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Yeah.
But,
I think she has problems with that, too.
Uh-huh.
Well, when you have kids, will you work?
Do you work now?
I don't know
that's something I've considered. Uh,
Uh-huh.
I always kind of think it would be neat to be able to watch them and be there for them all the time.
Uh-huh.
Is that what you do?
Uh, yeah.
Actually, I teach my kids at home,
so I'm here all the time.
Oh, so they don't go to school.
Is it like, uh,
oh, what's that called,
it's, uh, correspondence school,
they do it at home.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
yeah.
That's interesting.
So,
Do you have to have any special training?
Not,
it depends on the state you live actually.
Some laws absolutely prohibit it.
Some states, uh, say that you have to be a certified teacher in order to do that.
Our state doesn't yet, say that
and I'm not a certified teacher.
I went to college,
but I, you know, but my kids are only elementary grades, levels right now
and so,
So they haven't been to public schools at all.
One of them was for a couple of years
and so, you know, my oldest, he was,
and then my youngest two have never been.
Um.
So anyway,
but we don't,
So, you've never had,
Well, uh, does the company you work for test for drugs?
Actually, uh, they just recently started a policy of testing drugs, which was kind of interesting,
because when I went to work for them, uh, they didn't do that,
but, uh, since then they've, they've started a drug testing policy, not because of their own, uh, convictions, but because the clients of our company are requests that we do that.
Huh.
How about you?
Uh, no,
we're not being tested for drugs at all, uh,
our policies and procedures manual, uh, the furthest it goes about drugs is in the, kind of the miscellaneous section, or it's reasons for immediate dismissal,
Uh-huh.
it says, use of narcotics on company premises.
Um.
So that's pretty general,
but, uh, I work for an environmental management firm
Okay.
and I'm an engineer there,
but I do go on a lot of hazardous waste sites,
but I don't operate any machinery.
Yeah.
Now, people for our company that do operate machinery like drill rigs and things like that are under a, a medical monitoring program,
Uh-huh.
because they're at a higher risk of exposure
and blood screening is part of that
and I, I think that drugs,
they do test for drugs in that capacity,
but it's not their exclusive,
it's just part, it's just something that turns up in the other parameters that they test for.
Yeah.
But I think it's got a little more relevance since they are around dangerous equipment and things like that and do have to exercise some quick judgment in the field.
What is the nature of your company's business?
Well, it's actually, uh,
we do oil well services.
So, a lot of our clients are oil companies, big oil companies,
and they go out to,
we have engineers who, uh, go out to the oil well, to the, to the client's oil well, and, and work with a lot of heavy equipment and put tools down the oil well and stuff,
so the clients are very concerned that, you know, the engineers who go out there are adhering to their drug policy, because they're on their, their, you know, territory and everything,
but the thing that's interesting is that I I'm an engineer and, a software engineer
Um.
and I work in the software, uh, house,
and everybody there, you know, are all software engineers.
They've never, you know, they never go out to the, the oil rigs or anything,
and yet, we're getting, we're subjected to this policy, you know, the same one that, uh, all the engineers have to, to,
well, a little different, actually,
but, uh, you know, we have to go through the same thing,
and it's, but it's, uh, it's a little different, I guess than than a lot of drug policies.
In our case, it's like, when you hire on, they'll test you,
and then if you get injured on the job, if you like trip and fall or something, uh, they give you a drug test right away.
Oh, really?
Other than that they don't have random testing or anything like that,
but, a lot of people were really upset with the policy at first.
Particularly, like uh, we have a lot of parties and stuff where they serve alcohol,
and they didn't find any problem with that, you know,
but,
Right.
Uh,
We, that's been an, a, an issue, uh, in our company even though we don't have the random or even regular drug screening.
they'll have these little parties,