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dipshit beaches his shitty boat sailing drunk at night, gofundme collects enough to bail out his towing costs and a new shitty boat...
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Sounds like stupidity is the best catalyst for profit. Why does this sub continue to fail?
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Because we're not *completely* shameless.
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speak for yourself nigga
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Sucking off old men for spare change is several steps above begging people on the Internet to bail you out of your own retardation.
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Washing windows at stoplights is a growth industry too
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>Rubbing dirty rags on clean windows at stoplights is a growth industry too
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Robinhood is asking for trouble here...
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OP is not a bank, he WILL have to pay the money back.
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If RH isn't careful they could end up getting sued by all of the dumbasses who fuck themselves with this
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and what would be the excuse legal enough to sue them?
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Ignorance of the law, stupidity, free collage
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Did you attend a free collage?
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Well it just ended sooooo
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F
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It doesn't even matter though, just wait for guidance
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Oh this isn't the micron ER thread lol
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Everything in this sub is a Micron thread
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J to da nug!
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you dont think its priced in?
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What is there to be priced in?
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Potential buy out faggot
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By AMD?
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By Snapchat
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Buy Snapchat?
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All in on Snapchat?
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Don't fret - I watched the footage of the crash and it was almost certainly unavoidable. Once investigation is released it will fizzle out... BTFD
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What crash?
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Uber's self driving car killed a pedestrian in Arizon.
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What does that have to do with nvdia?
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NVDA is powering UBER's self driving car with their tech. Look at my post history for a writeup
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What do you mean powering? Their lidar? Their software? If it's just the SoC, then this self off is absolutely retarded.
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Yep, just the SoC Xavier chip from NVDA
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If NVDA's only expusure is hardware, then this is complete non event.
And anyone selling because of this is short a chromosome.
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daddy bezos please buy twitter and kick off the orange man
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Maybe Bezos should just pay a standard corporate tax rate instead.
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They do and Trump just passed a massive tax cut and is mad they are not paying max taxes? Trump personally hasn't payed taxes in 18 years
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Lol. They pay around 10% federal.
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You're talking as if Amazon doesn't play by the same set of tax rules that all other corporations do. Maybe if Trump's dick wasn't so far up your ass you'd have room in that skull for a brain? kys faggot
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More salt, faggot. Please give more.
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That's all it took to get you to pull the salt card? You're even more of an obese small dick basement dwelling virgin than I thought. Now be a good cumbag and put back on that downsie helmet.
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YES! YES! More delicious salt! Please give more, faggot...
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WSB isn’t even a left leaning sub and you’re getting buried in downvotes. You should consider the possibility that you’re an asshole
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edit: goddamn it i wanted a FUNDING SECURED chain but you idiots wont do it
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It's not a loss until you sell
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Until it expires worthless anyway
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What the fuck kind of attitude is this?
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We either get rich or die trying
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Oh you mean our lives expire worthless and early.
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meth
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Come on, the dude has money, don’t dis respect him like this. You know it’s primo cocaine or nothing.
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fentanyl
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What sort of hillbilly shit do you think he is into ?
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This is Kramer we're talking about here. He's one n word, a trucker hat and a sexual harassment suit away from being Trump's next cabinet pick.
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#thankful I'm not losing money today #PPT #pensions
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I heard they are doing another round on Monday
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oh yah says who
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CNBC article read Friday
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Oh yah what friday
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Ur boi is a fuckin stable genius. He inherited Obama's bull market and may be cratering it.
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Obanga never had a bull market. Just his election alone plunged the US into one of the worse elections of all time. In contrast to Trump who ushered us into the greatest bull run of all time. Not to mention that Obanga sold us out to the China, muslims, Jews and Russia, runing our strong national and letting the SJWs take over
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Jesus christ look at Milton Friedman over here. Can you point me to a good (((SJWs))) controlling the market index?
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Soros and Disney. Also Tesla. Look at how many Jews own the top multiconglomerate companies.
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http://ir.tesla.com/corporate-governance/board-of-directors
He's right. Look at all those classically Jewish names, like Gracias, Jurvetson and Buss.
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## Speaker_0: ##
damn your rent is TOO DAMN HIGH
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maybe if your rent wasnt so high you wouldnt be so poor
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Well, it's two months worth of rent (Oct and Nov), including my 3 roommates' rent. Should I tell my roomies I made 80% gainz on their rent checks? Even then, my portion of the rent is still more expensive than my sister's mortgage payment.
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You complete asshat.
You fit right in.
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Whatever, not once have they ever paid me rent on time, but I (usually) pay rent on time, so I front like $2500 every damn month. Payback.
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Good job.Time to get a job and fund the option gambling addiction like us.
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Oh I only did this after signing my offer letter.
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The fuck is this kind of responsibility doing in this sub?
(Grats on the gains man)
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Lmaaaao at least I'm not on the vanguard target 2060 fund
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Wait is the vanguard 2060 fund bad? (Sorry I'm new to this) I started putting money towards it is why I'm asking.
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Not if you’re a pussy that considers 10% annual returns good.
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What would the premise of your 50k loan be?
Considering the rise in interest rates. What do you fair your rates to be?
I believe you’re suppose to disclose the purpose of the loan and it’s fraud? If used inappropriately.
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Would the pursue litigation as long as you pay back, though?
I’m absolutely not recommending this but my guess is they won’t sue your ass unless you file for bankruptcy then all bets are off.
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But you need to disclose at application.
I mean it’s illegal.
But, if you’re able to get a 5% 5-year 50k loan and outperform, go nuts.
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Would disclosing the purpose of "investment" result in an automatic loan denial? I'm thinking of applying through TD Ameritrade.
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I mean you could say small loan for a business investment. I am essentially qualifying to not tell you to do something illegal.
“I mean you could.... but I wouldn’t.... just saying”
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This is exactly what margin is.
You guys are all retarded thinking this is illegal
A general purpose loan can be used for whatever you'd like.
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Should we be guessing which $22bn company this is or something?
My guess is snap, yah?
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yeah ofc
do you know of any other $22B company losing that much ^^ ^^
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Uber?
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Uber is $60 billion, and private
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Yes I am aware.
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Then why did say it?
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Because I don’t read rhetorical questions fully before responding with retarded answers. I’ve got $MU to buy over here.
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## Speaker_0: ##
What a fuckin loser. I like pharma bros that don't get captured.
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Oh damn now that they locking me up is when you decide to talk shit.
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Guys I just noticed that it isn't really him commenting here lol. Check out the 5 in the username
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Nah I'm real 100%, don't be talkin shit to me alright i'm already having a rough day u handsome-ass nigga.
## Speaker_2: ##
Wu tang or not true.
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Wu tang only for my realest niggas and you not there yet
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## Speaker_0: ##
I used to be just like you, and then after a lot of lurking and seeing everybody making easy money on SPY options, I got into options around December. Now I've lost it all.
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When I first started investing I carried The Little Book of Common Sense Investing around like it was the book of Mormon and followed all the reasonable guidelines it set forth. But investing in index funds was just soooo fucking boooring. There was nothing to look forward to, just little baby steps further into financial stability each day. After I got into options everything changed. There is something to look forward to now. There are things to fear now. The cold sweats I've been waking up in recently remind me that I am alive. I would take colossal, life altering losses over boring index funds any day of the week .
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This sub cracks me up just because of the absolute reckless abandon of self preservation. I was hooked as well when 25k magically turned into 50k due to options. It was all gone within a week because I decided the next step was week out options over earnings night. We go for broke.
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Where do I learn about options?
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Trial and error is generally the best way to learn
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Uhhhhh movie pass is at 52 cents. How’s a call at 3$ up
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Was at $2 earlier
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wouldn't it still be OTM at $2?
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You have no idea how options work. Just be quiet.
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No. Jesus, your entire comment history is just cussing at people asking questions. Who hurt you?
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I bet it's JNUG. Muh baby.
I had similar gains, except it was a ~40% and in the course of ~10 days, not just one day.
Nice trade btw
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Mostly UVXY Puts actually. Closed them all out today. Added GPRO Calls. It may not reach it's previous high of 98+, but at 16.05, with the first product refresh in years, and volume coming in strong, it should have legs.
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Honestly, I think GOPRO will have a nice pop. Like... Really nice. Next earnings. People who like Drones will buy GoPro's drone because it's a good product (Portable, etc) And cheap, and people who don't own drones but were thinking about it will buy it because it's cheap and good.
I think they will absolutely explode the earnings. I might do options then.
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I think I know 2 people with drones and they sit in a closet.
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How do you know these people if they're stuck inside all day?
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Everything you need to know about GS: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405
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A president could win my vote on the sole promise of firing the Sherman Anti-Trust cannon at them.
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If only the average voting idiot knew what that meant.
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Exactly. Education, education, education is the only thing that is going to fix this mess. But that requires spending money on public education, which our society cannot do, because it requires delayed gratification.
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>But that requires spending money on public education, which our society cannot do
GOD I HATE THIS FUCKING MEME
America spends MORE ON EDUCATION PER CAPITA THAN ALL BUT 4 NATIONS ON EARTH you dumb shits. More money won't solve the *quality* of our education, if the last $5000 per capita didn't, another $5000 won't.
There are systemic issues to solve, and money will not fucking solve them.
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We will officially be in a bear market before the end of next week.
Edit: https://wifflegif.com/gifs/650296-the-eric-andre-show-hannibal-buress-gif
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lol no chance
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your a faggot dude. you don't know shit
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Yup. 3 years of hedge fund experience, 2 years of valuation experience, a year of corporate development, and on level 3 of the CFA exam this summer. I don't know anything.
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You clearly don't know how the world works. Keep buying that dip son.
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Idk sounds like you're talking out your ass to someone way above your pay grade.
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As a lefty I just want to say how much of a loser Clinton is for not being able to beat trump. Like holy shit. Anyone else would’ve easily beaten this guy. Stupid bitch
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All the Dems had to do was send somebody to the election who wasn't one of the most hated people in america. I'm not even convinced that she had a better chance to win than Bernie did. And no way was that dude getting in
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The polling showed sanders was more favorable vs trump than clinton was.
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Ironically, the super-delegate system that fucked Sanders was originally designed to prevent nominating an unelectable candidate. Kind of hilarious how that backfired.
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Right. Since it wasn't used then, its only purpose is going to be to screw over a progressive candidate in the future. Which would piss off enough people to ensure another loss. Maybe they should just get rid of it instead of screwing themselves over with it eventually. (Note, I think they did scale it back a little now but it's still there)
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I'd hate to be his lawyer. Tells him to stfu, but he can't help but continue running his mouth. "Hey congress, why are my goons harder than yours?"
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yeah, congress is not a group of people I would want to make public enemies with!
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Second most powerful group of people in the world after the US Federal Reserve. Great idea to just openly fuck with them.
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Yeah right. Why don't you look up the video of Congress fellating Jamie Dimon.
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To be fair... it's Jamie Dimon. I mean... You wouldn't?
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This just hit me, but whichever company is doing accounting for tsla, the balls of that.
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It's PwC, and I assume they don't already have a going concern issue because PwC wants to continue being their auditor.
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Hasn’t PwC recently been embroiled in a controversy of its own? (Might be thinking of EY)
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You’re thinking of KPMG.
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No, they're a golf apparel company.
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[I love the smell of five figure gains in the morning (~4%)](https://imgur.com/gallery/PcJrF)
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You going to hold those calls through December earnings?
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Yes. Jan’s are ‘19. Might sell Aprils if the share price blows through $60
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Yo Marty is it worth it to wait for a MU dip, and if so, what would that even look like? Down .5%?
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I waited for a dip into the high $30s and missed out on over 10% run. I decided to buy calls last week and it’s up over 6% since. I’d recommend buying in and holding for a while, should be $60+ sometime early next year
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Thanks man. Their PEG is .36 based off of expected earnings over the next 5 years. Obviously I'm here so fundamentals aren't really my thing.... but I think that actually implies it should *already* be at least twice the price at this very moment.
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They should earn $9-10 per share in FY18, at their current PE the PT would be $90-100. If PE multiple expands, rocket time (but I'm not holding out hope for that).
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Yuge buy at $12 yeesh
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Probably triggered a bunch of stop-losses from shorts.
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The fuck is a stop loss
Edit: I know guys, just keeping it funny.
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An "order" placed to stop your loss.
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Sounds low energy.
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2017 is the best year of all time
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Worst year for trolls
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Trump is still trolling..
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You think he doesn't hate his life right now? And it's clear he can no longer fuel his ego with the assurance of envy
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All he wanted was a tv network/show and to bitch about Hillary for 4 years or more and rake in those ad dollars.
Now he has to try and act like an adult and "work."
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After the run up it just went through. Yes. Study charts. Don’t buy at highs.
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But the market is almost always at an all time high.
Maybe study a little harder?
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It’s a little early to be drunk
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When would such a time be? Asking for a friend.
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Now is fine
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Bought 10 Nov 17 calls for $15 yesterday. Currently up 30%!
Also bought 1,000 shares at $21.916 back in April. Currently down 30%!
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Congrats now you're currently down.. a metric shit ton!
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DOWN 20% AH WHAT THE FUCK
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lol it's cool bruh just another "learning experience"
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This whole wsb is a "learning experience"
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You want us to believe that you're able to read?
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Yeah nobodies falling for that shit.
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How would he post to reddit if he was illiterate?
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Probably his mum posts for him, just like mine!
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That doesn't make sense. Does your mom then read every post for you, too?
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You must be new here
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I truly hope this guy inverses himself if he still actually controls his portfolio. Better yet hopefully he pays someone else to manage it.
If the report was false wouldn’t JNJ just sue the living shit out of Reuters? Seems to me the best course of action would be prove it’s false and hten put that out instead of inflaming one of the biggest news networks in the world but I don’t know.
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It’s correct though and they’ve lost lawsuits before because of it.
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Fake news, $4.62 bln award is of course being appealed. But, that trial is gonna be amazingly boring with science and numbers and jury's hate that shit, so appeal could go down in flames.
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You act like a jury would settle this. This is probably a bench trial.
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I don't know how it would work and you're probably right I was talking out of my ass.
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Palms sweaty, indicators weak, bag is heavy, the NUG has dropped so much already, portfolios unsteady, I'm nervous.
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but on the surface he look calm and ready, to buy the dip, but he keeps on forgetting, that he's broke now
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Tickers dropping, Pow!
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$SNAP back to reality
fucked by volatility
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He knows it's not that easy
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Peas and spaghetti
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You brought shame to WSB. We only accept autism here not downs.
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yeah pm me your SSN
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457-55-5462
My name's Todd. Please send me some inflation, thanks.
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Mother's maiden name?
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But what was your favorite pet growing up?
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Harambe
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rip
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## Speaker_0: ##
Trump said rates are being kept lower to bolster Obama's legacy. "Any increase at all will be a very, very small increase because they want to keep the market up so Obama goes out and let the new guy ... raise interest rates ... and watch what happens in the stock market."
dude just hits the nail on the head every time.
OH WAIT NEVERMIND MARK CUBAN JUST TWEETED ITS ALL TRUMPS FAULT.
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Can't wait to have a president who just calls everybody out on all this bullshit
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You guys are kidding right? I know this sub is retarded, but Trump supporter retarded?
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You're kidding right? I knew this sub was retarded, but "all trump supporters must be retarded" retarded?
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All trump supporters are retarded, this much should be obvious by now.
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Oh look we found ourselves a Bernout trying to make money from all the donations he gave out.
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"No refunds."
-Barney Sandals
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If I made less than $200k I'd kill myself so it wouldn't matter anyway
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Lol sad. I can live off 40k a year easy and comfortably.
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please don't tell me you bathe yourself
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Hell no. Leave that for the meek. Did i say 40 a year i meant 40k a day now get of my back i have a world to rule!
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40k a day? You can't even afford an air yacht with that kind of money. Pathetic tbh.
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I’d backtest your theory with historic stocks that are in the same situation as Tsla and see how it works
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I honestly don't know how I'd even begin to go about doing that. I mean, how do I determine if a company was in the same situation as Tesla? There has likely never been an exact match. I imagine if I did find a way to back test this strategy though that it would be horribly ineffective.
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Hmm you can start by googling companies with the same bond rating at tsla with a similar P/E level at its peak
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Tesla doesn't even have a P/E because they've never been profitable. They are trading at about 4 times sales though
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Thanks for correcting me
Use some kind of metric like that which you can peg across all of the companies
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VTB for not showing positions
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[https://imgur.com/LJ1rPMr](https://imgur.com/LJ1rPMr)
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And what were your other positions to get to that $30k?
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All you have to do is blow 60,000 dicks it's not that hard man.
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You give blow jobs for 50¢ ?
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Yeah it's a net loss but I'll make up for it in volume.
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Switch to 25 cent hand jobs. You can give 4 hand jobs at the same time.
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RIP u/kmoh74 the guy who put 100k into it
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HE ISN'T EVEN AWAKE YET LMAO
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In for a rude awakening
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I hope if someone is dumb enough to dump 100K in a meme stock merger they were at least smart enough to hedge their position with a few puts.
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Stop putting the word meme in front of everything you dumb faggot.
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So are you a sad excuse for a human being irl or do you just play one on the internet?
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proof this isn't a paper account f4gg05
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http://imgur.com/a/pN2Da
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Congrats OP, you are officially a retard.
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OP just made 600k in one day, how does that make you feel?
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Looks like at least 48 people agreed with him
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God damnit. At close yesterday I was looking at 250% profit. How does this fucking happen.
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You should take your gains instead while they're their. I learned this lesson last year.
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I dont normally trade after hours
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Me neither. Didn't realize you only hit after hours sorry.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Also you can't trade options after hours. If he had a 250% profit he definitely was holding calls.
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## Speaker_0: ##
https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5030883/amp/Cops-handcuff-crying-nine-year-old-autistic-boy.html
## Speaker_1: ##
What a shit article. There was a fight in school because the autistic kid was killing bugs and another kid with compassion didn't like that, autie hit a teacher who tried to break up the fight, cops were called because no teacher who wants to keep their job for another nanosecond will touch a kid anymore, autie got handcuffed and brought outside. Think they could get some quotes from the teachers, or police, or school administrators?
No, they decide to use an interview with the kid's dad. Who might be a bit biased. And wasn't there.
Garbage.
## Speaker_2: ##
Compassion for a bug, get the fuck out of here
## Speaker_3: ##
I can see it. The bug didn’t do anything to the kid.
I’m more concerned that the cops get called over an elementary slap fight. Since when could kids not fight anymore?
## Walls1337bot: ##
>Since when could kids not fight anymore?
Starting in the late eighties. Zero tolerance has become the norm. I got a pink slip for smashing the shit out of a kid in the head with a book for picking on a girl that I liked in grade school after two weeks of bullying. Dude was picking on me, too, and had been for the whole school year. I said fuck that, and I'm pretty sure that I said "Fuck you" in class when I did it. The kid didn't change, but I learned that most adults don't give a flying fuck that day. So all in all, it wasn't a terrible experience.
https://www.wnyc.org/story/rise-and-fall-zero-tolerance-schools/
Basically, schools got sued a lot, and so to maintain appropriately low legal liability (en loco parentis is something I heard a lot about), they just let the cops deal with it. When I was in grade school, cops got called to the school about once a year. That amount increased as I went through public school, until they started putting a school police officer on duty. Then the cops didn't get called, and fights were just let to happen. My guess is that their school cop was off duty or wasn't available that day.
As for why the cops arrested them, they open themselves up for lawsuits (at least in their minds) whenever they don't arrest someone.
At least when they arrest someone, the onus is now on the person arrested to sue in civil court over wrongful arrest, not assault/harassment/etc., as a starting point. Plus, the cops play numbers games with fucking everything - 95% of people plea guilty anyway.
>In 2013, while 8 percent of all federal criminal charges were dismissed (either because of a mistake in fact or law or because the defendant had decided to cooperate), more than 97 percent of the remainder were resolved through plea bargains, and fewer than 3 percent went to trial. The plea bargains largely determined the sentences imposed.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2014/11/20/why-innocent-people-plead-guilty/
I reckon that the number of lawsuits over false/wrongful arrests is also quite low. After all, who's going to pay the $200+ dollars an hour, minimum 4 hours to file the case, plus court costs? And what if you lose? That's easily $3000 for 'justice', when you know in the back of your mind that nobody gives a shit if you or your kid lives or dies.
Plus, if the cop did indeed fuck up, well, the dept will just send him on paid leave. Or the cop can leave the force and then sign up a neighboring county, where they might not check *why* he's signing up there.
shit forgot this was wsb
uhhhhhh
i will donate a tendie to the glorious gods of autism for this autie
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## Walls1337bot: ##
Up 15k in the past two weeks. Had two big losers this morning but came out 3.5k ahead today.
I've had RH options for 2 months but have been trading options for about 1 year.
I've done nothing but do intra-day trades on SPY and SPXL/S itm options. Buy enough contracts to be 10% of my account and ride upwards or downwards trending momentum.
I try and cut my losers quickly as options losses accelerate more quickly but still having trouble selling and not holding losers too long.... Also have issues selling at the top. I've watched a few K in profit evaporate in minutes.
Overall, very happy.
## Speaker_0: ##
whats your signal for buying calls or puts usually? and most importantly what are u buying tmr?
## Walls1337bot: ##
I buy when I can see the shift in momentum heading in one direction, trading trends. If the market seems like it's heading in an upwards direction I'll buy a weekly itm call with a delta of around .75. Same for puts, but opposite.
With just a .5% movement in the SPY you can capture a lot of delta exposure if you're betting in the right direction. But you have to cut your losers and take your profits quickly if you sense the trade is reversing. I also sell everyday so I don't eat a few hundred dollars on
No clue what I'm doing tomorrow.
## Speaker_0: ##
Why is buying .75 delta ITM calls better than buying slightly OTM calls on spy?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Okay so lets say I decide tomorrow the stock market is going up (I have no clue if it's it's going up), so I decide to buy 10k worth of calls.
Let's assume the SPY opens tomorrow morning at today's close, 266.
I'm going to look at the Feb 16 262 Call and the Feb 16 270 Call.
The 262 Call is marked at $5.20 and has a Delta of .73 and a Theta of -.37.
I buy 20 Calls for a total of $10,400.
The 270 call is marked at $.81 and has a Delta of .2475 and a Theta of -.29.
I buy 129 FD Feb 16 270 calls, in true WSB-fashion, for $10,449.
Scenario: The SPY goes up $1 tomorrow, which is a ~.3% move.
So, SPY goes to 267
ITM Option:
(($1 Gain)(.73 Delta)+5.2)*(20 Contracts) = $11,860
With a .3% movement in the SPY you made 14% on your investment and there was little risk for the SPY to drop below it's strike as long as you got out in a reasonable fashion. If you chose to hold through expiry you will only lose 37 cents a day if you believe it is going to keep going up. So you would want an additional dollar in movement upwards on your option price if you were going to hold through expiry.
FD Option
(($1 Gain)(.25 Delta)+.81)*(129 Contracts) = $13,674.
This is roughly a 30% gain on your investment. But the same downwards movement would've blown your position up by 3k AND you're option is going to 29 cents to time decay if you don't sell before close and that would take away more than all of your profits made that day.
Hope you can see how leverage can amplify small gains in the underlying security (.3% movement in SPY generated 10 and 30% movements) but it's even more important to understand why you need to cut your losers short as you don't want a 3k loss.
## Speaker_1: ##
Thank you for the thorough explanation and the breakdown for the gains, this is a quality post
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Thanks!
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## Speaker_0: ##
You are absolutely fucking retarded. He was right twice so he is sec. Lolol
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not the main evidence..
## Speaker_0: ##
im pretty sure it was the main evidence.
the sub going private for a few hours was the main evidence? theres like a million possibilities for that, and you think you picked the one thats right? they wanted to plant a spy, to feed us insider info, to entrap us, and write down user names of who takes it?
dont quote me, but if you dont know its insider information, is that even insider trading?
whats different about him vs the 100 retards saying buy mstx?? how is it any different? you have to be in possession of nonpublic material. this is just a public post that you are following with no material information relevant to 10k.
yea i got insider information from cramer. he said BUY BUY BUY.
ab so lutly
## Speaker_1: ##
main evidence is that he first started posting right after the private fiasco, his language, obvious hinting (or to be fair, joking) about insider info, etc
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Like a Candle in the Wind -- Elton John, I'm so deeply sorry.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Good stuff, this is what I like to see on this subreddit. Please invite me to your yacht party!
## Speaker_1: ##
i'm dreaming of yachts, but it's more than likely I lose the whole thing. But let's focus on the YACHTS!
## Speaker_2: ##
I don't get why you would do it if you think it's more than likely gunna lose, why don't you go for something that you think is more than likely going to win?
## Speaker_3: ##
Because that's how it works broski. High risk = high reward. Something you think will win isn't going to provide the same return, that's just the nature of the game
## Speaker_4: ##
High risk high reward yes, but using the brain, by the end of the day it's called investing and not gambling for a reason.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Umm /r/investing is that way ....
This is a gambling sub
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## Speaker_0: ##
Wtf did you buy?
## Speaker_1: ##
probably MU.
## Walls1337bot: ##
He probably bought, panic sold, bought when it recovered, panic sold again.
## Speaker_2: ##
... you are a god damn Nostradamus... how do you know my trading strategy?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Because when I started trading that is what I did because it was painful to see my money go away. Then I put the majority of my money into solid stocks that I stopped looking at (MSFT, LMT, AMZN, AAPL, BAC, BA) and used 1/4 of my portfolio for volatility plays (ETFs, VIX, semis, cloud, pump and dumps) so I wasn't bored.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I'm in the core audience that they want to buy their bikes.
I can't think of a single reason why I need to look like a faux-degenerate noisy jackass on the weekends, driving around without a helmet, hoping that nobody drives over my ass because they're texting on their mobile phone.
I've seen enough crushed bikes and half-dead "badasses" laying on the ground in Phoenix to last a lifetime.
## Speaker_1: ##
I'd love to buy a Harley to have next to my sport bike. I'm also in the core demographic. I also can't (shouldn't) afford a $30,000 toy.
They're massively over priced for what you get.
## Speaker_2: ##
this right here. why pay for a Harley that fits my 6'5" body in the 15k-30k range (including used) when I can get a new Honda fury (vtwin btw) for 7k?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Seriously, I have better things to drop 30-40k on then a loud ass bike that will piss off my neighbors. Cant even drive that shit in the rain, and about 40% of the year here the roads are covered in 50 shades of fucking black ice. Kind of impractical.
That being said, those trike things are fucking bad ass and I want one.
## Speaker_3: ##
> those **trike** things are fucking **bad ass** and I want one
I don't think I've ever seen those words in the same sentence before
## Walls1337bot: ##
They're almost as cool as those Richard Simmons workout videos.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Ask him if he remembers when GE wasn’t in the DOW
## Speaker_1: ##
I remember selling GE when they spun off their financial division for a quick 10% gain right after I bought it.
Probably my best sell move now that it lost >50%.
## Speaker_2: ##
Spring 2015.. I sold it a day or two before that announcement
## Speaker_1: ##
Well thanks, it's probably your shares that I flipped! ;-P
## Speaker_3: ##
Could you taste his load?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Am I still in r/suddenlygay?
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## Speaker_0: ##
Hes right tho
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I bet that dudes broke
No I guarantee that dude doesnt make anything impressive
## Speaker_2: ##
and you're not?
## Speaker_1: ##
Read my name
Then read the monthly chart on SPY
BTW poor I made this account because people were shit talking my housing construction puts on here. Housing construction ITB is down 40% since last year MFW.
Fucking kill your self
## Walls1337bot: ##
Wow you are an angry and irrational person
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## Speaker_0: ##
Omfg close some of that shit off
## Speaker_1: ##
Close *all* of those positions. None of these will expire in the money.
## Speaker_2: ##
what makes you say that
## Speaker_1: ##
MU is trading at $51 and China just banned sales of their chips which accounts for 50% of their revenue. What makes you think this will get to $65 in the next month?
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.... autism?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Correct Answer.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I was really thinking that this was a shit post, but in case it’s not, your position didn’t really have a massive increase in value, your broker is using the midpoint between the bid and the ask as a proxy for value.
There’s actually no bid (no one wanting to buy these) and an asking price of $4.80. There was no volume today and it looks like your contracts make up the entirety of the open interest on this option.
Someone please mod this autist!!!
## Speaker_1: ##
Wait so I'm still down like that, why the fuck do I have the money then wtf
## Walls1337bot: ##
better take out that money b4 they catch you
## Speaker_1: ##
I can't take it out! WTF do I do
## Walls1337bot: ##
do you have a good lawyer?
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## Speaker_0: ##
For those who haven't passed algebra, this is roughly a $516,550 gain from an initial investment of $32,975.
You god damn savage.
## Speaker_1: ##
Algebra is for faggots, all i need is two colors red and green.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Yeah but you can generalize any stock market chart into a continuous function. And from there you can apply the stone weirstrass theorem, which is pretty reliant on studies in algebra. You can uniformly approximate any such curve on any compact Hausdorff space X, with the sub-algebras of C(x).
It's basically free money you're missing out on, for being an uneducated dumb fuck.
Edit: Take your gold back faggot.
## Speaker_2: ##
Can you ELI5?
## Walls1337bot: ##
> Compact Hausdorff space
Just think of the closed interval [a,b] or from the IPO to the present.
> sub-algebra of C(X)
Just think of polynomial equations. ax^n + ... + bx + c. Some function. For example, f(x) = x^2 + 2x + 1.
The theorem is saying that for any continuous function (a graph that you can draw without picking your pencil off the page), on an interval [a,b], there exists a polynomial equation that will approximate your graph within an error as small as you'd like. Basically a formula that will show how that graph moves exactly.
Bonus points if you can figure out why it isn't useful for the stock market, even though it sounds like it would be incredibly helpful.
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## Speaker_0: ##
like him or not, props for calling out the fed for holding interest rates low for political reasons
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I think they're holding them low so the country doesn't collapse...
## Speaker_0: ##
i agree with you to some degree but in acting as they have, they've become a political prop for the dems to point to the "strength" of the economy during an election year
## Speaker_1: ##
The president is the only democrat with a majority. The House and Senate are heald by Republicans. So who's responsible for propping it up? I really don't give a shit just saying. As long as markets go up and down daddyrango goes for the green.
## Speaker_0: ##
correct---but the average voter understands jack shit about the economy which makes it is an easy win for the democrats to take credit for a 'strong' economy because the fed will never come out and say "we're trying our hardest to keep you robinhood fags afloat"
## Speaker_1: ##
Lol we're all doomed anyway. TeflonHilldog got this in the bag. Trump can barely speak in complete sentences God bless him.
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He was drunk or on that white girl I skeem
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## Speaker_0: ##
Pics of mom or didn't happen
## Speaker_1: ##
https://gyazo.com/5ca790dd6e9c817f923144054604ecd3 She said no real pics so here is my interpertation
## Speaker_2: ##
This man just drew his mothers tits... what a sick fucker.
## Speaker_1: ##
I am autistic, not sick. Asshole
## Walls1337bot: ##
autiSICK
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## Speaker_0: ##
Bought 1 ITM AMZN call last Thursday during the huge gap down. Sold Friday morning.
Bought two more Friday during the EOD dip and sold yesterday morning.
The small downtrends during the day was from holding some shitty MU calls. Sold them yesterday, might have broken even if I held until today.
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What expiry
## Speaker_0: ##
Weeklies. The ones I had last week expired last Friday. The ones I got rid of yesterday expire this coming Friday.
Gotta get that sweet AMZN delta.
## Walls1337bot: ##
What does it mean the delta? Delta is good?
## Speaker_0: ##
The delta is how much an options premium will increase if the stock price goes up $1.
ITM weeklies will typically be about 0.5 to 0.6
AMZN will regularly move +/- $10 in a day. So...
$10 * 0.5 * 100 shares mean you will gain $500 if AMZN moves 10 points of the correct direction of your call or put.
## Walls1337bot: ##
But there is also theta or something the value of options value will decrease by days right
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## Speaker_0: ##
maybe be done "trading" (lol) as you call it, and actually put your money in quality, reliable, but slow growth stocks instead. And keep maybe 2k +gold to continue gambling with like what youve clearly been doing with your entire account
## Speaker_1: ##
But that's no fun
Also obligatory..../r/investing is that way buddy
## Speaker_2: ##
no, thats the difference between not being an moron and being moron. Nothing wrong with gambling, but risk managment is key.
## Speaker_1: ##
We literally have no idea what this dude's portfolio is though
## Speaker_0: ##
i mean... look at his graph. We bassically know his portfolio. We at least know its not in blue chips. Im gonna go with x3 bull/bear gold etfs.
## Speaker_3: ##
I started out with VTI, AMD, APPL, CSCO, and a few others. It wasn't until last week that i started gambling on JDST and JNUG with hopes of being on the right side of the rate hike. I switched sides 3 times and lost every damn time.
## Walls1337bot: ##
> APPL
Well there's your problem.
## Speaker_3: ##
How so? I made a bit of money off apple more than once.
## Walls1337bot: ##
The ticker is AAPL you fucking retard
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## Speaker_0: ##
So basically hedge with puts, a month out, the very second it shuts down (which it will, this govt has more autists then this sub)
## Speaker_1: ##
> this govt has more autists then this sub
I bought 250k shares of MU yesterday because of a thread on this sub. I'm already seeing gainz. Autistic as WSB can be, i'll always trust my WSB Rainman brothers.
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Proof or gtfo
## Speaker_1: ##
I'll type it as I cant upload pics from work.
$MU - 250,000.00 - $44.39
## Speaker_3: ##
If you could really afford to blow $10M+ on a meme you wouldn't be at work
## Walls1337bot: ##
maybe he counts doing lines, and spanking it on his yacht "work"
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## Speaker_0: ##
The FED does not care about profit. Quite literally. It's an institution that can increase their balance sheet as they see fit. There's no ceiling except political pressure.
The goal of the FED is to keep inflation and unemployment low. This is their success criteria, not profit. If they had to, for whatever insane reason, buy defaulted Argentinian bonds at par value and then promptly write off the losses - they would do so.
Or in other words - the FED is a non-profit organization. Much like the federal government.
## Speaker_1: ##
Well that’s great for banks unloading trash
## Speaker_0: ##
This is the political pressure part.
Also, money isn't real, it's a virtual tool/story. The sooner you realize that the sooner things make more sense.
## Speaker_1: ##
It makes sense I’m just mad I been busting my ass a decade and can’t afford anything at all
## Speaker_2: ##
Inflation has never been lower over a decade than the last ten years so you’re blaming the wrong people.
## Speaker_1: ##
False
## Walls1337bot: ##
Mods - 15 day old poor fuck who seems to be retarded. Can we get a ban here
## Speaker_1: ##
least your flair is accurate in real life
## Walls1337bot: ##
Yeah no shit bitch.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Get on my level bought 100 shares at $30 sold at $27.
## Speaker_1: ##
holy shit LOL
## Speaker_0: ##
Proof: http://imgur.com/Mv0rjG3
## Speaker_1: ##
WSB legend. why did you sell at the time?
## Speaker_0: ##
I ~~was~~ am a pussy
## Speaker_1: ##
damn son you faggot, to date you missed a $32,900 gain
what have you sold recently?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Nice one, you wana inverse him huh?!! ;)))
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## Speaker_0: ##
Don’t let Bernie Sanders see this he is gonna be so pist
## Speaker_1: ##
Bro I hate it when my fellow liberals attack Jeffy B, Zuckdawg, Musk, and Kylie Jenner.
## Speaker_2: ##
Yeah, I just kinda hate when my fellow liberals just blindly attack the rich in general. I'm a liberal Democrat who voted for bernie, and all these " oh this CEO gets paid too much" things piss me off to no end. What they get paid doesn't matter, it's what they pay people under them that does.
Don't punish success, just make sure it's not built on people's backs.
## Speaker_3: ##
I mean, they wouldn’t be getting paid as much if they were paying employees more in the first place. Your argument doesn’t make much sense in that way. But I get what you mean.
## Speaker_4: ##
Are you retarded?
It's not like CEOs make 100% of profit and it's not like the board has the choice between paying the CEO or spreading that money out among everyone else.
CEOs can continue to make what they make *and* entry-level employees can get paid more. They are not diametrically opposed ideas.
## Speaker_3: ##
When people say “CEOs” they usually are referring to executives in general, not just the one person, lol. And it is no secret that employee wage cuts are usually at the expense of executive payment packages. There *is* a finite amount of profit to be shared and every cent that goes in the executive’s pockets is a cent that won’t go to the employees. People are angry because executives and boards continue to raise their own wages but not employee wages even when they already make millions.
Obviously, this isn’t the case with Bezos who made his wealth from share prices skyrocketing. But to ignore the issue between lower-level employee wage stagnation and executive compensation, and the clear negative correlation between the two, is retarded.
## Walls1337bot: ##
> When people say “CEOs” they usually are referring to executives in general, not just the one person, lol
So these people don't know anything about this topic and yet they somehow have strong opinions on the matter?
>And it is no secret that employee wage cuts are usually at the expense of executive payment packages. There is a finite amount of profit to be shared and every cent that goes in the executive’s pockets is a cent that won’t go to the employees.
Not really. The top level executives make a fraction of what the rest of the workers make as a sum. A 10% increase on top level executives might be something like 0.1% of the total pay of the rest of the workers.
> People are angry because executives and boards continue to raise their own wages but not employee wages even when they already make millions.
People are making more money, especially office jobs. Median income in 2016 (last year reported) was highest ever, adjusted for inflation. Sure, there is a concern that the top are taking more of the increasing larger pie, but that doesn't excuse the lies and misinformation.
## Speaker_5: ##
> So these people don't know anything about this topic and yet they somehow have strong opinions on the matter?
haha are you surprised? This is reddit after all, where people that have never taken an Econ course can say with a straight face that going full communism is a good idea.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Yeah, this is annoying. You won't see me going into /r/Nepal and complaining about their politics without knowing crap about it. People really should educate themselves before forming strong opinions on a topic.
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## Walls1337bot: ##
Lol I put ~30k in every single thing I buy every single time. Diversification is for 401ks. 1 dollar per share gains = 10 bills almost always. ALL IN FULL MARGIN BB
## Speaker_0: ##
Not sure if you are serious?
## Walls1337bot: ##
I'm absolutely serious. I set stops at exactly my entries to avoid things getting bad. I've got 25k in XIV as I type this, 12k of that being margin dollars. Don't act like I'm weird homie, you do the same thing!
## Speaker_1: ##
this is cool until you get cucked one day
## Walls1337bot: ##
Yeah its risky as balls but the stops have been working for me really well. I've been doing this since 2015, haven't blown up yet. When you put shitloads of money in something, it hardly has to move at all for you to get a decent chunk of change. I don't have to hold out for huge moves, 25-50 cents is usually more than enough.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Damnnnn, girls hot
## Speaker_1: ##
It's this kind of degeneracy that makes women feel disempwoered in finance ;)
## Speaker_2: ##
Yo word check on disempowered.
## Speaker_1: ##
Spelling is a tool of the patriarchal oppressor
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Fucking stop
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## Speaker_0: ##
Ive said it b4, but I stand behind my convictions... Good, let it all fucking fall... Americans did this shit to themselves, let them drown in their own corrupt bullshit... Fuck this country, as soon as I’m debt free, I’m out... Fuck America
## Speaker_1: ##
Where you gonna go?
## Speaker_0: ##
Elsewhere, Its a big fucking world out there... Does it really matter. Americans are the worst, so Ill just go anywhere that doesn’t offer fast food and Ill be good
## Walls1337bot: ##
>Ill just go anywhere that doesn’t offer fast food
You have in-n-out, wendy's, popeyes, large portions and low prices. Stop taking it for granted. There are many of us out there can only dream about it.
## Speaker_0: ##
Wanna trade places then
## Walls1337bot: ##
I have no doubt you'd find every reason to hate my country too, so nah. I owe them this much.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I worked for millionaire at this time, did three seasons overall. This was the most tense episode we did, he guessed his way to the top pretty much.
He cried afterwards
## Speaker_1: ##
Do you have the link to the real episode?
Edit' https://youtu.be/NHmpLT7RNHE
## Speaker_2: ##
Lemme get this straight; even *after* seeing the question, he could’ve said “naw” and taken the $500,000?? And he still went for it??
## Speaker_3: ##
he even said himself he would regret walking away when he could have won more than he would losing what he already had.
I wonder if he really thought that one through.
Because I think I would definitely regret losing a guaranteed 475,000$ more than I would regret missing my chance at a possible extra 500k on top of it. Half a million dollars when you have nothing is a big deal, not getting another half a million when you already have half a million is more of a first world problem.
Hell, I think I wouldn't take the risk in that situation even if was like 90% sure of the answer. He was just *guessing*.
## Speaker_2: ##
I would absolutely take the $500,000 if I had no idea on the answer after seeing the question. That’s like a free pass.
## Speaker_4: ##
Mods, can we get this guy banned? We don't need this normie trash around here
## Speaker_2: ##
Risking $425,000 worth of gainz on a question you don’t know the answer to isn’t anywhere close to the same thing as betting on stocks using options...
## Walls1337bot: ##
But he had a 25% chance, much higher than ppl here with their MU 90 calls for July...
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Cant afford a decent hooker, will drive around the track tonight, pick up something I can afford.
If I catch aids I'll blame elon
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Go get a run and tug bro.
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Around here those go for 80.
After what elon did to my fd calls, my price range is 20-40$
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Put the massage on your credit card throw her a 20 afterwards and report the transaction as fraudulent. You can’t lose!
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Got to shop around for a place that takes credit cards.
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I don't believe in Roku. I know it's a great pump & dump at this moment, but I don't think it'll break trough.
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I didn't know they still existed until they had an IPO.
Threw it in the dumpster years ago for a $20 Amazon firestick.
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Every fifth TV sold in the US comes built in with Roku.
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Wish I knew how shit it was before I bought mine.
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IDK what kind of furry midget porn you guys are watching that is breaking your Roku but I've had mine since 2011 and it works great.
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The TV force restarts at least once per night when watching Netflix or Sling.
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Stop downloading a TB of gay Russian horsefucker porn to your TV then
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Why would it be illegal? Unless you can prove they are intentionally putting out incorrect information, nothing they are doing is illegal.
They are in a fortunate place where anything they say will change the price of the stock. However, they don't have insider information(they do their own research and publish it), and they have never been accused of putting out false info after they get burned on a short(facebook).
Warren Buffet sharing a negative opinion on a company would have the same results.
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yeah but that's warren fucking buffet....citron looks like some half assed youtube channel....why are they given so much weight?
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They had one very very good call.
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Followed by a bunch of pure garbage. But you're right, the Valeant call was good.
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It seems like after Valeant they got a rep for being easy to make money on, they still had the pull to tug a price down (as seen with $shop), but all they do now is screenshot instagram ads and youtube videos, so we know buy the dip, they know shorting will be profit, and the other firms know not to take them too seriously.
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Tanking SHOP by more than 10% means more than a few firms are believing this nonsense.
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Shoutout to /u/off21z00 for the great fucking tip! You are a true inverse hero.
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Currently in the process of scheduling an IRL 1v1 death match between /u/iamablubfish & /u/off21z00
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Sry everyone! Thought they weren't gonna cut the dividends and the layoff announcements would pick it up
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Ahaha who knew right? You were just pumping darts out of your ass. Who the fuck knows where it lands right? Hell you don't know even if there's a board for those shitty darts to land on. Put a disclaimer when you post a suggestion next time saying you actually have no fucking clue what you are talking about and just flipping a coin really
No but seriously, next time you have a thought. Let me know. I need free inverse money you nimrod.
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Did you actually buy that shit based on the in depth analysis the well known, talented, and proven u/off21z00 provided you? What a fucking scam. You and u/IAmABlubFish should file a class action lawsuit in my professional opinion. Trust me.
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I love that statue. Nothing conceptualized how annoying dumb women got in the way of productivity and progress for no other reason than to project their insecurities to the world, than that statue did. Hope it makes a return!
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That statue was fake news considering the company that put it up got sued for female wage gap
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reeeeeee female wage gap. why don’t firms hire all women if the gap is real? lmao
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Kitchen can only fit so many
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What an original and funny joke!!!!!!
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It's funny because your dumb ass got triggered
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First of all, I wanted to give myself a pat on the back for reading that ENTIRE post.
Secondly
>I am 99.9% certain AAPL is going to plummet post-earnings, but as there always is no way for me to know for sure.
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If all else fails (which it probably will) , I think you have a bright future being a writer at Motley Fool.
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Maybe I'm an idiot, but after reading that entire post, I'm in for some Apple puts. Not yoloing, but the logic is pretty sound.
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it is not. laughable to any professional.
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you're laughable to any professional.
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I feel you bro. Glad you’re here, but I still have to do this
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Put some white powder on your nose. 2 mins before interview.
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that's 1980s shit, all the Wall Street guys are on adderall and modafanil now
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Are they really? That shit will only destroy a person's brain over time.
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Multiple neuroscientific studies have concluded that you are incorrect. At least with regard to people being treated for ADHD.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3801446/
"The meta-regression analysis with long-term stimulant medication use showed that the percentage of patients on long-term stimulant medication correlated significantly with increasing activation in the right caudate tail (r = 0.233, permutation-derived P < .001), so that medication-naive patients had significantly reduced activation compared with healthy controls (z = 2.149, P < .001) and with long-term medicated patients (z = 1.646, P < .001), who did not differ from each other (Figure 3)."
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1485446
"Our review of structural and functional neuroimaging studies finds no evidence that stimulant treatment negatively impacts brain development or function. In contrast, these studies suggest that stimulant treatment attenuates the brain abnormalities that have been associated with ADHD."
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0447.2011.01786.x/abstract;jsessionid=C780E5BA97F80D44A4F67CBC02B184C0.f02t01
"Basal ganglia regions like the right globus pallidus, the right putamen, and the nucleus caudatus are structurally affected in children with ADHD. These changes and alterations in limbic regions like ACC and amygdala are more pronounced in non-treated populations and seem to diminish over time from child to adulthood. Treatment seems to have positive effects on brain structure."
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LOL, okay AIDS lady. Enjoy your amphetamines.
Let me be clear: I am not asking any of you to prove me wrong. This is not up for debate. You feel the need to overcompensate with hyperbolically emotional rhetoric and vitriol, and this entire time, I have calmly repeated the same basic tenets. Why do you think that is? Which one of us is certain of their position? Which one is emotionally invested and desperate? Like I said before. Go ahead and weaken yourselves. It makes it much easier for me to win.
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Win a dick in the butt?
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how much did you have in the market?
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I've been long on DXCM since it was $7. Yesterday, ABT announced FDA approval of a competing product.
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> DXCM
You didn't sell it off did you? Do they have any other products or upcoming trials?
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Nah, as pointed out by the hater below, this is just a paper loss.
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Why do you care then?
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[As an Australian during winter](https://i.imgur.com/UHnlrWd.mp4)
The queue for early access to RobinHood here has been going for 3 years. Come on you cunts!
Incidentally, are there any RH alternatives for Aussies? Found something called Stake, but it's literally a squarespace website which makes me seriously question its clout.
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Regulators needs to increase competition in the banking space and hopefully this inquiry will be a catalyst for new fintech
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You expect a royal commission into predatory bank behavior that has uncovered literally tens of thousands of criminal breaches (CBA alone is facing 13,000 charges) is going to recommend allowing the general population easy access to faggy Ds?
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Yup! Scott Morrison is pushing for greater competition in the banking space
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You mean greater competition in the market to drain the savings of fuckwits, the big 4 banks have a had a monopoly on that for way too long.
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The banks are too greedy profiting off autistic people like us so they should share the tendies
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so do u use any particular indicators? lin reg?
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Just MACD, 100SMA, 150SMA, and 200SMA
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Wow, even a voodoo technical analysis can work wonders.
But seriously, I know a momentum strat HF manager that uses the same plus volume, and he uses an algo to conduct trades. He believes the key to long-term success is to never risk more than 50% of liquid assets since you can still recover. Might be a decent strat for you to use.
If you don’t mind me asking, is this like FU money or your life savings? And you ever think trading futures or forex using a systematic strategy? It seems like you’d have a knack for it.
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Just out of college working a tedious job, so I don’t mind risking it all for the next year or so trying to reach enough money to trade full time. And it’s too much fun anyhow.
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It’s just one mistake could wreck you. As fun as it is gambling, a single loss now is potentially millions lost in future gains. Def try to get into trading futures and forex because I think you’d like it, but first you’ll need a better brokerage.
Anyway, goodluck! Hope to see you post again with a multi-million dollar portfolio.
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I'm fucking retarded but how does bond yield increasing affect equities
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�� risk free return = ☹️ equity risk premium
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Which is dumb to me. Equities still have shown no sign of slowing, the only reason they’ve dipped is because bond yields have gone up. I’d rather take the risk than make peanuts on a bond
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Yes but you’re in a sub filled with people who enjoy risk.
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Well...I guess that’s true. More people need to be like us though. Imagine a mod as a Fed chairman? Moon ride
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Economy would overheat and then we'd crash worse than 87.
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Hate people who make these pics. yeh everything is simple with hindsight.
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It’s fucking stupid. Amazon IPO’d at $18 a pop in 97’.
Don’t we all wish we could of jumped on that tendies train?
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Beats my parents sold around 20k of amazon in 2009 for 70ish and rebought amazon at 700 in 2015ish. Still made bank but god damn they missed out
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It depends what they did with the money. I sold 15 shares of Disney at 102 and it’s at 110 now. Did I miss out? No, because I used the money to buy 26 shares of square at $60, which is now at $67. That decision netted me $62, but if I had only told you the first part, you wouldn’t know that.
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Held in ally savings for like 1%
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eh. They also didn't lose the fucking lot and made a tidy profit so yeah
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They panic sold in 2009 and didn’t rebuy till I wasted 400 bucks prime day in 2015. All the dd my mom needed
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I saw this post. The suggestion from that thread was to buy CD with 2% annual interest
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index funds were too risky
everyone who suggested them got downvoted
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Index funds risky?
Christ do these people freak out over loosing pocket change in the drier as much as they do with stocks?
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I mean to be fair he said he needs the money in less than 2 years. If he actually needs *all* of the money then a CD is really the right option. Especially at the markets current valuation. It is not at all unrealistic that that 25k could easily be 20k in 2 years if we go through a significant crash/bear market. If you actually need all of X money in 2 years putting it in the market is stupid period.
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Lol nigga got cucked by inflation. He lost 12%. HE LOST 12% OF HIS GAINS YOU FUCKING AUTISTS. JESUS CHRIST.
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Wtf you talking about
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He didnt outpace inflation. This is econ 101. He gained dollars but lost value. Should have invested in MU instead of nerdy Vanguard
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Do you know the current inflation rate? It’s much lower than 9.4%
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Do you know how to compound inflation?
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Do you know how to compound interest?
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Yes, you do it by term. Unlike inflation, which is a continuous variable.
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Both are continuous variables. And if you invested years ago half the portfolio in SPX and half in low-yield bonds, you're still very much above inflation
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Stocks returns aren't continuous. They have open and close times.
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It shouldn’t even be a question at this point but yes it’s real.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1055882299756109824
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Who’s gonna make the bot that fact checks Elon’s tweets?
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Be the change you seek
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And the coder we aren't ♥️
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Why did you leave
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I couldn't handle your pill poppin hooooer mother kiddo
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Can't Goldman just short themselves? I'm sure Bank of America did..
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I would absolutely love to see the SEC shitstorm that results from that.
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Not straight short stock, or buy puts/sell naked calls or whatever you want to see as "normal" shorting of a company, but surely through some sort of *exotic* derivative a bank could essentially short itself. Maybe not legally, but if 2008 taught me anything is the banks can basically ruin the world economy and you might have a few folks go to jail.
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Might if you are in finland, otherwise you get bonuses for doing it.
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It seems like if the bank is big enough you have an incentive to make reckless gambles. Bigger the better. It can’t be big enough that it would destroy the bank, it needs to be bigger; big enough that it would actually cause a once a generation recession if the gamble doesn’t work.
So yes, I’m sure not only would they not get in trouble but they would use tax payer funded bailout to get bonuses. By they I mean the executives; the poor folks that actually execute the plan will get fired, which I guess is probably better than jail.
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Pffft. 2008 wasn't shit. Let's talk about the tech bubble. Mother fuckers were really using the ropes, not just joking.
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I was mid 20s, green, and traded thru 2008 ok. Wild PnL swings but net green, if only a few K.
I agree, tech bubble was way worse. Most 2008 stocks not only survived, but went on to make 10x-100x new all times highs. If you simply closed your eyes and held on tight, you made out well.
In DotCom bust, many tickers straight up *disappeared*.
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Yeah man. Fortunes were made leading up to it and lost after. I was early 20's then, it was way before I knew anyone doing any serious online trading. I had some shares of this and that but nothing huge. The valuations and fucking stock options they were giving their tech talent was absolutely mind blowing.
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What was also crazy was that those tech bubble packages were ridiculous - there was *nothing* in these companies. No product, no sales, no supply chain, just an *idea*. I talked to a girl who worked for one of those companies, she had a finance degree from a state school, no special connections, performed some meaningless administrative function for them, had a job that paid 25k..... ***a month***, stock options which fucking ballooned over 30x original. It was a dream world, then some time in 2000 she showed up to work and the company was *gone*, no call, no notice, just done.
Crazy.
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Crazy. 25k a month, even if it lasted a few years a person could be set. But I'm sure most of them thought it would go on forever so they yolo'd the fuck out of that shit.
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Lol, how’s your electric vehicle program going there Ford? No one is going to want to buy an ICE vehicle in 5 years when it loses 90% of it’s value the second you drive it off the lot.
By the way, anyone want to buy a used pager off of me?
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Do electric engines not depreciate in the same manner? Or just current demand for the supply of this meme?
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Nope. Because of there being less moving parts electric motors can work for crazy long times, and because of Tesla’s advanced cell chemistry and battery temperature control the batteries don’t depreciate their capacity as fast like our cellphone batteries do. 1.6 million Kilometre warranties baby! (But this should be true for any manufacturer making EVs)
But the real reason ICEs are going to lose value so fast is when they reach the “tipping point” in public perception. If you’re in the market for a 45,000$ truck today, you have a good idea that it will have *some* trade in value 5 years from now. However, at some point everyone will realize EVs are taking over, and it buying a brand new ICE vehicle won’t make a lot of sense. At some point car dealers won’t be able to *give* ICE xars away. Tony Seba does a really good presentation on this that you can find on youtube. His timeline is 2022 for the tipping point, but who knows. (Norway just hit theirs BTW, over 50% new vehicles being sold their are EVs)
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You are WAYYYYY underestimating the effort it takes to establish the local, state, and federal level of battery charging infrastructure needed to actually DD an electric vehicle around the US. So many layers of every part of our democracy.
Until we reach both the availability of charging stations as well as the same recharge time VS filling up a gas tank, this 'tipping point' where we all decide to just go electric is decades off.
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We got a defective unit over here, subject Jzsjx9jjqz is refusing to join the circlejerk, I repeat, we have a code 9, subject is not jerking
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I'm not against all electric vehicles at all, but you either need to be able to store a week's worth of driving in an 8 hour charge, or you need to be able to fill up your battery as fast as a gas tank.
Everyone talking about this 'oh just fill up at night when you are sleeping'. People work odd hours or on call or driving 400+ miles a day at random times, living in huge apartment complexes where you can't just run a 300' cable out your 4th floor window to your car. If you're a home owner, 9-5, 20 minute commute person then go for it, but in their current state these are not for everyone.
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Gross. Elon is just being polite. He has no interest in operating in states that won't even sell his cars. You aren't even legally allowed to buy a Tesla in ohio. Why would Elon ever operate a factory there?
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Why can’t you buy in Ohio?
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Strong dealer lobby that passed a law prohibiting car manufacturers from selling cars directly, same as Texas.....
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"Freedom"
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Just read your posts on IamA. Do you realize how lucky you were? Your rationale:
>Why I bought a crazy amount of S&P-based options: Congress passed a bill slashing corporate tax rates in December. The last time corporate taxes were reduced so much was back in 1986. So I looked at how the market reacted at the beginning of 1987 and saw a huge spike in the S&P 500 in the first quarter.
So you dropped 100k on calls and then miraculously sold at the end of January before the biggest pullback we've seen in the SPX in 2 years?
I'm not hating, good for you, but your rationale was 100% off. When you sold, most of the tax benefit hadn't even been realized yet and Q1 was far from over for most of the S&P 500. Had you held to realize the full Q1 benefits you predicted, you would have lost everything.
Good job, but don't get cocky. You could have done the same with roulette.
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I was absolutely lucky. But my rationale was that the market would go up a lot in the short term and then drop at a point I couldn't predict, so I bought a ton of calls and sold them on the way up. Turned out decently well. I did think the dip was still a couple months off, but since there was no way to know I was happy taking profits in January.
Still had a chunk of options when February hit so I got whacked pretty hard on paper, but I can't really cry about it.
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How much did you get to keep after taxes?
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Don't think I'll know for sure until next year but I did have to write a huge check for Q1 estimated.
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At least Texas has no state income tax. My state isn’t bad but I’d still probably pay 49% or so on short term gains of that size; you’re probably looking at around 42%ish
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New top tax rate is 37%. Throw in the net investment income tax and it's 40.8%.
Since this was SPX, though, 60% gets treated as long term gains no matter how long it's held for (i.e. 20% tax rate + 3.8% NIIT).
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Why does SPX get treated that way
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IRS treats it like trading futures which get special tax treatment. It's why I go SPX over SPY.
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You should look into becoming a permanent resident of Puerto Rico. No capital gains tax through Act 22. Lot more room to sail a boat too.
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Go post this on r/personalfinance
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Hahahahahahahahaha...
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Actually I will send you amazon gift card balance if you do it and link ur post and ban screenshot
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So in reality he flipped that 25k into 56k + your gift card balance.
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Everyone wants to be rich and at the same time don’t want other people to be rich. “hE’S nOT rIcH ENoUgH”
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They don't want people to get rich off their tax paid money.
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The government doesn't cut Amazon a 2.5B cheque, Amazon will pay 2.5B less than full price on it's taxes over a period of time. The economic stimulus that business will bring to the region will make up for that many times over.
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How do you know? These big corporations aren't known for liking to pay their taxes. So that would mean it comes from the employees living in these cities, spending money etcetera.
But if you're a small business owner you're on your own, the government doesn't let you pay less taxes. And greedy Bezos does. There is nothing wrong with big corporations, but let there at least be a level playing field.
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> These big corporations aren't known for liking to pay their taxes.
Name someone who likes paying taxes. They pay the taxes they're legally required to pay, the same as you and me. If you want to suck Ocasio-Cortez's socialist cock feel free but don't pretend corporations can just *decide* not to pay taxes.
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No, you and me pay the taxes that we should. These corporations, like Starbucks, and Amazon included, do everything they can to pay less taxes. Like letting revenue pass through legal entities in countries like Ireland, Luxembourg or the Bahamas, and fuck around with laws about royalties and intellectual property.
And yes I would suck her cock.
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You do realize Amazon does pay taxes. They paid $957 million in 2017. And as others said below it would be dumb for corporations to try to pay more taxes.
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That’s it? There’s a dude with 900k in spy puts lmao
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Yeah it really ain’t shit but I’ll take up 700%
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How are you up 700 percent? When did you buy those puts?
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April 26th and they are for 1/17/2020
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What since that day SPY has been doing nothing but going up, and also that expiration date doesn't exist... you are either lying to make yourself feel better or autistic.
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tomorrow:
"$5200 to $0: A Guide On How To Stay Greedy Just The Right Amount Of Time" authored by ayylmao11023
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This. Kid got lucky. That's it.
His plays are a $260 SPY call (lol @ SPY increasing 8.5% in a week) and way OTM TEVA puts. One worked out but eventually he'll pay this back playing way OTM options.
Just a matter of time.
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I plan on selling $teva tomorrow and buying calls for nvda.
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What was your rationale for buying way OTM puts on TEVA?
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fun fact the wolf of wall street broke the record for the most use of profanity outside of a documentary literally about the word fuck.
reflective of real life tbh
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I still can't believe it was rated R. Show Girls was more tame than that movie and it got NC 17
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I remember the South Park guys talking about how they threw in a bunch of extra cursing and overall degeneracy in the first submission of the South Park movie so that they could "fix it" after getting an NC-17 rating and release the movie as they intended. Movie ratings, like any other system, can be manipulated.
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The exact same thing happened with [Wolf of Wall Street](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wolf-wall-street-avoids-nc-660653). Scorsese pulled the same trick he used for Casino. The versions released are the ones he wanted to begin with.
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What's so bad about NC 17 that Scorsese wanted to avoid it so badly?
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It's release suicide. Some festivals refuse to screen them. Most US theaters refuse to screen them; those that do take them won't allow anyone under 18 in, parents or no, killing the huge market of teens. Google Play refuses to carry them. Redbox refuses to rent them. Walmart won't carry them, save a few exceptions.
In reality, it's a stupid rating that only exists because of prudish pearl-clutchers screaming "think of the children." Mainly only certain indie or foreign films will accept the rating without recutting to R
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Ah I finally got it. I didn't know that NC 17 is even a higher level than R. So he overdid the inappropriate part, just for the purpose of cutting back and getting rated R instead of NC 17? That's genius. But now I want to see the deleted sex part.
Thanks a lot!
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Exactly! Marty adds a bunch of super graphic sex scenes he knows no theater would ever show, gives it to the MPAA and gets NC-17, then just resubmits the original cut and gets the R. They're just happy he got rid of the worst stuff.
If I had to guess the parts they cut were probably extended sequences with the hookers throughout the movie.
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> Marty adds a bunch of super graphic sex scenes he knows no theater would ever show, gives it to the MPAA and gets NC-17, then just resubmits the original cut and gets the R
Scorsese is the fucking man.
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Get on the spx train. You can lose your money faster.
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Jk my 2735 calls are going to zero ������
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what exp?
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Friday
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Cash out now before you're down 1000%
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If OP cashes out he's an ultra tard. At this point he better bag hold for a thousand years and beg that he breaks even. No point now in turning these positions into realized loses.
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They are realIzed losses. I have no stocks now.
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Holy fuck. I'd feel bad for you if you weren't an adult and clearly able to make your own decisions.
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College student but yeah
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What kind of college student dumps 20 thousands on robinhood
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I'm wondering if it was loan money.
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Have had many discussions on this topic with other analysts and we all agree that our behavior has become a lot more defensive towards women at the office. We all follow a set of unspoken rules to prevent any possibility of a female coworker "crying wolf" for an unforeseen reason.
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What kind of behaviors do you guys have to do now? Genuinely curious.
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I think, if anything, I have become much more self-conscious about my interactions with female co-workers out of fear that a 'hello' accompanied by a smile might be interpreted wrongly and could spell disaster for me.
My rules (please bare in mind that I am a junior at my company aka not in a position of 'power')
1) no 1 on 1 meetings in a room with a closed door (ie. I have purposefully re-scheduled meetings with female interns/co-analysts to large glass-walled conference rooms)
2) no compliments on attire (ie. no complements on a sharp looking blazer, or a neat pair of shoes)
3) stand on opposite sides while in an elevator and look at my phone (pretty sure I do this anyways)
4) never be left alone with a female client or co-worker during/at the end of happy hour events or business related dinners
5) avoid physical contact at all costs (ie. no hugs over celebrating accomplishments at happy hours or congratulating someone on their promotion)
6) avoid asking questions that aren't directly related to business at all costs (ie. might ask my male co-analysts what they did this weekend, but I would never do this nowadays with female co-analysts)
7) if there are additional seats open in a meeting, never choose a seat adjacent to a female co-worker
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I think 1, 4, and 5 are the right thing to do. The rest I see as a complete over-reaction IMO. But eh, do what you have to do.
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better safe than sorry. Would be stupid to lose your job over a hug where someone claims you copped a feel or something stupid.
A good rule of thumb is to avoid everyone... especially feminist types though. lmao, been avoiding them anyways.
Luckily there's not really any women around here to throw false claims around. The ones that are here I would wager would never do something stupid like that though, they're really chill.
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They will likely be devoured by BABA and papama, although China is obviously big enough for multiple online retail giants.
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And south east asia. Need to know that Chinese online retails have been expanding to its neighborhood.
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Has JD been expanding also?
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Yes partnership with Indonesian online retailer. Indonesia is probably the most populated country in SE Asia.
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Would you mind giving us a source ?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_countries_by_population
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I think this is different than FB and definitely an overreaction. The hit EPS dead on, and just "lost" some users: they banned fake accounts. They say it's to improve the platform long-term and I'm with them on this one.
Also, I feel like a lot of people are using Twitter again. And the company has $32B market cap, compared to FB 510B (yeah, I get that Twitter isn't gonna be as high as FB anytime soon, but I still think for what it is, it's lower valued than Facebook after the drop).
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This isn’t different from Facebook at all. Facebook didn’t miss any of its numbers by much either. The problem was forward growth.
Twitter can make any excuses it wants but it has no evidence to show that it’s growing even if it didn’t address the fake accounts. These companies, especially twitter, have the valuations they have because they’re expected to wildly grow. Couple that with the fact that it’s barely eeking out a profit and FB looks like a shining star in comparison.
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Well, if I look at my friends: nobody uses facebook anymore (not counting Whatsapp and some Instagram), but everyone starts using twitter. Idk, I'd rather be long TWTR than FB, but we'll see.
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Yea your problem is not counting Instgram and WhatsApp. Both have over a billion users and are growing considerably.
So while FB is maturing in terms of growth the other 2 still have plenty room to run.
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Whatsapp makes no money, Facebook is pretty much dead, and Instagram...yeah thats maybe where the money's at. Doesn't change my mind about TWTR though, I still think it's "less overvalued" than FB.
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Twitter doesn't make money either, relatively speaking, and they are going to have a lot of the same issues fb has with regards to user security and enforcement costs.
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Dude should have dumped that shit into RAD to double up on those gains. He would have made more in two weeks than he did in 70 years
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Is the deal really that set in stone?
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Stop standing on the sidelines son. Get in!!
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Ive been reading about it in here, what makes yall so convinced?
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i pray to rope
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Are you gonna be tapped by the trump admin to lead up the FDA?
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TSLA
but seriously what are the expectations as to how much they'll open down on monday? 120k cars or w/e it was can't be good news.
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When's the last time Tesla had good news anyways
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I think TSLA investors are taking this "There's no such thing as negative publicity" concept just a tad too far.
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Tesla has it made. Bad news from them is pretty much the norm at this point, so when there's good news, Elon is going to be swimming in everyone's option money
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He's such a fun CEO. Every time the bad news comes up he's essentially like "meh, these projects must be done for humanity I don't give a fuck" and investors are betting on him being right.
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