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> This is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity." ]
> So why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community." ]
> Lot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity . You know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? BIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines. Also, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical." ]
> overwhelmingly Old white men. For the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men." ]
> I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. McConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. They are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s." ]
> Just need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate." ]
> Who cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court" ]
> Expand the Supreme court!!!
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted." ]
> More diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!" ]
> Yes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say" ]
> I hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man" ]
> The responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did..." ]
> Yes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account" ]
> When do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both." ]
> Charlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat. Regina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. With these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and professional diversity that the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary. Second sentence. First 3 paragraphs.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge." ]
> Whatever gets the job done
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs." ]
> Yes! 💯💯💯
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done" ]
> Nice
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯" ]
> Now expand the supreme court
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice" ]
> No one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court" ]
> Quality over quantity
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd." ]
> We don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity" ]
> *their
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is" ]
> Idc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their" ]
> I mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid." ]
> How so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race." ]
> Because its easier to think that.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?" ]
> Does diverse also mean qualified?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that." ]
> Yes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated "Well Qualified" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration: As of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. This compares with Trump: As of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated "well-qualified," 61 were rated "qualified," and 9 were rated "not qualified." [emphasis: mine]
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?" ]
> ”9 were rated “not qualified.” And now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]" ]
> Indeed.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court." ]
> The real issues /s
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed." ]
> Don’t care, are they qualified .
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s" ]
> What an annoying article title
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified ." ]
> Hey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title" ]
> It’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!" ]
> Maybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards." ]
> "Diverse" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb." ]
> Having diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are." ]
> Diverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch." ]
> How Naive.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences." ]
> And?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive." ]
> So he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?" ]
> I'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment." ]
> thank goodness
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years." ]
> Can't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be. Maybe a little bit of both.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness" ]
> At this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both." ]
> Diverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years" ]
> ẞdb
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?" ]
> Biden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb" ]
> Diversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity." ]
> I couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is "diverse" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards." ]
> I couldn't care less about diverse. You don't say?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc." ]
> So how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these Do you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment? And you call others racist lol
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?" ]
> Well I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol" ]
> I think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus. Fact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend." ]
> Politics are dumb
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications." ]
> Crazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb" ]
> He is good at spending other people money too
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color." ]
> Who's money is he spending and on what exactly? What's he doing different than every other President?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too" ]
> Well good for dementia joe
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?" ]
> So diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe" ]
> Why even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?" ]
> This just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do" ]
> So
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!" ]
> Is he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo" ]
> What about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? THE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias. There is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that." ]
> Now all we need is merit and skills to match
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts." ]
> Any of those judges progressive or all of them just conservative neolibs like Biden?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.", ">\n\nNow all we need is merit and skills to match" ]
> Biden showing more diversity than the overt white supremacist that preceded him. Slow news day, AP News?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.", ">\n\nNow all we need is merit and skills to match", ">\n\nAny of those judges progressive or all of them just conservative neolibs like Biden?" ]
> Priorities.
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.", ">\n\nNow all we need is merit and skills to match", ">\n\nAny of those judges progressive or all of them just conservative neolibs like Biden?", ">\n\nBiden showing more diversity than the overt white supremacist that preceded him. Slow news day, AP News?" ]
> But not where it matters soooo
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.", ">\n\nNow all we need is merit and skills to match", ">\n\nAny of those judges progressive or all of them just conservative neolibs like Biden?", ">\n\nBiden showing more diversity than the overt white supremacist that preceded him. Slow news day, AP News?", ">\n\nPriorities." ]
> So end affimative action then?
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.", ">\n\nNow all we need is merit and skills to match", ">\n\nAny of those judges progressive or all of them just conservative neolibs like Biden?", ">\n\nBiden showing more diversity than the overt white supremacist that preceded him. Slow news day, AP News?", ">\n\nPriorities.", ">\n\nBut not where it matters soooo" ]
> Jumbo Joe looks like he’s about to risk it all in this pic
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.", ">\n\nNow all we need is merit and skills to match", ">\n\nAny of those judges progressive or all of them just conservative neolibs like Biden?", ">\n\nBiden showing more diversity than the overt white supremacist that preceded him. Slow news day, AP News?", ">\n\nPriorities.", ">\n\nBut not where it matters soooo", ">\n\nSo end affimative action then?" ]
> Yeah thank God they left out the tender bits cause ya know they ain't having no drawers
[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.", ">\n\nNow all we need is merit and skills to match", ">\n\nAny of those judges progressive or all of them just conservative neolibs like Biden?", ">\n\nBiden showing more diversity than the overt white supremacist that preceded him. Slow news day, AP News?", ">\n\nPriorities.", ">\n\nBut not where it matters soooo", ">\n\nSo end affimative action then?", ">\n\nJumbo Joe looks like he’s about to risk it all in this pic" ]
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[ "Biden is a white guy with many leeways to appoint people of color to positions of power.\nObama said how a murdered kid might be his child and every news outlet made a living hell out of that innocent comment saying he was stirring racial sentiments.\nHe had to walk on eggshells not to upset both republicans and white people in his own party by refusing to go too \"woke\".", ">\n\nLesson is don't walk on eggshells because those people still win when you do that. How much police reform was there? That's what walking on eggshells gets you.", ">\n\nAnd there was still a massive backlash ie. Maga & Trump", ">\n\nI think the point is that he walked on eggshells and there was still a massive backlash. If that's the response no matter what, then he should just do what's right.", ">\n\nIf you're focused on results (and most of us in r/politics are), then Obama totally made the wrong play by catering to republicans, but if you're focused on your legacy, then Obama played it perfectly. Obama was a reasonable, middle-of-the-road democrat and the republicans still acted ridiculously and history will remember that.\nThat said, I wish he put the needs of the country over his legacy as the first black president. We sorely need a progressive revolution and it's kinda icky that Biden has been more progressive than Obama while still being a far cry from what this country needs.", ">\n\nBiden is accomplishing more than Obama did in two terms, with the exception of the ACA. \nVoting rights could be his ACA.", ">\n\nHe's ordered far less bombs being dropped on foreign countries(Afghan's and the like)than any other past POTUS in decades.\nSo far.", ">\n\nHow many did trump order besides that one Iranian General he had drone-striked? I honestly don’t remember.", ">\n\nRemember when people thought Dems should have kicked Manchin out of the party in 2021?", ">\n\nHalf of people are stupid.", ">\n\n~~stupid~~ Uneducated.\nWhich is part of the right’s strategy.", ">\n\nThere’s a lot of stupid people too. You know, the ones that think Manchin should be kicked out of the party or primaried.", ">\n\nAlso anyone who voted Trump in 2020. I'm sick of the \"uneducated\" excuse, in 2016 I sort of understood it, blah blah tuned out blah blah disillusioned blah blah.\nBeing willfully ignorant no longer gets you the uneducated excuse, after 4 years of Trump you are a bonafide imbecile to vote for him again.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is fine, but is their judicial philosophy progressive? \nIn NY, Gov. Hochul just nominated the first Latino judge to be our new chief justice. Sounds great, right? But he's an anti-abortion, anti-union conservative. Oops?\nEdit: To be clear, my issue is with the article's framing, not Biden's nominees. They should be highlighting their pro-labor stances as the true sign of progress, not reducing them to the color of their skin. \nIf it were that simple, Clarence Thomas would be as much of an ally as KBJ. Clearly not the case.", ">\n\nWhat research have you done?", ">\n\nClearly none. He’s “just asking questions” \n… in a very misleading way. \nTo answer the question: these judges are quite progressive overall", ">\n\nNo, my point is that focusing on the racial/gender/sexual diversity of the judges as opposed to their judicial philosophy is unproductive. \nIf the article were titled \"Biden's Judicial Nominees are the most Progressive and Pro-Union in Decades,\" I'd have no problem with it.", ">\n\nUnproductive to you. There is value in diversity. Not just in progressivism. (This coming from someone almost too progressive for the Democratic party)", ">\n\nWhy? That's an odd and counter-productive position.\nWho got more done for the state of California and wider America from a progressive standpoint? White Male Henry Waxman or multiracial (black/S Asian) Kamala Harris?\nIt's very emphatically not even close.\nOf course there's \"value in diversity\". The crucial point is that it's merely one aspect to a Progressive society.", ">\n\nI wasn't disagreeing with anything you said. Just pointing out OP is giving no value to diversity.", ">\n\nThis is good. The judiciary should reflect the community at large and only act in ways that protect the constitution and the community.", ">\n\nSo why not get the most qualified in the position rather than concentrating on melanin? It wouldn't bother me if they were all black, indian, women, whatever long as they're the best for the position. I think this diversity first is nonsensical.", ">\n\nLot of concern troll - ey takes about diversity .\nYou know how I know these judges are more progressive and more likely to be public defenders ? \nBIDEN APPOINTED THEM. And I read beyond headlines.\nAlso, no one questioned when Trump's appointments just happened to be overwhelmingly Old white men.", ">\n\n\noverwhelmingly Old white men.\n\nFor the lifelong seats, the GOP tries to pick younger candidates for example Amy Barret was in her late 40s.", ">\n\nI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Biden doesn’t really have a choice in this. There is no telling if the Dems will retain the Senate in two years. They probably assumed they’d lose it this time around. \nMcConnell has made it clear that he has no scruples about holding up appointments for a Dem administration and driving through as many as possible under a GOP administration. Biden has to get in every appointment possible, because they are already behind the ball and seeing the damage a right-leaning partisan judiciary is doing. \nThey are trying to stop the bleeding, it will be 10+ years before we see the judiciary shift back to the left, but only if they push through as many as possible and get lucky with keeping the senate.", ">\n\nJust need to put five more judges on the Supreme Court", ">\n\nWho cares about their quality? Only diversity counts. If I was one of those nominees and POC, I would be fucking insulted.", ">\n\nExpand the Supreme court!!!", ">\n\nMore diverse selections than Trump? You don’t say", ">\n\nYes trump bad, trump a very very racist bad man", ">\n\nI hope he makes sure to get them all in before the election. Just like some other did...", ">\n\nThe responses in this thread show exactly why a progressive nominee will struggle with the POC vote. Progressives only care about progress, not representation, representation absolutely matters and this overwhelmingly white sub only seems to care about representation if they fit their values. Wonder why Bernie couldn't get much POC vote? He rarely ever talked about issues that POCs care about, but this sub just wants to parade around POCs that will do their bidding as opposed to doing what matters for POCs and taking their views into account", ">\n\nYes, but there's no shortage of qualified diverse applicants. Its not a choice between the two, its the choice to not take both.", ">\n\nWhen do people understand diverse does not mean better or qualified. Pick the most qualified AND moral judge.", ">\n\n\nCharlotte Sweeney is the first openly LGBT woman to serve on the federal bench west of the Mississippi River and has a background in workers’ rights. Nina Wang, an immigrant from Taiwan, is the first magistrate judge in the state to be elevated to a federal district seat.\nRegina Rodriguez, who is Latina and Asian American, served in a U.S. attorney’s office. Veronica Rossman, who came from the former Soviet Union with her family as refugees, is the first former federal public defender to be a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.\nWith these four women, who were confirmed during the first two years of President Joe Biden’s term, there is a breadth of personal and \n\nprofessional diversity\n\nthat the White House and Democratic senators have promoted in their push to transform the judiciary.\n\nSecond sentence. First 3 paragraphs.", ">\n\nWhatever gets the job done", ">\n\nYes! 💯💯💯", ">\n\nNice", ">\n\nNow expand the supreme court", ">\n\nNo one I’ve met likes him. Bernie and Trump are still the two most liked. What a joke our country has become. News like this is absurd.", ">\n\nQuality over quantity", ">\n\nWe don’t give af .. we want qualified people we don’t care what there skin color is", ">\n\n*their", ">\n\nIdc. I care about qualified people holding those positions, not their fucking race. This is so stupid.", ">\n\nI mean yeah Biden has very few nominations to make and he very clearly cares little about anything beyond color and race.", ">\n\nHow so? These nominations were clearly based on the best person for the job, why do you assume they aren’t qualified just because they aren’t white?", ">\n\nBecause its easier to think that.", ">\n\nDoes diverse also mean qualified?", ">\n\nYes, it actually does. Over 83% of Biden nominees were rated \"Well Qualified\" vs just over 68% of Trump's. For reference, the ABA ratings for the Biden Administration:\n\nAs of December 1, 2022, the ABA had offered ratings for 132 of President Joe Biden's (D) nominees. The ABA rated 110 of those nominees well qualified, 20 nominees qualified, and two nominees as qualified and well qualified. \n\nThis compares with Trump:\n\nAs of February 3, 2020, the American Bar Association (ABA) had rated 220 of Trump's nominees. Of these nominees, 150 were rated \"well-qualified,\" 61 were rated \"qualified,\" and 9 were rated \"not qualified.\" [emphasis: mine]", ">\n\n\n”9 were rated “not qualified.”\n\nAnd now at least one of those unqualified nominees has a seat on the Supreme Court.", ">\n\nIndeed.", ">\n\nThe real issues /s", ">\n\nDon’t care, are they qualified .", ">\n\nWhat an annoying article title", ">\n\nHey, who says the backgrounds of Republican judges aren't diverse? They nominated not just former prosecutors, but also attorneys for corporate polluters AND christian dominionists from religious law schools!", ">\n\nIt’s doesn’t matter if they’d diverse, only thing that matters is they are fit for the position and care about upholding the laws and rights of people. This world is so backwards.", ">\n\nMaybe just appoint nice people, who are qualified. Focusing on race is boring and dumb.", ">\n\n\"Diverse\" is not important. Smart, educated, and qualified are.", ">\n\nHaving diverse experiences is in the interest of the Judiciary branch.", ">\n\nDiverse skin colors does not necessarily equal diverse life experiences.", ">\n\nHow Naive.", ">\n\nAnd?", ">\n\nSo he picked out names out of a list. This is not much of an accomplishment.", ">\n\nI'm really curious how average age has changed over the last 15 years.", ">\n\nthank goodness", ">\n\nCan't tell if Obama had his hands tied due to bonkers overzealous scrutiny/harassment and the weight of all black representation on his shoulders, or if Obama was just not actually that cool of a person as he was supposed to be.\nMaybe a little bit of both.", ">\n\nAt this rate, Biden may overshadow obama’s legacy. He is getting more done in 3 years than Obama did in 8 years", ">\n\nDiverse as in Muslim, Asian, Black, Latino, and gay or?", ">\n\nẞdb", ">\n\nBiden preserves normalcy and Constitutional integrity.", ">\n\nDiversity means nothing if their politics are shit. It’s like having diverse Nazi guards.", ">\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse. Clarence Thomas is \"diverse\" and an asshole. I want honest, impartial judges of any color, gender, etc.", ">\n\n\nI couldn't care less about diverse.\n\nYou don't say?", ">\n\nSo how do you know they are not also very qualified? Minorities and POCs can also be worthy of positions such as these \nDo you just assume “diverse” = not worthy. Why do you have that instant judgment?\nAnd you call others racist lol", ">\n\nWell I sure as hell hope they have qualifications other than skin color. The fact that their pigmentation IS considered a qualification is racist. Attacking me doesn’t change that friend.", ">\n\nI think the media is forcing that down your throat. That the skin colour is a bonus.\nFact is the pigment of their skin now ISNT being held against their qualifications.", ">\n\nPolitics are dumb", ">\n\nCrazy to think Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't be where she is right now if she was a different skin color.", ">\n\nHe is good at spending other people money too", ">\n\nWho's money is he spending and on what exactly?\nWhat's he doing different than every other President?", ">\n\nWell good for dementia joe", ">\n\nSo diversity is somehow more important than qualifications now?", ">\n\nWhy even question… followed by a racism accusation is a great playbook for authoritarian regimes. You should question everyone nominated. As I do", ">\n\nThis just in, the world is more progressive than it was 14 years ago. Wow!", ">\n\nSo", ">\n\nIs he still outpacing trump for most days off or does the left leaning msm not want to talk about that.", ">\n\nWhat about the economy? Jobs? Housing market? Cost of living? Quality of life? Value of the dollar? Strengthening family values? \nTHE IMPORTANT THINGS! having diverse people in places that sure…may have not been historically diverse, doesn’t mean any of these people are truly qualified. Or that they will not act upon their own bias, when many decisions need to be made without bias.\nThere is a reason Justice is depicted blind folded. Because Justice is blind and only cares about the facts.", ">\n\nNow all we need is merit and skills to match", ">\n\nAny of those judges progressive or all of them just conservative neolibs like Biden?", ">\n\nBiden showing more diversity than the overt white supremacist that preceded him. Slow news day, AP News?", ">\n\nPriorities.", ">\n\nBut not where it matters soooo", ">\n\nSo end affimative action then?", ">\n\nJumbo Joe looks like he’s about to risk it all in this pic", ">\n\nYeah thank God they left out the tender bits cause ya know they ain't having no drawers" ]
Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.
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> Call me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds." ]
> I'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like." ]
> He don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen" ]
> Ya at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch." ]
> Yea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life. OR: He gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea… Edit: Bonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?" ]
> Treason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL." ]
> You're correct. He can be tried for seditious conspiracy.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe." ]
> Whatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy." ]
> In what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time." ]
> Same. Though I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion." ]
> I told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words "Here lies"
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock." ]
> I'll take followed by "was led away in handcuffs" as a reasonable alternative.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"" ]
> Promise?
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative." ]
> He's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?" ]
> Yeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far." ]
> There's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours. Justice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff." ]
> Yeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets." ]
> Quoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit. Which countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats." ]
> Thanks, you saved me a lot of typing
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit." ]
> Two weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing" ]
> Bummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor." ]
> Call me when he is in prison.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!" ]
> Came here to say the same thing. It keeps getting "worse" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison." ]