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Tormak#6639

12/20/2020 11:45 AM

xD

Mal#5601

12/20/2020 1:50 PM

do it anyway

ComputerK#1764

12/21/2020 4:41 PM

"challenges" chat For people to share their RLBot challenges, with preset bots, rules, etc.

ComputerK#1764

12/21/2020 4:52 PM

Kinda like the story mode missions except there's no reward Actually idk there could be rewards

ComputerK#1764

12/21/2020 4:54 PM

You could also have difficulty ratings as ranks, basically to say the average skill level you'd need to beat the challenge It goes like normal rocket league ranks, bronze, silver, gold, platinum, diamond, etc.

az3#1291

12/21/2020 6:43 PM

You can actually create custom story lines in the existing story mode: https://github.com/RLBot/RLBot/wiki/Rocket-League-Story-Mode#creating-custom-configurations

az3#1291

12/21/2020 6:43 PM

now that we have official scoreboard available, we could add more fields

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 7:57 PM

I'd love to get the community to make custom maps for story mode at some point

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 7:58 PM

if we did have custom maps, it would be... a journey to implement them

ThatOtherNinja#6315

12/22/2020 8:01 PM

Also I don’t think they would work with the epic games version. It would also be tricky to get bots to work with different geometry like that

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:01 PM

Oh sorry, I was mainly picturing customized standard maps

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:01 PM

Just a thematic change of scenery

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:01 PM

that would be awesome, but my point still stands

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:02 PM

it's really up to Psyonix

ThatOtherNinja#6315

12/22/2020 8:02 PM

Ohh that would be a lot easier, still probably wouldn’t work with epic games version

mkhl#6746

12/22/2020 8:02 PM

hm

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:02 PM

Psyonix needs to add better custom map support

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:02 PM

You can always replace an existing map and then load into it. That works just fine on the Epic version

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:02 PM

yeah, but that's still a LOT of work

ThatOtherNinja#6315

12/22/2020 8:02 PM

Huh, I didn’t know that

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:03 PM

for the programming, you would constantly be switching in & out maps...

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:03 PM

what if the user closes RLBot before the maps can be switched back?

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:03 PM

then the user gets rly, rly mad

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:03 PM

Maybe I should cook up a demo and then get people onboard haha

ThatOtherNinja#6315

12/22/2020 8:03 PM

That doesn’t sound too bad. But it would be a bit tricky

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:04 PM

if u could get a working demo...

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:04 PM

For my own purposes I replace Labs Utopia (the donut), which is completely unused

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:04 PM

something like that would be our best bet

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:04 PM

the hardest thing would be to get the RLBot community to make custom maps

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:04 PM

we aren't map makers

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:04 PM

we're bot programmers

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:04 PM

I gotchu

ThatOtherNinja#6315

12/22/2020 8:05 PM

What happens if you replace a map and then it tries to load you into a normal match with the wrong map?

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:05 PM

I run two mapmaking discords 👍

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:05 PM

if u pull this off, in full, that's a one-way ticket to contributor xD

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:06 PM

If you load into a private match or online game (hosted on their servers) it times out with a content mismatch

ThatOtherNinja#6315

12/22/2020 8:06 PM

Interesting

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:06 PM

But if you host a local match and expose your own IP address for people, they can join by mimicking your file setup and connecting through the rocket plugin for bakkesmod

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:07 PM

So basically, if you just replace a map that's never used in online play, there's nothing to worry about

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:07 PM

And you can always restore it with steam's file integrity checks

Mr. Swaggles#2368

12/22/2020 8:08 PM

So yeah, my dream goes something like this: • cook up a demo for hotswapping custom maps • see if mapmakers would want to collaborate with bot makers to make a series of custom maps • ??? • profit

Deleted User#0000

12/22/2020 8:15 PM

RLBot uses local exhibition matches to run it's games, except for upgrading RLBot you can run it 100% offline

DomNomNom#1537

12/23/2020 4:32 AM

Adding a way to know about the map collision mesh would be a needed non-trivial feature too

Deleted User#0000

12/23/2020 7:27 AM

they’re custom standard maps

ghostrider-05#8461

12/25/2020 6:06 PM

If this idea is being continued, I'd be willing to make a custom map. It sounds interesting

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Tormak#6639

12/25/2020 9:04 PM

in online, u get a matchmaking ban

Mal#5601

12/26/2020 4:03 AM

Unless it is casual, which then I believe it just fails to load in

Mal#5601

12/26/2020 4:04 AM

At least that's what it did the last time I tried that

Smelly Bum#1555

12/26/2020 9:58 PM

Suggestion: Pause a match until every bot connected has returned their first get_output call.

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DomNomNom#1537

12/29/2020 3:43 AM

My opinion is that bots should be able to get ready in the same time as humans. In the time of the field loading and the pre-match time and the 3-second countdown, I think it should be sufficient to start a bot. Giving an advantage to bots that do lots of pre-calculation before the match starts is an incentive that is going to make the user experience worse for people who like to just play versus bots.

Smelly Bum#1555

12/29/2020 3:54 AM

Scratch bots for example simply have no chance at all to load in that amount of time.

Eastvillage#2628

12/29/2020 3:59 AM

Its your own fault if you make a huge Scratch bot. I agree with Dom

Smelly Bum#1555

12/29/2020 4:11 AM

As for not encouraging precomputation I'm fine with that as an arguement. But as for adding insult to injury for picking one language over another, I think it's complete bullshit.

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tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 4:22 AM

🤷‍♂️

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:19 PM

Make a gui option for under Extra (perhaps a dropdown list) - One says 60, which is default, and then there's 120 and 240 When the user changes the option, the GUI then changes TARLBot.ini to reflect what the user wants This way, 60tps is the default, so there's no weird first-time-launch-change-to-120-tps stuff, but it's really easy for the user to change to using 120tps

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 2:22 PM

that's a good idea, I'd like to do that

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 2:23 PM

we can make the dev work easier by passing an argument to Rocket League rather than finding and modifying the UI

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:24 PM

oh yea, u mentioned that

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:24 PM

just default 240tps

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 2:24 PM

but the tricky thing is Rocket League needs to restart for the change to apply, so we have to think about what should happen

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:24 PM

Rocket League needed to restart anyways

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:25 PM

you alr kill & restart RL for the epic login trick

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 2:25 PM

yeah, but should the GUI just inform them they need to restart, or kill the process automatically?

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:25 PM

both

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:26 PM

let there be a button that says 'Restart RL Required'

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:26 PM

give the user some time to get ready

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:26 PM

then when they press it, it does it's thing

Darxeal#1784

12/29/2020 2:26 PM

can rlbot still work after you restart rocket league tho?

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:26 PM

yes, as long as you start it with the correct args

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:27 PM

closing the game & then pressing start match doesn't work bc RLBot doesn't know to reopen the game

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 2:27 PM

I believe we would need to restart RLBot.exe as well since it's not particularly robust when Rocket League dies

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:27 PM

rly?

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:28 PM

that shouldn't be too big of an issue, if we *know* RL died

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:28 PM

just kill them both

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:28 PM

or do we need to close the GUI, too?

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 2:28 PM

we don't need to close the GUI

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 2:28 PM

it's very solveable, just a question of how we choose to do it

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:29 PM

I think a big red button in the middle of the screen should do it

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 2:29 PM

oh, and remember to stop the current match, if one exists

Darxeal#1784

12/29/2020 2:33 PM

maybe a "restart rl to apply changes" is enough, automatically killing it is another thing that can not work on someones machine 🤷‍♂️

Simp#8258

12/29/2020 7:12 PM

Can't we just pass 240 tick arg to rocket league and run 240 all the time

Simp#8258

12/29/2020 7:13 PM

And use the socket readymessage desired tick rate to then give the bots what they want

Simp#8258

12/29/2020 7:13 PM

Totally offloading tickrates from users

Simp#8258

12/29/2020 7:14 PM

Also can't we run rocket league console commands?

Simp#8258

12/29/2020 7:15 PM

You can run quit and it should gracefully exit out no?

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 7:21 PM

I'm about to remove that from the ready message since it's not implemented yet and it's a little awkward

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 7:22 PM

we certainly could just pass 240, I'm not aware of any downsides at the moment

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 7:29 PM

let's bc there are none!

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 7:29 PM

RLBot can always manually divvy out the packets to bots

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 7:29 PM

also, tick rate *shouldn't* be in the hands of the user, bc most users don't know what the hell they're doing

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 7:30 PM

it should be in the hands of the botmakers

Konvertor#3146

12/29/2020 8:17 PM

Put it in the hands of Twitch chat :smart:

smart (1)

tarehart#6423

12/29/2020 8:24 PM

now yer talkin

Deleted User#0000

12/29/2020 8:27 PM

:smart:

Smelly Bum#1555

12/30/2020 1:56 AM

RNGesus take the wheel! random.randrange(1,240)

Deleted User#0000

12/31/2020 8:34 PM

Make a happy new year's announcement in a few hours

rivques#4310

01/02/2021 8:02 PM

@US, @EU roles etc

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ThatOtherNinja#6315

01/02/2021 9:38 PM

Why?

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rivques#4310

01/03/2021 7:03 AM

So that it’s easier to tell time zones

0x57696c6c#3433

01/03/2021 7:20 AM

Just ask if you want to know