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Does anyone have a rear wheel for a PD they'd like to part with?
Does anyone know where I might find one salvage?
As long as I'm getting the GIVI luggage for Brunnhilde and have
the room, I thought I'd carry a spare.
Ride Free,
Bill
___________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu prez=BIMC KotV KotRR
DoD #00314 AMA #580924 SPI = 7.18 WMTC #0002 KotD #0001
Yamabeemer fj100gs1200pdr650 Special and a Volvo. What more could anyone ask? | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
Let's fill in some winners here:
| 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
Pretty much like the people who buy the Mazda MX-5 (Miata) today. Small
fun and you can fool yourself (and a lot of other people) that you have the
performance of many far superior (and much more expensive) performnace cars.
| 7 | rec.autos |
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rich@boogie.EBay.Sun.COM | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
The only difference is the time the driver gets loaded. mouse.sys will be
loaded during the config.sys and therefor before the command.com. mouse.com
will be loaded during autoexec.bat and so after the command.com.
mouse.com could be started from the commandline after the booting and it
could - perhaps - be unloaded, if no other driver is loaded after it.
The working of both drivers is totally the same.
When I ran dos, I preferred loading most of the drivers in autoexec.bat,
because some programs won't run with some drivers and I could choose the
ones I needed during startup. But with DRDOS6, this advantage is gone,
because DRDOS lets you choose in config.sys which drivers should be loaded.
Michael | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
reconditioned at a
(still
Well, sounds like we need some kind of a Lemon Law on the hardware
industry. After all it does sound unfair to me for someone that has
paid the price of a new drive for a reconditioned one. What do you
guys think?
| 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
believeing blindly or not. I'm not sure how blindness comes into it. I do > not
deny reason, indeed I insist upon it, but reason only draws conclusions > from
evidence. If you decide in advance that your reason will act only on > the
evidence of the five physical senses, then you cut reason off from any >
possibility of reaching a conclusion outside the physical sphere (beyond the >
rather provocative, if inconclusive, conclusion that the physical sphere > is
not self explanatory).
So your are saying to rely on our feelings and experiences (since
this is the only other source of information left to us).
How can you then convince somebody that your "feelings and experiences"
are the correct ones then if you can't show somebody visible and
measurable effects? If my experiences say that "there exists no god"
and yours says there does, where does that leave us? Since we are only
going on experiences, then both of us are correct within our own personal
realities.
Furthermore, the trouble with "feelings and experiences" is that they
can lead you astray, as the tragic outcome of Waco illustrates. I
am sure that many of Koresh's followers really believed in him but
I think that you and I will agree that they were being misled.
Finally, how on earth do you come to the conclusion that the physical
sphere is not self-explanatory when you only rely on the five senses?
You must be using a definition of "evidence" that I am not familiar with.
To me, evidence is something you can show others -unambiguously- that
what you are saying is true.
However, I agree with you that belief in a diety is a matter of faith.
It is not something you can share around - others must experience it
independantly. Unfortunately, as I have explained above, this puts
belief down to a matter of experience. My impression is that Christians
do not have the monopoly on reason, evidence and faith as far as any of
these things can go.
At the risk of repeating my argument : As I have explained previously,
the trouble is that Moslems, Buddhists, Jews, etc will ALL say that THEY
claim, with good reason, to be a valid system, possessed of the best
evidence, for explaining Gods revelations to man (for Buddhists it
should read "for explaining the non-existence of God"). So not only
must you "prove" your own case, you have to "disprove" theirs.
(alt.messianic is a good place to see people strong in the belief
of their own faiths ... and with their own good reasons)
I know that ALL people can use reason ... I never claimed that they don't.
I just wish to make sure that their arguments are well-founded. It goes
without saying that if I make a blunder that I expect people to correct
me. Once we have all gone through this process of removing the
non-essential and contradictory bits, we should (hopefully) have made
some progress towards the truth.
| 15 | soc.religion.christian |
Excerpts from netnews.alt.atheism: 15-Apr-93 Re: thoughts on christians
by Dave Fuller@portal.hq.vi
I think it'd help if we got a couple good atheists (or even some good,
steadfast agnostics) in some high political offices. When was the last
time we had an (openly) atheist president? Have we ever? (I don't
actually know; these aren't rhetorical questions.) How 'bout some
Supreme court justices?
One thing that really ticked me off a while ago was an ad for a news
program on a local station...The promo said something like "Who are
these cults, and why do they prey on the young?" Ahem. EVER HEAR OF
BAPTISM AT BIRTH? If that isn't preying on the young, I don't know what
is...
I used to be (ack, barf) a Catholic, and was even confirmed...Shortly
thereafter I decided it was a load of BS. My mom, who really insisted
that I continue to go to church, felt it was her duty (!) to bring me up
as a believer! That was one of the more presumptuous things I've heard
in my life. I suggested we go talk to the priest, and she agreed. The
priest was amazingly cool about it...He basically said that if I didn't
believe it, there was no good in forcing it on me. Actually, I guess he
wasn't amazingly cool about it--His response is what you'd hope for
(indeed, expect) from a human being. I s'pose I just _didn't_ expect
it...
I find it absurd that religion exists; Yet, I can also see its
usefulness to people. Facing up to the fact that you're just going to
be worm food in a few decades, and that there isn't some cosmic purpose
to humanity and the universe, can be pretty difficult for some people.
Having a readily-available, pre-digested solution to this is pretty
attractive, if you're either a) gullible enough, b) willing to suspend
your reasoning abilities for the piece of mind, or c) have had the stuff
rammed down your throat for as long as you can remember. Religion in
general provides a nice patch for some human weaknesses; Organized
religion provides a nice way to keep a population under control.
Blech.
Chris
| 0 | alt.atheism |
Most cars have drain petcocks in the radiators, and I've never
seen nor heard of a vandal opening one. I imagine that there
would be an even lower risk with an oil plug because you have
to crawl furthur under the car to open it.
Car vandals are usually real traditional in their methods, and do things
that don't get them dirty, like keying your car, dumping sand, sugar
or mothballs in the gas tank, TPing it, etc.
| 7 | rec.autos |
The investment was there in the form of huge tax breaks, and employer
benfits. You are overlooking the difference that these could have
made to any company. Part of the problem was that few industries
were interested in political settling, as much as profit.
True, which leads to the obvious question, should any investment have
been made there at the taxpayer's expense. Obviously, the answer was
and still is a resounding no.
| 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
Secrecy in Clipper Chip
The serial number of the clipper chip is encrypted with the system key and
transmitted as one part of a three part message.
Presumably the protocol can be recovered (if by nothing else, differential
analysis).
Postulate if you will, a chip (or logic) sitting between the clipper chip
and its communications channel. The purpose of this chip is twofold:
1) Transmit Channel
The spoof chip XORs the 30 bit encrypted serial number with
a secondary keying variable. This renders the serial number
unrecoverable with just the system key
2) Recieve Channel
The spoof chip XORs the incoming encrypted serial number
with a secondary keying variable (assuming the serial number
is necessary for local operation).
This has the net result of hiding the serial number. This gets more
interesting when the number of serial numbers issued becomes large,
making it difficult to distinguish between valid serial numbers and
a spoofed serial number. Without knowing the system key, you could
lie about the serial number, but risk detection of the lie.
IF you had the system key and the encryption algorithm you could
successfully lie with a lower probability of detection by emulating the
format of your own serial number. | 11 | sci.crypt |
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It comes with: install disk
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Halo Desktop Imager (24bit) for windows 3.x
Advanced AutoCAD accelerator (includes Big Picture)
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If interested, please e-mail sunbum@cory.berkeley.edu | 6 | misc.forsale |
According to THE FAN here in T.O., Ottawa has won the Daigle e
sweepstakes. They didn't mention why, but San Jose had more goals
than the Sen-sens, so I have a hunch this is why Ottawa would pick
first..... | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
This is incorrect. Sun has made no such claim regarding Devguide, and as
manager of the Devguide engineering group I can state with authority that
work on Devguide is continuing apace. We had quite a strong show of interest
from the Devguide user community at last week's Solaris Developer's Conference.
Devguide is being advocated not only as a valuable future builder tool, but
as an important bit of transition technology that will help sustain current
customers and facilitate their migration to the COSE Desktop Environment.
If you have specific questions about Devguide availability, etc., you can
contact Tali Aben, our Devguide Product Marketing person, at (415) 336-3536. | 5 | comp.windows.x |
Nonsense. I quite clearly state that it was Greg that made the claim
that Gainey never made an error. And he made the claim. Read below.
From rec.sport.hockey Thu Apr 15 21:22:49 1993
From: gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine)
Message-ID: <1993Apr15.160450.27799@sol.UVic.CA>
[nonsense deleted]
Gainey is the best defensive forward ever. I stand by that assessment.
He was a very good player who belongs in the hall of fame. Did you
ever watch him play? He never made a technical error.
[more nonsense deleted]
To knowledgeable observers of the game my meaning is obvious. Your
hockey education is not my responsibility.
He was just another player. To laud him as anything more I find
bothersome. I hated the Habs. I hated Lafleur until I realized
that he was likely the most aesthetically pleasing player to ever
skate in my lifetime. Why would anyone talk about Gainey?
Did he play hockey at a high level? Was he any good? If not, why
would you bother to bring JC up? I am talking about hockey players
here. If you can't follow the conversation don't follow up. As I
said previously, it is not my responsibility to educate you.
Sure. Two journeymen. Big deal. Neither one of them is worth
discussing.
That is an excellent idea and if I decide to waste any more time
responding to any of your, or Greg's, postings then I will be sure
to implement that very macro.
Tarasov claimed that Gainey was a "hockey god." And Greg ate it up.
And that is what this thread is all about. If you didn't know
that then why are you responding?
And as for "blanket disregard for these individuals", I can remember
Leaf teams, purely populated by such "individuals", winning four
Stanley Cups. Teams. No one ran around telling us that George
Armstrong was the best hockey player in the world.
Right. I had to get to the end of your posting before I realized you were
a complete joke.
In the future, if you are going to respond to my postings I would appreciate
it if you could present a cogent argument supported by facts gleaned from a
version of reality that most of the rest of us would recognize.
cordially, as always,
rm
| 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
I have the ARRL Handbook for the Radio AMateur, and I'm getting the
Solid STate Design for the Radio Amateur. | 12 | sci.electronics |
Sorry to put a damper on your plans, but I was there three weeks ago and
it wasn't there. Not that I would have known to look for it, of course,
but I combed the space exhibits pretty thoroughly and something like that
would have caught my attention instantly.
| 14 | sci.space |
Hi !
I am interested in the source of FEAL encryption algorithm.
Does someone of you know where I can get the source from, or
where I can find documentation about FEAL.
Thanks in advance
Ciao Hermann | 11 | sci.crypt |
That's right. Humans have gone somewhat beyond this though. Perhaps
our goal is one of self-actualization.
Now you are letting an omniscient being give information to me. This
was not part of the original premise.
Which type of morality are you talking about? In a natural sense, it
is not at all immoral to harm another species (as long as it doesn't
adversely affect your own, I guess). | 0 | alt.atheism |
taken.
Hum, I guess this has some significance as opposed to having an incredible
drop during the last days in office. Unfortuantely having a loss in the
polls during the last days of office usually means no re-election. Ask
George.
Good one, Roooster. Thats hard to top. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
I have the following items for sale.
Buyer pays the shipping costs.
Hardware is new and unused unless marked otherwise.
All software includes original disks and manuals.
No reasonable offers refused.
Send offers/questions to cpc3@po.cwru.edu
Hardware
---------
Hercules Graphics Card - mono graphics and printer ports
Hercules Color Card - color graphics and printer ports
Teac 1.2MB 5.25" floppy drive - doesn't work, sold as is for reapir or
parts
IBM ASYNC card - serial card for PC/XT/AT machines, comes with support
software
Kraft KC10 joystick - works with PC compatibles and Apple II series (not
Mac)
360K 5.25" floppy disks - over 200 bulk-grade disks
2 floppy disk storage boxes - each holds 60 5.25" disks, one has a lock
on it
Software
---------
Microsoft Macro Assembler 5.0 and 5.1 update - large manual and tutorial
included
Sideways 3.0 - rotates wide spreadsheets 90 degrees to print on 1 page
Games
------
WolfPack - WWII submarine simultaion
Space Station Oblivion - arcade-style game similar to Spectre
Demon Stalkers - dungeon game, like Gauntlet
Zork II, Moonmist, Ballyhoo - Infocom adventure/mystery games
Jack Nicklaus' Unlimited Golf and Course Design - excellent golf game
War In Middle Earth - similar to D&D games, based on Tolkien's "The
Hobbit"
Sargon 4 - excellent chess game, play against someone or against computer
Silent Service II - submarine simulation
| 6 | misc.forsale |
As quoted from <1993Apr18.000152.2339@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> by jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu:
Kind of sounds like Plessy v. Ferguson, huh? Of course as in that case,
things change, huh?
No, if your little fantasy comes to pass, the country will have gone
TOWARD the KKK. You're of course being a little disengenuous. Violent
solutions are never passe FOR THE GOVERNMENT and CRIMINALS (who frequently)
cannot be distinguished).
"Avoid situations which encourage criminals"? You mean don't be a woman?
Don't be Black? Don't be gay? I'm quite certain that having a surfeit of
unarmed victims will discourage your beloved KKK from engaging in "violent
solutions"....
| 16 | talk.politics.guns |
[ Article crossposted from misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone ]
[ Author was Mark Wilson ]
[ Posted on Fri, 16 Apr 1993 13:18:42 GMT ]
UPDATE ("for sale" items):
(All plus shipping)
1. CORE 72Mb Hard drive, model AT72, works fine,
5 1/4" full-height, reduced to $90
2. MFM controller for the above, would like to sell
with above, have $15 asking price,
but will sell with #1 above for $100 combined.
3. AT-style case $10 (in process of selling)
4. VGA card, 512K, now asking $25
5. 386 Max, version 6.0, now asking $25
Please email mark@ocsmd.ocs.com or use phone #s below.
- Mark
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(Try email address mark@ocsmd.ocs.com....)
This file .disclaims everything signed with my .signature, I .mean it! | 6 | misc.forsale |
People are seeming to be less concerned about Kariya's size as he leads
teams to championships (World Junior and US College) and collects
awards...everyone is watching with interest as to how he will perform
on left wing with Eric Lindros and Mark Recchi at the world
championships.
4 months of go...chances were not very good that he would go in the
top five...now it has become probable...a great world championship
could put him in the top 3 with Daigle and Pronger. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
Tennessee, at least, does not require any sort of safety class to
get a driver's license. All that is required is one twenty question
quiz and to drive a car around the block without crashing.
In all probability, no you don't. You are required to be licensed
to drive on public roads. A license is not necessary on private property.
Most states do not require the registration of cars that are
not used on public roads. Those that do (California I know of) do
so for tax purposes more than anything else.
Many states do not currently require this, and most, again,
only make this requirement for public roads. A car sitting unused
is not required to have insurance.
The two are not the same, as I pointed out above. There are
significant difference between making rules for *use on public property*
and *making rules for ownership*.
The other half of the objection is trust. Similar things to this
have been tried in many local jurisdications across the country, and
have been abused in far too many cases. Safety classes which are
never sheduled, never funded, or only one or two is held a year for
a limited number of participants. Registration lists in New York,
Chicago, and California have been used for confiscation. *Many* gun
owners would, in theory, support these planes. (Although the
numbers overwhelmingly show that competence is not the problem, that
intentional misuse is). They've simply seen it abused and are leery of
the next person who comes down the pike with a "reasonable" suggestion
they've already seen abused.
| 16 | talk.politics.guns |
I understand Caddy is working on one, double battery, super high perf
engine, more gauges, a bit 'stretched', etc, lots of communication equipment,
the works. Color selection is limited though.
The problem is that the guy at 1600 Penn. Avenue is about to get it
(Pres. Clinton) (Last time it was a Lincoln, this time a Caddy).
Not to my knowledge; I know GM does conversion work for things like
hot climates (i.e. the Chevy Caprices sold to the Middle East) but
things like that are always done by third parties, NOT the manufacturer.
Maybe you will need to buy a specific package that has beefed-up everything,
perhaps the police cruiser package on the Caprice/Crown Vic and start from
there.
"And I wuz drivin' along in my armored Seville STS and this punk pulls out
of nowhere with an RPG (Rocket Propelled Grenade) but the bulletproof
windshield stopped him" :-) Don't think many people on the net have a need
for bulletproof cars.
Check with local armored service companies/security/bodyguard places. They'd
know best. I think your average luxury car dealer will have a coronary if
you told them "I'll take the blue Caprice, with options FZ01 (Fuzzy Dice),
PR11 (power everything), and AR007 (Armor).
I believe an article on the conversion process appeared in the car press within
the last few months.
Spiros | 7 | rec.autos |
I am in need of the Driver for the Bernoulli Cartridge on a DataFrame
XP60+B. The hard disk on the system got fried and I haven't been able to
locate the original disks. If anyone has it or know where I can get this
please let me know via e-mail.
Thanks in advance.
Wayne Lyle
-- | 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
OK, the small programme that can be used to switch a SunCD drive into
2048 bytes/block mode for use with MSDOS/Adaptec/APSI it now available
by 'ftp' from
ftp.novell.de (193.97.1.1) pub/pc/adaptec/cdblksize.zip | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
I've been told that Panasonic has uploaded some to Compu$erve, but I
don't have a CIS account. I just use the Epson FX-80 driver myself,
and it comes out very pretty (if very slowly) on my 1080i. | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Configuration of IDE Harddisks
==============================
last update: 14.4.1993
collected by Carsten Grammes (ph12hucg@rz.uni-sb.de)
and published regularly on comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is explicitly NO WARRANTY
that the given settings are correct or harmless. (I only collect, I do
not check for myself!!!). There is always the possibility that the
settings may destroy your hardware!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since I hope however that only well-minded people undergo the effort of
posting their settings the chance of applicability exists. If you should
agree or disagree with some setting, let me know immediately in order
to update the list.
If you possess a HD not mentioned here of which you know BIOS and/or
jumper settings, please mail them to me for the next update of the list!
Only IDE (AT-Bus) Harddisks will be accounted for.
If not specified the Landing Zone should be set equal to the number of
cylinders. If not specified the 'Write Precompensation' should be set
65535. (There are BIOSes that don't even ask for it).
Another statement (maybe right):
IDE harddisk don't have Precomp and LZone. The precomp is a built-in parameter
and lzone isn't used because most if not every IDE disk has autopark.
The jumpers' names are given as printed on the HD's board, often only a
jumper number (JP12 means the jumper '12'). A zero means that the jumper
is left open, a one means that the jumper is closed.
*************************** C O N N E R ***************************
Conner Peripherals Drive Geometry
IDE/AT
Conner drives are low level formatted at the factory. It is only necessary
to run SETUP, FDISK, and DOS FORMAT.
Model Heads Cylinders Sectors PComp L-Zone Type Table LED
CP2034 2 823 38 0 823 *UT 3 N/A
CP2064 4 823 38 0 823 *UT 3 N/A
CP2084 8 548 38 0 548 *UT 3 N/A
CP3184 6 832 33 0 832 *UT 1 A
CP3104 8 776 33 0 776 *UT 1 A
CP3111 8 833 33 0 833 *UT 1 A(?)
CP3204 16 683 38 0 683 *UT 2 B
CP30064 4 762 39 0 762 *UT 2 B
CP30084 8 526 39 0 526 *UT 2 B
CP30104 8 762 39 0 762 *UT 2 B
CP30084E 4 903 46 0 903 *UT 3 C
CP30174E 8 903 46 0 903 *UT 3 C
CP30204 16 683 38 0 683 *UT 3 C
CP3304 16 659 63 0 659 *UT 3 D
CP3364 16 702 63 0 702 *UT 3 D
CP3504 16 987 63 0 987 *UT 3 D
CP3554 16 1054 63 0 1054 *UT 3 B
Table 1 Table 2
Jumper Settings Jumper Settings
Single Drive = Jumper ACT and C/D Single Drive = Jumper C/D
Master Drive = Jumper ACT, C/D and DSP Master Drive = Jumper C/D & DSP
Slave Drive = No jumpers installed Slave Drive = No jumpers installed
Table 3
All Conner 20 Mbyte drives use
Jumper Settings Drive type 2. All Conner 40
Mbyte drives use Drive type 17.
Single & Master Drive = Jumper C/D
Slave Drive = No jumpers installed *UT = Universal translate.
Select a drive type that is
close to but does not exceed
the megabyte capacity of the
drive. The drive will
translate to the megabyte
capacity that you have
selected.
LED
A: B: C: D:
J-4 J-5 J-5 J-3
Pin 1 = + Pin 3 = + Pin 3 = - Pin 3 = +
Pin 2 = - Pin 4 = - Pin 4 = - Pin 4 = -
*************************** F U J I T S U ***************************
DETAILS OF FUJITSU DRIVES M261xT (Standard)
M2614ET M2613ET M2612ET M2611T
Heads (physical) 8 6 4 2
Cyl (physical) 1334 1334 1334 1334
Sec/trk 33 33 33 33
Speed (rpm) 3490 3490 3490 3490
Capacity 180MB 135MB 90MB 45MB
+-----------------------------------------------+
| |
+--+ |
PSU | | CNH-2 |
+--+ 1 |
1 | | . LED |
| | CNH-1 9 CNH-3 Connector |
| | 1 6..1 o o |
40-way | | . | | |
IDE | | . |
| | . |
| | 12 |
+--+ |
+-----------------------------------------------+
Pin Function
Position
* 1- 2 Active mode
2- 3 Slave present mode
4- 5 Pin 27=IOCHRDY
CNH-1 JUMPERS * 5- 6 Pin 27=RESERVED
7- 8 2 drive system
* 8- 9 1 drive system
10-11 Pin 29=IRQ14 : Pin 31=RESERVED
* 11-12 Pin 31=IRQ14 : Pin 29=RESERVED
Pin Function
Position
1- 2 SLAVE drive mode
CNH-2 JUMPERS * 4- 5 MASTER drive mode
7- 8 ECC 4 bytes
* 8- 9 ECC 7 bytes
Pin Function
Position
1- 2 Write protect enabled
CNH-3 JUMPERS * 2- 3 Write protect disabled
4- 5 -6 Reserved
Key: * (I guess!) marks factory default setting for jumper
BIOS SETTINGS
BIOS setting for the M2614ET in my system is 667 cylinders, 33 sectors
and 16 heads.
MODEL CYLINDERS HEADS SECTORS CAPACITY (Million bytes)
M2622T 1013 10 63 326.75
M2623T 1002 13 63 420.16
M2624T 995 16 63 513.51
There are 6 switches on the switch block on these drives. Only 4 of
them have a use that I am aware of (from my M2624T manual):
Master/Slave Master (*) SW1-5 OFF
Slave SW1-5 ON
ECC bytes 4 bytes (*) SW1-4 OFF
7 bytes SW1-4 ON
Write Protect Disabled (*) SW1-3 OFF
Enabled SW1-3 ON
IO Channel Ready Disabled (*) SW1-1 OFF
Enabled SW1-1 ON
I have no idea about the function of SW1-2 and SW1-6. The values
listed with a (*) are the factory default settings.
*************************** K A L O K ***************************
KALOK KL3100 105 MB
BIOS: cyl 979 heads 6 sectors 35
KALOK KL3120 120 MB
BIOS: Cyl 981 heads 6 sectors 40
The following jumper settings have been reported for KL3100 but are probably
also valid for other Kalok drives.
Single HD:
o o o o o
o o o o-o <-- same row as pin 1 of the IDE connector.
Master (disk 1):
o o o o o
|
o o o o o
Slave:
o o o o o
|
o o o o o
These 5 pairs of pins are at the righthand side of the disk.
*************************** M A X T O R ***************************
Model Cyls Heads Sectors Precomp Landing Zone
---------- ----- ----- ------- ------- ------------
LXT-200A 816 15 32 0 816
LXT-213A 683 16 38 0 683
LXT-340A 654 16 63 0 654
LXT437A 842 16 63 0 842
LXT535A 1036 16 63 0 1024
Jumpers are as follows:
The bottom of the drive looks like this (well, sort of):
+[POWER] [IDE CONNECTOR]-----+
Single drive Dual Drive System
Pin numbers Jumper System Master Slave
----------- ------ ------------ ------ -----
1-2 Slave Drive remove remove install
3-4 Activity LED optional optional optional
5-6 Slave Present remove remove optional
7-8 Master Drive remove install remove
9-10 Sync Spindle remove (n/a) optional* remove
* only one drive (the master) in an array should have this jumper installed.
Maxtor 7060A 16 467 17 62,0 J14 closed, J13 closed
Maxtor 7060A 7 1024 17 59,5 J14 open, J13 open
Maxtor 7060A 4 762 39 58,0 J14 closed, J13 open
Maxtor 7060A 8 925 17 57,9 J14 open, J13 closed
Maxtor 7120A 16 936 17 124,3 J14 closed, J13 closed
Maxtor 7120A 14 1024 17 119,0 j14 open, J13 open
Maxtor 7120A 8 762 39 116,0 J14 closed, J13 open
Maxtor 7120A 15 900 17 112,0 J14 open, J13 closed
Maxtor 7120A 8 824 33 106,2 J14
Jumpers for the above 2 drives:
J11 I/O-channel ready ( open: disabled; close: enabled )
J13 see above
J14 see above
J15 operation-status ( open: normal; close: factory )
J J J J J
2 1 1 1 1
0 9 8 7 6
Power data-cable
J16: Idle mode latch ( open: disabled; close: enabled )
J17: drive model ( open: 7060A; close 7120A )
J18: ECC Bytes ( open: 7 bytes; close: 4 bytes )
Master/Slave: drive is master and alone : J20 closed, J19 closed
drive is master of two drives: J20 closed, J19 open
drive is slave of two drives : J20 open , J19 closed
Maxtor 7213A
Default (power-up) AT BIOS Translation Parameters (others possible)
Cyl Hds SpT MBytes
683 16 38 212
There are two sets of jumpers. A set of 5 and a set of
4. With the power and IDE connector toward you, the set of 5 is
numbered (left to right) J16 - J20 , and the set of 4 is numbered
(bottom to top) J22-J25.
The only jumper of normal interest is J20. Jumper it for only
drive in a single drive system, or master drive in a dual drive
system.
Remove the jumper J20 for slave drive in a dual drive system.
J19 is a dummy and may be used to store the spare shunt if the
drive is configured for a slave mode.
Jumpers J17, J18, J24, J25 are factory reserved. Abnormal operation
may occur if jumpered.
Jumper 22 is sync spindle enabled/disabled (open=disabled)
Jumper 23 is sync slave/master (open=slave)
Jumper 16 is I/O Channel Ready (open=disabled)
Maxtor 7245A (245Mb IDE; self-parking; Universal Translate):
Drive type : User defineable
Cyl Hds WPC LZ S/T
967 16 0 0 31 (WPC and LZ optional)
Master(2): J20 closed
Slave(2): J20 open (use J19 for shunt storage)
Single: J20 closed
********************** M I C R O P O L I S ****************************
Drive 2105A 2112A
----------------------------------------
Unformatted MB 647 1220
Formatted MB 560 1050
Platters 5 8
Heads 8 15
Cylinders 1760 1760
----------------------------------------
Performance (both):
Track to track (read) 1.5 msec
Track to track (write) 2.5 msec
Average 10 msec
Max 25 msec
Avg Rotational Latency 5.56 msec
Rotational speed 5400 rpm (+/- 5%)
Data Transfer Rate upto 5Mbytes/sec
Internal data rate 24-40 Mbits/sec
BIOS Settings:
2105A 1084 cyl 16 heads 63 sectors
2112A* master 1024 cyl 16 heads 63 sectors
slave 1010 cyl 16 heads 63 sectors
* the 2112A emulates both master and slave
Jumpers (labelled J6 on the drive)
----
|oo| W1\ only these 2 are used
|oo| W2/
|oo|
|oo|
|oo|
----
W2 W1
-- --
in in 2112A only - drive emulates both master + slave
in out Drive is master, slave is present
out in Drive is slave
out out Drive is master, no slave present (ie single drive)
********************** M I C R O S C I E N C E ****************************
MicroScience
Model: 7100-00
Heads: 7
Cylinders: 855
S/T: 35 (?)
Size: 105M
Model # 8040-00.
Size 40M 5hd/17sec/977cyl
********************** M I N I S C R I B E ****************************
Miniscribe
MODEL AT CAP CYC H RWC WPC ENC RATE ACCESS SPT COMMENTS
8225AT 3.5" 21 745 2 - - 8 28 MS 28
8051AT 3.5" 42 745 4 - - 8 28 MS 28
8450AT 3.5" 42 745 4 - - 8 40 MS 28
Master(2): 5-6
Slave(2): 1-2
Single: 1-3 (shunt storage)
*************************** N E C *********************************
NEC D3735, 40 MB
BIOS: Cyl 537 Head 4 sect 41
NEC D3755, 105 MB
BIOS: Cyl 625 Head 8 sect 41
NEC D3741, 44 MB
BIOS: Cyl 423 Head 8 sect 26 WPcom 0 LZone 424
Jumper JP12 JP13 (for all above NEC drives)
Single 0 0
Master 1 0
Slave 1 1
There have been reported difficulties in using WD Caviar as Master and
NEC drives as slave - the other way it works.
*************************** Q U A N T U M *************************
Logical Specs for Quantum AT Drives
COMPLIMENTS OF COMPUTER BROKERS OF CANADA
Model Cap Avg Acc Cylinders Heads Sectors/Track
(MB) (ms)
40AT 42 19 965 5 17
80AT 84 19 965 10 17
120AT 120 15 814 9 32
170AT 168 15 968 10 34
210AT 209 15 873 13 36
425AT 426 14 1021 16 51
LPS 52AT 52 17 751 8 17
LPS 80AT 83 17 611 16 17
LPS 105AT 105 17 755 16 17
LPS 120AT 122 16 901 5 53
LPS 240AT 245 16 723 13 51
=================================================
Legend: 1=Jumper Installed 0=No Jumper
=================================================
40 & 80 AT Jumpers
DS SS Meaning
1 0 Single drive configuration
1 1 Master of dual drive
0 0 Slave of dual drive
0 1 Self-Seek Test
=======================================================
120, 170, 210 & 425 AT Jumpers
DS SP SS Meaning
0 0 0 Slave when the Master is Quantum PRODRIVE other than 40/80A
0 0 1 Slave in PRODRIVE 40/80A mode
0 1 0 Slave when Master is non Quantum Drive
0 1 1 Not Used
1 0 1 Master drive PDIAG mode checking DASP for slave
1 1 0 Master in PDIAG mode using SP to check if slave present
1 1 1 Master in 40/80A mode using SP to check if slave present
1 0 0 Single drive
=======================================================
LPS 52, 80, 105, 120 & 240 AT Jumpers
DS SP DM* Meaning
0 0 0 Slave in standard PDIAG mode for compatibility with drives that use
PDIAG-line to handle Master/Slave communications
0 0 1 Slave in PRODRIVE 40/80A mode compat. without using PDIAG line
0 1 0 Self Test
0 1 1 Self Test
1 0 0 Master in PDIAG mode using DASP to check for Slave
1 0 1 Master in 40/80A Mode using DASP to check for Slave
1 1 0 Master in PDIAG mode using SP to check for Slave without
checking DASP
1 1 1 Master in 40/80A mode using SP to check for Slave without
checking DASP
======================================================================
* While my Spec form marked the jumper name DM, it is labeled as CS on
my LPS 240AT drive.
The QUANTUM ELS series:
Model Cap Avg Acc Cylinders Heads Sectors/Track
(MB) (ms)
ELS42AT 42 - 968 5 17
ELS85AT 85 - 977 10 17
ELS127AT 127 - 919 16 17
ELS170AT 170 - 1011 15 22
Write precomp = 0 for all Quantum drives ( probably no significance)
Landing Zone = Cylinders
Straps: If an ELS drive is
master only, use DS
master with slave, DS or, DS and SP in some cases
slave, no strap
*************************** R O D I M E *********************************
Information for RO 3008A and RO 3009A series hard disk drives:
Drive Types
Model Cyls Hds Sectors/Trk No. blocks Formatted Cap.
------- ---- --- ----------- ---------- --------------
RO3058A 868 3 34 88,536 45.33 MByets
RO3088A 868 5 34 147,560 75.55 MByets
RO3095A 923 5 34 156,910 80.33 MByets
RO3128A 868 7 34 206,584 105.77 MByets
RO3135A 923 7 34 219,674 112.47 MByets
RO3059A 217 15 28 91,158 46.67 MByets
RO3089A 325 15 28 136,737 70.00 MByets
RO3129A 492 15 28 206,645 105.80 MByets
RO3139A 523 15 28 219,735 112.50 MByets
RO3209A 759 15 28 319,053 163.35 MByets
RO3259A 976 15 28 410,211 210.02 MByets
Link Options
In order to install the Rodime Ro 3000A series drives the dumpers for
the single/dual drive and LED operation on the drive need to be set as
described in the relevant product specification.
I a single drive environment the drive is described as a Master.
In a dual drive environment the drives are described as a Master and a
Slave. This is due to the protocal the takes place between the two drives
when performing diagnostics.
There are four links, LK1, LK2, LK4 and LK5, adjacent to the 40 way
interface connector. They have the following functions and are described
in order as viewed from the end of the drive, with the first jumper
described nearest the 40 way interface connector.
LK2: LED
When fitted, this jumper connects the LED drive to pin 39 of the
interface. This allows a LED to be connected to the interface. An
external current limiting resistor needs to be fitted in series with
the LED when this option is selected. The value of the resistor will
be dependant on the LED type chosen but will be in the range of 130
Ohms ot 220 Ohms.
LK1: Dual Drives
This jumper must be fitted when two drives are attached to a single
bus. It fallows communication across the 40 way interface connector,
indicating, to the Master drive, the presence of a Slave.
LK4: Master
When fitted this signifies that the drive jumpered is a Master. If
there are two drives connected on a single bus then only one may be
jumpered in this way.
LK5: IOChRdy
When fitted this connects the IOChRdy signal to the drive, it is
fitted when the drive is used in host systems that have a higher
data transfer rate than the drive i.e. greater than 4 MBytes per
second when using 1:1 interleave. This jumper is not normally
fitted as most hosts transfer at a lower rate than 4 MBytes per
second.
There are four possible Master/Slave configurations in which a drive(s)
may be jumpered:
Master, single drive with LED on interface LK2 & LK4 fitted.
Master, single drive without LED on interface LK4 only fitted.
Master, dual drive without LED on interface LK4 & LK1 fitted.
Slave, dual drive without LED on interface No jumpers fitted.
Master, dual drive with LED on interface LK4, LK1 & LK2 fitted.
Slave, dual drive with LED on interface LK2 only fitted.
The Master drive will delay power-up for approximately two seconds to
reduce power surges in applications where dual drives are used.
The other connections for a LED will be found close to the 28 way
connector at the other end of the drive. This LED driver is not affected
by the link options. An internal current limiting resistor is on the
drive for this LED driver. Refer to the product specification for further
details.
*************************** S E A G A T E *************************
There is a list of most Seagate HD (including MFM, SCSI, ESDIand IDE) on
every Simtel mirror under
/msdos/dskutl/1seagate.zip
It contains info about the following drives:
st1144a st138a st274a st3283a
st1057a st1156a st1400a st280a st351ax
st1090a st1162a st1401a st3051a st9051a
st1102a st1186a st1480a st3096a st9077a
st1111a st1201a st157a st3120a st9096a
st1126a st1239a st2274a st3144a st9144a
st1133a st125a st2383a st325ax
********************* T E A C **************
Model: SD-3105
Cyls. Heads Sect/T PreCmp LZone Capacity
------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ---------
Physical 1282 4 40 - - 105021440
BIOS (AMI) 641 8 40 0 0 105021440 (100.2M)
(Award) 926 13 17 0 0 104778752 (99.9M)
(Phoenix) 776 8 33 0 0 104890368 (100.0M)
Connectors and Jumpers:
+----+ 1 Jumper Function
|....| +---+ +-------/ /---+ 2 0 0 ON: -ACT selected (ext.LED)
| | |...| |::::::/ /::::| :::: OFF: -SLV PRESENT selected
+----+ +---+ +-----/ /-----+ 3 1 1 ON: Two HDD's
J2 J7 40 J1 ---- OFF: Single HDD
Power (Power) Signal Jumpers 2 ON: Master (/Single)
OFF: Slave (with 2 units used)
3 ON: -I/O CH RDY not output
OFF: -I/O CH RDY is output
Master Slave Settings:
Jumper no.: 1 2
-----------------------
Single....: 0 1 1, ON = jumpered
Master....: 1 1 0, OFF = not jumpered
Slave.....: 1 0
********************* W E S T E R N D I G I T A L **************
Caviar series:
Name Size (Mb) Cylinders Heads Sectors
----------------------------------------------------
WDAC140 40.7 980 5 17
WDAC280 81.3 980 10 17
WDAC2120 119.0 1024 14 17
WDAC2170 162.7 1010 6 55
WDAC2200 202.8 989 12 35
WDAC2340 325.4 1010 12 55
Please note that these are the *recommended* CMOS parameters. All the disks
support so-called dynamic translation, and should thus be able to work with
any parameters having fewer sectors than the total number of sectors on
the disk.
Now, according to the manual, the jumper settings are as follows:
Jumper CP MA SL
-------------------------------------------------
Single 0 0 0
Master 0 1 0
Slave 0 0 1
Slave with Conner CP342 or CP3022 1 0 1
Maybe there are 2 kinds of Caviar's floating around:
If your jumpers read MA SL and SI then use:
Jumper SI MA SL
Single 1 0 0
Master 0 1 0
Slave 0 0 1
There have been reported difficulties in using WD Caviar as Master and
NEC drives as slave - the other way it works.
WD93044-A (40 MB)
BIOS-Settings
977 cyln, 5 heads, 17 sect, LZone: 977 ( wenn sie sie braucht )
+-------+ +---+---+---+ 1: drive is master
+-------+ +---+---+---+ 3: second drive is a conner-drive
No jumper set: this is the only drive.
******************** Useful telephone numbers... ********************
Miniscribe:
303-651-6000
Maxtor:
Info/tech support: 800-262-9867
FAX-back: 303-678-2618
BBS: 303-678-2222
They list their 800 number as 1(800)2-MAXTOR.
Quantum:
408-894-4000
408-944-0410 (Support)
408-894-3218 (FAX)
408-894-3214 (BBS)
Seagate:
Info/tech support: 408-438-8222
FAX-back: 408-438-2620
BBS: 408-438-8771
******************* last but not least *****************
If I could help you with my little collection and if you live in a
part of the world far away from me, how about a postcard for my pinboard?
I will surely answer! | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Where did you hear this? I seem to have missed it.
No. Will L.A. burn? No. (Regardless of the verdict.)
Count your blessings. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
from Dean:
Yes, you're right. After going home and reading the paper, I got the
full details. That's what I get for making a post based on WDUQ's news.
I should know by now they get just about every sports related item wrong. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
Nor mine, either of them! | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
# ## Face it, Clayton, he was not found guilty, and so what if gays sometimes
# ## make it consensually with 16 year old boys. There ARE 16 year old gays, you
# ## know. And as I recall, the case of the state rested on the testimony of one
# ## "victim" who declined to testify, even under threat. I have had teens since
# ## I was 40, and so have a lot of people. Face it Clayton, you're just a jerk!
# ## -RSW
# ## --
# ## * Richard STEVEn Walz rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (408) 429-1200 *
# ## * 515 Maple Street #1 * Without safe and free abortion women are *
# ## * Santa Cruz, CA 95060 organ-surrogates to unwanted parasites.* *
# #
# #I am always amazed to see people admit to breaking the law -- and
# #putting their address in the signature. Please tell us more about
# #this. Were they 13? 14? Would you like to make a statement for
# #the district attorney?
#
# I had sex with a 13 year old boy, it was great, we did *everything*,
# well, a hell of a lot. It was fun anyway. Oh, and before you turn
# purple with rage I was 12 at the time.
# #--
# #Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
The Walz monster above, however, was past 40 when he molested these
kids, as he says above. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
Subject says it all. Do any exist? Are they shareware? Where?
Phil Trodwell | 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
: Can anyone tell me where to find a MPEG viewer (either DOS or
: Windows).
: Thanks in advance.
: --
: Alan M. Jackson Mail : ajackson@cch.cov.ac.uk
: Liverpool Football Club - Simply The Best
: "You'll Never Walk Alone"
You can find a Windows MPEG viewer at wuarchive.wustl.edu in the
mirrors/msdos/windows3 directory.
-- | 1 | comp.graphics |
Again, Mr. Frank has come to the rescue with his cool headed reason. How
about, "One charge per victim?" Of course I'll think about it in a few days
and find a case where this doesn't apply either.
What the heck, I don't study law, I just hate lawyers. :)
| 18 | talk.politics.misc |
Dynamic RAM is not based on flip-flops; there's basically a single
transistor and capacitor to store each bit! Static RAM is based on
flip-flops, and is much more expensive and much less dense. And
neither has any parts that "move", if electrons and thermal expansion
are ignored...
Chris
| 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
7 | rec.autos |
|
I think, as do the owners, that hockey will do well in Miami since there
is a lot of people from the Northeast that spend their winters in
Florida every year. As for the coverage, someone will have to come up
with some money for that since broadcast rights can be expensive!
Just my $0.02!
Dale | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
For a commerical package try WAVE from Precision Visuals
505-530-6563
For a free package try KHOROS from University of New Mexico
508-277-6563
ftp from
ptrg.eece.unm.edu
Login in anonyomus or ftp with a valid email address as the password
cd /pub/khoros/release
That will get you to the right place. | 1 | comp.graphics |
I heard FASTMicro went out of business. Is this true?
They don't answer their 800 number. It's 800-821-9000.
| 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Was the ABC coverage of the Kings/Flames game supposed to be the
way it was shown in BC with CBC overriding the ABC coverage? When I flipped
to ABC, it was the same commentators, same commercials even. My question
is: Was this the real ABC coverage or did CBC just "black out" the
ABC coverage for its own?
comment:
CBC had a great chance for some double headers: Toronto/Detroit
and Vancouver/Winnipeg, but today they said that the East gets the Leafs
and the West get the Vancouver game. I thought that they would show them
both. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
The actual algorithm is classified, however, their main thrust here is
for cellular phones, and encryption is only over the radio end, not
end to end, I think. End to end will come later.
And of course you have to identify yourself to the phone company, and
since the phone company complies with court orders, they will know the
magic number of your chip when they sign out a warrant on you, and
then can present the warrant to the key escrow house. | 11 | sci.crypt |
Does it do it to all tapes? Were the two tapes that it unwound of the same
type from the same batch? The reason I ask is that I bought some generic tapes
that did this and found that the tape markers were not fully punched out and
had closed the little marker hole. It was only on a few tapes of a set.
Did you open up the tape cartridge and put the tape back on the reels?
If you have not yet, open it up by removing the two screws on the bottom of
the tape cartridge and snap the plastic shell away from the metal base.
As you are pulling the tape through the assembly try not to touch any more
than you have to. As you are doing it, look for a couple of little holes in
the tape. These are the marker holes which let the tape drive know when it is
at the end of the tape. The holes are spaced a couple of inches apart. My best
guess is that the drive finds the first marker and then stops on the second
marker?
Anyhow, If the tape has the holes, then check to see if the mirror on the tape
is clean. The function of the mirror is to detect the marker holes. The
tape drive shines a light at the mirror and has a pickup in the area where
the reflection would come out. When the hole goes by, the pickup detects the
light that was allowed to pass and it knows when to stop. If the mirror is dirty
or out of alighment (unlikely since it is made into the case) you might have
a problem detecting the end of the tape.
If the tape drive does it on all tapes and the tapes all look good, then either
the pickup or the LED of the sensor system has failed or is dirty. If you open
the drive door you will see the sensor assembly to the left of the R/W head
assembly. If it looks clean and nothing is in its way, then the drive may
need to be serviced. It is possible that the LED is burned out or the sensor
is out.
If it is still in warranty, you might be able to send it back to CMS for
repair.
---
Scott Hiles
whiles@relay.nswc.navy.mil | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Interesting. Does she know you have placed this info request on the
net for the world to see? If not, how do you think she would react
if she found out? Why would you accept the advice of unknown entities
rather than a counselor?
See the counselor. | 13 | sci.med |
Seeing as Motif has been adopted by Sun, IBM, HP +++ (can't remeber the
other members in the recent announcement), I'm sure you'll see it on
virtually every workstation (ie. Sun, IBM, HP and DEC must make up the
**VAST** majority of all hardware).
Ports of Motif to both 386BSD and Linux are available for a fee of about
$100. This is cost recovery for the person who bought the rights to
redistribute. The activity in both the BSD and Linux news groups
pertaining to Motif has been high.
I can't see why. If just about every workstation will come with Motif
by default and you can buy it for under $100 for the "free" UNIX
platforms, I can't see this causing major problems.
Side Note :
---------
All the X based code I am writing (and will distribute freely when
completed) is based on Motif because from a programmatic and also "look
and feel" point of view I like it the best (no flames on this one
please).
bambi | 5 | comp.windows.x |
It seems radio reports were overly optimistic. All Clinton wants to
cut is $2.5 Billion for community block grants, keeping in summer jobs.
Hmmm, well, looks like we need to keep up the pressure on our
congresspersons. | 18 | talk.politics.misc |
Jammer !
Dit is geen fantastische advertentie over nep-rolexen
maar een evenzo duidelijke mededeling hieromtrent :
Aangezien het alleen al aanbieden van deze horloges onder
vermelding van de echte merknaam niet geheel correct is,
wil ik met dit bericht duidelijk maken dat ik, Marcel Engelbertink,
niet meer zal adverteren met imitatie-horloges van het merk ROLEX.
Enig persoon die hierin geiinteresseerd is kan ik jammer genoeg ook niet
meer helpen.
For all the foreign people who can't even understand dutch ?!? :
In spite of earlier mailing about fake-rolex's, I announce that I
don't have any information available any longer and I won't use
the trade name ROLEX anymore for those fake models.
Yours fakefully,
| 6 | misc.forsale |
Hi everybody,
Can anyone name an anonymous ftp-site where I can find the sources
of the PBM-PLUS package (portable bit/gray/pixel map).
I would like to compile and run it on a Sun Sparcstation. | 1 | comp.graphics |
Does anyone have some information on the relative fraction of the final
cost of each component in an average hard drive? For instance, I'm pretty
sure the heads and the platters are the most expensive parts, with the
assembly costs running a close third. Cost of the electronics is likely
in the noise.
Any hard numbers ($$ or percentage)? Thanks.
+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | 12 | sci.electronics |
Forgive me if this is a FAQ (I have checked the list but I cant find it).
I have a problem with the cursor within Xterm on MONO (not grayscale monitors)
The problem is that when I have an character application that displays input
fields in reverse video the Xterm text cursor gets lost on the edge of the
input field.
The solution would appear to be to set the xterm cursor to a line rather
than a block, but how do you do this. I can't find any means although
various sources seem to indicate it can be done.
When the xterm loses the input focus the cursor becomes an outlined block.
This would also be preferable but I can't seem to force this to be the
default either.
Configuration is : Motorola 88K X11R4
Please reply by email if poss.
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High power assault gun? Why, you must be talking about the 155mm Howitzer.
Or did you want to try a 16 incher? Or one of the German railway guns? | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
Phew! That takes a load off. I don't want to live forever. I wish
most Christians held this view. You can't walk across campus in
spring without being assailed by fire-and-brimstone preachers. I
really think the metaphor should be limited, at least with respect to
teaching our children. It's criminal to put these ideas into a young
and trusting mind. Besides, why not rely on the positive aspects of
your religion to win their faith?
-Tim | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
This appears to be generic calling upon the name of the anti-christ.
Just for the hell of it, let's destroy this remark. Let us imagine that
the executive branch actually could extract keys from the escrow houses
without anyone knowing, or telling. Now what? Dick has 80 bits of data.
What the hell's he gonna do with it?
1) Trot around to the telco and say 'we'd like an unauthorised
decrypting tap'. Uh huh.
2) Break in to watergate and install his own tap (so his people still
do have to break in, neat, huh?) record some noise, then get the Executive
Branch Phone Decryption Box (huh? they've got one? Goodness, wait 'til the
washington post gets hold of this) and decrypt the noise.
3) More likely, stare at the key, and say 'Oh, hell it's not
worth all this bloody hassle'
Truth is, even granted *lots* of covert power on the part of
the Executive Branch, this system is *more* difficult to tap with than
POTS gear. The fact that it is easier to tap than some hypothetical
system neither you nor I am going to place on our phones is neither
here nor there.
The only rational concerns I am seeing raised are:
a) is the key really just chopped in half, and not some XOR
arrangement? That is, has some egregious technical error been built
in to the plan?
b) is this is the first step toward strict regulation of strong
encryption?
This is b), of course. I suspect not. If the government actually
wanted to make such regs, they'd just do it. A few hundred people on Usenet
yelling about it wouldn't even slow the machine down.
Besides, who is this mysterious 'they' who's going to take away
all our rights the instant we let our guard down? Congress? That gang
of buffoons can't even balance their checkbooks. The FBI? But.. they
don't make the laws. The NSA? Ditto. The white house? Bill Clinton
is probably still looking for the bathroom. It's a big place, after all.
Andrew | 11 | sci.crypt |
Did you miss my post on this topic with the quote from The Indonesian
Handbook and Fred Rice's comments about temporary marriages? If so,
I will be glad to repost them. Will you accept that it just may be
a practice among some Muslims, if I do? Or will you continue to claim
that we are all lying and that it is "not practised at all amongst Muslims".
I don't think F. Karner has to tell everyone anything. Least of all that
he is lying. | 0 | alt.atheism |
: I need to know the Pins to connect to make a loopback connector for a serial
: port so I can build one. The loopback connector is used to test the
: serial port.
:
: Thanks for any help.
:
:
: Steve
:
Me Too!!!!!!!
skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
| 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
That really depends upon where you draw the line while defining
these weapons, and also on if you intend the law to be reflective of
modern practice five months or five centuries down the road. I'll give
you a little hint: see that manure pile in the farmer's field down the
road? In the USA, that is a weapon of mass destruction, biological in
nature, because if it gets washed into an open well it will contaminate
the aquifers that supply thousands of cities with drinking water. So,
where do *you* draw the line? In the USA, the EPA has ruled that
a pile of scrap iron is illegal. Care to draw a thinner line this time? | 16 | talk.politics.guns |
This reminds me of the last Graham Kerr cooking show I saw. Today he
smoked meat on the stovetop in a big pot! He used a strange technique
I'd never seen before.
He took a big pot with lid, and placed a tray in it made from aluminum foil.
The tray was about the size and shape of a typical coffee-table ash tray,
made by crumpling a sheet of foil around the edges.
In the tray, he placed a couple spoonfuls of brown sugar, a similar
quantity of brown rice (he said any rice will do), the contents of two
teabags of Earl Grey tea, and a few cloves.
On top of this was placed an ordinary aluminum basket-type steamer, with
two chicken breasts in it. The lid was put on, and the whole assembly
went on the stovetop at high heat for 10 or 12 minutes.
Later, he removed what looked like smoked chicken breasts. What surprises
and concerns me are:
1) No wood chips. Where does the smoke flavor come from?
2) About 5 or 10 years ago, I remember hearing that carmel color
(obtained by caramelizing sugar -- a common coloring and flavoring
agent) had been found to be carcinogenic. I believe they injected
it under the skin of rats, or something. If the results were conclusive,
caramel color would not be legal in the U.S., yet it is still being
used. Was the initial research result found to be incorrect, or what?
3) About 5 or 10 years ago, I remember Earl Grey tea being implicated
as carcinogenic, because it contains oil of bergamot (an extract
from the skin of a type of citrus fruit). Does anyone know whatever
happened with that story? If it were carcinogenic, Earl Grey tea
could not have it as an additive, yet it apparently continues to do
so.
WRT natural wood smoke (I've smoking a duck right now, as it happens),
I've noticed that a heavily-smoked food item will have an unpleasant tangy
taste when eaten directly out of the smoker if the smoke has only recently
stopped flowing. I find the best taste to be had by using dry wood chips,
getting lots of smoke right up at the beginning of the cooking process,
then slowly barbequing for hours and hours without adding additional wood chips.
My theory is that the unpleasant tangy molecules are low-molecular weight
stuff, like terpenes, and that the smoky flavor molecules are some sort
of larger molecule more similar to tar. The long barbeque time after
the initial intensive smoke drives off the low-molecular weight stuff,
just leaving the flavor behind. Does anyone know if my theory is correct?
I also remember hearing that the combustion products of fat dripping
on the charcoal and burning are carcinogenic. For that reason, and because
it covers the product with soot and some unpleasant tanginess, I only grill
non-drippy meats like prawns directly over hot coals. I do stuff like this
duck by indirect heat. I have a long rectangular Weber, and I put the coals
at one end and the meat at the other end. The fat drops directly on the
floor below the meat, and next time I use the barbeque I make the fire
in that end to burn off the fat and help ignite the coals.
And yet another reason I've heard not to smoke or barbeque meat is that
smoked cured meat, like pork sausage and bacon, contains
nitrosamines, which are carcinogenic. I'm pretty sure this claim actually
has some standing, don't know about the others. | 13 | sci.med |
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts."
(Ex. 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his
friend." (Ex. 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
(Gen. 32:30)
God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man
see me and live." (Ex. 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1 Tim. 6:16) | 19 | talk.religion.misc |
Woah...The context is about God's calling out a special people (the Jews) to
carry the "promise." To read the meaning as literal people is to miss Paul's
entire point. I'd be glad to send anyone more detailed explanations of this
passage if interested. | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
I should probably re-post this with another title, so that
the guys on the other thread would see that this is a practical
use of "temporary orbits..."
Another possible temporary orbit:
| 14 | sci.space |
I've acquired an old Logitech Series 7 (3-button) mouse, and I'm told
that this is a bus mouse. Does anyone want to unload an old
(pc-clone) bus-card for this mouse?
email replies to: bobmon@cs.indiana.edu | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Can someone send me ticket ordering information for the
following teams: Baltimore, Philadelphia and Boston.
Also, if you have a home schedule available - can you tell me the dates
for all home games between July26-Aug6 and between Aug30-Sept10 and if
any of these games are promotion nights or special discount nights?
Thanks !!! Ron
PS: and also who the opponents are for these games :-)
Do NOT reply to this account,
please reply to: ronc@vnet.ibm.com | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
I need a device (either an ISA board or a subsystem) which will
take two RGB video signals and combine them according to a template.
The template can be as simple as a rectangular window with signal
one being used for the interior and signal two for the exterior.
But I beleive fancier harware may also exist which I do not want
to exclude from my search. I know this sort of hardware exists
for NTSC, etc. but I need it for RGB.
Please email and or post any leads.... | 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
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Check with the local fire department. My buddy is a firefighter and they
have these small map books which are Amazing! They are compact, easy to
use (no folding). They even have a cross reference section in which you
match your current cross streets with the cross streets you want to go to
and it details the quickest route. They gave me an extra they had laying
around. But then again I know all those people I'm not really sure if they
are supposed to give/sell them. (The police may also have something
similar).
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Troy, MI | '88 EX500
DoD #0832 | | 8 | rec.motorcycles |
Saku isn't that small any longer I guess I heard he is 177cm tall at the
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Archive-name: atheism/resources
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Atheist Resources
Addresses of Atheist Organizations
USA
FREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION
Darwin fish bumper stickers and assorted other atheist paraphernalia are
available from the Freedom From Religion Foundation in the US.
Write to: FFRF, P.O. Box 750, Madison, WI 53701.
Telephone: (608) 256-8900
EVOLUTION DESIGNS
Evolution Designs sell the "Darwin fish". It's a fish symbol, like the ones
Christians stick on their cars, but with feet and the word "Darwin" written
inside. The deluxe moulded 3D plastic fish is $4.95 postpaid in the US.
Write to: Evolution Designs, 7119 Laurel Canyon #4, North Hollywood,
CA 91605.
People in the San Francisco Bay area can get Darwin Fish from Lynn Gold --
try mailing <figmo@netcom.com>. For net people who go to Lynn directly, the
price is $4.95 per fish.
AMERICAN ATHEIST PRESS
AAP publish various atheist books -- critiques of the Bible, lists of
Biblical contradictions, and so on. One such book is:
"The Bible Handbook" by W.P. Ball and G.W. Foote. American Atheist Press.
372 pp. ISBN 0-910309-26-4, 2nd edition, 1986. Bible contradictions,
absurdities, atrocities, immoralities... contains Ball, Foote: "The Bible
Contradicts Itself", AAP. Based on the King James version of the Bible.
Write to: American Atheist Press, P.O. Box 140195, Austin, TX 78714-0195.
or: 7215 Cameron Road, Austin, TX 78752-2973.
Telephone: (512) 458-1244
Fax: (512) 467-9525
PROMETHEUS BOOKS
Sell books including Haught's "Holy Horrors" (see below).
Write to: 700 East Amherst Street, Buffalo, New York 14215.
Telephone: (716) 837-2475.
An alternate address (which may be newer or older) is:
Prometheus Books, 59 Glenn Drive, Buffalo, NY 14228-2197.
AFRICAN-AMERICANS FOR HUMANISM
An organization promoting black secular humanism and uncovering the history of
black freethought. They publish a quarterly newsletter, AAH EXAMINER.
Write to: Norm R. Allen, Jr., African Americans for Humanism, P.O. Box 664,
Buffalo, NY 14226.
United Kingdom
Rationalist Press Association National Secular Society
88 Islington High Street 702 Holloway Road
London N1 8EW London N19 3NL
071 226 7251 071 272 1266
British Humanist Association South Place Ethical Society
14 Lamb's Conduit Passage Conway Hall
London WC1R 4RH Red Lion Square
071 430 0908 London WC1R 4RL
fax 071 430 1271 071 831 7723
The National Secular Society publish "The Freethinker", a monthly magazine
founded in 1881.
Germany
IBKA e.V.
Internationaler Bund der Konfessionslosen und Atheisten
Postfach 880, D-1000 Berlin 41. Germany.
IBKA publish a journal:
MIZ. (Materialien und Informationen zur Zeit. Politisches
Journal der Konfessionslosesn und Atheisten. Hrsg. IBKA e.V.)
MIZ-Vertrieb, Postfach 880, D-1000 Berlin 41. Germany.
For atheist books, write to:
IBDK, Internationaler B"ucherdienst der Konfessionslosen
Postfach 3005, D-3000 Hannover 1. Germany.
Telephone: 0511/211216
Books -- Fiction
THOMAS M. DISCH
"The Santa Claus Compromise"
Short story. The ultimate proof that Santa exists. All characters and
events are fictitious. Any similarity to living or dead gods -- uh, well...
WALTER M. MILLER, JR
"A Canticle for Leibowitz"
One gem in this post atomic doomsday novel is the monks who spent their lives
copying blueprints from "Saint Leibowitz", filling the sheets of paper with
ink and leaving white lines and letters.
EDGAR PANGBORN
"Davy"
Post atomic doomsday novel set in clerical states. The church, for example,
forbids that anyone "produce, describe or use any substance containing...
atoms".
PHILIP K. DICK
Philip K. Dick Dick wrote many philosophical and thought-provoking short
stories and novels. His stories are bizarre at times, but very approachable.
He wrote mainly SF, but he wrote about people, truth and religion rather than
technology. Although he often believed that he had met some sort of God, he
remained sceptical. Amongst his novels, the following are of some relevance:
"Galactic Pot-Healer"
A fallible alien deity summons a group of Earth craftsmen and women to a
remote planet to raise a giant cathedral from beneath the oceans. When the
deity begins to demand faith from the earthers, pot-healer Joe Fernwright is
unable to comply. A polished, ironic and amusing novel.
"A Maze of Death"
Noteworthy for its description of a technology-based religion.
"VALIS"
The schizophrenic hero searches for the hidden mysteries of Gnostic
Christianity after reality is fired into his brain by a pink laser beam of
unknown but possibly divine origin. He is accompanied by his dogmatic and
dismissively atheist friend and assorted other odd characters.
"The Divine Invasion"
God invades Earth by making a young woman pregnant as she returns from
another star system. Unfortunately she is terminally ill, and must be
assisted by a dead man whose brain is wired to 24-hour easy listening music.
MARGARET ATWOOD
"The Handmaid's Tale"
A story based on the premise that the US Congress is mysteriously
assassinated, and fundamentalists quickly take charge of the nation to set it
"right" again. The book is the diary of a woman's life as she tries to live
under the new Christian theocracy. Women's right to own property is revoked,
and their bank accounts are closed; sinful luxuries are outlawed, and the
radio is only used for readings from the Bible. Crimes are punished
retroactively: doctors who performed legal abortions in the "old world" are
hunted down and hanged. Atwood's writing style is difficult to get used to
at first, but the tale grows more and more chilling as it goes on.
VARIOUS AUTHORS
"The Bible"
This somewhat dull and rambling work has often been criticized. However, it
is probably worth reading, if only so that you'll know what all the fuss is
about. It exists in many different versions, so make sure you get the one
true version.
Books -- Non-fiction
PETER DE ROSA
"Vicars of Christ", Bantam Press, 1988
Although de Rosa seems to be Christian or even Catholic this is a very
enlighting history of papal immoralities, adulteries, fallacies etc.
(German translation: "Gottes erste Diener. Die dunkle Seite des Papsttums",
Droemer-Knaur, 1989)
MICHAEL MARTIN
"Atheism: A Philosophical Justification", Temple University Press,
Philadelphia, USA.
A detailed and scholarly justification of atheism. Contains an outstanding
appendix defining terminology and usage in this (necessarily) tendentious
area. Argues both for "negative atheism" (i.e. the "non-belief in the
existence of god(s)") and also for "positive atheism" ("the belief in the
non-existence of god(s)"). Includes great refutations of the most
challenging arguments for god; particular attention is paid to refuting
contempory theists such as Platinga and Swinburne.
541 pages. ISBN 0-87722-642-3 (hardcover; paperback also available)
"The Case Against Christianity", Temple University Press
A comprehensive critique of Christianity, in which he considers
the best contemporary defences of Christianity and (ultimately)
demonstrates that they are unsupportable and/or incoherent.
273 pages. ISBN 0-87722-767-5
JAMES TURNER
"Without God, Without Creed", The Johns Hopkins University Press, Baltimore,
MD, USA
Subtitled "The Origins of Unbelief in America". Examines the way in which
unbelief (whether agnostic or atheistic) became a mainstream alternative
world-view. Focusses on the period 1770-1900, and while considering France
and Britain the emphasis is on American, and particularly New England
developments. "Neither a religious history of secularization or atheism,
Without God, Without Creed is, rather, the intellectual history of the fate
of a single idea, the belief that God exists."
316 pages. ISBN (hardcover) 0-8018-2494-X (paper) 0-8018-3407-4
GEORGE SELDES (Editor)
"The great thoughts", Ballantine Books, New York, USA
A "dictionary of quotations" of a different kind, concentrating on statements
and writings which, explicitly or implicitly, present the person's philosophy
and world-view. Includes obscure (and often suppressed) opinions from many
people. For some popular observations, traces the way in which various
people expressed and twisted the idea over the centuries. Quite a number of
the quotations are derived from Cardiff's "What Great Men Think of Religion"
and Noyes' "Views of Religion".
490 pages. ISBN (paper) 0-345-29887-X.
RICHARD SWINBURNE
"The Existence of God (Revised Edition)", Clarendon Paperbacks, Oxford
This book is the second volume in a trilogy that began with "The Coherence of
Theism" (1977) and was concluded with "Faith and Reason" (1981). In this
work, Swinburne attempts to construct a series of inductive arguments for the
existence of God. His arguments, which are somewhat tendentious and rely
upon the imputation of late 20th century western Christian values and
aesthetics to a God which is supposedly as simple as can be conceived, were
decisively rejected in Mackie's "The Miracle of Theism". In the revised
edition of "The Existence of God", Swinburne includes an Appendix in which he
makes a somewhat incoherent attempt to rebut Mackie.
J. L. MACKIE
"The Miracle of Theism", Oxford
This (posthumous) volume contains a comprehensive review of the principal
arguments for and against the existence of God. It ranges from the classical
philosophical positions of Descartes, Anselm, Berkeley, Hume et al, through
the moral arguments of Newman, Kant and Sidgwick, to the recent restatements
of the classical theses by Plantinga and Swinburne. It also addresses those
positions which push the concept of God beyond the realm of the rational,
such as those of Kierkegaard, Kung and Philips, as well as "replacements for
God" such as Lelie's axiarchism. The book is a delight to read - less
formalistic and better written than Martin's works, and refreshingly direct
when compared with the hand-waving of Swinburne.
JAMES A. HAUGHT
"Holy Horrors: An Illustrated History of Religious Murder and Madness",
Prometheus Books
Looks at religious persecution from ancient times to the present day -- and
not only by Christians.
Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 89-64079. 1990.
NORM R. ALLEN, JR.
"African American Humanism: an Anthology"
See the listing for African Americans for Humanism above.
GORDON STEIN
"An Anthology of Atheism and Rationalism", Prometheus Books
An anthology covering a wide range of subjects, including 'The Devil, Evil
and Morality' and 'The History of Freethought'. Comprehensive bibliography.
EDMUND D. COHEN
"The Mind of The Bible-Believer", Prometheus Books
A study of why people become Christian fundamentalists, and what effect it
has on them.
Net Resources
There's a small mail-based archive server at mantis.co.uk which carries
archives of old alt.atheism.moderated articles and assorted other files. For
more information, send mail to archive-server@mantis.co.uk saying
help
send atheism/index
and it will mail back a reply.
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If I am not mistaken, the Jewish family names Cohen, Kahn, etc.
are considered to be legitimate indicators of descent from Aaron.
The family names Levi, Levene, etc. are considered to be legitimate
indicators of descent from Levi. The main legal issue is the purification
of the priesthood, which is supposed to involve finding the ashes of
of the red heifer last used for this purpose 2000 years ago.
_______________________________________________________________________________ | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
I don't think this is the case, at least not on all jetskis. On my
friend's jetski, bars turn left to go left. Anyway, all you're doing
there is changing the yaw of the jets, so the relationship between
the handlbars and the rear-mounted jets is completely arbitrary
(simple linkage could make it work either way).
It seems to me that jetskis are even more irrelevant to this discussion
than snow skis. But it *has* been an amusing digression.
Hey Ed, how do you explain the fact that you pull on a horse's reins
left to go left? :-) Or am I confusing two threads here?
| 8 | rec.motorcycles |
@ From: Kayhan Havai # 1026
@ --------------------------
@
@ o Dr. Namaki, deputy minister of health stated that infant
@ mortality (under one year old) in Iran went down from 120
@ per thousand before the revolution to 33 per thousand at
@ the end of 1371 (last month).
@
@ o Dr Namaki also stated that before the revolution only
@ 254f children received vaccinations to protect them
@ from various deseases but this figure reached 93at
@ the end of 1371.
Something funny happens to the percent sign. In paragraph
above, the vaccination rate went from 25 percent to 93 percent.
- Farzin
| 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
Does anyone know the phone and fax number of the Asymetrix
Corporation. I am also interested in their e-mail address.
I would also like to know what the current status of their product Toolbook
is. I received the last update 1.5 about 1.5 year ago. Are their any new
developments or is Toolbook slowly dying?
Regards,
Rob de Winter.
| 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
How about:
The Holocaust
The Spanish Inquisition
Jonestown
(just to name a few) ?
Authorities sometimes tell people to do evil things. People who "just
follow orders" have tortured and killed others in very large numbers,
and protest their innocence afterwards.
When your authority starts telling you to do things, you should ask
questions. Except for situations of pressing need ("I said shut the
hatch because the submarine is filling with water!"), any reasonable
authority should be able to give at least some justification that you
can understand.
Just be sure to listen when authority answers.
(If anybody is interested in questions of psychological pressure and
following orders, you might want to read about a study done by Solomon Ashe
in 1951 on conformity, and another done by Stanley Milgram in 1963 on
obedience. Both should be in any good book on psychology/sociology. The
results are both fascinating and terrifying.)
| 15 | soc.religion.christian |
yeah, just like we have here in the US.
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You'd have to purify the river water first. I'm not sure how practical
that is with the Mississippi. You'd better check with health agencies
along the way to see if there are toxic chemicals in the river. If
it is just microorganisms, those can be filtered or killed, but you
may need activated charcoal or other means to purify from chemicals.
Better be same than sorry. Obviously, drinking the river without
processing it is likely to make you sick from bacteria and parasites.
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geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." | 13 | sci.med |
This sounds like another of Ali AbuTaha's 57 different "real causes" of
the Challenger accident. As far as I know, there has never been the
slightest shred of evidence for a "harmonic resonance" having occurred.
The windshear-induced maneuvering probably *did* contribute to opening
up the leak path in the SRB joint again -- it seems to have sealed itself
after the puffs of smoke during liftoff -- but the existing explanation
of this and related events seems to account for the evidence adequately. | 14 | sci.space |
A new alternative to Scouting for those "unacceptable to BSA" for reasons
of religious or sexual preference:
From: "BOYD R. CRITZ, III" <71611.365@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: EnviroLeague
"Birth Announcement" on March 7, 1993, from EARTH Forum, CompuServe
Information Service
===================================================================
FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT
-------------------
(SM)
EnviroLeague
A new youth movement,"EnviroLeague," was recently born, according to its
founder, Boyd R. Critz, III (CIS ID# 71611,365), of Peoria, Illinois.
EnviroLeague exists for the education of youth, both male and female, in
matters concerning their values related to and responsibility for our
environment.
Incorporated as an Illinois not-for-profit corporation, its Articles and
initial applications for a service mark have now been filed. According to
Critz, its draft Bylaws contain the following statement of Mission and
Objectives:
MISSION
It is the Mission of EnviroLeague and its adult members
to foster and implement the improved education of young
people in the need to conduct their lives as Stewards
of The Earth, to leave The Earth in a better condition
than they found it, and to otherwise act as responsible,
moral and ethical users of their environment. To pursue
the accomplishment of this Mission, EnviroLeague shall
seek to serve as a catalyst, focusing in common cause the
separate efforts of all groups desiring the preservation,
improvement, and responsible use of the environment in
which we must all live.
OBJECTIVES
In pursuit of the Mission of EnviroLeague, its primary
objectives shall be:
(1) To establish a Movement involving as many
environmentally concerned organizations as
possible, said Movement having as its primary
focus the education and participatory
involvement of young people in appropriate areas
of environmental concern;
(2) To develop and provide to such organizations and
their branches a full complement of program
materials for their use, including suitable
uniforms, insignia and other badges, written
ideas, syllabi and information, literature and
other items as shall seem appropriate and
desirable;
(3) To serve as a "clearing house" for the exchange
of program ideas, materials and information
among said organizations; and
(4) To assist environmentally concerned
organizations to recruit and train the necessary
adult leadership for their youth programs.
EnviroLeague will operate through three "Program Divisions" serving youth in
the elementary, middle and high school grades, respectively. Service shall be
through formation of "EnviroLeague Teams," either by EnviroLeague itself or by
environmentally conscious organizations (or their local branches) wishing a
charter to use programs developed by EnviroLeague.
EnviroLeague, as it develops, will be controlled by the actual adult leaders
of each local Team, and will have no nationally imposed obstacles to
membership or adult leadership status not based upon relevant improper
conduct. Organizations accepting a charter may, however, impose certain
additional standards for their own use of the program material. Should such
organizations do so, EnviroLeague will commit itself to forming, as soon as
possible, new nearby Teams having no such restrictions, particularly as to
youth membership.
EnviroLeague will operate on the principle that youth will have much to
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Teams for middle and high school youth may become involved in governing any
local administrative groups, and those for its high school youth may be
involved in similar functions at the national level.
Program materials are in development at this time. Copies of the "draft"
portions of the Mentor's Manual (manual for adult leadership) will be in the
EARTH Forum, Library 17. These files will be updated as development takes
place.
CompuServe is particularly proud that EnviroLeague's founder chose this
electronic medium to make the first public announcement of its formation.
This announcement is being made simultaneously in both the OUTDOOR and EARTH
Forums.
The electronic home of EnviroLeague is in CompuServe's Earth Forum - GO
EARTH - message and library areas 17, both named "EnviroLeague."
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Those interested in starting an EnviroLeague Team might just establish
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-- | 0 | alt.atheism |
And some of us call them murderous bastards, but what's in a name.
Just a damn minute! What history books did you read? I seem to recall
that there were a few British, Canadian, American, and Commonwealth
soldiers in France about that time. Perhaps you believe they were taking
a vacation trip?
Sure, the Lebanese want to get all foreigners out of the country so they
can go back to killing each other off.
REB
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Can the Father possibly not hear the words of His children.
Of course He hears all your prayers.
Whether you are a sinner or a saint, no questions.
The real question you should be asking is: "Does sin block OUR hearing His
answer?" And the answer to that question is a resounding YES.
To paraphrase the gospel "Many are called but few choose to listen"
and so it is with prayer.
In Christ,
James
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James Hale Lincoln School of Health Sciences
Computing Unit La Trobe University,Bundoora, AUSTRALIA
James.Hale@Latrobe.Edu.Au | 15 | soc.religion.christian |
They aren't functions, they are character arrays. The standard strings
are either defined as string constants or character pointers into
XtShellStrings and XtStrings determined by XTSTRINGDEFINES. Your
libraries were compiled with this defined and your application with it
undefined so simply recompile one or the other. It is probably worth
adding -DXTSTRINGDEFINES to your CFLAGS.
--
Michael Salmon
#include <standard.disclaimer>
#include <witty.saying>
#include <fancy.pseudo.graphics> | 5 | comp.windows.x |
The lengthy article you quote doesn't imply this. It only states that
it is somehow POSSIBLE, not that it is in any way likely. This is akin
to an article saying that it is POSSIBLE that the USAF has several
captured UFOs, without supporting the liklihood of such an assertion.
In other words, they were telling a pesky reporter to keep guessing.
Israel maintains this same attitude about nuclear weapons it may or
may not have. The US maintains the same attitude about the presence
of nuclear weapons on specific naval craft. By refusing to
acknowledge the existence of such weapons on specific ships, US
warships have, I believe, become unwelcome in New Zealand, which has
declared itself a nuclear-free-zone.
The USAF has never officially admitted to having any UFOs, either.
This is stated as a fact without supporting evidence. It would've
been more convincing if your reporter had come up with just one name
of someone who is sitting in jail, lost to the world, as he suggests.
Maybe Elvis, or JFK, somebody.
Let's put it this way: If Israel has put people away without
publicizing their arrests or the legal proceedings against them, how
has their disappearance been explained? People have relatives,
friends and colleagues, you know. Israel is not known as a place
where people are made to vanish. Would you care to give us a list of
people whose whereabouts are unknown? People who are presumed to be
imprisoned? This whole conspiracy story isn't something that we've
come to associate with Yigal Arens before. Perhaps from now on, we
should.
| 17 | talk.politics.mideast |
In <1993Apr16.140953.5025@vax.cns..edu>, jbrown@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes...
I would appreciate it if you would not refer to Mr. Maynard by his
initials. Thanks, see you in the Norris finals.
Ron | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
True 914 enthusiasts will be able to give you a better answer then this
but I'll dump my impressions. I've wanted to own a 914 for about 10 years
now; came close once but I ended up buying a Fiero instead (biggest mistake
of my life!)
Anyway, for $4000 you should be able to get a nice car but your also set
in the price range to get taken by a nice looker that is a pile of shit.
The most common total failure for the car would be frame rust between the
engine and passenger compartment. Also look for chassis welded together
here. Oh yeah, the price range you are talking about must be the 4 banger;
a 6 (if you could find one) would be mucho more bucks.
Parts for the engine are pretty easy to come by (for an old car) and you
can even locate crude in the JC Whitney catalog if you have too.
The machine itself is pretty simple (they use the spare tire for windshild
washer instead of a pump fer chris sake!) so getting it fixed by a good
bug/porsche mechanic would be easy. Since it is mid-engine you may spend
more on labor for any mechanical work.
| 7 | rec.autos |
I have the local bus card also, and don't have any such problems with it
now, but this is the second card I've gotten - the first card didn't work
in VGA mode correctly. Maybe they still have some quality control problems.
I would suggest checking with ATI (I went through the vendor I bought the
card from since the problem showed up immediately). I never was able to
get through to ATI's technical support number.
I sure like the way the card performs though. I have the 2MB ATI ultra
pro - local bus, and it is fast even in 1024x768x16bpp mode.
Cheers,
Phil
| 2 | comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
And they're more like 1024x1024x8 charging & discharging capacitors in a DRAM
SIMM =-) | 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Sorry Len, this is exactly how he suffered from being rushed to the bigs.
Being overweight and having no work ethic, leading to being injury prone with
nothing to loose, might have been corrected in Richmond. (Did you intend a
smiley after your comment?)
This brings back the long suffering memories of pre-chop Braves fans who
kept being promised the Bob Horner - Dale Murphy back to back power slam. Who
could stop that? Guess we'll never know.
P.S. - Rocky fans (are there any yet?) Is Dale getting any playing time out
there? I plan to be at the game on June 28th, they'll have to play him then.
| 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
The HGA isn't all that reflective in the wavelengths that might "cook the
focal elements", nor is its figure good on those scales--the problem is
that the antenna _itself_ could not be exposed to Venus-level sunlight,
lest like Icarus' wings it melt. (I think it was glues and such, as well
as electronics, that they were worried about.) Thus it had to remain
furled and the axis _always_ pointed near the sun, so that the small
sunshade at the tip of the antenna mast would shadow the folded HGA.
(A larger sunshade beneath the antenna shielded the spacecraft bus.) | 14 | sci.space |
All of this is fine. I never said that Murray was a bad GM. I merely said
that he isn't the best GM in hockey- or even a contender for that honor.
If Murray is as great as you claim- the Wings would have won the Stanley Cup
by now- probably more than once. If he was as great a GM as you claim
and he was as poor a coach as you claim- he would have been intelligent
enough to hire the coach to push the team to the next level of success.
But Murray is an average (unspectacular) NHL coach and a pretty good GM
so none of this is true anyway. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
I think the Manta is the European name for the "GT." I'm pretty sure
that the only Kadett's sold here were/are the Pontiac LeMans. I think the
GT is just an early '70s to mid '70s Manta. | 7 | rec.autos |
I have a Diamond Speedstar 24X board that I want to program
for 24 bit 640x480 graphics, or possibly 800x600 16 bit color.
Does anybody have any libraries supporting these modes on this
board? Even somes simple routines to set the graphics mode and
plot individual pixels would be a great help. I plan to use the
routines with djgp.
Thanks in advance. Please respond also via e-mail. | 1 | comp.graphics |
Apple has really confused people with this whole thing. I think
we'll be answering this question for about the next year or so. There is
no "option" to get an FPU on a C650. What you have is a choice of CPUs:
there is the 68LC040 that does not have an integrated FPU like the full
'040 and is only present in the base 4/80 model of the C650 (AppleUSA).
And there is the full '040 which you get when you order anything other
than the base 4/80 configuration. Therefore, since you have ordered one
of the 8MB versions with on-board Ethernet models you will not be
getting the LC040. But even if you wanted to have the LC040 you wouldn't
be able to order a C650 with 8MB RAM, on-board Ethernet and an LC040.
It's not an "option."
Also, a note to people out there that have 4/80 C650s and C610s
thinking that there is an optional FPU, the '040 class chip cannot
recognize an external FPU, so there is no socket on the motherboard for
a FPU chip and you cannot go out and purchase an FPU on a PDS card or
something like that. The only way to get an FPU in these machines is to
replace the LC040 with a full '040. And if you have a C610, you will not
need to worry about a heat sink if you do replace the LC040 with the
full '040, but if you have a 4/80 C650 you do need to have a heat sink. | 4 | comp.sys.mac.hardware |
The federal government has mandated that all passenger cars by model year
'95 return to the floor mounted dimmer switch.
A study by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has
found that an unacceptable percentage of after dusk collisions were the
direct result of unskilled drivers getting their left foot stuck in the
steering wheel :-)
--
Ron Gaskins c23reg@koptsw21.delcoelect.com
Automotive Electronic Systems Delco Electronics
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904 | 7 | rec.autos |
If I hear someone screwing with my car (ie, setting off the alarm) and
taunting me to come out, you can be damn sure that my Colt Delta Elite
will also be coming with me. It's not the screwing with the car that'd
get them shot, it's the potential physical danger. If they're
taunting like that, it's very possible that they also intend to rob
me and/or do other physically harmful things.
If they're just screwing around, no harm done. If they're bent on
mayhem, they will receive the cure for their lead deficiency; a
180gr. injection @1200 fps...there's no telling what today's violent
criminals will do. Death may be the most pleasant outcome...
James | 7 | rec.autos |
The following is posted for a friend. You can send replies to this email
address or call him at 503-752-1499. (Glen)
I have a CITIZEN OVERTURE 110 Laser printer for sale. It is in
excellent condition. It has been used less than one year on this drum.
I am asking $500, but all offers will be considered. Below are some
specs on it.
Toner lifespan: 2500 pages
Drum lifespan: 15,000 pages
Resolution: 300 DPI
Memory: 512K
Emulation: Epson FX286
IBM ProPrinter
Diablo 635
Printing Capacity: Quad-density graphics
Tray capacity: 250 sheets
Reason for sale: Financial--I need to pay tuition.
Thanks,
-Glen Anderson | 6 | misc.forsale |
Well, I'm a Wings fan and I think the FIRST thing that you should do is to
get the opponent's line combinations correct before you try to match up anyone
with them. There is no Yzerman-Fedorov-Probert line, except for maybe on a
powerplay. These three players usually play on three different lines.
Which would mean that Toronto's checking line would have to pull a triple
shift.
The Wings' lines usually look like this:
Gallant-Yzerman-Ciccarelli
Kozlov-Fedorov-Drake
Kennedy-Burr-Probert
Ysebaert-Primeau-Sheppard
Oh by the way: Start praying! : ) | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
I never thought I'd contribute to a Gateway thread, either pro or con, but
my spleen could use a little venting. The scenario:
1 - Ordered a DX2/50 w/ Ultrastor 34F Local Bus HD controller
2 - Receive system 10 days after ordering (Happy)
3 - Discover Ultrastor 14F ISA HD Controller inside (unhappy)
4 - Call Gateway, receive the correct controller in 5 days
(getting happier)
5 - New controller doesn't work (unhappy again)
6 - Call Gateway again, get another controller in 5 more days
(cooling off, the end is in sight)
7 - This controller doesn't work either, motherboard is bad
(VERY unhappy)
Gateway's solution: They will order me a new motherboard (5 more days)
and have on-site service install it for me.
BUT, I have to take a day off of work because the service people
only work 9-5 M-f. I say, no way I've already blown about 20 hours
with this, about 10 of them on hold and I don't have the time or $$
to take a day off work. Also, my 30 day return period is almost over and
I've only been able to use the thin for about 10 minutes. So, the whole
thing is going back.
I was extremely upset when I began this post because the support rep told me
that I would have to pay shipping not only for the returned system, but also
the two hard drive controllers they had sent me. Fortunately, I just spoke
to customer service and they are going to have UPS come and pick everything
up gratis. The only downside is that now I have to order another computer.
I would really like to try Gateway again, I'm just very turned off by the
prospect of having to try and get through to Customer Service or Tech Support
again... I think their products are great for the most part, but I'm
beginning to wonder if the savings are worth the potential aggravation.
Are other mail order companies as difficult to contact? I know Gateway is
booming, and for good reason, but I don't know if I can take it again.
Oh well, I feel better now...
| 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Anaheim. | 9 | rec.sport.baseball |
Hello,
I am having a small problem with my sound blaster pro and a game.
Is there a utility out there that would tell me what DMA's my system
is using?
| 3 | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
After reading some of the reports of possible NHL moves to Milwaukee or that
Milwaukee should have an NHL team, I thought I'd pass along a story I heard
recently. This is second hand, so I don't know how true it is, but I have
no reason to doubt it either.
Bradley Center in Milwaukee is home to the Milwaukee Admirals minor leauge
hockey team. The owner of the Admirals (sorry, I can't remember his name)
either owns or at least shelled out the majority of the funds to build the
Bradley Center.
Supposedly he was approached by the NHL about an expansion franchise, but
turned it down because he thought the franchise fee of $50 million was too
high.
Like I said, I don't know whether this story is true or just a rumor, but if
it's true, don't look for an NHL team in Milwaukee anytime soon. The Admirals
aren't going to be forced out of the building and you won't see an NHL club
and a minor league club in the same building, especially since the NBA's
Milwaukee Bucks play there as well. | 10 | rec.sport.hockey |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've heard many Turks say this and it surpises me that they don't read about
it.Remember the Treaty of Sevres-as a consequence of being in the Axis powers
in WWI.The Turks UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW were supposed to look after their
minorities ie. Greeks,Armenians,Kurds(I must say Turk-Kurd relations are
improving slightly with time) and not pose a threat to Turkey's neighbours.
The Turks blatantly rejected this treaty(the Germans grudgingly accepted
Versailles which was a million times worse for the health and pride of the
German people).The Greeks who had an army there,were there with BRITISH
and FRENCH backing to enforce Sevres.
In possibly the first example of appeasement the Young Turk government
managed screwed the Treaty of Laussane out of the weak allies,this was after
the Greek forces were were destroyed at Smyrna.When this occurred incidently,
FRENCH warships were in the harbour and many Greeks trying escape swam to the
FRENCH warships and climbed aboard only to get their arms cut off by the FRENCH
as they clawed they're way up the sides of the ships.
Libertae,egalitae,fraternatae.
| 17 | talk.politics.mideast |