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layer three is sort of the home base for location three | 2 | LOC3 |
personal love anger jealously and other emotions are a regular occurrence in their lives with two very notable differences | 0 | LOC1 |
location 2s form of nonduality | 1 | LOC2 |
three that comes from personal emotions at layer three um | 2 | LOC3 |
location three layer three | 2 | LOC3 |
god without it feeling divine | 1 | LOC2 |
the advantage is location three feels fantastic and a lot of deconditioning can happen there that is kind of special in a way to location three because of the absence of personal emotion and yet the presence of such a all comprehensive love and all of that and so that can have a very profound healing effect on conditioning that is otherwise more difficult to take care of so yeah there are definitely benefits of location three in and of itself | 2 | LOC3 |
location four layer four is great if youre already independently wealthy and you can just you know go and be location four without a worry in the world | 3 | LOC4 |
from a purely nondual sense and location | 1 | LOC2 |
merging | 2 | LOC3 |
so lets see okay so for example im looking at the computer screen so the nonduality like the location to nonduality | 1 | LOC2 |
still have a full range of emotions | 0 | LOC1 |
better than location four layer four just based on ive heard that you know location for layer four is not terribly associated with go getter type of attitudes no matter the piece or anything | 3 | LOC4 |
assuming that even experienced glimpses of it which i can barely remember and maybe i have it feels intuitively that location for allows for a more clear perception | 3 | LOC4 |
joy and happiness | 2 | LOC3 |
and a sense of separation possibly creeps in you know in the middle of the city its hard to say its not as intense i still do feel connected but not to the intensity as when im with the trees | 1 | LOC2 |
location 3 only one dominant emotion is experienced | 2 | LOC3 |
but that person also had the access still had access to location one | 0 | LOC1 |
there was definitely that sense of the thing that knows the thing that happens things happen to even like the physical sense of sort of like that not a presence behind the eyes | 1 | LOC2 |
compassion | 2 | LOC3 |
it does come and go but say you like out in the trees probably once a month so thats when its at its peak aw yeah yeah i even felt that in the city actually on the full moon because i went out in the night and rode my bike around the city for 3 or 4 hours and enjoyed the moon over the water | 1 | LOC2 |
can not be able to move parts of their body | 4 | LOC5+ |
something that unfolds | 3 | LOC4 |
total range of emotion | 0 | LOC1 |
i have very little emotion now apart from you know just a lightness um dont really get angry even if i if something upsets me its over almost before it starts um i dont really get attached to anything ive lost a lot of sense of memory or worrying about the past or think about the future im much more in the moment um and id be tempted to say location too except i dont have that nondual aspect i dont feel like ive got that i dont feel that theres someone here really i know that theres no one here like an individual entity watching but it still seems like theres a center here so if i look back i cant say yeah its its difficult to and i can step away from that as well so i can see it myself arising and i can see whatever else is arising as well so for example when i wake up in the morning there is no me at all its just quite nice very pleasant just sort of feel myself sinking into the body feeling the sensations and then it might be a little while it might be i dont know its probably only minutes but you know then a thought will pop up and then it kind of another thought and it might be about yesterday or tomorrow | 0 | LOC1 |
when living momenttomoment in a place of fundamental wellbeing anything that disturbs it however minor is difficult to miss | 2 | LOC3 |
sense of unity | 2 | LOC3 |
and what youre describing there with that glimmer of agency sounds almost like you might be touching upon you know glimpses of at least of a form of location to um possibly location three but agency essentially doesnt return except in those earlier locations | 2 | LOC3 |
right so much so that like both of our coats smelled like it for a while after a little bit right and and we were and it led to this discussion about frustration and location for right because that experience was absolutely experienced as you know frustration for her and location for at that moment | 3 | LOC4 |
location 2 was the change in subjectobject | 1 | LOC2 |
location three theres a distinct subtle sense | 2 | LOC3 |
love to just be no agency | 3 | LOC4 |
planning and taking action mostly rely on external stimuli to initiate them as there is no internal drive or energy to do so | 3 | LOC4 |
fine just like some is divine some is pan psychic and location three | 2 | LOC3 |
and so the more you experience that in the context of layer two just as you go throughout your life the more you know youre sort of communicating you know lets drive the car half on the curb half on the road kind of thing and so as you go through your day to day life its probably going to remain fairly well rooted in location and location two layer two with that sort of additional stillness being accessible that you can put your attention on | 1 | LOC2 |
when that reaction occurs and there is that contraction in some way inside you or whatever else | 1 | LOC2 |
like this its that centerless field its still all pervading all present | 1 | LOC2 |
sense of union dual and nondual | 2 | LOC3 |
ive still probably because of you know heavy conditioning with with that ive prioritized you know as of the past couple of years you know so im you know have conditioned in addition to this you know a lot of fear based layer early layer one | 1 | LOC2 |
them in | 1 | LOC2 |
people are divinity | 2 | LOC3 |
again and make it a way just to pick on her because she we dont have to worry about anonymity of her data since shes with the project and talks about this stuff with people or whatever else but shes a good example of that you know since shes come back from later locations these visual perception things remain with her | 4 | LOC5+ |
you can just play with it for a bit and see like add it as something you can use for deconditioning and then spend the next session really deepening into the location three type direction of layer three and see if you can make that switch | 2 | LOC3 |
persistent form of peace | 3 | LOC4 |
the remaining vestiges of narrativeself related thought can be completely gone by this point along with any experience of emotion | 3 | LOC4 |
devoid of negative emotion | 2 | LOC3 |
finders emotional content varies despite their reduced charge in location 1 memories still have a mix of positive and negative emotions associated with them | 0 | LOC1 |
location 3 a sense of deep connectedness and union enter the picture | 2 | LOC3 |
of participants experience though they | 0 | LOC1 |
sense of freedom is unmatched by anything that comes before it | 3 | LOC4 |
obviously more union with god is better within a worldview that is seeking it so it is not surprising that they would value this location more highly than earlier or later ones | 2 | LOC3 |
central locus of perception which they often | 1 | LOC2 |
freedom is a bigger container than love | 2 | LOC3 |
a subjectobject split or individuated sense of | 2 | LOC3 |
location four can be brutal and layer two | 3 | LOC4 |
um and up to date location nine | 4 | LOC5+ |
joy and love | 2 | LOC3 |
reported were gone | 3 | LOC4 |
nondual | 1 | LOC2 |
experience is divine love | 2 | LOC3 |
many of the positive traits and types of human experience | 2 | LOC3 |
conditioning around my family | 1 | LOC2 |
makes them even less reactive | 1 | LOC2 |
further in locations | 4 | LOC5+ |
dont think ive had emotions for a very long time i do remember early in physical life where there were waves and peaks and valleys of of but i would describe as energy fluctuations and that seems very distant and when i try to recall when i tried to get there right when i try to place myself there its not easy access um and it feels like im watching that from far far far far far away and it doesnt trigger any bodily physiological responses | 2 | LOC3 |
its kind of like its always there regardless of the type of nonduality | 1 | LOC2 |
see objects | 1 | LOC2 |
part of whats going on with the tibetan buddhist stuff is like trying to prime you to go in the direction of that without losing the motivation that you carry with you from you know like basically from location three | 2 | LOC3 |
this is a complete openness of everything that that that is happening around and just to complete okayness with that and trust that that things are just developing in the way they should and its so less less agency its just its just just happening and its yeah its good to be there yeah | 2 | LOC3 |
to me that would have been an obscure sounding address very recently but based on your work i would say that for the first time in my life hey ive got an address up here it was always general delivery up until this point | 2 | LOC3 |
that that beingness is in some way conscious or you know some people may describe it as intelligent and aware and that conscious beingness is pervading everything | 2 | LOC3 |
help us sort of get a general context of where youre at and i think in some cases youre probably getting glimpses of layer three in location one | 0 | LOC1 |
i think i can create that illusion the illusion that these sensations are distinct and special from the rest of existence and im looking at space and i tell you the main thing why i tend to kind of think i must be in location one because i remember the early descriptions of it | 0 | LOC1 |
i dont know that it was a rising in a way that you would have answered the questions that way during this interview per se but you clearly have a penchant for you know fluidity in general you know and you were able to detect oh wait a minute im getting a little too close in the direction of location four we dont want that you know it sort of you have enough sort of presence to be able to sense that kind of thing and generally thats the kind of thing that comes from someone who is used to having some fluidity you know its kind of a situational awareness if you will within fundamental well being in the same way that ordinary people have a situational awareness in life among different circumstances and stuff like that right and so im sure that theres fluidity here for sure but at least during this interview the way you described things the way you talked about things you know id pin it mostly at location two layer three | 1 | LOC2 |
when it comes to feelings or sensations ive never been good at recognizing how as a system was ever actually feeling so its a very neutral if theres a feeling to it its extremely neutral because ive looked to see whether you know love or those active more active alive kind of qualities to me this seems just very quiet | 1 | LOC2 |
not sacred or not divine | 3 | LOC4 |
location 1 still have a relatively full range of positive and negative emotions | 0 | LOC1 |
location 1 finders often still have conditioning that relates to approval from others | 0 | LOC1 |
sense of divinity | 2 | LOC3 |
like my body is still responding like you know typical male hormonal cycle so ill wake up in the morning and its like my body is is primed that way so you know i can see my body is is there for it and its there if i go if im curious im like i wonder what itd be like to try and think about this you know think about sex and its like okay i can kind of bring that on its still there yeah so i still have access to it im noticing kind of so this is a little bit of an aside but it does fit there was a little bit of an abundance thing i had going on just after transitioning and its really kind of taken on more of an aesthetic flavor and the last little while i dont know how to where to pin it exactly in calendar time but probably in the last month or six weeks or something so this kind of fits with that i even i even had this intuition the other day you know monks and nuns dress a certain way not because that was to enforce behavior or enforce kind of this neutrality but for people who had realized something that would have been an outward expression of more of this celestial kind of quality at least from a you know at least what ive seen of that | 2 | LOC3 |
increasing flatness of perception | 3 | LOC4 |
if the only reason youre doubting it is because it was temporary then it probably just was a temporary experience of location for um its its all you know youre not saying anything that sounds vague or uncertain theres no sense of the divine a sense of self no sense of agency no emotion including no love | 3 | LOC4 |
might not seem true at all in location | 3 | LOC4 |
panpsychist sense | 2 | LOC3 |
kind of merging with it | 2 | LOC3 |
five | 4 | LOC5+ |
pure feeling of of of love | 2 | LOC3 |
behavior is that just loving everybody | 2 | LOC3 |
experiencing the divine | 2 | LOC3 |
love joy | 2 | LOC3 |
i feel more like steadiness and calmness in in location too | 1 | LOC2 |
i dont think youre going to have any issue being a highly experienced divorce attorney in location three | 2 | LOC3 |
appreciable feeling of richness | 3 | LOC4 |
i think what im calling the emotional experience of pure peace would have more spaciousness | 0 | LOC1 |
lead to a form of intolerance | 2 | LOC3 |
layer three of location two and still be very much personally in love with someone | 1 | LOC2 |
that resulted in participants reporting a sense of | 1 | LOC2 |
different types of freedom | 3 | LOC4 |
its very different than layer four location four layer four type of stuff which is more freedom | 3 | LOC4 |
top end of location three | 2 | LOC3 |