis waltz into the Capitol building and smear shit on the walls.\nI am sure some of them would have even joined in if we didn't live in the age of the camera phone.",
">\n\nIf they would.have been black they would all be charged with murder for the people that were killed during the insurrection. I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. The sentences would be much harsher if they were sentencing black people.",
">\n\nTell us something we didn't already know.",
">\n\nCats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them!",
">\n\n\nI have nipples Greg, could you milk me?",
">\n\nThank you Tom",
">\n\nThere would have been semi trailers full body bags.",
">\n\nYup. It would be called the \"Capitol Massacre\" if they were black.",
">\n\nNaw they would give it some heroic sounding name and call it “the first terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11.” \nThen every Black person from D.C. to California would be harassed, searched and monitored by law enforcement just for knowing or looking like someone who was there. Including every Black officer on duty at the Capitol that day\nEdit: A word",
">\n\nTruth! And every black person flying into DC would be subject to \"random\" enhanced security screening.",
">\n\nAnd then coincidentally red states would propose laws revoking black's citizenships almost on demand",
">\n\nFailure to make swift and severe examples of the perpetrators of an attempted coup will serve as encouragement to future plotters. It is written.",
">\n\nWould of been the Jan 6 massacre.",
">\n\nI was saying the exact same thing as it was happening. I was remembering the BLM protests that summer and how rampant police brutality was. I couldn’t even keep up with all the videos of it. \nThen these shitheads had an hour and a half to waltz around the besieged capitol building. Police kindly asking them to leave.",
">\n\nif anybody saw Joe Scarborough's angry response the next morning, he put it out there plain as day: if they were black they'd be gunned down on the steps, if they were Muslim there'd be snipers on the roofs.\nWe hardly talk about Jan 6 from a racial perspective, but if you know you know and America's collective racism was on full display for the world to see on that day, because ONLY American white people can storm the fucking US Capitol and only suffer a handful of casualties and still be fellated to this day as \"heroes\" by a significant portion of the population.\nAnd please hold off on the usual \"well I'M not that way\" responses. If you're on this sub I'm sure you're not, but you know damn well who I'm talking about",
">\n\n\n“You’re looking at somebody who would get stopped by the police for driving a high-value government vehicle. No other reason,” Walker said.\n\nsolid truth\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"",
">\n\n\ninsert conservatives saying \"but we had a black president, racism is dead\"\n\nQuote said black president: \"[had I stormed the white house like the white guy just did] I would have been shot.\"",
">\n\nOr disabled.\nA couple years back a relatively small group of people with disabilities gathered in Congress and participated in a completely peaceful act of civil disobedience. Why? To demand affordable healthcare. They were literally dragged out, many were elderly, or in wheelchairs. Many were arrested. Simply for asking for the same rights to healthcare 99% of every other major industrialized nation provides.\nWhereas on Jan 6th domestic terrorists stormed the Capitol with intentions to kill members of Congress and the VP, install a dictator, and overthrow democracy. The vast majority walked away from it with literally no consequences whatsoever. Many still consider themselves heroes, and only wish they had used more violence.",
">\n\n“…would be vastly different if ______ were Black” applies to most areas of life in the US.",
">\n\nSounds about white.",
">\n\nI've also heard that income inequality is a thing in the United States too.",
">\n\nWe know",
">\n\nOr other minorities. Or women wanting abortion rights. Or LGBT people also looking for more rights. Or democrats.\nRly just anyone that wasn't MAGA and this would have been treated like the darkest time in your countries history",
">\n\ntheres no wouldve, blm protester were shot at",
">\n\nIt was not a “riot”, but an insurrection. Calling it a riot is misinformation.",
">\n\nOh 100%. Black people can't even protest peacefully without a police response.",
">\n\nOr even better, the police send in plain clothes officers to stir up trouble so the uniformed ones have an excuse to go ham.",
">\n\nI honestly think this is why so many conservatives are convinced it was some conspiratorial third party that did everything on January 6. They are just thinking \"When the libs protest our guys get in there and stir up all kinds of hell, surely they did the same to us?!?\"",
">\n\nJust ask Fred Hampton…except you can’t because the American government killed him",
">\n\nAnyone who’s not a “not-all-republiQans” republiQan knows this.",
">\n\nBlack folk would have made better looking t-shirts.",
">\n\nIt's just so insane that Republicans who instigated the event are just walking free. Republican terrorists having free reign with no consequences shows a broken system where certain people live outside of the law. This country is shameful as long as Republicans are allowed any power.",
">\n\nLafayette Square was a police riot against BLM protestors because Trump wanted a photo op. The protestors didn't even have to attack police, and they were assaulted by thousands of heavily-armored police just for being there.\nNow put the same protestors on the capitol steps on 1/6, the same riotous police on the other side, and fucking tell me they don't just cut loose with every automatic weapon in reach.\nWe haven't even caught up to the white privilege that kept Congress from even opening a fucking investigation until June of that year. And no hearings for months after. And STILL NO GOD DAMNED DOJ ACTION AGAINST THE ORGANIZERS.\nBut if the 1/6 insurrectionists had been black, you better believe every black community organizer in the country would be under police surveillance.\nWe've been there before, and it's like we haven't progressed at all.",
">\n\nWhile the statement is though provoking, I'd classify it under the \"No shit Sherlock.\" section of my brain. \nJan 6th was orchestrated by a white president backed by a mob of predominantly rural white men, to grab for power, that they didn't earn in a democratic government.\nThey used everything at their disposal, from meritless legal cases, social media misinformation, and physical violence when they didn't get their way. \nThe way I look at it, is that it's January 6th taught us that white supremacy needs to be stamped out as an ideal with much more force than we've been doing thus far.",
">\n\nMost obvious statement of the year award goes to...",
">\n\nWe would have witnessed a massive slaughter",
">\n\nyup…",
">\n\nThere would have been scores of dead people",
">\n\nWell, so many of the MAGA crowd are softies and weenies underneath their tough veneer, they needed to handled softly and gently lest they become upset.",
">\n\nLet's say for the sake of argument that Trump had actually won the election and it was a mob of \"radical leftists\" that rioted throughout the capitol that day, violently clashing with police, carrying out a coup, calling out for the death of political leaders, seeking to overturn the results of the election. \nThe Republican/conservative response would be fucking sensational. They wouldn't be demanding that you \"get over it\", they wouldn't whitewash and downplay what happened, they wouldn't make excuses, they wouldn't search endlessly for a way to rationalize or justify it, they wouldn't call it a \"false flag\", they wouldn't dismiss the gravity of what happened, they wouldn't have voted against an investigation.\nThey'd take it to an excessive level, they'd be willing to go much farther than any current investigative effort has gone. They wouldn't roll their eyes at the use of the term \"insurrection\", \"terrorist\", \"coup\", they'd be eager to use these terms and more, Tucker Carlson and every Fox News segment, hell, every damn right wing broadcast would devote a portion of their time every week to reminding us of the heinous and egregious actions committed by the radical left. \nTrump would be blasting it every day across conservative social media, calling for justice in every form, perhaps retribution and retaliation, while it would give him the perfect pretext to play the victim and call for the institution of new laws that extend his term indefinitely. \nRepublicans would go on a crusade, they wouldn't stop until democrats are deprived entirely of their authority and power. Their voters would support any method, any measure, any piece of legislation. \nConservatives far and wide would do a complete 180, there would no downplaying, no rationalizing, no false flag conspiracies, there would be a counter-revolutionary campaign, perhaps even a manhunt, it would result in the further vilification and stigmatization of every self proclaimed liberal or progressive inclined to even criticize Trump. \nI shouldn't have to explain all of this though, it's pretty obvious that Republicans are entirely disingenuous in their petty efforts to minimize the events of January 6th, in their efforts to make light of it, to demonize investigators, to paint themselves as the victims in all of this, the politically persecuted, to continue using whataboutism to deflect from the issue, to even justify violence, it's fucking shameful.",
">\n\nI hate how they limit this to black in the media. Police hate the left and the poor, and respond violently to things they do.",
">\n\nSo many people forgot how the police responded to the Occupy Wall Street protests",
">\n\nOr the G20 summit in Toronto",
">\n\nExactly what a lot of us thought that day…",
">\n\nThey would have gone full auto.",
">\n\nThat much was obvious, but it’s important that those in positions of power actually say so publicly so the terrorists and co. can’t further twist the narrative.",
">\n\nYeah. They’d be dead.",
">\n\nThis was obvious since the day after Jan 6.",
">\n\nJan 6th wouldn't have happened if it was black protesters.",
">\n\n...because they wouldn't have have stormed the Capitol...\nThere finished your statement.",
">\n\nFile this under \"Things we've known for quite some time\"",
">\n\nYeah. No fucking shit. Watching it unfold on live TV being met with the most impotent law enforcement response of all time was about as clear a display of white privilege as there has ever been in history. If the the 1/6 insurrectionists were black, they'd have been killed before they got to the doors.",
">\n\nYknow, on January 6 2021, my Republican friend told me plainly, “I think this is fair/if BLM can riot and loot then so can they”. We stopped being friends quite fast.",
">\n\nChris Evans said that very thing. The next day.",
">\n\nIt would have looked like Tiananmen Square.",
">\n\n100% it would have been different and I bet it would have been suppressed much more violently.\nReaction to the BLM riots would've been a lot different too if we apply the same \"ethnicity\" swap.",
">\n\nThis is probably the understatement of the year. A sad, unfortunate fact that has only been changing at a snails pace.",
">\n\nThis is obvious as fuck and we all know it, but I don't feel like it's going to be a very effective argument, either legally or culturally.",
">\n\nIf the rioters were Black or any sort of POC, there would have been fries about how un-American they were, how they should be grateful to be in America, etc.",
">\n\nIt’s scary to think about. Trump wanted the military to gun down protestors at the White House, remember?",
">\n\nLiterally anything but white would’ve resulted in significantly more casualties and response.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nGoes without saying, really.",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nYeah no shit",
">\n\nMan says what we all know",
">\n\nFact!",
">\n\nmom, i want giancarlo esposito\nwe have giancarlo esposito at home",
">\n\nUh, yeah. He's right. There would have been a lot of people shot in that crowd, by either the police or National Guard. But a bunch of white folks? Nah they're not terrorists; that's just \"legitimate political discourse.\"",
">\n\nThey'd still be trying to bleach the blood off of the steps.",
">\n\nWe saw evidence of this before the 1/6 attack when armed white people were occupying state capitols without so much as an order to disperse v. unarmed journalists being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas while reporting on unarmed BLM protesters.",
">\n\nThe police endorsed MAGA.",
">\n\nBlows my mind that there are any non white male republicans. \nHow can you be ok with a whole party of law makers (who make the laws you have to live by) saying you are second class citizens?\nYou vote for them? You want that? Crazy.",
">\n\nWe know.",
">\n\nThey would’ve shot one of them in the back, even if they were unarmed",
">\n\nI said that on Jan 6",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nIn other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.",
">\n\nTruth",
">\n\nThat is Absolutely True! They would have been arrested or shot on site!",
">\n\nAbsolutely it would have been. They would have all been at minimal teargassed and rubber bulleted or if not shot by live ammunition on site. The kids gloves were on and it was apparent because of the insurrectionists being mostly white. It would have been a massacre based on how the US treats POC.",
">\n\nor brown or yellow or jews",
">\n\nHe ain’t wrong.",
">\n\nAnother option is the rioters had been muslims. US would likely have bombed something in the arab world in retaliation.",
">\n\nWe all know this. Even all the whites know this.",
">\n\nNo shit they would have been mowed down because this country is so ass backwards in terms of equity.",
">\n\nAnd we all talked about that, and the fact that there would have been snipers on the rooftops. He’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nIn other news, water is wet",
">\n\n\"no shit\"",
">\n\nTrue story",
">\n\nWater is wet.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nNow imagine if the rioters were dinosaurs!! That would have been way way different.",
">\n\nWould have had everyone’s photos and names printed the next day fr",
">\n\nI mean, yeah.",
">\n\nIt means something that a black sergeant at arms, who was running the national guard on site at the time, is willing to come right out and say it.",
">\n\n\nwho was running the national guard on site at the time\n\nAhem... there was no national guard on site during the insurrection on 1/6. In fact the whole issue is about how Trump refused to release any national guard.",
">\n\nThey would have rolled tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue had the insurrectionists been black and not a bunch of toothless fucking white hillbilly idiots, intermingled with your standard overly privileged rich white hillbilly idiots",
">\n\nThey would’ve been mowed down, by the cops.",
">\n\nI love posts about Jan 6 because the dumbest possible takes are always there, equivocating it to the \"Antifa/BLM\" riots, and the talking points are so well rehearsed half the time they refer to it as 'last summer,' as if it isn't almost 2023. Just silly.\nThat and they'll trot out the \"$1 billion in damages\" line as if that means something in reference to dozens of unaffiliated protests over the course of months in every single state where 90+% of demonstrators were peaceful and orderly",
">\n\nThey brought out swat for peaceful protests after Ferguson and arrested people who were just in the area.",
">\n\nI mean... He's not wrong.",
">\n\nWe saw what happened all year when the protesters aren’t white",
">\n\nThey get away with doing $1b in damages?",
">\n\nThink it was closer to $2B",
">\n\nNo fucking shit! Biden said it a day afterward.\nEvery black man, woman and child there would have been killed if that happened.\nFUCK ANYONE who says otherwise",
">\n\nNo shit 2020 proved that. As if there was any doubts.",
">\n\nThere would have been tanks, tear case, special forces and tons of deaths.",
">\n\nIn other news, water continues to be wet.",
">\n\nIn other news: Pope, catholic.",
">\n\nProbably right",
">\n\nHe’s not wrong!",
">\n\nI think most all knew that, tells us something we didn't know like why we did not shoot the 1/6 insurrectionist of the wall?",
">\n\nYou don't fucking say",
">\n\nWould have been like the end of The Last Samurai",
">\n\nMost people know that except for the delusional individuals who don’t want the neighbors to know their racist as shit.",
">\n\nLe duh!",
">\n\nEveryone knows if 1/6 were blacks even marching near the Capitol Huey gunships would have been circling in the air mowing them down like blades of grass. This country still hasn’t confronted its racism.",
">\n\nBeen saying this since day one, would have gone completely different",
">\n\nI've said this from the beginning, would've crushed them with force",
">\n\nnO wAy!?!?!?!???!",
">\n\nThanks, captain obvious.",
">\n\nDuh",
">\n\nI mean, we saw how they treated peaceful, lawful BLM protesters in Washington DC.",
">\n\nYeah, y'all remember what they did to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers? Operation Condor?\nSurprising amount of clarity for a federal employee of his station.",
">\n\nOh, definitely.",
">\n\nCould you imagine if Obama had incited an insurrection? Every redneck wannabe patriot woulda mobilized armed to the teeth to fight the corrupt government.",
">\n\n\"no shit\" everyone paying attention.",
">\n\nA lot of racists in this thread…",
">\n\nDefinitely! The National Guard would have been out!",
">\n\nIf at all this they don't prosecute Trump and a host is Republicans the country will absolutely fall apart. \nOne of the reasons Trump already announced his candidacy for 2024 is to avoid prosecution as a \"sitting or potential president\". Prosection of that high of an official is definitely unprecedented but I think warranted in this case. \nThe Roman Republic fell apart, in part, because Caesar realized he would be prosecuted by the Senate for \"crimes\" he committed in the past. When he was Consul he was immune from prosecution, and the only way to continue to be immune was to be Consul for life. Thus he caused a civil war and ended a government just to stay personality out of trouble. \nAmerica will follow the same path unless Trump goes to jail for life. That or I'll eat my hat I guess.",
">\n\nHope you're not suggesting there are \"systematic injustices\" in America. That's how DeSantis and his mini-mes have defined \"wokeness\"; if they get their way it'll be illegal to say stuff like that out loud.",
">\n\n\"No shit\", said every white and black person in the US.",
">\n\nThing is if the rioters hadn’t backed down after cops fired they could have reached congress. A more motivated and radicalized crowd would have done orders of magnitude more damage. The main threat to western society is not “woke” it’s people that think that since society doesn’t conform to their own social and religious norms then democracy isn’t a luxury they can afford.",
">\n\nNo shit.",
">\n\nNo shit! Black bodies would have been strewn across the capital from one end to the other",
">\n\nOf course it would have been. It would have been a blood bath",
">\n\nUh duh, do these people not live in the real world?",
">\n\nWalls would be so stained red they Nickname it the red house after.",
">\n\nThat’s why so many law enforcement members got injured they didn’t have the stomach to kill people that looked like them that should have been put down!!! I wouldn’t have had a bullet left because I know if they had succeeded they would have hung every black officer there!!!",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nLet's give not mincing words a try: They would be dead. They would all have been shot dead in the street.",
">\n\nI'll take \"Saying the quiet part out loud\" for $500.",
">\n\nSad but very obviously true",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nI was saying this as it was all going down.",
">\n\nLevel of Correctness: 1,000%",
">\n\nWe know this.",
">\n\nI suspect about 30% of Americans believe that white people can’t be terrorists - except perhaps “antifa”",
">\n\nno. shit. have these people been watching any news the last 30 years?",
">\n\nUh yeah. Guaranteed.",
">\n\nOh hell yes. There would have been black bodies everywhere. We all know this.",
">\n\nTechnically correct is the best kind of correct.",
">\n\nYeah no fucking shit … if the rioters was black or brown it would have been a blood bath the group would have never made it to the steps let alone in side",
">\n\nConservatives: B..bu..but BLM tho\nThey saw an instance where institutionalized racism wasn't enforced on television camera and are upsetti spaghetti about it.",
">\n\nIt would've been a straight-up blood bath.",
">\n\nUnderstatement of the year.",
">\n\nTell us something we don’t know",
">\n\nThey wouldn't even made it to the suburbs of Washington before the police send busses to send everyone in jal.",
">\n\nImagine if they’d been Muslim!",
">\n\nNo shit. If they were a few shades darker, it would have been a massacre listed in history books. \nBut there weren’t fatalities until the police figured out that these people would kill them if given the choice. Then the veneer of race was stripped away and they were left with life and death.",
">\n\nIt would have ended at the steps. They'd have gunned them all down the minute they started charging.",
">\n\nIt would have been a fucking horrific massacre.",
">\n\nThat might be the truest statement I have ever read on the Internet",
">\n\nLol no duh",
">\n\nNo shit! A traffic stop is different for colored people let alone them storming the capital. The cops and security would have a field day.",
">\n\nYes they would have done to them what they SHOULD have done to the MAGA idiots, mow them all down. Play stupid games-",
">\n\nDC would have been on lockdown",
">\n\nNo shit",
">\n\nBruh, we would have all been shot down",
">\n\nAnd water is wet so I hear",
">\n\nTrue.",
">\n\nBlack or brown that’s obvious",
">\n\nYup ... National Guard and military would have been called out to apply any security necessary with severe and extreme prejudice with deadly force authorized. In this country, blacks still are not considered as a 100% human. Check congressional history and records.",
">\n\nHe’s absolutely correct.",
">\n\nTrust, if it had been leftists, queer folks, or POC rolling up to actually improve the situation for the masses, everyone present would have been turned into mince pie.\n\nEnough with the fucking kid gloves for these fools.",
">\n\nHe is not wrong.",
">\n\nGoes without saying.",
">\n\nIt would have been vastly different if the rioters were Democrats too. \nThe people responsible for protecting the Capital were almost all staunch Republicans - and very few of them did their jobs that day. They just sat back and watched, apparently hoping the insurrection would succeed."
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I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like "it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else | [] |
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"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
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We elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
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You should feel bad about it now, I guess | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing."
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I should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess"
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Yeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed."
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It's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree! | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me."
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What do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”? | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!"
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I don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating "inclusiveness" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?
I find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.
(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.) | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?"
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I agree 100% | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)"
] |
>
There are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%"
] |
>
If it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit"
] |
>
But how visible is your disability!!!!!111
After all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people."
] |
>
Giving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that."
] |
>
Using an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you."
] |
>
Let me guess, the r word?
Edit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said… | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us."
] |
>
No, but they said that ClownsAllAroundMe must be on the spectrum cause they lack empathy for disabled people. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us.",
">\n\nLet me guess, the r word?\nEdit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said…"
] |
>
Yeah, that would do it. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us.",
">\n\nLet me guess, the r word?\nEdit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said…",
">\n\nNo, but they said that ClownsAllAroundMe must be on the spectrum cause they lack empathy for disabled people."
] |
>
Is this about Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer? | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us.",
">\n\nLet me guess, the r word?\nEdit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said…",
">\n\nNo, but they said that ClownsAllAroundMe must be on the spectrum cause they lack empathy for disabled people.",
">\n\nYeah, that would do it."
] |
>
You should watch the YouTube channel called hook they have good inspirational stories | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us.",
">\n\nLet me guess, the r word?\nEdit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said…",
">\n\nNo, but they said that ClownsAllAroundMe must be on the spectrum cause they lack empathy for disabled people.",
">\n\nYeah, that would do it.",
">\n\nIs this about Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer?"
] |
>
Ues | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us.",
">\n\nLet me guess, the r word?\nEdit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said…",
">\n\nNo, but they said that ClownsAllAroundMe must be on the spectrum cause they lack empathy for disabled people.",
">\n\nYeah, that would do it.",
">\n\nIs this about Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer?",
">\n\nYou should watch the YouTube channel called hook they have good inspirational stories"
] |
>
As a disabled person, I agree
Healthy people use against us, Tom Ferguson on the TV overcame his disability, you’re just LAZY!! | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us.",
">\n\nLet me guess, the r word?\nEdit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said…",
">\n\nNo, but they said that ClownsAllAroundMe must be on the spectrum cause they lack empathy for disabled people.",
">\n\nYeah, that would do it.",
">\n\nIs this about Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer?",
">\n\nYou should watch the YouTube channel called hook they have good inspirational stories",
">\n\nUes"
] |
>
You're right ...Life was much better when we used them for comic relief. | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us.",
">\n\nLet me guess, the r word?\nEdit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said…",
">\n\nNo, but they said that ClownsAllAroundMe must be on the spectrum cause they lack empathy for disabled people.",
">\n\nYeah, that would do it.",
">\n\nIs this about Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer?",
">\n\nYou should watch the YouTube channel called hook they have good inspirational stories",
">\n\nUes",
">\n\nAs a disabled person, I agree\nHealthy people use against us, Tom Ferguson on the TV overcame his disability, you’re just LAZY!!"
] |
> | [
"I'm blind and I can CONFIDENTLY say that the vast majority of the blind community doesn't want their every move to become inspiration porn. People say things like \"it's incredible you do these things in spite of your disability\" but it's like, dude, we literally do not have any choice in the matter. We just want to go about our lives and mind our own buisness like anybody else",
">\n\nI can see this now. Thank you",
">\n\nI see what you did there- Wait a tick...",
">\n\nWe elected the two students with Down's Syndrome as prom king and queen. They were super happy. This was back in 2000 though, so nobody recorded it and put it on the internet. It was just something nice we thought we were doing.",
">\n\nYou should feel bad about it now, I guess",
">\n\nI should feel bad about everything I've ever done or said, if Reddit is to be believed.",
">\n\nYeah, inspiration porn sucks. It’s getting to the point where even genuinely heartwarming stories about the disabled community annoys me.",
">\n\nIt's the push for inclusiveness! It has gone overboard- I agree!",
">\n\nWhat do you mean by “the push of inclusiveness”?",
">\n\nI don't think I used the correct term at all. Essentially, there are a lot more disabled folk used in stock images and whatnot as you said (a good thing that is maybe having odd side effects?). Businesses get a pat on the back for demonstrating \"inclusiveness\" by using us in their ads, then carry on with their usual business completely unrelated to disability? I hope that makes sense?\nI find that instead of awareness and understanding, disabled folk are getting more infantilization and/or fetishizing which is kind of strange.\n(Literally agreeing with your post so if you are downvoting me, you're downvoting your own choir.)",
">\n\nI agree 100%",
">\n\nThere are tons of posts on subs like r/humansaremetal of disabled people just doing fairly mundane shit",
">\n\nIf it’s obvious pandering I don’t like it either, but I appreciate that visual media has become more inclusive of representing different types of people.",
">\n\nBut how visible is your disability!!!!!111\nAfter all, it is not you who may decide how to approach that.",
">\n\nGiving people with a toddler's cognitive abilities a diploma so you can make a feel-good news story about it. It's like the new version of a freak show, but if you call people out on it, they turn on you.",
">\n\nUsing an ableist insult to stand up for disabled people doesn’t actually help us.",
">\n\nLet me guess, the r word?\nEdit: Don’t understand the downvotes, I’m just asking what the deleted comment said…",
">\n\nNo, but they said that ClownsAllAroundMe must be on the spectrum cause they lack empathy for disabled people.",
">\n\nYeah, that would do it.",
">\n\nIs this about Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer?",
">\n\nYou should watch the YouTube channel called hook they have good inspirational stories",
">\n\nUes",
">\n\nAs a disabled person, I agree\nHealthy people use against us, Tom Ferguson on the TV overcame his disability, you’re just LAZY!!",
">\n\nYou're right ...Life was much better when we used them for comic relief."
] |
You calling him toxic for not killing people | [] |
>
No, I am calling him toxic for ignoring the well being of those around, bring kids into a war they weren't suppose to be in, and not killing those irredeemable monsters who deserve it. | [
"You calling him toxic for not killing people"
] |
> | [
"You calling him toxic for not killing people",
">\n\nNo, I am calling him toxic for ignoring the well being of those around, bring kids into a war they weren't suppose to be in, and not killing those irredeemable monsters who deserve it."
] |
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