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Re: Centris 650 Math CoProcessor option Reply-To: Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for. Distribution: usa Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info Lines: 40 writes: >Sorry if this is a FAQ. I don't normally read comp.sys.mac.hardware. >I am purchasing a couple of Centris 650's. I configured the systems >as follows: > Eight Mb RAM > Ethernet > 1 Mb VRAM > Math CoProcessor option >My purchasing agent told me about the math coprocessor option and sent >me the Apple summary documentation to prove it. I ordered the coprocessor >option, but I'm really not sure that we needed it. I thought the '040 chip >had a math coprocessor built into it. Has Apple had a math coprocessor chip >architectured to keep up with the speed of the '040 chip in the Centris 650? >I am concerned that I may have set up a hardware bottleneck. Apple has really confused people with this whole thing. I think we'll be answering this question for about the next year or so. There is no "option" to get an FPU on a C650. What you have is a choice of CPUs: there is the 68LC040 that does not have an integrated FPU like the full '040 and is only present in the base 4/80 model of the C650 . And there is the full '040 which you get when you order anything other than the base 4/80 configuration. Therefore, since you have ordered one of the 8MB versions with on-board Ethernet models you will not be getting the LC040. But even if you wanted to have the LC040 you wouldn't be able to order a C650 with 8MB RAM, on-board Ethernet and an LC040. It's not an "option." Also, a note to people out there that have 4/80 C650s and C610s thinking that there is an optional FPU, the '040 class chip cannot recognize an external FPU, so there is no socket on the motherboard for a FPU chip and you cannot go out and purchase an FPU on a PDS card or something like that. The only way to get an FPU in these machines is to replace the LC040 with a full '040. And if you have a C610, you will not need to worry about a heat sink if you do replace the LC040 with the full '040, but if you have a 4/80 C650 you do need to have a heat sink. -Hades
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Re: CD300 & 300i Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA Lines: 89 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu In article <> writes: > >In article <>, writes: >> In article <>, "Donpaul C. Stephens" >> <deathbird+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >> > >> > What is the difference? >> > I want a double-spin CD-ROM drive by May >> > >> > looking into NEC and Apple, doublespins only >> > what is the best? >> >> Nec Toshiba and Sony nearly deliver the same speed. >> As apples prices are very low >> You should buy what is inexpencive. But think of Driver revisions. >> It is easier to get driver kits from Apple than from every other >> manufacturer >> >> Christian Bauer >> >> > > > I thought NEC and Toshiba CD-ROM mechanism have an average >access time of less than 200 ms. While the SONY-APPLE CD-ROM >drive has an access time of 300 ms for the doublespin models. > >- Chung Yang > I have the a CD-Technology drive with the Toshiba mechanism, and it is supposedly the fast and best now. It has an access of 200ms and a data transfer rate 300Kb/sec. It is multisession photo-cd compatible. It is available from educorp for $599, the CD-Technology one, and comes with two mail in coupons for two free CDs. I'm not sure if the cd's are good, since I've only had the drive a little less than a month and had the cd's shipped to my home address in california instead of here in maryland. The CD-technology drive has a separate power supply separated from the drive, which supposedly gives it a longer life, and keeps it cleaner with no fan to attract dust. A Toshiba brand drive is also available, but I think the CD-Technology is better, since you get the same mechanism, and at a slightly lower price with two free CDs. The Apple 300/330i Drive, Sony Mechanism, is around a 300ms access time I think, and a data transfer rate of 300Kb/sec. I know it is the slowest of the three mentioned here. It is not widely available, except through the apple catalog, which is bad at a price of only $599. It is also multi-session photo cd compatible. I think the external model comes with 7 free cds, some of which are pretty good. The NEC drive has been out the longest. it has an access time of 280ms and a data transfer rate of 300Kb/sec. it is available from many vendors around $600 dollars, including Educorp. It wasn't multi-sesssion photo-cd compatible before, but I hear that the current version that is shipping is. Owners of the older drives can get an upgrade. It does not come with any free cd's unless you buy it in a bundle. Of the three CD-Rom drives above, i think the best choices would be the Apple drive and the CD-technology drive. The apple drive for it's compatibility with apple products and the cd-technology for it's speed and performance. BTW, the models of the drives are: Apple: AppleCD 300 or AppleCD 300i CD-Technology: CD-T3401 NEC: CDR-74 I'm very happy with my drive. And have had no compatibility problems whatsoever. If I am wrong about any of the above, do correct me, but I am pretty sure of myself, even when I think I'm not. Also, some of you out there might notice that I have the same last name as the president of CD-Technology which happens to be in southern california, my hometown. However, I AM NOT a relative nor do I know the guy. Liu is just a common chinese name, especially in southern california, with the enormous chinese community. Besides, one of my doctors in california has three Steve Liu's as patients and another Steve Liu comes to my school and lives in the next dorm. This is to show that Liu is very common. Steve :-) -- Steve Liu |I wish for a better .sig |Suggestions are very welcome! |
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Re: Syquest 150 ??? Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Distribution: usa Lines: 30 In article <> writes: >I remember someone mention about a 150meg syquest. Has anyone else >heard anything about this? I'd be interested in the cost per megabyte and the >approximate cost of the drive itself and how they compare to the Bernoulli 150. I think you must be talking about the Syquest 105 . It is a 3.5" Winchester technology drive pretty much like the other Syquest drives in terms of how it works. According to the latest MacLeak, the drive has a 14.5 ms access time, 1.9 MB/s sustained throughput . The drive was originally released for the PC and just recently was released for the Mac world and through they are currently in limited supply, according to a Syquest rep. they are in the process of ramping up for mass production. I have already seen them advertised by a number of manufacturers in MacLeak including PLI, MassMicro, ClubMac, and MacWarehouse's PowerUser. The PLI and MassMicro units are priced at just around $1000; the lesser name brands are going for around $750 for an external drive. Cartridges which hold 105 MB sell for about $80 each. At these prices, the drives and cartridges are cheaper and better performing than the 88MB drives. Cost per megabyte compares favorably with other cartridge drives and Bernoulli drives, but for large amounts of data optical is still cheaper, and more reliable. Personally, I'm excited by the new drive and look forward to getting my hands on one. -Chris Wand -- "Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity." - Frank Leahy
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wrong RAM in Duo? Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 9 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: thobbes.mit.edu A few posts back, somebody mentioned that the Duo might crash if it has the wrong kind of RAM in it. My Duo crashes sometimes after sleep, and I am wondering if there is any software which will tell me whether or not I have the right kind of RAM installed. I had thought that the problem was the battery connection. Thanks in Advance, Archon Fung
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Re: My IIcx won't turn on... Organization: MDA-W Lines: 22 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: q5022531.mdc.com In article <>, wrote: > > Anyone know what would cause my IIcx to not turn on when I hit the keyboard > switch? The one in the back of the machine doesn't work either... > The only way I can turn it on is to unplug the machine for a few minutes, > then plug it back in and hit the power switch in the back immediately... > Sometimes this doesn't even work for a long time... TJ This problem is most likely the same that all cx users are experiencing.... Thanks to one very adventurous USENET reader it is easily fixed, if it is the same problem...... Best I can figure it is due to time, heat and repeated warmup/cool downs in the power supply....i.e., bad solder joints in the power supply circuit card. Go get a desolder tool from radio shack, a low wattage iron and some good nonacid solder and resolder the lower left quadrant of the circuit card with the AC plugs facing away from you..........or get someone to do it for you. It took me less then 10 minutes and saved me at least $300 for a new supply!
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Re: SIMM vs DRAM Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.fwi.uva.nl Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam Lines: 16 writes: >Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a 256K DRAM chip and a >256K SIMM? I need the former to add memory to my Laserwriter >LS. Someone is offering to sell me 256K SIMMS he removed from an SE, but >I have a feeling this may not be the correct form of memory. The sockets >in the Laserwriter look like they want the spidery-shaped chips . >Believe it or not, I've never actually seen a SIMM. Help appreciated. A SIMM is a small PCB with DRAM chips soldered on. --maarten -- In real life: Maarten Carels Computer Science Department University of Amsterdam email:
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RE: Price drop on C650 within 2 months? Article-I.D.: leonardo.9304062132.AA00657 Organization: mailEnteringNews at Honeywell SRC Lines: 36 To: comp.sys.mac.hardware Posted-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 16: 32:51 CDT Received-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 16: 32:52 CDT Nathaniel Sammons writes: >I am going to be getting a C650 soon, but I don;t want Apple >to come out with the Cyclones and the Tempest in a month >and have the price drop on the system I want. I have negotiated a >good deal with a supplier for a C650 8/80 and I would like to jump on it, >but, again, I don't want the price drop to smuther me. BTW, the deal >I have is a C650 8/80 with mouse for $2295... does anyone know of a better >deal? I don't know how to say it best but you are gaurenteed that the price of the C650 is going to drop this year. This week's MacWeek reports that Apple is probably planning a drop in August. My guess is that it may come sooner if Apple decides to change the price structure upon release of the multimedia units this summer. Your price looks pretty good at about $50 more then I payed for mine last month. I would have rather waited for one of the new machines this sommer but the resale value of my IIci would have not been squat by then. Thus, financing forced me to purchase now. I'm happy with the machine and won't feel betrayed at all when Apple cuts the price to less then $1000 next week . Bottome line: If the C650 does what you want, buy it. If you wait until the Cylcones come out for a price break then you might as well wait for the PowerPCs to come out for another price break and then the units which follow them. You may save some money but you've lost a lot of time when you could have been using the computer. Face it, Apple's prices are going to be in a continuous state of flux. At least they aren't going to try raising them again . -John
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how to boot from ext HD on power on ? Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH Lines: 12 Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu I have an external hard drive I wish to use as startup disk. problem is, when I switch on the mac, it boots on the internal HD, but when I restart the mac, it boots from the external. how do I make it boot directly from the external ? please email replies if possible. thanks in advance. jerry
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Chris Roberts <>Re: Floptical Question Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 28 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: b63683.student.cwru.edu X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16 X-XXMessage-ID: <> X-XXDate: Fri, 16 Apr 93 21:04:15 GMT In article <> Billy Lee Myers, writes: >Floptical is, of course a different technology, and doesn't enjoy the long >term data storage of opticals. And the last time I looked, floptical disk >weren't all that cheap, . I don't know how many times I've posted this the net. No one EVER listens. Once and for all: Floptical Media is only $1.40 a megabyte if you don't know where to buy it. I am bying my flopticals at $30 per 2 disks. I see that as $.75 a meagabyte, NOT $1.40. No, I'm not buying in bulk, I'm not getting a special deal. $.75 a meg is good in my book, Approching floppy price. Any questions on my source can be sent to Chris Chris Roberts: Here we go again... Well, at least you know where to find me now.. Logged in a terminal, checking my mail..
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Re: Quadras VRAM Question Reply-To: Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 39 Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for. Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info Daniel Salber <> writes: >I have a question regarding Quadras VRAM. I have tried to find info on this >but I could not get precise answers. >On one hand, we have a Quadra 950 with a 16" monitor, which is capable of >32-bit color. How much VRAM does it have? To display Millions of colors on a 16" monitor you need 2MB of VRAM in the Q950. >On the other hand, we have a Quadra 800 with a 16" monitor, which is capable >of 8-bit color only, so it must have 512 Ko of VRAM. Correct. This is the amount of on-board VRAM that the Q800 comes with. >I would like to take VRAM SIMMs for the 950 and put them in the 800 so that >both machines have 16-bit color capability. >Is it possible, and if yes, how many VRAM SIMMs should I take from the 950? Yes this is possible. Technically, you only need to take out 2 of the VRAM SIMMs but leaving in the other two will not get you anything because the 950 cannot really do anything with 1.5MB of VRAM. It only knows 1MB and 2MB. >From the documentation I have, the Quadra 800 must get 1 Mo VRAM to have >16-bit color, is that correct? Yes, this is correct. You get to 1MB by putting 2 256k VRAM SIMMs into the VRAM SIMM slots on the Q800's motherboard. >Bonus question: where do VRAM SIMMs hide? From the 950 documentation, they >seem to be *behind* the power supply. Do I really have to take off the power >supply to access the VRAM SIMMs? Yup. You have to take off the power supply. It's only a couple of screws so you should be ok. Just make sure that everything is disconnected from it and watch out for static discharges.
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I want use DeskJet on System7 Organization: FUJITSU.Ltd., Kawasaki, Japan. Lines: 15 Distribution: comp NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.mfd.cs.fujitsu.co.jp I used HP DeskJet with Orange Micros Grappler LS on System6.0.5. But now I update system 6.0.5 to System7 with Kanji-Talk 7.1, then I can not print by my DeskJet. Is the Grappler LS old ? Can I use DeskJet on System7 ? Please tell me how to use DeskJet on System7. Thank you -- FROM JAPAN
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re: mac portable vs. powerbook 100 answers Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175.5 - Association Mac BBS, Grand Blanc MI Lines: 8 Can the internal hard drive of the MacPortable upgraded to larger capacity? What is the specs? A 3-1/2" drive? LPS model? Is there any third party modem greater than 2400 bps? With FAX option? P.S. I notice the MacPortable batteries are avalable thru the Apple Catalog. -- =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Eric Choi - Internet:
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Half-page hand scanners? Organization: Lafayette College Lines: 6 Originator: Nntp-Posting-Host: lafibm Is anyone out there using a greyscale handscanner. I'm thinking about buying one. Is the inexpensive Logitech pretty good. I don't need super high quality scans- but want it to be worth the $$$$. Thanks in advance- Mike Charles
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Re: Quadra SCSI Problems??? Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Lines: 39 In article <>, wrote: > > In article <>, writes: > |> In article <> writes: > |> >I don't know about the specific problem mentioned in your > |> >message, but I definitely had SCSI problems between my > |> >Q700 and my venerable Jasmine Megadrive 10 cartridge stuff deleted > |> > |> I doubt this is a Quadra-specific problem. I had to get > |> rid of my "venerable" Bernoulli 20 last year (with enough stuff deleted > |> might fix the problem - in my case the cartridges wouldn't > |> format/mount/partition for A/UX. > > All I know is that the Megadrives worked perfectly on both my > Mac Plus and my Powerbook 140. It was for this reason I assumed > the problem had something to do with the Quadra. Even with the > Quadra, they mostly worked OK. The problem occurred when I ejected > a cartridge from a drive: it would start popping up dialog boxes > saying "This cartridge must be formatted with Jasmine Driveware" > even though there was no cartridge in the drive. > > --Mark The problem mentioned last is a known Quadra SCSI problem, it was heavily discussed last year and an Apple employee pointed out that there was a one byte error in the SCSI driver routine for the Quadra's . System 7.1 should not have that problem, for most people the solution was to get an updated driver from the drive manufactor. In my case MASS Microsystems wrote a new driver which fixed the problem on my Quadra 700, all that occured early last year. Michael S. Kluskens Opinions expressed are the author's and not those of his employer.
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Andrew Zelenetz <>Centris 610 Video Problem-HELP Organization: Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center Lines: 25 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: zelenetz.ski.mskcc.org X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d20 X-XXMessage-ID: <> X-XXDate: Thu, 15 Apr 93 16:05:44 GMT We have recently obtained a Centris 610 and it has developed an unusual video problem. Model: 610 with 8 MB/230 HD, 512K VRAM, no cards Monitor: Apple 16" When the computer is set for 256 colors and certain operations are done, particularly vertical scrolling through a window, horizontal white lines appear on the monitor . These lines accummulate as the operation is continued. If a window is moved over the involved area of the screen and then moved away the line disappear from that area of the screen. This problem is not observed if the monitor is configured for 16 colors or a 14 inch Apple monitor with 256 colors is used. I suspect a bad video RAM chip but cannot be certain. The problem has been apparent since day 1 but has gotten worse. We were wondering if anyone has seen anything like this, and if so, how to fix it. Please also respond to Thank you for your help. Andrew Zelenetz Molecular Biology Program Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
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ftp site for Radius software??? Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon Hey All, Does anyone know if I can ftp to get the newest version of Radiusware and soft pivot from Radius? I bought a pivot monitor, but it has an old version of this software and won't work on my C650, and Radius said it would be 4-5 weeks until delivery. Thanks! -Chuck
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5.25" MO sectors/track? Organization: The Portal System Distribution: world Lines: 8 On an ISO/ANSI-standard 5.25" magneto-optical disc, how many sectors are there per track , and how many tracks per disc? Thanks, Jim Frazier
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Re: Quadra 900/950 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 26 writes: > writes: >> writes: >>>Quarda 900 is a popular misspelling of Quadra 900, which has a 25 MHz 040 >>>processor. The 950 has a 33 MHz 040, and some local buses on the >>>motherboard run faster. >>The video is different also. The 950 can run a 13" and I believe a 16" >>monitor in 16 bit color without a VRAM upgrade. > Actually, you could put as much VRAM into a Q900 as you want and you >still won't be able to get 16-bit color, on any monitor. It's not part >of the on-board video. The Q950, however, can use 16-bit video on >monitors up to 19" with 2MB of VRAM. >-Hades Yes, but if you upgrade the VRAM in a 900 you get 24 bit color. So you really don't care. My point is that out the box the 950 has more video capability for the same size monitors. The 900 can do 24 bit with both 13" and 16", doesn't support 19", and does 8 bit on 21" monitors.
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Distribution: world Organization: BMUG, Inc.Re: x86 ~= 680x0 ?? Lines: 11 The real question here in my opinion is what Motorola processors running system 7 on a MAC are comparable to what Intel processors running Windows on a PC? I recall there being a conversation here that a 486/25 running Windows benchmarks at about the same speed as 25Mhz 030 in system 7. I don't know if that is true, but I would love to hear if anyone has any technical data on this. -David **** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG. The message contained in **** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.
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Good display card for 14" multisync? Nntp-Posting-Host: lk-hp-20.hut.fi Reply-To: Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 20 Hi there! I wonder if anyone knows and can recommend me a good NuBus display card for driving a 14" multisync ? The NEC 3D can do horizontal refresh from 15.5 kHz to 38 kHz and vertical from 50 Hz to 90 Hz and can do max 1024x768 interlaced, though I am looking for something more like 800x600 or 832x624 noninterlaced. It would be very nice to find a card which can be programmed quite freely within these limits and is capable to display at least 8bits/pixel, preferably more. Is there anything on the market that comes even close? Thanks -- Jartsu
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Can I remove the 68000 under my daughterboard upgrade? Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA. Lines: 26 The subject says what I would like to do, here are the details: I have a 512ke with the MacRescue upgrade board that makes it the equivalent of a Plus . The MacRescue board clips onto the 68000 on the MB. It also has a 68000 itself. Periodically I have to remove the clip and clean the "legs" of the 68000. Larry Pina's book asserts that this is occasionally a problem with snap on upgrades: the 68000's "legs" will oxidize, causing unusual system errors. Well, that's me. So, I would like to do something permanent, and I think it would be fairly easy to put a socket in where the 68000 currently is, and modify the MacRescue board to plug in. What I'm not 100% sure of is whether it will work. It seems to me that the two 68000s aren't acting independently; so removing one shouldn't have any effect on the performance of my Mac. I'm about 97% sure. Will someone provide the extra 3%? Erik
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Re: Adding int. hard disk drive to IIcx Organization: University of Washington Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu Keywords: Mac IIcx, internal, hard disk drive, SCSI Yes, it is possible to add a second hard drive to a mac IIcx internally. This is definitely not a recommended procedure by Apple but I have done the equivalent to my CX after upgrading it to a Quadra 700. The power supply is still the stock CX's and it was able to power two Quantum LPS drives, a PLI SCSI accelerator, a Micron technologies 24 bit video board, Daystar QuickCache, New Technologies Overdrive and 20 meg of RAM simultaneously. I added a new mount for the drive by attaching angle brackets to the drive tower. The internal SCSI cable was changed to a longer flat ribbon cable onto which I added an extra connector about midway. The final HD was internally terminated and the drive between the motherboard and final HD had its terminator resistor packs removed. Cooling has not been a problem and no SCSI problems occur with either the PLI SCSI chain or motherboard SCSI hooked into the two internal hard drives. It works very well for me, but proceed cautiously if you wish to do the same.
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Re: HP DeskWriter 550C...Opinions? Feedback! In-Reply-To: 's message of 14 Apr 93 14:22:39 GMT Reply-To: Organization: AI Lab, The University of Michigan <> Lines: 16 I like it a lot. It is worth the additional expense. The only problem I found is with MS Word . If you have a table the is longer than a page and the cells have a visible border, the last line on the first page will be missing. It makes no difference how the table is formatted. The worst is that it doesn't show up in word's page view or page preview. -- Arie. ========================================================================= | Arie Covrigaru | University of Michigan AI Lab | | Phone: 994-8887 | Room 149, Advanced Technology Bldg. | | Internet: | 1101 Beal Ave., Ann Arbor, MI 48109 | =========================================================================
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Re: Why does Apple give us a confusing message? Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL Lines: 16 writes: >In <> writes: >>Does anyone know why Apple has an ambiguous message for C650 regarding >>fpu? In all Mac price lists I've seen, every C650 as the message "fpu: >>optional". I know from what we've discussed in this newsgroup that all >>C650 have the fpu built in except the 4/80 configuration. Why would they >>be so unclear about this issue in their price list? >Perhaps the reason is simple--maybe the marketing people who put together >the brochures and price lists weren't clear on the FPU issue. Perhaps the marketing people don't KNOW what an FPU is! -Terry
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Removable Storage Organization: USC Department of Computer Science Distribution: comp Lines: 16 We have a Quadra 700 with 170MB HD, but need to a lot of sound sampling for auditory research. What would be the best type of removable media for storing these audio clips? Ron ============================================================================== | 'They say I'm lazy, but | | it takes all my time... | | Life's been good to me so far!' -Joe Walsh | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Ron Pritchett Internet: | | FidoNet: Ron Pritchett @ 1:376/74.0 | ==============================================================================
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Quadra Clock Chipping Works Organization: University of Washington Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu Summary: Quadra Clock Chip Swap Success Keywords: Quadra,clock,accelerate After reading reports from Germany of success in accelerating a Quadra or Centris simply by changing the clock oscillator, I decided to test the claim. I pulled out my Variable Speed Overdrive and the motherboard's 50 mhz clock chip. I put a socket in the clock's place and inserted a 64 mhz TTL clock oscillator I had left over from working on some SI's. I can't believe it. It actually works. I'm not getting SCSI timing errors either. This is only after a short run time but I'll keep posting results. Did I spend all that money on the VSO for nothing? If this keeps working, the lack of a double boot in itself will be worth the effort. Guy Kuo <>
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Re: x86 ~= 680x0 ?? Distribution: usa Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 59 writes: > writes ... >>I'm sure Intel and Motorola are competing neck-and-neck for >>crunch-power, but for a given clock speed, how do we rank the >>following : >> 486 68040 >> 386 68030 >> 286 68020 >040 486 030 386 020 286 How about some numbers here? Some kind of benchmark? If you want, let me start it - 486DX2-66 - 32 SPECint92, 16 SPECfp92 . >>While you're at it, where will the following fit into the list: >> 68060 >> Pentium >> PowerPC >060 fastest, then Pentium, with the first versions of the PowerPC >somewhere in the vicinity. Numbers? Pentium @66MHz - 65 SPECint92, 57 SPECfp92 . PowerPC @66MHz - 50 SPECint92, 80 SPECfp92 . >>And about clock speed: Does doubling the clock speed double the >>overall processor speed? And fill in the __'s below: >> 68030 @ __ MHz = 68040 @ __ MHz >No. Computer speed is only partly dependent of processor/clock speed. >Memory system speed play a large role as does video system speed and >I/O speed. As processor clock rates go up, the speed of the memory >system becomes the greatest factor in the overall system speed. If >you have a 50MHz processor, it can be reading another word from memory >every 20ns. Sure, you can put all 20ns memory in your computer, but >it will cost 10 times as much as the slower 80ns SIMMs. Not in a clock-doubled system. There isn't a doubling in performance, but it _is_ quite significant. Maybe about a 70% increase in performance. Besides, for 0 wait state performance, you'd need a cache anyway. I mean, who uses a processor that runs at the speed of 80ns SIMMs? Note that this memory speed corresponds to a clock speed of 12.5 MHz. >And roughly, the 68040 is twice as fast at a given clock >speed as is the 68030. Numbers? >-- >Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth > than lies." -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- Ravikumar Venkateswar A pun is a no' blessed form of whit.
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"Altan J. Stalker" <>SE/30 Hard Drive Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Indiana University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 1161 Lines: 33 I have an SE/30 with a 80 meg HD which dates back to April 1989. When I originally purchased it, I experienced the failure to boot problem. This was fixed soon after by a ROM upgrade on the hard drive. Lately a similar problem has been occuring. When the computer is powered on the HD light flashes a few times and then I am given the "no disk to boot from" icon. However, upon turing the computer off and on again the drive ALWAYS boots up just fine. Furthermore, if instead of turning the power on and off I press the reboot button the same problem occurs. But, as I said, turning the power off and on always works. This problem is different from the 1989 boot problem in that before it often required several power off and ons to get it to boot. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what the problem is or how it can be fixed? I'm wondering if it's getting old and requires more time to "come up to speed" now. Is there a PRAM or SCSI setting that allows me to tell the computer to wait a little longer before trying to access the HD? Thanks! Altan J. Stalker Indiana University Computer Science Dept.
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Alexander Samuel McDiarmid <am2o+@andrew.cmu.edu>Re: Centris 610 Video Problem - I'm having it also! Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 40 Distribution: comp NNTP-Posting-Host: po3.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <> re: Centris 610 Video Problem - I'm having it also! Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 03:17:45 GMT > When the computer is set for 256 colors and certain operations are done, > particularly vertical scrolling through a window, horizontal white lines > appear on the monitor . These lines accummulate as the operation is continued. If a > window is moved over the involved area of the screen and then moved away > the line disappear from that area of the screen. This problem is not > observed if the monitor is configured for 16 colors or a 14 inch Apple > monitor with 256 colors is used. > > I suspect a bad video RAM chip but cannot be certain. The problem has > been apparent since day 1 but has gotten worse. I'm having exactly the same problem. Again, it's fine when I switch to 16 colors or a smaller monitor. My configuration is: Model: Centris 610 with 4 MB/80 HD, 512 VRAM, no cards Monitor: MAG MX15F with 16" monitor adaptor I just discovered the problem a little while ago after plugging in my new MAG monitor. It seems to appear either when scrolling through a window or when using Alpha or Word and I enter <return>. My guess is bad VRAMs as well. I really hope it isn't a design flaw. Is anyone at Apple listening? Pushpinder Singh *********************************** Try finding an init called Basic color monitor. This should clear up some probs with Centris 610's and vga type monitors. I know it exists, somewhere I have a binhexed copy, but I don't know where and never got around to installing it. I have this problem on my sony 1604. -A.
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Thanks Apple: Free Ethernet on my C610! Article-I.D.: pion.Apr.6.12.05.34.1993.11732 Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 26 Well, I just got my Centris 610 yesterday. It took just over two weeks from placing the order. The dealer appologized because Apple made a substitution on my order. I ordered the one without ethernet, but they substituted one _with_ ethernet. He wanted to know if that would be "alright with me"!!! They must be backlogged on Centri w/out ethernet so they're just shipping them with! Anyway, I'm very happy with the 610 with a few exceptions. Being nosy, I decided to open it up _before_ powering it on for the first time. The SCSI cable to the hard drive was only partially connected . No big deal, but I would have been pissed if I tried to boot it and it wouldn't come up! The hard drive also has an annoying high pitched whine. I've heard apple will exchange it if you complain, so I might try to get it swapped. I am also dissappionted by the lack of soft power-on/off. This wasn't mentioned in any of the literature I saw. Also, the location of the reset/interupt buttons is awful. Having keyboard control for these functions was much more convenient. Oh, and the screen seems tojump in a wierd way on power-up. I've seen this mentioned by others, so it must be a...feature... Anyway, above all, it's fast. A great machine at a great price!
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Trying to find a reliable Power Center for MACS Article-I.D.: bme.1993Apr15.222020.4004 Organization: Biomedical Engineering and Applied Therapeutics, CCF Lines: 18 Hi There, I am trying to find out a reliable Power Center, it is basically a surge protector that sits below the monitor and has individual control for each outlet. Some people have an opinion that none of them work well. The ones that I could locate in Microcenter catalogue were: Tripp Lite's Isobar Command COnsole Proxima Power Director Kensington Masterpiece Plus Has anyone used one of these? Could you please send me your feedback on these? thanks -shalabh
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Centris 650 Math CoProcessor option Organization: The Portal System Distribution: usa Lines: 21 Sorry if this is a FAQ. I don't normally read comp.sys.mac.hardware. I am purchasing a couple of Centris 650's. I configured the systems as follows: Eight Mb RAM Ethernet 1 Mb VRAM Math CoProcessor option My purchasing agent told me about the math coprocessor option and sent me the Apple summary documentation to prove it. I ordered the coprocessor option, but I'm really not sure that we needed it. I thought the '040 chip had a math coprocessor built into it. Has Apple had a math coprocessor chip architectured to keep up with the speed of the '040 chip in the Centris 650? I am concerned that I may have set up a hardware bottleneck. Please send your responses to: I will summarize if there is enough interest. Thanks! -- David Guevara, Internet:
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Token Ring Cards for Macs Nntp-Posting-Host: mutsu.rc.rit.edu Organization: RIT Research Corp Distribution: usa Lines: 6 I am looking for recommendations/experiences of bringing Macintosh CPUs onto Token-Ring Nets. Can someone point me in the right direction for information. Thanks in advance. -Tom
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Re: Recommendations for removable storage media wanted Lines: 25 Nntp-Posting-Host: ricks Reply-To: Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation X-Newsreader: mxrn 6.18-2 In article <> you write: |>>After having used both Syqyest and Bernoulli's, I most enthuiastically |>>recommend |>>Bernoulli's. Syquests are much slower, prone to |>>cartridge |> |>What does your friends have? Buy it. |> |>If you have no friends, buy a 128 MB optical and stop I bought a Bernoulli 90pro drive last year after comparing it with lots of diffrent storage solutions, OPTICAL drives are SLOW, very slow compared to 13 to 19ms access of Bernoulli. Since I needed additinol online storage , I choosed Bernoulli drive. I use Adobe Preimere and Quicktime movies alot. you ran out of storage real fast. IMHO, the best buy currently is the Bernoulli 150Multidisk. 150MB per cartridge Homayoon Akhiani "Turning Ideas into ... Reality" Digital Equipment Corporation "Alpha, The New Beginning" 77 Reed Rd. Hudson, MA 01701 "All Rights Reserved. Copyright1993" Email: "The words are mine, and not my employer"
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VGA monitors and the mac LC series of computers Organization: University of Regina Lines: 9 I recall reading that the Mac LC can use stand ard VGA monitors, with appropriate cable adapters. I am uncertain of this sinc e I have asked other people who say this is not so. So can all vga monitors be used on the Mac LC? What are the specs needed for a PC monitor to work with a Mac LC ?
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Re: Quadra SCSI Problems??? Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95 Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: stein2.u.washington.edu Keywords: Quadra SCSI APS > ATTENTION: Mac Quadra owners: Many storage industry experts have > concluded that Mac Quadras suffer from timing irregularities deviating > from the standard SCSI specification. This results in silent corruption > of data when used with some devices, including ultra-modern devices. > Although I will not name the devices, since it is not their fault, an > example would be a Sony 3.5 inch MO, without the special "Mac-compatible" > firmware installed. One solution, sometimes, is to disable "blind writes" This doesn't sound right to me. Don't Quadras use the 53C96? If so, the Mac has nothing to do with the SCSI timing. That's all handled by the chip. About the only the timing could be wrong is if Apple programs the clock registers wrong on the 96. That, however, should only really hurt synchronous transfer, which is not used by the Mac SCSI Manager. Furthermore, disabling blind writes should be meaningless on a Quadra. On Macs that used the 5380, which is a much lower level SCSI chip, the Mac was responsible for the handshake of each byte transferred. Blind mode affected how the Mac handled that handshake. On the 5396, the handshake is entirely handled by the chip. --Tim Smith
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Re: My IIcx won't turn on... Nntp-Posting-Host: aix02.ecs.rpi.edu Lines: 7 I've changed the battery in the thing and I've noticed an inordinate number of Bus errors lately... T.J. Pilon
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PB questions... Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: usa Lines: 36 well folks, my mac plus finally gave up the ghost this weekend after starting life as a 512k way back in 1985. sooo, i'm in the market for a new machine a bit sooner than i intended to be... i'm looking into picking up a powerbook 160 or maybe 180 and have a bunch of questions that somebody can answer: * does anybody know any dirt on when the next round of powerbook introductions are expected? i'd heard the 185c was supposed to make an appearence "this summer" but haven't heard anymore on it - and since i don't have access to macleak, i was wondering if anybody out there had more info... * has anybody heard rumors about price drops to the powerbook line like the ones the duo's just went through recently? * what's the impression of the display on the 180? i could probably swing a 180 if i got the 80Mb disk rather than the 120, but i don't really have a feel for how much "better" the display is . could i solicit some opinions of people who use the 160 and 180 day-to-day on if its worth taking the disk size and money hit to get the active display? . * how well does hellcats perform? ;) thanks a bunch in advance for any info - if you could email, i'll post a summary (news reading time is at a premium with finals just around the corner... : -- Tom Willis \ \ Purdue Electrical Engineering --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." - F. W. Nietzsche
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FORSALE: RADIUS Precision Color 24x Video Card Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: hpcsrc13.col.hp.com I have a Radius Precision Color 24x video card for the Mac that fits in a NuBus slot. The card has 3 Mb of VRAM on it, which means that 24-bit color is possible on the card! The card supports just about any monitor scan rate you can think of . You can switch resolutions and depth on the fly with a software control panel. This is the ACCELERATED version of the card, which means all QuickDraw calls are not executed by the CPU but taken over by the video card, freeing up the mac processor for other tasks. The cheapest I could find this card for when I called around last night was $1738 at Mac's Place. I will sell it for $1250 + shipping. It is just over a year old and never been any problem. It comes with software and the original manuals. Hurry! Chris Magnuson Hewlett-Packard Company 590-2963
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Re: LC III NuBus Capable? Reply-To: Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for. Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info Lines: 12 writes: >My friend recently purchased a LC III and he wants to know if there is >such a demon called NuBus adapter for his PDS slot? CompUsa and >ComputerCity Supercenter says they don't carry them. >Does this mean LC III is incapable of carrying a NuBus board? Yes. That is exactly what it means. The LC family of Macs can only use PDS cards. They are not able to use NuBus. -Hades
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Re: HD Setup Partition (Was: OK to set 54 lbs on top of Centris 610??? Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarm422 Organization: Bell-Northern Research Lines: 21 In article <>, wrote: > > > Now if I can figure out if there's any hope using the "partition" button > on the hard disk setup utility , > then maybe I can divide up the wealth among the family members a bit more > securly. The "getting more information" section of the manual suggested > trying other avenues before calling Apple, but didn't mention the net. > -- > Mike Feldman, Motorola Computer Group, 384-8538, FAX 384-8550 > 1101 East University Avenue Pager in IL 302-7738, 351-0009 > Urbana, IL 61801-2009 !udc!feldman The Partition button in Apple's HD Setup lets you set up A/UX and other types of partitions. It WON'T let you create more than one normal mac volume. You need SilverLining or something similar to do that. It WILL, however, allow you to take advantage of some possible unused space on your hard disk, if you don't mind reformatting the whole thing. Chris Ellens
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what size vram simm is this? Nntp-Posting-Host: aix02.ecs.rpi.edu Lines: 20 Hi everyone. I recently posted about how I received a bad vram chip for my new LCIII, and someone responded that it may not actually be bad, but it may be a 512K LC vram chip, and thus doesn't work properly with my computer. So I'm wondering if anyone can interpret these codes for me, so I can figure out what type of chip MacConnection sent me. Each chip says: M518121A-80J 2515251 On the back of the card, it says 0593 I believe from the numbers that means it is an 80ns chip, but I can't figure out what the size is supposed to be. If anyone can help, I'd be grateful. Please email me your response. Thanks a lot! -- Hillel Sims ----- ----- Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute "Is rot13 rotated 13 forward or backward?" --Anonymous
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Re: [ NETWORKING ] How to get 10 Ma Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 24 Nntp-Posting-Host: hemul.nada.kth.se In <> writes: >networked together using Appletalk and PhoneNet connectors. To chat we use a >program called 'Broadcast'. With it we can send brief messages to all or >selected machines within the network. If you use System 7, you can use my application Zing which has a 30 kB footprint It is also compatible with the chat program "FishBomb" which allows sounds and pictures as well. Both are, as far as I know, freeware and should be available on the normal services Cheers, / h+ -- -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe -- This signature is kept shorter than 4 lines in the interests of UseNet S/N ratio.
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Subject: Re: Mac OS on a 486!!! Keith Whitehead <> X-Mailer: rnMac Buggy, I mean Beta, Test Version Lines: 45 In article <>, you write: > > hillman wrote: > : deathbird+@CMU.EDU > : > : kind of slated wouldn't you say?) Who is going to throw all that to the > : side and get the Mac OS for 486??? Not Quite the point to be considdered here! Fact: If/When Apple release system 7 then you will see shortly afterwards Apple no longer producing Hardware...Look at Next with their NextStep486 to see what happens. Who is going to pay Apples Prices when they can get the same thing cheaper else where! > : If Apple released this before windows 3.0 was released I'd be behind them, > : they missed the boat. So why is Apple continued development. Will it > : support the P5 to its fullest capabilities? Run faster than Windows? It > : must do something significantly better than Windows and OS2 to warrent > : being released. No the continued develeopment is because there is becomming less and less profit in Hardware, So the Next Step , is to make the money in software , after all you can sell multiple pieces of software to ONE hardware platform. As you also said Windows is a nightmare for programmers, so will the temptation to sell system 7 to a couple of MILLION dos users be too much for Apple! . -- ========================================================================== : : : : : Be thankfull that we dont get all the government we pay for! : ==========================================================================
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Sven Guckes <>Re: When is Apple going to ship CD300i's? Originator: X-Mail-Reader: Elm 2.4 PL21 Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany X-News-Reader: NN 6.4.13 #13 Lines: 18 writes: >The CD300 is already shipping and has been shipping for >quite awhile now. >Demand for the units are high, so they are pretty rare. Hm, I've got my CD drive since 921230. >I've also heard rumors that they are bundled with a couple of CD's, >but I can't confirm it. Indeed, CDs are bundled with it. You usually get nine CDs with demos of applications, games, photos, etc. I have compiled a list of these and posted it to alt.cdrom. I will post an updated version of this list RSN. Sven :)
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Re: Increasing the number of Serial ports Organization: Control Data Systems Inc. Lines: 16 writes: >Does anyone know if there are any devices available for the Mac which >will increase the number of serial ports available for use >simultaneously? I would like to connect up to 8 serial devices to my >Mac for an application I am working on. I must be able to access each >one of the independently. Applied Engineering makes a NuBus card called the QuadraLink which is a board that contains 4 serial ports, which I believe can be used simultaneously. I'm not a user of one of these, but I have installed a couple for people at work . Hope this helps. -- Aaron Swiers Control Data Corporation, Arden Hills MN Electrical Engineering student, U of ND
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Monitor for LCIII Keywords: LCIII monitor Organization: MIPS Technologies, Inc. Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: arctic.mti.sgi.com Originator: Hi folks I'm planning to buy a LCIII but need advice on choosing a monitor. What do people recommend for a decent 14"/15" monitor? I'v looked at some ads and the spec for NEC 4FG/4FGe and the price is within my budget, but could LCIII be able to use the various resolutions available on 4FG ? Does LCIII only support one resolution? Also any recommendations for a reliable mail order place for LCIII or monitors? Does anyone have experience with the following mail-order places? SYEX EXPRESS USA FLEX Thanks, jeff -- Jeff Lian - or - MIPS Technologies, Inc. 2011 N. Shoreline Boulevard P.O. Box 7311 M/S 10L-175
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Re: Mac II SCSI & PMMU socket question Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 29 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: tokio.cs.utexas.edu In article <1qkmb2$> writes: >1. The Mac II is supposed to have a socket for the MC68851 PMMU chip. Could >anyone let me know where that socket is on the motherboard. I have obtained >a PMMU chip from a surplus store, and would like to install it onto >my Mac II . But I cannot see the socket myself when I tried to >install it. The original Mac II had an Apple MMU chip installed which performs a subset of the 68851's functions. If you look underneath your front left floppy bay you will find three chips, all approximately the same size. One will be the 68020, the next the 68881, and the third, approximately the same size, will be the Apple chip. It is easy to spot because it has a 'hump' in the middle of it. Example: ----------- / \ --------------- --------------- | | | | That and the Apple logo should make it easy to find. Ben
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Laser Writer IINTX upgrade kit Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au Could someone please tell me what a LaserWriter IINTX upgrade kit is. Its a small box, which has a bag inn it , seemingly containing 6 chips and a IINTX manual. The installation instructions are most informative and say, in full, "This product must be installed by an Apple ........." SO what does this do ? At first I thought it might be a NT to NTX upgrade, but I thought that required an entirely new board. Any info appreciated. Doug.
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Re: Interesting ADB behaviour on C650 Nntp-Posting-Host: hemul.nada.kth.se Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 23 In <> writes: >I have heard of no such warnings from anybody at Apple. Just to be sure, I >asked a couple of our technicians, one of whom has been servicing Macs for >years. There is *no* danger of damaging logic boards by plugging and unplugging >ADB devices with the power on. The problem is that the pins in the ADB connector are close to each other, and if you happen to bend the cable a little while inserting it, you short the ADB port. If you take it to an Apple Repair Centre, that means a new motherboard Same goes for serial ports Cheers, / h+ -- -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe -- This article printed on 100% recycled electrons.
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Powerbook 140-180 Batteries Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Lines: 15 A quick query for Powerbook gurus: Tom Spearman, in a post on alternative Powerbook battery options mentioned that there exist 3 versions of their Powerbook 140-180 batteries: a 2.5 amp hour one , a 2.8 amp hour one, and a 2.9 amp hour one . Anyone out there know how to determine which of these a battery is? I looked at my battery and there is no obvious exterior indication. I contacted Tom Spearman who had gleaned the information from MacUser and he didn't know either. Anyone out there know the answer? Thanks! Christopher Majka BTW, if you can reply via EMail I would be grateful. I don't often read this newsgroup. I will post a summary of answers.
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Re: Floptical Question Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu In article <> writes: >...the last time I looked, floptical disk >weren't all that cheap, . Flopticals have been available since the beginning of the year at $25 per floptical , and I have seen them advertised in MacWEEK at $20 . For someone on a tight budget, the fact that the minimal dollar increment for more storage is less---$25 versus $60---sometimes matters.
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Video Display Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services Lines: 34 My mac monitor displays about 20 vertical lines when I use it. It means that either my display memory goes wrong or monitor is bad or video card is bad. I checked my monitor, it works fine with other Mac. I checked my video card, it's also fine. I replaced all the RAMs, it still didn't give me right answer. Hence I assume something wrong with some part of my motherboard. I don't know hardware architecture of the Macintosh. Can anyone tell me what's the problem ???? It's a Mac IIcx. MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Name: Kuan, Yihpyng Born: Taichung, Taiwan, R.O.C. Work Phone: 415-688-6774 Company: Failure Analysis Associates, Inc. 149 Commonwealth Drive, P.O. Box 3015 Menlo Park, CA 94025 My Philosophy: Where there is a will, there is a way!
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Peter Hansen <>Re: Help: 2 internal HDs in Mac II? X-Xxdate: Tue, 6 Apr 93 11:17:54 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarm382 Organization: BNR X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17 Lines: 54 In article <> Kurt Netzer, writes: >Is it possible to install a 2nd 3 1/2" 100 MB HD in a Mac II with a >5 1/4" 40 MB Qunatum HD? >Can i us a 50 pin cable with 3 connectors for the internal motherboard >SCSI-Connector and the 2 SCSI-HD Connectors. The first HD is'nt terminated >the second will be. >Whats about the power supply. Where can i connect a 3 1/2" AMP-Connector >to supply my 3 1/2" HD? It is very possible to connect another internal hard disk in any macintosh if you can find the space to put it. I have a IIsi that came with a Quantum 80 meg drive. When I ran into space problems, I slapped in another 40 meg quantum that I had sitting on a shelf. Here is what I did. First off, I was concerned about space. Since both drives are Quantum quarter height drives, I finally decided that the logical place for them was stacked one upon the other. Fine, they fit snugly. (I have not had a problem with heat yet, and these drives have been running together for over two months. The next problem was connecting the drive. If you have a spare internal hard disk power cable as I did, then half of your troubles are over. just splice in the extra cable so that you get one square motherboard connector and two hard disk power connectors. If you don't have a spare cable, you will have to buy the wires and connectors which can be found in any good electronics store for about $10. I would suggest properly soldering/heatshrinking the connections to reduce the possibility of shorts or bad connections. Next, you need a ribbon cable connection. Again, I had a spare hard disk ribbon cable, and I wanted to be careful in case this didn't word so what I did was purchase a crimp on 50 pin cable connector that gave me another male connector in the middle of my spare cable. The part cost $10 again, and is easily attached with any good wood vice. The theory behind using a crimp on connector is that if this doesn't work, my original cable is not damaged, and I can go back to the original setup. Having done all that, I couldn't be bothered to check the dev notes for power consumption so I plugged it in and it works like a charm to this day. In a mac II, everything should work the same. Be careful with the ID's of the drive, and ensure that the terminating resistors on both drives are intact. I did not try this without the terminating resistors but it seemed logical that if I am splitting the SCSI chain, that the signal should be terminated at all the ends. Let me know if you have any more questions. Peter Hansen Bell Northern Research
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Re: Desktop rebuild and Datadesk keyboard? Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL Lines: 15 writes: >Similarly, I have trained myself to hold down the RIGHT-HAND pair of >command-option for desktop rebuilds. I tried the right set and it didn't work. I'm on the phone to their tech support right now and the guys doesn't know what a desktop rebuild is!!! He's got me holding for someone else............... And holding, and holding, and holding. Ok they finally got back to me and said basically "it should work". Well it doens't and they don't know why. Guess it will go back to MacConnection and I'll buy something else. I've got better things to do than play musical keyboards. -Terry
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Memory in Plus&SE Organization: Temple University Lines: 8 Nntp-Posting-Host: vm.temple.edu X-Newsreader: NNR/VM S_1.3.2 I have to increase the memory in a Plus or SE . I did this a few years ago but I no longer have the instructions. I forget which resistor needs to be cut to go from 1 to 4 Mbs. Can anyone direct me to this information? Is there an ftp'able doc some- where with diagrams? Thanks, Dick Grant
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Subject: Snooper..any opinions Keith Whitehead <> Distribution: world Organization: Apple Source BBS X-Mailer: rnMac Buggy, I mean Beta, Test Version Lines: 16 Has anyone use Snooper or MacEKG or any other similar diagnostic software.Any comparisons/reviews on these products would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help Cheers -- ========================================================================== : : : : : Be thankfull that we dont get all the government we pay for! : ==========================================================================
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TCP/IP routing LocalTalk-Ethernet. Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu Here is the story: I have a network with 4 Macs on Localtalk. One of them has an Ethernet Card, and is currently connected to a NeXT . The NeXT is connected to the internet over SLIP running on a 9600 baud modem. Currently, we can telnet from the Mac w/ Ethernet to the NeXT, and then telnet out again to the rest of the world. What we want to know is if there is some sort of hardware that will route telnet sessions from the Localtalk Macs to the NeXT via the Ethernet Mac. From what we have heard, AIR doesn't do the trick. Software solutions would be good too, but my impression is that there aren't going to be any. Our immediate interest is to be able to get to the NeXT and telnet out again. The SLIP connection doesn't allow us to assign IP numbers to machines, so everyone shares that 1 number...oh well... thanks in advance. -- _______________________________________________________________ Benjamin S. Chuang/ITD-CSS Consultant/University of Michigan:A2
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Re: What to put in Centris 650 Internal Bay? Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 24 writes: > writes: >> writes: >>>Yes, you get internal mixing of the analog CD-Audio outputs with >>>the Mac generated audio on the Mac motherboard. Also you can sample >>>the CD-Audio using the sound control panel by clicking on the Options >>>button next to the microphone icon. >>How do you click on the Options button? I've never seen it undimmed. > The latest word on this is you have to disconnect the Microphone >cable on the motherboard. Then the button is supposed to un-dim. >-Hades Sorry, I assumed that the the various new machines with the internal CD-ROM bay worked the same as the Quadra 900. Obviously they don't. I can use any of three inputs by changing the radio button under the sound cp on my Quadra 900, Microphone, External, and CD-ROM. I always leave the microphone plugged in .
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Re: Duo 230 crashes aftersleep Nntp-Posting-Host: hqsun7.us.oracle.com Organization: Oracle Corp X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle. Lines: 33 Add me to the list of bugged 230 owners. I had a bunch of problems regarding sleep/wakeup/restart with the 230 when I first got it, both with and without the techworks ram. Finally it "died", wouldn't start, until I opened the docking door and the machine came up fine, but with the clock a few decades off. Apple replaced the processor board. Now, twice the machine has frozen twice the machine has refused to wake up. Acutally, the backlighting came on, and the disk spins when the power adaptor is plugged in . The first time this happened removing both power adaptor and battery for ~1 minute brought the machine back. The second time this happened the machine wouldn't wake up until powered down for about 30 minutes. The screen had what looked like red horizontal lines accross it. Both timse the file "fax modem preferences" has been corrupted according to disinfectent). I have removed all the fax and modem software, and the third party memory, and am waiting to see if it happens again. forrest -- Forrest Howard Oracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Box 65414 Redwood Shores, CA 94065
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DIY - PhoneNET, MIDI adapt & MacRecorder Nntp-Posting-Host: lk-hp-18.hut.fi Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Distribution: comp Lines: 7 I remember seeing complete instructions for making PhoneNET adapters, MIDI adapters and a MacRecorder lookalike. After a short search through Mac.archive and info-mac I failed to see any of the above. Any pointers? -- "Supreme Court Ruling: Bolo is an Illegal Drug!" "Computer Programmer Steals Minds of Youths Through New Tank Game!" --pa----"Telephone Standards Rethought Because of New Addictive Computer Game!"
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*** HELP! Newly installed Falcon 2.21 bombs my SE! Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu HELP! I just received my Falcon 2.2.1 upgrade from Spectrum Holobyte today. My SE is running Sys 7.0.1 with 4mb of RAM. Like the instructions said, I only installed Disk 2 . I just downloaded Macsbug from ftp.apple.com like it said, and installed it in my System folder. I restarted the mac an hour later, and it wouldn't completely boot off the internal HD. I get the "happy mac", then it disappears, only to reappear and repeat the cycle continuously. I never even get the "Welcome to Macintosh" message. Norton utilities fixed about 12 new problems, but the same thing still happened. What do I do? Please e-mail to "" THANKS IN ADVANCE!!! Victor Orly ; -- |Victor R. Orly | "Try to imagine all life as you know it, | |aka "Mr. Nitro Plastique" | stopping instantaneously, and every molecule | |Univ. of Southern California | in your body exploding at the speed of light"| |Internet: | -Egon Spengler, from "Ghostbusters" |
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Position of 'b' on Erg. Keyboard Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark Lines: 12 So far I have only seen pictures of the new ergonomic keyboard, but it seems that the 'b' is placed on the left part after the split. However, when I learned typing in school some years ago, I was taught to write 'b' with my right hand. Is this a difference between Danish and American typing, or what??? Thanks a lot in advance! -- Thomas Widmann -Lernu Esperanton- SOLIDVM PETIT IN LINGVIS
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Re: Upgrading PB170 Memory Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Distribution: usa Lines: 18 In article <>, wrote: > > I have one of the original Powerbook 170's and find > that 4Mb is a drag when trying to do my work. So, what is the best way > to get the maximum RAM for this unit, and what's it going to cost me? > I'm hoping I can get the latest and best info from real users by posting > to this group. Well Bill, There are 2MB soldered on the logic board and 2MB in the RAM expansion slot giving you 4MB. The only thing you can do to upgrade to the maximum Ram is to remove the 2MB expansion and install a 6MB expansion, giving you a total of 8MB which is the max on a 170....You can try calling TechWorks, or any other memory vendors out of MacWeek, MacWorld...etc.... <==================================+==================================> Peter Haase + Internet: Network Manager + Los Alamos National Laboratory
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Re: x86 ~= 680x0 ?? Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California Distribution: usa Lines: 30 writes ... > writes: >>040 486 030 386 020 286 > >How about some numbers here? Some kind of benchmark? Benchmarks are for marketing dweebs and CPU envy. OK, if it will make you happy, the 486 is faster than the 040. BFD. Both architectures are nearing then end of their lifetimes. And especially with the x86 architecture: good riddance. >Besides, for 0 wait state performance, you'd need a cache anyway. I mean, >who uses a processor that runs at the speed of 80ns SIMMs? Note that this >memory speed corresponds to a clock speed of 12.5 MHz. The point being the processor speed is only one of many aspects of a computers performance. Clock speed, processor, memory speed, CPU architecture, I/O systems, even the application program all contribute to the overall system performance. >>And roughly, the 68040 is twice as fast at a given clock >>speed as is the 68030. > >Numbers? Look them up yourself. -- Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Distribution: world Organization: MacContent BBS, Doncaster, Victoria, Australia Return-Receipt-To: Re: LC Ram Upgrade will be SLOW! Lines: 9 Yes! what you are saying is absolutey true, but what you fail to mention is the fact that the LCIII uses the new 72 pin simms which allow 32 bit access to each simm. In the case of the LC III, it only has one simm slot, but accesses will be 32 bits wides. *************************************************************************** The views expressed in this posting those of the individual author only. [BBS Number: 848-1346 MacContent is VictoriaÕs first Iconic BBS!] ***************************************************************************
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Re: HELP INSTALL RAM ON CENTRIS 610 Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 8 I had asked everyone about problems installing a 4 meg simm and an 8 meg simm in my Centris 610, but the folks at the local Apple store called the folks in Cupertino and found that you can't have simms of different speeds in one machine, even if they are both fast enough - ie - My 80 ns 8 meg and 60ns 4 meg simms were incompatibable... Just thought people might want to know..... Jason.
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Re: Sampling CD audio Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 28 writes: >In article <>, writes: >> writes: >>> >>>Yes, you get internal mixing of the analog CD-Audio outputs with >>>the Mac generated audio on the Mac motherboard. Also you can sample >>>the CD-Audio using the sound control panel by clicking on the Options >>>button next to the microphone icon. >> >> What's this? My IIvx with an internal CD doesn't have any "CD-Audio" >> icon... >I can't find any such option on my Centris 650 either. On the other hand, I >don't see why I need one. If I try recording sound with the built-in >microphone with an audio CD playing in the drive, I get the CD audio mixed >in with the microphone sound. >And I guess if I unplug the microphone, then I'll get uncontaminated CD >audio . Sorry about the misinformation. I made a bad assumption about the new machines behaving like a Quadra 900, see previous post. About sampling the CD audio though, have you tried it? I found the aliasing to be really bad. Like it needed a filter or something. Much worse than I expected. I installed the CD-300 in the Quadra myself so maybe I missed something. Everything else works great though.
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Re: Powerbook & Duo Batteries Article-I.D.: ringo.ronaldw-050493173709 Distribution: na Organization: SCO Developer Relations Lines: 32 In article <>, wrote: > > writes: > > >To my knowledge there is no way to fully discharge a Duo battery. > > The program PowerStrip2.0, which is freeware, has an option called > "Quick Discharge." You can find it on the Mac archives, probably > sumex-aim.stanford.edu or mac.archive.umich.edu. > > Good luck! > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Kenneth Simon Department of Sociology > Indiana University > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Is it a hidden option? I'm using PowerStrip 2.0 right now and can't find any quick discharge option. It definitely is on mac.archive.umich.edu 'cause I submitted it! ______________________________________________________________________ Ron Wong The Santa Cruz Operation 408-427-7128 Net & Comm Segment Mgr/ 400 Encinal Street, PO Box 1900 FAX: 425-3544 DevProgram Marketing Mgr Santa Cruz, CA 95061-1900 E-mail: ...uunet!sco!ronaldw ______________________________________________________________________
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Replacing internal FDHD w/ floptical? Organization: the Syllabub Sea Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu Hi all, I have a IIsi with a floppy drive that might be bad ) If the drive is not easily reparable, I'd like to replace it with an _internal_ floptical. Can this be easily done? Can it be done at all? I'm assuming that floptical drives can read and write both 800k and 1.4k floppies. If this is not in fact true, please tell me. Thanks in advance, ~ Kiran
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Re: IIsi clock upgrade Organization: Idaho State University, Pocatello Lines: 47 Hi, I have been getting a lot of requests for this information so I thought I would post it for those interested parties. . To increase the MacIISi speed to 25MHz or 33MHz the clock must be changed from 40MHz to 50MHz or 64MHz respectively. This is done by going to a static-free work station or putting some aluminum foil down to work on. 1. Open up the Si by lifting the tabs at the back of the case. 2. Remove the Hard Disk by disconnecting the power and SCSI cables, spreading the tabs, and lifting the drive out. 3. Remove the flopy drive. 4. Remove the power supply by spreading the tab in front and lifting the supply straight up and out. 5. Remove the fan by pressing the ears together at the back, bottom side of the fan and lifting straight up and out. 6. Remove the Mother Board by spreading the tabs on the left and right side of the board and sliding the board forward then lifting the board out. 7. Desolder the 40MHz clock . This is not easy even for a skilled solderer. 8. Get an IC socket with the round pins and remove four of the pins by pushing them up from the bottom with long nose pliers. 9. Put the four pins in the holes vacated by the clock and solder them in. 10.Insert a 50MHz or 64MHz clock. 11.Put large power transistor heat sink's on the processor chip and the other large chip just to the right of the processor and figure some way to hold the heat sync's in place. I made a simple clamp by putting a four inch screw up through the hole in the board between the two chips. Mount the screw using insulated washers. Screw a cross member down over the heat sync's to hold them in place. Don't use too much pressure. 12. Put it all back together and go-for-it. Disclaimer: this is only the procedure I used and is not authorized by anyone. You are on your own for this procedure. I'm quite sure it will void your warentee. Bye for now, ************************************************ Ralph Durtschi 236-3256 Idaho State University EMAIL: ************************************************
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Re: Quadra 700 Sound Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia. Lines: 23 The Quadra 700 goes thru extensive initalize routines of its hardware, read's PRAM, obtains all info from last session including the volume setting, and then executes the sound procedure for the startup sound, and wait's on the SCSI controller to respond to the boot up code. If the DRAM produces an error, or a registers cannot be read from a device, or the device corrupts that address/data or control paths, then if it is possible, the firmware branchs to another sound routine that produces the 'sad mac' sound. This is a general breifing of the start up procedure of a typical mac. If you cannot control the volume of the quadra, even at boot up, then i feel there is something incorrect with the logic board. My Quadra 700 does not show the problems you are having. Steve H
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Re: I want use DeskJet on System7 Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarh1ee Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa Distribution: comp Lines: 30 In article <> writes: >I used HP DeskJet with Orange Micros Grappler LS on System6.0.5. > >But now I update system 6.0.5 to System7 with Kanji-Talk 7.1, >then I can not print by my DeskJet. >Is the Grappler LS old ? >Can I use DeskJet on System7 ? >Please tell me how to use DeskJet on System7. >Thank you >-- >FROM JAPAN I currently use an HP DeskJet with Grappler LS ver 1.0, and it works on System7. Course, I only use the SWA Dutch and SWA Swiss fonts that came with it, due to the 4x size requirement to print to the HP. When I upgraded, I talked to Orange Micro, and they state that ver 1.2 of Grappler LS definitely works with System7. However, the upgrade was US$40, so I passed. Hope this helps? <marc> -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Donovan [Voice: 765-2868 Fax: 763-9250] ---- Disclaimer: I am the only one responsible for my opinions.
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Re: "Jump Starting" a Mac II Organization: Microsoft Corp. Distribution: usa Lines: 5 Apple dealerships once had kits to replace the soldered in batteries with a battery holder. Real easy to install, but it does require some soldering.
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Re: PC Syquest on a Mac?? Organization: Drexel University Lines: 19 In article <1qsk6u$> writes: > >Is it possible, ie via creative cable splicing or whatever, to >hook a Syquest 44MB removable drive to a Mac? > >Is there any difference with the guts of the drive or is it >just cable differences? > >Thanks. > >Rob >-- >Rob Sprecher > Many Companies package Syquest drives for the mac already.... So unless you are using one for the IBM world, Id buy a Mac ready Config. J.
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Re: New Apple Ergo-Mouse Reply-To: Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for. Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info Lines: 19 writes: >Does anyone know how to open up the Apple Ergo-Mouse ? >Mine lives near a cat and picks up her fur. From what >I can tell, it looks like Apple welded it shut. You must not have tried very hard. I just opend mine in about 2 seconds. Take a look on the bottom, it has a dial that turns to open much like the older ADB mouses used to have. It's a bit harder to turn at first but it is quite simple to open. >Also, does anyone know about installing FPUs in a Mac LC III? I've heard some >people saying it has fried the motherboard of the LC III. Well, if you don't match up the pins correctly you will have some problems. A close look at the socket should give you an idea of the proper orientation of the chip. -Hades
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Apple CD300 CDROM "freebies". Organization: GTE Govt. Systems, Electronics Def. Div. Lines: 19 In article <1quod6$>, writes: > ... reseller. I've also heard rumors that they are bundled with a couple of CD's, > but I can't confirm it. > > Sunny ===> I've got two CD300's... The first one i ordered Jan 15, and I received it Feb. 20. The second one I ordered Jan 20th, and I just got it April 2nd or so. Anyway, they both come with 10 misc. CDROMs... Things like a "Intro to Nautilis", a sample CD of Kodak pictures, "From Alice to Ocean" , 3 discs from apple, a games disc, an applications disc, and a "titles" disc . Also some "Cinderella" thing for kids, a disc of Mozart something-or-others, etc. etc. etc. If someone's super interested, I'll make a list of the exact titles and post them. They are all in the category of "Interesting, but probably fairly useless...". It was rumored that the earliest units shipped with SOME encyclocpedia , but neither of my drives had that. -jeff adams-
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Distribution: world Organization: BMUG, Inc.DESI PB upgrade Lines: 9 Does anyone know exactly how Digital Eclipse does their upgrades? Someone was suggesting to me that some chips may not be able to perform at 33MHz. Is this true, and if so, how does DESI deal with that? -David **** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG. The message contained in **** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.
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dingman+@cs.cmu.edu Re: Buying a high speed v.everything modem Nntp-Posting-Host: pie9.mach.cs.cmu.edu Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 38 In article <> writes: > >The AT&T Dataport earns nearly unanimous praises for reliability. They are >backordered at the moment, probably because of the special $299 price in >effect until May. Its fax capabilities are worse than that of the other two >modems. WARNING: AT&T ads say that the modem comes with a Mac kit , and has lifetime warranty. This applies *only* when you order >directly from Paradyne! I called ElekTek , and >they wanted to charge me $16 for cable, and gave only 1 year warranty... > Hmm, I don't know where this information concerning the cable and the warranty came from but I ordered mine from Logos Communications, near Cleveland, and inside was a Mac cable ) and a lifetime warranty. The whole package was assembled at AT&T Paradyne, and every piece had AT&T part numbers on them, except the QuickLink software package and the CompuServe intro kit. >-- >Eric Behr, Illinois State University, Mathematics Department > or If anyone's interested, Logos number is 837-7777. I ordered mine last Wednesday and got my modem on Friday, though it's not to far from Cleveland to Pittsburgh.. :-) On the down side they only ship UPS COD. - Chris +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Christopher P. Dingman | | Electrical and Computer Eng. Dept. | | Carnegie Mellon University 268-7119 | | 5000 Forbes Ave | | Pittsburgh, PA 15213 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Re: DCC and MiniDisc: next DAT/DDS like story? Organization: Xenix Support, FICC Lines: 15 In article <> writes: > Another thing, why a SCSI interface ? Because SCSI works well with removable media, and works well with large capacity devices. The floppy interface you suggest handles the former, but it doesn't have any hooks for dealing with the latter... you'd have to kludge it. Plus, it's extremely low performance. AND, SCSI has gobs of room for expansion compared with a floppy . -- Peter da Silva `-_-' Network Management Technologies Incorporated 'U` 12808 West Airport Blvd. Sugar Land, TX 77478 USA +1 713 274 5180 "Zure otsoa besarkatu al duzu gaur?"
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Re: Stereo sound problem on mac games Keywords: sound stereo, Quadra, 900, PowerBook, 170 Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 26 Nntp-Posting-Host: hemul.nada.kth.se In <1qsfak$> writes: >But, the following games only play out of the left channel: ... >But still, STEREO system beeps do play in stereo, through BOTH speakers. Mac sound hardware is diverse; some macs play in stereo and mix the output while others play in stereo but ONLY has the left channel for the speaker, while some are "truly" mono Developers know that stuff played in the left channel is guaranteed to be heard, while the right channel isn't. Some send data to both, some only send data to the left channel Cheers, / h+ -- -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe -- Engineering: "How will this work?" Science: "Why will this work?" Management: "When will this work?" Liberal Arts: "Do you want fries with that?" -- Jesse N. Schell
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Re: SE rom Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: mrl.dsto.gov.au Gosh, I wish people would read the postings that they are 'following up' to. In article <>, writes: > writes: > >>In article <>, writes: >>> >>> Anyway, I was hoping someone knowledgeable >>> about Mac internals could set me straight: is it simply >>> impossible for a mac SE to print grayscale, or could > >>To use the grayscale features, I believe you need a Mac equipped >>with colour quickdraw. I was told this somewhere or other, but it's > > I think you will find that the Mac SE can PRINT grayscale images, loaded > with the proper software. However, the Mac SE cannot DISPLAY grayscale on The original poster posted an item saying that he had bought a new wizz-bang Laser Printer from Apple which can print GrayScale. He then said that he CANNOT PRINT GRAYSCALE from his SE computer . This is the one major bugbear about doing a 3rd party SE upgrade : you will never be able to run Color Quickdraw. It is Color Quickdraw that controls Color AND Grayscale. SEs CAN print some COLOUR: this is because Quickdraw - the original, non-colour version, has the right hooks for eight colours. Some of you will remember the 'SCSIgraph' solution to getting a colour screen for your SE . There is no reason that Apple couldn't release software patches for older computers - but they wont, and 3rd parties are having a difficult time in duplicating the Mac's ROMs . Just one Caveat: I would have thought that if you were printing a POSTSCRIPT Grayscale image onto a POSTSCRIPT Grayscale printer, that you would be able to do so, whatever Mac you were using. . Phil Ryan Melbourne, Australia
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Peter Hansen <>Re: 72-pin SIMMS, where? X-Xxdate: Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:41:49 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarm382 Organization: BNR X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17 Lines: 13 In article <> Steven Medley, writes: >I am looking for a 8 meg 72-pin SIMM for my Centris 610. Where is the >best place to purchase one , and if >possible, phone numbers so that I can order one as soon as possible. Try Goldstar. They make them, and they are available immediately in Mac configurations. I ordered a pair from Computerland and they work like a charm. I've had them for two weeks. Peter Hansen Bell Northern Research
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Trade Mac SE system for Color Mac??? Article-I.D.: wixer.1993Apr16.181557.11264 Organization: Real/Time Communications Lines: 31 Ok I want to get a color Mac I don't care if it is an LC or a Mac II or what but I want to go to a color machine. I'd prefer to trade my present Mac SE system plus some cash or other equipment for the color system as right now I'm not full of the $$$ to buy a color system outright. Here's what my Mac SE system has... Mac SE 4/20 with internal 800K drive 20 Meg external External 800K drive ImageWriter II with 4 color ribbon Stuff that can go with it...... I've got 3 modems and I'd be willing to give 1 of the 9600's and the 2400 with the system MultiTech Multimodem II U.S. Robotics Sportster Microcom QX/12K The USR and the MultiTech are both brand-new If interested send me e-mail at -- | Primary: | Judy's Stamps (Misc. topical stamps. From Dogs..| | | to cats to baseball and many many other subjects| | Secondary: | For stamp information call Tony Leonard at......| | | 837-0022 This is a business only number!!!|
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Ethernet to LocalTalk On a Quadra? Article-I.D.: ncsu.1993Apr6.135521.22501 Distribution: na Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos Lines: 8 I have used both my serial ports with a modem and a serial printer, so I cannot use Appletalk. Is there a Ethernet to Localtalk hardware that will let me use the Ethernet port on my Q700 as a Localtalk port. Until they come out with satellite dishes that sit on your window & give you internet access from your home, I won't at all be using that port. Saurabh.
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Re: Calling all Mac gurus Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 17 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3h.berkeley.edu In article <1qvs9t$> Charles P. Cox, Jr. <> writes: >Question for those familiar with Quadra VRAM: >I put 2 256K VRAM SIMMs in my Quadra 700 and I got no results whatsoever. I have been told that >the built-in video should support at least 16bit and maybe 24bit color on >a Macintosh Color Display. However, the Monitors control panel still >lists 8bit as the highest possible. the Q700 will only do 8bit or 24bit color. if you want the higher color depth, it's 2MB's of VRAM altogether for a monitor up to 16". for a 21" monitor, you can get 8bit max. hope this answers your questions. James Wang.
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Subject: MAC to LaserJet IIIp Nntp-Posting-Host: husc8.harvard.edu Lines: 12 I have a friend who has a MAC , and her family has an "extra" LaserJet IIIp sitting around. Is there any way to connect these two and make them work without a postscript cartridge? She told me that a random friend of hers had mentioned something about some software package that could do the translation... -Rick -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Rick Osterberg 617-493-7784 617-493-3892 | | 2032 Harvard Yard Mail Center Cambridge, MA 02138-7510 USA | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Sven Guckes <>Re: Looking for free/share wares Originator: X-Mail-Reader: Elm 2.4 PL21 Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany Distribution: comp X-News-Reader: NN 6.4.13 #13 Lines: 14 writes: >I am looking for ftp sites for Mac. >It will help a lot if there are driver source codes in those ftp sites. >Any information is appreciated. F A Q ! Reference: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.answers,news.answersIntroductory Macintosh frequently asked questions Sven :)
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Re: TCP/IP routing LocalTalk-Ethernet. Organization: NSWC Lines: 32 In article <>, wrote: > > Here is the story: > I have a network with 4 Macs on Localtalk. One of them has an > Ethernet Card, and is currently connected to a NeXT . The NeXT is connected > to the internet over SLIP running on a 9600 baud modem. > > Currently, we can telnet from the Mac w/ Ethernet to the NeXT, > and then telnet out again to the rest of the world. > > What we want to know is if there is some sort of hardware that > will route telnet sessions from the Localtalk Macs to the NeXT > via the Ethernet Mac. From what we have heard, AIR doesn't do > the trick. > > Software solutions would be good too, but my impression is that > there aren't going to be any. > > Our immediate interest is to be able to get to the NeXT and telnet > out again. The SLIP connection doesn't allow us to assign IP numbers > to machines, so everyone shares that 1 number...oh well... > What you need is a hardware router such as EtherRoute/TCP made by Compatable Systems . This will allow you to connect your Localtalk network to your Ethernet network . It will route TCP/IP protocol between the two networks. Software routers are also available for less money, but I'm not sure if they work with TCP/IP. Paul
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asynch to synch on the mac Nntp-Posting-Host: mondrian.csufresno.edu Organization: California State University, Fresno Lines: 8 does anyone have any good code to drive the serial port in syncronos mode? I really need it BAD TIA
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Organization: University of Maine System Jon Carr <>Pin map for 8pin-DIN cable? Lines: 26 #### #### # ### # # 1 2 3 # Facing # # Female Plug End # 4 5 6 # # # # # # 7 8 # # # ############# Anyone Recognize this? It's my little layout of a eight pin female plug connector used for many mac peripherals. #####Problem########Problem#########Problem######## Printer cables using this configuration switch a couple of pins between one end and the other. I want to use cheap cables for an A-B box. Anyone know which pins get reversed so I can do some creative editing on the internals of my box? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -----> Jon Jon Carr -----> UMaine '93 1993 NCAA Champions! How about those 42-1-2 Black Bears!! M - A - I - N - E - GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!
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monty% PowerBook 170 4/40 Expires: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 00:43:13 GMT Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!> Organization: Proponent Lines: 8 The PowerBook 170 4/40 with Fax/Data modem is available thru CitiBank's CitiDollars catalog for $1995.00 + $19.95 S/H . The modem is 2400 bps data, 9600 bps fax . -- # Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA 01701-0405 # monty%
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When is Apple going to ship CD300i's? Nntp-Posting-Host: 223.8.248.12 Organization: Motorola Inc, Austin, Texas Lines: 12 I would really like to get one of the new CD300i CDROM drives for my c650, but my local Apple doesn't know when they will be available. He doesn't even have a part number yet. Does anyone know what the part number for this drive is and when it will be available? My Apple dealer suggested I buy one of the CD300 external drives, but I don't want to pay extra for a case/power supply I'm not going to use. -Rodney Jacks
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Re: LCIII->PowerPC? Reply-To: Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for. Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info Lines: 10 writes: >Hi. I own an LCIII and I recently heard an interesting rumor. >I heard that the LCIII has a built in slot for a PowerPC chip. >Is this true? I heard that the slot is not the same as the PDS >slot. Is that true? Don't believe the hype. There is no such thing as a PowerPC slot. -Hades
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Re: 14" monitors In-Reply-To: 's message of Wed, 31 Mar 1993 20:39:45 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Department Distribution: na Lines: 37 In article <> writes: [part of posting removed] * the Sony CPD-1304 has better video circuitry than either of the other two monitors. It can display Apple 640x480, VGA 640x480, VGA 800x600 , and Apple 832x624 . It might be able to display Apple's 1024x768, but I'm not sure about this, and the pixels would be real small anyway so it might not be that useful. Note that with either Sony monitor, you will need the proper adapter, which both connects the video signals properly, but also informs the Macintosh video hardware of which display mode to use. [part of posting removed] -- Fred Martin | | 253-7143 | 20 Ames St. Rm. E15-301 Epistemology and Learning Group, MIT Media Lab | Cambridge, MA 02139 USA I'm assuming that the cabling tells the Mac, at startup, what kind of monitor is connected. Now I think I've seen ads in popular Mac magazines for products that allow you to change resolutions on the fly . If you were to buy a 1304, would it be possible to switch back and forth between Apple 640x480 and Apple 832x624 without restarting the Mac? Is this strictly a hardware startup function, or can software intervene, or does the Mac hardware occasionally probe the cable setting and switch automatically? Thanks, Eric
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Re: Centris Cache & Bernoulli Box Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 7 You will need Driver ver 3.5.2 to work with Quadra/Centris. You can download it from iomega BBS: 1-801-778-4400 -- Dominic Cheng Computer Science, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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Robert Everett Brunskill <rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu>Re: $$$ to fix TRACKBALL Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 7 NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <> Of course, if you want to check the honesty of your dealler, take it in knowing what's wrong, and ask them to tell you. :) Of course he'll probably know right a way, then charge you a $20 service fee. :) Rob
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Re: Desktop rebuild and Datadesk keyboard? Organization: Australian National University Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.22.65 In-reply-to: 's message of 15 Apr 1993 19:35:58 -0400 My Datadesk Mac 101E keyboard has similar problems. I have found that holding down the RIGHT-HAND shift key at startup will work , but the left-hand shift key won't . Similarly, I have trained myself to hold down the RIGHT-HAND pair of command-option for desktop rebuilds. I *is* irritating. Cheers, Michael. -- ----------------------------/|-|--|-|--|------Michael-Smith------------------- /_| |\ | | | Mathematics Research Section --------------------------/--|-|-\|-|_/|------Australian-National-University--
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Re: 2 questions about the Centris 650's RAM Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center X-Newsreader: VersaTerm Link v1.1 Distribution: usa Lines: 27 In Article <>, wrote: >With a little luck, I could own a C650 sometime in the near future, and >so I was just wondering if someone could clear these two questions up for me: > >1. What speed SIMMS does the C650 need/want? > 60ns 72 pin simms. >2. I've heard two conflicting stories about the total expandibility of the >C650's RAM...132 and 136 megs. Which is true? > 2 configs: 4mb & 8mb. In each case the memory is soldered on the board leaving the 4 simm sockets open. 132mb is the total addressable memory for a 650. >Just wondering.... > Michael A. McGuire, :-) UTCC - User Services
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