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Even on a frozen planet, H2O would be much more abundant than CO2, and H2O also absorbs a much wider spectrum of LW radiation.
misrepresentation
2.3.4
CARDS
Carbon dioxide has continued to rise, while global temperatures appear to have stopped rising in 1998 having stabilized below the 1998 level and might even now be starting to fall.
cherry picking
1.4
CARDS
“What we don’t hear from her is that fewer people will die from cold.”
oversimplification
3.6
Alhindi_train
What all these papers argue in their different ways is that the alarmist version of global warming aka Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) is a fake artefact.
ad hominem
5.2
jintrain
Get that my fellow Skeptics? CO2 causes Global Cooling. This is the high ground this is the ground from which we should be fighting, not in the swamps of positive and negative feed backs.
misrepresentation
2.3
CARDS
“CO2 is certainly a heat-trapping greenhouse gas, but hardly the primary one: Water vapor accounts for about 95 percent of greenhouse gases. By contrast, carbon dioxide is only a trace component in the atmosphere: about 400 ppm (parts per million), or 0.04 percent.”
misrepresentation
2.3.4
Alhindi_train
Climate change is a natural Earth cycle.It was going on when man was still living in caves.
single cause
2.1.4
hamburg_test3
“Whereas in 2008 most of the ice was extremely thin, this year most has been at least two metres thick.”
cherry picking
1.1.3
Alhindi_train
That's certainly interesting, but hardly earth-shaking. Ice cores and fossil pollen show the earth has had six major global warmings since the last Ice Age, interspersed with centuries-long cold periods. The earth's temperatures are always cycling up and down.
single cause
2.1.4
CARDS
It is now six months since I reported on what even environmentalists are calling "the biggest environmental scandal in history". Indeed this is a scam so glaringly bizarre that even the UN and the EU have belatedly announced that they are thinking of taking steps to stop it. The essence of the scam is that a handful of Chinese and Indian firms are deliberately producing large quantities of an incredibly powerful "greenhouse gas" which we in the West - including UK taxpayers - then pay them billions of dollars to destroy.
conspiracy theory
5.3.1
CARDS
In 2012, Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter, "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing noncompetitive."
conspiracy theory
5.3
jintrain
Andy Dessler's study will not stand hard scrutiny. COP16 delegates worried about the ongoing credibility problems of climate modeling will find no solace in Dessler's work.
ad hominem
5.1
CARDS
The world's climate scientists are almost all employed by western governments. They usually don't pay you to do climate research unless you say you believe manmade global warming is dangerous, and it has been that way for more than 20 years. The result is a near-unanimity that is unusual for a theory in such an immature science.
ad hominem
5.2.5
CARDS
Climate change or global warming is nothing more than a hox and another form to control the populas. We do ultimately have a pollution problem and need to take care of it. But there is no global warming. There never has been.
conspiracy theory
5.3
hamburg_test2
for every extra person who dies from heat, 2 are saved from dying of cold i.e. net saving of a life: Global warming is good for mankind. Global cooling would kill more people from cold than saved from heat.
oversimplification
3.6
hamburg_test3
We are here blaming climate change on human activities alone and disregarding that our position on the milky way Galaxy affects our experience on our solar system.
single cause
2.1.1
hamburg_test1
Greenland announces that a major ice sheet is growing....darn climate change!
cherry picking
1.1.2
hamburg_test3
As we both know or should know carbon dioxide is plant food. Other nutrients are needed, but CO2 is a plant's only food, it cannot survive without it.
oversimplification
3.3.1
CARDS
We should not let a deal subject to the whims of future administrations or Congresses hang like a wet blanket over our economy - driving up energy prices, devastating our industrial base and bolstering our rivals.
slothful induction
4.1.1
jindev
It has warned .5 degrees in the last thousand years.
false equivalence
3.4
hamburg_test3
In the geological past, Earth’s atmosphere had hundreds of times the CO2 content of the modern atmosphere yet there were no carbon dioxide-driven catastrophes. The past shows that climate change is normal, that warmer times and more atmospheric carbon dioxide have driven biodiversity and that cold times kill.
false equivalence
2.1.4
Alhindi_train
To demonstrate to yourself that the ABC is completely biased, in particular on climate change, all you need to do is go to the ABC web site here , get yourself a stiff drink (because believe me, youll need it) and watch the debate that followed the screening of the film The Great Global Warming Swindle. The audience was partisan and biased, just as alleged by Senator Eric Abetz:
ad hominem
5.2.2
CARDS
Moreover, its warming impact decreases sharply after the first 20 or 30 ppm.
oversimplification
2.3.2
Alhindi_train
We scientists have known since 1896 that increased carbon dioxide has a greatly diminished effect on temperature. At today's carbon dioxide concentration only a tiny effect can ensue even if the concentration doubles.
oversimplification
2.3.2
CARDS
Then theres the issue of sea level change. Global warming and climate change are usually thought to mean that world sea levels will rise, perhaps disastrously. But according to US government scientific experts, in recent times (2010 and 2011, to be precise) phenomena driven by human carbon emissions have actually caused world sea levels to fall. According to a statement issued by the US National Science Foundation: For an 18-month period beginning in 2010, the oceans mysteriously dropped by about seven millimeters. (3)
cherry picking
1.6
CARDS
The NDP Party wants to land grab and Unionize us also
ad hominem
4.1.5
hamburg_test3
Why would you listen to a consistently wrong UN?
ad hominem
5.2.3
hamburg_test3
There have now been several major ice core surveys, and everyone of them says the same thing. CO2 clearly does not cause temperature changes, it follows temperature changes.
false choice
2.3.3
CARDS
In other words, increasing atmospheric CO2 is not causing global temperature to rise; instead the natural cyclic increase in global temperature is causing global CO2 to rise.
false choice
2.3.3
CARDS
You need to point that temperatures have increased by a mere 1.5 degrees over the last 150 years and have stabilised this century.
slothful induction
3.4
hamburg_test3
This attribution error evokes one of Mr. Koonin'rare rebukes : "Pointing to hurricanes as an example of the ravages of human-caused climate change is at best unconvincing , and at worst plainly dishonest."
ad hominem
5.2
jintrain
All along the public was told the reason for rising temperatures was a result of the increase in global carbon emissions. Yet carbon emissions continue to rise, while temperatures do not.
single cause
2.3.3
CARDS
So it's going to be what it was like 500 + years ago. Whilst climate change is a thing. It's just the earth doing a cycle. In a 500 years we will have global cooling.
single cause
2.1.4
hamburg_test3
“[CO2] is also a greenhouse gas which helps maintain earth at a habitable temperature.”
slothful induction
3
Alhindi_train
Same junk 50 years ago and Miami is still here.
impossible expectations
1.6
hamburg_test3
2000s Me: "Hey thats weird that Planes are checkerboarding the Sky, noone finds this strange?"MSM: Conspiracy theorist Nut!! MSM 2022: Of Course they spray us with chemicals and seed clouds for rain, lol duh - they HAVE TO to save the world from Climate Change you monster!!
conspiracy theory
5.3
hamburg_test1
A Dormant Sun: In February, TWTW reported a study from the Pulkovo Observatory in Russia stating that if the current solar cycle pattern continues, with little solar activity, the globe may experience a new Little Ice Age.
slothful induction
1.2
CARDS
But like most claims regarding global warming, the real effect is small, probably temporary, and most likely due to natural weather patterns.
single cause
1.7
jintest
Global warming activists do not extend the record back any further, they say, because it has only been since the late 1800s that we have had a global network of mercury thermometers.
ad hominem
5.1.3
jintrain
Professor emeritus of biogeography Philip Stott of the University of London explained the crux of the entire global warming debate when he rebutted the notion that CO2 is the main climate driver.
fake experts
2.3
CARDS
Well, I just read a study that showed that the climate hasn't warmed in 15 years globally.
cherry picking
1.4
hamburg_test3
Water vapor in the Earths atmosphere is a primary factor affecting climate long term and weather short term.
misrepresentation
2.3.4
CARDS
Climate Crisis? Ever Fewer People Dying Of Climate Disasters. There's Hype, And There's Reality
oversimplification
3.6
hamburg_test3
The little extra Co2 has made the planet green and more would increase crop yields and feed more peopleCo2 is Plant food. Simple
oversimplification
3.3.1
hamburg_test3
Haven't Global Temperatures Risen Before? Yes. In the longer term, say hundreds to thousands of years, there is considerable indirect, proxy evidence (not from thermometers) of both warming and cooling. Since humankind can't be responsible for these early events, this is evidence that nature can cause warming and cooling. If that is the case, it then opens up the possibility that some (or most) of the warming in the last 50 years has been natural, too.
single cause
2.1.4
CARDS
As you can see, only in the driest desert on earth will increasing CO2 increase the back radiation. Water vapor is by far the strongest greenhouse gas, but it is nearly saturated at 10% humidity. At 10% humidity and above, no amount of CO2 does anything. Most of the humidity on earth is in that area on the right where doubling CO2 will do nothing to increase the long-wave radiation from the sky. Yet another CAGW fail.
misrepresentation
2.3.4
CARDS
"The western media is hijacking the conversation around climate change‚" writes @LouDelBello in this thread.
ad hominem
5.2.2
hamburg_test3
The annual trend of the departures as shown below indicates a flat or slightly cooling trend, and not global warming at all. Yes they fluctuate but that does not mean the trend is warming.
slothful induction
1.2
CARDS
France has had the coldest April since 1947 Yet Macron vows to get France out of oil, gas, and coal while Paris freezes.
anecdote
1.3
hamburg_test2
The fact is that any supposed damage caused by human driven climate change is being massively over exaggerated to further agendas and line pockets. Humanity has far more serious threats facing it.
conspiracy theory
5.3.2
hamburg_test1
The coalition alleged that the method used to collect national temperature records, which show a national warming trend of almost one degree Celsius in the past century, almost 50 per cent above the global average, had been unscientific. That had created an unrealistic and unreliable indication of climate warming, it said.
ad hominem
5.1.3
CARDS
“The IPCC reports also don’t fully account for the albedo effect (less ice means less reflected and more absorbed sunlight, hence more warming); more cloud cover (which traps heat); or the dieback of forests and other flora (which extract carbon from the atmosphere). Each of these promises to accelerate warming”
misrepresentation
5.2.5
Alhindi_train
However, since actual CO2 production is already below IPCC forecasts, we might take a more reasonable date of 2080-2100 for a doubling to 560. And, combining this with our derived sensitivity of 1C (rather than RealClimate's 3C) we will get 0.5C more warming in the next 75-100 years. This is about the magnitude of warming we experienced in the last century, and most of us did not even notice.
slothful induction
3.1
CARDS
Climate change is the new religion used to control and tax the masses.
conspiracy theory
5.3.1
hamburg_test3
Sea level is not rising appreciably in California. The global warming industry is reduced to nothing but fantasy.
cherry picking
1.6
CARDS
There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for the global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution.
fake experts
5.1.1
CARDS
Yet another bitterly cold, snowy winter is destroying alarmist global warming claims, proving once again that over-the-top global warming predictions are proving no more scientifically credible than snake oil.
anecdote
1.3
CARDS
The tiny effect of rising CO2 levels on climate contrasts sharply with their enormous benefits to plant growth and agriculture. Not only is more CO2 greening deserts, forests and grasslands; it is increasing grain and food yields worldwide, and helping people in developing nations live longer, healthier lives.
oversimplification
3.3.1
CARDS
The new snowfall brought the depth of accumulated snow to 65 centimetres (26 inches), setting an all-time record for April.
anecdote
1.3
CARDS
While the mass media, Al Gore and politicized bodies like the IPCC scaremonger about the perils of global warming and demand the poor and middle class pay CO2 taxes, both hard scientific data and circumstantial evidence points to a clear cooling trend.
ad hominem
5.2.2
CARDS
Climate change is bs. It's made up propaganda. Models are bought and paid for by commies wanting to redistribute wealth. Rich get richer poor get poorer.
conspiracy theory
5.3.2
hamburg_test1
Second, all mainstream climate models predict a hotspot, a warming in the upper troposphere (about 10 km or 6 miles up, in the tropics) caused by an ascending water vapor emissions layer, during periods of warming such as the 1980s and 1990s. This is crucial, because two thirds of their predicted warming is from water vapor; only one third is directly due to increasing carbon dioxide. So no hotspot means not much cause for alarm. Our only suitable instruments for detecting the hotspot are weather balloonsthirty million of them since the 1950s, released from hundreds of locations, twice a day. They show no hotspot, and indicate that the water vapor emissions layer descended slightly instead. Satellites are unsuitable because they intrinsically aggregate information from several vertical kilometers into each data point, but the predicted ascent is only tens of meters.
misrepresentation
2.3.5
CARDS
mann fixed his hockey stick numbers
ad hominem
5.1.2
hamburg_test3
Plymouth Rock still at sea level 600 years later…
anecdote
1.6
hamburg_test3
Carbon dioxide, a trace gas absolutely essential for human and other life, is currently four one-hundredths of 1 percent of the atmosphere.
misrepresentation
2.3.1
CARDS
The simple fact is, humans know very little about the climate cycles of our world.
slothful induction
5.1
jintrain
The Democrats' superstar witness was renowned climatologist Al Gore, who had earned a C and a D in the only science courses he took in college.
ad hominem
5.2
CARDS
a study that totally debunks the whole concept of man-made Global Warming,
fake experts
5.1.1
Alhindi_train
I can’t imagine how uniquely obtuse one must be to believe the bovine excrement of climate change.
ad hominem
5.2
hamburg_test1
at the end of recent ice ages, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere started to rise only after temperatures began to climb.
false choice
2.3.3
Alhindi_dev
You global Marxists are using the very crisis your ideology created to nudge, shove & control humanity.
conspiracy theory
5.3
hamburg_test2
Global warming bah humbug - IR act won't do much about it but Maybe the "Let er Rip" disease fighting policy will eventually have an impact. Thanos was right
impossible expectations
4.2.3
hamburg_test3
Whitehouse said the massive fall in temperatures following the end of El Nino meant the warming hiatus or slowdown may be coming back.
cherry picking
1.4
jintrain
On a global scale , as scientists keep confirming, there has been no increase in frequency or intensity of storms, floods or droughts
cherry picking
1.7
jintrain
Damn so there was global warming in 61.
single cause
1.7
hamburg_test3
The US Midwest is having its coolest summer, after its second coldest winter on record. During the winter of 1932, the average temperature was above freezing.
anecdote
1.3
CARDS
Below 150 ppm, 99% of life on Earth goes extinct. Earth is CO2 starved.
oversimplification
3.3.1
hamburg_test3
The rate of sea-level rise has not accelerated .
slothful induction
1.6
jintrain
The first rule of climate change fanaticism is that no story is ever considered too outlandish or preposterous for purposes of public consumption.
ad hominem
5.2
hamburg_test2
Climate always changes. Take the little Ice Age. Vikings had to abandon Greenland. Now things are warming up. We need to destroy the Sun to prevent climate change.
single cause
2.1.4
hamburg_test1
In the past, the atmospheric carbon dioxide content has been orders of magnitude higher than now, yet there were ice ages.
single cause
2.1.4
jintrain
Saying electric vehicles are better for the environment is like saying vaping is better than cigarettes. It's somewhat true but just replaces one bad habit with another.
false equivalence
4.4.1
hamburg_test3
December 2010 is "almost certain" to be the coldest since records began in 1910, according to the Met Office. The Independent, 18 December 2010
anecdote
1.3
CARDS
But-but-but-but Alexandria Ocasio-Crazy told me we only have 12 years!
misrepresentation
5.2.3
Alhindi_test
I note particularly that sea-level rise is not affected by the warming; it continues at the same rate, 1.8 millimeters a year, according to a 1990 review by Andrew S. Trupin and John Wahr.
slothful induction
1.6
Alhindi_train
The highest record temperature ever reported was 136 degrees Fahrenheit in Libya in 1922. The record high temperature for the United States was 134 degrees Fahrenheit in Death Valley, California in 1913. Fossil fuel emissions in 1913 and 1922 were negligible compared to today.
single cause
1.7
jintrain
Carbon dioxide gas is NOT a pollutant, but a harmless and vital gas which trees and plants fix by the process of photosynthesis and liberate oxygen to the atmosphere. We humans and all animals need this oxygen to breath and survive.
oversimplification
3.3.1
CARDS
Carbon dioxide is a trace gas in the atmosphere.
misrepresentation
2.3.1
Alhindi_dev
Coral Reefs Unharmed by Anthropogenic Global Warming, Major New Study Shows
cherry picking
3.2.3
hamburg_test3
Levels of CO2 far beyond what we will ever be able to achieve in the ambient atmosphere are highly beneficial for plant growth, which is why most commercial greenhouses use CO2 generators to keep CO2 at 3x to 4x ambient levels, at significant expense. They spend the money to keep CO2 levels high because that dramatically improves productivity.
oversimplification
3.3.1
CARDS
Climate change has not been proven it can't.
impossible expectations
5.1.1
hamburg_test3
How Chretien, as the leader of a large, cold, northern, oil-exporting country, could have committed Canada to an emissions treaty that excluded the U.S. and required nothing of China, defies explanation to this day.
impossible expectations
4.2.6
CARDS
A carbon tax, whether imposed by the United States unilaterally or by the industrialized world, would have virtually no effect on temperatures over the course of this century.
impossible expectations
4.2.3
CARDS
A climate economics approach finds that today, contrary to the alarmists massive insistence on negatives-only stories, global warming causes about as much damage as benefits.
misrepresentation
3
jintrain
When you figure out how to regulate the Sun, we can discuss reversing climate change that's been going on for millions of years.
single cause
2.1.4
hamburg_test2
A new paper finds that over the past decade the global average effective cloud height has declined and that If sustained, such a decrease would indicate a significant measure of negative cloud feedback to global warming.
cherry picking
3.1
CARDS
Just like Dr Mann's "hockey stick" graph he had cut off the tree-ring data just at the point where it stopped showing an upward trend and swapped in thermometer temperatures for recent decades, making them look much warmer.
ad hominem
5.1.2
jintrain
There are far bigger problems to worry about than climate change
false choice
3.4
hamburg_test3
We dont really know how clouds are formed. Water vapour impacts the climate more than any other gas.
misrepresentation
2.3.4
CARDS
This debate as I argue at some length in Watermelons was always about left-wing ideology, quasi-religious hysteria, and follow the money corruption, never about "science."
ad hominem
5.2
jintrain