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Merkel no longer is protecting Germany and Germany's citizens. Merkel is no leader, neither is Treaudeu, Macron. Poland is standing strong and protecting their citizens. President Trump has made America proud!
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Merkel no longer is protecting Germany and Germany's citizens. Merkel is no leader, neither is Treaudeu, Macron. Poland is standing strong and protecting their citizens. President Trump has made America proud!
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Loyalty,Authority
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Merkel no longer is protecting Germany and Germany's citizens. Merkel is no leader, neither is Treaudeu, Macron. Poland is standing strong and protecting their citizens. President Trump has made America proud!
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Merkel and Macron are both pro EU, and they need to show the remaining members that their actions are not without consequences. If the UK will not comply with EU regulations, then I believe they will stand alone from a trade perspective.
europe
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Merkel and Macron are both pro EU, and they need to show the remaining members that their actions are not without consequences. If the UK will not comply with EU regulations, then I believe they will stand alone from a trade perspective.
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Merkel and Macron are both pro EU, and they need to show the remaining members that their actions are not without consequences. If the UK will not comply with EU regulations, then I believe they will stand alone from a trade perspective.
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Macron seems to get a lot of media coverage compared to the other candidates, at least from what I've seen on French TV. Maybe it's similar throughout the rest of Europe?
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Macron seems to get a lot of media coverage compared to the other candidates, at least from what I've seen on French TV. Maybe it's similar throughout the rest of Europe?
europe
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Macron seems to get a lot of media coverage compared to the other candidates, at least from what I've seen on French TV. Maybe it's similar throughout the rest of Europe?
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Even our pro-Le Pen discord (read : sort of our T_D) was saying she dropped the ball. She genuinely appeared incompetent to every sides.
worldnews
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Even our pro-Le Pen discord (read : sort of our T_D) was saying she dropped the ball. She genuinely appeared incompetent to every sides.
worldnews
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Even our pro-Le Pen discord (read : sort of our T_D) was saying she dropped the ball. She genuinely appeared incompetent to every sides.
worldnews
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It's surprising how many people don't understand their motives. They have stated it as plainly as they can. Their goal is to overthrow the western-friendly governments in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc, so they can create the "Islamic State". To do this, they must have people on their side. Terrorism creates the hate needed so that their own people will have to pick sides - us or them. So does Le Pen. It's very simple..
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It's surprising how many people don't understand their motives. They have stated it as plainly as they can. Their goal is to overthrow the western-friendly governments in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc, so they can create the "Islamic State". To do this, they must have people on their side. Terrorism creates the hate needed so that their own people will have to pick sides - us or them. So does Le Pen. It's very simple..
europe
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
It's surprising how many people don't understand their motives. They have stated it as plainly as they can. Their goal is to overthrow the western-friendly governments in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc, so they can create the "Islamic State". To do this, they must have people on their side. Terrorism creates the hate needed so that their own people will have to pick sides - us or them. So does Le Pen. It's very simple..
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> a joint EU operation EU? You will only get that with Macron, not with Le Pen.
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> a joint EU operation EU? You will only get that with Macron, not with Le Pen.
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> a joint EU operation EU? You will only get that with Macron, not with Le Pen.
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> Because Macron is a post-ideological candidate Being "post ideological" doesn't mean you don't have an ideology, if anything it means you probably subscribe to the dominant ideology of society.
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> Because Macron is a post-ideological candidate Being "post ideological" doesn't mean you don't have an ideology, if anything it means you probably subscribe to the dominant ideology of society.
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> Because Macron is a post-ideological candidate Being "post ideological" doesn't mean you don't have an ideology, if anything it means you probably subscribe to the dominant ideology of society.
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> Which they will have no incentive to do if they win in spite of your attempts to undermine them. Presumably they might want to run in the following elections. And sure, Le Pen didn't win, but 33% voting for her tells something about the stability of politics in France.
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> Which they will have no incentive to do if they win in spite of your attempts to undermine them. Presumably they might want to run in the following elections. And sure, Le Pen didn't win, but 33% voting for her tells something about the stability of politics in France.
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> Which they will have no incentive to do if they win in spite of your attempts to undermine them. Presumably they might want to run in the following elections. And sure, Le Pen didn't win, but 33% voting for her tells something about the stability of politics in France.
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I'm stealing this comment for when Le Pen will lose
europe
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Non-Moral
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I'm stealing this comment for when Le Pen will lose
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I'm stealing this comment for when Le Pen will lose
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Islam? The far right only needs one "terrorist attack" to happen under Macron's watch.
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Islam? The far right only needs one "terrorist attack" to happen under Macron's watch.
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Islam? The far right only needs one "terrorist attack" to happen under Macron's watch.
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No, but i'd say its quite obvious that other politicians have complained while hollande did not.
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No, but i'd say its quite obvious that other politicians have complained while hollande did not.
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No, but i'd say its quite obvious that other politicians have complained while hollande did not.
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Melenchon, no question. Then again I'd choose him over Fillon, Macron, or Hamon as well.
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Melenchon, no question. Then again I'd choose him over Fillon, Macron, or Hamon as well.
europe
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Melenchon, no question. Then again I'd choose him over Fillon, Macron, or Hamon as well.
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I was Hamon until the first debate, then Mélenchon's proposed sixth republic completely swayed me to him, and from the polls it appears that I am not the only one.
europe
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I was Hamon until the first debate, then Mélenchon's proposed sixth republic completely swayed me to him, and from the polls it appears that I am not the only one.
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I was Hamon until the first debate, then Mélenchon's proposed sixth republic completely swayed me to him, and from the polls it appears that I am not the only one.
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> When you have a candidate of a party winning the majority of the public's votes it simply doesn't match that definition. What candidate are you talking about? Le Pen doesn't have the majority of the public's votes...
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> When you have a candidate of a party winning the majority of the public's votes it simply doesn't match that definition. What candidate are you talking about? Le Pen doesn't have the majority of the public's votes...
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> When you have a candidate of a party winning the majority of the public's votes it simply doesn't match that definition. What candidate are you talking about? Le Pen doesn't have the majority of the public's votes...
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You didn't use the word, but the implication of your post is that liking Trump and Le Pen is somehow at odds with homosexuality and secularism, and therefore "right wing", which is a practical synonym of "conservative". My point is that there is no such tension. The so-called "no true Scotsman fallacy" doesn't apply here since I am using the original, coherent definitions of the terms: left = progressivism, right = conservatism/traditionalism. In every meaningful sense, Trump is a progressive. In fact, that document so idolized by American "conservatives", the US constitution, is _fundamentally incompatible_ with genuine rightism.
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You didn't use the word, but the implication of your post is that liking Trump and Le Pen is somehow at odds with homosexuality and secularism, and therefore "right wing", which is a practical synonym of "conservative". My point is that there is no such tension. The so-called "no true Scotsman fallacy" doesn't apply here since I am using the original, coherent definitions of the terms: left = progressivism, right = conservatism/traditionalism. In every meaningful sense, Trump is a progressive. In fact, that document so idolized by American "conservatives", the US constitution, is _fundamentally incompatible_ with genuine rightism.
worldnews
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You didn't use the word, but the implication of your post is that liking Trump and Le Pen is somehow at odds with homosexuality and secularism, and therefore "right wing", which is a practical synonym of "conservative". My point is that there is no such tension. The so-called "no true Scotsman fallacy" doesn't apply here since I am using the original, coherent definitions of the terms: left = progressivism, right = conservatism/traditionalism. In every meaningful sense, Trump is a progressive. In fact, that document so idolized by American "conservatives", the US constitution, is _fundamentally incompatible_ with genuine rightism.
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Helping nazis is not tolerance, its collaborationism. And Le Pen's party is full of nazis. Actual, real deal, nazis.
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Helping nazis is not tolerance, its collaborationism. And Le Pen's party is full of nazis. Actual, real deal, nazis.
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Helping nazis is not tolerance, its collaborationism. And Le Pen's party is full of nazis. Actual, real deal, nazis.
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He's not saying that this was an inside job by Le Pen's campaign, if that's what you're assuming. I believe he's saying that terrorists timed it this way to stoke fear which would improve Le Pens chances and increase support for the far-right, because a stronger far-right gives terrorists a bigger enemy, making them stronger in turn. Doesn't seem that unreasonable to me.
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He's not saying that this was an inside job by Le Pen's campaign, if that's what you're assuming. I believe he's saying that terrorists timed it this way to stoke fear which would improve Le Pens chances and increase support for the far-right, because a stronger far-right gives terrorists a bigger enemy, making them stronger in turn. Doesn't seem that unreasonable to me.
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He's not saying that this was an inside job by Le Pen's campaign, if that's what you're assuming. I believe he's saying that terrorists timed it this way to stoke fear which would improve Le Pens chances and increase support for the far-right, because a stronger far-right gives terrorists a bigger enemy, making them stronger in turn. Doesn't seem that unreasonable to me.
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If these were real the guy would have sent copies of the whole stack of documents to several reputable journals instead of posting a few photos on fucking 4chan. Until independent parties corroborate this it's *literally* fake news that's designed to stay in the public eye just long enough to survive the election. You should honestly feel bad for not being more skeptical of it, regardless of your own political leanings or motivations. I'd say the same if this were documents about Le Pen supposedly being 'leaked' on 4chan, or here for that matter.
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If these were real the guy would have sent copies of the whole stack of documents to several reputable journals instead of posting a few photos on fucking 4chan. Until independent parties corroborate this it's *literally* fake news that's designed to stay in the public eye just long enough to survive the election. You should honestly feel bad for not being more skeptical of it, regardless of your own political leanings or motivations. I'd say the same if this were documents about Le Pen supposedly being 'leaked' on 4chan, or here for that matter.
europe
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If these were real the guy would have sent copies of the whole stack of documents to several reputable journals instead of posting a few photos on fucking 4chan. Until independent parties corroborate this it's *literally* fake news that's designed to stay in the public eye just long enough to survive the election. You should honestly feel bad for not being more skeptical of it, regardless of your own political leanings or motivations. I'd say the same if this were documents about Le Pen supposedly being 'leaked' on 4chan, or here for that matter.
europe
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Trump, Le Pen and UKIP supporters seem perfectly happy that Putin's people have tried and in many cases succeeded in hacking Democracy around the world. There are costs to letting Putin's policies go unchecked and these poor people are paying them.
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Care,Authority
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Trump, Le Pen and UKIP supporters seem perfectly happy that Putin's people have tried and in many cases succeeded in hacking Democracy around the world. There are costs to letting Putin's policies go unchecked and these poor people are paying them.
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Care
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Trump, Le Pen and UKIP supporters seem perfectly happy that Putin's people have tried and in many cases succeeded in hacking Democracy around the world. There are costs to letting Putin's policies go unchecked and these poor people are paying them.
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I dont consider Macron solidly left, but anything I wrote about Fillon got downvoted. Myself I really love libertarianism and anarchocapitalism
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I dont consider Macron solidly left, but anything I wrote about Fillon got downvoted. Myself I really love libertarianism and anarchocapitalism
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I dont consider Macron solidly left, but anything I wrote about Fillon got downvoted. Myself I really love libertarianism and anarchocapitalism
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I think Le Pen should have the right to publish execution videos, hell I bought all sorts of Faces of Death videos and shit when I was a teenager. But I think posting videos of beheadings is a pretty weak way to argue a political point. We all know terrorists are violent and fucked up, that doesn't mean I need to see it. It's like those disgusting videos PeTA put out of people clubbing seals and eating dogs, it just grosses people out. It doesn't enlighten anybody.
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I think Le Pen should have the right to publish execution videos, hell I bought all sorts of Faces of Death videos and shit when I was a teenager. But I think posting videos of beheadings is a pretty weak way to argue a political point. We all know terrorists are violent and fucked up, that doesn't mean I need to see it. It's like those disgusting videos PeTA put out of people clubbing seals and eating dogs, it just grosses people out. It doesn't enlighten anybody.
worldnews
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Purity
Confident
I think Le Pen should have the right to publish execution videos, hell I bought all sorts of Faces of Death videos and shit when I was a teenager. But I think posting videos of beheadings is a pretty weak way to argue a political point. We all know terrorists are violent and fucked up, that doesn't mean I need to see it. It's like those disgusting videos PeTA put out of people clubbing seals and eating dogs, it just grosses people out. It doesn't enlighten anybody.
worldnews
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Except Frontist aren't the most religious party in France by a long shot. They are ready to persecute Catholics if this means it affects Muslims as well. Especially since the Catholic Church is strongly in favor of helping refugees. Le Pen is a hard-line secularist with some Catholic hypocrisy (like with the debate about nativity scenes in townhalls). This makes sense because France isn't very religious in the first place. So to appeal to the majority politicians usually avoid to be perceived as religious.
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Except Frontist aren't the most religious party in France by a long shot. They are ready to persecute Catholics if this means it affects Muslims as well. Especially since the Catholic Church is strongly in favor of helping refugees. Le Pen is a hard-line secularist with some Catholic hypocrisy (like with the debate about nativity scenes in townhalls). This makes sense because France isn't very religious in the first place. So to appeal to the majority politicians usually avoid to be perceived as religious.
worldnews
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Proportionality,Care,Equality
Confident
Except Frontist aren't the most religious party in France by a long shot. They are ready to persecute Catholics if this means it affects Muslims as well. Especially since the Catholic Church is strongly in favor of helping refugees. Le Pen is a hard-line secularist with some Catholic hypocrisy (like with the debate about nativity scenes in townhalls). This makes sense because France isn't very religious in the first place. So to appeal to the majority politicians usually avoid to be perceived as religious.
worldnews
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Care
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And however flawed or dishonest Macron may be.....it is a far greater act of dishonesty to steal his data and expose it, hoping to change the course of a national election for the purpose of an outside group. That is far far more dangerous than voting for one flawed man.
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And however flawed or dishonest Macron may be.....it is a far greater act of dishonesty to steal his data and expose it, hoping to change the course of a national election for the purpose of an outside group. That is far far more dangerous than voting for one flawed man.
worldnews
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And however flawed or dishonest Macron may be.....it is a far greater act of dishonesty to steal his data and expose it, hoping to change the course of a national election for the purpose of an outside group. That is far far more dangerous than voting for one flawed man.
worldnews
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Thin Morality
Not Confident
There all kinds of economists as well there are all kinds of politicians. But there's nothing populistic with agreeing with Macron on this topic, if you want we can see if it applies to political science definitions. :)
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There all kinds of economists as well there are all kinds of politicians. But there's nothing populistic with agreeing with Macron on this topic, if you want we can see if it applies to political science definitions. :)
europe
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Thin Morality
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There all kinds of economists as well there are all kinds of politicians. But there's nothing populistic with agreeing with Macron on this topic, if you want we can see if it applies to political science definitions. :)
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I think most people here are mistaking Marine Le Pen and Marion Le Pen
worldnews
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Non-Moral
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I think most people here are mistaking Marine Le Pen and Marion Le Pen
worldnews
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Non-Moral
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I think most people here are mistaking Marine Le Pen and Marion Le Pen
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Non-Moral
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The polls had Trump and Hillary within a few % of each other and it turned out to be that close. Macron and Le Pen is not even remotely close.
europe
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The polls had Trump and Hillary within a few % of each other and it turned out to be that close. Macron and Le Pen is not even remotely close.
europe
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Non-Moral
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The polls had Trump and Hillary within a few % of each other and it turned out to be that close. Macron and Le Pen is not even remotely close.
europe
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For sure. There is a tendency for people to believe that politics is almost a sideshow. That what they believe is "logical" and therefore the arc of history bends to it. Brexit, Bernie, Trump, Macron, Corbyn all have one thing in common. They are new and with different ideas (relative to what had been politically possible for the electorate they were seeking).
neoliberal
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For sure. There is a tendency for people to believe that politics is almost a sideshow. That what they believe is "logical" and therefore the arc of history bends to it. Brexit, Bernie, Trump, Macron, Corbyn all have one thing in common. They are new and with different ideas (relative to what had been politically possible for the electorate they were seeking).
neoliberal
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Thin Morality
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For sure. There is a tendency for people to believe that politics is almost a sideshow. That what they believe is "logical" and therefore the arc of history bends to it. Brexit, Bernie, Trump, Macron, Corbyn all have one thing in common. They are new and with different ideas (relative to what had been politically possible for the electorate they were seeking).
neoliberal
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I think they believed Le Pen to be a superhero capable of being the anti-terror Messiah, as if all of those with ill intent would just be like "AW FUCK, NOW HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO VICTIMIZE CIVILIANS?!"
europe
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I think they believed Le Pen to be a superhero capable of being the anti-terror Messiah, as if all of those with ill intent would just be like "AW FUCK, NOW HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO VICTIMIZE CIVILIANS?!"
europe
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I think they believed Le Pen to be a superhero capable of being the anti-terror Messiah, as if all of those with ill intent would just be like "AW FUCK, NOW HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO VICTIMIZE CIVILIANS?!"
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Classical liberalism and Thatcherite ideals are the single most poisonous political ideas in France. Fillon backed off on his promises during the primaries almost immediately.
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Classical liberalism and Thatcherite ideals are the single most poisonous political ideas in France. Fillon backed off on his promises during the primaries almost immediately.
europe
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annotator01
Non-Moral
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Classical liberalism and Thatcherite ideals are the single most poisonous political ideas in France. Fillon backed off on his promises during the primaries almost immediately.
europe
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Non-Moral
Somewhat Confident
Le Pen is not one of those "less governement" conservatives. On the contrary, she's more of an authoritarian,"strong governement" kind of politician. Applying US (my guess) political terms to European parties doesn't work well.
worldnews
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Authority
Confident
Le Pen is not one of those "less governement" conservatives. On the contrary, she's more of an authoritarian,"strong governement" kind of politician. Applying US (my guess) political terms to European parties doesn't work well.
worldnews
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Thin Morality
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Le Pen is not one of those "less governement" conservatives. On the contrary, she's more of an authoritarian,"strong governement" kind of politician. Applying US (my guess) political terms to European parties doesn't work well.
worldnews
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Hamon might well lose, and tbh, I don't even wanna think about a 2nd turn like this.
europe
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Non-Moral
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Hamon might well lose, and tbh, I don't even wanna think about a 2nd turn like this.
europe
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Thin Morality
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Hamon might well lose, and tbh, I don't even wanna think about a 2nd turn like this.
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Go ahead and substantiate your claim that Le Pen is a neo-Nazi. I'll be waiting.
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Non-Moral
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Go ahead and substantiate your claim that Le Pen is a neo-Nazi. I'll be waiting.
worldnews
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Thin Morality
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Go ahead and substantiate your claim that Le Pen is a neo-Nazi. I'll be waiting.
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Non-Moral
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>European (and Canadian) liberalism, however, tend to flirt with ideologies that, to the average american, appears extremist. European liberalism is literally just advocating for free markets. Nothing about European liberalism is extreme, people like Macron, Merkel, Renzi are no different ideologically from Obama or Clinton. Which you sort of allude to when you point out that American liberals are just center-rightists with a superiority complex.
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>European (and Canadian) liberalism, however, tend to flirt with ideologies that, to the average american, appears extremist. European liberalism is literally just advocating for free markets. Nothing about European liberalism is extreme, people like Macron, Merkel, Renzi are no different ideologically from Obama or Clinton. Which you sort of allude to when you point out that American liberals are just center-rightists with a superiority complex.
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Proportionality
Confident
>European (and Canadian) liberalism, however, tend to flirt with ideologies that, to the average american, appears extremist. European liberalism is literally just advocating for free markets. Nothing about European liberalism is extreme, people like Macron, Merkel, Renzi are no different ideologically from Obama or Clinton. Which you sort of allude to when you point out that American liberals are just center-rightists with a superiority complex.
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I still support Wikileaks in principle, but Assange, narcissist that he is, clearly sold out to the unholy alliance of Farage, Trump, Putin, Wilders, Le Pen, and Erdogan. Fuck them all.
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