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<|im_start|>user
Jajajaja. Es por esto que cuando una va a España te preguntan si eres de las Canarias?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Fun fact: If you're from Puerto Rico chances are that part of you is of Canarian descent. [A lot of the Spaniards who came to the island were from the Canary islands.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isleños#Puerto_Rico) That explains our similar physical attributes and even the accent. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Fun fact: If you're from Puerto Rico chances are that part of you is of Canarian descent. [A lot of the Spaniards who came to the island were from the Canary islands.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isleños#Puerto_Rico) That explains our similar physical attributes and even the accent. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Indeed, Spain was looking to keep order in its colonies. Many Canary Islanders emigrated to Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, and Cuba. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
im from puerto rico and if you stay in tourist area you dont have to speak spanish. if you go to more local places then you will need some help. I know this because i work in a tourist area. you can go to el yunque or the radio-telescope in arecibo. or to any beach in the island. when you get here just ask around and the will recommend better places.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
cool. I'm not too worried about the language issue. I am so looking forward to this trip!!<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
If you visit the tourist area of Carolina "isla verde" do it by day. If you want to visit a specific spot make sure to do it by day, by night theres not a lot of people that will help. Restaurants by nights are not a bad idea but don't go after 10pm.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
thanks.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I'm PuertoRican. Here is the top ten list of restaurants most people will agree on:
1. Bottles - San Patricio
2. Jose Enrique - Plaza Mercado Santurce
3. Laurel - Muse de Arte de PR
4. Santaella - Plaza Mercado Santurce
5. Il Perugino - Hato Rey
6. El Pescador
7. Pikayo - Hotel Conrad
8. LIma - Miramar
9. Ali Baba - Condado
10. Mermelade - Old San Juan
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<|im_start|>assistant
Thanks!<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
If by any reason you decide to go somewhere else instead of old San Juan, do things by day if possible. Old San Juan is tourist friendly by day and night, other places are tourist friendly by day. By night theres just a bunch of want to be thugs that will annoy you, they usually come out after 10:30pm around the area of Isla Verde. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Thanks for the heads-up. I'm not sure how far I will get from the Hilton - as I suspect that it will be mostly on foot. (Though, given the crazy pace of my schedule while I'm there, at least I'm pretty sure that I won't be out that late unless accompanied by a mob of people.)<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
if you're at the Caribe Hilton you're in walking distance of Old San Juan. There are tons of restaurants/bars that you can go to there... Some affordable, some not. Things/places I'd recommend:
* Do not eat at the hotel unless your company is paying for it. Shit is so expensive.
* You'll probably hear this a lot, but unless you're looking for drugs, stay out of La Perla. If you're looking for drugs, though, definitely go to La Perla.
* Buy a "tripleta" out of some little street car, it'll be the best $5 or so you ever spend
* Get up early one day and go to La Bonbonera for breakfast. Get a mallorca, cafe con leche, and a fresh squeezed orange juice. Take home some quesitos and other assorted pastries.
* Go to dinner at la Mallorquina. It used to belong to my family when they first got to Puerto Rico, and it's still delicious.
* Go fly a kite at El Morro and get a snow cone
* Buy ice cream from one of the guys in the street with the little carts, they also are by the beach sometimes. My favorite is Parcha (passion fruit)
* There are tons of restaurants, many expensive, but very good. Old San Juan is super walkable and most places have the menu posted outside so you can see if it's in your price range before you go in.
* Leave the Old San Juan area and explore the island if you get the opportunity!!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Awesome, thank you for all the suggestions! I'm definitely hoping to have to eat as little hotel food as possible, because even though I'll eventually get a per-diem, I'll still have to pay out of pocket and get reimbursed.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Awesome, thank you for all the suggestions! I'm definitely hoping to have to eat as little hotel food as possible, because even though I'll eventually get a per-diem, I'll still have to pay out of pocket and get reimbursed.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
If you find you have time for some exploration, let me know. I have plenty of (homesick) suggestions.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
if you're at the Caribe Hilton you're in walking distance of Old San Juan. There are tons of restaurants/bars that you can go to there... Some affordable, some not. Things/places I'd recommend:
* Do not eat at the hotel unless your company is paying for it. Shit is so expensive.
* You'll probably hear this a lot, but unless you're looking for drugs, stay out of La Perla. If you're looking for drugs, though, definitely go to La Perla.
* Buy a "tripleta" out of some little street car, it'll be the best $5 or so you ever spend
* Get up early one day and go to La Bonbonera for breakfast. Get a mallorca, cafe con leche, and a fresh squeezed orange juice. Take home some quesitos and other assorted pastries.
* Go to dinner at la Mallorquina. It used to belong to my family when they first got to Puerto Rico, and it's still delicious.
* Go fly a kite at El Morro and get a snow cone
* Buy ice cream from one of the guys in the street with the little carts, they also are by the beach sometimes. My favorite is Parcha (passion fruit)
* There are tons of restaurants, many expensive, but very good. Old San Juan is super walkable and most places have the menu posted outside so you can see if it's in your price range before you go in.
* Leave the Old San Juan area and explore the island if you get the opportunity!!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Good pointers. But avoid La Perla even if you're looking for drugs. Right now the police has taken the place and is a big no no for everyone including locals.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Good pointers. But avoid La Perla even if you're looking for drugs. Right now the police has taken the place and is a big no no for everyone including locals.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
really? it's about time. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
If by any reason you decide to go somewhere else instead of old San Juan, do things by day if possible. Old San Juan is tourist friendly by day and night, other places are tourist friendly by day. By night theres just a bunch of want to be thugs that will annoy you, they usually come out after 10:30pm around the area of Isla Verde. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Be careful of want to be thugs, they can be very dangerous. My recommendation would be not to go looking for bars in Avenida Isla Verde at all. It's a very boring and lame place compare to other options in San Juan. People who go there are usually not very interesting. If you want to stay in the area, stay inside the hotels and the beach. For bars at night you're better of going to condado or old san juan. And if you're a little adventurous and don't mind a bit of a third world country taste, Rio Piedras is very fun and full of pretty PuertoRican girls on tuesdays and thursdays. It is also very cheap compare to condado and old san juan.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Be careful of want to be thugs, they can be very dangerous. My recommendation would be not to go looking for bars in Avenida Isla Verde at all. It's a very boring and lame place compare to other options in San Juan. People who go there are usually not very interesting. If you want to stay in the area, stay inside the hotels and the beach. For bars at night you're better of going to condado or old san juan. And if you're a little adventurous and don't mind a bit of a third world country taste, Rio Piedras is very fun and full of pretty PuertoRican girls on tuesdays and thursdays. It is also very cheap compare to condado and old san juan.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Not just that, its full of college students and 70% of them are tourist friendly. I recommend El refugio or El Boricua, beautiful people go there. But for cheaper beers go to Vidy.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Honestly, the best thing you could possibly do is to stick to the tourist areas, since there is, sadly, a lot of wannabe gangsters here that would hurt/kill you just to seem macho. In old San Juan there is this place called La Perla. Dont go near it. Unless you are looking for drugs, and even then you probably shouldn't go because the police is finally doing something about it. Its very nice to just walk around old San Juan. If you get a chance, get a kite to fly near el Morro. Local ice cream here is awesome. You can buy some from the local sellers. I love parcha (passion fruit), with coconut. Also, try to go to El Yunque. Its very beautiful and you can either just walk around or go to get into the different cascadas (water falls). Careful with the beach you go to because not all are safe and/or clean. Also, try to go to one of the restaurants that offer local food. You will love it ^_^. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Thanks!! I guess the best thing to do is stick with the group of people I will be there with and not wander off on my own then.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Thanks!! I guess the best thing to do is stick with the group of people I will be there with and not wander off on my own then.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Oooh, and if you like it here when you come over, try to come here during christmas season (usually the parties and such start after thanksgiving). The food here at that time is THE BEST. and if you like rum, i suggest going to the Bacardi factory. They give tours and they sell the different drinks that they have there too. I went one time it was cool. Even though i couldnt try anything because im underage :/ . <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Oooh, and if you like it here when you come over, try to come here during christmas season (usually the parties and such start after thanksgiving). The food here at that time is THE BEST. and if you like rum, i suggest going to the Bacardi factory. They give tours and they sell the different drinks that they have there too. I went one time it was cool. Even though i couldnt try anything because im underage :/ . <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
argh. the wedding party is around early July. We have some stuff lined up to do, but I'll look into the Bacardi factory.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I'm sure a majority of us do, but not all us smokers just throw our butts on the ground. I play disc golf and always keep them with me till I reach a trash can. I plan on keeping the beaches clean when I visit PR as well.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
it's not just that, it sucks being on a crowded beach, getting a wicked spot, and having a smoker station him or herself downwind. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
it's not just that, it sucks being on a crowded beach, getting a wicked spot, and having a smoker station him or herself downwind. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I can't really say I understand, but I do try and be mindful of that when I play disc golf. If I was on a beach that crowded I would walk away far enough so it wouldn't bother anyone. trust me, I am not "that guy" .<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I can't really say I understand, but I do try and be mindful of that when I play disc golf. If I was on a beach that crowded I would walk away far enough so it wouldn't bother anyone. trust me, I am not "that guy" .<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
well i wish there were more "not that guys" !<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Kasalta! were obama went to eat when he went to puerto rico.They have really good food there, and dont get me started with the wine.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
We ended up there for dinner, this evening, and my coworkers were beyond excited. We ordered a bunch of different tapas, shared a table with a couple celebrating an anniversary or some other milestone event, and took home pastries.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Well, first of all, if you'll be there for a few more days I would advice renting a car, Ask the hotel about Charlie Car rental, they are probably the best local and best priced rental cars, $20.00 a day, sometimes less. Around the Caribe Hilton, there isn't much in walking distance. Except probably in Puerta de Tierra, just west from the Hotel before Old San Juan, but you'd need a local resident to tell you what's around. You can walk over to Ashford Ave. and but its very touristy and pricey. If you get a car, go to Bebo's BBQ in Carolina, they are cheap, good and open very late. It's outside the tourist area, very local, so you may or may not find someone who speaks English, but you just point at what you want and they'll give it to you. Any local in the area will know of it. Here's their [Yelp page](http://www.yelp.com/biz/bebos-bbq-carolina).
EDIT: for clarity
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<|im_start|>assistant
if you're feeling daring, Sullivan BBQ in Santurce is AMAZING, but also much sketchier than Bebo's<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
1. When I was living in PR, a friend of mine came out in a group and they did the rental thing, came out way cheaper than a hotel of similar quality (it was a really cool apartment in Isla Verde).
2. I would advise renting a car. There are buses the locals use, that I find are sometimes more reliable than the city buses, but you'd have to be pretty savvy to figure them out, and it'd probably be tough to get a group on them.
PLACES (you can probably google most of these, let me know if you can't):
* Surfing: Rincon, Aguadilla, Isabella
* Snorkeling: Anywhere! Try and get to "Caja de Muertos" (an island off the south coast), "Culebra" (an island of the east coast), I am a big fan of the beaches in the south and west because there are fewer tourists (I guess recommending them defeats my purposes, but I personally think the San Juan beaches suck), and also Mar Chiquita. There are also some other islands off the east coast that have amazing beaches, but I can't think of the name now.
* Sightseeing/Historical: Taking a drive through the mountains was always breath-taking for me, Old San Juan (of course), San German is a very historic city as well and often overlooked. El Yunque.
* Bars / nightclubs: No idea, I'm boring.
* Live music: There are Jazz nights in COndado or Ocean Park (can't remember which) , I believe it's Sundays and or Weds.
* Misc: If you want to scope out local produce and general cool stuff, go to Plaza del Mercado in Santurce or Rio Piedras
* Restaurants: La Bonbonera and La Mallorquina in Old San Juan, get to Gurabo and go to one of the roasted pig restaurants (the fullest one is worth the wait) and try EVERYTHING. Pi~ones.
Now that I think about it, I will be there in August as well, so maybe I'll run into you.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
yeah that didn't format how i wanted it to. n00b here. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
1. When I was living in PR, a friend of mine came out in a group and they did the rental thing, came out way cheaper than a hotel of similar quality (it was a really cool apartment in Isla Verde).
2. I would advise renting a car. There are buses the locals use, that I find are sometimes more reliable than the city buses, but you'd have to be pretty savvy to figure them out, and it'd probably be tough to get a group on them.
PLACES (you can probably google most of these, let me know if you can't):
* Surfing: Rincon, Aguadilla, Isabella
* Snorkeling: Anywhere! Try and get to "Caja de Muertos" (an island off the south coast), "Culebra" (an island of the east coast), I am a big fan of the beaches in the south and west because there are fewer tourists (I guess recommending them defeats my purposes, but I personally think the San Juan beaches suck), and also Mar Chiquita. There are also some other islands off the east coast that have amazing beaches, but I can't think of the name now.
* Sightseeing/Historical: Taking a drive through the mountains was always breath-taking for me, Old San Juan (of course), San German is a very historic city as well and often overlooked. El Yunque.
* Bars / nightclubs: No idea, I'm boring.
* Live music: There are Jazz nights in COndado or Ocean Park (can't remember which) , I believe it's Sundays and or Weds.
* Misc: If you want to scope out local produce and general cool stuff, go to Plaza del Mercado in Santurce or Rio Piedras
* Restaurants: La Bonbonera and La Mallorquina in Old San Juan, get to Gurabo and go to one of the roasted pig restaurants (the fullest one is worth the wait) and try EVERYTHING. Pi~ones.
Now that I think about it, I will be there in August as well, so maybe I'll run into you.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Also see the post about ziplining! Going to toro verde adventure park would be a super fun outing.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
1. When I was living in PR, a friend of mine came out in a group and they did the rental thing, came out way cheaper than a hotel of similar quality (it was a really cool apartment in Isla Verde).
2. I would advise renting a car. There are buses the locals use, that I find are sometimes more reliable than the city buses, but you'd have to be pretty savvy to figure them out, and it'd probably be tough to get a group on them.
PLACES (you can probably google most of these, let me know if you can't):
* Surfing: Rincon, Aguadilla, Isabella
* Snorkeling: Anywhere! Try and get to "Caja de Muertos" (an island off the south coast), "Culebra" (an island of the east coast), I am a big fan of the beaches in the south and west because there are fewer tourists (I guess recommending them defeats my purposes, but I personally think the San Juan beaches suck), and also Mar Chiquita. There are also some other islands off the east coast that have amazing beaches, but I can't think of the name now.
* Sightseeing/Historical: Taking a drive through the mountains was always breath-taking for me, Old San Juan (of course), San German is a very historic city as well and often overlooked. El Yunque.
* Bars / nightclubs: No idea, I'm boring.
* Live music: There are Jazz nights in COndado or Ocean Park (can't remember which) , I believe it's Sundays and or Weds.
* Misc: If you want to scope out local produce and general cool stuff, go to Plaza del Mercado in Santurce or Rio Piedras
* Restaurants: La Bonbonera and La Mallorquina in Old San Juan, get to Gurabo and go to one of the roasted pig restaurants (the fullest one is worth the wait) and try EVERYTHING. Pi~ones.
Now that I think about it, I will be there in August as well, so maybe I'll run into you.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
one more thing.. if you want to be far away from the world, and explore some rivers and trails up in the mountains, I went here once and LOVED it. Actually I think I went 2-3 times. http://www.casacubuy.com/<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
1. When I was living in PR, a friend of mine came out in a group and they did the rental thing, came out way cheaper than a hotel of similar quality (it was a really cool apartment in Isla Verde).
2. I would advise renting a car. There are buses the locals use, that I find are sometimes more reliable than the city buses, but you'd have to be pretty savvy to figure them out, and it'd probably be tough to get a group on them.
PLACES (you can probably google most of these, let me know if you can't):
* Surfing: Rincon, Aguadilla, Isabella
* Snorkeling: Anywhere! Try and get to "Caja de Muertos" (an island off the south coast), "Culebra" (an island of the east coast), I am a big fan of the beaches in the south and west because there are fewer tourists (I guess recommending them defeats my purposes, but I personally think the San Juan beaches suck), and also Mar Chiquita. There are also some other islands off the east coast that have amazing beaches, but I can't think of the name now.
* Sightseeing/Historical: Taking a drive through the mountains was always breath-taking for me, Old San Juan (of course), San German is a very historic city as well and often overlooked. El Yunque.
* Bars / nightclubs: No idea, I'm boring.
* Live music: There are Jazz nights in COndado or Ocean Park (can't remember which) , I believe it's Sundays and or Weds.
* Misc: If you want to scope out local produce and general cool stuff, go to Plaza del Mercado in Santurce or Rio Piedras
* Restaurants: La Bonbonera and La Mallorquina in Old San Juan, get to Gurabo and go to one of the roasted pig restaurants (the fullest one is worth the wait) and try EVERYTHING. Pi~ones.
Now that I think about it, I will be there in August as well, so maybe I'll run into you.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Thanks for all of your great suggestions! My friends and I can now get the ball rolling!!<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
If you open up your own business no one can tell you what to speak. Maybe a Geek Squad type deal.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I do a Geek Squad type deal in Puerto Rico. It is a customer facing business that requires great communication skills. 75% of my job is troubleshooting users, not computers. No one can tell you what to speak but if you want to get any clients you need to speak their language. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
>Is it possible for me to get work and support myself there only knowing English?
It will be difficult, but people will open up to you if you make an effort to learn Spanish. A little broken Spanish will take you a long way. It's time to hit the books!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
This. Take the chance and get over there, but learn Spanish!<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Ok I will be sincere and break it down to you.
Don't go there!!
I am from Puerto Rico moved to the states 2 1/2 years ago.
Why?
Job market.
House Market. (rent/buy)
crime
extremely corrupt government
services are F*****G expensive. (water, electricity, phone, Gas, etc)
Schools system sucks (if you have kids)
Hurricanes
Wages (Low, low)
Now the Good stuff.
Tropical Island (weather)
People are great.
Women are beautiful.
Education is cheap (college)
Business are cheap to open. (Had a PC repair shop for 7 years)
Spanish and English are spoken. (English is elementary school level)
Weigh them out and Luck with whatever you decide to do.
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<|im_start|>assistant
She is actually planning on moving to the states next summer. I'd just like to be with her as she finishes school. But thanks for the input. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
In San Juan, or anywhere really, try the mofungo. But stay away from raicias restaurant in sa. Juan. We saw it on man vs food, we're too tired from look for a better place, and it wasn't worth it. $8 for a mojito!!! To rent a car, we used "Charlie's cars", ( I should note we are here as I write this). Charlie's cars was super cheap, $24 a day all included for a compact. ( rent for 7 days for a discount, also, check with your insurance for coverage in puerto Rico. Driving is a bitch here. CRAZY drivers who will stop for any and all reasons, even on the express toll road. We rented the toll transponder for $10 and it was worth it.
In san Juan, there are very few, super small beaches, and you shouldn't leave anything of value anywhere. See the sights and head to Rincon. Stop in Arecibo on the way.
In San Juan drink at Douglas pub, tres cuernos<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Edit: accidentally hit send. Oops
Tres cuernos and acgua. Super cheap. Non touristy. For breakfast I highly recommend cafe Mallorca. Great and cheap for lunch, by the pier, hit punte de vista, lunch specials, cheap booze and good food.
The Bacardi tour is cheap (.50 boat ride each way) and you can pick up Bacardi for cheap afterwards. Of you want to try to make your own mojitos, ask for jerba buena, not mente. But good luck, as there is none available. Locals grow their own.
And since your a redditor, your going to love the island. It's FULL of cats! Gatos EVERYWHERE.
As for Spanish, it almost seems insulting to use it, they prefer to use English for tourists And Spanish for locals. If you ask someone something, and they walk away, they aren't being rude. They are trying to help you. They are trying to figure out what you asked. And always, ALWAYS ask bar staff and servers where to eat and drink. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
In San Juan, or anywhere really, try the mofungo. But stay away from raicias restaurant in sa. Juan. We saw it on man vs food, we're too tired from look for a better place, and it wasn't worth it. $8 for a mojito!!! To rent a car, we used "Charlie's cars", ( I should note we are here as I write this). Charlie's cars was super cheap, $24 a day all included for a compact. ( rent for 7 days for a discount, also, check with your insurance for coverage in puerto Rico. Driving is a bitch here. CRAZY drivers who will stop for any and all reasons, even on the express toll road. We rented the toll transponder for $10 and it was worth it.
In san Juan, there are very few, super small beaches, and you shouldn't leave anything of value anywhere. See the sights and head to Rincon. Stop in Arecibo on the way.
In San Juan drink at Douglas pub, tres cuernos<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Thanks for the recommendations!<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Yo soy bilingüe, fuck this shit and Fortuño too. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
So much Fortuño hate :)
In any case, I would argue that - at least among young people - we're already there.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Update; we saw most of puerto Rico. Drove from Rincon to Cabo rojo, didn't see much other than a cool beach or two, drove to ponce, was disappointed there was no don q rum tour, saw a cool beach, drove up the highway to caguas, which is just a. Huge suburb, got to fajardo early, thinking it may be nice place to stop, which it's not. You have two options, you can leave your rental car and pay $5 day in the protected lots( highly recommended) and take the ferry across at $2 a person. ( locals have first right on the ferry access) or you can contact ( DIRECTLY) the puddle jumpers and fly to vieques. ( highly recommended at $34 each person each way, online it was $200) vieques was beautiful! We stayed at the seagate hotel by the fort in a nice clean room, with great service and rented one of the owners cars for $40( best deal on the island). You mus love animals though or your gonna have a bad time. Also, pack mosquito repellant for the whole island. Best beach is sun beach and the one adjoining it in Esperanza, red beach and the beach next to the "w" hotel. Others were not swim able during our stay, or are great if you just a deserted beach to look at. Bio bay tours run $30. I don't recommend taking publicos ( group taxis) S for big groups it'll run you more than renting a car. And you may have twenty stops before you get to where you want. In bars there( specifically al's azul bar in isbella II, lookout for the gringo named "JUG", who duped some crazy white girl we met into an expensive ride across the island. Theres a place to eat right off the ferry called "el yate", clean, cheap and delicious. Pack a cooler from the mainland with booze and snacks as most beaches have expensive tourist food or nothing at all. Luquillo beach is amazing on the mainland! Hole this helps!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
:hope. Damn autocorrect. As for history, make sure you get the magazine " que pasa". It'll help find what places you decide to visit, hotels etc . Grab the tourist magazines, once we unpack I'll post the things we wish we had known about as we found them too late in the local magazines. Theres a tour guide for San Juan who'll tell you the history of san Juan and puerto Rico, he comes highly recommended. For being a tourist based economy, it's hard to find sights and find history pieces when in country. In vieques, there's a self guided tour of the kianai lagoon, which was closed. But we did it anyway, and a beautiful beach at the end. There are old sugar mill ruins, which are very hard to find. Basically in vieques, you look for the radar installation and drive past wwII bunkers in a crazy roundabout road. On the last curve to the radar installation is a bad road which you will miss. There will be a turnout and if your lucky, a badly written sign an some centuries old housing. Take the old road, preferably on foot. Crazy enough, we had a hard time finding dancing of any kind on the island. And if you want a beach with a few people, snorkeling and good water for messing around in, the beach next to the "w" is your best bet. Just don't leave stuff in your car or on the beach that you want to get stolen. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Update; we saw most of puerto Rico. Drove from Rincon to Cabo rojo, didn't see much other than a cool beach or two, drove to ponce, was disappointed there was no don q rum tour, saw a cool beach, drove up the highway to caguas, which is just a. Huge suburb, got to fajardo early, thinking it may be nice place to stop, which it's not. You have two options, you can leave your rental car and pay $5 day in the protected lots( highly recommended) and take the ferry across at $2 a person. ( locals have first right on the ferry access) or you can contact ( DIRECTLY) the puddle jumpers and fly to vieques. ( highly recommended at $34 each person each way, online it was $200) vieques was beautiful! We stayed at the seagate hotel by the fort in a nice clean room, with great service and rented one of the owners cars for $40( best deal on the island). You mus love animals though or your gonna have a bad time. Also, pack mosquito repellant for the whole island. Best beach is sun beach and the one adjoining it in Esperanza, red beach and the beach next to the "w" hotel. Others were not swim able during our stay, or are great if you just a deserted beach to look at. Bio bay tours run $30. I don't recommend taking publicos ( group taxis) S for big groups it'll run you more than renting a car. And you may have twenty stops before you get to where you want. In bars there( specifically al's azul bar in isbella II, lookout for the gringo named "JUG", who duped some crazy white girl we met into an expensive ride across the island. Theres a place to eat right off the ferry called "el yate", clean, cheap and delicious. Pack a cooler from the mainland with booze and snacks as most beaches have expensive tourist food or nothing at all. Luquillo beach is amazing on the mainland! Hole this helps!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Yes, it does help.
Thank you!<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Here are some past results:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Puerto_Rico#Plebiscites
There will be another referendum later this year.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Fair enough and I've seen similar results myself. I guess I should have been more clear. I was more interested in the opinion of redditors just to see what people here thought.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Fair enough and I've seen similar results myself. I guess I should have been more clear. I was more interested in the opinion of redditors just to see what people here thought.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I apologize for not giving you the answer that you were looking for. I just wanted to give some official data to anchor the discussion in objectivity.
Your thread didn't get any answers. One of the reasons for this is that you posted on [/r/puertorico](/r/puertorico) instead of on [/r/puerto_rico](/r/puerto_rico). Not even online we can reach consensus. The other sub has almost 3 times as many subscribers.
Another reason is that during the republican primaries there were many discussions about the political status of Puerto Rico and many of us got into some emotionally taxing arguments. The discussions about the status of the island tend to devolve very quickly into straw man arguments and toxic accusations. A quick web search will show you that most comments on this subject are little more than vitriol. Just today I was told by another redditor that Puerto Ricans who want statehood don't want equality, just more free money. It is also pretty common to get negative comments regarding patriotism and loyalty, and our mothers tend to get more insults in these discussions than in games of Call of Duty.
So, if you have any questions I'll be more than willing to answer them. But you have to keep in mind that my comments represent only my own personal opinions. For now I'll tell you that I belong to the 46% of Puerto Ricans who want statehood for the island.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I am a Puerto Rican who recently left Puerto Rico. I worked in Bayamon and lived nearby, and I don't really remember anyone being that into this team. I remember seeing the logo, but people were more into basketball and volleyball in the area... I'd think that since the team is the only one in the MLS it'd be safe to assume they represent the entire island. Plus I can't think of a direct symbol of Bayamon.
A coqui is always the safe way to go. Also try looking up Taino symbols. I see the sun used a lot and they have an alternate representation of the coqui you might be able to use. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Taino symbols was not something I had thought to look at. Thank you for your response. Even hearing what people do and don't know about the team is telling, and it definitely helps me.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I live in Puerto Rico and cant understand spanish. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Where are you employed if I may ask?<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Where are you employed if I may ask?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Self employed fisherman. Mostly "picuas" wich is a tipe of barracuda. They give a heck of a fight. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Good pointers. But avoid La Perla even if you're looking for drugs. Right now the police has taken the place and is a big no no for everyone including locals.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
So where would you suggest asking for drugs? Nothing hard just some herb? <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
That's a very good question, but the answer will not satisfy you much. Is it possible? Yes it is. But you'll be at a great disadvantage, especially trying to find a job. In San Juan for instance you'd stand your best chance, though you'll find people across the island that speak English, but most will not, especially outside of San Juan. Hotels and restaurant usually like to have English speakers on staff but it really limits your employment opportunities to only a few places. There are still some military bases on the island, and you could look for employment there, but again it's pretty limiting. And keep in mind that Puerto Rico is going through the worst recession in its history with massive government layoffs, so don't expect to simply walk in anywhere to find a job.
Having said all that... fuck it man. Save as much money as you can and just go. the worst that could happen is that you run out of money and are forced to go back to your life. At the very least you'd have an interesting story to tell about the time when you lived in Puerto Rico and everyone called you "El Gringo". You might just figure out how to make it work against all odds. who knows.
Good Luck.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I agree. It can be tough but I'm sure once you are down here you will find a way to survive. I know I have.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
This. Take the chance and get over there, but learn Spanish!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Also this. Clasificadosonline.com under jobs. Few people here knows what craigslist. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Also this. Clasificadosonline.com under jobs. Few people here knows what craigslist. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
True. Craigslist is full of mostly scams in PR. I believe I found my job on Monster, though.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
please don't listen to them.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
?
I will of course not use everything that has been said. But it is good to start with a wide variety of references to and pull out the best ideas.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Ponce es to lejos!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Eso mismo dice la gente de Ponce de San Juan, Fajardo, Aguadilla, etc.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Eso mismo dice la gente de Ponce de San Juan, Fajardo, Aguadilla, etc.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Sí... era mi intento fallido de humor jeje<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Me lo perdi :(<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
yo tambien. pero quizas mejor. quizas mis expectativas de como un redditor debe ser son demasiado altas.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
yo tambien. pero quizas mejor. quizas mis expectativas de como un redditor debe ser son demasiado altas.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Nadie espera nada de ti, ni que nos deberias algo. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Nadie espera nada de ti, ni que nos deberias algo. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
jaja eso es bonito. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
jaja eso es bonito. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Que bello es todo :P de que pueblo eres? y a que te referias con lo de las expectativas?<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Que bello es todo :P de que pueblo eres? y a que te referias con lo de las expectativas?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
jajaja ;) ! pues me referia a que en mi mente reddit es este sitio magico, lleno de gente witty con un sentido del humor muy parecido al mio. asi que tendria unos expectativas bien altas de como deberia ser la gente que conociera, gente que me haria reir mucho y fueran sarcasticas y criticas al status quo. si no encuentro eso lo mas probable que me sintiera defraudada. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
jajaja ;) ! pues me referia a que en mi mente reddit es este sitio magico, lleno de gente witty con un sentido del humor muy parecido al mio. asi que tendria unos expectativas bien altas de como deberia ser la gente que conociera, gente que me haria reir mucho y fueran sarcasticas y criticas al status quo. si no encuentro eso lo mas probable que me sintiera defraudada. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....ooo... Ya entendi xD Si, se a lo que te refieres, la gente de PR no saben apreciar el sarcasmo o chistes de pene... siempre tengo que recurrir a reddit para descargar mi obscuro sentido del humor, feels good man. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....ooo... Ya entendi xD Si, se a lo que te refieres, la gente de PR no saben apreciar el sarcasmo o chistes de pene... siempre tengo que recurrir a reddit para descargar mi obscuro sentido del humor, feels good man. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Exactamente! <3<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....ooo... Ya entendi xD Si, se a lo que te refieres, la gente de PR no saben apreciar el sarcasmo o chistes de pene... siempre tengo que recurrir a reddit para descargar mi obscuro sentido del humor, feels good man. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Vine por los chistes de pene.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Vine por los chistes de pene.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Especialmente los chistes de pene... ji-ji-ji
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<|im_start|>user
I love this idea. *Consuming* invasive species is going to become a major solution this decade.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally I can hunt this garden and papaya eater!! <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Is this the building they have been renovating at top of San Juan across from monument with all the seals?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I really do not know which building are you referring to. But this is inside the Capitol at San Juan.
It looks like this for the outside:
http://i.imgur.com/j6IzC.jpg<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Where in PR are you going to go? What are you asking? Job stuff? There are plenty of firms there that you can get by with English only - especially in San Juan...<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Job stuff partly, but any general information too. Do you have any names of specific places in San Juan?<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I'm so homesick right now!!!!!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Me Too!!! :-(<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Job stuff partly, but any general information too. Do you have any names of specific places in San Juan?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Well, like any other place on the planet, there are recruiters and other job placement firms. What kind of work do you do?
Here is an exec recruiting firm there...
http://www.careersincpr.com<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
My friend came here with me and she had to leave cause she couldn't find a job. She didn't speak any spanish and you have to be able to speak at least a little to communicate with co-workers. Outside of tourist areas it's rare to find someone that speaks english unless it's a manager at a store.
Even I had trouble finding work and I'm fully bilingual. I tried for two months solid and then all of a sudden two places wanted me so it all worked out for me. Unfortunately not for my friend. Good luck.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Well that's not what I was hoping to hear. But thank you for the input. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Well that's not what I was hoping to hear. But thank you for the input. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Sorry, I'm not going to try and sell you a dream but just be mentally prepared for that. It might work out different for you. Either way she enjoyed coming here and will never wonder "what if..." about the situation.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
really nice hostels in san juan and old san juan<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
That's cool, but I am probably too old and we are a family. Thanks for the knowing though!<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
You can save a lot of money by staying away from the nicer restaurants, that's where you'll get the worst value. Stick to the small mom&pop cafes. Look for carts selling tripletas - big ass sandwiches for a couple of bucks, these can last you a whole day. Also look for a panaderia (bread bakeries), buy some pan sobao and you can munch all day on it.
If you're renting a car look for Charlie's rental, probably the cheapest on the island sometimes less than $20 a day.
If Gurabo is your main destination, look to the southeast of the island to get better prices on everything. The closer you get to San Juan or Ponce the more expensive things (hotels & restaurants) will be.
The food bill creeps on you in PR, so watch it. Also the more you spend on the smaller cafes the better it is for the economy of the island, if you want to be socially responsible.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
This is most excellent advice and appreciated! Charlie's and the local small cafes will be our destination! I am currently looking in Farajado.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Some Enterprise locations have a $10/day weekend special, though you only get 100 miles free per day.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Nice, thanks!<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Sounds reasonable, make reservations for the biobay ASAP though, it fills up very quickly.
Old San Juan is very nice to walk around, small shops and places to eat, you can find places fairly cheap. If you want a bit of history you can buy a pass for 2 forts in OSJ for about $5.
As for the east part of the island, you can visit Luquillo, where there is a nice beach and kiosks to eat (quite cheaply, too).
In OSJ do NOT go to a place called La Perla. The houses may be pretty colors but it's a major place to get drugs and do not take nicely to tourists.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Those are good things to know, very helpful! Thanks so much.
When it comes to reservations for the biobay is 30$ a person canoe ride the best price I will find? I've been delaying those reservations hoping for a cheaper option. I know there are some cheaper larger boats but I'd like to be as close to the water as possible. Also, big thanks for the La Perla warning, I like pretty colors...homicide not so much.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Def check out airbnb but if you want the coolest hotel in the world stay here: http://www.thegalleryinn.com/ it's in old san juan and only about $100 a night. If you going to be doing the biobay that mean you'll be in fajardo. Take the ferry to culebra for a day or a couple days and visit flamenco beach. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Good suggestions. I had read the biobay off Vieques was the brightest so we were trying to get there. Do you know if there is much of a difference between Fajardo's and Vieques' bays?<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
My position on the two issues:
Reducing the legislature is supposed to "streamline" government and make it more efficient. I don't see how that would be accomplished without reducing democracy. Reducing the number of seats in the legislature would only concentrate more power into fewer hands. The basic political units in Puerto Rico are the municipalities and these do not get their own representation but are instead lumped together to form voting districts, poorer municipalities with smaller populations are generally less represented as it is, any reduction in the number of seats will only exacerbate the problem. Rather than combating corruption this measure would only serve to concentrate it and make it more difficult to root it out. A few years ago there was a separate proposal calling for the unification of the bicameral legislature into a single legislative body. That measure I did support as it actually held the promise of streamlining government and equalizing the power structure by placing the legislators in an equal footing. This measure was however opposed by the same people who support the now failed measure, which I believe says something about how they hoped to benefit from this.
On the second measure I also supported the 'No' vote because it was driven by a campaign inciting fear of crime. Crime, especially homicide, is a serious problem, but this measure is a blanket removal of the right to bail. The problem is that in Puerto Rico, while the police do not catch every criminal, they really do not have a problem putting people in jail. Prosecutions are almost guarantee when someone is charged. As faulty as the justice system, it is potentially more faulty against the poor and innocent rather than against the criminal. Abuse of police powers and corruption in the police departments are well documented in the island. To remove from the constitution the right to bail, threatens the few tools available for some to defend themselves. Not only is this a threat to the civil rights of all Puerto Ricans, but it would immediately deliver a bonanza of money to the prison industry which I'm sure lobbied for this to pass just as I'm sure that they lobbied to pass the ridiculously raised mandatory minimums which the governor pushed a few months ago.
What I'd like to see happen: Legalize drugs, tax them, funnel the money into education and sports, provide drug rehabilitation and prison education, and index the salaries of the politicians to the median income of the average islander, and enforce financial public disclosure to watch for corruption. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I agree with you 100%!
Also we should invest in alternate energy resources. Puerto Rico has the perfect climate to sustain its self. We need to stop the monopoly of the AAE. I see a brighter future for the island if this is successful. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
[Restaurante Raices](http://www.restauranteraices.com/) in Old San Juan comes very highly recommended from me. I went on my first trip and have made it a point to re-visit it frequently now that I live here.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I'll add that to our to-do's in San Juan, do you recommend a certain dish, drink, or appetizer?<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I'll add that to our to-do's in San Juan, do you recommend a certain dish, drink, or appetizer?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Any of their Mofongo dishes is to die for.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I agree with you 100%!
Also we should invest in alternate energy resources. Puerto Rico has the perfect climate to sustain its self. We need to stop the monopoly of the AAE. I see a brighter future for the island if this is successful. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Though I also completely agree, the removal of bail wasn't a blanket removal. It was specific to 5 very specific types of murders that are very specifically aimed at the drug trade community.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Though I also completely agree, the removal of bail wasn't a blanket removal. It was specific to 5 very specific types of murders that are very specifically aimed at the drug trade community.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
True, but to do that it first required the removal of the constitutional guarantee. In Puerto Rico this is a basic right of all despite the type of accusation. Once we start making exceptions to this right I believe it would become an easy argument for politicians to make every election year that they would be tougher on crime by increasing the exception against other types of crime. Though I'm a proponent of moderation in everything, and typically would rail against any kind of slippery slope argument. Once the constitutional guarantee of bail is removed, its expansion will be in the hands of politicians and judges, and it will be politicized with every election. I feel this absolute guarantee is worth the trouble. But I respect your opinion, as it took me a long time to make up my mind on this point.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Those are good things to know, very helpful! Thanks so much.
When it comes to reservations for the biobay is 30$ a person canoe ride the best price I will find? I've been delaying those reservations hoping for a cheaper option. I know there are some cheaper larger boats but I'd like to be as close to the water as possible. Also, big thanks for the La Perla warning, I like pretty colors...homicide not so much.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
As far as I know, yes, it could be.
No problem! Enjoy your stay, PR is a beautiful place :)<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
As far as I know, yes, it could be.
No problem! Enjoy your stay, PR is a beautiful place :)<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Thank you. I am incredibly excited. We booked a tour through Abe's. I was VERY impressed with how nice they were.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Alguien sabe que, exactamente, hace un consejero político que se merece un sueldo de sobre $150,000 al año?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Recolectar dinero para el partido que le dio trabajo.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Good suggestions. I had read the biobay off Vieques was the brightest so we were trying to get there. Do you know if there is much of a difference between Fajardo's and Vieques' bays?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Seriously, fuck fajardo. It's nasty. You can rent a car for $24 total and drive across the island. We did the same 10 day thing. I highly suggest San Juan for 2 days then one day travel to Rincon, two days there and go right to vieques. We stayed at killer place in viequqes for $74 a night including she picked us up from the ferry and breakfast. Vieques is killer and relaxing . Learn from our mistakes. Rent a car for the 3 days from San Juan to Rincon then fajardo. The ferry is $3 each person each way. Then you can rent another car when your done. The place we stayed We stayed in vieques had a rental car for $20 a day. Perfect because you only need one day to explore the island. It's all about relaxing. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Good suggestions. I had read the biobay off Vieques was the brightest so we were trying to get there. Do you know if there is much of a difference between Fajardo's and Vieques' bays?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Vieques is much better than fajardo. And safer<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
[Restaurante Raices](http://www.restauranteraices.com/) in Old San Juan comes very highly recommended from me. I went on my first trip and have made it a point to re-visit it frequently now that I live here.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Do not go to this restaurant. It's a tourist trap. And expensive. You can dine very cheaply most other places. Cafe Mallorca is great for breakfast. Trea Cuernos for cheap drinks at night.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I'll add that to our to-do's in San Juan, do you recommend a certain dish, drink, or appetizer?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Mofongo comes in many kinds. Drinks vary wherever you go. Don't be tempted to drink mojitos. Jerba buena ( mint) is hard to find in stores. In San Juan, go to the Bacardi factory an get a few free drinks and buy cheap rum, then tour the kiosk ( seriously) near the socks for two more free drinks. In Rincon, coco loco( drinks) at the rage, on the east coast pineapple. It's kinda weird. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Those are good things to know, very helpful! Thanks so much.
When it comes to reservations for the biobay is 30$ a person canoe ride the best price I will find? I've been delaying those reservations hoping for a cheaper option. I know there are some cheaper larger boats but I'd like to be as close to the water as possible. Also, big thanks for the La Perla warning, I like pretty colors...homicide not so much.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Juat as in anywhere else, beware sketchy people. When we were in PR the sketchiest people were gringos. The la perla area IS sketchball. But in San Juan, we were looking for a place to salsa dance. The directions went something like this..
Take this alley to the next one, go right. Go left down the next alley, go to the end where the lights out, it may look sketchy but don't worry about. Go right down the sidestreet and knock on the big scary door.
No joke.
And you know what? They were awesome people and we had a to. Of fun with em<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Hmm, can't really tell without knowing exactly where you saw these homes. Maybe a map could help? [this](https://maps.google.com/maps/place?ftid=0x8c0498f002a2925d:0x46f6efeaa95d61b&q=00773&hl=en&ved=0CA0Q-gswAA&sa=X&ei=of9EUIGnOobKtwetzYGoAg&sig2=3pFlIpRzjLl8QFke0ZMx6w) is the area we're talking about.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
After doing some research, im guessing people left because of hurricaine hugo. [Here is the exact area I was looking into.](http://maps.google.com/maps?q=18.377242,-65.715473&ll=18.377181,-65.714883&spn=0.005376,0.006877&num=1&t=m&z=17) How would I go about finding out who owns the home?<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
After doing some research, im guessing people left because of hurricaine hugo. [Here is the exact area I was looking into.](http://maps.google.com/maps?q=18.377242,-65.715473&ll=18.377181,-65.714883&spn=0.005376,0.006877&num=1&t=m&z=17) How would I go about finding out who owns the home?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I doubt that's the reason, Hugo was 23 years ago, you would have seen ruins instead of abandoned houses. Looking at the area, it could have been bought for some future tourism project (hotel, resort etc.) I'd try and contact the mayor's office, as they might have the property scriptures, which can tell you exactly who owns the land.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I personally recommend [San Juan Beach Hotel](http://www.sanjuanbeach.com/). It's around the same price range as the Atlantic Beach Hotel. Pretty good location, plus you've got fantastic Peruvian/Restaurant in the hotel. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Thank you! Do you know if its close to the Atlantic Beach Hotel? Same area?<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Thank you! Do you know if its close to the Atlantic Beach Hotel? Same area?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
It's the same area. [Here's](https://maps.google.ca/maps?saddr=San+Juan+Beach+Hotel+Hotel,+San+Juan,+Puerto+Rico&daddr=Atlantic+Beach+Hotel&hl=en&ll=18.457761,-66.074921&spn=0.005333,0.010568&sll=18.457242,-66.074224&sspn=0.005333,0.010568&geocode=FSyqGQEdhL0P_CEPE91nxZjWSyk7EYO7OW8DjDEPE91nxZjWSw%3BFcChGQEdcNAP_CGwzN7kqE_64yn3S6v5N28DjDGwzN7kqE_64w&oq=San+Juan+Beach+&t=h&gl=ca&dirflg=w&mra=ltm&z=17) a google map comparison. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Make sure you know about the crime situation in the area before you invest. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
What is the crime situation in that area? From visiting I felt like there is crime, but as long as you stay out of the way and just do your own thing, no one really bothers you. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
I personally recommend [San Juan Beach Hotel](http://www.sanjuanbeach.com/). It's around the same price range as the Atlantic Beach Hotel. Pretty good location, plus you've got fantastic Peruvian/Restaurant in the hotel. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
wow thanks. i'm not op but i'm leaving for san juan on sept. 8. my flight gets in somewhat late and i wanted a nice place near the airport. perfect.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Do not go to this restaurant. It's a tourist trap. And expensive. You can dine very cheaply most other places. Cafe Mallorca is great for breakfast. Trea Cuernos for cheap drinks at night.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Thanks, our budget is rather wee.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Thanks, our budget is rather wee.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
no worries! <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
An underscore.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
y se divertiraaaan<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
What is the crime situation in that area? From visiting I felt like there is crime, but as long as you stay out of the way and just do your own thing, no one really bothers you. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
nope. crime bleeds out into "safe" areas here in PR all the time... there really IS no insulation. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
this shit has been going on forever... it's going to turn an already awful traffic situation into a complete nightmare...
question: why the hell do we need ANOTHER ridiculously decadent shopping mall in between Plaza las Americas and Plaza Carolina... (and within 20 minutes of the 66 outlets?) <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Tourism <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Tourism <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
for jewgolds<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Tourism <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
really? I guess you're right; that must be at least part of the rationalization, but you know as well as i do (if you live here, at least) that the percentage of tourism/external revenue that passes through the malls is a pittance next to its local counterpart... i can't help but feeling like they're just flooding the market... <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
for jewgolds<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
OUTSIDE entrepreneurs.... i don't care if they're jewish, muslim, christian, or atheistic... it's not helping OUR revenue as much as promised...
plus, CRIME is most likely going to raise to even HIGHER levels in that area... (if that's even believable.. it's all hookers and drug points NOW)
jesus... it's time to leave PR<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Just what this island needs, another mall. Jesus!<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
...and I can't wait to spend my money there, just like everyone else even if the economy is in a shit-hole right now.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Vieques is much better than fajardo. And safer<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
And MUUUUCH more expensive. Dios mio<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Seriously, fuck fajardo. It's nasty. You can rent a car for $24 total and drive across the island. We did the same 10 day thing. I highly suggest San Juan for 2 days then one day travel to Rincon, two days there and go right to vieques. We stayed at killer place in viequqes for $74 a night including she picked us up from the ferry and breakfast. Vieques is killer and relaxing . Learn from our mistakes. Rent a car for the 3 days from San Juan to Rincon then fajardo. The ferry is $3 each person each way. Then you can rent another car when your done. The place we stayed We stayed in vieques had a rental car for $20 a day. Perfect because you only need one day to explore the island. It's all about relaxing. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Fajardo offered way lower prices on a lot of stuff, just used it as a port though. We actually ended up crashing in our car a number of nights there, saved us a bundle to spend on attractions. Vieques was wonderful but soooo far out of our budget. Thanks to a local hotel and biobay tour company in Vieques we didn't pay full price, but even discounted it was the most expensive spot on our trip. I'd love to visit Vieques again but with those prices it's looking post-retirement. <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
We are moving to PR shortly, we wanted to explore outlying islands in our spare time. I was wondering if they had puddle jumpers to Jamaica? And how much do you think?<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I didn't see any listed but I'd be surprised if none did. After that vacation I'M trying to figure out how to move to Puerto Rico. :) <|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Def check out airbnb but if you want the coolest hotel in the world stay here: http://www.thegalleryinn.com/ it's in old san juan and only about $100 a night. If you going to be doing the biobay that mean you'll be in fajardo. Take the ferry to culebra for a day or a couple days and visit flamenco beach. <|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
Dios mio, I want to live in Culebra. I swam with sea turtles and fell hard for that lil' place.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Any of their Mofongo dishes is to die for.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I saw this place our second day down there, it was a bit beyond our food budget and since I'd only seen San Juan prices I was worried we would run short so I didn't get to give it a try. After visiting I'm absolutely in love though, I've begun to research what I need to do to relocate there. Perhaps I'll budget celebratory dinner here for my return :)<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Juat as in anywhere else, beware sketchy people. When we were in PR the sketchiest people were gringos. The la perla area IS sketchball. But in San Juan, we were looking for a place to salsa dance. The directions went something like this..
Take this alley to the next one, go right. Go left down the next alley, go to the end where the lights out, it may look sketchy but don't worry about. Go right down the sidestreet and knock on the big scary door.
No joke.
And you know what? They were awesome people and we had a to. Of fun with em<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
I was surprised at how safe I felt, though the whole place feels kinda sketchy thanks to the rigorous window and door security. I never felt threatened, creeped out, or well-anything but welcome. It was amazing.<|im_end|>
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<|im_start|>user
Dios mio, I want to live in Culebra. I swam with sea turtles and fell hard for that lil' place.<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
We had culebra on the list, but she works for Starwood and we stayed at the "w" in vieques for $69 a night. We love the island and the people. I wasn't kidding about moving there. <|im_end|>
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