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Actually , I saw a uh a woman at the bus stop the other day who , um , was talking on her cell phone speaking Japanese , and was bowing. you know , profusely.

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Oh , yeah , that 's really common.

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Yeah.

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Yeah Yeah.

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Just , kept

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Yeah.

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Ah.

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Wow.

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It 's very difficult if you try while you 're trying , say , to convince somebody on the phone it 's difficult not to move your hands. Not You know , if you watch people they 'll actually do these things.

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Mm - hmm ?

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So. I still think we should try a a meeting or two with the blindfolds , at least of this meeting that we have lots of recordings of

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Mm - hmm.

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Um , maybe for part of the meeting , we don't have to do it the whole meeting.

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Yeah , I think th I think it 's a great idea.

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That could be fun. It 'll be too hard to make barriers , I was thinking because they have to go all the way

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W Yeah.

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you know , I can see Chuck even if you put a barrier here.

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Well , we could just turn out the lights.

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Actually well also I I can say I made barr barriers for so that the stuff I was doing with Collin wha which just used , um this kind of foam board.

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Y Yeah ?

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R really inexpensive. You can you can masking tape it together , these are you know , pretty l large partitions.

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Yeah.

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But then we also have these mikes , is the other thing I was thinking , so we need a barrier that doesn't disturb the sound ,

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It 's true , it would disturb the , um the the long - range

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The acoustics.

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um

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Blindfolds would be good.

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it would

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I think , blindfolds.

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I mean , it sounds weird but but you know it 's it 's cheap and , uh Be interesting to have the camera going.

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Probably we should wait until after Adam 's set up the mikes , But.

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OK. I think we 're going to have to work on the , uh on the human subjects form.

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I 'll be peeking.

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Yeah , that 's right , we didn't tell them we would be blindfolding.

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That 's

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" Do you mind being blindfolded while you 're interviewed ? "

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that 's that 's that 's the one that we videotape. So. Um , I I wanna move this along. Uh I did have this other agenda item which is , uh @ @ it 's uh a list which I sent to uh a couple folks , but um I wanted to get broader input on it , So this is the things that I think we did in the last three months obviously not everything we did but but sort of highlights that I can can tell s some outside person , you know , what what were you actually working on. Um in no particular order uh , one , uh , ten more hours of meeting r meetings recorded , something like that , you know from from , uh three months ago. Uh XML formats and other transcription aspects sorted out and uh sent to IBM. Um , pilot data put together and sent to IBM for transcription , uh next batch of recorded data put together on the CD - ROMs for shipment to IBM ,

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Hasn't been sent yet , but It 's getting ready.

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But yeah , that 's why I phrased it that way , yeah OK. Um human subjects approval on campus , uh and release forms worked out so the meeting participants have a chance to request audio pixelization of selected parts of the spee their speech. Um audio pixelization software written and tested. Um preliminary analysis of overlaps in the pilot data we have transcribed , and exploratory analysis of long - distance inferences for topic coherence , that was I was wasn't sure if those were the right way that was the right way to describe that because of that little exercise that that you and and Lokendra did.

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What was that called ?

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I well , I I 'm probably saying this wrong , but what I said was exploratory analysis of long - distance inferences for topic coherence.

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The , uh say again ?

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Something like that. Um so , uh I a lot of that was from , you know , what what what you two were doing so I I sent it to you , and you know , please mail me , you know , the corrections or suggestions for changing

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Mm - hmm.

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I I don't want to make this twice it 's length but but you know , just im improve it. Um Is there anything anybody

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I I did a bunch of stuff for supporting of digits.

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" Bunch of stuff for s " OK , maybe maybe send me a sentence that 's a little thought through about that.

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So , OK , I 'll send you a sentence that doesn't just say " a bunch of " ?

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" Bunch of stuff " , yeah , " stuff " is probably bad too ,

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Yep. " Stuff " is not very technical.

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Yeah , well.

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I 'll try to phrase it in passive voice.

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Yeah. Yeah , yeah ,

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Technical stuff.

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" range of things " , yeah. Um and and you know , I sort of threw in what you did with what Jane did on in under the , uh uh preliminary analysis of overlaps. Uh uh Thilo , can you tell us about all the work you 've done on this project in the last , uh last three months ?

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Yeah.

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So what is what Um. Not really.

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That 's

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It 's too complicated.

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Um , I didn't get it. Wh - what is " audio pixelization " ?

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Uh , audio pix wh he did it , so why don't you explain it quickly ?

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It 's just , uh beeping out parts that you don't want included in the meeting so , you know you can say things like , " Well , this should probably not be on the record , but beep "

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OK , OK. I got that.

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Yeah. We we we spent a a a fair amount of time early on just talk dealing with this issue about op w e e we realized , " well , people are speaking in an impromptu way and they might say something that would embarrass them or others later " , and , how do you get around that

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OK.

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so in the consent form it says , well you we will look at the transcripts later and if there 's something that you 're unhappy with , yeah.

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OK , and you can say OK.

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But you don't want to just totally excise it because um uh , well you have to be careful about excising it , how how you excise it keeping the timing right and so forth so that at the moment tho th the idea we 're running with is is h putting the beep over it.

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OK.

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Yeah , you can either beep or it can be silence. I I couldn't decide. which was the right way to do it.

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Ah , yeah.

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Beep is good auditorily ,

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Yeah.

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if someone is listening to it , there 's no mistake that it 's been beeped out ,

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Yeah.

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but for software it 's probably better for it to be silence.

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No , no. You can you know , you could make a m as long as you keep using the same beep , people could make a model of that beep ,

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Hmm.

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and

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I like that idea.

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Yep. And I use it 's it 's , uh it 's an A below middle C beep ,

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I think the beep is a really good idea.

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Yeah.

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It 's very clear. Then you don't think it 's a long pause.

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Also

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Yeah , it 's more obvious that there was something there than if there 's just silence.

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so

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah , that I mean , he 's he 's removing the old thing

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Yeah

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and and and

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Yep.

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Yea - right. Right. But I mean if you just replaced it with silence , it 's not clear whether that 's really silence or

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Yeah , it 's not

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah , I agree.

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Yeah.

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