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&{n=FOOTSTEPS Okay .
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(..) &=SNIFF U:m .
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The +/.
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(..) The way that your testimony is &}n=FOOTSTEPS coming in (..) I don't know if I explained this to you o⌈n the phβŒ‰one .
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RICK
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⌊ Hm-m βŒ‹ .
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is &=in &=lengthened when a person &=ex is charged with multiple crimes &=ex &=lengthened (.) a:nd u:m (.) there (.) are other incidences where he: acted in the same way ?
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RICK
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⌈ Mhm βŒ‰ .
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⌊ &=in βŒ‹ When we have to prove in this case we have to prove specific intent .
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&}n=TALK (..) to: expose himself to a person (.) for sexual arousal .
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RICK
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&{l=P Mm &}l=P .
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U:m (.) when we have to prove something like specific intent &=in um or we have to prove identity .
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(..) Because he's disputing identity in a coup- +/.
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in (..) at least one of the cases .
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RICK
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⌈ Hm βŒ‰ .
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⌊ &=in βŒ‹ &=lengthened U:m &=ex &=lengthened then w:e are allowed to bring in (..) prior similar conduct .
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(..) U:m (.) where he acted in (.) a (.) an identical way or where the victims were in a similar situation .
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RICK
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⌈ Okay βŒ‰ .
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⌊ Things like βŒ‹ that &=in That's why we're able to have you come in and testify .
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RICK
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Okay .
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Okay &=in (.) U:m (..) the cases that we have (..) already (.) are um (.) one happened back in October of nineteen ninety (..) &=in .
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RICK
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⌈ Alright βŒ‰ .
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⌊ and it βŒ‹ happened on BART (.) and it's almost a carbon copy of ⌈2 your case βŒ‰2 .
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⌊2 Well I've βŒ‹2 made two (..) one a year from (..) almost a year from the (.) uh police report .
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I saw that in your report .
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REBE
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I haven't seen the other re⌈port βŒ‰ .
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RICK
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⌊ Yeah βŒ‹ I made that one through: &=in matter of fact it was just (.) over the phone and they never called me back or anything and a year later it happened again .
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⌈ Okay βŒ‰ .
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⌊ &=in aβŒ‹:nd then that's when they made the report and said they were gonna do something about it &=ex .
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(.) Okay .
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(.) S:o it hap⌈pened around +...
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⌊ So you can testify to βŒ‹ two of ⌈2 em βŒ‰2 .
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RICK
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Κ”uh βŒ‰ +...
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⌊2 YeahβŒ‹2: .
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That's why I had you come up becau⌈se: βŒ‰ .
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RICK
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⌊ Yeah βŒ‹ .
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(..) u:m (..) that's great .
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Yeah &=ex .
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&=in Um I mean not for you [% laugh] ⌈ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh βŒ‰ .
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⌊2 &=in βŒ‹2 ⌈3 but βŒ‰3 .
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⌊4 Mhm βŒ‹4 .
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⌊4 for us βŒ‹4 .
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&=in U:m (.) &=tsk (..) i- +/.
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in our first case (.) Amelia Gonzalez (.) um (..) that uh that happened back in ninety .
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And she was seated aΚ”- in the rear of the train .
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⌈ Yeah βŒ‰ .
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⌊ which βŒ‹ (.) you were .
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⌈2 Mhm βŒ‰2 .
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⌊2 &=in βŒ‹2 u:m (..) nobody else was around (..) and he: sort of walked up and ⌈ down the train βŒ‰ .
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⌊ Down the aisβŒ‹le (.) ⌈2 Mhm βŒ‰2 .
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⌊2 checked everyβŒ‹2thing ou⌈3t βŒ‰3 .
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⌊3 YβŒ‹3eah .
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(..) and then sat dow⌈4n βŒ‰4 .
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⌊4 MβŒ‹4hm .
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(.) put the newspaper on his lap .
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Y⌈eah βŒ‰ .
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⌊ masβŒ‹turbated and then lifted the paper ⌈2 up βŒ‰2 .
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⌊2 YeahβŒ‹2: .
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(.) for her to see .
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(..) &=tsk And she saw it (.) in the (.) the re⌈flection .
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⌊ n- n- +/.
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&{l=X Oh &}l=X the mirror βŒ‹ .
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&=in cause she was βŒ‰ looking ⌈2 out the window .
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⌊2 That's how I did it too βŒ‹2 .
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saying I don't want βŒ‰2 to s⌈3ee this βŒ‰3 .
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⌊3 Cause I didn't βŒ‹3 want to see him so I looked this way and you can see it .
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(..) Right .
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You know .
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Cause it turns into the ⌈ mirror βŒ‰ effect .
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⌊ Yeah βŒ‹ ⌈2 mhm βŒ‰2 .
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⌊2 &=in βŒ‹2 And he was just sort of staring at her (.) and lifting up ⌈3 the paper βŒ‰3 .
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⌊3 Yeah mhm βŒ‹3 .
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&=in &=lengthened U:m (..) so (.) ⌈ anyway βŒ‰ .
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RICK
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⌊ ExactβŒ‹ly .
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⌈2 Κ”uh &=ex βŒ‰2 .
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⌊2 it c- βŒ‹2 +/.
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it's a carbon copy .
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RICK
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Yeah .
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(.) a:nd (.) um in that case he's (.) &=in Κ”uhΚ”uh he sits through all the testimony and he just sort of shakes his head and makes these big gasps like &=in you know we're creating this whole thing ag⌈ainst βŒ‰ him .
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⌊ Hm βŒ‹ .
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&=in U:⌈2m βŒ‰2 .
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and then with ⌈3 June βŒ‰3 .
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(.) um the woman that just walked ou:t .
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Unhunh .
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u:m (..) &=in she was riding on BART (.) and (..) he came and sat near her (..) she moved (..) he moved to get closer to her (.) &=in she moved again (.) and he moved directly oppo⌈site her βŒ‰ .
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⌊ Mhm βŒ‹ .
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and then started masturbating .
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Yeah .
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(.) So .
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(..) &=in &{l=X well &}l=X see (.) what it is it seems like he wants &{l=X someone &}l=X more scary: (..) yΚ”Κ”- I don't kno:w cause &=in &=lengthened (..) he would walk up and down the aisles there was women on the other side too but they'd look like you know you wouldn't mess with em but if you're sitting there you know trying to mind your own business ⌈ or: βŒ‰ .
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⌊ Right βŒ‹ .
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(.) look like you can intimidate someone you ⌈ know βŒ‰ .
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⌊ Right βŒ‹ .
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I i- +...
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RICK
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⌊ that's βŒ‹ what it look like .
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(.) &=in I think that's I think he he finds somebody that's isolated .
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RICK
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⌈ Mhm βŒ‰ .
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⌊ &=in βŒ‹ &=lengthened a:nd he: (.) goes for a certain age group ⌈2 I think βŒ‰2 .
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RICK
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⌊2 Yeah βŒ‹2 .
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REBE
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&=in (.) U:m (.) a:nd you know like Κ”uhΚ”uh for some reason I think he likes students ⌈ or people βŒ‰ who look like stud⌈2ents: βŒ‰2 .
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RICK
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⌊ Unhunh βŒ‹ .
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